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Speaker 1: Fantasy Freaks and geeks James go here on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Lives podcast, joined as always by the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer Michael Fabriano. Good to see you again, my friend

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Speaker 1: after a week off. How you doing, Pal? I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel sorry for you. Your arms in a sling.

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Speaker 1: This is no joke. This sling is no joke. How

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Speaker 1: do you sleep in that? Um? I actually have to

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Speaker 1: sleep semi upright, which is terrible. It's the worst. It's

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Speaker 1: the worst we got. Marcus Grant, MG, what up in

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Speaker 1: the house? Thanks for filling in for me last week.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And the wiz kid from Wisconsin, Alex

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Speaker 1: gil Har what's up man? How you doing? Not too much?

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Speaker 1: Excited to have you back in the chair. It fairly

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Speaker 1: feels like we're whole again, right serio. I am not whole.

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Speaker 1: I am not whole. Well, no you are. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you what sucks about using

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Speaker 1: is that I have a built in excuse not to

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Speaker 1: do chores, so that's nice. But other than that, everything,

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Speaker 1: Because it's my right arm too, People ask me how

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Speaker 1: did I injure it? Believe it or not. It actually

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Speaker 1: is football related. I was throwing football around, um, after

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Speaker 1: a few adult beverages, and uh, and I did not

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Speaker 1: properly warm up my arm. But you were loose alright,

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Speaker 1: at least I thought I was. I started firing laser beams, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, and about three throws in, I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, um, exactly, that's exactly right. So yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I got the I got the surgery a week ago,

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Speaker 1: and man, it's just miserable. Today is the first day

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Speaker 1: look like Tarzan and pajama pants is basically, Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: not a good look. You wish you had Tarzan's physique.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, actually, that I look like a

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Speaker 1: Just you go right, exactly. I feel like, hey, gimpy.

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Speaker 1: All right. Um, yesterday was the first day I wasn't

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Speaker 1: I I shaved, you know, the first time in a week.

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Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about. Can you move over

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Speaker 1: I just I just washed my hair yesterday. Man, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: I'm good to go. I'm ready to rock and roll.

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Speaker 1: Let's do this thing. Let's talk off top fantasy headlines.

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Speaker 1: Number one headline, I'll get Todd. NFL media insider in

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Speaker 1: Rapp Report reported Tuesday that Girl is expected to be

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Speaker 1: on the non football injury list to start training camp.

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Speaker 1: That accorded sources informed of his situation, the Rams can

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Speaker 1: take him off the list whenever he feels whenever they

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Speaker 1: feel he is fully ready. There have been no reports

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Speaker 1: about sec set back with girlies Naith throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: That's good. The team was non committal about Girly being

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Speaker 1: ready for camp, though coach Jeff Fisher did say quote,

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Speaker 1: you could probably assume Girly will play sooner than you think.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean, Well, it means that the Trey

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Speaker 1: And if you do draft girly, you need to get

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Speaker 1: Mason late. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for

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Speaker 1: forced to miss a few weeks. Uh. We've seen that

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Speaker 1: here is simple. When Todd Gurley is on that football field,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the centerpiece of that offense. They drafted

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Speaker 1: a fantasy star. All right. Let me let me play

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Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here for your fabs. He tore an a

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Todd Gurley is the guy, But I

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Speaker 1: still think Trey Mason's gonna have some value this year.

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Speaker 1: Shaking your head there, Yeah, that was exactly my point.

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Speaker 1: Nobody had uttered the dreaded s word on the podcast yet,

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Speaker 1: But I think that this is gonna be headed towards that.

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Speaker 1: Even I'm encouraged and I'm probably bumped girly up a

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Speaker 1: They invested a top ten overall picking this guy. They're

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Speaker 1: And to say that he's being overdrafted with an ADP

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Speaker 1: to crush about fifteen twenty minutes of your time. Just

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Speaker 1: go to YouTube. Wait, should we leave the room here,

425
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Speaker 1: Harry Tate office Linebacker? Google it. You will not be disappointed,

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Speaker 1: all right? Anyways, Thomas Kastner at t J l K,

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Speaker 1: I plan to keep Levan Bell instead of Megatron. Should

428
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Speaker 1: I draft de Angelo Williams for the first three weeks?

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Speaker 1: And in what round? I like this question, Marcus, Yes,

430
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Speaker 1: you should draft the Angelo Williams for the first three weeks.

431
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Speaker 1: I mean, as for what round sounded like there? Why

432
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Speaker 1: don't you just tell me what you want? Don't you

433
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Speaker 1: tell me what's running back you'd like to draft? Um? Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna have to draft him. It would

435
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Speaker 1: have made sense to handcuff him anyway, even he even

436
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Speaker 1: he if he was going to be there for the

437
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Speaker 1: first three weeks of the season, because you were looking

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Speaker 1: at getting him, You're gonna have to reach a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier for D'angela Williams. I mean, right now he's

440
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Speaker 1: got it in an a DP of the twelveth round.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go and get him, probably a

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Speaker 1: little earlier, I'd say, probably round nine something like that,

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Speaker 1: just to make sure he's going to be there. Because

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Speaker 1: if everybody knows if you're holding on le Bell, they

445
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Speaker 1: will somebody's gonna try to snake him from you and

446
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Speaker 1: then make a deal. And that's why I'm saying I

447
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Speaker 1: almost say, just look, you you kept Levian Bell. He's

448
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Speaker 1: a top five pick. Just ensure the pick, make the

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Speaker 1: D'Angelo Williams pick in the seventh round, and don't, oh

450
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Speaker 1: my goodness, way round. In a keeper league, all right,

451
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Speaker 1: there are there's a plenty of guys already off the board.

