1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. If you've just put a new Toyota 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: or Alexis, your vehicle may need to have its engine replaced. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: The driver may first notice warning whites and shines, increased 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: engine noise and or smoke. Are they assuming that people 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: are that stupid? Hey, the car's on fire, that slims 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: under the hood. Well, I guess I'll stop now. Like 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: the car doctor, this is the problem with Volkswagen, all right. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: It's it's not that it's a bad car, it's the 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: parts that are attached to it to make it a 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: bad car. Because everything is difficult. Welcome to the radio 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: home of Ron and Anien, the car Doctors. This is 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: garage doors are open. But I am here to take 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: your qualt at eight five and now, Henny, I want 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about electric vehicles. And some 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: of this is in response to some of the well, 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: let's just say, people have been I would say just 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: not kind in reviewing me online from my comments about 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: electric But I want you to know where I'm coming from, 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to be open minded and unemotional as 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: opposed to some of you, and explain what it is 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Everybody thinks the electric vehicle is the 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: next coming, right, It's it's it's the it's the next 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Holy Grail, it's the Messiah. You know what it isn't 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: all right, You've got to really take a step back 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and look. If everybody that's driving an internal combustion engine 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: right now was driving an electric vehicle, we wouldn't be 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: able to produce enough vehicles. We wouldn't be able to 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: produce enough electricity, and the cost to produce that electricity 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: would create issues in the environment, just the way we're 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: claiming the internal combustion engine has. But we've got to 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: look at some of the things that are black and 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: white on paper, all right. You know recent article by 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Edmunds Edmunds dot com. They talked they start if what 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: if a gallon of gaso line cost three dollars at breakfast, 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: was free at lunch, eight dollars in the afternoon, but 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: only two dollars in the middle of the night. That's 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: the world of charging up plug in electric vehicles. If 41 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: you buy an electric car, the cost of a Philip 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: will largely depend on when and where you charge it 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: and what rate utility company offers. You know, we went 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: to the local supermarket, the big Wegmans whatever it is 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: over here in Montfield, New Jersey, not too long ago, 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: and big parking lot, and they're trying to get all 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: ready for the next generation of cars, and they've got 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: to electric car super you know, charging stations for plug 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: an electric. And I sat there and I looked at that, 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: and some people just saw that as two parking spaces 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: taken up where they could have put two conventional gas 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: powered cars. And I said, no, I said, what you're 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: seeing to myself, I said, is that the future will 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: be the entire parking lot will have to be gritted 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: and built to support electric vehicles because it'll be the 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: masses everything. You know, if if they had their way, 57 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: everything that's internal combustion would go electric, and everything that's 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: in that's electric would go you get My point would 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: be opposite of each other. What is all this going 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: to cost and where is that going to come from? 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: And that electric charging station that's there in the supermarket 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: parking lot or the donut shop or downtown Main Street. 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Who's paying for that electric Some say it's the supermarket, 64 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: some say it's the vehicle manufacturer, some say it's the town. 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Some I'm saying it's the utility company providing it for free. 66 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: No one can really give us a direct answer. It 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: seems like it's something we're ignoring, and I think that's 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: got to get addressed. There was another article I read 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: as I was doing my researched, called research folks, because 70 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: you want to deal with facts instead of emotion, that 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: the cost of electric vehicle batteries. Do you know where 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: the majority of electric vehicle battery material comes from? Probably 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: one of the greatest sources of it is the Congo 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: in Africa and the companies that worked there, according to 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: more than one report that I read, have a bad 76 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: treckerd bad track record of human rights, of how they 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: treat their workers and how they abuse people, and the 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: damage being done to the environment to retrieve the material 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: to make the batteries for the electric car. So you know, 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: is it the be all and end all? No? Do 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I think electric cars are bad? Oh? I think electric 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: cars are about ten percent of the marketplace. I read 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: a report a couple of years back, and maybe it's 84 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: changed by now, but they said that if ten percent 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: of the working fleet was an electric vehicle, then you 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: would see the price of fuel drop down under two 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: dollars a gallon, possibly under a dollar fifty agallon. And 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, you look at what things cost now, you 89 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: look at the cost of living. Wages have gone up 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, they haven't gone up as much 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: as everybody would like because we all want to be 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: a gazillionaire. As I get that. Who doesn't. That's human emotion. 