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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Click your ass up the Breakfast Club, finish for y'all.

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Speaker 2: Done morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is the j Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. Lona Roses here as well.

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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 3: Cardea Brown.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling this morning?

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 2: How y'all feeling black and holly favored?

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Speaker 5: That's right?

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you what what it took to get here. Okay,

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Speaker 6: so my flight was canceled from Charleston, Oh right, but

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Speaker 6: I knew it was going to be canceled, so something

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Speaker 6: told me just go ahead and book a trip on

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Speaker 6: the Amtrak.

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Speaker 4: Y'all fourteen hours watching it.

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Speaker 2: We should be cooking for you.

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Speaker 4: A breakfast, but and then the train got stuck in DC.

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Speaker 2: So would you fly in?

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Speaker 4: I didn't fly in?

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Speaker 2: But when was you scheduled to fly in?

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Speaker 4: I was scheduled to fly in yesterday at two fifty

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Speaker 4: five this morning, and they can't.

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Speaker 2: They already had canceled day.

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Speaker 4: I heard cancel.

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Speaker 2: Yikes, he was going on.

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Speaker 4: I made sure I came.

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Speaker 7: You made it.

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Speaker 4: I made sure I was here.

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Speaker 7: That's because you're supposed to be here about this.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling. I'm feeling good, feeling good.

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Speaker 4: I feel like great.

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Speaker 7: I could have cooked you breakfast. You could, book says,

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Speaker 7: use what you got exactly?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? What did you have?

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Speaker 5: You could have did eggs, bacon, pancakes? I do with

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Speaker 5: fried apples? You know apple my grandmother does. Yep, that's

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Speaker 5: the thing from my grandma from Virginia.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so yeah that makes sense. So like you just

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Speaker 6: like take the apples, slice them up, cut them in

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Speaker 6: and put them in a pan with like some butter

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Speaker 6: or something.

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Speaker 7: And the cinnamon brown little brown sugar. Yeah, oh, I

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Speaker 7: definitely could have. That's our favorite meal.

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Speaker 3: That's an easy breakfast, you know, because you know, since

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Speaker 3: since your name been on this the list that you

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Speaker 3: were coming up here, Charlemagne has been salivating, right or

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Speaker 3: like just come to just thro all down the mouth.

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Speaker 3: So let's lit'sten because let's how did you get into cooking? Like,

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Speaker 3: let's got from the beginning. It's your first time? How

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Speaker 3: did you get into cooking?

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Speaker 1: What made you? We got some time?

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Speaker 6: Okay, So my grandmother and my mother are excellent cooks.

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Speaker 6: My grandmother on My father's side was known for her

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Speaker 6: red rice in Charleston. Hey, you know you know about

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Speaker 6: that red rice.

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Speaker 4: So she was a cook at the Pigle Wiggly on

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Speaker 4: meat and street.

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Speaker 8: Stuff.

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Speaker 2: Are you up? Okay?

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Speaker 6: So she was a cook, a long time cook there.

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Speaker 6: But I get it from both sides of my family.

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Speaker 6: I do not have any professional background experience. I did

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Speaker 6: not go to culinary school. It was just something I

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Speaker 2: I was to be so good and it still is.

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Speaker 6: The one on Savannah Highway. It's delicious, that fried chicken.

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Speaker 6: You know Callie Greens red rice on Fridays. My husband

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Speaker 6: now knows about it. But so I started out with

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Speaker 6: just like I'm My background is in social work. I

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Speaker 6: went to school for psychology. I just thought I was

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Speaker 6: going to do something in the nonprofit world, which I did.

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Speaker 6: I worked at Big Brothers, Bicks Sisters I did. I

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Speaker 6: did removal of children from homes, and I did child placement.

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Speaker 4: I did all of that.

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Speaker 6: So in the miss of doing that, because it's just

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Speaker 6: a very hard job. You know, it's rewarding, but it's hard.

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Speaker 6: So I use cooking as an outlet for me my

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Speaker 6: entire life. I've just always done exactly. So I was

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Speaker 6: living in Jersey at the time, in twenty fifteen, and

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Speaker 6: I was dating this guy who one day was like

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Speaker 6: later from a producer who's like, your boyfriend sent in

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Speaker 6: a video of you cooking.

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Speaker 7: He was cooking, I was cooking.

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Speaker 6: I was I was cooking, recording me cooking, and I

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Speaker 6: got a call from a producer.

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Speaker 4: My bad let me back up.

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Speaker 6: So I got a call from a producer said, hey,

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Speaker 6: we are featuring home cooks on this new show on

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Speaker 6: the Cooking Channel, and we want to feature you. We

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Speaker 6: like your style of cooking, like your personality.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a joke. I'm like, y'all are

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Speaker 6: I'm living in Jersey. I'm just cooking, you know, for fun.

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Speaker 6: This is not serious. You can't be They were serious.

