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Speaker 2: A coming, some really good stuff in the chat here

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Speaker 2: I'm going to hit some of that. I'm also going

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Speaker 2: to have you with us, let's get into it. We're

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Speaker 2: going to start the show tonight with one of your

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Speaker 2: You guys love to talk about s bias. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to leave the show tonight. SEC bias. Now, let

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Speaker 2: me quickly give you a backstory. The other day on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: I had a little back and forth. We were, I

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Speaker 2: think initially talking about expanding the college football playoff, and

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Speaker 2: you know how against that I am for a myriad

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Speaker 2: of different reasons if you want them listed, some of.

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Speaker 1: Which at least go back and watch the last live show.

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Speaker 1: So here's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Someone criticized the Southeastern Conference for not stepping up to

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Speaker 2: I've always found much irony in this claim because as

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Speaker 2: everyone criticizes SEC out of conference scheduling, they never acknowledge

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Speaker 2: who it was, Lamar or some FCS team from this

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Speaker 1: This is the hill you want to die on. Texas

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Speaker 1: A and M. Last year. Do you guys remember this?

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Speaker 2: They of course played Alabama in the regular season. They

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Speaker 2: It's called a division game. They had to play LSU

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Speaker 2: that wasn't bad enough, they went ahead and schedule Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Why would I waste time arguing with that? So here's

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Speaker 2: What happened ultimately, As is often the case is claims

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Speaker 2: to start off by telling you very plainly, so there's

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Speaker 2: no misunderstanding. I have got strong SEC bias, very strong

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Speaker 2: But yet, you rarely hear me talk Kentucky football on

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Speaker 1: So which SEC teams are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: I've talked to Ohio State, for example, a lot more

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Speaker 2: is the best conference in America. Therefore, I do have

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Speaker 2: a strong bias. Aside from where I grew up, I

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Speaker 2: So let's move on, because that's not really what you

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Speaker 2: Does someone have bias for or against your team, your

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Speaker 2: SEC bias though, particularly in the media and in a

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Speaker 1: So let's say it out loud, and.

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Speaker 2: my question. For those of you who truly believe that

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Speaker 2: Sounds to me based on how many people mention it,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people throw around media by bias, and

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Speaker 1: The media influence even if there is extreme.

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Speaker 1: Who is it?

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Speaker 2: Who's really pulling the lever? Is it right out in

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Speaker 2: again I ask, for all the SEC bias, why does

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Speaker 1: Could I take you back?

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Speaker 2: I guess it's been fifteen to twenty years now, the

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Speaker 2: two thousands. It was USC And I don't mean the

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Speaker 2: people where I was from, in Columbus, Georgia, people in Tuscumbia, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: You know what they said, There is media.

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Speaker 2: Bias against us down here, in favor of the lights

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Speaker 1: And you know what, they were right. We were right.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Akron's not, Cincinnati's not, but neither is Texas, neither

442
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Speaker 2: is Alabama, neither is usc none of them are. So

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Speaker 2: it's gonna happen at some point. I told you a

444
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Speaker 2: week and a half ago. I think it was on

445
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Speaker 2: the Sunday Show. I had talked to some administrators that

446
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Speaker 2: very afternoon and they said, short of you know, a

447
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: deep impact or armageddon type scenario wherein an asteroid just

448
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: completely takes us out. You know, if status quo largely

449
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Speaker 2: remains here and COVID nineteen is what we're dealing with,

450
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Speaker 2: So the enemy's right there.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make a season happen.

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Speaker 2: Just don't know how it's gonna happen, don't know when

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Speaker 2: it's going to start, if it's going to be in

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Speaker 2: front of fans, but they've got to make it happen.

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Speaker 2: So now here's what the most difficult challenge is. Synchronicity

456
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Speaker 2: is going to be the first hurdle that everyone has

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Speaker 2: to clear. Synchronicity meaning this college football is not just

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Speaker 2: this monolithic organization in which everyone moves at the same

459
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Speaker 2: pace and everyone operates according to the same drum beat.

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Speaker 2: You've got conferences, You've got even a wide geographic region

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Speaker 2: within a conference. Think about what the difference is right

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Speaker 2: now in being in West Virginia versus being in the

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Speaker 2: middle of Oklahoma. Well, those states house teams from the

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Speaker 2: same conference.

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Speaker 1: That being the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Synchronicity and by that, I mean this is the biggest hurdle.

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Speaker 2: What is right now a reality and what could four

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Speaker 2: months from now be a reality? In the state of Washington,

469
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Speaker 2: may be radically different than what's happening in the state

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Speaker 2: of Indiana, which also could mean Indiana's governor, doctors in

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Speaker 2: the state, and every one of a dignified role that

472
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Speaker 2: has a say in this could end up giving Indiana

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Speaker 2: the check mark.

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Speaker 1: You're good to go.

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Speaker 2: It could be two months later for a state like Washington, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I'm just picking names out of a hat. I'm not

477
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Speaker 2: educated as to who could get the green light first.

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Speaker 2: But what happens there, Let's say the entire just for

479
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Speaker 2: the sake of argument, let's say the entire Big ten

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Speaker 2: foot print was given the green light. You guys are

481
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Speaker 2: good to go. Everything's cleared, We feel safe. You guys

482
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Speaker 2: can open camp July first. And there are still five

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Speaker 2: out of twelve teams in the PAC twelve whose states

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Speaker 2: and whose universities may be in local dignitaries have not

485
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Speaker 2: given them the green light. How do we work that?

