1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: Also media. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: What hasn't slept in days? My host of this podcast, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: It's Behind the Bastards, a podcast hosted by a man 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: who is just an absolute wreck of a human being. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: And as as we always do whenever I'm a wreck 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: of a human being, We're doing a book episode. Everybody, 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, we actually don't do these all that offen 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: anymore because for a long time, I couldn't find any 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: good books for us to do. It's harder than you 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: would expect, but the audience loves a books episode. It 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: lets us get by with a little bit less research 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: one week and we don't have to do a rerun, 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: so it keeps the new content flowing. And I know 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: all you you maniacs love that. But I finally found 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: a fresh you know, like in the movie Fury Road, 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: how a Morton Joe lives in that citadel where there's 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: all that water, you know, inside the big Rock. I 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: found the book equivalent of that, and to pour it, 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna splash it all over our guests today, Garrison, Davis, Garrison, 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: how are you doing. 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: I'm tired, but hanging in there. 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, this is the day after both the union 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: negotiated its contract and Donald Trump got convicted of thirty 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: four felonys. It was a crazy day tonight for a 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: lot of people. It was a crazy day in there. 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: I also got to take some of our co workers 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: to waffle House for the first time, so it was 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: really just a whole bunch of w's as they say. 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is actually now for the first time, Donald 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Trump can truly have the waffle house experience, which is 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: eating at a waffle house as a convicted All right, Garrison, 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: you're ready to warm this? Open the fuck up? 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: I always am. 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So what. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: This is behind the master? 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: This is the show that we're doing. 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a book episode, and I'm going to tell 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: you what book it's about. But but there's a lot 39 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: of setup that we need for this guys. So you know, Garrison, 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: being a victim of state repression is a terrible thing, 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: you know, having the force really you don't say, yeah, yeah, 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: very frightening, having the force of a nation's like legal 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: system and law enforcement arms brought down on your head 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: just for say, speaking your mind or you know, lifting 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: your voice in protest. 46 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: Or thirty four counts of financial fraught. 47 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: It's it sucks actually being oppressed. But pretending to be 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: a victim of censorship is great because you get all 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: of the victim the benefits of being a victim. You 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: get that sympathy, you get to feel like a hero. 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: You have to make like grand speeches about how you 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: won't be silenced, but you don't actually have to face 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: any consequences for any of your shitty behavior. Right and 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: in the in the long list of fake victims in 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: this country, I think probably the fakest and one of 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 2: my favorite is a guy named David Thomas Roberts. Now, 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: David wrote a book back in twenty twelve called Patriots 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: of Treason. And the plot of this book, this is 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: not the book we're covering this week, Okay, okay, but 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: you need to hear about it to get to that book. 61 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: The plot of this book is that an unhinged Barack 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Obama stand in president. Many such cases, Yeah, it's one 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: of those. It's like one of those right wing this 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: is what Obama's right about to do books because he 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: publishes it right before he gets reelected. 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I think I think we've seen 67 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: this film before. Got It, Got It. 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: It's almost the Ben Shapiro story. His his not Barack 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Obama stand in is Tyrell Johnson and is also a 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: black president. Don't like that, No, it's it's it's really 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: not great. Now. The plot of the book is that 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: an Iranian American student like, because Tyrell Johnson is unpopular, 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: he attacks Iran. That's actually that's actually suggested. It's like, 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: this is what the evil Democrat will do, is he's 75 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: not popular, and so he bombs Iran. And this Iranian 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: American student, who is both angry that his sister died 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: in the attack and also loves the founding fathers of 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: the United States and the Tea Party, carries out an 79 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: assassination attempt against Evil Obama, and because they find some 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: like Tea Party literature in his house, they use it 81 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: as an excuse to arrest conservatives in mass It's very funny. 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: Very very scary. 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: I love conservative alternate histories that are exactly the opposite 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: of what happened in real life. My favorite detail about 85 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: the book, which I got from a Texas Monthly review 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: of it, is that the fake president in the book, 87 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Tyrell Johnson, was originally just named Barack Obama, and they 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: did a find in replace and you can tell this 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: because each chapter starts with an epigraph, and one of 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: them is a real quote from Rick Perry about Barack Obama. 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: But in the Perry quote in the book, Obama's name 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: is replaced with President Johnson. 93 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: Oh oh, that's funny. 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny of Obama. 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: It's good stuff. It's good stuff. It's a perfect snapshot 97 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: of the kind of mania among conservatives that existed around 98 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: Obama in this period, This fear that like one of 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: like a pretty milk toast liberal president was going to 100 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: become a dictator and massacre everybody to the right of 101 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, fucking John McCain. Yeah, very very funny. Now, 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: the reality is that in two thousand and nine, a 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: homeland security analyst named Darryl Johnson wrote a report titled 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: right Wing Extremism about the danger of groups like the 105 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: Oathkeepers and other militias, and once the paper went out 106 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: got out, it went viral among people like Alex Jones 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: and also more mainstream right wing commentators who complained they 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: were being persecuted. Johnson was forced out of his job 109 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: and the report was retracted by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano 110 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: again the exact opposite of the right wing fiction. Actually 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: absolutely yeah, like a perfect opposite. So if the plot 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: of this book I've described sounds like the result of 113 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: chat GPT gobbling up like one hundred hours of Fox 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: News and spitting out a novel, that is what Roberts 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: has laid out as his creative process. He described how 116 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: he gets his ideas this way in an interview with 117 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: Blaze Media. I watch Fox News, get mad, can't sleep. 118 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: Then I turned the TV off and wrote my first book, 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: which is Therapy. So we're said it. 120 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: We're like in so many layers of like fiction. It's 121 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 4: like fiction based on fiction, based on. 122 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, no, the guys in the fucking Plato's cave 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: are writing stories about the shadows, the shadows. 124 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: The publisher that he uses for this is like a 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: vanity press, like one of those places where you pay 127 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: at least some of what it costs to get your 128 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: book published. And the fact that he had no trouble 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: getting published through this press or starting his own vanity press, 130 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: and the fact that he gets interviewed by like Texas 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: Monthly as well as the Blaze does not seem to 132 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: have done anything to convince this guy that he is not, 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: in fact oppressed. And he said to Texas Monthly, for 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: a long time, the left was the champion of free speech. 135 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: Look at the McCarthy era and the protesters in the 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: sixties and the Vietnam era. But today I think it's 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: mostly the conservative voices that are silenced now totally. The 138 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: specific act of persecution he claims to have endured is 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: that his vanity publisher AKA Publishing, didn't display his book 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: prominently at a twenty twelve event. And again, this is 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: a vanity, this is not a real publisher twenty twelve. 142 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: He's early. 143 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's really he's really uh honest on the 144 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 4: custom of things. 145 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's going to because of this horrible, the 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: horrible cruelty of not being as prominently featured as he 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: thinks he should have been at one of their events, 148 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: he founds his own publishing company, Defiance Press. And I 149 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: think these guys are going to be the host of 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: a lot of our future book episodes. 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: Garrison out there, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay clean, uh huh, yeah, 152 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: I want. I'm sure, I'm sure, if I look into 153 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: into Defiance Press, I'll get too excited, So I'll keep 154 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: myself in the dark so that it'll be more more 155 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: interesting when I get surprised. 