1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm Richard Salama. 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: And I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: All right, well, let's have a look at what's happening 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: with Apple as it extends an agreement to get the 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: modern modem semiconductors from Qualcom for three more years. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: Now. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: It's been taking as a sign that the company's efforts 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: to design its chips in house is taking rather longer 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: than anticipated. Let's get details now. Fro Bloomberg's Edlundo. 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's reported that in house, Apple has been working on 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 4: its own modem along with its other proprietary silicon strategies. 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 4: And the story here is that doing it yourself is difficult, 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: particularly when you want your modem to be able to 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 4: connect to the latest generation network five G, but also 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: work across jurisdictions. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: Wendy, That was Ed Ludler. Tomorrow, we've got Apple and 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: veiling its iphoone fifteen, as well as updated Apple watches 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: and AirPods, the iPhone maker counting on the products to 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: help reverse a sales slide that has now lasted for 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: three quarters. 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, the standoff between Disney and cable provider Charter Commune 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: seems to be over the companies were able to reach 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: an agreement to carry Disney channels. This would include ABC 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: and ESPN. Charter will also offer Disney's flagship streaming service 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: at no additional cost to cable TV subscribers. Bloomberg's Skeeter 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Raganathan says today's deal is a win win for consumers 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: and TV companies. 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: We have fourteen point seven million Charter subscribers who are 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: affected by this blackout, so this is good news for them. 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 5: But this really has huge implications for the rest of 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: the PayTV companies such as you know, a paramount of Fox, A, 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: Warner Brothers, Discovery, which are heavily reliant on you know, 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 5: PATV revenues. They're not as diversified as a Disney, for instance, 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 5: which you know, has a huge exposure to theme barbs 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: and studios and things like that. This would have had 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 5: huge ramifications if indeed it had been a permanent blackout. 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg Skeeter Raganath. And by the way, Charter 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: Communications stopped carrying Disney content for more than a week 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: because of this dispute over fees for shot. 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to a highly anticipated IPO where 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: there seems to be unprecedented demand, and of course we're 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: talking about a British computer chip designer that makes Tom 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Busby has the details. 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 6: Armholding's initial public stock offering is already oversubscribed by ten times, 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 6: and bankers say the SoftBank Group spin off plans to 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 6: stop taking orders by Tuesday afternoon, one day earlier than planned. 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 6: Even though ARM still plans to price those shares on Wednesday. 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 6: After a drought of IPOs this year, the offering could 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 6: actually end up as much as fifteen times oversubscribed by Wednesday. 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 6: Those sources tell Bloomberg, I'm Tom Busby, Bloomberg Radio. 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Well. Jamie Diamond, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase, took 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: aim at proposed higher capital requirements proposed by American regulators. 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Diamond said requiring US banks to hold more capital than 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: their international competitors is a huge negative over time. 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: The fellow reserves have humility. They're the ones that told 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: the world rache on going up, and by what wasn't 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: The Federal Reserve in general is each one of them 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: independently factors each central bank, so by with them might 60 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,279 Speaker 3: have a little more humility over stuff. 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Like this, Jamie Diamond, there the CEO of JP Morgan Chase. 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: He went on to warn that higher capital requirements will 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: make certain activities like mortgages and small business lending harder 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: for banks, and he also questioned whether regulators learned the 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: right lessons from the failures of Silicon Valley Bank and 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: First Republic earlier this year. 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Rish Okay he staying with banking UBS cutting hundreds of 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: wealth jobs in Asia as activities slows down. Let's get 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: details now from in Joanne One. 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 7: UBS has reduced some overlapping roles in the past months, 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 7: and further cuts are respected through November. The news comes 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 7: as a bank response to MUDA client activity and China's 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 7: lowing economy, where it's told jobs that will be eliminated 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 7: include relationship managers in Hong Kong and Singapore. They also 75 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 7: include the majority within teams newly acquired from Credit Sueez, 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 7: but UBS plans to keep the majority of private bankers 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 7: in Australia and India for now. In Hong Kong. I'm 78 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 7: joined one Bloomberg Radio. 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Well, it seems as though the Chinese economy may be stabilizing. 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: We've got some indications that may be happening when you 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: look at credit creation and data on inflation both seem 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to be improving. Here's Bloomberg's Bonniel. 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 8: The strong credit data published Monday by China's Central Bank 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 8: showed recent policy measures may be starting to lift household 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 8: demand for mortgages. Corporate loans also picked up. The un 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 8: gained after the central bank escalated its defense of the currency. 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 8: Those add to the encouraging signs from the weekend. China's 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 8: consumer prices returned to gains after its July drop, and 89 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 8: factory gates deflation also narrowed. Now economists say the key 90 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 8: question is to what extent the economic momentum can be 91 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 8: sustained in Hong Kong. I'm Bonniel Bloomberg Radio. 