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Speaker 6: They filmed the show over course of like a weekend,

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Speaker 6: and on the last day of filming, the producer came

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Speaker 6: up to me and said, I think you have what

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Speaker 4: I think you should try it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, I don't know what kind of jokes

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Speaker 6: you got going on here, but this was fun. I'm

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Speaker 6: going to go back to my cubicle on Monday and

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Speaker 4: My regular life.

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Speaker 6: He was like, I really think you should give this

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Speaker 6: a shot. You're natural at this. I know you've never

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Speaker 6: been on TV before, but if you, if you let

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Speaker 6: us pitch you, we want to pitch you to the

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Speaker 6: Food Network.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: So they pitched me, and well before that, something in me.

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Speaker 6: It was just like, God, you wouldn't bring me this

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Speaker 6: far and show me this if it wasn't something behind it.

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Speaker 6: So the following week I put in my resignation letter

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Speaker 6: at work.

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Speaker 9: Ooh, so you just like your discernment just said, you

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Speaker 9: know what, it's time to step on faith.

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Speaker 6: Nothing ever felt right as that weekend did, and so

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Speaker 6: I stepped out on faith, sold all of my belongings,

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Speaker 6: got on the Amtrak, and moved back down to Charleston and.

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Speaker 4: Said this is what is going to be.

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Speaker 6: I started a supper club called the New Gulla Supper Club,

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Speaker 6: where it featured all of the Gullageeche dishes, and I

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Speaker 6: took about four or five years before that. Yes, because

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Speaker 6: I did get a no again. I got a few notes,

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Speaker 6: I heard it as no, not right now. So I

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Speaker 6: kept kept honing in on my skills, kept doing my thing.

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Speaker 6: I did my supper club, and I had little appearances

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Speaker 6: here and there on the Cooking Channel and Food Network,

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Speaker 6: and eventually they gave me my shot, and with a

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Speaker 6: greenlit the first season of Delicious.

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Speaker 8: Delicious ms Brown. Wow, and you've won two Emmys for

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Speaker 8: that so far.

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Speaker 9: Wow, out Standing Culinary Instructional Series and Outstanding Culinary.

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Speaker 4: Hosts and the first black woman to do something.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 9: Man, it's so interesting, right because you know you and Sonny.

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Speaker 9: Sonny was the first black woman that I know from culture, right,

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Speaker 9: Sonny Anderson who broke through on the Food Network. How

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Speaker 9: hard is that for a black woman to break through

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Speaker 9: on the Food Network?

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Speaker 2: And I only know y'all do, right, that's it?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think over the years they've gotten better

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Speaker 6: with diversity and inclusion on the network, but for a

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Speaker 6: long time, it was just Sonny the Neely's yes, and

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Speaker 6: Chef Aaron with Big Daddy's House. And but as far

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Speaker 6: was the only one, and Sonny was you know, I like.

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Speaker 4: I tell anybody, Sonny is who I looked up to.

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Speaker 6: And I saw her on there and I saw her

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Speaker 6: being her authentic self, and I was like, if she

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Speaker 6: can do it, you know I can do But yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's it's just really been us. And then now Carla

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Speaker 6: Hall is on the network as well, but it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's it's hard. You know, it's a white male dominated

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Speaker 3: I do have one question before we go into the

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Speaker 10: When you used to work at CPS, what was the

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Speaker 10: reason why you would take a child from a home

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Speaker 10: like because usually they say it takes a long time,

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Speaker 10: it has to be almost like to the words, So

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Speaker 10: what would be that reason like how far does it

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Speaker 6: Can deplorable environments, like if you you know, I've said

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Speaker 6: before that sometimes CPS can let things slip through the

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Speaker 6: anything like coming in and seeing multiple reports of abuse

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Speaker 6: multiple cases and multiple write ups, then it would would

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Speaker 6: removal where there's clear abuse and then there's some that

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Speaker 6: it takes some cases and some write ups before that happens.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of parents are always scared that

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Speaker 3: mama hit me or my dad hit me. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: this dad doesn't get your kid taken out?

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Speaker 4: Okay, not immediately.

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Speaker 6: No, we always want we always want reunification, and we

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Speaker 6: always want children to be in their homes. But if

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Speaker 6: it's clear and there's multiple signs of something going on,

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Speaker 6: then there has to be an investigation first before a

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Speaker 8: Did a child ever complained that their parents couldn't cook,

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Speaker 4: Of course that happens.

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Speaker 6: That used to happen, like oh I didn't want this,

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Speaker 6: or kids would complain like, oh, I didn't get a

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Speaker 6: chance to wear it is I wanted to wear those sneakers.

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Speaker 6: They took my game from me or something that's you know, don't.

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Speaker 3: You get mad when they call you to the house

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Speaker 3: and you'd be like, you call them you cause your

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Speaker 3: mama took your game.