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Speaker 2: How does that operate? So you got to have synchronicity.

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing, and that's a really, really big

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Speaker 2: hurdle that has to be overcome. Secondly, I have heard

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Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about this empty stadium issue

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Speaker 2: and what it would be like if we had to

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Speaker 2: play games in an empty stadium. I heard lang Kiffen

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Speaker 2: this last week talking about how he just doesn't think

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Speaker 2: it would happen. I've heard other head coaches, I've heard

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Speaker 2: some folks in the media. I have spoken about this

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Speaker 2: on this show, and I have told you, and I'll

496
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Speaker 2: tell you again, I don't think that it's going to

497
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Speaker 2: come to that. Think a lot's going to change over

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Speaker 2: the next few months. And I'm going to end with that.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm going to tell you next sort of

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Speaker 2: sounds hypocritical. Ignore everything folks in the media say about

501
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Speaker 2: empty stadiums, Ignore what coaches say, ignore what players say.

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Speaker 2: Pay attention only to what administrators say. They are the

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Speaker 2: ultimate decision makers, even some of them who tell.

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Speaker 1: You doctors are going to make that decision.

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Speaker 2: If a doctor came up to a bunch of university

506
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Speaker 2: presidents and said let's hold off until twenty twenty five,

507
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Speaker 2: that laugh them out of the building. So, ultimately, regardless

508
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Speaker 2: of what people say, within reason, ads and university presidents

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Speaker 2: are going to make the call here. They understand how

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Speaker 2: to look at college football as a television product. And

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Speaker 2: so for the sake of this conversation, don't think about

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Speaker 2: college football as you would normally think about it. The

513
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Speaker 2: way you have to think about it in times like

514
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Speaker 2: these is like a TV show. And if they can

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Speaker 2: get the studio open like we've done right now, there's

516
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Speaker 2: no one else in this entire building. Normally there will

517
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Speaker 2: be one thousand people in here right now, but it's

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Speaker 2: me and Colin. But we were able to get in

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Speaker 2: the studio thanks to our overlords at CBS Sports granting

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Speaker 2: us essential personnel access, so we're able to put on

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Speaker 2: a show.

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Speaker 1: Therefore, we're doing a show.

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Speaker 2: If they can get stadiums open, if they can get

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Speaker 2: players physically on campus, if they can get the necessary

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Speaker 2: boxes checked, if they can travel and figure that stuff out,

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a season because contrary to some

527
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Speaker 2: very very popular people's tweets yesterday, it is not in

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Speaker 2: stadium at the gate revenue that matters nearly as much

529
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Speaker 2: as TV contracts matter here, and the TV contracts are

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Speaker 2: fulfilled as long as you give the TV a product

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Speaker 2: to put on, So that's first and foremost in the

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Speaker 2: minds of administrators and athletic directors and presidents.

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Speaker 1: I don't care that it's going to be weird. Well,

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Speaker 1: I do care.

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Speaker 2: But it's not gonna matter if it comes to this,

536
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Speaker 2: whether it's gonna be weird, or it's going to change

537
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Speaker 2: the dynamic, or it's gonna take away the passion and

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Speaker 2: the pageantry. Everyone knows that this is not a world

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Speaker 2: in which you get a great choice.

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Speaker 1: And a terrible choice.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you get a terrible choice and a not so

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Speaker 2: good choice.

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Speaker 1: And that may be what we deal with in the fall.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I still believe time is our best friend here. Still

546
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Speaker 2: believe a lot is going to change. Think about where

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Speaker 2: we are right this second. We are April sixteenth, right now,

548
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Speaker 2: April seventeenth, eighteen nineteenth. So this Saturday was going to

549
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Speaker 2: be the big spring football Saturday. A lot of the

550
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Speaker 2: big teams were. I know Alabama was this Saturday, Georgia

551
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Speaker 2: was this Saturday.

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Speaker 1: A ton of teams.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have their spring game this Saturday. Think about

554
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Speaker 2: when it's a regular season, it's a regular year. Think

555
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: about coming out of that spring game, that g DA game,

556
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Speaker 2: that eight day game, and then think about how long

557
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: it seems there is until the season gets here. Okay,

558
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Speaker 2: nothing's changed time, although relative is still a constant. We

559
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: still really do have that long until the season. We

560
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Speaker 2: have got from this Saturday, we would have like ninety

561
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Speaker 2: days until media days, that's in early July. We would

562
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Speaker 2: have and still do have well over one hundred and

563
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Speaker 2: ten one hundred and twenty twenty five ish days until

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Speaker 2: camps would open.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how much can change?

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Speaker 2: Do you know how much those data really the data

567
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Speaker 2: that is ingested by models and produce those models. Do

568
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Speaker 2: you know how much that can change? Do you know

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Speaker 2: how much narrative can change? Perception can change? A lot

570
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Speaker 2: can change. Think about where we were three weeks ago

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Speaker 2: versus today.

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Speaker 1: Suffice to say, a lot's changed.

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Speaker 2: Right, You're still sitting at home, so that hasn't changed,

574
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Speaker 2: but maybe some other things have changed.

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Speaker 1: That's going to continue to happen.