93 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: But the fact is that in the current state and age, 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: unless there's some radical breakthroughs in technology, all electric vehicles 95 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 1: are not a direct replacement for every internal combustion vehicle 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: out there. It's just not gonna happen. And that's physics. 97 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: That's not Ron and Indian lending his voice to opposing it. 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: That's just you know, common sense, which, like someone once 99 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: told me not too long ago, isn't so common anymore. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: But just be aware of what you wish for, because 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: you know what, just because a car company makes it 102 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: doesn't make the car company right all right, and doesn't 103 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: make them knowing, all seeing, all telling, all being all 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: um it doesn't. It doesn't work like that. And if 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: you've got an opinion about an electric vehicle, and I 106 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: mean that's an all sincerity, call me zero. Send me 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: an email Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. But 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: be aware, I'm gonna ask you to defend your argument. 109 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: And if you send me an email, I'm gonna ask 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: for your permission to read it up here on air, 111 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: because I think we all need to look at this. 112 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm willing to learn. I hope you are too. Let's 113 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: get over to the phones. Let's get over and talk 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: to where we going. Let's go over to Gary and 115 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Wiscon two thousand g MCCRF noisy and four wheel drive. Gary. 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Well, 117 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: I've got I've got this twenty year old c er 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, is a hundred and eighty five thousand 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: miles on it. Okay, wait for it, wait for just 120 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: broken in. Go ahead, brother, I want to go to 121 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: save well just you know how we get down to 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: the good stuff. Um, So what is it? When you 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: put it in four wheel drive? It makes noise. When 124 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: I put it in four wheel drive, it it growls 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: or wines. I'm not sure, and and as you know, 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about going straight. When going straight it even drags. 127 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: It slows down quite a bit. It takes more power 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: to even get it to move. So I shifted back 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: into two wheel drive, and then all the complaints go away? Right? 130 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Any dash warning lights on any check engine line, any 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: other dash lights? No? I have? Oy? Do you drive 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: this truck all the time? Gary? Or is this uh 133 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, an occasional drive or what's what's the Yeah, 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: it's more of occasional okay? Uh? You know, has anybody 135 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: tried any kind of diagnosis here? Looking at I? Did? 136 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I should go a step farther if I may. I 137 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: drained the transfer case and the front differential so I 138 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: could stick my little magnet in the holes to see 139 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: if there's debris or steel. Yeah, did you get anything? Okay? 140 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, you filled it back up with fresh fluid. 141 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm hoping all right. So we're we're likely somewhere between 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: transfer case in front if one or the other, you know, 143 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: on the weird chance that it's a front drive shaft, 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: and I guess it's always possible, you know, it wouldn't 145 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: hurt too well. Here's what I would do if this 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: were at the shop. What I would do is I 147 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: would get it up in the air. I would position 148 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: it on a lift could insecure, and have someone drive 149 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: it at what speeds do you begin to hear the noise? Hundred? 150 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would imagine is safe a safe 151 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: speed for a lift. I would get it up in 152 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: the air, have someone driving at twenty miles an hour, 153 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: and I would listen A mechanic stethoscope is twenty bucks. 154 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I listened to all four wheel bearings just because you can. 155 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: And you know, even though I don't think it's that, 156 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: but at a eighty thousand miles twenty years old, everything, 157 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: everything's got a reason to howl and scream. At this age, 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I've earned the right to hell and scream every morning 159 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: I get up, uh, you know, and sometimes that's just 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: the way it is. And once I got out of that, 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: I would pay careful attention to the front def and 162 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: then listen at the transfer case. Now understand, this is 163 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: a very mechanical type of vehicle in terms of the truck. 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: You know this is this is this is a truck truck. 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: This wasn't something that you know, is is you know, 166 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: kind of poofy with cup holders and you know, seat 167 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: warmers and you know this is this is back, very mechanical. 