452
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Speaker 1: That's true. In a keeper league, you're gonna have to spend.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to spend good value to get D'Angel would.

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Speaker 1: Just to secure your top five pick in that seventh round,

455
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Speaker 1: you could grab somebody probably like an Isaiah crow Well

456
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Speaker 1: or a Tevin Coleman or something you could reach around

457
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Speaker 1: earlier on somebody that's going to have a better chance

458
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Speaker 1: for production in those first three weeks. I'm telling you

459
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Speaker 1: what keeper leagues those guys are all we don't know.

460
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Speaker 1: We don't know how many keepers they're keeping. It might

461
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Speaker 1: be a one keeper league and everybody's keeping Foster and

462
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Speaker 1: Bell like I don't. I wouldn't even I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I could dram Williams. And that's why it's so

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Speaker 1: hard to answer keeper questions because there's not like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm in a standard league, all right, perfect, then we

466
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Speaker 1: know exactly what you're dealing with. It's ten teams in

467
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Speaker 1: keeper leagues like I'm in one keeper league where you

468
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Speaker 1: can keep as many as three players, but you can't

469
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Speaker 1: keep them after two years. They're all under contract until then.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, God, there are so many different versions

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Speaker 1: of standards, so I guess, I guess, Look, there is

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Speaker 1: no standard keeper. Well, there a lot of them. There

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Speaker 1: really isn't a formats or one keeper. Yeah that would.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's standard, but who knows. Okay,

475
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Speaker 1: you know one keeper league, Okay, uh, d'angela Williams ninth round,

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Speaker 1: That's what I said night. I don't know for me.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather take one of those other guys that has

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Speaker 1: a chance for better production. Daniel Williams has seedy yards

479
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Speaker 1: per attempt to drop every year for the last four years. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, committee him with three Archer and

481
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Speaker 1: other guys, and they're probably just gonna sling the rock

482
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Speaker 1: to Martavis Bryant Archer. I mean, I really do scrit

483
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Speaker 1: a three archer. But you can put your faith in

484
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Speaker 1: D'Angel Williams, but can't say anything bad about It's only

485
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Speaker 1: it's only for a few weeks. I mean, I I

486
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Speaker 1: think he can get a couple of scores in the

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Speaker 1: first three weeks. I agree, he can find his way

488
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Speaker 1: to the office. It's a great offense they got in pitch.

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Speaker 1: You know, a couple of score off just grab him

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Speaker 1: and hope he look. You know what you say that

491
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Speaker 1: you laugh about that. I have a friend who once

492
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Speaker 1: made the playoffs because needing one win getting to the postseason,

493
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Speaker 1: he picked up Zach Crockett off the waiver wire. Crockett

494
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Speaker 1: had like a four carry, three yard three touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mabby love it, Robbie, next mail, bad question, God, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one whale. This is for our twelve to fifteen year

497
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Speaker 1: old demos right, Robbie at the Real brown Man, which

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Speaker 1: I love the Twitter handle. By the way, he asked,

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Speaker 1: is Samuel Watkins a Sammuy Watkins gonna line up as

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver one on my team this year? Real quick?

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Speaker 1: Before he devon pulled back the curtain. This is actually

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Speaker 1: Franchises boy in his league of record. I believe it's

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Speaker 1: his birthday, so asked if we can get his question

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Speaker 1: on Oh yeah, happy birthday, Robbie the Real brown Man,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday, and I would say no, he will not

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Speaker 1: be a number one one receiver in fantasy this year. Uh,

507
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Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number One, who in the heck is

508
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Speaker 1: the quarterback in Buffalo? I mean is it not? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But whofle in the off season? Is it gonna be EJ? Manuel?

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Speaker 1: Who went to that great college Florida State that puts

511
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Speaker 1: out awesome quarterbacks in the NFL? Uh sarcastically. And Rex

512
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Speaker 1: Ryan loves to run the football. They're gonna run it

513
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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna run it again. Greg Romans gonna

514
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Speaker 1: utilize Charles Clay. I think Clay could end up be

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Speaker 1: the second most targeted player on that team easily. They

516
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Speaker 1: pick him a boatload of money to not just block

517
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Speaker 1: four million dollars in the last two years. They're gonna

518
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: two years is what he's gonna make. They're gonna throw

519
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: them the ball and that's gonna eat into Watkinson's time.

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Speaker 1: I like Watkins, I just don't like him as a one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you're rolling with sam Watkins is a one, you're

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Yeah, give him to high three. I'll be

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Speaker 1: old with it, Marcus. Anything else? Uh? Nothing that that

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Speaker 1: that about covers is I think you guys are pretty

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Speaker 1: much So No, do not use Sammy Watkins as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver one Robb on your team next year? Next

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Speaker 1: middle back? Question? Would you want? Oh, this is from

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Speaker 1: guru at au Nick five. Would you want the eighth

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Speaker 1: and seventeen or the twelfth pick this year in fantasy?

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Speaker 1: So basically, do you want to be the eighth pick

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Speaker 1: or the twelfth pick? Uh? This year? Fans in fantasy? Essentially, Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: this is and this is for a twelve team league.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming standard scoring, guessing there's some sort of trade

534
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: on the table. So you would think, you, man, you

535
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Speaker 1: gotta be able to draft successfully from any spot that

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Speaker 1: you're given eight and seventeen, you're you're not so much

537
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Speaker 1: in the middle, you're kind of in the in the

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Speaker 1: second half of of that that first round. I would

539
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Speaker 1: much rather have the eighth pick. But but then you

540
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: also can get two really good players at twelve and thirteen,

541
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Speaker 1: whereas at seventeen you might miss out on somebody that

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Speaker 1: you might otherwise have gotten. So say at twelve, say

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Speaker 1: if I go after a running back, I would say

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill might be there, and then at thirteen I

545
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: might be able to get des or Calvin or because

546
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Speaker 1: you know my philosophy of going running back wide receiver

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Speaker 1: typically uh in the first couple of picks. So I

548
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: like that at the eighth pick, I'm getting maybe Forte

549
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 1: maybe c. J. Anderson or potentially Lashawn McCoy. What does

550
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: that smark you got in your face? I know you

551
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: want to take Andrew Luck, but I'm not going there.