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Speaker 6: Or even when I was, even when I was a

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Speaker 6: social worker and I had like, you know, kids on beyond,

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Speaker 6: like them being with their their birthright families, like when

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Speaker 6: I did child placement and they were with their temporary households,

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Speaker 6: and I would get calls on the and I can

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Speaker 6: hear the phone now, the on call phone, And I

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Speaker 6: would get some of my clients who would be like, well,

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Speaker 6: I'm on punishments, so why are you unpunishment?

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 6: I got a couple of f's and so you decided

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Speaker 6: to punch holes in the wall and do crazy stuff

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Speaker 6: because you got f's on your report card? Now, how

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Speaker 6: does that in three o'clock in the morning, Like I

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Speaker 6: got to go remove a child and play put him

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Speaker 9: You know, I've heard you say that you're cooking is

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Speaker 4: Don't do shrimp chicken alfredo. We don't for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have much time and the dumplings just kind

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Speaker 4: I know desserts. So I made a red velvet cake.

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Speaker 6: I said, do you if you put your finger, I said,

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Speaker 4: He was like, nah, it is dry.

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: Mumbling across the house, he threw it away.

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Speaker 2: Damn, that's cold.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: I just thought I was coming in there and you know,

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Speaker 9: How how is your Goulah Geechee heritage shape? Not just

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Speaker 6: Oh man, you know, just coming from being of Gully

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Speaker 6: Why is that all these years later?

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Speaker 6: You know, there should be more of us we I mean,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Pam need to showtabbing today.

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Speaker 4: The restaurant Cartier Brown Southern Kitchen.

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Speaker 7: Today now this is the age we got food at home.

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Speaker 6: That it's definitely that, you know, And so I think

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Speaker 6: But I wouldn't say discourage discourage you from doing that

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Speaker 9: And you just do it good, and you do do

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 5: Has everything going on with the airports and all that stuff?

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Speaker 1: It just stuck.

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Speaker 6: The business is booming, boom.

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Speaker 2: That restaurant.

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Speaker 8: That restaurant.

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Speaker 7: I can't wait to come down there, And you.

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Speaker 6: Got to grow while you're there. You got to come

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Speaker 6: because I mean, I believe in that.

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Speaker 4: I like to eat. Listen, I got you, I got

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Speaker 5: Charlagne was telling me that because I love seafood, I

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Speaker 7: No, not even that, I just don't think that.

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Speaker 4: That's all. That's That's what the.

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Speaker 6: like our crab cracks where we put paper down on

448
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Speaker 6: the on the table and pull out bushels of crab

449
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 6: and we you know, see that's it's so similar. It's

450
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Speaker 6: so or that too big ross, you know, BJ just

451
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Speaker 6: BJ Dennis as it a lot back home.

452
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Speaker 4: But yeah, we get down the same way.

453
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you talked about being nervous when you first filmed

454
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Speaker 9: at Home, right, what was the moment you realized I

455
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Speaker 9: belong here?

456
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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I think it was. It wasn't.

457
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Speaker 6: It wasn't long until the first season where it kind

458
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Speaker 6: of hit me like, oh, this is happening. But later

459
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 6: on down the line, I'm in my ten season out

460
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Speaker 6: of the show and recently winning the Emmys, winning two Emmy's.

461
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Speaker 6: I think before then it's not really the validation of it,

462
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Speaker 6: but it's like having your peers recognize you in a sense,

463
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Speaker 6: because there's been so many time where I've sat at

464
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Speaker 6: tables and people are like, well, how many restaurants do

465
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Speaker 6: you own? You know, so what what culinary school did

466
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Speaker 6: you go to? And I never really have an answer, like, no,

467
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Speaker 6: I didn't go to culinary school.

468
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Speaker 4: No, I did. I don't own at the time, I

469
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Speaker 4: didn't own any restaurants.

470
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Speaker 6: I had a traveling supper club, and so it was

471
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Speaker 6: always trying to fight for that I belong here. I

472
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Speaker 6: don't know why, y'all don't understand that. God would not

473
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Speaker 6: put me in this seat if it wasn't a thing

474
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Speaker 6: for me. And so winning the Emmy was like, oh,

475
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Speaker 6: I guess you do kind of got something going on here.

476
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Speaker 6: But but before that, I think I realized it kind

477
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Speaker 6: of it wasn't too long until I was.

478
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Speaker 4: Like, all right, this is it?

479
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Speaker 7: Did it take?

480
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Speaker 5: It took all that time until you won the Emmy?

481
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Speaker 5: Just because you are one of only for a long

482
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Speaker 5: time in the food network? Is that why the kind

483
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Speaker 5: of ampost syndrome was there?

484
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Speaker 8: You know?

485
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Speaker 6: That's that's funny. I was just talking about someone. I

486
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Speaker 6: was just talking to someone about that the other day.