168 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: So there there was there were some noises here, but 169 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, a growling noise. You've owned the truck since 170 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: new no, no, I've only had it probably four years. Okay, 171 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: did it make the noise when you first got it? 172 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: All right? So the noise, it's something that's accumulated. And 173 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: that's how I would break it down. You know, does 174 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: it does it? Does it make the noise? You know, 175 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: with and without? And then if the noise is hard 176 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: to diminish that way, pull the front drive shaft, pull 177 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: the front pull the front drive shaft, driving on that 178 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: lift again. When you put it in four wheel drive, 179 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: the transfer case is going to go into four wheel drive. 180 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: If the noise is still there, it's transfer case. If 181 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: the noise isn't there, then it's somewhere. Front axle. My 182 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: my guess is what I see more failures? What's more common? 183 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: I see more front axles be an issue the carrier 184 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: bearing spin in the housing, um, you know, and they'll 185 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: they'll they'll grind in and you won't necessarily get any 186 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: metal out of it, but it will be noisy as heck, 187 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: there's a there's a front go ahead, the front, the 188 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: front differential. It does leak right from the axle seals. 189 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: So there is a product out there, and I have 190 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: no mechanical explanation as to why this works, so I'm 191 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna state that right up front, but it's something I 192 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: stumbled across that did prove itself. There's a product out 193 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: there from a company called Lucas Oil l u c 194 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: A s Oil, Lucas Oil white bottle, blue and red print, 195 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: and it's a product called hub oil h ub oil 196 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: and I have had some really good success and it 197 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: seems to be a GM front iff thing that we 198 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: get a noisy front iff. You listen to it, it's 199 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: it's it's louder than normal, but the bearings aren't necessarily screaming, 200 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: winding bad. It's just noisy. We drain well, we'll change 201 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: all the fluid, will drain all the fluid out, and 202 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: we'll add it comes in a court bottle, will add 203 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: about a point, we'll put a point to huboil in. 204 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: We'll fill up the rest with the correct oil is 205 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: GM prescribes noise goes away, and you know the price 206 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: of a bottle of oil seems to solve it, and 207 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: we've got vehicles out there to three four years later 208 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: not making any noise. I don't I don't have an explanation. 209 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I haven't taken one apart yet because I haven't had 210 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: one fail come back where it's making the noise again 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: where a component fell out. Uh you know, do I 212 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: have a bearing that's borderline approaching rough? Do I have 213 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: something else failing that? I there's no logical reason why 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: huboil would solve it. It It is a very thick oil 215 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: it is. It just seems to be a noise dampening 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: type of liquid in a sense that the noises go away. 217 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: So you can try that. I'm sure you can find 218 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: that at your local Rallioto parts and uh you know, 219 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: or anywhere online Rallia dot com that type of Thingum, 220 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: but you can try that, but that's only if your 221 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: noise is from the front tiff and to do that, 222 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna go through that. Like I said, pull the 223 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: drive shift and uh diagnosed from there. Gary appreciate the call. 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Keep on truck and let me know when the truck 225 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: gets to two eight, because I bet you it ken 226 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that'll be in another ten years. I'll still be here 227 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: zero nine zero the car doctors coming back right after this. 228 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: He drives that way. But when it comes to fixing cars, 229 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Ron has card advice done right eight five five five 230 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Here's Ron. You know, Mikey, pick 231 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: up the mic. Pick up the micro real quick. So 232 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: Mike and I were talking during the break about electric vehicles. 233 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Would you tell everybody Mikey's in business school, um with 234 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: the conversation this week was about electric vehicles. Relay that 235 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: to everybody. Yeah. So we were having a conversation on 236 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: electric vehicles and our professor asked if anyone drives. One 237 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: one of the girls in my class raised her hand 238 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: and she basically said she hates it for for a 239 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: variety of reasons. Uh So, my professor countered one of 240 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: her sasons with aren't there charging stations that she can 241 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: plug her car into? Mainly we have few a few 242 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: into school parking lot, And she said the problem with 243 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: that is is so many people don't really take care 244 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: of the plugs and the connectors that you're supposed to 245 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: put in your car that the charging station either a 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: doesn't work or she's been in a situation where she's 247 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: plugged in into her car came back and the plug 248 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: actually got stuck into her car when she removed the 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: tube or whatever, and she had to get that fixed 250 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: and pulled out of her car, and god knows how 251 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: much that was. So you know, what you're telling me 252 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: is the people aren't putting the plugs back. They lay 253 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: on the ground. People run over them and damage them, 254 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: once again proving that, you know, people are going to 255 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: stand in the way of technology just by their carelessness 256 