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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the sticks.

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Speaker 2: DJ Buck with you. Buck.

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Speaker 1: How's it going man, he's still in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I am making my way back.

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Speaker 3: I am in northern cal I'm aa drive down with

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Speaker 3: my son today to get back to LA.

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Speaker 2: So it should be fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, man, you're hitting. You're hitting all the spots here,

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Speaker 1: get tray back.

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Speaker 2: Hover all days, all over, all over, all over the spots.

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Speaker 2: So it should be uh, it should be pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: Uh nice, We're hit the game of the week here

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Speaker 1: in a minute. But there's a couple things I wanted

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Speaker 1: going to get another year at Vandy, another year of

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Speaker 1: college eligibility. There was a legal route that was taken,

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Speaker 1: and what was the result was JUCO years are not

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Speaker 1: all the impact Juco, but in the language of the ruling.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to an agent this morning about this,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm just saying like this, this could

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Speaker 3: Well, just let's just think about it in so many

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Speaker 3: So there are some jucos who operate like this. They

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Speaker 2: And it just changes the deal.

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Speaker 3: So now say you can spend three years in JUCO,

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Speaker 3: from a development standpoint on the field, DJ, I think

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Speaker 3: And look, I think there are a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about last chance you and the kids that

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Speaker 3: Now, I think it doesn't become just a haven for

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds and

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Speaker 2: How is that conversation?

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Speaker 3: Because those who don't know how contentious is robbery, just

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Speaker 1: I had my brother come out when I was when

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Speaker 1: Not on that day. On that day, that was always

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Speaker 3: So here's the thing about it, right, So we talk

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Speaker 3: To me, I love that, and I love that no

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see that.

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Speaker 3: And directly when I look at these two teams, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on Patrick queen Man. He'll

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Speaker 1: I think it's a slugfest. I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's why you brought him in for games like this,

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Speaker 1: ball games. But I also want to remind everybody you

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Speaker 1: going to be on Christmas Day and that is on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: So just a little little heads up here.

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Speaker 1: It's a quick turnaround, a quick turnaround for those teams

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Speaker 1: coming back on a Christmas Wednesday. But we'll have we

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Speaker 1: have Christmas Football Man, the poor NBA, the poor NBA man.

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Speaker 1: The ratings are down also and now the NFL just

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Speaker 1: came in and said, all right, we're going to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and take over Christmas now too.

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Speaker 3: Well, not only that, decide we're going to take over

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Speaker 3: to college football Playoff too.

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Speaker 2: We're the big king, We're taking it over.

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Speaker 3: Not only do they put games on the day that

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Speaker 3: you have the college Football Playoff, but you.

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Speaker 2: Got big must gas. Were you talking about this? Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I'll see this as a football jackie who just loves

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Speaker 3: watching it. Man, you know what I'm doing on my Saturday.

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Speaker 1: No question, football galore. It's gonna be a great football weekend.

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Speaker 1: I want to encourage you to check out tomorrow's podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will have my new coach. Upstate's new coach, dal

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Speaker 1: Loggins is going to join the show. I get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to him about the challenge that he's

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Speaker 1: getting himself into. A really good dude. I think you'll

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Speaker 1: enjoy that conversation. So check that one out tomorrow. We'll

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Speaker 1: see it here on Move the Sticks.