487
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Speaker 6: The imposter syndrome of feeling like, Okay, I don't have

488
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Speaker 6: all of these accolades and all of this the schooling

489
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Speaker 6: to back up what I do, but I know I

490
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Speaker 6: can cook, and I know I can cook with the

491
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Speaker 6: best of them, and just kind of reminding yourself that too,

492
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Speaker 6: and especially when your pay doesn't equal your skill, that is,

493
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Speaker 6: you know something that that kind of puts you in

494
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Speaker 6: that in that whole of thinking, like do I belong here?

495
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Speaker 4: Like why am I ten season?

496
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Speaker 8: Then?

497
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Speaker 6: Why am I still fighting for a decent salary? Or

498
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Speaker 6: why am I still fighting for the same contracts as

499
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Speaker 6: my colleagues? You know, like that that I think affects

500
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Speaker 6: that imposter syndrome.

501
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Speaker 4: It kind of amplifies it.

502
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Speaker 5: Something who helped you navigate that world in the beginning,

503
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Speaker 5: Like you have these people that you name now, but

504
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Speaker 5: it was very few far in between. So when you

505
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Speaker 5: come in and you're figuring out them contracts and dealing

506
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Speaker 5: with all these execs, who was your person you picked

507
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Speaker 5: up the phone a call?

508
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Speaker 2: No one?

509
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Speaker 4: I had no one.

510
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Speaker 8: Wow.

511
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Speaker 4: No.

512
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Speaker 6: I started off with the agent. I did start off

513
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Speaker 6: with W and me and I and they did help

514
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Speaker 6: me in a sense. But there was a lot of

515
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Speaker 6: things that I did not know, even taxes wise, I

516
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 6: did not know. And you know, turning you know yourself

517
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Speaker 6: in till your business until an LLC and becoming an

518
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Speaker 6: escorp and all of that stuff, and there was no

519
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Speaker 6: one really to help me. I kind of had to

520
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Speaker 6: teach myself contracts and asking for what I what, I'm

521
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Speaker 6: what I deserve, you know, and and kind of figuring

522
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Speaker 6: out on my own. So I had agents, but you know,

523
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Speaker 6: agents are also there to get there.

524
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Speaker 9: You made a lot of mistakes early on business wise,

525
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Speaker 9: I don't think you know what I didn't.

526
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Speaker 6: And I think that it came from my grandmother being

527
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Speaker 6: a very business savvy woman. She was the first person

528
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Speaker 6: in our family to go to college and get an education,

529
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Speaker 6: and and so she always instilled in me the idea

530
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Speaker 6: of business and saving and reading and understanding and acquiring

531
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Speaker 6: knowledge on your own and not waiting for someone to

532
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Speaker 6: tell you what it is. And my mom is also

533
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Speaker 6: very very good with that as well. So and I

534
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 6: also never wanted to be broke again, so you know,

535
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Speaker 6: I know the feeling of of of not having and

536
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Speaker 6: I didn't want to go back, and so I figured

537
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Speaker 6: out ways to say okay. And then I started asking

538
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Speaker 6: questions from like, you know, on set, like hey, who's

539
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Speaker 6: your lawyer or who's your accountant? Can you can you

540
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Speaker 6: you know, refer someone to me or you know, and

541
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Speaker 6: it's like, I see you doing well, I see you

542
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Speaker 6: have multiple businesses and stocks and whatever have you, So

543
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Speaker 6: can you refer me to that person, and that's kind

544
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Speaker 6: of how I learned.

545
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Speaker 9: I feel like your book is so timely, and I

546
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Speaker 9: love the date of eleven eleven because that just means

547
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 9: everything is in divine alignment. But it's called make do

548
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Speaker 9: with what you have in this era right now where

549
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Speaker 9: you know, you got federal workers who haven't been paid

550
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Speaker 9: in forty plus days. You know, when you got people

551
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Speaker 9: losing snap benefits. This is going to be a holiday

552
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Speaker 9: season where people really got to make do with what

553
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Speaker 9: they have.

554
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Speaker 2: What made you want to lean into that aspect of.

555
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Speaker 6: Well, the thing is, this is how I grew up.

556
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Speaker 6: This is all I know. Even to this day. I

557
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Speaker 6: had someone mentioned to me the other day, She's like, oh,

558
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Speaker 6: well in the comments of because I did it like

559
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Speaker 6: a or of my fridge and someone in the common said,

560
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Speaker 6: I noticed you use a lot of store brand.

561
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Speaker 4: Things, and I do you know?

562
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Speaker 6: There was like I know a Public's bottle when I

563
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Speaker 6: see I shop at publics.

564
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Speaker 4: I shopped at Harris Teeter.

565
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Speaker 6: But the reason for me making this book was because

566
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Speaker 6: the first book, my first book, The Way Home, was

567
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Speaker 6: all about like getting to know who I am and

568
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Speaker 6: where I'm from and the foods of the of the region,

569
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Speaker 6: and then now this book is a continuation of my

570
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Speaker 6: mother being a single parent working three jobs at one time,

571
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Speaker 6: my grandmother helping to raise me, and there were times,

572
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Speaker 6: more often than not where we really just had to

573
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Speaker 6: have food at home, like McDonald's will pass by, like

574
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Speaker 6: mom wants some you know, philaggraph seriously, like and McDonald's

575
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Speaker 6: at the house was a pot of rice and some

576
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Speaker 6: beans or something like that. But it's like, we have

577
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Speaker 6: food at home and that's.