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: and stupidity. Basically, yeah, basically, so um yeah, I'm telling 257 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: you electric vehicles are not the be all and end all. 258 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's, it's, it's it's. It's a reasonable start, 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,119 Speaker 1: but let's not put it up there on a pedestal. Lorraine, Wisconsin, 260 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: thirteen Chevy and Pella, how can I help run anading 261 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: the car? Doctor? Right, your service, I've been having and control. Okay, 262 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: he'd be sitting at a stop sign or light and 263 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it'll slip or whirl and then 264 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: or even just sitting there with the brake on, waiting 265 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: for the light to change, and all of a sudden 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: starts blinking on the panel and whistles going off and 267 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: everything it's just a noise you know at link link 268 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: link and uh, and then when I try and take off, 269 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: it'll slip just a couple of times. So and we've 270 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: been having that trouble with the last month or two. 271 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: We just had it the shop with putting new brakes, pads, 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: calip and everything. We all complete system of the brakes 273 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: and I had even a rotor that was not a 274 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: rotor but tyrode that was a replaced and I thought, well, 275 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: maybe with the brakes being fixed, something would have It 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: would have had something to do with the traction. But 277 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: it didn't do. It didn't correct. So we've been taking 278 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: it off now, hitting the contracts, the traction control button off. 279 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to know, make sure that it's 280 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: not gonna give me some problem I'm driving down the 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: road or something and I'm gonna, you know, something's going 282 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: to happen in the car while I'm driving, or if 283 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: it's just if we have to really be concerned about this, 284 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: or well if it's if it's off all right and 285 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: the problem is not there, then you shouldn't have an issue. 286 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Off is off and once it's there, uh, you know, 287 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't have the ability to turn itself on. 288 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about how abs and traction control works. Okay, 289 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: so you've got four wheels on the car, right, They've 290 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: they've got a sensor at the corner of each wheel. 291 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: By definition of the name anti lock break, anti lock 292 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: break means that as you slow down, you've got your 293 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: foot on the brake. The onboard computer, the anti lock 294 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: break computer, as it senses right, because it can't see 295 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: the sphenometer, it doesn't know how fast Lorraine's going. It 296 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: reads sensors to to record vehicle speed as it sees 297 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: equal all input from all four censors. It says, hey, 298 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the cars stopping on a nice straight, dry road, and 299 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let the brakes do their thing and 300 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: and work like they normally would. If it sees if 301 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: if the car is driving down the road and three 302 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: of the sensors are reporting twenty miles an hour and 303 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: one sensor is reporting fifteen miles an hour because it's 304 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: slowing down at a different rate, the computer interprets that 305 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: as lock up, meaning that one wheel is on ice 306 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: or gravel or some some substance other than the other three, 307 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: and it tries to pulse the brake or control the 308 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: brake to prevent the vehicle from going into a slot. 309 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Are you with me? Okay? So how does it know this? 310 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: How does it do this? There are usually and I 311 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: believe in thirteen this is what it was, a toothed ring. 312 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: You ever see the top of a castle in the 313 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: medieval times movies? Right? How it's got the turrets, you know, 314 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: a square not to square, not to square, notch or right, 315 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: So they put it. They put a sensor over the 316 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: square notch that reads high low high low, high low, 317 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: and the computer can count how many times each square 318 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: notch passes under the sensor and that then it does 319 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the math and calculates that this sensor is traveling at 320 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: twenty eight miles an hour. The sensor is traveling at 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight miles an hour, and and and and so on. 322 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: So that being said, what goes wrong? All right? I 323 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: have seen cases of the tone ring rusting and corroding 324 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: as they age and they fail. And I've seen cases 325 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: of the tone ring, you know, the the top turret 326 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: of the castle having debris or Schmutz technical term jammed 327 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: in them, and that affects how well the sensor can 328 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: read that notch, and that affects A B S operation. 329 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: I've also seen cases of just plain bad sensors, all right, 330 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: so that's not impossible. So that's the A B S 331 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: side of this. The fact that it's doing it when 332 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: you're pulling away from a stop sign, that's traction control. 333 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Traction control reads it the other way. It sees Lorraine 334 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: stepping hard on the gas pedal like she's trying to 335 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: do a burnout, a quick pull away from the stop sign, 336 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: and it sees faster acceleration from one wheel than the other. 337 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I think somebody's got a scan codes be pay attention 338 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: to wheel speed and see, well they disabled the system. 