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Speaker 2: So time is on our side, whereas normally you want

577
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Speaker 2: to burn it at both ends in order to get

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Speaker 2: to the season. Right now, I don't think anyone's in

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Speaker 2: a particular hurry. We need as much time as possible

580
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Speaker 2: between us and the season to hopefully let this play out.

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Speaker 2: But narrative is going to shift. Facts are going to

582
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Speaker 2: continue to shift that narrative. Hopefully more facts come to

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Speaker 2: light than what is currently coming to light, and I

584
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Speaker 2: think that ultimately.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling will be okay. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely have a feeling we'll have a regular season,

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Speaker 2: though a twenty twenty season, even.

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Speaker 1: If it spills over into twenty twenty one. The podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and get this out of the way.

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Speaker 1: So the podcast. Here's how it works.

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Speaker 2: I thought that this was pretty self explanatory, but that's

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Speaker 2: my fault. I did a terrible job explaining this. Here's

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Speaker 2: how the podcast works. Some of you don't like watching

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Speaker 2: So what we do for you is we take the

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Speaker 2: audio from the show and we release it as a podcast,

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Speaker 2: can go anywhere you get your podcast and search late

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Speaker 2: Kick with Josh Paipe. So the first thing we ask

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Speaker 2: you to do, and if you don't want to search,

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Speaker 2: But here's the second thing that I want to ask you,

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Speaker 2: since we've got some free time, why not give some

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Speaker 2: You can hit me up on Twitter at Late Kick Josh.

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Speaker 2: I would ask that you follow me there.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: We do a lot of extra during the week there.

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Speaker 2: But you see my email address there. You got the

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Speaker 1: Let me know. If enough of you want it, we'll

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Speaker 2: I'll just go jog myself and listen to someone else,

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Speaker 2: cause it would be kind of weird to listen to yourself.

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Speaker 2: But if you do want it, let me know. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's move on NFL drafts coming up. We don't fancy

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Speaker 2: ourselves an NFL show, never have, never will, and that's

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Speaker 2: not changing.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to.

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Speaker 2: Address a couple of very high profile guys that I

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Speaker 2: a tongue of Iloa and Joe Burrow, as I said,

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Speaker 2: to lead the show, this is the time of year where, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: squeaky wheels get a lot more grease. It does not

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Speaker 2: pay again, unfortunately, this time of year to look at

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Speaker 2: elite prospects and just say that's an elite prospect, it

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Speaker 2: ends up paying a lot more if you just throw

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Speaker 1: And see if it sticks to the wall.

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Speaker 2: And even if it doesn't, well, you generated fifteen thousand clicks,

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Speaker 2: so that's all well and good.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Clickbait used to be all the rage, and then platforms

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Speaker 2: like for example, YouTube, if you're watching on YouTube, platforms

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Speaker 2: our live shows, this is pretty insane stat our live

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Speaker 2: versions of Late Kick. Do you know how I haven't

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Speaker 2: how many minutes of viewer watches our live show? You

661
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Speaker 2: guys watch about twenty one minutes on average. I can't

662
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: even begin to tell you how insane that number is

663
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: and how much I appreciate that. But that basically means

664
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Speaker 2: either you're coming in and clicking in and clicking out,

665
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: or you're just watching most of the show. We get

666
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: rewarded for that because we're not putting out clickbait. Well

667
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: this time of year, in the NFL draft world, clickbait

668
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: still works, unfortunately, and so I've seen some of it

669
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: surrounding Joe Burrow and surrounding to a tongue of Iloa lately.

670
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: Let's just address the concerns, and I use the term

671
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 2: concern very loosely because I don't truly believe these are

672
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: concern concerns. Let me give you my take on both

673
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: these guys. I've seen both of these guys I tried

674
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Speaker 2: to count earlier today.

675
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

676
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: I know that I've seen both of them from the

677
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: sideline in person at least half a dozen times. It

678
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: may be like ten times for each of them. I

679
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: think they are both franchise quarterbacks. I think they are

680
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: both ten to fifteen year Hall of Fame caliber talents.

681
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: I understand how much goes into that, and I understand

682
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: how much that's out of their control goes into that.

683
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking about.

684
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: Their physical and mental ability to translate to the next level.

685
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: I've seen them both a lot. I've been around them

686
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: on field off field. They check every box. They are

687
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: tailor made different personalities, but both of them Taylor made

688
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: to lead an NFL franchise.

689
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: And yet here we go. So we've got some criticism.

690
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the criticism here again, use the term

691
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: very loosely, the criticism that was being thrown around as

692
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: of last week and early this week about Joe Burrow.

693
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: As of course, stop me where you've heard this before,

694
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: and stop me if you can explain why this is

695
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: a criticism. Well, there's a product of being in a

696
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: really good offense and being surrounded by elite wide receiver talent.

697
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: Two of those things are true.

698
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: He was in a great offense and he did have

699
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: great wide receiver talent. I kind of chuckle every time

700
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: someone says, well, he played with a lot of NFL

701
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: wide receivers at LSU. You know where else he's gonna

702
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: play with NFL wide receivers. You know where else he's

703
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: gonna benefit from high level NFL schemes, the league he's

704
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: about to be drafted into. That's sort of why they

705
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: call it NFL talent. That's the league he's about to

706
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: go play in. So I don't know that that's a

707
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: knock at all. And I don't know where we started.