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Speaker 8: The white A piece of hamburg meat, that's.

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Speaker 6: What, right, And you know, maybe some handcut fries if

580
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Speaker 6: you were lucky. But it's just the way that I

581
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Speaker 6: grew up eating, and it's my style of cooking, even

582
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Speaker 6: on Delicious Miss Brown, Like if you watch the show,

583
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Speaker 6: you'll see that I never reach for a lot of

584
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Speaker 6: fancy ingredients. It's always things that you can find in

585
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Speaker 6: your pantry, in your in your refrigerator, things that you know,

586
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Speaker 6: you go to a grocery store and you do your

587
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Speaker 6: your haul for the first, you know, two weeks of

588
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Speaker 6: the month, and you can make meals out of those things.

589
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Speaker 6: And I think this is new to some people who

590
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Speaker 6: aren't used to struggle, But this is what I know

591
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Speaker 6: you know, like this is how I grew up, and

592
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Speaker 6: so I'm helping people maybe who don't understand, like, hey, now,

593
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Speaker 6: times are a little iffy and you got to figure

594
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Speaker 6: out things at home. Like as a as a business

595
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Speaker 6: owner and a restaurant owner, I would love for you

596
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Speaker 6: to come out and travel and eat, but I also

597
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Speaker 6: know the reality of it, and it's not It's not

598
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Speaker 6: feasible for everyone. So I want you to be able

599
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Speaker 6: to open your fridge and not look in there and say, man,

600
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Speaker 6: we don't got nothing eating here, which I did a

601
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Speaker 6: lot as a child, But you'll see your refrigerator and

602
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Speaker 6: your pantry in a different light, like, Okay, the other

603
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Speaker 6: day I walked in. I was like, I got some onions,

604
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Speaker 6: some celery, got a little sausage here. I got some

605
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Speaker 6: beans in the cabinet. Oh, I can make red beans

606
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Speaker 6: and rice. Always keep rice on hand, Always keep grits

607
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Speaker 6: on hand, Always keep eggs on hand, sugar, all of

608
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Speaker 6: those things.

609
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Speaker 4: And you can make something out of nothing.

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Speaker 6: You can without you know, having it be a struggle

611
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Speaker 6: and having you know, when people looking at a refrigerator

612
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Speaker 6: and they get kind of bogged down or disappointed that

613
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Speaker 6: I don't have certain things like that. That's all right,

614
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Speaker 6: you can still make a decent meal with the stuff

615
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Speaker 6: that you have.

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Speaker 1: Say, what's a cheap meal that you can make?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: So let's say there's a mom listening right now, right,

619
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Speaker 3: they just picked up their kids from school. Okay, they

620
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Speaker 3: need to make a quick meal that's inexpensive that the

621
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Speaker 3: kids are like, go, what do you go to?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that would be my chicken bog.

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Speaker 6: That's like getting like whatever meat cut of chicken you

624
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Speaker 6: got in your house, even some drumsticks and wings, breast,

625
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Speaker 6: whatever you take that, you season it, you make some

626
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Speaker 6: you get some celery and some onions and stuff. You

627
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Speaker 6: cook that down in the pot, and you put the

628
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Speaker 6: chicken in. You cook the chicken. Then you add rice

629
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Speaker 6: to the pot. Right, you cook that all together. So

630
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Speaker 6: all the you know, the fragrant, fragrant vegetables, and the

631
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Speaker 6: seasoning and the juices and the natural fasts from the

632
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Speaker 6: chicken all coming together in this one pot. So you

633
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Speaker 6: got a meal in one pot.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's so funny because all of these My stomach

635
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 9: is over here ground because I'm just thinking about all

636
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Speaker 9: of these meals that feel like hugs, right, like little things,

637
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 9: grits and eggs for breakfast is always flap. My grandma

638
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 9: used to take toast and she would just put cheese

639
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Speaker 9: on it and give you a cup of tea.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh my god, a little butter on it.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

642
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Speaker 9: What's one recipe that always brings your family together, no

643
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Speaker 9: matter how busy everybody is.

644
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Speaker 2: No, we're going to.

645
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Speaker 4: A recipe or a meal, a meal fried fish and

646
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Speaker 4: red rice.

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Speaker 5: Look at him, man, but you're making me so hungry.

648
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: You got you gotta actually try the food.

649
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Speaker 2: Should have.

650
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Speaker 4: I wish I was like next time.

651
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Speaker 7: That means you got to come back.

652
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Speaker 4: I have to come back.

653
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Speaker 6: Red beans and rice, all of that gumbos collar green,

654
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Speaker 6: gumbo fish all.