156 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you might. We'll see how surprised you. There's 157 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: at least one surprising title in here. But it is 158 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: a vanity press. You have to pay some of the costs. 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: They call it hybrid publishing, which is again just not 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: a real publisher, you know, like it's it's it's a 161 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: vanity press. 162 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: If it's a one step above like Amazon, like yeah, 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: Kindle Publishing or. 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: Whatever, they just mad mend the title. 165 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Now they're top titles, like the book texts 166 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: it make the case for like that makes the case 167 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: for Texas secession, and it's sold about ten thousand copies, 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: which is like not bad for a real book, but 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's kind of the best any of 170 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: their things do. Most of their products are non fiction, 171 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: but there are books well. Texas Monthly describes it as 172 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: like books that stretch that definition, with titles like Corona Fascism, 173 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Trump in the Resurrection of America, uh and hunt It, 174 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: Kill It and Drag It Home, which is apparently a 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: self help book, So that that all sounds like a 176 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: lot of fun. 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Are they talking about like dating or like going like 178 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: hunting for food? 179 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: I think they're talking about how hunting for food is 180 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: like a metaphor for how you should handle everything in life. 181 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: Totally, that seems it seems healthy. 182 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, in relationships, just like in hunting, 183 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: sometimes you have to smother your body in deer urine 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: so that you smell like deer pits. 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: I have I have been hearing this, Actually I have 186 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: been here. Yeah, I am, I am. 187 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm currently soaking a pack of In's in a whole 188 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: bunch of the dear plus right now. 189 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. You'll like this. They have a 190 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: young adult book called Looks Like a Cheetah to me, 191 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: that's apparently an anti trans fairy tale. So of course 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that one's great. 193 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: As soon as you said that, like, okay, I can 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: see what they're is there, like how how can we 195 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 4: do attack helicopter but legally distinct? 196 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that article in Texas Monthly on Defiance Press 198 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: included so many different book summaries that I felt were 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: perfect possible subjects for Behind the Bastard's Book. Episodes, and 200 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: I want to read you a quote about one of 201 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: them that we're not covering this week, but we may 202 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: in the future, probably later in the year. From Texas Monthly, 203 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: Chadwick Bicknell's twenty twenty two novella and American Carol reimagines 204 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: Ebeneezer Scrooge as Alex Slid Dumas, a militant gay lefty 205 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: who has sworn off attending a Fourth of July party 206 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: with his relatives because many of them support a Trumpian president. 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: After visits from George Washington, the ghost of America's passed, 208 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe, the ghost of bizarrely America's present and death, 209 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: which apparently is what the new future the near future 210 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: holds for watch us if we don't watch out, l 211 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: Dumas realizes the right is more tolerant than the left, 212 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: recognizes the Trumpish commander in chief has actually made America 213 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: great again and is spiritually reborn as a docile, gay Republican. 214 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: That sounds amazing. 215 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have to get into that one. 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: That sounds that could be my top ten list of 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: this year. To be honest, that that is a steppenwolf 218 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 4: has been pretty good. 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Step Stepenwolf's a fine novel. But but uh, hesse could 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: never Alex ld Dumas's. 221 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: That's that's that's stunning. 222 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of hideous books these people 223 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: will put out, But the one we're going to actually 224 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: do in this episode or maybe episodes, we'll see how 225 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: it goes is a little title named Blue Dawn, and 226 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: the author, Blaine Lee Pardout, is best known for, according 227 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: to his wiki, his Battle Tech and mech Warrior novels. Now, 228 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: there's maybe some easy, cheap jokes I can make about it, 229 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: but from from my reading of his books, he's actually 230 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: kind of competent technically as a right, he's not Okay Shapiro, 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: he knows like I wouldn't call him a good I 232 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: don't think his book is good, but like he his 233 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: sentences are structured well, and his like chapters. He understands 234 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: like the flow that a book is supposed to have, 235 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to like a Ben Shapiro, who like does 236 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: does not understand how you are actually supposed to like 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: structure things happening in a chapter. You know, because he's 238 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: he's a he's a workmanlike writer, right, he's like a 239 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: guy who's got to put out genre fiction for a living. 240 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: He also seems to have had some kind of real 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: career as a military historian, so I was interested, you know. 242 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: In Blue Dawn, part of me was like, if this 243 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: is just going to be kind of like slightly right wing, 244 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: mediocre fiction, this might not work for us because there 245 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: won't be a much to make fun of. And I 246 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: was very wrong, because Garrison, this is a right winger 247 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: writing a novel about like what if all of our 248 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: anarchist dreams came true? Like he is. He is like 249 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: envisioning an alter it modern day, if like the Antifa 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: from Fox News was real. And it's fascinating to see 251 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: what he thinks was just about to happen in twenty twenty, 252 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: because there's a there's a lot of courage that you 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: have to have to write near future speculative science fiction rightly, 254 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: like if it's really close. And he publishes this in 255 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty one, and it opens with a 256 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: fictionalized version of a coup in twenty twenty, but it's 257 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: a completely different coup than the one that we got. 258 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Yeah, writing something that gets that is 259 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: like talking about like twenty twenty six is oddly like 260 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 4: harder than going to like twenty fifty two. 261 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: Yes, you have a lot more like runway, and he 262 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 2: doesn't give himself any runway. So this comes out months 263 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: after an actual coup attempted by his people, and he's 264 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: writing like. The whole book opens with like the Antifa 265 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: coup that takes the White House and the Capitol building. 266 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: God, that'd be so cool, fascinating. 267 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: I'm going to read first. I'm going to read you 268 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: a summary of the book that I got on the 269 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: Defiance Press website, and then we'll get into the actual 270 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: text itself. 271 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: Sounds good. 272 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Almost five years ago, America as everyone knew it came 273 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: to an abrupt end in a spectacular coudetta. It was 274 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: called the Liberation by those progressives and radicals that screamed 275 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: for its outcome, the fall by its victims whose freedoms 276 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: were trampled. The White House and Capital were overrun by anarchists, 277 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: and the leaders of the once proud nation were either 278 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: imprisoned or sent to social quarantine camps. The president was 279 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: arrested and eventually died in prison. Or so everyone was 280 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: led to believe, America was rebooted. In a new progressive, 281 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: socialist image. New America, the United States of old, was gone, 282 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: its history erased and rewritten, its icons destroyed. By the 283 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: time people tried to organize resistance, it was too late. 284 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: How is New America spelled one word or two words? 285 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: It's one word, just New America, and everyone calls it 286 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: that everyone called without being like that's the stupidest. It's 287 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: been five years, Like you're not kidding everyone, Like everyone 288 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: buys into this entirely new Orwellian language, which like works 289 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four because it's been generations since the 290 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: government got in place. They're talking like that and it's 291 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: literally been five years. 292 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: I don't think New America is going to catch on. 293 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be real, I don't. 294 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: I think that Gavin Newsom should use that as his 295 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 5: campaign slogan and ruin it for them. 296 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank. 297 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: You, give my da. 298 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 6: So he's like, oh yeah, he's like cool, he's like 299 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: putting more hair jehl in his hair. He's like, yeah, 300 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 6: news New America, that's. 301 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: The one they do. But Gavin newsoen allied with the 302 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: fucking anarchists is exactly like the level of politics that 303 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: this book is capable of. 304 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am, I am, I am ready to hear. 305 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: Like, okay, what is his version of like the utopian 306 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: dystopia is absolutely. 