339 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: The problem goes away. The problems somewhere in one of 340 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: the four wheel speed sensors. Get those diagnosed, looked at carefully. 341 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Called me back, I'm needing the car doctor. We are 342 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: returning right after this. Hey, welcome back. When I nay 343 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. Moving the day along, Let's get 344 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: out to Will in Cincinnati. Is that with some questions 345 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: about the center break light? Will? Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 346 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Ron? How are you love 347 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: the show? Thank you? Thank you, sir? What's going on? Hey, 348 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: So I just had a question. I commute a lot 349 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: for work, and something that I've noticed a lot lately 350 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: on the highways is different vehicles with the flashing center 351 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: a mount break light to the third break light flashes. 352 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: And my question is I've noticed it and not even 353 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: being consistent from make to make or model to model. 354 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I was behind two different Corollas the other day and 355 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: one had the kind of pulsing break light and one didn't. 356 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: So I didn't know if that was like a dealer 357 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: installed thing, or if it's a state to state thing, 358 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: or if the consumers putting that on themselves. Do you 359 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: know anything about that? I gotta tell you, I have 360 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: never seen a center break light that flashes. It. It 361 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: comes on, it stays on, We're done. OK. So I've 362 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: got to think maybe that's an aftermarket installed accessory, or 363 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that's you know, somebody's tuning their car and doing what 364 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: they want with it. God God help them if they 365 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: live in Sacramento County, California, because you can't do that 366 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: kind of stuff out there anymore. Um, you know, you 367 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: can't work on your own car. I wonder if that 368 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: would be against the lawn Sacramento County California. I'm just 369 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, you know, we covered that last week. 370 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: You just I don't know, Well you the way you 371 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: said that, it just kind of struck a nerve in 372 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: my mind. I said, does that mean we can't change 373 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: light bulbs and cars in California? Um? Yeah, well that's 374 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that's the way it's going. You know, I'll have to 375 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: pay more attention. Not that I don't, but um, I 376 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: have not seen that. If anybody out else out there 377 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: is noticing third break lights not being just an on 378 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: off type of light, if anybody else notices it, by 379 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: all means, give us a call. Uh. Yeah. I didn't 380 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: know if it was like a an attempt to you know, 381 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: occurb the distracted drivers or anything like that, if there 382 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: was something that manufacturers were doing. But I've seen it 383 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: a lot lately and and and especially in my area 384 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: like southern Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, and if if anything, I've 385 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: got to think that, you know, it's more of a distraction, right, 386 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the third break lights should go on and stay on 387 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: instead of flashing going off on and off, on and off. Uh. 388 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, I would think that's that's a bigger, bigger distraction. 389 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So hey, well, I appreciate the input, and if you 390 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: notice a trend, if you come up with better ranswers, 391 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: by all means, give us a call back. All right, 392 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, thanks n You're very welcome. You have 393 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: a good rist of the day. Let's go over to 394 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: Peter in Maine. Seventeen GMC. Yes, Peter, what's going on? Yes, 395 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for being there. Two three quarter 396 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: ton old train hd uh with a full wheel drive? 397 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: Wine high, high pitched wine. Okay, um, how many miles 398 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: around the truck? Not that it matters, but a wind 399 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: on anybody tried to diagnosis? Can you get this on 400 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: a rack and listen to it up in the air? 401 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: Not okay, because that's you know, that's the next step. 402 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: Listen all In my opinion my experience, all four wheel 403 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: drives will wind to some degree. You know, we just 404 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: had a call on from someone that had a two 405 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 1: thousand g mcc era that had a wine in it 406 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: or a growl, and it was his terminology. And you know, 407 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: his growl could be the equivalent of your wine, could 408 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: be the equivalent of my wine that you know, everybody's 409 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: got a different interpretation. That's the hard part about doing 410 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: this here on radio. But my my, my point becomes 411 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: that A it's got to be heard up in the air, 412 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: all right, and listen to on the lift while you're driving. 413 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Is the noise at all speeds? Is it? Is it 414 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: twenty miles an hour, fifty miles an hour? So you know, 415 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: if we get it on a rack at twenty miles 416 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: an hour, like I told the previous caller, if we 417 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: listen to the transfer cases, the noise there, uh is 418 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: the noise in the front if if we can't tell 419 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: the difference, and we pull the front drive shaft and 420 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the vehicles should operate without the front shaft at least 421 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: the transfer case should turn um depending upon maybe it 422 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: might need inputs on the seventeen to engage the transfer case. 423 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at circuitry to see how that works. 