552
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't want him. I want him, but you've read

553
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: my mind, I know. Let me tell you why I

554
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Speaker 1: love that number eight pick. First of all, I hate

555
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Speaker 1: drafting at the top and at the bottom of of

556
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: every fantasy draft. To me, I mean, seriously, fifty of

557
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: the fun of fantasy is drafting. That draft day for me,

558
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'll get everything. I'll is just frustration exactly.

559
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I get my bucket, a KFC, a couple of forties.

560
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm ready to rock and roll. What that's right? This

561
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: is a Snoop Dogg video. This is a tradition in

562
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: the co household. Draft day comes around. In my league

563
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: of record, it's it's a bucket of fried chicken, It's

564
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: a couple of six packs, and we're rocking and rolling.

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00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: It's some pepto afterwards. That's absolutely true, especially damn. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is, when you pick at the top or

567
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: the bottom of the draft, you can't think about your pick.

568
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean literally, it's just let me just grab the

569
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Speaker 1: two guys I like and then just move on. And

570
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Speaker 1: then I gotta wait forty five minutes from my pick

571
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Speaker 1: to come around. That's no fun. There's a lot more

572
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: strategicy when you have to pick a fifth, six, seventh.

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Speaker 1: Anybody got a dictionary to look that up? And and

574
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: and that's why I love it. I love I love

575
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: getting that eighth pick and then and then trying to

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00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: stretch out my picks. You know what I'm saying. Maybe

577
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: we're in the city in the fifth round, and I'm

578
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: trying to wretch your pick. Maybe a guy that I'll

579
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Speaker 1: take in the fifth Maybe he'll be there in this

580
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but that's part of the fun of

581
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Speaker 1: drafting for me. So I'd much rather have the eighth

582
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: just based off of pure fun value now this year,

583
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Speaker 1: especially because I've said it a million times over, I'd

584
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Speaker 1: love to have the eighth pick and take a quarterback.

585
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Just just let me have the guy. Just let me

586
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Speaker 1: have Andrew Luck. Let me let me just have Andrew

587
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Luck in the eighth pick. I mean, we'll stand, we'll

588
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: stand aside. And I think all it depends on is

589
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: how a Unick five's board stacks up. There are two

590
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: players that he definitely wants to have in the maybe

591
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Speaker 1: his top fifteen. Then take that twelve thirteen picks. You

592
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: can two of them. If you've got guys you like

593
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: that stretch, If you want to have no fun or something,

594
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: take that twelve pick eight. Grab grab your first guy

595
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: because you have a better chance to get your first guy,

596
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: and then see who's there the second one. Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I hope I get the eighth pick on twelve. Rond. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having the eighth pick, just because there's

599
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: probably one There's there's always one guy you're kind of

600
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Speaker 1: targeting in that first round, and you want to make

601
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Speaker 1: sure he's there and you have a better chance of

602
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: getting him at eight then you would at twelve. Plus.

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00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: I do like James thought that, you know, when you're

604
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: at the back end of a draft, there's no point

605
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: of scheming and trying to like playing out like you know,

606
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: like trying to put guys in your queue and stuff

607
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: like that. In an hour, you can start thinking about

608
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: what you're gonna take. You the turn, you're like, oh,

609
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe this is They're not gonna take a tight end.

610
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: But then the tight end round starts, You're like nope.

611
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: And then you're like, but that decision has already been

612
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: made for you, is what I'm saying. You know, you're playing,

613
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: you're playing on the I mean, it's no fun being

614
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: on the back end because literally, just take two guys

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Speaker 1: that you want, just move on. Just eat your chicken,

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00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: all right, all right? Should we go to the next second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that needs to be a catch phrase, by the way,

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Speaker 1: just eat your chicken. It's like coconus smile. But for me,

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Speaker 1: it's just you know, eat your chicken. Hey, wait a minute,

620
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Speaker 1: isn't Pepsi the official sponsor for the NFL? Yeah? Whatever, game,

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Speaker 1: just drink Pepsi? Sure, all right, Look, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: for a segment we're calling bust a Move, so don't

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Speaker 1: just stand the move. It's a series that is the

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Speaker 1: brandchild of MG Marcus Grant. You can find it right

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Speaker 1: now at NFL dot com Slash busta Move that would

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Speaker 1: be bus t a m o v E bust Move.

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Speaker 1: Every week, Marcus Grant is looking at some of the

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Speaker 1: biggest fantasy bus from and avalue, evaluating whether those players

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Speaker 1: are destined to remain duds or could they return to

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Speaker 1: the limelight that could they be studs once again and

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Speaker 1: possibly some serious draft bargains. We're gonna start with Colin Kaepernick.

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Speaker 1: Man A very disappointed to say the least finished of

633
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: the sixteenth best fantasy quarterback. And man, I'll tell you what,

634
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: he absolutely fell apart late last year. What does bust

635
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: a Move say regarding Colin Kaepernick? Can he come back

636
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: to form? I think we've seen the best of Colin Kaepernick.