307 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, Garrison will take that little journey together into New America. 308 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: But first, first take a journey into the products and 309 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: services that support this podcast. 310 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: And it's not Gavin Newsom's hair sheel. 311 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: We don't know that, we don't know what brand he uses. 312 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: Ah wow, Sophie, I'm back and I am just feeling. 313 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: I put I put a solid pound and a half 314 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: of that Gavin Newsom hair jel, which, by the way, folks, 315 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: my hair now it's just horse seamen, you know. But 316 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: it works incredibly Sorry, Sophie, already committed to making that 317 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: bit started talking. 318 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: It's okay, I laid it up for you. 319 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: You got it, You got it. 320 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: You gotta move past that l a hairjail, Sophie, Yeah, 321 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: you gotta. 322 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: They get it all from that cowboy ranch in the 323 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: middle of the city. So it starts with a character 324 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: Jack Desmond, a secret service assistant shave. Yeah, it's pretty again. 325 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: He's like a workmanlike genre rider, perfectly fine protag in 326 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: his name. He's a secret serviceman. He's at the White 327 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: House as it's under siege. And this entire White House 328 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: siege garrison is based on some clips this guy watched 329 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: of Portland from Andy No's social media feed. It's very clear, 330 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: but it starts with him talking about like how the 331 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: nation has been collapsing since the twenty twenty election, and 332 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: this is clearly Trump is the president and the election 333 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: has just happened. Anarchists Cell sewed further division. Their desire 334 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: was that the entire political system be violently taken down. 335 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: Many politicians looked the other way and even funded their efforts, 336 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: hoping it will damage their political opponents in the upcoming elections. 337 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: Little did they realize at the time that they were 338 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: empowering people that were willing to take them down as 339 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: well as their opposition classic democratic politicians funding the anarchists. 340 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: I'm interested to see how much this is going to 341 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: differ from Alex Garland's understanding of American politics. 342 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am kind of curious about that as well, 343 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: although I think this one in My understanding in that 344 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: is that like the bad guy president who bombs America 345 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: is the Trumpian stand in, and in this Trump is 346 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: like almost like a helpless child before yeah. 347 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the climax is still like the West Coast 348 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: forces are invading the White House, so like there you go. 349 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, in this it's it's I think there's soldiers in 350 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: that at least in this it's just it's literally just 351 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: an anarchist that has fireworks, and of course we'll get 352 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: to it. So here's here's another paragraph from that that 353 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: intro the presidential election became a quagmire of fraud, both 354 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: perceived and real. The lawsuits drew bitterness and only added 355 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: to the insecurity of daily life. The drawn out legal 356 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: process led the protests, which morphed into rioting across the country. 357 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: Brute force was applied to restore law and order, but 358 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: it only generated more resistance and hate. Law and order 359 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: began to dissolve, indecision as to who had really won 360 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: the election. Toll at the American people, months at being 361 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: suppressed by restrictions tied to the virus, made their anger 362 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: transition into undirected violence. And I find it interesting because 363 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: that's like the opposite of where people were by that point, 364 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: Like all that happened. You had an election that was 365 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: deeply controversial, I mean not for good reason, but it was. 366 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: But like there wasn't widespread rioting, and people were mostly 367 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: just exhausted by everything that had happened in twenty twenty 368 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: by the time November rolled around, and we're glad for 369 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: it to be over, very exhausted, very tired also, and 370 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: then Biden dies as soon as like in early winter, 371 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: the self proclaimed president elect, who where lad to believe 372 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: is Biden has a cerebral aneurysm and dies, and then 373 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: the vice not a bad prediction, not a bad prediction. 374 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: And then Kamala Harris gets assassinated by a right wing extremist. 375 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: And so that's how we get a a constitutional crisis, 376 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: and China and Russia leap into the breach to take 377 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: advantage of all this chaos, and they send money to 378 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: the anarchists, which is what makes the revolution possible. I 379 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: don't know how they get it. Are they like are 380 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: they venmoing it to different food not bombs groups? And 381 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: like bail funds? How are they sending all of these 382 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: weapons over what does this actually look like? 383 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 4: That's really funny, that's really funny. Choice Russia is funneling 384 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: some money to people quote unquote on the left, but 385 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: it's certainly not anarchists. 386 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: No, and it's certainly not like they're they're they're like 387 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: they get mortars. They're attacking the White House with actual 388 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: with actual mortars at some point. But parts of this 389 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: do read like Portland fan fiction. And I'm gonna I'm 390 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: gonna go back to the book now. Secret Service Assistant 391 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: Chief Jack Desmond sit in the hot seat of the 392 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: Services Emergency Response Center, two stories under the White House 393 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: and glared at the screens. The protesters had been getting 394 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: bolder in the last few weeks, a few clamoring over 395 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: the fence in Lafayette Park and then attempting to scale 396 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: the perimeter fence around the White House. Each night. The 397 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: numbers grew each night new tactics were employed. The majority 398 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: of the perpetrators had been apprehended, but there was method 399 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: behind their madness. The increased use of fireworks was part 400 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: of a strategy. Desmond saw a pattern which was a 401 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: part of his job to go beyond the raw data. 402 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: They're testing our response, watching how we react. It spoke 403 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: to him of a level of sophistication. The FBI and 404 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: the DOG were not assigning to the leaders of the protests. 405 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: When the two groups hit the perimeter fence at different times. 406 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 2: He finally convinced his superiors they were planning something bigger, 407 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: something far worse. They're coordinated, organized, and upping their game. 408 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 4: It's funny because it is definitely like just Portland panfic, 409 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: but also yeah, wildly underestimating the FBI and the DHS's yeah, 410 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: presumption of like a complexity. 411 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they. 412 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: Have some very interesting theories on how these types of 413 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: protests operate. 414 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, the reality is that they were like 415 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: obsessed with attempting to find a leadership CADRA behind the 416 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty George Wood protest that. 417 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 7: Like never exists, yeah, which is like yeah, and uh, 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 7: you know, on the same token, like when there was 419 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 7: actually a siege at the Capitol Building, they weren't ready 420 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 7: at all because they had not in any way prepared 421 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 7: for the one that actually came their way. 422 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: This guy's kind of Fox News brain worms. You can 423 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: you can tell he just kind of mainlined a raw 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: diet of andy No during the twenty twenty election. Here's 425 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: here's his description of the White House surveillance system. There 426 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: were cameras everywhere around the White House on microdrones, some 427 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: planted on the fence. Some camouflage is nothing more than 428 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: bolt satellite surveillance. Not to mention the agents that mingled 429 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: with the protesters decked out in all caps Antifa black. 430 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: Every single time he uses the word Antifa, it's in 431 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: all caps, as if Antifa special black. They licensed Bantom 432 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: black from that. 433 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: One guy that would be so cool is really shadow people, 434 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: and it's he talks about how like some of them 435 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: have takeout took out cameras with paintball. 436 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: Guns, which is a real thing that people do. Others 437 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: have strobes to overload the night vision gear, and others 438 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: used signs, large banners, and makeshift shields to conceal their 439 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: nefarious activities. 440 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah this is just Portland. 441 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well what are you concealing with a shield? Guys, 442 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: they're concealing that they're trying not to get shot with 443 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: rubber bullets. One of the things I find fascinating and 444 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: kind of enlightening about this is that every time he 445 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: talks about the crowd, he talks about it as if 446 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: it's like a hive intelligence, Like not like it's a 447 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: group of actual people, but like it's it's some sort 448 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 2: of like alien species, where like the entire organization of 449 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: people has a collective mind. So yeah, here's. 450 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Isn't like wrong. 