708
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: And I'm going to say they, I don't know where

709
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: they the people who claim this, I don't know where

710
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: this idea started that if you produce and you take

711
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: advantage of the elite weapons you have around you, how

712
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: that won't translate to the next level. The fact of

713
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: the matter is, if Joe Burrow is put in a

714
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: situation that's built for him to win and tailored for

715
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: him to win, He's going to win. I don't care

716
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: what level of football we're talking about, because that's the

717
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: kind of guy he is. He is a quarterback who

718
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: lit it up when he was a post to light

719
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: it up. But I want to ask you this, what

720
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: was his biggest strength this past year you watched you

721
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: probably watched most big LSU games. Was it three step drop,

722
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: get the ball out of his hand within two seconds

723
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: every time before he could get hit. I don't necessarily

724
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: remember that. Being Joe Burrow, he was good at that.

725
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: His biggest strength was after stuff broke down. Ask Kirby

726
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: Smart and Georgia because they got to him some what

727
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: was his biggest strength. We're looking at that game right here.

728
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: There were plays that he made last over ten seconds.

729
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: And the reason is because.

730
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: Of this stuff.

731
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: You see this right here if you're watching the YouTube version.

732
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff right there, that's not a play design, guys,

733
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: and there was no NFL receiver in the backfield allowing

734
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: him to do all that. I think his skill set

735
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: translates very well to the next level, and I think

736
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: if he's put in a situation to succeed, he will succeed,

737
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: and he will be a guy who could be a

738
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Speaker 2: ten to fifteen year again, like I said, future Hall

739
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: of Fame caliber talent.

740
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Speaker 1: Now here's what happens. A lot of times.

741
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Speaker 2: The better you are, the higher you go in the draft,

742
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: and chances are you could go to a very poor organization,

743
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: and even the best quarterbacks in the world are not enough.

744
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: They're not skilled enough. The league's two good. You're not

745
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: skilled enough to overcome a terrible front office. You're not

746
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: skilled enough to overcome terrible drafts around you. So again,

747
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: there's a lot outside of your control that determines what

748
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: your career is going to look like. What if Tom

749
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: Brady were drafted by Oakland instead of Tampa Bay.

750
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: We can never know. I think I have a pretty

751
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: good idea of what would and wouldn't have happened. How

752
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: about TUA.

753
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: What's the concern here, Well, there's one valid concern. I

754
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with people pointing out the injury concern.

755
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: I think that's first and foremost. I don't know that

756
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: necessarily as many people point out the size anymore because

757
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: of what guys like Russell Wilson have done. So I

758
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: don't think people point out the size as much, although

759
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: maybe you do, but I think more so it's the

760
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: injury concern. Now that's a valid concern. Let me give

761
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: you a little insight. I talked to someone from Alabama

762
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: the what weit Thursday? Yes, it was this week. I

763
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: talked to someone from Alabama. Now here's what they believe.

764
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: Number One, they believe he's as good to go you

765
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: could be right now, but that doesn't matter if he

766
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: gets injured two years from now.

767
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: So is he injury prone or not? That's the question.

768
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: And is he is he fragile, frail or is he

769
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: a guy who can be built to withstand a full

770
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: NFL season. Here's what some people at Alabama think. Some

771
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: people at Alabama this goes back to Scott Cochrane leaving there.

772
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: There were for the last few years there were some

773
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: pretty strong butting of heads type situations going on with

774
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: the strength and conditioning approach at Alabama, what they had

775
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: versus what up to an including the head man, thought

776
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: they needed to have moving forward there, and they were

777
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: losing a lot of guys. They had a lot of

778
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: injuries there. Tonguovailoa was one of them who was injury prone.

779
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: Now here's what they think at Alabama. I have no

780
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: clue if there's validity to this. I'm not qualified to know.

781
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm qualified to tell you what people at Alabama have

782
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: told me, and they believe that he was a victim

783
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: of some of the same things that other guys there

784
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: were victims of They believed there were flaws and their

785
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: strength and conditioning approach. That's what a lot of them

786
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: believe there. They also believe they've rectified that with the

787
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: duo that they just hired from Indiana.

788
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: I have no way to know this. You have no

789
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: way to know this.

790
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there because I like to

791
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: give you as much as we can on the air.

792
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, though.

793
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: The other thing is next to that, what is the

794
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: concern I heard. I'm not going to mention the names.

795
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't dignify this stuff. I heard a notable draft analyst,

796
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: shall we say, go on air the other day on

797
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: national radio or television, whatever the case was, and said

798
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: Tongovailoa wasn't one of his top five quarterbacks in this draft.

799
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: Now you explain that to me again, this is what

800
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: passes for national analysis. I think a lot of you

801
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: choose this product because of such foolishness, and I appreciate it.

802
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: But here's what didn't happen. What didn't happen is after

803
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: that absurd statement was made, what didn't happen, which should

804
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: have happened. To follow is a list of the five

805
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks said analyst had ahead of Tongue of Ailoa. It's

806
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: because it's nonsense, it's not thought through, and it gets

807
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: rewarded with a national platform all the while. If said

808
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: analyst was actually asked to list his five quarterbacks in

809
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: front of him, five is a number he gave out.