424 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: But if we can get away with it, if we 425 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: pull the shaft and just let it, let it, you know, 426 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: operate without just with the transfer case by itself, if 427 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: the noise is gone, then we know it's in the 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: front actle if we can't determine it. If it isn't, 429 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: then we know it's in the transfer case. But again, 430 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: you know how big is the noise in comparison to 431 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a certain amount of noise in 432 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: the four wheel drive. I've never seen a pick up 433 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: or a you know, an suv that was stone quiet. 434 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: It's just not It's is the nature of the beast. Uh, 435 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know too Before this same thing 436 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: three quarter you could hear a slight wine, but very 437 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: very little. I mean you had to even know that, right, 438 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: this one's this one's louder, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, 439 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: then now just for giggles and I there's no logical 440 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: reason why it would work this way, but I have experienced, 441 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: so you know, some of the show is based on 442 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: my experiences. A lot of the show is based on 443 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: my experiences. What am I saying that? Uh, you know, 444 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: put a four wheel drive in four wheel drive and 445 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: the tires make noise. I don't have a logical reason. 446 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm rolling down the road at moderate load. It's not 447 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: like I've really got my foot in it. But sometimes 448 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: that that locking the four axles together, the two axles together, 449 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: We'll put more of a load on the tire and 450 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: create a wine that way. So it's another reason to 451 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: drive it up in the air. Always remember when you're 452 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: trying to diagnose something, tell me what's good and change 453 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: the state of how the vehicle is operating in you know. 454 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: So if it doesn't on the ground at twenty miles, 455 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: if I put it up in the air, does it 456 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: still wine? If I stopped the front from turning, does 457 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: it still wine? You know? If it does, it does. 458 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, at least I know where I've got 459 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: to go. All right, Have you heard anything about this 460 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: being programmable? Programmable in what way? Well? I've heard other 461 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: people say that they've taken uh, denialis back and they 462 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: programmed the transfer case somehow different ways to clutch backs 463 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: or whatever electronically and and took the noise right away. Well, 464 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that. I've heard of programming for the 465 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: transfer case to determine when the clutches will engage, and 466 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: I've had that experience directly. But I have not heard 467 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: this as Hey, I took it in for a wine 468 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: and programming fixed it, not saying it can't. There's there's 469 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: a bolton out there for everything today, it seems, uh, 470 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, listen, my wife's cars over at the Ford dealer, 471 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: been there a week, Uh, they try programming the radio 472 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: and the map system for lock up, it hasn't. They 473 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: put loaded the software, the software it didn't load. And 474 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: right now, from what I understand, it's over at Ford Engineering. 475 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Ford's trying to figure out why the programming didn't work. 476 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I would have never believed thirty 477 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: years ago that a car would be disabled for programming 478 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: for a map and radio. But so I'm not gonna 479 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: say I don't just believe that it can't be there 480 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: for a wine that could you know, be done by 481 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: programming as well. It's all possible. Yeah, it's it's it's 482 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: it's all you know. It makes the future of auto 483 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: repair exciting and challenging all at the same time. So 484 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just a great time to 485 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: be involved in it. All right, Thank thank you very much. 486 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You take good care. Let's let's 487 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: pull over and take the pause and then we'll come 488 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: back to David and Io who's got a comment about 489 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: electric vehicles. I love you for calling in. David, stay 490 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: right there. I'm running any of the car Doctor. We'll 491 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Welcome back. We're eating the 492 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: car Doctor. Here at eighty five by six zero zero 493 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor phone number. Call leave a message. If 494 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: we're not on the air, we'll get back to you. 495 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to David and Iowa. David, 496 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: Welcome back, brother Dave. How are you today? Hey? How 497 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: are you doing that? Ryan? Good? Sir? What's going on? 498 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: How do we all got there? So? Sound good? Okay? 499 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Do you hear me better? Okay? Anyway, I was just 500 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, you were talking earlier about how we're gonna 501 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: figure out how to get these cars, uh, you know, 502 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: with the power or the electric stuff and all that stuff. Well, 503 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, I was just thinking out here in Ohio, 504 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: we we've got a one of those big fans, you know, 505 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: about every mile, so I've never seen so many. I mean, 506 