451 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes it isn't wrong about how fear works. It's it's 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: he he is crediting them with like again, you and 453 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: I have been to these kinds of things and seen 454 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: how hard it is to get a group of thousands 455 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: of people to take down one line of fence. Right. 456 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: Absolutely, in very brief moments, you'll see a group of 457 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: like fifty people move as like a fluid cluster and 458 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: do something really cool and then it breaks out and 459 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: to get into like entropy. 460 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: But if they do, they're wearing charcoal black, not into you. 461 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably probably didn't have the right color of 462 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: black in Portland. 463 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeerson, honestly that that may be it. 464 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 5: Just like a charcoal or like a faded or you know, definitely. 465 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: Not would be nice. Actually I agree, Yeah, it's great. 466 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: It's a great color. It's a great color. 467 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: So here's another great line. The rules of engagement for 468 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: a massed assault were known, and he knew people would 469 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: hesitate thoughts of mowing down American protesters on the front 470 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: lawn of the White House was the kind of thing 471 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 2: that got you hauled up to Capitol Hill He had 472 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: reviewed the rules carefully with the teams at the start 473 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: of his shift. As he watched the screens, he saw 474 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: that the crowd was monitoring his people on the rooftops 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: and their assorted purchase. The problem was that the crowd 476 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: was willing to risk it, fueled by hate and organized 477 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: by All Caps, Antifa and other radical groups. They had 478 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: gotten more sophisticated. 479 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: The Antifa All Caps for me baby, Yeah, and. 480 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: Then we get our actual Portland reference Garrison. The arrest 481 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: of several cells in Portland and New York had resulted 482 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: in bombings and two assassination attempts on department heads, leaving 483 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: one director in the hospital. This was beyond protests. This 484 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: was now war, though the press played the entire thing 485 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: down as minor incidents of violence and otherwise peaceful protests. Sure, yeah, 486 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: I again, it's this like, they did arrest a lot 487 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: of people that they claimed were like leaders in Portland 488 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: and elsewhere. And you know what didn't happen is any 489 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: directors of federal agencies got murdered. 490 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: No, unless I missed that in the news cycle. 491 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they would have hit on that 492 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: pretty hard. Yeah, I did want to at anytime one 493 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: of these guys gives me something to drill in on, 494 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: particularly in the press playing down incidents of violence at 495 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 2: peaceful protests and stuff. I want to dig into that 496 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: as much as I can, And there's a couple of 497 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: good articles on that by some scholars who have actually 498 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: analyzed the way in which the media tends to cover 499 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: social justice protests and what things they tend to highlight 500 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: in their coverage. One of the first papers I found 501 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: was by Danielle Brown and Summer Harlowe in the Journal 502 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: of Press and Politics titled Protests, Media Coverage and a 503 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: Hierarchy of Social struggle. This is what they write. Scholars 504 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: across disciplines of scrutinized press coverage of collective action, exploring 505 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: the institutional, organizational, and individual influences that shift the quality 506 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: and quantity of coverage. Many different structural, organizational, and institutional 507 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: features of media production and social disruption affect media coverage 508 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: of social movements. However, most scholars have shown that the 509 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: institutional logics of the mainstream media do not favor social movements, 510 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: and only the most appealing or newsworthy features of a 511 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: movement are likely to result in news coverage, and when 512 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: we talk about, like what are the most newsworthy features 513 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: of a movement that's like incidents of violence or anything 514 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: that can be characterized police on fire, Yeah exactly, Like yeah, yeah, 515 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: that's the like if that happens, that's the only thing 516 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 2: that's winding up in a lot of coverage on a protest. 517 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: If a dumpster's on fire on day one, it might 518 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: get something. If dumpter's on fire on day twenty five, 519 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: no one cares. 520 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's become the norm. And Harlowe also wrote 521 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: an article for The Washington Post in twenty twenty one 522 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: where she summarized the data she's collected during years of 523 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: research into how the media covers protests. Quote my own 524 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: research analyzed about fifteen hundred protest related news stories published 525 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: throughout twenty fourteen in mainstream, alternative, partisan, and online news publications. 526 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: Articles about conservative protests, like protests supposed to immigration or 527 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: LGBT rights, or protest supporting Trump and gun rights, are 528 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: less likely to be negatively framed as riots than other 529 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: types of protests. In contrast, Black Lives Matter protests are 530 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: more likely to be framed as riots. New use coverage 531 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: focus is more on violence, property damage, and confrontations with police. 532 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: For example, at twenty seventeen San Antonio Express News article 533 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: about an anti white supremacy protest, which was included in 534 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: another study I did, started with a reference to brawls 535 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: that broke out and the arrest of protesters who swarmed 536 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: the sidewalk hurling insults and chanting. The aim of the 537 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: protest was placed in quotation marks white supremacy, which arguably 538 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: delegitimizes protesters' grievances, and yeah, yeah, pretty normal stuff. She 539 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: surveyed one hundred journalists from Missouri, Virginia, Arizona, and Texas 540 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen and combined those surveys 541 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: with an analysis of nine hundred and thirty two protest 542 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: related stories from newspapers in those states, and found that 543 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: most journalists said that they were neither supportive nor unsupportive 544 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: of protesters generally, and were less supportive of racial justice 545 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: movements than they were of women's rights or immigrants rights, 546 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: which I found interesting. 547 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: That is interesting. 548 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, again, it's the appic of what 549 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: this guy reports, because reality is the opposite of what 550 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: actually happened. But let's return to the fantasy. Of China 551 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: funded Antifa. 552 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: It's a lot more fun. 553 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: So this next line here gives us both collapsible ladders 554 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: as a sinister weapon and gives us our first anti 555 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: mask line. Sir the captain seated in front of him 556 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: spoke up, pointing to the far left monitor. Look, I 557 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: think those are collapsible ladders. Jack saw them too in 558 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: the crowd. They were hard to make out, even with 559 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: night vision that use them before to toss up makeshift barricades. 560 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: But tonight, tonight felt different. Leaning in, he toggled the 561 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: microphone on and tore off the black mask he'd been 562 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: forced to wear since the pandemic began. He couldn't afford 563 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: to have his voice muffled. Not now, this is Rabbit 564 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: to all stations. Southeast corner ladder spotted prepare for breaching attempts. 565 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: I like that. The ladder is hard to spot too. 566 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: It's very good. 567 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: What kind of ladders are they carrying that you can't 568 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: very easily? 569 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: An extendible ladder is like it's like three times. 570 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: Hind of a man. Yeah, yeah, I love this. How 571 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: sinister the ladders are. Yeah, it's it's all beautiful. 572 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: That maskline, he is really proud of that one. 573 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: It's so good. So the protesters, working with military precision, 574 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: penetrate like he gets a call that while they're sieging 575 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: the White House, rioters have already penetrated the Capitol and 576 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: taken the Speaker of the House hostage. So he has 577 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: to order he has to order a condition red because 578 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: protesters are headed for them. Next, the crowd surges forward 579 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: and the cops start shooting. He could not hear the 580 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: gunfire in the erc but he heard it over the speakers. 581 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Rubber bullets at first sprayed a swath of the rioters, 582 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: but they did not recoil like they had before. Though 583 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: a dozen or more dropped from the kinetic impacts, most 584 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: got right back up and continued the climb. Body armor 585 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: Fucking Amazon and eBay. They would run out of rubber 586 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: bullets soon. Then things would get ugly and bloody. You 587 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: can get body armor on eBay. I wouldn't recommend it, 588 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: but they don't sell it on Amazon anyway. Whatever. 