810
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: No one asked him give me the five quarterbacks ahead

811
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: of to a Tongue of Iiloa, he would have listed

812
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: a couple of them, and then he would have tied

813
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: himself into an intellectual pretzel trying to get three more

814
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: out of his mouth. But again, that's the season we're

815
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: in for the NFL Draft. So again, to make this

816
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: plain and clear, I believe Joe Burrow and to a

817
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: Tongue of Ailoa are both generational talents. A lot of

818
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: people are going to play the game of who would

819
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: you take? And my answer to this, anytime I got

820
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: two elite talents, whether they be coaches, players, whatever, my

821
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: answer is always, and it is with this situation as well,

822
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: I'll just take the one you don't want.

823
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: You get first pick. I'll take the one that's.

824
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: Left over herschel versus both, who's better you get your

825
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: first pick I'll be more than happy to settle with

826
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: who's leftover. Joe Burrow to a tongue Bailoa, same deal.

827
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: I'll give you first pick. I'll be happy to take

828
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: whatever's left over.

829
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: I just know this.

830
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: What you don't want to be in ten years is

831
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: the GM who passed on either one of these dudes

832
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: because you bought into.

833
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: This sort of thing.

834
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: This sort of thing gets you a ticket in section

835
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 2: three thirty three. You're running NFL franchises.

836
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Got to be better than that. I think they will

837
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: be better than that.

838
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: I think you'll hear these guys' names called pretty early

839
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: in the first round.

840
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: Come NFL Draft night, let's move on.

841
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: We've got Actually, I wouldn't call it breaking news because

842
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: this happened a little while.

843
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Ago, But to let me see this, I thought I

844
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: saw something else in the.

845
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: Chat so earlier today, news out of Los Angeles, Southern

846
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: cal quarterback JT. Daniels enters his name into the transfer portal,

847
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: and it got the attention of a lot of people,

848
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: most notably anyone who needs or thinks they need a

849
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: quarterback out there. So I had a team that came

850
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: right to the forefront. I told Colin when I walked in,

851
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: he happens to be a supporter of said team, and

852
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: he immediate shook his head.

853
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

854
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, yes, definitively yes. So I'm gonna tell you

855
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: who it is, but I'm gonna read you because I

856
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: went to twenty four seven Sports dot Com. I wanted

857
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: to see what our guys had put up on this.

858
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: I saw in some of the some of the back

859
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: room chats that we are privy to. I saw us

860
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: talking about this earlier today. A number of our guys

861
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: had weighed in what they were hearing. So there is

862
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: a pretty informed piece right now if you want to.

863
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: As of an howur go was on the front page

864
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: of twenty four seven Sports dot Com, but our Greg

865
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Biggins and Chris Hummer they just kind of put together

866
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Speaker 2: I think it's seven one, two, three, four, Yes, so

867
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: seven potential destinations for JT.

868
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Daniels. Now the first one. Let's go ahead and get

869
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: this one out of the way.

870
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: USC would probably still be the betting favorite here.

871
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: There is some thinking out.

872
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: There that maybe he puts his name in the transfer

873
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: portal to explore all options. Clay Helton, head coach at US,

874
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: He put out a statement today saying we're working hand

875
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: in hand with him. We're gonna help him explore all options.

876
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: We'll see what's best for him. But I mean, if

877
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: you're if you're a betting man or woman, there's a

878
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: pretty darn good chance he just up right back at

879
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: Southern California. And what the thinking here is is he's

880
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: talented enough if he's healthy, and there are differing reports

881
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: as to whether he's healthy right now. But if he

882
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: wins the starting job out there, he's a guy who

883
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: has the raw talent to be talking NFL draft this

884
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: time next year, but he still has two years to play.

885
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: What he could do is stay at Southern cal graduate

886
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: and then surely be eligible to go anywhere after the

887
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: season or maybe after he graduates. Now, we also have

888
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: another piece of NCAA legislation, it's winding its way through

889
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: NCAA court, if you will, which is eventually going to

890
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: come to a vote, and it's going to be in

891
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: the near future. And that is whether you're going to

892
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: be able to transfer one time without penalty. Most people

893
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: I've taken the temperature in the industry eighty to twenty

894
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: think it will pass.

895
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Does that apply to this year or not? Does it

896
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: start in twenty twenty one. No one knows.

897
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: But he may be able to move around, or he

898
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: may have to wait a year to graduate and then

899
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: move wherever he wants to. But Southern cal could be

900
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: the ultimate death nation. This could all be for Not

901
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Washington is in this. I don't have much to add

902
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: with Washington or Old miss These are just two names

903
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: in the piece by Craig Biggins and Chris Hummer that

904
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: we're mentioned. Florida State signed two quarterbacks this last cycle.

905
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: First thing that came to my mind was terrible offensive line.

906
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's necessarily an ideal situation. You

907
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: also can't know this. You can't know if Mike Norvela

908
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: and his staff are interested in taking JT.

909
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: Daniel.

910
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll eventually hear some rumblings and figure that

911
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: out in the near future, but there's no way to

912
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: really know this. We're just throwing around some names here.

913
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: What about Michigan. You got Dylan McCaffrey, You got Joe Milton. There,

914
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: Shay Patterson has moved on. Could that be a destination.

915
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people with that name trending

916
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: in their minds earlier today. Lsu Now this one's interesting.

917
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: There's some ties here from ed Orgeron's time on the

918
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: West Coast. I think he personally recruited JT.

919
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Daniel.