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Well Today. In the US, the market certainly kept a 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: close eye on news regarding negotiations between the United Auto 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Workers and the big automakers. The Biden administration is deploying 95 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: some top officials to help facilitate these talks. The UAW 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: said it's ready to negotiate day and night with GM 97 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: Ford and to Atlantis until a deal is reached by 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: that deadline, which I believe is September fourteenth now. According 99 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: to Anderson Economic Group, over in Michigan. Just ten days 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: of a strike would reduce US GDP by five point 101 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: six billion, and it would also likely push Michigan's economy 102 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: into recession. It could also make some car models scarce 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: and push prices up after they started coming down from 104 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: those record levels. Daybreak Asia and an update on Global 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: News is next State Media and North Korea is confirming 106 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: the upcoming meeting between Kim Jong un and Vladimir Putin. 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: We have ed Baxter on Global News, Eddie. 108 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks Doug. They both have things the other desperately needs. 109 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 9: North Korea weaponry could allow Russia to prolong at Ukraine invasion, 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 9: but there are questions about how much difference it'll make overall. 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 9: First response from the US State Department Matthew Miller. 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 10: Obviously, it means that he is having trouble sustaining the 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 10: military effort and so it is looking for help. 114 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 9: And Miller says going on and. 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 10: Only as he failed to achieve his goals on the battlefield. 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 10: But you see him traveling across his own country hat 117 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 10: in hand to beg Kim John Un for military assistant. 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 9: And says sanctions on Russia are apparently working. 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 10: I think the fact that Russia is having to beg 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 10: North Korea for military sport speaks to the effectiveness of 121 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 10: our sanctions and our export controls. That they have been 122 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 10: denied the technology they need and the raw materials they 123 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 10: need to fund. 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 9: Meeting expected in the next couple of days. Meanwhile, a 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 9: senior NATO official and Elena Beherbach saying that Russia is 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 9: likely to be able to mount a significant offensive operation 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 9: this year is not going to be able because of 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 9: a lack of munitions. FDA has approved the Pfizer Maderna 129 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 9: vaccines today as there is a tick up and late 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 9: summer surge of the virus. Peter Marks of the FDA 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 9: says the public can be assured that the update vaccines 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 9: are safe. It should be noted these are not boosters. 133 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 9: They are updated vaccines to protect against the new variants. 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 9: Approof for ages twelve and up. CDC supposed to meet 135 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 9: tomorrow to issue guidance. Donald Trump has filed a motion 136 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 9: to disqualify the judge and the Federal Election Prosecution, remembering 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 9: nine to eleven, twenty two years ago, an attack on 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 9: America New York City the Pentagon United Flight ninety three. 139 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 9: President Biden, returning from the g Ton of twenty here 140 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 9: with troops in Anchorage, Alaska. 141 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 11: Never forget, we never forget each of us, each of 142 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 11: those precious lives stolen too soon when evil attacked Browns 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 11: Are in New York. And I remember standing there the 144 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 11: next day and looking at the building. I felt like 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 11: I was looking through the gates of hell. 146 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 9: So many memories. Howard Lutnick, CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, was 147 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 9: on his way back to his office at the World 148 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 9: Trade Center. 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 12: Then the building collapsed. I ran for my life and 150 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 12: I ended up diving under a car. And you've all 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 12: seen that sort of tornado of black smoke while I 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 12: was stuck in that black smoke. And then I wandered. 153 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 12: I wandered uptown until people were cleaned. When I called, 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 12: you know, someone was on a payphone and I went 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 12: to the front of the line and they looked at 156 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 12: me like I was a ghost because I was just 157 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 12: covered in soot. And I called my wife to tell 158 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 12: her I was alive. 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 9: Lad Nex says Cannabis raised three hundred and eighty million 160 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 9: dollars for families and survivors over the twenty two years, 161 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 9: and of course services today New York City the reading 162 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 9: of names. 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: Doctor Paul W. M. 164 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 10: Brose, specialist Craig S. 165 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: Emmonson United States. 166 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 9: Army and in Washington, d C. The Chimes Global News, 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 9: powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts 168 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 9: in over one hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, I 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 9: met Baxter. This is Bloomberg to our guest. Now, Anthony 170 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 9: Doyle is with us. He has head of investment strategy 171 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 9: at Fire Trail Investments in Sydney, joining us from our 172 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 9: studios there. Anthony, thanks for being with us. I think 173 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 9: we've got to begin with some of these sharp movements 174 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 9: that we saw in the foreign exchange. I mean a 175 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 9: big drop in the dollar and a rally not only 176 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 9: in the Japanese currency, but the offshore Chinese currency as well. 177 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Have we reached a turning point? Do you think in 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: the dollar story? 