589 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: Maybe they mean like motorcross gear. 590 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, like airsoft. I mean airsoft armor is 591 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: fine for rubber bullets. Yeah, I don't think they mean 592 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: like ballistic armor. I think I think I just like padding. Yeah, 593 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: that does make if these guys are all dressed as 594 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: air softers, though, it does make them seem a little 595 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: bit less threatening. Now it's unclear to me because he 596 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: makes a big deal about how they're using fireworks. At 597 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 2: the start, he starts, there's a line here where like 598 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: they start heals mortars because they start exploding. 599 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: This this is an andy No thing. Andy No calls 600 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: all fireworks mortars like this, Like when they say mortars, 601 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: they don't mean like actual military motors. What they mean 602 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: Fourth of July fireworks. 603 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: In this it's in this garrison. It's both because he 604 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: starts by talking about fireworks and meaning mortars, and then 605 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: he says mortars. And it becomes clear over the course 606 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: of the fight that they are actually shooting real mortars 607 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: at the White House. Presumably the Chinese gave it to them, 608 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: but these are these are Now we are both getting 609 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: like fear mongered of like they're using fireworks to test 610 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: the defenses and now they have real mortars. Okay, so 611 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: that's that's where this goes. We now cut to a 612 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: new character, Charlie spelled just with an I Kazinski, who 613 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: is a lady Secret Service person who works on the 614 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: President's detail, and she busts in the Oval Office. This 615 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: is we presume President Trump. And she's like, you know, 616 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: we got a real problem here. The Antifas are about 617 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: to take the White House. Part of why this is 618 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: very funny to me is that the first thing President 619 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Trump says is like, I can't leave. What about my family, 620 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: my wife and son? And real President Trump absolutely would 621 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: not be concerned with that in the situation. 622 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 7: Absolutely, it would leave them to die. 623 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: Several shots at the proof glass of the Oval office, 624 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: snap cracking on the armored glass. The President rose as 625 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: another explosion went off outside, throwing tiny bits of grass 626 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: and dirt on the window. He moved to her side 627 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: as two additional agents rushed in flanking him. My family, 628 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: my wife and son. So she promises to get his kids, 629 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: and yeah, there's a Charlie takes him down an elevator. 630 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: We're informed that the elevators in the White House can 631 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: be electrified after use, so they'll kill anyone trying to 632 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: access them. And there's also a gas system to pump 633 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: knockout drugs into the shaft if it were breached. I 634 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: looked into this. I couldn't find any evidence one way 635 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: or the other. Maybe maybe that's true, I hope. So 636 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: so he calls our boy Jack calls the Secretary of 637 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Defense and tells him to scramble the troops, and the 638 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: troops are under attack too. The military base, Joint Base 639 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: Bowling was just hit by two car bombs and is 640 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: being shelled, and so is Andrew's Air Force Base. So 641 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: the antifas have carried out on the same night overwhelming 642 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: attacks against two military bases, the Capitol and the White House. 643 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: And again, in the most impressive actions you and I saw, 644 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: they were able to tear down a fence after like 645 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: five hours. 646 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: After like two weeks. Yeah, practice, this is. This is 647 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 4: an unprecedented level of coordination. 648 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, this this is I'm really wondering what the signal 649 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: loops are like for these anti Those. 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: Signal chats gotta be going crazy. 651 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 2: Hey guys, we're bombing Joint Air Force Base Santruce. We're 652 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: in the Pentagon, we are on the teams gone, We've 653 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: got the speaker. Oh yeah, it's really funny. So there's 654 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: a moment here where the Secret Service head or sorry, 655 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: where the President tells the Secretary of Defense to send 656 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: the army in to crack down on the protests, and 657 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: the Secretary of Defense won't do He's not willing to 658 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: send American troops in to like fight Americans on American soil. 659 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: And this is again like a thing that happened right 660 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 2: now in real life. What happened is President Trump asked 661 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: General Millie, his secretary of Defense, can you just shoot 662 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: them in the legs? 663 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? 664 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: And Milly was like, no, I can't have the army 665 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: just go shoot protesters in the lakes. Anyway, I find 666 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: that very funny. But you know, Garrison, what's not funny 667 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: and what won't shoot you in the. 668 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 3: Legs are lovely advertisers. 669 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: They might shoot you in the legs. If it's the 670 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: Washington State Highway Patrol again, they'll definitely shoot you in 671 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: the legs. Well yeah, yeah, all right, so we'll come back. 672 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: But first, here's some ads, all right, Garrison. So that's 673 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: our cold open, right. The White House is sieged and taken. 674 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: The president is it's kind of unclear what happens to him, 675 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: Like we know from the summary that he's supposed to 676 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: have died in this, but yeah. 677 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: Because he was like taking captured and died in prison. 678 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: We don't see him die in this right we some 679 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, as a spoiler, he's not actually dead, garrissons. 680 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is alive and living in secret five years 681 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: so he's going to lead some like resistance for us hopefully. 682 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 683 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh, Garrison, you've you've predicted exactly where this book is going. 684 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, of course. 685 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: So chapter one, it opens with a character named Andy Forrest, 686 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: and Andy is in a cancer ward at a hospital 687 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 2: watching his dad die. It's it's National Hospital one fourteen 688 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 2: because all of the hospitals were in a sinister manner nationalized. 689 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 3: They're communist hospitals now. 690 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: They're communist hospitals now. Yeah, and his father is classified 691 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: as non essential, non contributing, so there's debate about whether 692 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: or not his recovery is even worth it, and he's 693 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: he's angry that he had to fight to get the 694 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: treatment he got and it's still not working and just 695 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: like that's just yeah, just like in Canada. I don't know, 696 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: like his experience sounds a lot like the hospital experience 697 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: I just had with my dad that exists in our 698 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: current system. But yeah, he's unhappy about it. And part 699 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: of why he's unhappy is that his sister's here, and 700 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: his sister is a sinister member of the new Antifa 701 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: law enforcement agency, the social enforcement Agency. Oh, Harrison, the 702 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: Garrison they shared do and they are literally they're literally 703 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: Antifa mobs that follow people around and harass them if 704 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: they're bad. 705 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: That's funny. 706 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: So I'm going to read me. So this is this 707 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: is the description of his sister. Oh for first, Actually, 708 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: there's a line I need to read here about the hospitals. 709 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: Andy wished he could afford private healthcare, but at the 710 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: same time was glad he couldn't. If I made that 711 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 2: kind of money, it just would have put a target 712 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: on my back. In Numerica, making money was a curse? 713 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: Is it? 714 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 2: Because that's not Actually that doesn't actually make sense. Can 715 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: you buy better healthcare with your money? 716 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 4: Or no? 717 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: Is it a curse? Or is it a curse? 718 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 3: I forgot about nu America for exec. 719 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: That he will not let you forget, Garrison. You're about 720 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: to get so many different fucking acronyms and shit shoved 721 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: in your face. 722 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: Oh I'm so I'm so thrilled for acronyms. I love 723 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 4: me some fake three letter agencies. 724 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: Are you all ready for this? Banana anyway, Okay, here's 725 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: here's a description of his sister. The woman wore her 726 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: black shirt with red piping on her collar showing her 727 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: rank and social enforcement. Where the National Security Force NSF 728 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: was a potent arm of the fedgov, social Enforcement was 729 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: a less controlled and thus more dangerous born out of 730 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: the all caps Antifa and BLM mobs during the liberation. 731 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: The act is informal police dispensing social justice as they 732 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: saw fit. 733 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's that's really something special. 734 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: It's't that beautiful. 735 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 4: That's that's that's amazing. That's really that's really nice. I 736 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 4: like the caller piping. 