655
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Speaker 7: Why is that the meal?

656
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Speaker 6: It's just what we were known for in Charleston. Like

657
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Speaker 6: on Fridays, you know, you get paid Fridays, you go

658
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Speaker 6: get your fried bushy. Yeah, you go get your fried

659
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Speaker 6: push and your your your your red rice, lama beans

660
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Speaker 6: sometimes and piece of toasted cheap white bread, you know,

661
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Speaker 6: and and that's how you and that's that's how you

662
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Speaker 6: get down.

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy listening to like different areas of the country,

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Speaker 3: right because we didn't really cook like that, Like my

665
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Speaker 3: mom did pork and beans like porking beans was like

666
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Speaker 3: the cheap mail, right.

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Speaker 1: She cut it up with some hot dogs. She cut

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Speaker 1: the hot dogs in it. That was that was our meal, right.

669
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: I hated when my mom cooked meatloaf like meat loaf,

670
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Speaker 1: I was hated.

671
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Speaker 3: I hated the way it looked. I hated New Year's

672
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: even my mom used to cook on chip lists.

673
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Speaker 1: But anyway.

674
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Speaker 2: You do.

675
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Speaker 5: That's that's the two things that my grandmother still she's

676
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: not supposed to have them, but my my family still

677
00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: does though.

678
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 7: Those those are the two things that.

679
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Speaker 4: I like to give. Your family's originally from Delaware and

680
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: they eat fat back, Well.

681
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: No, there, My grandmother and her sisters are originally from Virginia, Lynchburg.

682
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, but then they move to Delaware. That's not everything

683
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 7: so country.

684
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: So that's something. So I'm like her fat backs in

685
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 4: a while. But yeah, porking. We eat pork and beans too.

686
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 3: But you know what I was saying is like here

687
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: it was we were we're so Caribbean food like for

688
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: us as beef patties for us, as jerk chicken for us,

689
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: it's oxtail, it's curry gold, it's you know, those are

690
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: the meals that we eat and it's like, I love those,

691
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: but it always takes long. When my wife cooks oxtail,

692
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: it just seems like it's a procedure. It is, and

693
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm like.

694
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm hungry.

695
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: She's like, you want the bone, you want to meet

696
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: the fall off the bone.

697
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 8: Don't.

698
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: But it's just it just takes so long. What's the

699
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: longest meal it takes for you to prepare?

700
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Speaker 4: I would be it would be a short rib or

701
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: an oxtail, and it takes about four or five hours

702
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: at two seventy five, and it's got to sit in

703
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 4: that Dutch oven or over that crock pot and just

704
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: low and slow.

705
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: I'll cook it a whole hole. Yeah, yeah.

706
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: Could they do?

707
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 6: My uncles and them in the country, do I I've

708
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: not graduated to that yet. I just can't. I can't

709
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 6: see myself, you know, opening the hall. No, I'm not

710
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 6: that country yet.

711
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: Oh I want to ask you yet.

712
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 7: I love in your book you have tips for saving money.

713
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 5: You help people get there, like cookwear together, and you

714
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: talk about how you can do it for the low

715
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: as well too. But the tips for saving money, I

716
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 5: never think it's very personal to you. What was like

717
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 5: the tip that you were like, I want to put

718
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 5: this in, but I got to leave out that didn't

719
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: make the cut in the book.

720
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 4: Oh manager specials.

721
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: The you know growing up, you know you remember the

722
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 6: pack of meat that might have been expired or close

723
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 6: to it, Like, don't be afraid to use those like

724
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 6: because I mean the supermarket has to buy law kind

725
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: of put things on sale or get it out of

726
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 6: there right before it goes bad. But there a lot

727
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 6: of stuff are more shelf stable than you actually know.

728
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: They are. Like beans.

729
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 6: If you see like a pack of dry beans and

730
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 6: it says, oh, it expires on twenty twenty five, and

731
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 6: well January twenty twenty five beans, dry beans will last

732
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 6: in your pantry indefinitely. So doing things like that, like

733
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 6: getting things that are you know, maybe discounted because it

734
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 6: is going to expire in a day or two. Go

735
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 6: ahead and get that and you can pop it in

736
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 6: your freezer. They can't keep it on the shelf because

737
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 6: it's not frozen, but you can get those cuts of

738
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 6: meats and you can put it in your freezer and

739
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 6: thaw it out and use it whenever you.

740
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Speaker 1: Want to do that.

741
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: In college, chicken, in college, I would wait till the

742
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: day about the expire and they go half price at

743
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: the supermarket.

744
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we cook it up.

745
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: That's a that's that is definitely a hack people, A

746
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 6: lot of people do, and you don't realize it because

747
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: you can go get you know, a ribby for half

748
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 6: the price because they're about to put it on sales.

749
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 6: So if you see that, like maybe it's going to

750
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 6: expire in about two or three days, go ahead and

751
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 6: get it.

752
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: While I was on sailing, put it in your freezer.