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: if we had a sale on the back of the car, 507 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: we could just pay them and propel us. But anyway, 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I wonder why you think that might have something to 509 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: do with the future of the automobile as far as 510 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: electrical guidance on the highways, whether they put a cable 511 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: down or whether we computerize ourselves where we want to go. 512 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: And we just punched in, jump in and we're gone. Yeah, 513 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: and you're talking about self driving cars, and you know, 514 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: it's all the stuff we see on TV and the 515 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: Jetsons and the World's Fair in New York in nineteen 516 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: sixty four, and you know the future and the future 517 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: is going to be electric vehicles. Will it work? Yeah? 518 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess in a perfect world. You know what Star 519 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: Trek works on TV. It's a perfect world, right, it's 520 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: a's and I said it all seriousness, Star Trek works. 521 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no squabbling among the humans 522 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: on Earth. They're out fighting the rest of the universe. 523 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: But it's three years from now. Everybody's done being angry 524 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: at everybody, and everybody's trying to impose their will upon everybody. 525 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: And uh, you know it's like live and let live, 526 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: which is the way it's supposed to work. Could we 527 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, I guess. Listen. As as Mike, my 528 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: board operator, pointed out before he's telling stories about in 529 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: his college class that he's got students there talking about 530 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: how they plugged their electric vehicle in and the plug 531 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: is deformed because when the last person used it, they 532 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: didn't coil it and put it away, and the plug 533 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: got run over by a car in the park. A lot, 534 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and you know, people get in the way of technology. 535 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I know, if we're gonna have to have a quart 536 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: or not, you know, with with the technology that's coming 537 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: up and maybe something that nuclear I you know, I 538 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: don't know, it may become so common and so quickly 539 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: that I don't know if we want to put nuclear 540 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: cars in the hands of the public. David, I kind 541 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: of think we've got to stop it there, because people 542 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: can't handle gasoline, and they definitely can barely handle electric. 543 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: We put a nuclear vehicle in the hands of somebody, Um, 544 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: I think that's yeah. I think, well, I think you 545 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: and I will see it, Junior. We may be an 546 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: old you know, around in a rocking chair or something, 547 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: but I think we're going to be able to see it. 548 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's just going too fast. I will, 549 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: I will, I will tell you this, and I think 550 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: we'll stop it there. If watch the movie The Martian 551 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: with Matt Damon, all right, great movie, and if you 552 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: notice he's driving around Mars in an electric powered, solar 553 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: powered vehicle. And I look at that movie. It's that movie. 554 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: And the neat thing about that movie is it's it's 555 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: very real in terms of its applicable technology from today. 556 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: In that movie. That movie, first person I thought of 557 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: was Tesla electric vehicles, solar powered vehicles, self driving vehicles. 558 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: It's all there. You know, that's where I think we're headed. 559 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: How well and how fast we're gonna get there. I 560 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: gotta remember this, big oil still runs the country, Big 561 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: oil still runs the world. And you know, everybody can 562 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: scream electric car, electric car, electric car. You know, we 563 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: still need the material to make the batteries. We still 564 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: need the material to make the car. We need the infrastructure, 565 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: we need the connectors, we need the plugs, we need 566 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: public acceptance. And even at best, it's gonna take a 567 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: lot of change over in turnover. We can't even agree 568 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: on who we want to be president in this country 569 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: after four years of the guy being elected. So you know, 570 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how we're going to pick an electric car. 571 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: That's a whole another conversation, David is always I appreciate 572 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: the conversation. I enjoy it each and every time. Wendy 573 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin, Oh, wait, four escape? How can I help go? Yes, ma'am, well, 574 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: my daughter has I believe it's a two eight Ford escape? 575 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: It is an escape, Okay, And it stops. It won't start. 576 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Every once in a while it just won't start. She's 577 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: had it into three different dealerships or reputable shops and 578 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: they put it on the machine and it's everything is 579 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: supposedly fine. Sometimes they'll they'll put an extra little charge 580 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: on the battery and say, oh yeah, it'll be fine, 581 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: and then it's not, sometimes the very next day, sometimes 582 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: a couple of days later. Um, So she has to 583 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: carry around one of those jump start machines for herself 584 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: because she's got to get to work, she's got to 585 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: pay the bills. So, UM, don't know what to do? 586 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I think, well, I think something is short circuiting. And um, 587 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: she does have one of those um remote starts, but 588 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: she does not use it. But we can't get it removed. 