920
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: And you may say to yourself, you got Miles Brennan already, Well,

921
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: that's true, no program worth it, Salt's gonna turned down

922
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: what they believe to be a quarterback that they're capable.

923
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: Of winning with.

924
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: You want as many of those on your roster as possible.

925
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: We just got done talking about Tuatongu of Ailoa. Need

926
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: I remind you how he saw his first meaningful action

927
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: with Alabama. You can never have too many of those guys.

928
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: And if JT. Daniel were to.

929
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Look at LSU and say, you got Miles Brennan there already,

930
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: you know what, I still think I can compete there. Well,

931
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: ed Horzeron's not going to turn him down if they

932
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: like him. I mean, he already recruited him once, so

933
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: certainly they thought enough of him to recruit him.

934
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't see a reason why their opinion would have

935
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: changed all that much.

936
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: But here's the one that popped in my mind immediately,

937
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: and that is the University of Tennessee Jeremy Prudy. They

938
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: sit there right now with Jared Garantano. Is that a

939
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: guy that they're going to compete in the SEC Eastern

940
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: Division with. My short opinion is no. Is Brian Maher

941
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: that guy. My short opinion would be no. Harrison Bailey.

942
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: I believe the moment he stepped on campus was their

943
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: most talented option. But he is still a true freshman

944
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: who does not have the benefit of spring, who does

945
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: not have the benefit of a normal summer workout program.

946
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: No one knows what we have have with him, but

947
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires on JT. Daniels

948
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: now to this point again, this just happened a little

949
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: while ago. I don't really know any more than you

950
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: do on this. I saw some people who think, maybe

951
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: it's this team, maybe it's that team.

952
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: Not enough for me to run with here.

953
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: Just my personal thought here immediately was Tennessee, let's see

954
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: how this pans out. Could be something to it, could

955
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: be nothing to it. I asked you earlier in the

956
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: evening if you had any questions, We're going to wrap

957
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: the show with him, so let's run through this now.

958
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: The other day I kind of ended up kicking a

959
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: hornet's nest.

960
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: We did what I thought was a nice, innocent, really light,

961
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: feel good segment a couple of weeks ago about what

962
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: the five best places I've covered a game at in

963
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: the Southeastern Conference what those.

964
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Five best places were?

965
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: And I thought I specified cover a game, not sit

966
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: in the stands, cover a game, So a lot more

967
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: goes into it than just how loud the stadium is.

968
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: And I didn't put Auburn in the top five.

969
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: I didn't put Florida in the top five, and a

970
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of people have been out of shape about that.

971
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: So Luke Wildman comes to my rescue here, and one

972
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: of the first questions in the chat tonight was top

973
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: five SEC stadiums by game day atmosphere. All right, Now,

974
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: that's a different question. It does not take into account

975
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: what my experience covering it is. Let's just talk game

976
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: day atmosphere. I've been to all the big games. I've

977
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: been to all the big stadiums when they're having big games.

978
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: There is nothing when Alabama plays LSU in baton Rouge

979
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: night atmosphere. There's nothing like that in college football, at

980
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: least that I've experienced. I've not been to a game

981
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: at Penn State, So that's the only thing. When I

982
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: listen and talk to other people in the industry who

983
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 2: have covered the sport at a national level, Penn State's

984
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the one that always is on the tip of everyone's tongue.

985
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: I have not been able to experience that. We're talking

986
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: sec right now. LSU's number one. Alabama is number two.

987
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: Alabama is a really, really big feel. Everything about Alabama

988
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: feels big. It is rich in tradition. I've been to

989
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: so so many games there that it becomes second nature

990
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: for me to experience that. But it's a special, special place.

991
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: And the thing about Bama is, for a while now,

992
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: there's been this complacency that's set in, not amongst the team,

993
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: but amongst the fan base.

994
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: You guys know this to be true.

995
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: A lot of you Alabama fans know this to be true,

996
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: and so a lot of them. When you're amongst yourselves,

997
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: you'll complain man our stadium atmosphere, you know, when like

998
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: Mississippi State comes in here, we're up thirty one to three.

999
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: It's just it's not very electric. They know when to

1000
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: pick and choose their moments. Though I was on the

1001
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: field for the LSU game this past year, I took

1002
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: someone with me who had not experienced that game before,

1003
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: who had not covered that game before, and he was

1004
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: on the field alongside me, and all I got to

1005
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: do is ask him about it. But I experienced it

1006
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: as well. That's an incredible atmosphere when they got a

1007
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: big game there, when they truly feel threatened, which is

1008
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: not very often, but when they do feel threatened and

1009
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: they're in sort of wounded animal mode a little bit,

1010
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: that's an incredible place to be. My number three is

1011
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Texas A and M. I talked about this last week.

1012
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: I think A and M's off the radar. They are

1013
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: not a perennially elite playoff contending program yet, and yet

1014
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: when I was there this past year, already everything about that.

1015
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: Place is awesome.

1016
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: The stadium's awesome, everything about it's modernized. But from a

1017
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: game day atmosphere perspective, it's very unique. Now it's a

1018
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: unique culture and tradition unto anything else in the Southeastern Conference,

1019
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: in a conference that prides itself on unique culture and tradition,

1020
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Texas A and M IF and when Jimbo Fisher turns

1021
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: them into an actual playoff contending team, this place will,

1022
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: to me finally get its rightful claim as one of

1023
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 2: the very best venues in America.