637
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's hit his fantasy ceiling. And

638
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: I think he'll be better than he was last year.

639
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: But if you're thinking he's gonna jump jump back and

640
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: be a top ten quarterback, he's gonna be a QB

641
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: one for you, you're gonna be disappointed. I think he's

642
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: a guy who is kind of a matchup based starter.

643
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: He's a nice backup to have on your bench. But um,

644
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, last year I watched just watching his tape,

645
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: he's inaccurate. Um, and he's kind of one of those

646
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: guys who is an athlete playing quarterback as opposed to

647
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: being a quarterback. Uh, you know, just flat out. So

648
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: I think I think we've seen what Colin Kaepernet can do.

649
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: And uh, you know I said before I said last

650
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: week on the podcast, I wrote in the piece they

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: could just sitting him down and make him just watch

652
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson tape over and over again, like on in,

653
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: I think he'd be a better quarterback. But I think

654
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: I think he is what he is right now. His

655
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: his saving graces, his legs. From a fantasy perspective, that's

656
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: where he can make a lot of hay for your

657
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: fantasy team. Uh. He's worked on his accuracy. He worked

658
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: with Kurt Warner in the offseason. A couple of questions

659
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: I have though, is number one boy, I mean that

660
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: offense is has got some question marks, especially in terms

661
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: of of the options that he'll have in the passing game. Uh. Yes,

662
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: they brought in Torry Smith, Michael Crabtree has gone. Vernon

663
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Davis disappeared last year, although I think he bounces back. Um,

664
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: And Kuan Bolden is another year older too, so he's

665
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna be an intriguing sort of QB two. But he's

666
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: not someone that you're drafting with the thought that he's

667
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: going to come back and be a top ten fantasy

668
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea who he's gonna throw two next year,

669
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: no clue. But that being said, well we know, we're

670
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: just not sure how well it's going to be executed. Now,

671
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: now that being said, um, I feel like we say

672
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: the same thing every year about Cam Newton, and I

673
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: get that last year he was I don't know about

674
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: you know what I think co is on some of

675
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: those pain killing I'll tell you right now, absolutely, because

676
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: Camp was the top four fantasy quarterback is first. But

677
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about situation. I'm taking I'm talking about situationally,

678
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: we're talking were. We say the same things about Cam Newton.

679
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: The guy's got great legs, but he doesn't have any targets,

680
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: But who cares. Let's just run him out there, and

681
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna use his legs to pick

682
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: up enough fantacy points to somewhere cracking at the top five.

683
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: He wasn't a top five quarterback last year. I got that.

684
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: But he did come on strong late last year and

685
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: he's awesome had targets. Last year, he was just injured. Yeah,

686
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: he was two right. He came in, had the ankle surgery,

687
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: then he heard his rib, then he had the car accident.

688
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: It was sort of a mess for him. But at

689
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: the end of the year, like you mentioned, he came

690
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: on strong. He started to get hot, and you and

691
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: where his numbers were the most intriguing for fantasy owners.

692
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: Look at his rushing totals over the last four weeks.

693
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: He ran it. He found the end zone. It was very,

694
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: very very good to start Cam late last year. But

695
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm trying to say about Colin Kaepernick. Look,

696
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: I get it, he's not that big, physical, bruising guy

697
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton is, but he's got great legs. He's

698
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: got great speed. I love the cannon. He's gotten the right.

699
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: It's not very accurate, I get that, But he can

700
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: squeeze any throat, uh that that he wants. Again, not

701
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: terribly accurate. I get at that. But Colin Kaepernick, to

702
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: me at least has, as Mike said, I mean, beyond

703
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: interesting upside to me what I drafted him. Absolutely there

704
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: is what am I telling. Am I saying that he

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: you should draft him as a guaranteed quarterback one? No way,

706
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: absolutely not. But again, a rotational guy who may late

707
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: develop or heck, maybe he carries you early. I don't know,

708
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: but I think there's gonna be a three game stretch

709
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: where he figures it out, and then he'll unfigure it out,

710
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: and then he'll figure it out again. But I think

711
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be stretches next year where Colin Kaepernick really

712
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: doesn't merge. We'll talk about his teammate. You mentioned it,

713
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: Fabs Vernon Davis. He had thirty six Fantasy points total

714
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: last year. He had sixteen in Week one. He had

715
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: twenty Fantasy points over his last fifteen games. Man does

716
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: he come back? Vernon Davis? Marcus Grant. I think he

717
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: does I really do. I actually like what Vernon d

718
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: has to offer this year. Um, you know, we always

719
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: talk about how awful the tight end position, as we

720
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. Was he last year? He was bad? No,

721
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: he was bad. He had had some nagging injuries. The

722
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: one thing that surprised me looking at him from last

723
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: year the drops and that was kind of out of

724
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: character for him. And he's a guy who generally had

725
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: good hands. Last year he struggled dropping the football and

726
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: right now I'm chucking that up to it kind of

727
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: just being a bad year for him. Everybody gets one.

728
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I think last year was kind of his so I

729
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: I just everything else I saw on him on tape

730
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: I really liked, and so I think this is the

731
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: year he starts to bounce back, in part because there's

732
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: still so many unknown pieces in that offense. I mean,

733
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: Tory Smith has been underwhelming in his career, and Kwan Bolden,

734
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: for as good as he's been the last couple of years,

735
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: is still on the downside of his career, and you

736
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: wonder how much longer he can keep that going. I

737
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: think this is the year that you can get Vernon

738
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Davis for a good draft price and getting him as

739
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: kind of a mid tier tide in one. Yeah, he's

740
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: someone who if I don't draft uh one of the

741
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: five best tight ends on my board, I will try

742
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: to go after him. You're top, hoping, hoping that he

743
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: turns it around. Well, Ron Julius, I think we could basically, No,

744
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: not Julius, I think we could basically. I'll say it

745
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: in stereo. Right, it's Gron, it's Graham, it's uh got

746
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: Kelsey exactly. And then Martella s Bennett. So because Gates

747
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: dropped out of there. Once he's suspended for four games, Uh,

748
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: I think Geep Chris will start to utilize Vernon like

749
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: he was utilized in the past. Uh. Steve Wise, she

750
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: was an NFL insider here at the NFL Network, told

751
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: me that when he went to O. T. A. S.