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 13: It's probably far too early to say at this point. Obviously, 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 13: one data point, one day's training doesn't make a trend, 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 13: and with the continued expectation that the FED is potentially 182 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 13: going to land the US economy on the soft landing airstrip, 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 13: much will depend upon the CPI print. I think that 184 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 13: we're going to see on Wednesday, and whether we start 185 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 13: to see the bond market repricing expectations for further interest 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 13: rate moves from the US Federal Reserve. So obviously there 187 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 13: is central bank action with the BOJ and a central 188 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 13: bank in terms of their own currencies in order to 189 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 13: support their own economies at this point in the cycle. 190 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 13: But I think much will depend upon those interest rate 191 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 13: expectations moving forward. 192 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: They're done though, the Fed, aren't they really, Anthony? 193 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 13: In my expectation, I think that they are. I think 194 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 13: that increasingly what we are seeing is the deceleration of 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 13: that headline number and core inflation expected to print at 196 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 13: point two percent on Wednesday, So I think that the 197 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 13: Fed is probably built up sufficient time now to wait 198 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 13: and assess the incoming data. But that said, we are 199 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 13: seeing concerns around potential wage stickiness arise, and that will 200 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 13: be a point of contention I think amongst the FED 201 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 13: voters in terms of where the potential policy could move 202 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 13: over the course of the coming six to twelve months. 203 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Anthony, Let's pivot to China next. Over the world weekend, 204 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: we had some credit data for August numbers better than expected. 205 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: In the week ahead, we'll get data on industrial production, 206 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: retail sales, among some other data points. And I'm wondering 207 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: how you're feeling about the story on China's economy right now. 208 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Has a bottom been put in? Is that a bold statement? 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 13: I mean, China is a concern for us. We currently 210 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 13: have no direct exposure and it bears careful watching. Again, 211 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 13: it's very very early days there in terms of a 212 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 13: potential bottoming out of this cyclical downturn that we are experiencing. 213 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 13: There are obviously concerns around the commercial property market. We 214 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 13: are seeing a loosening of credit standards in order to 215 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 13: support the Chinese economy. But this isn't simply a case 216 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 13: of returning back to the infrastructure push that we saw POSTGFC. 217 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 13: There is obviously deteriorating demographics, but what really concerns us 218 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 13: is the high level of youth unemployment over twenty percent, 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 13: and that the Chinese authorities have now started to stop 220 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 13: printing those numbers on a regular basis. So there is 221 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 13: significant amount of deflatory forces that persist within the Chinese economy. 222 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: They are starting to resolve to some extent. 223 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 13: But that infrastructure build has increased supply capacity significantly. 224 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 2: Well, certainly, I mean you can't go back to the 225 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: same playbook as to get yourself out of the hole 226 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: that the Chinese economy finds it in itself, and simply 227 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: because of the depth of the country is in. But 228 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: I want to put it to you to mention the 229 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: cyclical downturn. Surely this is a structural downturn as for 230 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: the aforementioned reasons, as you said, demographics and youth unemployment 231 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: in the lake. 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 13: Yeah, so I think the days of those sort of 233 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 13: north of five percent growth rates that the Chinese authorities 234 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 13: have targeted year after year. I mean naturally, as an 235 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 13: economy grows wealthier, as the citizens of that nation grows wealthier, 236 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 13: becomes much more difficult to generate those sorts of growth rates, 237 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 13: particularly with declining demographics. You know, GDP growth is simply 238 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 13: productivity growth and population growth. And certainly post COVID it 239 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 13: looks like this trend of deglobalization is continuing and the 240 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 13: reshoring of supply chains by companies internationally is continuing. So 241 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 13: China will no longer likely be the significant engine of 242 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 13: growth that it has been. But still it is obviously 243 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 13: one of the world's largest economies, if not the largest economy, 244 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 13: and I think when it comes to the outlook for 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 13: the Chinese economy, certainly the authorities there have shown a 246 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 13: willingness to support growth in order to drive higher socioeconomic outcomes. 247 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk in the remaining moments that we have 248 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: about the third largest economy in the world, Japan. The 249 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: niin k up this year by more than twenty four 250 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: percent in about thirty seconds, Anthony, would you be exposed 251 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: to Chinese equities at this point if you don't currently 252 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: have a position. 253 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 13: So I have no exposure in China. 254 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: I have no exposure to Japan. 255 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 13: That's not because we aren't looking for opportunities there, but 256 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 13: we are scouring the marketplace to see if there are 257 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 13: companies that can suit our investment philosophy of sustainable earnings 258 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 13: and sustainable business models. So we haven't got there yet. 259 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 13: The yen has moved a long way that's supported international 260 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 13: investors and he's likely to continue to do so. So 261 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 13: I would favor Japan over China at this point in 262 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 13: the cycle. 263 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Anthony, Thank you so much for making the trip into 264 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: our studios in the Sydney Anthony Doyle, head of investment 265 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: strategy at Fire Trail Investments, joining us here on a DBA. 266 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Asia. 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