753
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: How should you eat your meat?

754
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 8: Right?

755
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: God?

756
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 9: Dang, yeah, my god.

757
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: When I was when I was younger, right, and I

758
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: used to eat it was well done right because that's

759
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: what we're told you gotta eat well double Now it

760
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: is medium?

761
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: So how should somebody eat their steak? Pause?

762
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: Eat their meat?

763
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 6: I would say medium? Well, I like, I'm a medium,

764
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 6: Well girl, like I want a little bit of brown

765
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 6: and just till it gets to the center.

766
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 5: Thing.

767
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Pink is soft and just juicy melts in your mouth

768
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: by way.

769
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: But see I don't want the cowles to be moving,

770
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 4: you know.

771
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Not moving, but pink's it got to melt in your mouth. Medium.

772
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 6: Medium is okay. I go with medium for like my

773
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 6: my like lamb chops or pork. Yes, I'll do that,

774
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 6: but like for as far as stay scared.

775
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Of the pork, medium man, because I don't know growing

776
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: up it a little bounce to it. He is sick. Right,

777
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: My mom used to get the porky eat salmonella whatever

778
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: it's called.

779
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, five is okay for pork. Yeah, and then salmon too,

780
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 6: if you eat salmon. I like my medium.

781
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes.

782
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 9: I want want to ask you right in the intro,

783
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 9: you got these mantras you already talked about you got

784
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 9: McDonald's money.

785
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 8: I just want to say some of these mantras and

786
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 8: you tell me what.

787
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 9: They mean to you, right, And you said these are

788
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 9: mantras your mother and grandmother instilled in you. And I

789
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 9: also want to know which one of the most relevant

790
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 9: to you where you are in life right now. If

791
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 9: you want to act grown, be grown.

792
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: Now?

793
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 6: That was you know, you think you've grown, well, then

794
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: go ahead and take your stuff and get out and

795
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: do it on your own.

796
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Damn.

797
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom, is you remember the first time you

798
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: heard that?

799
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was about fourteen or fifteen, and I guess

800
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 6: I had got you know, started feeling myself a little

801
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 6: bit and I said something back to her. She was like,

802
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: all right, if you want to act grown, you can

803
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 6: be grown. Pack your stuff up, call your grandmother and

804
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 6: telling you on the porch you need to go. I

805
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 6: was like, what you mean Like she actually had me

806
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: pack my stuff up and put me outside and called

807
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: my grandmother, said you can come get her. She could

808
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 6: figure out what she's doing, said she want to be

809
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 6: so grown here, and I said, you can't do that.

810
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: You can't put me.

811
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 6: But that I mean back then, like I mean, I

812
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: kind of felt I guess I was feeling myself.

813
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: A little bit.

814
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you.

815
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 6: No, she was like absolutely not, like Patty, let it

816
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 6: back in the house.

817
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: Don't don't do it like that.

818
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: You know, she didn't mean, she didn't mean any harm,

819
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 6: but you know, it took about an hour or two,

820
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 6: but she let me back in. But I at that

821
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 6: point I realized I was not grown.

822
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: The Lord will make a way out of no way.

823
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 6: Every single time, and I say that with conviction, every

824
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 6: single time. I am a living testimony of making God

825
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 6: would bring you through the darkest storms. I was homeless

826
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 6: at one point. So to be here today talking about

827
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 6: my second cookbook and being here with you all as

828
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 6: a testament that God will will bring you out.

829
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: The darkest situation was that the moment because we all, you.

830
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 9: Know, we all are believers and we all have faith,

831
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 9: but we always had that one real moment where we

832
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 9: like Lord, God, I know that was God.

833
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

834
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 6: I feel like it happens on a daily you know,

835
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 6: like just driving to work or flying on a plane

836
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 6: or just doing it like when you land like that

837
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: that was nothing but God. Or you know, getting home

838
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 6: to your your house and your family. That that had

839
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 6: to be and God, because anything could have happened in

840
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: between times.

841
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: So I you know, you see that on a on

842
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: a daily.

843
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: He will never give you more than you can bear.

844
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 6: Never, And I think as as humans, we underestimate how

845
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: much we can actually take and deal with, and God

846
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 6: shows us like, Okay, yeah, this may be a very

847
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 6: trying time, but I'm given this to you because I

848
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: know you can handle it. And once you handle it,

849
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 6: and if it happens again, you know that I've been

850
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 6: here before, I've handled this. So this coming the next

851
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 6: thing coming in, you know, it's easy, it's nothing.

852
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 9: And I think this is when people need to really

853
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 9: understand in this era, don't be penny wise and pound foolish.

854
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, my grandma be saying it to me.

855
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't be penny wise and pound foolish means that

856
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 6: you don't don't think you know more than what you

857
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 6: actually do. You know, be open and receptive to feedback

858
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: and criticism and constructive criticism. And you don't know everything.