752
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: They were using Davis. They're going to use him. He

753
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: won't be as bad as he was last year. He

754
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: won't be which is impossible. As his best which was

755
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: the top tight end, its best years were also like

756
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: supremely touchdown dependent. I looked at that both those years

757
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: where he was like top two, top three, like almost fifty.

758
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: That's that's tight ends a little some Yeah, but they

759
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: weren't quite that high. What he has on his side

760
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: from a value perspective this year is that the tight

761
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: end position is bad. It's really bad. I mean, we're

762
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: hoping that guys like zach Ertz, for example, breakout finally. Uh.

763
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: You know, we're hoping that the Lanny Walker can be

764
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: to what he was again last year, or that Jordan

765
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Cameron can avoid the trainer's room and actually play fourteen

766
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: to sixteen games. So that's one of the things Davis

767
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: has on his side, uh, is that, you know what,

768
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: he could end up being a top ten tight end

769
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: in fantasy in because the position is so weak this year.

770
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is that people talk about, well,

771
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: why is the tight end position from a fantasy perspective

772
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: so weak? It's a lot. It's it's it's very similar

773
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: to why the running back position has been weakened considerably

774
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: in fantasy and in real life as well. For the

775
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: first time, the vast majority of NFL offenses are using

776
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: tight end by committee. That's what we're seeing. We're seeing

777
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: two tight ends being utilized in different sets. Guys aren't

778
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: out there because some guys are blockers, some guys are

779
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: pass catchers. And we're seeing these committee approaches at the

780
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: tight end position, and that is why there's such a

781
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: steep drop off from the top. Let's just say two

782
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: or three guys, uh to two. Now you know the

783
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: bottom the rest of the league basically. But yeah, you're right,

784
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: Vernon Davis a very interesting, intriguing player because he's an

785
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: athletic freak. My only question about Vernon Davis is his

786
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: head a hundred percent in football? I'm not a hundred

787
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: percent sure it is. That being said, there's gonna be

788
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: a ton of targets in San Francisco. He's interesting to me.

789
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: All Right, we move on Keenan Allen. After a thousand

790
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: yard rookie season, he had a big times off more

791
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: slump man seven eighty three yards, just four touchdowns. That

792
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: was following again, a thousand yard eight touchdown rookie year.

793
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Here's my thing about Keenan Allen. The scary numbers for

794
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: me last year he had more targets and more receptions

795
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: than he did in his rookie He just was just

796
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: straight up less productive. Does he bounce back markets I

797
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: think he does. I mean, he's he's a guy who

798
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: I think when it's all said and done is one

799
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: of those consistent kind of wide receiver two guys. I mean,

800
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: the big difference when you look at it between his

801
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 1: rookie year and his sophomore year was yards after catch.

802
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a he was a yak machine

803
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: when he was a rookie. You know, he's sotasy like

804
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: the yak machine machine. I might have to do that. Um.

805
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: That was one thing that that disappeared for him his

806
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: second year, because you're right, he had more targets, he

807
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: had more receptions. The yards were down, the touchdowns were down.

808
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: But I think I think he's a guy who I

809
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: mean we saw coming out of out of Cow. The

810
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: big knock on him is that he's not a guy

811
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: with a lot of straight line speed. He's not a

812
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: burner in that respect, but he runs great routes. He's

813
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: got very consistent hands. I mean, you put the ball

814
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: anywhere in his in his area code, he's gonna hold

815
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: onto that thing. So I think as long as he's

816
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: consistent like that, he still has a good quarterback in

817
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers who can deliver the football for him. And

818
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: it will help that there's no Antonio Gates for the

819
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: first month of the season. There's gonna be potentially more

820
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: targets coming Alan's way. So he's a guy who bounces

821
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: back again. He's a wide receiver too. If you're looking

822
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: for something more than that, then he's not gonna be

823
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: your guy. But if you're fine with him being your

824
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: second receiver, I think he's gonna be good for you.

825
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: And we're hearing good things this offseason about him being

826
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: more focused, more determined after having a bad sophomore season.

827
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: And uh, I wouldn't be surprised if he has eighty

828
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: or ninety catches, maybe see some more time in the

829
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: slot this year. Uh So Alan is a guy that

830
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: I do like. I think Marcus is right. He's in

831
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: that number two wide receiver category. Uh won't be won't

832
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: be a number one maybe a little bit useful in

833
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: PPR leagues two because I think the targets will be there.