1024
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: It's matt Look at that place.

1025
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: It's massive, there's a lot of uniqueness to it, as

1026
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: I said, but it's insanely loud. It's one of the

1027
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: places where you can feel the groundshake actually when you're

1028
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: standing on the natural surface. Neeland Stadium is another one

1029
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: like that. You feel the ground shake. Calls their stuff

1030
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: under the ground. Therefore it's sort of hollow what you're say,

1031
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: standing on and you can feel the groundshake. There really

1032
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: really incredible place. My number four is Auburn. I've seen

1033
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: so many big games at Auburn. I've seen them upset Georgia,

1034
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: I've seen them upset Alabama. That's a place where, at

1035
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: its peaks you would probably argue is as charged as

1036
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: any place in America. I've also felt like the energy

1037
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: that Bruce Pearl has brought there from a basketball standpoint

1038
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: has sort of meshed like he's done something in the

1039
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: sec A lot of folks try to do, but very

1040
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: few have perfected the art of that is dovetailing the

1041
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: passion of football into the basketball arena. Bruce Pearl's been

1042
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: able to do that, but to be able to dovetail passion,

1043
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: you first have to have it. And Jordan Hare Stadium

1044
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: really really loud. It aggravates the you know what out

1045
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: of Alabama and Georgia, and I know exactly what they're

1046
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 2: talking about.

1047
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I've been there.

1048
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: When Auburn will play games, you'll watch them on film,

1049
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: and they'll play games that look so average, and they

1050
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: look so lethargic, and they'll mess around with like Jacksonville

1051
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: State or somebody. And yet when Georgia rolls in there,

1052
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: they play with their hair on fire, and the entire

1053
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: atmosphere everyone in their eighty seven thousand change they react accordingly.

1054
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: And when Alabama comes in there, they take it up

1055
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: to even another level.

1056
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: And you think to yourself.

1057
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: You know almost, why do you guys have to take

1058
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: this stuff so seriously and make this place so hostile.

1059
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: But that's their job and they do it very well.

1060
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: Number five was just there this past year for the

1061
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: Auburn game, and that is Florida.

1062
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: The swamp is pretty insane too. Now.

1063
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: The reason I didn't put this in the top five

1064
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: of places to cover a game, it's because I've only

1065
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: covered a visiting team there and the visiting media accommodations

1066
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium are abhorrent.

1067
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: They are terrible. I've been in broom.

1068
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: Closet's bigger than what they give you there, and it's

1069
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: also about ninety two degrees with very little air circulation.

1070
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: Again though, that's part of home field advantage on the

1071
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: road in college football, so I don't bemoan it even

1072
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: as I call it abhorrent. But from a game day

1073
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: atmosphere standpoint, really really good play. So I'd go from

1074
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: five to one Florida Auburn A and m Bama LSU.

1075
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Neeland's not on this list.

1076
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: As soon as Tennessee gets good and I finally get

1077
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: to cover games at Tennessee when they're relevant, I think

1078
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: they've got to take the place of someone in this

1079
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: top five, because even when I've been up there and

1080
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: they haven't been good, it's still been a pretty good atmosphere.

1081
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: There just hasn't been a lot to be excited about

1082
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: there for quite a while. James Cook asks Mike Leach,

1083
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: lane Kiffin better higher?

1084
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: The answer here to me is Lane Kiffin. I talked

1085
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: to someone on the.

1086
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: NFL side of things about this actually last week, and

1087
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: the thought that they had was kind of the thought

1088
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: that I've had. First part it was kind of a

1089
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: two part of the first part is three part are

1090
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: actually first part is is Mike Leach going to be

1091
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Speaker 2: able to recruit at a good enough level down here?

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Speaker 2: His scheme is meant to overcome some recruiting deficiencies. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you don't get away with that twelve weeks of the

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Speaker 2: year down here. That's question one. I don't have answers

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Speaker 2: to any of the question, by the way, that's question one.

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Speaker 2: Question number two was does his offense translate down here?

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Speaker 2: It worked in Lubbock, Texas. It worked in Pullman, Washington.

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Speaker 2: The defensive back talent that you consistently face on a

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Speaker 2: weekend week got conference play basis in the SEC is

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Speaker 2: something that a lot of people don't necessarily think that

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Speaker 2: his offense is going.

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Speaker 1: To be able to overcome.

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Speaker 2: The third part of that three part mystery around Mike

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00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 2: Leach is himself. He's already gotten himself in a little

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00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: bit of hot water over some stuff he's tweeted. But

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Speaker 2: here is what this person and myself hick up, sorry

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Speaker 2: about that. This is what I'm ready to see. Mike

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00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: Leach has a tendency of throwing his players under the bus,

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Speaker 2: to the national media, well to the regional media that

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Speaker 2: covers his team. And while Mississippi State is not exactly

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00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: exactly Notre Dame, there's a much brighter spotlight on him

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Speaker 2: now than has ever been on him thus far in

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00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: his head coaching career. And if they lose a game

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Speaker 2: or two and he starts throwing players under the US,

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Speaker 2: combined with some of the friction already that exists because

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00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: of some statements he's made on Twitter, whether you had

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00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: a problem with him or not, his players some of

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Speaker 2: them did. I don't know how long that act lasts there.