589 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: They tell us, I don't know what to do. So 590 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: do you think this is a dead battery. No, she 591 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: changed out the battery twice since she got the car. Well, 592 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: and when I say that, I mean she's only had 593 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: a six months. Okay, So when she goes to start 594 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: the car, she turns the key to the on position. 595 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: There's no dash lights. Correct. Oh boy, that's a good question. 596 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: I think. Here's here's the questions we're gonna you're gonna 597 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: ask your daughter if you get affair. And if you 598 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: want to hear this again, if you tune into car 599 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com, the podcast will be up. Or 600 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: you can go to I heeart dot com, I Heart 601 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Radio and the podcast will be there within the hour 602 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: and go to the second hour your tail. End of 603 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: the second hour, you can hear this conversation again. Does 604 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: she have dash lights? If she has If she has 605 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: dash lights, you know how good, how bright? So the 606 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: next time this goes into a no start, it would 607 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: be wonderful if somebody could take a volt meter and 608 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: measure the voltage of the battery and when they measure it, 609 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: touch the center of the top posts of the battery. 610 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Don't grab the clamps, grab just touched the posts, all right, 611 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: because I want to see does the battery have twelve 612 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: volts in the center and then twelve volts at the cables? 613 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: In effect, could we have an intermittent dirty connection at 614 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: one of the battery cables? And that's something to think about. 615 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: But even change well, and again I'm just basics, right, 616 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just want to give you the 617 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: basics and the possibilities I'd also like somebody to just 618 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: do a visual inspection of both battery cables and voltage 619 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: drop test. Voltage drop test the ground and the positive side, 620 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: the feed to the chassis ground the feed to the battery. 621 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where I think the problem is. At 622 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the ignition switch. There is a white orange wire and 623 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: a blue white wire. One's power in, one's power out. 624 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: They have known problems with the ignition switch. They have 625 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: known problems with the connector leading to the ignition switch. 626 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: I'd like somebody to find the white orange at the 627 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: ignition switch wire in a small bulb, so the next 628 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: time it happens, if she turns the switch on, does 629 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: that bulb light up? If that bulb, if that bulb 630 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: lights up, that tells us its power coming in. And 631 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: it's probably the connector leading up to the switch. If 632 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: the bulb lights up and it still doesn't work, move 633 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: the bulb to the other wire. If you move the 634 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: bulb to the blue white, does that not light up? 635 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, it's a bad ignition switch. And 636 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Of the time, some good diagnosis. 637 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: I wish you well call me back if you need more. 638 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Run anating the Car Doctor returning right after this Welcome 639 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: back r an car Doctor. Quick piece of email, Hey Ron, 640 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: this is from Eric. Hey Ron, or the outies as 641 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: bad as the Volkswagons as far as fixing. I appreciate 642 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: the show and I appreciate an answer. Um, you know, Eric, 643 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: it's not that they're bad to find bad right there, 644 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: they're they're expensive. Um, and that's you know, that's the killer. 645 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: That's that's the issue. Uh, that that we um that 646 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: you have to be aware of. So you know, just 647 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: be aware you're buying one, You're you're gonna pay for it. 648 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: And why are you guys laughing so hard? Who do 649 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: we have online? Who we have this? Who's here online? One? 650 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: Who is this is? It's Melissa Melissa? Dr Melissa, Dr Melissa, 651 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time with us today. This is 652 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: Mike's girlfriend, our board operator. UM. And I just had 653 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to call somebody in the family and make them aware. 654 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: Do you know how bad that wheelbaring was on his car? 655 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I had no idea until today. He just 656 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: told me that you had mentioned to him that. Um, 657 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: he should have spoken to his mother or myself so 658 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: that I can so so I'll put it in medical terms. 659 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: You know how the bone goes into your shoulder socket 660 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: and it rotates freely. His wheel bearing had arthritis, and 661 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: even her Cordison shot went to fix that. The wheel 662 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: was turning. The bearing was turning blue and purple because 663 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: it was so stressed out and it was about to 664 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: fall out and he would have lost the wheel. So, 665 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, thank God he's got you someone with common sense. 666 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: You gotta stay on top of him. We love him 667 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: here too much. He's doing a great job and we 668 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: want to take care of him, so please take care 669 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: of him for us. All right, Thanks Melissa, I'm running 670 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: any of the card doctor. Thanks for stopping by today 671 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: Until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, but they're priceless.