834
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: You know, I was speaking of the targets. You know,

835
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. Gates is gonna be out for the

836
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: first four weeks, and I thought, Oh, that's gonna be

837
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: a boon to Keenan Allen. But then I started thinking about,

838
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, they drafted a guy like Melvin Gordon great

839
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: out of the backfield catching the football. Uh and Danny

840
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Woodhead is coming back as well. That dude eats up

841
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: a lot of targets as well. I don't know, he

842
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: had a hundred and twenty two targets last year. I

843
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he gets more than that. I gotta

844
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get less than that. I'm I'm concerned

845
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: about it. I'm I think I'm the lowest on them

846
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: here because I mentioned this on the pod last week

847
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: that in Philip rivers ten years as a starter, he's

848
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: only had a thousand yard receiver, including Antonio Gates, six

849
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: times in ten years, and one of those was Keenan

850
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Allen's rookie year. The most yards he's ever had thrown

851
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: to a receiver is Vince and Jackson, who had and

852
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: sixty seven. And he's just a totally different dude. Rivers

853
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: is a great quarterback, but he spreads it around. He's

854
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: not one that feeds his number one receiver or and

855
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: his offense has never been geared towards that. And like

856
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: you said, you've got Woodhead, You've got Gordon Malcolm Floyd

857
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: is still there, Stevie Johnson is there. Who is everybody

858
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: thinks he's like old and passed his prime, guys only

859
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: like twenty eight years old. He's still put on some

860
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: good tape for the For the Niners, Ladarius screen is

861
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: their gates is gonna come back. I just think they're

862
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna spread the ball in that offense, and I think

863
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the a wide receiver too. Asking price for Allen might

864
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: be a little too rich, I might agree, but but

865
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: let's just go around the horn. Well, what's the what's

866
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: the draft price? What? What comfortable? What round? Are you comfortable? Uh?

867
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Taking the count product five? Round five? It's too rich

868
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: for me. I'm saying five or six, prepending on your

869
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: league ten or twelve teams. Yeah, I would, I would

870
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: say six or seven. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. You know,

871
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I probably say six or seven as well. I don't.

872
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I see the upside there depends

873
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: how my draft falls though, too. That's a very good point.

874
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I see the upside. But

875
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: but again, UH love his skill set. Just as you mentioned,

876
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: they spread that ball around. Can I leave the room

877
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: before we mentioned this next player? We'll make it quick.

878
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: Cordaryl Patterson, the next man on the list of yeah,

879
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: bust a move again NFL dot com slash bust a

880
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: move if you want to read, uh pretty in depth.

881
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Peace on all these guys, but but we'll start with you, Marcus. Look,

882
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: he had an unbelievable Week one, a twenty pointer. I

883
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: believe eighty points total over the next fifteen weeks. He

884
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: was absolutely awful last year. Lightly regarded Charles Johnson, the

885
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: wide receiver, not the defensive ent, became the number one

886
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: wide out. Kind of I guess with Teddy Bridgewater, Um,

887
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: what do we expect from the uber athletic but not

888
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: terribly skilled wide receiver Cordaryl Patters. I expect him to

889
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: continue to be uber athletic but not terribly skilled. Um,

890
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: at least not terribly productive. You know, you look back

891
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: and we all got excited about what we saw from

892
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: him at the end of his first year, and you know,

893
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: we all, we all, we all bought in. We all

894
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna mean big things for his second season.

895
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: And I think what we overlooked one, you know, the

896
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: small sample size, but more than that is that he

897
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: was so dependent on big plays. I mean, it wasn't

898
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't the kind of guy who was going to

899
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: compile a tin catch, you know, hundred and five yard,

900
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, in a touchdown sort of game. I mean,

901
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: he was the guy who was going to get you

902
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: three catches and one of them might go for seventy

903
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. And so when that stopped happening,

904
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: his production went away. On top of that, you look

905
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: at the fact that he just was not a good

906
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: route runner obviously, never really learned the whole route tree,

907
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: and for a guy who was really fast, didn't have

908
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of explosive this like, watching him come off

909
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the line was really frustrating. Coming off the line of scrimmage,

910
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: was not getting open, was not just doing a whole

911
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: lot there. And that was part of the reason you

912
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: saw guys like Charles Johns and surpass. It's why you

913
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: saw Greg Jennings, even at his advanced NFL age, getting

914
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot more run. And so look, I think at

915
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: this point the Vikings have realized that maybe Cordarol Patterson

916
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: isn't the guy they hoped he would be. Uh. Certainly

917
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: with Adrian Peterson coming back, that's going to be a

918
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: big change in what they do offensively as well. Maybe

919
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it helps that he won't be the

920
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: center of attention anymore. But I mean, I'm not I'm

921
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: not drafting Cordarol Patterson. If i am, it is literally

922
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: as a fifth wide receiver. He's my my last pick

923
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: before I'm looking at a defense and a kicker. Does

924
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: adding a guy like Adrian Peterson? Does that help someone

925
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: like Corderol or does it hurt a guy like him?

926
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: Because you know, you figure these NFL defenses they're gonna

927
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: have to be spread out a little bit. Maybe it

928
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: gives a guy like Corderyl a little bit more roomed operation. Well,

929
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: it helps all the wide receivers in that offense, but

930
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: that's not gonna help Corderol Patterson run better routes, get open,

931
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: or be smarter Gridiron exactly. Yeah, he's not great. I

932
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: can't blame I'm saying this about the NFL wider. He's

933
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: not great catching the ball. That's the that's the problem.

934
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: That's the problem with Cordono Patterson. So again, uh, that

935
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: that would be a hindrance, and yet it generally does

936
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: not bode well for that profession, Uh, Cordello Patterson. So

937
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I think we're all in agreement here. Maybe fifteen round,

938
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: thirteenth round, fourteen something, super super late. He's a guy

939
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: you take him at the end, you hope maybe you

940
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: catch lightning in the bottle. Alright, Uh, Pierre Garson another

941
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, just an unbelievable campaign. But then

942
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: in the off season the team added de Sean Jackson

943
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: and guess what the waiter he got no tips. Last

944
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: year man thirteen hundred yards, five touchdowns and fifty yards hors.

945
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Last year he went from thirteen hundred yards to seven fifty.