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Speaker 2: He could prove me wrong at every term. But I

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Speaker 2: like Lane Kiffin's hire better. Think he's going to recruit

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Speaker 2: the state of Mississippi very well. Think he can expand

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Speaker 2: their recruiting borders beyond the state of Mississippi offensively.

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Speaker 1: I think what he does is going to be.

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Speaker 2: More successful at Ole Miss than what Mike Leach is

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Speaker 2: going to try to do. And I'm talking long term here,

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Speaker 2: what Michael Leach is going to try to do at

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00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. So I think overall, the program at Ole

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Speaker 2: Miss got a better ambassador and a better guy qualified

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Speaker 2: to lead them than.

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Speaker 1: Did Mississippi State, just the way I see it. Moving on,

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Moving on.

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Speaker 2: A couple of more here, David asks, is there any

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Speaker 2: G five team that could become a perennial New Year

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00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: six contender that is not currently Now I'm going to

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00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: go a little bit off the beaten path here because

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00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: the team I'm gonna mention is horrible right now. Central

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00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Florida is there already. Houston and Memphis, those are ones

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00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: that you could go for. You could also go to Cincinnati,

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00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: but those names are already largely in the mix. Now,

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Speaker 2: here's my first one that is reasonable. That's Louisiana Tech.

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00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: That's where Skip Holtz is. I got a buddy that

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00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: was just hired there, spoke glowingly of the culture.

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Speaker 1: At Louisiana Tech. Louisiana Tech is a place.

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00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: That I think they won ten games or something like

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00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: that last year, so they're already in a pretty good position.

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00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: I think Skip Holtz is leading a program right now

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00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: that if they're able to take one more step, one

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00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: more wrung up the ladder, they're in that conversation. They

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00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: are a team that you turn around in October and

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: early November in a normal calendar season and say, man,

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00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: they could actually they could be the G five team

1152
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: that goes to the Peach Bowl or the Cotton Bowl,

1153
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be. But let me tell

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Speaker 2: you another one that I wish would get it zack together,

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: and that's East Carolina. There's been a revolving door there

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00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: and East Carolina is a program that I think is

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00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: pretty uniquely positioned. It's good geographical region. You can get

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00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: good recruiting ties there. You have access to the Carolinas,

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: you can get into the South. You can also get

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Speaker 2: into the Tidewater area of Virginia. East Carolina is not

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00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: a good program right now, no two ways about that.

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Speaker 2: But that's one that if the right mixture of staff,

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Speaker 2: personnel and roster get in there, that's one that I'd.

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Speaker 1: Be excited to watch. Ironically enough, we just spoke about

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Speaker 1: skip Holes.

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Speaker 2: Bailey Myers, Yes, Bailey Myers' favorite song Dreams by Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 2: Moving on last question, Stephen White, this year's Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 2: Is there a Joe Burrow out there this year? Get

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Speaker 2: ready because this question is going to be asked from

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Speaker 2: now until eternity. Who is this year's twenty nineteen LSU?

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Speaker 2: Who is this year's Joe Burrow. My answer nine times

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Speaker 2: out of ten is going to be no one. I

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: will say this, though, if there's a program out there

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Speaker 2: that's built to roughly duplicate the blueprint that LSU just

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Speaker 2: pulled off, and if there is a core that's in

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Speaker 2: a position possibly theoretically to duplicate what Joe Burrow just did,

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Speaker 2: not in terms of overall stats, but just in theory,

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Speaker 2: that's got to be Jamie Newman.

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Speaker 1: In Georgia, that's got to be it. You've got the

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Speaker 1: loaded roster there.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of up and coming receivers, really

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00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: good receivers stable easily the best they've had there in

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Speaker 2: a generation. At the skills spots your terminology, not mine.

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Speaker 2: And you got a quarterback that's coming via transfer. And

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00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Burrow had been there two years, whereas Newman this will

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00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: be his first year there. But you got a championship

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Speaker 2: caliber defense there. In other words, you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of boxes already checked. You have a lot of things

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Speaker 2: already in place, A lot of systems are go at

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Speaker 2: Georgia that they bring in a new offensive coordinator in

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Speaker 2: Todd Monkin. You brought in Joe Brady. I know he

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Speaker 2: wasn't a coordinator. But you got a new influence there

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00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: in the coach's box. You got a new quarterback, you

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: got a new way of doing things. You got a

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Speaker 2: lot of weapons already on campus. If there is a

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Speaker 2: situation out there, there's a pinprick on a map where

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Speaker 2: you could say, right there, those are the folks that

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Speaker 2: could do what LSU did last year. Could be Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the taste is fresh in Georgia's mouth. If

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Speaker 2: anyone has seen up close and personal what LSU twenty

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Speaker 2: nineteen was all about.

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Speaker 1: It was Georgia.

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Speaker 2: They had a really good defense, ton of injuries, and

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Speaker 2: still a defense that was able to limit LSU until

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Speaker 2: they couldn't limit LSU anymore. Kirby Smart looked around and said,

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Speaker 2: I got to get me some of that. Hired a coordinator,

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Speaker 2: got a quarterback transfer, then spring gets taken from him,

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Speaker 2: which makes me question ultimately how far they'll be able

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Speaker 2: to be bought in into any kind of offensive overhaul,

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Speaker 2: especially when you know you can win with that defense.

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Speaker 1: But Georgia and Jamie Newman, that's where I would look.

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