737 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: Classy, classy nice. 738 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 2: It's good to know that we we still have style. 739 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: When the Antifa mobs are made part of the government. 740 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: N SF has like a good a good ring to it. 741 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's not ye. Dispensing social justice is. 742 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: Just deeply, deeply funny. 743 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: It's it's extremely funny. Her name is Karen, and the 744 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: first thing he notices about her is that she's put 745 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 2: on weight since the last time he saw her. Because, 746 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: of course, cool insult my eye. Yeah, so they have 747 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: a fight, he says. It's because she and her social 748 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 2: justice goons got their dad fired from his job quote 749 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 2: because of the sees. He lost his house, our mom, 750 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: almost everything he had, and his reputation because of the. 751 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 3: Investigation canceled culture police. 752 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: That's literally what they are. They took his mom from him. 753 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, it's so funny. So she's like, no, he 754 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 2: was a bad our dad did a bad thing. He 755 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: supported a domestic terrorist group, and he didn't change his 756 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 2: class curriculum to the standard. The man was a professor 757 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: at Sir Journer Truth you and refused to adhere to 758 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: the rules. So Andy gets angry first because Sojourner Truth 759 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: University is supposed to be Mary Washington University, but all 760 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: of the schools with Washington and the name got purged 761 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: during the Great Reformation. 762 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 3: Nice and again it's like, actually. 763 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sojourner Truth deserves the university more than 764 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: Mary Washington. 765 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 3: I agree, yeah, but whatever, I don't know. 766 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: That anybody cares that much. Here's him describing what happened 767 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: to his dad. His father had been a respected historian, 768 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: but the NSF had ruined him. Surely Sojourner Truth would 769 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: have been opposed to that. They had sent social enforcement 770 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: teams to follow him everywhere harassing him to the point 771 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: where he couldn't get to his classroom. They broke windows 772 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: at the house, set fire to his car, and relentlessly 773 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: followed him, screaming and shoving to the point where businesses 774 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't allow him in. Everything he typed was monitored, screened, 775 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: and often edited. Big Tech monitored every keystroke he made, 776 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 2: or so he claimed. 777 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 4: This, this is this is the retribute of justice blueprint. 778 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: This is what we need to get big tech Antifa 779 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 3: mobs hand in hand. 780 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, big tech working yet like perfectly with the random 781 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: mops of people breaking windows. 782 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,479 Speaker 4: Sitting in keystroke lubs, gangs. 783 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg just can't wait to partner with an antifa mob. 784 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 3: He would love this. He would love this definitely. 785 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 2: This has been his dream since the beginning. Andy's sister 786 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: was part of the Social Enforcers or SE, a part 787 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: of what the FEDGOV called the Great Reformation. Again, he's 788 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: already introduced all these concepts before, and now we're getting 789 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: the info dump on them, which is just is a 790 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: little sloppy. That's what we editor what I called this. 791 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's what we call solid writing. That's called 792 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 3: the world building. 793 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: Robert the Overview Throw of the government was called the 794 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: liberation by almost everyone out loud. In whispers, however, it 795 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: was called the fall. Karen had consumed the kool aid 796 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: of the riots. Yes, so yeah. He'd gotten fired by 797 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: the school, who didn't even care that he'd done nothing wrong, 798 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: And then came the NSF interrogators. Separate from the se 799 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 2: They were just as bad, if not worse, because they 800 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: had a fragment of legitimacy the social enforcers lacked. The 801 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: NSF claimed he knew radicals and that he had incriminating 802 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: materials in his possession, materials that were never produced, only alleged. 803 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: They allowed him to be hauled before two people's tribunals 804 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: the kangaroo courts of the SEES, with no evidence, and 805 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: he lost two years of his life, exiled to a 806 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 2: social quarantine camp, denied his freedoms. He had come back 807 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: from social quarantine a hollow shell of a human being. 808 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: In the end, Karen had done nothing for her father 809 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 2: other than attempt to persuade him to provide the names 810 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: of his associates. She'd been in social enforcement and could 811 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: have vouched for him, perhaps called off their dogs. Instead, 812 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: she let their father die emotionally now the cancer was 813 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: doing the rest, and Andy reveals that they were the 814 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: terrorist group he was a charge of being a member of. 815 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: Was the Republican Party? 816 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's funny. 817 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: And Karen's like, no, he actually had ties to another 818 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: group called the Sons of Liberty and natural terrorist group 819 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: and he's like, well when it was it become I 820 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: legal to support a cause? Well, Andy, you've just been inconsistent. 821 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: There was your dad just a member of the Republican 822 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: Party or was he a member of this terrorist group? 823 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's fine anyway. Karen and Andy continue 824 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 2: to argue. He calls them a bunch of thugs who 825 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: go out to administer you know, uh self described justice 826 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: to innocent people, and Karen says, we don't go after 827 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: innocent people. Innocent people have nothing to fear. YadA, YadA, YadA. 828 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: It's uh, it's it's it's it's it's mostly the rest 829 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: of them. There. Argument is there's some good world building 830 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: when we get to the end of this chapter. 831 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,919 Speaker 4: Here this is just like a boomer writing his own 832 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 4: scary enemy and then getting scared of himself. 833 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Where Karen saw him as flawed. 834 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: Andy saw him as a man who honored his friends. 835 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 2: The mention of their mother hid hard. When their father 836 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 2: had lost his job and was tormented NonStop by the 837 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 2: social enforcers, she had left him. His mother lived under 838 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 2: a cloud of fear that she would be attacked while 839 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: stepping out to get groceries. That was part and parcel 840 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: with the tactics of the social enforcement teams. Harassment was 841 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 2: a weapon in their hands. She moved in with a friend, 842 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: but was unable to get work. Her name was on 843 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: a list because of their father. She took her life 844 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: six months later, never even speaking to Andy's father. He 845 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 2: had not been released for her funeral. Karen laid the 846 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: blame at their father's feet. So that's their totally realistic 847 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: situation here. Yeah, I found it powerful. 848 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 3: Very very scary. 849 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, very scary. So that's our opening. And then we 850 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: get to the district. So we're introduced to a new 851 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: CA character, Kaylee Leetram, who I think from reading this 852 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: was former CIA and is now a part of the 853 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: FEDGOV actual law enforcement agency, so not the anarchist mobs, 854 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: but like basically the FBI and the CIA and all 855 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: the other law enforcement groups got amalgamated into a different 856 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: organization that didn't have the name police in it, because 857 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 2: that's that's scary. 858 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 3: Now, it's really just the word that we have a 859 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: problem with. Nothing, Yeah, that they do systemically, I'll be 860 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 3: to be fair, there's definitely like a third of of 861 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, the people on the left that I've met, 862 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 3: that just want to make the police their own police. No, 863 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: that is that is true. 864 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 2: But you know. 865 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 4: Another third who just wants the scenario as written here, 866 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 4: and the other third who yeah, to think of something 867 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 4: a little bit better than both of this. 868 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, But in the reality is that all three of 869 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 2: those groups together are about two hundred people, like not 870 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: not quite enough to overthrow the White House capital and 871 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: two hundred though, yeah, every one of them on Twitter. 872 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 2: So there's some great descriptions here. When the boss of 873 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: the National Support Force, which is this law enforcement agency 874 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: comes in, and you really you get a lot about 875 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: the author from how he describes her, because I think 876 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: this is supposed to be AOC. The secretary of the 877 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: National Support Force came into the room, a perky woman, 878 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 2: probably the same age as Kaylee, in her mid to 879 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: late thirties. The secretary had a quasi hispanic look. 880 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 3: To she es no, no. 881 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 2: Hispanic. 882 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 3: See, how do you write that? And editor would have 883 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 3: caught that? Editor when I caught that? 884 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: What is what is quasi hispanic? Anyway, he's very Again. 