946
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: There weren't any injuries that we heard about around Pierre.

947
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: He just wasn't utilized in the offense. What do we

948
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: make of Pierre Garson? Well, the targets were away down right.

949
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a hundred and thirteen catches the year,

950
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: but didn't he still lead the team in targets though

951
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: last year you might have. But they were split up

952
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: quite a bright and Deshaun Jackson became the go to

953
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: guy there. You had a lot of different quarterbacks under center.

954
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: We had r G three, her Cousins, boy had Kirk Cousins.

955
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys were under center. So it

956
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: was hard for any of the wide receivers to really

957
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: get comfortable with any of their any of their signal callers.

958
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: And honestly, I mean if you look at his numbers,

959
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: I think that one year was the ceiling. The year

960
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: every other year his numbers were pretty close, and they

961
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: were all under nine hundred yards, uh, eight hundred yards,

962
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards somewhere in that area. And he never

963
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: really was a guy who scored a lot of touchdowns either.

964
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: And remember this is somebody who played with Peyton Manning, yeah,

965
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck guys like that. Yeah, no, I completely agree.

966
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think that was kind of the anomaly there.

967
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean what we saw from him last year is

968
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: more in line what his with his career numbers have been.

969
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: And he's a guy who's been a volume play I

970
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: mean even the year he caught a hundred and thirteen passes,

971
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: had a hundred and eighty one targets, I mean, which

972
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: is crazy. That's a crazy And we have to look

973
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: at what his targets were last year too, because how

974
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: did the way down I drove back to one oh five,

975
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, and he catches sixty eight passes. I mean

976
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: he's not really an efficient sort of guy. I mean,

977
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: he's got to get a lot of targets. In order

978
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: to rack up a lot of catches, and so you

979
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: know last year seven fifty two yards, three touchdowns. I

980
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: think the touchdown number maybe comes up a couple not

981
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot um, But in terms of catches and yards,

982
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: you know you're looking around, you know, seventy catches, maybe

983
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards. I mean, I think that's just who

984
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson is. I'll all say on the matter, is

985
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trusting anybody catching passes from r G three?

986
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Well there's that that that's my hashtag analysis team. Is

987
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: he draft amazing? How quickly things turned for him his

988
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: rookie season? We all love to football and then no,

989
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about r G three, and now I

990
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: mean barely draftable, rightly draftable. I don't even think he's draftable.

991
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Life comes at you. Where are you gonna? I don't

992
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: know what I've seen him taken in a mock? Yeah,

993
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: already I have no idea where barely draftable? Um, Pierre

994
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Garson speaking of barely draftable? If those are your projections

995
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: for the guy, where he's going to top out at

996
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards, four or five touched, is he draftable? Oh?

997
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like a waiver wider guy. If

998
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of one man, he's draftable. But again,

999
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: it's a it's a late round, you know, you're looking

1000
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: around thirteen sort of thing. But why, I I guess

1001
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: my question is why, why waste the draft pick? If

1002
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: you're projecting a guy to be eight hundred and three,

1003
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: just to me, just give me somebody. I'll take anybody

1004
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: else he just I'll take anybody. Maybe you have anybody

1005
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: anybody I'll take. I'll take an injured rookie Patterson. I'll

1006
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: take court Darryl Patterson, Michael Crabtree or Pierre Garson. Neither

1007
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: I'll take neither one. You have to take one. Oh absolutely.

1008
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: My My whole draft, My whole draft philosophy is, if

1009
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: you're projecting a guy to get you know, less than

1010
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: nine hundred yards and less than four scores, you don't

1011
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: draft that guy. He's got no he's got no upside.

1012
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: At least give me somebody young who I have no

1013
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: idea what kind of production they'll have, but maybe he

1014
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: might he might do something. So you would draft a

1015
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: guy like Devin Funchius over Pierre not even a question.

1016
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: I would do that, all right. Last player on the list.

1017
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, it pains me to say Doug Martin on

1018
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: the list here didn't go to No, he did not

1019
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: go to Actually wrote last year, I wrote a very

1020
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: extensive piece on Doug Martin. Did you like him? I

1021
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: did like him because you didn't have to admit that.

1022
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: I know that being said, I like, hey, look, I

1023
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: like him. I liked him last year because I like

1024
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: the idea of him teaming up with Jeff Tedford. I

1025
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: thought Tedford was gonna feed him the rock you never

1026
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: had upen to. Tefford didn't even take the OC job

1027
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: really because of health concerns. And Doug Martin, I mean,

1028
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: he just absolutely fell off a cliff. I mean, he

1029
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: was maybe one of the worst fantasy busts uh in

1030
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: fantasy last year because guys were paying third round draft prices.

1031
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Yet do you remember Doug Martin that once the preseason

1032
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: it started to creep into the regular season, he was

1033
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: seeing all of the carriers and people were jumping back

1034
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon what I was saying, and boy, three

1035
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry later, it was tough. He

1036
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 1: was on the waiver wire in a lot of leaders,

1037
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying. He was one of the

1038
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: worst draft picks you could have made last year because

1039
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: of his draft price. I mean, guys were taking him

1040
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: late second, mid third and not getting paid off to

1041
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: say the least. Marcus Grant does Doug Martin does the

1042
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: muscle Hamster. I know he hates the nickname. It doesn't matter.

1043
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: Does the muscle Hamster? Does he get back on that week.

