WEBVTT - J.C. Deacon 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.080 It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. We come to 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.880 you every Wednesday. I am your host, Claude Harmon, and 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:16.360 uh yeah, I don't even know where to start. We 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.120 recorded J C. Deacon for the pod today. He's been 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.840 on before. He's the men's golf coach at the University 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.439 of Florida. They just won a national championship. It's a 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.800 fantastic interview and I'm really really excited for everyone to 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.680 hear it. But obviously the news of Live partnering with 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.280 the PGA Tour, the PGA Tour partnering with Live, lots 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.199 to unpack. We are going to get to it. I'm 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.560 gonna release a bonus episode of the pod for later 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.559 this week because I am still trying to unpack what's 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.360 happened my mind. Honestly, my mind has been blown. I 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.560 didn't see this coming. I don't think anybody saw this coming. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.480 I'm gonna take a couple of days to try and 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.720 figure this out, but we will be dropping a bonus 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:04.399 epsiod to the pod for Friday. Lots to unpack and 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.440 lots to try and figure out. But Jac Deacon friend 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.440 mentor and I am just a huge, huge fan. He 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.360 had a player win the individual championship for Division one 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:24.000 college golf and coaches a team that won the team championship. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.920 It's been a hell of a run for him. I'm excited. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.840 We talk about some really cool stuff, some great stories, 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.479 and I think it's a great pod. So sit back 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:41.720 and enjoy listening to coach J C. Deacon. All Right, coach, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.160 we had you on the podcast last year. This year, 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:52.600 twenty twenty three, see to a Division one individual champion 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.280 in Fred Beyondi and the Gators win the national championship. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.200 You said, I saw an interview you said you if 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.280 you could write story, nobody believe it. What a run 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.800 you guys went on And I love the quote that 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.920 you said, you know in the postseason, the guys just 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:10.920 never flinched. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:17.080 What was that experience like, Well, I think what you 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.480 said about not being able to script it is bang on. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.440 Just the whole way it all went down. There was 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.880 there was a lot of ups and downs and kept 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.040 us on the edge of the seat. But every time 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.240 the guys were called upon to hit a big shot 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.880 to win a match, to play a big round, I 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:36.040 mean we were stepping back of the number at Regionals 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.520 with one round to go, just to make it to 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.000 the national championship and you should win shoot sixty six, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.760 you know, on a really windy day to get even 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.240 get us there and give us a chance. So just 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:52.000 everyone contributed. They're all so tough. I'm so proud of 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.720 how much growth we've had, and to go through that 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.240 and be alongside them, was it was literally a dream 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:57.760 come true. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.160 Yeah, we talked at Augusta. We were on the driving range. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.720 I was asking how the team was going, and you 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.600 were like, Man, you know, I think we're close. You know, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.440 we just need some of these guys to step up. 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.000 I'm always interested. Obviously, everything that you do as a 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.120 college golf coach is, especially if you're at a program 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.280 like Florida, everything is about trying to win a national championship. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:23.480 So having just done it, how different was that experience 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.440 for you? Because I mean, I remember I was always 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.000 wanting to work with players that have won majors. Brooks 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.240 just won the eighth major I've been a part of, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.920 and every one of them are different, but you always 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.160 have this idea of what it's going to be like 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.040 and what that experience is going to be. Was it 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.160 different in person and in real life than what you 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.960 imagined winning one would look like. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:50.040 Right, Well, first off, congratulations brother. Whatever you guys discussed 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.400 after the Masters came in Clutch on Sunday at the PGA. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.160 That was awesome. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.880 But well, the good thing is, you know, Brooks, I 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.640 didn't have to say anything after the Masters. I told 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.000 the guys on my staff, and I think I told 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.280 my wife after I flew home from Augusta that night, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.080 and I said, Brooks will win the PGA. I mean, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.760 you can bet it. I told all my guys on 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.280 my staff, I said, you can one hundred percent bet 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.360 the house on it, because it's it's a one hundred. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.560 I couldn't say it, but you just it's you know, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.360 when players are playing good, you go through this all 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.320 the time. You see it, even if they have a 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.160 little no. I mean, it's no surprise. We just saw 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.960 Victor Hovlin win, right yeah. I mean, coming off you're 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.840 having a chance to win his first major and you 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.120 can see this snowball. You guys win. You guys get 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.120 through it, you win the sec you get through regionals. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.920 Did you feel like you could see things peaking at 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.640 the right time, because that's what we talked about, right, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.040 We talked about it, Augusta that you're like, Hey, you know, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.200 I've got a great team. I've put a good squad together. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.960 They just need to step up in the big moments. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.719 And you couldn't have any coach. You couldn't have any 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.080 bigger moments that these guys needed to step up for 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.800 And every time you needed them to do it as 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.520 a coach, they they delivered. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.760 Yeah. Well, I'll tell you a good story that probably 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:11.680 paints a good picture. We put the lineups together against 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.160 Vanderbilt at the SEC Championship, and I remember staring at 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.320 it the night before we had to play them in 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.240 the final. They're the number one team in the country. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:24.600 Great coaches, great program, great kids, Gordon Sargent, you know, kids, 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.320 the whole deal. Yeah, And I remember looking at that 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.560 lineup card and saying, how are we going to get 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.480 one point? Let alone three? And our guys just went 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.159 out there the next morning and they just acted like 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.880 they've been there, and they were comfortable and they hit 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:43.520 the shots. And John Dubas made you know, I'd been 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.919 in the around the biggest tournaments like you have, but 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.520 in my life I've seen a lot of them, and 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.800 he made the best twenty footer that these eyes have 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.680 ever seen to win the national chair or the SEC 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.680 championship on the eighteenth hole in front of everyone. And 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.480 then you know, we get to Regionals and we play 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.839 that big final round, and then you get to Nationals 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.720 and we didn't have a great first day, but then 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:07.440 they come back with an unbelievable second day, another unbelievable 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.760 third day, and then just kept on answering the call 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.480 every time it came. And then we got to match 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.200 play and it was the same thing. You know, you're 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.280 trying to stand in a moment. I think that's the key. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.039 We were trying to keep them in the moment, not 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.640 letting them think about the final when we're in the 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.320 quarterfinal or get past the match that we were in, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.919 and I was trying to do that as a coach. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.320 So it was just kind of one step at a time. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.839 And then all of a sudden, Okay, we're in the semifinals, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.720 but we're down two points, tied in two matches, down 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.839 in the third match, two down with three to go, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.800 like okay, now it's we're done. Where finally it's all over, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.040 our lucks run out, and then sure enough, these guys 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.720 pull it off. And Ricky wins two out of the 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.839 last three to go to extras and then wins them. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:52.839 I mean how long I mean I watched the putt 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.880 that Ricky hold out. I mean twenty first hole had 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.840 to go to a playoff. You guys were playing again 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.120 and again. You can't script this, right, you guys in 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.640 the semi finals against Florida State, Right, yeah? I mean, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.360 it doesn't get any bigger of a rival for Florida 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.000 as a university, right, I mean, that is a grudge match. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.880 It was a grudge match and football back in the day. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.680 It's a grudge match in every sport. You guys want 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.520 to beat Florida State every time you play them. You're 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.480 in the semis of the National Championship and your boy, Ricky, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.160 I mean, was that thirty feet? 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.400 It was probably probably twenty five feet, a solid. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.280 Twenty five feet. Did you think he was going to 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:27.640 make it? 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.040 Well? The key was I knew Florida State was in 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.720 trouble if they didn't make their putt because Brett Roberts, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.960 who he was playing, was on the direct same line 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.720 and he Ricky had to move his coin to to 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.760 the left and when Brett I saw as soon as 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.760 he hit it, it kind of bounced early and got 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.360 low and missed. I asked Ricky, I said, hey, dude, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.680 you got it. He said yes to me so fast. Yeah, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.680 I got it and got in there and hit this 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.720 putt within fifteen second. I mean he knew, Claude, he 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.280 knew he was making that putt and it went. I 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.680 had a perfect angle up behind it. It went so 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.320 dead center with such perfect speed, and yeah, you know, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.640 beating Florida State is a really big deal in Gainesville, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.080 and I think as many people that are pumped that 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.520 we won the national championship, I think there's just as 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.680 many happy we took Florida State out there the way 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:17.040 we did. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.280 Were you out with Ricky for his final match? Were 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.280 you walking around with him? 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.040 I didn't walk. I was actually with I walked all 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.120 three matches with our freshman Matthew Kress, who's this a 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.880 big moment for him. He just started playing competitive golf 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.960 four years ago, so this is all new to him, 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.680 and so I was with him trying to help. He's 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.200 never really played on greens that firm, and of course 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.080 this difficult, so there was a lot of coaching and 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.880 stuff there. But I always Ricky's the one I always 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.400 get with them in those those really big moments like that. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.200 We've known each other for eleven years now, and he 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.600 just likes to bounce the idea off me. You know, hey, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.200 what do you think about this? In ninety nine percent 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.160 of the time the answers yes, go for it, commit 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.960 to it. What he's doing his golf, I ques through 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.920 the roof, and so I picked him up on sixteen, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.800 and I'm glad I went because he was pissed and 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.200 his mind was in the past. You know, I've blown this. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.560 I'm blowing this. This is my fault. I said, dude, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.920 you just need him to make one mistake, and happy 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.200 he happened to do it right there. The Brett blew 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.599 at chip by probably twenty feet, and Ricky had a 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.720 great bunker shot one sixteen and then literally hit one 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.200 of the best three woods I've ever seen in my 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.200 life to fifteen feet per eagle on the next hole, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.440 and then you know, the rest is history. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.640 So when I mean, I know what it's like when 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.880 I'm watching that you're up. You know, I'm not inside 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.520 the ropes, but you know I'm watching Brooks come down 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.120 the stretch. You're looking for that mistake, right, You're looking 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.320 for the mistake from the opponent. He's in the final 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.720 round with Vic. You don't want to root against Vic, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.720 but you're hoping that As a coach, you're hoping that 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.400 your player does something, and you're hoping that if a 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:59.520 mistake is made the player, especially in your in your case, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.679 your guy, you're hoping they rise to the moment yo, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:07.480 that that happened for Brooks. When you're out there, how 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.720 nervous because I know how nervous I am, right, I 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.520 mean I start walking around, I get really really nervous, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.160 and you know, it's not a lot of fun to 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.120 be around. And when you're out there as the coach, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.319 how nervous are you? And how do you kind of 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.079 because you've got to be nervous inside, but you can't 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.200 show that to your guys. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:33.240 Yeah. Well, at that SEC Championship, we were tied, tied 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.840 in two matches, tied in four. Well, we had two points, 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.160 did one point. We were tied in the other match 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:45.560 and John Dubois pard seventeen and they missed and I 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.880 remember we were all square with them walking from seventeen 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.800 Greed at Sea Island Seaside course UPD eighteen t. It's 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.360 a I don't know, a forty yard walk, and I 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.840 literally remember having to remind myself one foot in front 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.880 of the other. I thought I was going to I 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.680 had never felt like that my life. I've played golf 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.640 and competed my whole life. I've never felt like that, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.880 Like I could barely walk. I was so uncomfortably nervous. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.520 I didn't feel like that at the National Championship. For 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.320 some reason, it wasn't as bad as the secs. I 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.200 think it was just getting over the hump and finally 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.199 beating Bandy that I wanted so bad. But I did 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.760 a better job myself of just staying in the moment 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.800 and trying. Like you said, I've got to have an 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.240 unbelievable poker face whether we're up by five or down 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.480 by five. My players just got to know, hey, we're 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.440 in the moment. You got to hit a golf shot 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.240 right now, and you know, I try to do that 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.360 my best. But I'll tell you a quick good story 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.920 because I totally failed here. But so we're we have 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.439 two points and this is in the finals against Georgia Tech. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.600 We got two points and we need one more and 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.680 Fred Biondi and Ricky Castillio are both leading their match 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.200 one up, and I'm with Ricky back on the eighteenth 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.040 t and Ricky's literally in his range watching Fred in 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.520 the fairway hit the shots, and we knew that Georgia 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.120 tech hit had plugged it in the bunker. So literally, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.440 if Fred can hit this pitching wedge on the green, 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.040 it's probably over. So Ricky's looking, hey, coach, he took 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.760 it back. 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But again 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.920 in the say that you couldn't write this story, Fred 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.480 BEYONDI wins the individual national championship before you guys start 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.520 the rest of it. I mean, it's and then he 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.400 holds the winning pot, he's on the final green and everything. 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.240 I mean, what a player this kid is. He made 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.080 the decision today to turn pro. I know, obviously with 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:35.640 the new system the PGA Tour, you I think that's helping. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.120 I think that's a huge thing that the PGA Tour 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.520 has done. It's something that they should have done. I 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.240 think you'd agree with me. They should have done this 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.560 ten years ago. Yeah, they should have given the best 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:49.200 college players in America a step or put them halfway 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.640 up the ladder and give them, you know, a springboard 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.640 to succeed. Fred made the choice to turn pro. Was 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.360 it a difficult decision for him having just won the 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.560 individual title of having been on an ashal or was 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.480 this what you said, hey, you've done what you needed 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.200 to do. You're ready. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.000 Well, I think what made it difficult was winning that 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.480 tournament got him an exemption into the US Open and 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.360 the Master's. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.360 Next and the Masters next year. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.600 Ye and I think the Masters invite next April was 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.440 the hardest part for Fred to kind of look past. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.840 But look, he got a finance degree at Florida, he graduated, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.640 He gave us four years. He did have another year 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.800 that he could have used, but he's done everything you 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.400 could ever ask at the college level, and it was 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.400 just time. He's got a great agent, Tommy really he's 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.040 working with and they had a great plan. He's going 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.920 to get to play in twelve of the next thirteen 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.400 corn Firy Tour events. You know, he's all set to 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.880 go and chase his dreams as a pro. And he's 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.640 got some great people behind him supporting them. And it 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.280 was just it was it was done, and there was 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.880 no other decision to make. He's he doesn't need any 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.680 more development. He's a smart kid, he's calm, he's got 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.520 all the shots and I'm so pumped to watch him 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.760 from Afar. And you read what he wrote on Instagram. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.560 I mean, he's just what a family, what a young man, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.800 What a dream it was for me to coach him 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:12.320 for this long. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.240 I read that he promised you when he came to 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.639 Florida that he'd work hard and he'd do everything his 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.840 power to get you a couple of national championships, and 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:23.240 he got you one. When you recruited Fred, what did 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:28.080 you see? And watching him win a national championship as 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.880 an individual, but then being on the team was what 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.159 you saw when you recruited him. What he became. 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.439 I guess you always hope it's going to become this, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.320 but it certainly didn't start out like that. I liked Fred. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.480 Fred works with a really up and coming great coach 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.359 named Matt Dejon who's up in near your area there, Yes, Stuart, Matt. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.160 Matt's doing a great job. And I always liked Fred's technique. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.119 I thought he had really good control to face. But 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.040 I was actually recruiting another player who happened to be 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.000 paired with Fred that day as as a junior golfer, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.399 and he just striped it. I think Fred hit like 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.760 twelve fairways and seventeen greens that day that I was 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.359 watching him, like, man, he's small, and you know he 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.639 didn't hit that far, but holy smokes, he can hit 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.760 it straight and control his ball and flight it up 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.080 and down. So I like that. And then I got 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.400 to know him, got to know his coaches. I knew 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.760 he was getting great information, and Fred wanted to be 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.040 at Florida, so it's just a good mix. He wasn't 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.000 a big scholarship guy to start, and to be honest, 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.320 he's Fred's funny. He's got literally knows everyone in the 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.320 athletic department. He's a good looking kid. He had a 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.040 lot of fun his first two years at Florida, and 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.480 probably a little bit too much, and so we had 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.240 a little discussion about that. After his sophomore year he 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.520 had you know, he'd shot a sixty five here, sixty 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:50.400 six there. You'd seen some glimpses of it, but he'd 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.840 never put anything together. And then he really decided he 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.959 want to be a great player his third year. In 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.719 the last two years, he's been a first team All 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:02.080 American and now national champion, an individual as a team 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.400 SEC champion, as a team, he's he won five times. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.320 One of the one of the greatest players in the 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.440 history of the University of Florida. That's that's a pretty 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:09.800 big deal. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.480 I mean, given everybody that's going to the University of Florida, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.240 you know, that's playing on tour, that's a hell of 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:18.720 a statement. Ricky Castillio and I really like this kid. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.160 I mean I think I saw him hit some balls. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.000 Did he qualify for the covid Us Open that he 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.280 did win? Brice And I watched him. You know, he 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.320 was young, he's got you know, he's got the tight necklace, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.840 he's got a lot of swag, walks around like he's 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.520 like he's a baller, which I kind of like. I 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.760 watched him hit some balls, and you know, he's really impressive. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.520 He seems to be the type of kid that likes 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.919 the big moment and likes to rise to those occasions. 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.800 Yeah, Ricky's the ultimate competitor. That that's been the difficulty 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.560 these past four years is trying to harness that and 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.439 for him to understand how to use that energy. I 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.320 think a lot of time he struggled in his sophomore 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.159 in junior year, and a lot of that was just 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.280 him trying to figure out how to control all these 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.560 insane emotions he has. And he's still got some work 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.680