885 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: It's like whenever Ben Shapiro talks about AOC, you can 886 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: just like you can feel the thirsty. Yeah. The secretary 887 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 2: had spanic look to her, dark skin, pristine, long straight hair, 888 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: and almost perfect makeup. She wore a single gold pip 889 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 2: on the coldar of her jacket that signaled her rank. 890 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: Other than that, she wore a small black flag pin 891 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: adorned with the white outlined fist and arrow lightning bolts 892 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: stabbing downward. The old flag had long been banned, deemed 893 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 2: far too racist and prejudice to ever be shown in public. 894 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 4: Nice nice base BASEA wow. 895 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 3: I like that. Also, they have like Star Trek uniforms 896 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 3: with like pimps on them. 897 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. 898 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: No, that's good moves. It seems like the new government's 899 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: making some solid choices. 900 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 5: I like that they like add in details that they're like, 901 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 5: by the way, she's hot, hair, luscious. 902 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: Makeup, almost perfect, almost perfect. She fucked up one bit 903 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 2: of it. 904 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: They're like one eyelash out of place xoxo. 905 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, weird. Yeah, So you know, she gets into some 906 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: sort of bullshit argument with the secretary lady, who is like, 907 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: have you been briefed as to why you were brought here? 908 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 2: And Kaylee, we can tell is like the bad girl 909 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: who doesn't who you know, doesn't play by the rules 910 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: but gets results. So the secretary asks, have you been 911 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: briefed as to why you were brought here? And Kaylee responds, no, 912 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 2: I presume it's because somebody fucked something up and you 913 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: need me to unfuck it. Watch your language, Kaylee. Her 914 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 2: direct supervisor, Burke Dorn said from his seat next to her. 915 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 2: Doran was the oldest man in the room and had 916 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 2: been FBI back in the day when they formed the 917 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: National Support Force. The FBI, DHS, state and local law 918 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 2: enforcement had all been combined. The word police had been 919 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: dropped because it had been deemed defensive and potentially racist. 920 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 2: And I do love that all of these old FBI 921 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: guys and shit are still cops. They just had to 922 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: call themselves something different. 923 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 4: No, it shows it is a weird like fundamental misunderstanding 924 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 4: of like everything. 925 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's very funny that, like, yeah, it is 926 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: basically the same guys. It's just AOC is in charge 927 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: of the CIA. Now finally the leftist evolution has accomplished 928 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 2: its goal. So they're they're all concerned because the Sons 929 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 2: of Liberty are back. There's some they had thought that 930 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 2: they killed all these guys. Kay Lee was like, I 931 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 2: buried the bodies myself. We took them out. Uh, but 932 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 2: they're buried the bodies. No, no, no, kay Lee, whose 933 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: who's our our I think our self insert girl character author. 934 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,760 Speaker 2: So we thought, but there have been some recent acts bombing, 935 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 2: cyber swipes and an assassination or two. We had our 936 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 2: friends in Silicon Valley crunch it and they say, there's 937 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 2: a pattern. You think the Sons of Liberty are or 938 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 2: the s o L are back. The use of the 939 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 2: acronym was important. The use of a full name gave 940 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 2: terrorist groups identity, using an acronym to humanize them. They 941 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 2: weren't people. They were just a thing and needed to 942 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 2: be dealt with. It was the language of the fedguff 943 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 2: which made it the language of numerica. 944 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 3: Well, why wow, there's a lot. 945 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot to unpack. I don't know if we 946 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 4: have mind going on there to unpack that the level 947 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 4: of dehumanization of three are accurate acronym terrorist groups. 948 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, what about the FBI, Like. 949 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 3: The FBI is an acrony. 950 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 2: Say yeah, so if becomes clear that's what's happened, is 951 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 2: they would you know, when these attacks started, they started 952 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 2: like following up on any leads who were kind of 953 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 2: close to some of the Sons of Liberty people that 954 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 2: they took out. And they saw on like a security 955 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 2: camera footage next to a car that used to belong 956 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 2: to someone who's in the Sons of Liberty. They got 957 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 2: a clear picture of Donald Trump. There's a they think 958 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: there's a there's a fifty three percent chance and their 959 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 2: facial recognition that it's really him. And Kayley's like, I 960 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 2: don't know, that's not very high and they're like, no, 961 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 2: take a look, and she's like, I'm confused. He was 962 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 2: arrested and put in prison. I saw the pre trial motions. 963 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: He died of a heart attack in his cell. Everyone 964 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: saw the body. It was all over the net. Dorn 965 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 2: diverted his eyes to the conference room table, and the 966 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 2: Secretary drew a long breath before continuing, what you saw 967 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 2: was what the country needed closure. Our friends in how 968 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 2: would help us craft something that would help everyone heal 969 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 2: he survived, we were unsure. We haven't seen any trace 970 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: of him or his detail since the liberation. We believe 971 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 2: there was an almost zero chance of him being alive. 972 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 2: The city was on fire and citizens were roving the streets. 973 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: The Trader President wasn't a quiet man. If he had 974 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 2: been alive, he would have popped up. We did some 975 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 2: good cgi with our Hollywood associates and gave the people 976 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: what they wanted. Justice. And then there's an Epstein reference. Jesus, Yeah, 977 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 2: of course, yeah, yeah. We couldn't have him Epstein himself. 978 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 2: He was dead, which was all we wanted. But now 979 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 2: it's clear he's not dead, and you can see. I 980 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: think Kaylee is going to turn out to be a 981 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: good character because she's disturbed that they lied about the 982 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: President being dead. I love the idea of Donald Trump 983 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 2: living in hiding in the undercraft. 984 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 4: He would hate hanging out with these guys, oh my god, 985 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 4: because they are not the same class level. Like he 986 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 4: does not fuck with these people actually, and he is 987 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: not gonna want to hang out with the sons of libert. 988 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 2: He's able to spend five or six years, completely silent 989 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: in the underground. When the real Trump gets cut off 990 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 2: of Twitter and creates a new app so that he 991 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 2: can tweet on the toilets, like the discrepancy between the 992 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 2: real man and this like cold blooded operator president is 993 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: extremely funny to me. Sure anyway, Kayley's concerned because she's 994 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 2: used to being able to see through the propaganda and 995 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 2: she hadn't caught that they lied about this, But now 996 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 2: she's like, you want me to assassinate the president of 997 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 2: the United States. He is not the president, not anymore, 998 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 2: the secretary had raged in her voice. It was understandable. 999 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 2: She and the President had been sworn enemies years before 1000 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 2: the liberation. On top of that, they've already declared him dead. 1001 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 2: The United States is what we've made it, not what 1002 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 2: he was in charge of. That country is no more. 1003 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: He's a war criminal. The man is a monster and abomination. 1004 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 2: What I want is for you to do your job. 1005 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 2: The world thinks him dead, so we need to maintain that. 1006 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: Can you do it? And uh yeah? She's like, yeah, 1007 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,279 Speaker 2: I need all the money you can give me, and 1008 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 2: I need a team. And she's told that she's gonna 1009 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 2: be She's going to have to fight against the the 1010 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: se groups out there, right, So the the remnants of 1011 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 2: the real cops have a conflict with the social enforcement 1012 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: cops because they don't actually follow any rules. They're just 1013 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: mobs of people who break windows and light your car 1014 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: on fire, which is the best word, the best world 1015 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: building in this book so far. But apparently AOC is 1016 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: in the process of trying to destroy the Social Enforcement Organization. 1017 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 4: It's great because it's, yeah, what if the world was 1018 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 4: full of like there's maybe like twenty anarchists who are 1019 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 4: actually like this, but what if everybody was those twenty people? 1020 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what if there were enough of them to 1021 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 2: overthrow the government exactly? 1022 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then just like keep going afterwards too, they 1023 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 4: just can't stop break a windows. 