1044
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: I just though the last couple of years it's been

1045
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: less muscle, more hand stir Um. I'm not I'm not

1046
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: counting on it um. You know, because of what you

1047
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: guys talk about. The yards per carries have been down,

1048
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: the fact that that backfield has been such a jumbled

1049
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: mess when you look at Martin still being there, and

1050
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: you know, Bobby Rainey is still hanging around. They've still

1051
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: got Mike James, Charles Sims was getting into the mixed

1052
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: last year. You know what I remember to Marcus is

1053
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: the the year before when Martin got hurt and he

1054
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: was bad, and then all the guys came in after

1055
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: him and played well. Remember Rainy rushed for like a

1056
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: hunters yards against Seattle against Mike James's and then Rainy

1057
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: had some good games. So so Marcus, I didn't mean

1058
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: to cut you off there, but completely making making the

1059
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: point here that Martin wasn't even the best running back

1060
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: from a numbers perspective on that team. I also do

1061
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: wonder how that offense changes now that they've got Jameis

1062
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: Winston in there. You know, another year of Mike Evans

1063
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: is there. J is there. So you do wonder whether

1064
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: or not they're gonna start to put the ball up

1065
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: in the air a little bit more, which means fewer

1066
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: opportunities to run the football. Um out, Hey, look, Doug

1067
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: Martin had a good run. Yeah, he had that huge

1068
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: game against the Raiders when we all really got to

1069
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: know him, and every bell jumped on the band wagn

1070
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the high water mark for him.

1071
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's it. Huh any hope at

1072
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: all for the muscle answer. I think there is help

1073
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: this year. I think we're all we're all bearing him

1074
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: a little too much. Um, let's not forget that based

1075
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: on like we said, he was not the best running

1076
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: back on his own team. It looked like at times

1077
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: on film, however, Uh new offensive coordinator Dirt Cutter like

1078
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: fought to keep Doug Martin on the roster this he

1079
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: watched the game type like game tape like what he saw.

1080
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: Martin's down like twenty pounds from what he used to

1081
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: be interesting. He's been taking all the first team reps.

1082
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean now. The only trouble is there's a lot

1083
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: of smoke here, hight train and smoke screen thing. However,

1084
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: if this smoke clears and we actually see him taking

1085
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: first first team reps and showing more lateral agility now

1086
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: that he's down in weight, Levy on Bell's big jump

1087
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: from your one to two year one of your two

1088
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: also came when he lost a little bit of weight

1089
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: and gained some of that quickness that made him so

1090
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: dangerous last year. Um, if Martin can get that back

1091
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: right now, He's got like a round eight a DP

1092
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Football calculate around fifteen on NFL dot Com.

1093
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: Seems obscenely late. I think if you're taking him in

1094
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: that round eight to ten ranges, maybe an RB four

1095
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: could be a lot of value there. Yeah. I couldn't

1096
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: take him as anything less than that, that's for sure.

1097
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: And I did my backfield projections last week. I only

1098
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: have him getting about two thirty touches on the year.

1099
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: Charles Sims is in the mix, although that hype train

1100
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: has started slow down a little bit because um Martin

1101
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: now seems to be back in the good graces and

1102
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: is the number one guy there. But if he struggles

1103
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: in that yards per carry average doesn't increase and the

1104
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: running game flounder as well. Who's to say that love

1105
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: Smith doesn't give Charles Sims a shot that's right at

1106
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: being more of a more of an offensive centerpiece, or

1107
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: maybe not a centerpiece, but featured or prominent in offense,

1108
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: especially in the running game. And Sims is also very

1109
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: good as a pass catcher, So Martin is really an

1110
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: early down guy who could see some goal line work

1111
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: as but Sims is gonna come in take some of

1112
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: the workload there in the passing game. I you know,

1113
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I almost don't want

1114
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 1: to use the example of of c. J. Spiller because

1115
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: we kind of like him this year because he's on

1116
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: don't team. Well some people some people do, uh, but

1117
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: do not draft list. C J. Martin had that one

1118
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: great rookie year and then everyone jumped on the bandwagon,

1119
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: including myself, and then in years two or three he

1120
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: was bad. So I think that's kind of what he is, Marcus,

1121
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: So give me a draft what he is again, He's

1122
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: an RB four for me. He's someone that you can

1123
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: probably take somewhere between rounds eight and round ten. Um,

1124
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why he's going off the board and

1125
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: round fifteen on NFL dot Com because a featured back,

1126
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: at least close to a featured back is not gonna

1127
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: last past the ten point in any draft. I think.

1128
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: I think the reason he's falling is just because there

1129
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: is so much uncertainty because last year we saw so

1130
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: many guys run through that backfield, and I think people

1131
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: are just, you know, instead of trying to figure out

1132
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: which one it is and void all of them. If

1133
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: you if you also look back at Dirk Cutter when

1134
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: he was the O C with the Jaguars. I mean

1135
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: they had a run percentage of forty eight point eight

1136
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: or better three different years. But he had Morris Jones

1137
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: drewin for a Taylor. There difference if you're going to

1138
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: have that with Charles Sims and Martin Um actually did

1139
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: we what's the verdict here? What do you think does

1140
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: he come back to? Is is this a guy that

1141
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: you can get good value for if you're getting him

1142
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: in the ninth round. Let's say, is that good value

1143
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: for Doug Martin. I'm I'm looking more round ten ten

1144
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: e Levin for him, But yeah, I think if if

1145
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: you were expecting him to be your number four guy,

1146
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: if he's your bye week fill in, if the matchup

1147
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: is right, sure give him a shot. Um, it's just

1148
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: obviously keep an eye on that backfield because who knows

1149
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be like by the time you get

1150
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: to a situation where you want to use him in

1151
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: your starting lineup. All right, bust a move again. You

1152
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: could find Marcus series NFL dot com slash Bust to

1153
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,759
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