859
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 6: You don't and there's somebody that's going to know a

860
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 6: little bit more than you, or somebody's going to help

861
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 6: you understand this. But be open and receptive to to criticism,

862
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 6: constructive feedback, and just advice.

863
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 9: What's next for the Delicious Miss Brown brand? You know,

864
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 9: we got cookbooks, we got restaurants, we got products.

865
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: Yes, you know.

866
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 6: Right now I am looking forward to I'm hosting Kids

867
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 6: Baking Championship with Duff Goldman at the top of the year.

868
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 6: Holiday Baking Championship is on now, you know I'm at

869
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: this time. I'm I'm the type of person that's always

870
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: like I got to have everything in control, Like I

871
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 6: got to have my next plan written down. I know

872
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 6: I'm doing this, I know I'm going to do that next.

873
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 6: I am allowing the universe to do what it is. Oh, okay,

874
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 6: whatever God has for me. I'm not gonna limit myself

875
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: to anything given you in work that has given me

876
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 6: so much because it so oftentimes and social media is

877
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: and I'm sorry, You're fine social media and I'm and

878
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 6: I am very I do it to this day, I'm

879
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: guilty of comparing to other people's where they are in

880
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 6: their life, their their point c to my point. A.

881
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 9: We was talking about that this morning and I was like, Yo,

882
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 9: they got people got to stop doing that because niggas

883
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 9: be lying, they on social media.

884
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 6: Lying every all day long, especially to people that you

885
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 6: know that you know, I know you don't live like that,

886
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 6: but I I, you know, get caught up with that.

887
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 6: And social media makes it really easy to get caught

888
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 6: up with comparing your journey to someone else's. And I've

889
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 6: I've caught myself saying that, Okay, I you know, if

890
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 6: this book doesn't get New York Times bestseller, but why

891
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 6: did their books? You know, why is their book? Why

892
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 6: is this book not selling? It's fine, And I'm tired.

893
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: You get tired of.

894
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 6: That because at the end of the day, what what

895
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 6: my pieces, my slow mornings being with my husband, having

896
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: the freedom to get up and do what I love

897
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 6: to do every day. That's the older you get, the

898
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 6: more those things matter to you. So it's a peace

899
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 6: of mind of knowing just like, hey, whatever happens, happens,

900
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: but I know it's going to always be for my

901
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 6: greater good.

902
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: I got one more. You dedicated the book to your husband.

903
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: I did.

904
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 8: Why did you dedicated to your.

905
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 6: He's the reason why I cook. He's I enjoy cooking

906
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 6: for myself, you know. But it's nothing like, babe, what

907
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 6: you're feeling like today, you know, or like you know,

908
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: with seeing his face when he's excited about something that

909
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 6: I'm making, and when he walks in the house and

910
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 6: I'm cooking and he's like, oh, it's smell good in here.

911
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 6: That that makes me feel good. So I get. I

912
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 6: get gratification and satisfaction from It's my love language feeding

913
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: you know, not only his body, but his soul too.

914
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 9: So that's what And I also want to say, uh,

915
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 9: you know, we always say we're losing recipes. You do

916
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 9: you think cookbooks are spiritual?

917
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: Because absolutely, especially.

918
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: Coming from you know, black and brown households where recipes

919
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 6: are not written down. It's only like word of mouth.

920
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 6: And so God forbid if big Mama goes and y'all

921
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 6: didn't get that sweet potato pie recipe or that fat

922
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: bag recipe, and nobody wrote it down and nobody can

923
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 6: call her, you know. So having recipes written down and

924
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 6: the stories that follow the recipes are so important because

925
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 6: eventually all of us are gonna leave this place one day,

926
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: and you got something, gotta have something left to talk about.

927
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining.

928
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 4: Us, Thank you so much.

929
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 9: And listen, I'm over the holidays. What's the date we're

930
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 9: gonna be with Chris Kalen?

931
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 4: Yes day after given?

932
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, November twenty eighth, actually November twenty eighth, will

933
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 9: be at the Magnolia Room. Myself, Cardia, I said it

934
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 9: right right, Cardier Cardier like the glasses, like the Cardio Cardier, Cardier, Myself,

935
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 9: Cardier and AJ from the We Talk Back podcast will

936
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 9: be with Chris Kalen at the Magnolia Room in Charleston

937
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 9: seven to twenty magnoliar road Man. So tick it's all

938
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 9: available for that now, I believe, I don't know. I'm

939
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 9: just reading this on Chris Kellen's page.

940
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: Cardia Brown to.

941
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 9: Cardier Brown, Suverurn Kitchen and Charleston Airport Man I'm telling you,

942
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 9: somebody is listening to me right now, and they're like,

943
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 9: you know what, on flight is delayed for two hours.

944
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 9: Hook yourself up right path the Chick fil A and

945
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 9: going the summer kitchen.

946
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: That's right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, hold on

947
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: every day.

948
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Up weak Ago, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.

949
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Speaker 2: Y'all done,