1024 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we get a little inside AOC. Is my here. 1025 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: Six years ago, I was an outspoken junior congresswoman, a 1026 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 2: radical in my own party. Now I control the most 1027 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: powerful agency in the Fed Gov. So yeah, she's she has. 1028 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: She pushed through the Restores Civil Liberties Act, which rolled 1029 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 2: all of the different police agencies together. So that's that's fun. 1030 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: And yeah, there's like a line about how they had 1031 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 2: to fire a few thousand cops to make this new 1032 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: cop agency. That's all the cop agencies, and that's a 1033 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 2: small price to pay for to restore public confidence. Now 1034 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: the nu American people can feel a sense of confidence 1035 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: in their law enforcement. Even in her own head. It's 1036 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: nu America. 1037 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,720 Speaker 4: So there's like the real cops and like the cancel 1038 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 4: culture cops, both working independently at the same time. 1039 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Garrison, that's my understanding. 1040 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, sure. 1041 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 2: Now that ends chapter two or chapter one. And now 1042 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: at chapter two we start in Alvarado, Texas. 1043 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 3: It was all one chapter. 1044 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 2: That was one chapter, Garrison, a lot of round right, 1045 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: he made moves. You know, we're we're almost done with 1046 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 2: this episode. But I want to introduce you to Raoul Lopez, 1047 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 2: who is He's eighteen years old and he's he's trying 1048 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 2: to decide should he join the youth cores. 1049 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 3: No. 1050 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: Most of his fellow high school graduate student line for 1051 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 2: reparation points and stimulus relief rather than the land jobs. 1052 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 2: The TV news said Numerica was prospering, but he never 1053 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 2: saw it. Many businesses had been damaged by the riots 1054 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 2: and closed up forever, and others had simply left their 1055 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 2: buildings gutted for copper wire and plumbing. 1056 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 3: So what's changed. We still have TV news, we still 1057 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 3: have businesses like mm. 1058 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1059 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 2: What's different is that the entire economy seems to be 1060 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 2: based around reparations. 1061 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 4: Reparations and stimulus. Yeah, so we have like universal basic 1062 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 4: income and reparations and nationalized healthcare. 1063 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of unclear. 1064 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 3: We did it, Joe. And they cancel culture cups. 1065 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they cancel culture mob cups. So he Raoul goes 1066 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 2: into the recruiters eye for the youth core and she's 1067 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 2: like hot. That's the first thing he notices is she's hot. 1068 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 2: She's got a small triangle insignia on her right collar, 1069 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: which he says is probably a rank. I think it 1070 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: might actually be like the queer triangle, like for concentration 1071 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: camp inmates. Because she's about to talk to him about 1072 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: the different minority groups he's a part of and how 1073 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: many points he'll get from them on his reparations. It's bad. 1074 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 2: It's bad. Garrison so weird. Also, this is a personal 1075 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 2: pet peeve, but he describes the electronic device she's using 1076 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: as a digipad, and like, just call it an iPad. 1077 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 7: Man. 1078 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: You wrote this in twenty twenty one. It's set in 1079 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. They didn't invent a new set of tablets. 1080 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 2: It just give her an iPad. 1081 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 3: It's like, it's so fine, just say tablet like this 1082 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 3: till it right? Did you? 1083 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 2: Pad? 1084 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 3: Is so pad? 1085 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on, man, like we have tablets. 1086 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 2: So Roll was the first person in his family to 1087 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: graduate high school, and she his mom, wanted him to 1088 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: go to college. Rule had tried to explain to his 1089 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 2: mother that his grades had been low, that jumping straight 1090 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 2: into college was not really an option. The problem was 1091 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: that when college had been made free, everyone wanted to go. 1092 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: The colleges couldn't handle the massive influx students got in 1093 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: based on race, sexual preference, poverty level. Even with Jesus Christ. 1094 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 1095 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: What are we doing here? 1096 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 3: How many dicks have you sucked? He's on the application. 1097 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: Paper, Jesus, Oh my god, it's so funny. I'm sorry. 1098 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 3: Not enough dix for the graduate program. 1099 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 2: Not enough dick. So your grades back, literally, that's what 1100 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 2: he's like, is like, because of all the different things 1101 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 2: that count, your grades actually matter, and my grades aren't 1102 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: high enough to get in. And that's like why the 1103 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 2: system's broken. That's so funny, Like it sounds like the 1104 00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: systems still merit based. Then, yeah, it's very funny. So 1105 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: this lady is like, no, you could. You could go 1106 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 2: to college. If you do two years in the Youth Corps. 1107 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: You get into any school that you want, right, and 1108 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 2: there's even classes in the evenings to help you prepare 1109 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 2: for school, and those grades can boost your high school 1110 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: grades retroactively so you can get into better colleges. It 1111 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: actually sounds like the Youth Corp is a great deal. 1112 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 2: Garrisons deal. You get paid, you get freedom and board, 1113 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 2: on the job training, free admission to any college you want. 1114 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 3: That's not a bad deal. 1115 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds great. So he asks does it pay, and 1116 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: she tells him we pay off the freedom scale. It 1117 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 2: isn't a lot, but we're providing you room, board and training. 1118 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: You'd be ranked by reparation points. You are Hispanic, so 1119 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 2: that would give you some points, but being male will 1120 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: hold you back for points based on sex. By any chance, 1121 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 2: are you gay? Transgender are part of an oppressed religion? 1122 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: See, I'm fine with them giving CIS men less points. 1123 00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 2: To be honest, that's exactly what she says. You'll still 1124 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 2: make more than a privileged white man. 1125 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. You're still on the team, buddy. 1126 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 2: And role asks even if we did the same work. 1127 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 2: Of course, the recruiter said with a smile. The scale 1128 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 2: rates people by their oppressed status. The more oppressed you are, 1129 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 2: the more you're compensated. It's based on the reparations scale 1130 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: used for monthly checks. It's all designed to make things fair. 1131 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 4: There's just this is so fox News break like, this 1132 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 4: is so sus Such a high number of people who 1133 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,439 Speaker 4: genuinely believe like this is what like the Democrats want 1134 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 4: to do and like like have already done for colleges, 1135 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 4: people who this is already what is happening like this, 1136 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 4: this is DEI. 1137 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 3: This is like. 1138 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 2: It's it's really funny, and it's like he's he's like, 1139 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 2: I don't what prevents somebody from just lying about being 1140 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 2: gay to get more money, But he also doesn't do that, 1141 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 2: which is kind of like suddenly working against the author's point. Anyway, 1142 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: I think this is a good place to end for 1143 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 2: now we've seen our vision of the of the terrifying 1144 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 2: antifa utopia. Garrison. I think it's interesting to see this 1145 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 2: actually laid out by somebody who's like a baseline level 1146 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 2: of competent at writing, so you can really actually see 1147 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 2: what they think is going to happen or what they 1148 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: think the Democrats want. Fascinating stuff. 1149 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 4: I do wonder what my oppression level would be, like 1150 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 4: how much do I make? I would I would love 1151 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 4: to try to try to quantify this, honestly, but maybe 1152 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 4: that's for another another time. 1153 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's for another time. Well, Garrison, you know 1154 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: what's not for another time? 1155 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 3: The end of this episode. 1156 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 2: That's fine right now? Oh yeah, what do you gotta plug? Garrison? 1157 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1158 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 4: There's probably something can happen here episode on some terrible 1159 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 4: thing that's happened that I put out recently, So go 1160 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 4: check out. 1161 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 3: It could happen here. 1162 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 4: Sometimes we talk about good things too, so you never know. 1163 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 4: It's always it's always a gamble. And then you can 1164 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,919 Speaker 4: find me on X the place to go to see 1165 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 4: what's happening at Hungry bo Tie. 1166 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where Garrison will be whipping up his social 1167 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: enforcement mob. I'll try, I'll try. 1168 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really uncomfortable hearing you call it X. 1169 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 3: I was like, what are you? 1170 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I was like, what are you talking about? And everybody 1171 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: we did it. It's fucking over. Bye. Behind the Bastards 1172 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: is a production of cool Zone Media. For more from 1173 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: cool Zone Media, visit our website cool zonemedia dot com, 1174 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 1175 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast