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Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Jason McIntyre ready to go for the next
Speaker 1: three hours, our first show together. Dude, man, how are
Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah? It never worked with this guy before. People.
Speaker 1: If it goes poorly, it's so but I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: I know Jason's work obviously, long time Fox Sports Radio superstar.
Speaker 1: You're just trying to live in your world, Mint, Okay,
Speaker 1: so if you live in Okay. So we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the Knicks a lot, right because Hey, because finally,
Speaker 1: for like the first time in like a thousand years,
Speaker 1: and Knicks are good. Right, It's a really big thing
Speaker 1: for me. I'm very happy right now. Yeah, well, fan,
Speaker 1: the last time they were good was the Jeremy Lynn era.
Speaker 1: I refused to call it the Carmelo Anthony era. And
Speaker 1: it's been a minute, you know, so I'm right there
Speaker 1: with you. The first basketball game I were attended. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget it. Madison Square Garden nineteen eighty five, Lakers
Speaker 1: Knicks first game I ever attended as a young guy,
Speaker 1: and I just fell in love with both team. So
Speaker 1: I became a weird Lakers Knicks fan, the only one
Speaker 1: on the planet probably, Wow, that is really weird. It
Speaker 1: was like whichever team was doing well at the time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll bet, but you hit it right in the middle,
Speaker 1: like the Knicks were just starting to get Yeah, you
Speaker 1: saw a lot. You was how many Hall of Famers
Speaker 1: were in that game. You must have seen Magic Jabbar.
Speaker 1: My dad was a big Jabbar fan. Patrick Ewing, those
Speaker 1: were like the Big Three. James Worthy obviously was on
Speaker 1: the team as well. But yeah, it was a good
Speaker 1: time to be an NBA fan. And you know, I
Speaker 1: have a feeling we're gonna talk a little nostalgia and
Speaker 1: the NBA later in the show. People at Adjacent Just
Speaker 1: to preface it, people on social media are so angry
Speaker 1: with me. What else is new for this? Reggie Miller's stuff,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to later. The hasiography of Reggie Miller
Speaker 1: is a little bit over the top end. Of course,
Speaker 1: he's taken a shot at the current young guys, which
Speaker 1: is all these old boomers want to do these days. Jason,
Speaker 1: I'm getting sick of it all right. Wait, hay On
Speaker 1: a saying I gotta look up hanging hay geography. Hang On,
Speaker 1: I gotta look at what that means. Hanging on that means. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought i'd dropped like a nine dollars
Speaker 1: vocab word the opening segment, just to remind people who
Speaker 1: they're dealing with here. That wasn't radio. That was a
Speaker 1: pretty good word to drop. And I dig that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like you must have gotten like a like a
Speaker 1: perfect score in your SAT on the verbal plot. I
Speaker 1: think I got like a nine hundred or something like
Speaker 1: that when it was up to sixteen hundred or when
Speaker 1: it was like the new one, no car that, Jason,
Speaker 1: I was. I was a kind of kid who decided, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should probably work my butt off in journalism as
Speaker 1: opposed to try to get good grades in high school
Speaker 1: and college. But I was on the AB honor roll
Speaker 1: in seventh grade, so I will I will put that on,
Speaker 1: you know, my tombstone, and I think it's not on
Speaker 1: your Twitter profile. Seventh grade. I love that one off.
Speaker 1: Actually all ye, yes, we will definitely get to that
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller take. That is an awesome story. We'll get
Speaker 1: that coming up. I'll probably top of next hour, But
Speaker 1: right now, we got to start with the latest from
Speaker 1: the NBA. Will to Steph Curry in a couple of
Speaker 1: seconds as everybody waiting with bated breadth for the result
Speaker 1: of the MRI of Nuggets star point guard Jamal Murray,
Speaker 1: who went down in immediate pain after he heard his
Speaker 1: left knee driving to the basket last night in the
Speaker 1: last minute of the Warriors win over the Nuggets. And
Speaker 1: it was really difficult. It was a play where he
Speaker 1: was going in for hoop. They were down seven. He
Speaker 1: comes down on his left leg and it immediately crumples.
Speaker 1: And here's how it sounded. Rebound down at Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: less than a minute ago. Three pointer would be nice.
Speaker 1: Murray right to the rack, gets hammered and he'll go
Speaker 1: to They're just gonna say he lost that. That's a
Speaker 1: challe hurt. Jamal's hurt and his left knee and he
Speaker 1: is in severe amount of pain. This is a worst
Speaker 1: case scenario sports fans there. It is. Nuggets Radio Network
Speaker 1: Mike Malone came out to check on Murray right after.
Speaker 1: They brought out a wheelchair. He was able to get
Speaker 1: off the court, but could put no pressure on his leg.
Speaker 1: Malone said after the game, the locker room is incredibly
Speaker 1: down right now, there's no answer. Will wait for the imaging,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, Jay, this is the Nuggets
Speaker 1: team where I remember seeing that, you know, in the
Speaker 1: bubble into the playoffs last year, and I said many
Speaker 1: times the era of the Jazz and the Nuggets in
Speaker 1: the West is coming, all right. They got young players
Speaker 1: that have locked in. They're locked in for a few
Speaker 1: years and their era is coming. There two terrific teams
Speaker 1: and here come the Nuggets who have been playing extremely well.
Speaker 1: But if something happens, they lose Jamal Murray. I don't
Speaker 1: know where they go from here. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: it's such a huge blow, devastating for the Nuggets. And
Speaker 1: you know, Jason, I had said on I have this
Speaker 1: podcast straight Fire on iHeart and I had said a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago after the Aaron Gordon trade that
Speaker 1: the Nuggets were the best team in the West. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously Lebron and a d are not healthy, but you
Speaker 1: look at that Nuggets team and how they played after
Speaker 1: getting Aaron Gordon, and this team was stacked. I mean
Speaker 1: they were just torching teams. Murray. Of course, we know
Speaker 1: how heroic he was in the bubble. That series he
Speaker 1: had against Utah when they were down three one one
Speaker 1: of the most heroic series I've seen in a while
Speaker 1: from a player two games over where he dropped fifty
Speaker 1: points three over forty. I feel awful for Denver right now.
Speaker 1: This is just terrible news, very sad to start the
Speaker 1: show with. Yeah. Now, hopefully it's something where it could
Speaker 1: be just a hyper extension and it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a couple of weeks or a few weeks and
Speaker 1: he's back for the playoffs, but all of those non
Speaker 1: contact things that happen, you just hold your breath and wondering.
Speaker 1: He just means so much to this team, you know,
Speaker 1: as good as Yokich has been playing, and he's become
Speaker 1: a dark horse MVP candidate, well, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the one of one hundred and fifty guys in the
Speaker 1: MVP candidate. You know, right now, Yokis is thirteams now
Speaker 1: he's six, now he's seven, and he's been terrific. But man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Murray makes this team going. He's
Speaker 1: the guy in the playoffs, obviously when the guard play
Speaker 1: becomes more important that he does have those huge games.
Speaker 1: And I don't know where I don't know where Denver
Speaker 1: goes without him. Yes, they are stacked and that's great,
Speaker 1: and you know, who knows, maybe they can figure something out.
Speaker 1: But man, they lose him. It's it's hard to look
Speaker 1: at the Nuggets and say, hey, Nuggets can get out
Speaker 1: of the West. I mean, because this is a loaded
Speaker 1: Western conference. This is me loaded one through six in
Speaker 1: the West this year, and I don't know how they
Speaker 1: get out of it. Well, in addition, you you touched
Speaker 1: on it. The MVP situation is very up in the air, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, Lebron's been hurt, Joel Embiad's been hurt. You know.
Speaker 1: I had Frankie Sola come on my radio show Saturday
Speaker 1: morning and said Yokis was his number one, you know,
Speaker 1: And you know I saw a great stat Jason. Forty
Speaker 1: eight of the sixty five MVPs have come from number
Speaker 1: one seats. Well, Denver and sniff in the one seat
Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray. So can Yokich win the award. Do
Speaker 1: we have to go back to Joel Embiid who's injured
Speaker 1: and you know they're fighting for the number one seed
Speaker 1: in the East. I don't really know where we go. Listen,
Speaker 1: people aren't gonna want to hear this. A guy named
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson won't win the MVP. But oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: have you seen what the guys been up to like
Speaker 1: the NBA this year, Jason, I don't know how big
Speaker 1: of a regular season guy you are. You know, I
Speaker 1: joked that life is too short to watch January college basketball.
Speaker 1: But NBA in the regular season this year has been
Speaker 1: pretty sweet. I mean, so many good comebacks. Guy's dropping
Speaker 1: forty five fifty at the drop of a hat. And
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray is a joy to watch. I wish him
Speaker 1: a very speedy recovery. Yeah, it's weird with with MVP.
Speaker 1: It's like, as soon as we say, all right, this
Speaker 1: guy's the front runner, something happens and they wind up
Speaker 1: getting hurt and or you know, because it was embeat
Speaker 1: for a while, right, and then he got hurt and
Speaker 1: then it was hardened and it was okay, oh harden,
Speaker 1: look at what he's doing and then it was okay,
Speaker 1: now Harden's out and the Nets win without him, so
Speaker 1: you know, as well as he's playing, you know, can
Speaker 1: he really be the MVP? Then it became Yoki. For
Speaker 1: a bit it was Lebron, but then Lebron got her.
Speaker 1: So it's like every every every few weeks, every month,
Speaker 1: there's like a new flavor of the month. Damian Lillard
Speaker 1: cracked that list maybe at some point, and some people
Speaker 1: are against that, but his clutch numbers have been insane.
Speaker 1: I will just add this on the Nuggets. You know, Jason,
Speaker 1: last year they had Gary Harris, Jamal Murray starting in
Speaker 1: the backcourt in the playoffs, and then Jeremy Grant at
Speaker 1: small forward. Well, if Jamal Murray's gone, all three starters
Speaker 1: will be toast from last year's great playoff run. Okay,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant obviously thriving in Detroit. Gary Harris just got
Speaker 1: shipped to Orlando, and now Jamal Murray's hurt, So this
Speaker 1: Denver postseason run may have just gone up and smoke.
Speaker 1: If Jamal Murray's out any significant amount of time, who
Speaker 1: that West is absolutely loaded? All right, We'll keep you
Speaker 1: posted on the Jamal Murray story again. An MRI today,
Speaker 1: a very shaken Nuggets locker room, and this shakes up
Speaker 1: the playoffs clearly. But also in this game last night,
Speaker 1: we saw a big history from Steph Curry, who now
Speaker 1: becomes the all time Golden State Warriors leading scorer. He
Speaker 1: passes a guy maybe you've heard of. Take a listen
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand, seven hundred and eighty two per Curry triple drive.
Speaker 1: Curry goes in, drives the lap. It's up and good,
Speaker 1: and there he is Stepid Curry, now the all time
Speaker 1: leading scorer hit Warriors franchise history. He shines brighter than
Speaker 1: the Big Dipper as he passes Wilt Chamberlain into history.
Speaker 1: Warriors Radio Network on the call part of a fifty
Speaker 1: three point night for Steph Curry, and you know, really
Speaker 1: quick he was for a hot minute, Curry was the
Speaker 1: was an MVP favorite because it was the storyline of boy,
Speaker 1: if Curry can lead the league in scoring and somehow
Speaker 1: single handedly get the Warriors into the playoffs. Oh maybe
Speaker 1: Steph Curry's the MVP if he has this kind of here.
Speaker 1: But clearly the Warriors are just hoping to get in
Speaker 1: the play in games at this point. I look at
Speaker 1: this Jay and I see this big achievement from Steph
Speaker 1: Curry and I go. Warrior fans have to enjoy it
Speaker 1: now because eventually, in the next year he's gonna go
Speaker 1: play someplace. WHOA I mean, look, I know we like
Speaker 1: to think of him as a forever Warrior, and certain
Speaker 1: players like to think of his forever players. But look,
Speaker 1: everybody changes now in the NBA. Everybody goes someplace, and
Speaker 1: the Warriors the era of their dynasty is over and
Speaker 1: you're not going to get big players to come join
Speaker 1: them now. It's an aging Curry. You don't know what
Speaker 1: Clay Thompson's going to be like when he comes back.
Speaker 1: And Curry wants to keep winning. Yeah, he hasn't wanted
Speaker 1: to sit here in hoist jumpers and score thirty five
Speaker 1: a night into obscurity, you know, into his midden late thirties.
Speaker 1: So eventually he's gonna know, I have to go someplace else,
Speaker 1: and he'll leave as at and whatever happens. Just like
Speaker 1: Lebron leaving Cleveland, he goes back. He won the championship there,
Speaker 1: so he's always going to be Cleveland's favorite son. He'll
Speaker 1: always be a Warrior, but he'll go someplace else. For
Speaker 1: the last few years of his career. He'll go and
Speaker 1: team up with somebody. Lebron's already try and accord him.
Speaker 1: He'll be that shooter, you know, a much better version
Speaker 1: of a Ray Allen near the end when he was
Speaker 1: such a big deal on title teams. And I say,
Speaker 1: after one more year, Steph Curry is gonna say I
Speaker 1: can't just keep getting my ass beat like this, you know,
Speaker 1: every single money and losing, and he goes someplace else. Hi, Jason,
Speaker 1: I'm signaling for a twenty second time out here. I
Speaker 1: cannot believe you just disrespected Steph Curry and put him
Speaker 1: in the same class as Ray Allen? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: A two time MVP and Curry, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I mean, it's fun to think, like, hey, hey, Lebron,
Speaker 1: he's gonna recruit Curry, But like Curry is the Warriors,
Speaker 1: when you are the guy and you won three chips
Speaker 1: and two MVPs, you don't go to play with other guys.
Speaker 1: They could play with you. And there was an interesting
Speaker 1: report out yesterday, and again I don't want to give
Speaker 1: something that's not from WOJ A lot of credibility, but
Speaker 1: there is speculation that Kawhi Leonard is not thrilled with
Speaker 1: the direction of the Clippers. Okay, we saw their second
Speaker 1: round gag job against Denver last year. Paul Georgia sign
Speaker 1: long term. They had to because they gave up all
Speaker 1: those picks. Kawai not so much. And if they happen
Speaker 1: to go down in the second round again, Clippers lose
Speaker 1: to I don't whoever, Lakers, Sons, Jazz, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: is Kawhi sticking around and the report is that, hey,
Speaker 1: the Warriors would then be interested in pursuing Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 1: and I listen, I think it's fun to talk about
Speaker 1: Curry teaming up with some people. I just I mean
Speaker 1: they were. He was able to recruit Kevin Durant to
Speaker 1: come play with him, and now he's gonna go play
Speaker 1: with someone else. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine him going to Milwaukee to play with Yah
Speaker 1: or Phoenix with Booker and Chris Paul. No way I
Speaker 1: can see someone wanting to go to Golden State. You
Speaker 1: know that it's a desirable the Bay Area, lovely part
Speaker 1: of the country, a little expensive. Um, but Jason I
Speaker 1: can't see Curry leaving You really think there's possibility there,
Speaker 1: because because everybody does. Could you see Lebron leaving Cleveland? No,
Speaker 1: but Lebron left Cleveland? Well, no way to say, hold on,
Speaker 1: it's Cleveland, Come on happy. Yeah, but he's from there.
Speaker 1: I mean he's from there. You know he left. You know, Look,
Speaker 1: I love New York, but I left, you know, I
Speaker 1: left for Los Angeles. I wanted Son, and I didn't
Speaker 1: want snow anymore and all these things. I left for LA. Look,
Speaker 1: everybody leaves in the NBA now. And if it was
Speaker 1: four years ago and Steph Curry is twenty eight, twenty nine,
Speaker 1: and here's a you know, Clay Thompson is the other
Speaker 1: splash brother, and he's still a guy that can score
Speaker 1: twenty in any quarter. Hey, and Draymond Green is still
Speaker 1: a guy that actually shoots the basketball and and and
Speaker 1: and affects the game. Then yeah, that's still a big,
Speaker 1: big draw for anybody. But now you're looking at a
Speaker 1: team in which Draymond Green clearly isn't the same guy.
Speaker 1: You don't know what Clay's gonna be. And here's stuff going, Okay,
Speaker 1: go here and play with stuff. Are you really going
Speaker 1: to jump in and join a title contending team, or
Speaker 1: are you joining a team that's kind of wheezing along
Speaker 1: a bit and you're hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm with you on how great it
Speaker 1: is in Golden State. We don't give them credit for
Speaker 1: the culture they created, for what Steve Kerr was able
Speaker 1: to do and take this team and Steph Curry, who
Speaker 1: was an all star caliber player, turn him into one
Speaker 1: of the greatest shooters we've ever seen, where he scores
Speaker 1: suddenly thirty a game. But that was four years ago,
Speaker 1: and now it's gonna be Okay, guess what, you have
Speaker 1: to come here to a bigger market, whether it's La,
Speaker 1: whether it's someplace else. I mean, look, he may want to.
Speaker 1: He may say, you know what, hey, let's all team
Speaker 1: up someplace else. Let's go to Charlotte. You know, I
Speaker 1: can get a couple of guys and go to Charlotte
Speaker 1: and play, and I can go there and I go back.
Speaker 1: All these things would be on the table for him.
Speaker 1: And because everybody goes and we've seen this, I can't
Speaker 1: put it past for a second. Steph Curry would lea yeah,
Speaker 1: so he is from Art and there was some chatter that, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe he wants to go home the way Lebron went
Speaker 1: home to Cleveland. I just I look at ownership, front office, coaching,
Speaker 1: that stuff matters. I think two stars, and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like too much of a
Speaker 1: loser here at the outset. But when Durant went to
Speaker 1: Golden State, I instantly went on Cowherd Show and I
Speaker 1: was pumping up Kevin Durant's the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: And Durant saw it on Instagram and we start talking
Speaker 1: and open a little friendship there. And I asked him
Speaker 1: point blank, like, what are you doing going to the Knicks? Why?
Speaker 1: Why would you go to the Knicks. This was when
Speaker 1: everybody was speculating he would leave Golden State for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: And he essentially said, what do I care about the owner?
Speaker 1: Like what do I care about that? I'm you know, essentially,
Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Durant. I'm bigger than that. But notice he
Speaker 1: didn't go to the Knicks. He went to the Nets
Speaker 1: because Kyrie Irving went there, and you know, they were
Speaker 1: able to pick whoever they wanted as their coach. To
Speaker 1: an extent, I think Durant had a large say in
Speaker 1: bringing on Steve Nash, who we work with in Golden State.
Speaker 1: But you know, you could argue, yeah, that there is
Speaker 1: some say in the players. But I find it really
Speaker 1: hard to believe that Steph Curry would bail on Golden State.
Speaker 1: I think it's easier for him to recruit guys there
Speaker 1: than to Charlotte, although Charlotte is one of the best
Speaker 1: stories in the league. LaMelo Ball, Gordon Hayward, Scary, Terry Rosier,
Speaker 1: um Man. That that would be I don't even know
Speaker 1: where that would rank. That would probably be up there
Speaker 1: with Lebron's decision to go from Cleveland to Miami. Right now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, are you sure you were actually
Speaker 1: friends with Kady and it wasn't a burner? Yes? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're sure it was indeed Duran? Yes, right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know he has multiple burners. Um. But and again, I
Speaker 1: am a Curry fan. I should probably preface that. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I started a podcast way back when I
Speaker 1: was I started this website, The Big Lead, and I
Speaker 1: had a podcast there. The first guest I had was
Speaker 1: Steph Curry before he had signed that like seventy eight
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. He had he had been injured in
Speaker 1: his early years in Golden State. That was when you
Speaker 1: could get him on your podcast. And I've been such
Speaker 1: a huge fan of cur I ran to him at
Speaker 1: my gym two summers ago after he had the injury.
Speaker 1: Super nice guy, and I'm just a huge fan of
Speaker 1: him on and off the court. This guy's done so
Speaker 1: much for the league and he's a great ambassador for
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. He's the greatest guy in that franchise history.
Speaker 1: You know, no disrespect to Wilt and Rick Barry and
Speaker 1: all those other guys. It's Curry right, he is the
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Speaker 1: NFL coming your way. Hey, a huge retirement a day ago.
Speaker 1: Is this guy headed to the Hall of Fames? Probably not?
Speaker 1: But is he headed to the Hall of fame? We'll
Speaker 1: find out coming up next right here, Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1: had a huge retirement in the NFL a day ago,
Speaker 1: as Julian Edelman, postseason hero extraordinaire hangs him up, retiring
Speaker 1: after a very good NFL career, and I'm saying very
Speaker 1: good and putting that in air quotes. Joining Jason us
Speaker 1: now on the hot line to break it all down
Speaker 1: in all the big news in the NFL. Senior NFL
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Speaker 1: It's Pete prisco pekod morning man. How's it going good?
Speaker 1: How are you guys? We're doing good? Man? Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: Edelman retires. I saw your tweet. You know, Hall of
Speaker 1: Very Good not Hall of Fame. But people are starting
Speaker 1: to make his case for it. Well, you know, how
Speaker 1: do you break this down? Yeah? I don't even think
Speaker 1: it's close, to be honest with you, I think he
Speaker 1: was a very good player who did a lot of
Speaker 1: good things in the postseason, but when you really added
Speaker 1: up and look at his numbers, he doesn't belong in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and nor will he get into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I mean, there are so many
Speaker 1: other receivers that are fighting to get into the hall
Speaker 1: that are clearly better than he is. And if he
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, one of those guys that played on
Speaker 1: those good Patriots teams, that wouldn't even be consideration. So no,
Speaker 1: Hall of Very Good, not Hall. Yeah, Pete, Hey, it's
Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre. I'm just curious, why do you think people
Speaker 1: are enamored with Edelman? Is it more his story that
Speaker 1: he was a converted quarterback from Kent State, seventh round
Speaker 1: draft pick who went on to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: MVP and played with Brady and dated celebrities. What is
Speaker 1: it about Edelman that even has him in this discussion.
Speaker 1: This guy was never ever a top five receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL at his position. Yeah, and I think you
Speaker 1: hit it. I mean, I think when you see a
Speaker 1: guy who made himself into a key part of some
Speaker 1: of the great teams this league of scene, and he
Speaker 1: was a former quarterback and you know, transitioned to slot
Speaker 1: receiver and then also played some defense at times, I mean,
Speaker 1: there is a special story there, and it's he was
Speaker 1: a guy that worked his butt off and made himself
Speaker 1: into a really good player, and people respect that. But
Speaker 1: you got to cast that aside when you're looking at
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame stories, because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that did that, that worked to become great players
Speaker 1: and deserve it more than he did. But I think
Speaker 1: that that's exactly why he is so revered, particularly in
Speaker 1: the Boston area. You know, the thing I look at
Speaker 1: is that look at all these receivers that you know,
Speaker 1: this is more about the Patriot way. I think the
Speaker 1: Patriot way on the field is that all these receivers
Speaker 1: that Brady has played with over the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: some guys came and they put up these incredible numbers
Speaker 1: and they went someplace else or they before and they
Speaker 1: weren't the same. So it's like, okay, so how many
Speaker 1: guys can you say were truly great receivers When I
Speaker 1: can watch Juliettelman, go, boy, here's a pick in a
Speaker 1: rub play where he's wide open. Here's a pick and
Speaker 1: a rub play where he's wide open, because the Patriots
Speaker 1: did that a ton over the past two decades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again when you look at his numbers and you
Speaker 1: dissect his numbers, they just don't warrant him being into
Speaker 1: the hall. I mean, what are the one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty sixth all time in receiving yard That doesn't warrant
Speaker 1: you being in the hall. Same there's a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: Paul who have significantly better numbers. And look, you can
Speaker 1: go through guys that are just playing now. He better
Speaker 1: than Antonio Brown, No, DeAndre Hopkins, no AJ Green, No,
Speaker 1: I mean, on and on it goes. Julio Jones, No way,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys playing now that
Speaker 1: have better shots to get into the Hall than he does.
Speaker 1: So great player for what he did, but just not
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fan player. All right, Pete, Let's pivot
Speaker 1: here to the NFL Draft coming up here in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I gotta say, I'm stunned at
Speaker 1: this Mac Jones to San Francisco stuff at three. It
Speaker 1: feels like it's gotta be the greatest misdirection play ever.
Speaker 1: Although a lot of smart people are saying, hey, Shanahan
Speaker 1: had loved Kirk Cousins over RG three, dating back to
Speaker 1: Washington when he was on the staff there with his dad,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be Mac Jones over Justin Fields. I'm
Speaker 1: not still not buying it. You know, my eye test
Speaker 1: says Justin Fields is the guy? What are you hearing?
Speaker 1: I'm hearing what you're hearing. But my eye test is
Speaker 1: the same as yours. I don't get it. And I've
Speaker 1: watched Mac Jones for a long time. He was a
Speaker 1: kid who was I used to live in Jacksonville. He
Speaker 1: was there. He came up through the high school ranks,
Speaker 1: so I followed his career closely, and Mac Jones is
Speaker 1: a good, solid player and he will be a good
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But the guy with the ceiling is justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people talk about Mac Jones hasn't
Speaker 1: played a lot of football, neither is justin Fields, and
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more growth there for him.
Speaker 1: And these notions that he doesn't get to his second
Speaker 1: read and he's not great in the pocket. You know,
Speaker 1: if you go back and study the Indiana game, which
Speaker 1: everybody kills him for, the blitz really impacted him, and yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he needed to do a better job with protections,
Speaker 1: but they hit him and came after him, and he's
Speaker 1: still made through for over three hundred yards and rush
Speaker 1: for seventy five yards in that game. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was an awful game. So I get it. And
Speaker 1: you know, where were all these people that are now
Speaker 1: praising Kyle Shannon for the notion that he might pick
Speaker 1: mac Jones at number three, trading for two first round
Speaker 1: picks to go up and do it. Where were they
Speaker 1: in January after the National Championship game, banging the drum
Speaker 1: for mac Jones being a top five pick. They weren't around.
Speaker 1: But now that somebody in the league is saying everybody's
Speaker 1: jumping on board and saying it's a great move. I
Speaker 1: don't get it. Well, I don't know Chris. Chris Sims
Speaker 1: knows Kyle Shanahan pretty well. I got a feeling when
Speaker 1: he says stuff, you know, he's not just pulling it
Speaker 1: out of the the finnair. How much of it is pete?
Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? The Niners want to hit the ground running,
Speaker 1: and mac Jones they see is more of an NFL
Speaker 1: ready quarterback to come in and play than justin fields
Speaker 1: who might take a little bit more time. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I think when you look at it, why
Speaker 1: would he be more NFL ready because he has he
Speaker 1: played about the same number of games. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Maybe their idea that he fits in their offenses. It
Speaker 1: might be something that they believe. I don't see that either.
Speaker 1: I think in that office, you've got to be able
Speaker 1: to move and get outside the pocket, and mac Jones
Speaker 1: didn't do a lot of that in college. It's not
Speaker 1: that he can't. I mean, he did run four seven,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like it's something he's comfortable doing.
Speaker 1: Whereas I think Justin Field's much more athletic, can get
Speaker 1: outside and throw the football on the run. So I
Speaker 1: don't understand it. I think they're going back and doing
Speaker 1: more work on Justin fields with leaves the door open
Speaker 1: that it might change and go to Justin Fields, or
Speaker 1: maybe that's the guy they really want. I can't when
Speaker 1: you look at their pro days. If you go watch
Speaker 1: the Pro day that Mac Jones had, it wasn't very
Speaker 1: good average in terms of what pro days are. And
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys that gets filed by
Speaker 1: pro days because you're throwing against there, but his wasn't
Speaker 1: very good in terms of some of the other ones.
Speaker 1: So I think that has to be a little concerning
Speaker 1: to the forty nine. Yeah, how much of this though,
Speaker 1: Pete is simply ego on Kyle Shanahan. You know what
Speaker 1: Justin feels through six tds against Clemson. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a guy that I can get him
Speaker 1: my system and coach him up, and he's going to
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the league. We know Shanahan
Speaker 1: has a colossal ego. It barely fits in the state
Speaker 1: of California. I don't know I mean, this guy really
Speaker 1: does believe that he could take Matt Jones, who by
Speaker 1: the way, had more All Americans starting around him than
Speaker 1: the entire Big Ten and Big twelve combined on offense,
Speaker 1: and he could just make him an amazing quarterback. Are
Speaker 1: you buying it? You know you mentioned the ego, and
Speaker 1: I think ego cost the Falcons the Super Bowl a
Speaker 1: couple of you had he just gone run, run, And
Speaker 1: I've actually had arguments with guys on his staff. If
Speaker 1: you had run the ball twice and even taken a
Speaker 1: knee twice and kicked the field goal, you have a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. But the arrogance gotten the way there
Speaker 1: and cost them the Super Bowl with the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he does have a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: I you know, talking to guys around the league that
Speaker 1: know him very well and guys that have coached with him,
Speaker 1: I think some of that has been gone because you know,
Speaker 1: it's left him a little bit, because he's matoredan age
Speaker 1: a little bit. I do think he's a brilliant offensive mine,
Speaker 1: one of the best in football. But to sit here
Speaker 1: and blindly say, oh, Kyle Shannon's gonna draft Mac Jones
Speaker 1: and therefore it's going to work because we believe everything
Speaker 1: he does and everything you know John Lynch does. They
Speaker 1: passed on Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes to take Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about that. I mean, you know they
Speaker 1: did do that. Now they had signed Jimmy Garoppolo. But
Speaker 1: does that mean that now they don't think Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: is very good? I don't think Mac Jones is gonna
Speaker 1: be much better than Jimmy Garoppolo in that offense, where
Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields has a chance to have a
Speaker 1: much higher stealing You're the forty nine ers. I don't
Speaker 1: see how you do that and take Mac Jones. Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: senior NFL columnists for CBS Sports and CBS boards dot
Speaker 1: Com with us here on the Dan Patrick Show, Jason Smith,
Speaker 1: Jason McIntyre in for Dan and the Dan Nets. All right,
Speaker 1: so when it comes to quarterbacks, Pete, if I give
Speaker 1: you this bold prediction for the draft, tell me the
Speaker 1: percentage chance you think it has a coming true. Right,
Speaker 1: we think we're going to see quarterbacks the first four picks.
Speaker 1: Could we see quarterbacks eventually? With trades up the first
Speaker 1: five picks in the draft with Trey Lance being that
Speaker 1: fifth guy off the board. It's possible. And the reason
Speaker 1: it's possible is if the Falcons or take quarterback at
Speaker 1: four and then you're sitting there in your Bengals, you
Speaker 1: have your selection of guys you want, and you could
Speaker 1: move down and still get one of those guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it's pen a Soul they like at left tackle,
Speaker 1: or if it's you know, Jamar Chase or Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: then if there's a team that wants to go up
Speaker 1: and get the fifth quarterback, you could move down a
Speaker 1: couple of spots and still get one of those guys.
Speaker 1: So it is definitely possible. I would look, the Falcons
Speaker 1: are the tough one. What do they do? You hear
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith is all in on Matt Ryan, but maybe
Speaker 1: the you know, Terry font know the new GM is not,
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna have a tough decision do they
Speaker 1: stay put and take Kyle Pitts. And if you or
Speaker 1: one of the offensive linement, if you look at Kyle Pitts,
Speaker 1: you look at Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith loves to use
Speaker 1: two tight end sets and he'd love to have a
Speaker 1: nice pass catching tight end to go with Hayden Hurst,
Speaker 1: so that would make some sense there as well, to
Speaker 1: make another push on that offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Kyle Pitts, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley and
Speaker 1: Hurst in that offense with Matt Ryan throwing the football.
Speaker 1: I mean, they will score a lot of points, so
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. But I also think there's some people
Speaker 1: in that building that are pushing to take the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Pete about owners. You know, the
Speaker 1: situation in Philadelphia got really ugly really fast. There was
Speaker 1: a story in The Athletic about Jeffrey Lurry having weekly
Speaker 1: meetings with Doug Peterson and having to answer questions, Well,
Speaker 1: we're now hearing Arthur Blank in Atlanta? Is it totally
Speaker 1: all enamored with Matt Ryan? Still he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: kick his guy to the curb and they won't pick
Speaker 1: a quarterback at four. I'm just curious where are you
Speaker 1: on these billionaires voicing their thoughts on football, you know,
Speaker 1: with the teams, and I know what's the right given
Speaker 1: that they own the team, but is it the right
Speaker 1: thing to do? Is it smart to meddle if you're
Speaker 1: an owner on an NFL two. It happens more than
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, look, you know, and look it
Speaker 1: is their team and they do have that right, and
Speaker 1: I know sometimes these coaches get frustrated, but you remember
Speaker 1: who you're working for. You know, just like if your
Speaker 1: boss came to you and said, look, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you in after every show and tell you what I
Speaker 1: didn't like and what I do like, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it my way. The next day, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: like it, but you're probably gonna do it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes on way more than we think. And everybody
Speaker 1: always thought it was just Jerry Jones that metal because
Speaker 1: he was the GM of that team. No, they all
Speaker 1: or a lot of them do. They A lot of
Speaker 1: them get involved and invoice their opinions. Most of the
Speaker 1: time they let the football guys do the work and
Speaker 1: then come to them if there's a tie, and then
Speaker 1: maybe they leave one way or the other. It sounds
Speaker 1: like I Philadelphia Jeffrey Lawrie much more involved than that.
Speaker 1: And you know the politics of a front office, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that happens in this league. The egos
Speaker 1: get you mentioned ego before the egos get in the way.
Speaker 1: And even if there's a great working relationship between a
Speaker 1: GM and a coach, a lot of times ego messes
Speaker 1: that up and oh, I do it this way, I
Speaker 1: get credit for this. He's talking about the players. I
Speaker 1: can't get enough players. The coaches aren't complaining about the
Speaker 1: GM not getting players. The GM starts complaining about the
Speaker 1: way the coach is using those players, and on and
Speaker 1: on it goes, and that's where the owner has to
Speaker 1: step in and get involved. So ultimately it comes down
Speaker 1: to ego, and the teams that can handle that usually
Speaker 1: are the ones that keep on winning. Pete, did you
Speaker 1: and I ever work in the same place, because that
Speaker 1: story about sitting in after shows with people telling you
Speaker 1: what they liked and didn't like, that's very familiar to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever work in the same
Speaker 1: place together at some point, you know what I know,
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, when I used to do
Speaker 1: radio way back in the day, there were always those
Speaker 1: that would after you're done, they say, hey, maybe you
Speaker 1: should do it this way. Now I'm doing it that way.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying. You
Speaker 1: can follow on Twitter at Prisco's CBS that is at
Speaker 1: Prisco's CBS P Prisco. As always, Buddy, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for stopping Bible. We'll talk to you soon. Take care
Speaker 1: of guys, all right. Thanks. You know Jay, you want
Speaker 1: to do you want a great story about that? Right?
Speaker 1: So you know, before I'm working here, I worked across
Speaker 1: the street at ESPN, and there was a time, but
Speaker 1: there was a time when you always sat down once
Speaker 1: a week with one of our managers and they told
Speaker 1: they listened to a segment of your show, and they
Speaker 1: told you they like and didn't like, right, which is okay.
Speaker 1: I wasn't the biggest fan of it, but all right,
Speaker 1: you know that's fine. So and to tell you how
Speaker 1: crazy it was was that one time I forget there
Speaker 1: was a story something something weird happened during the seventh
Speaker 1: inning stretch at Wrigley Field, and so it became a
Speaker 1: topic and Dan did it on his show, and you know,
Speaker 1: are one of our managers who did these meetings with
Speaker 1: you wrote out, Hey, you know, a topic like this
Speaker 1: is awesome for sports talk radio, and don't be afraid
Speaker 1: to do that and get outside the box and do it.
Speaker 1: So we're like, okay, and I did the same topic.
Speaker 1: I did differently on my show, but at the same topic.
Speaker 1: So it comes time to listen with with you know,
Speaker 1: my manager for it, and I do that as a topic,
Speaker 1: right and and he that's the part he listens to
Speaker 1: and he says to me, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: you got away from sports a little bit too much
Speaker 1: with that topic. And and you know, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't really get any sports there for like, you know,
Speaker 1: the three or four minutes to that topic. And I said,
Speaker 1: but wait, wasn't wasn't that a good topic to do?
Speaker 1: You wrote an email out saying that that was good
Speaker 1: that you know, for for Dan did it, and it
Speaker 1: was it was really good to do, and you'd like
Speaker 1: to see more people doing. He goes, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: got away from sports too much. And that's when I knew.
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I'm just not going to be able
Speaker 1: to win and and and this is just how it's
Speaker 1: going to be. And that's when I knew things like
Speaker 1: that were just ridiculous to do. It's like I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a difference between constructive criticism, which I definitely embrace.
Speaker 1: I love constructive criticism. How we're going to get better.
Speaker 1: It's not like we're Brian who can maniacally watch film
Speaker 1: after every game and see where you screwed up. I
Speaker 1: don't think that exists really in radio. So all we
Speaker 1: can do is hope to get constructive feedback. But if
Speaker 1: you've got some guy who I'm assuming this guy worked
Speaker 1: in radio, do you want to give his name or no?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it's say, there's no need to Okay,
Speaker 1: So was he a former radio guy? Was he a
Speaker 1: successful radio Yeah, he was a successful radio guy, and
Speaker 1: he came and it was just I was stunned at
Speaker 1: some of the things that that that was said. I'm like, Okay, really,
Speaker 1: this is this is how we're gonna I think the
Speaker 1: audience likes it when I go off sports for a
Speaker 1: little bit on my Saturday radio show. Now that maybe
Speaker 1: a five day a week shows different, and the time
Speaker 1: slot matters, whether it's drive time or mornings. But I
Speaker 1: think people like that window into your soul and who
Speaker 1: you really are. I mean, if you could get in
Speaker 1: their car or their headphones for thirty minutes a day,
Speaker 1: I think you really can have an impact on what
Speaker 1: these guys think about you. And yeah, I'm I'm definitely
Speaker 1: pro going off sports. I mean, we can go off
Speaker 1: sports next next segment if you want to. Jay, Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: we could definitely do that. And you know, I hear
Speaker 1: you on that, because it's always a way. Look, you
Speaker 1: got to realize that that there's a lot of choices
Speaker 1: out there and you want people to know you and
Speaker 1: I want to kind of tell you about my life
Speaker 1: through sports a little bit and what's going on when
Speaker 1: when when you're doing shows, it's okay, there's different choices
Speaker 1: out there that you have, what makes you different, what
Speaker 1: makes you unique, and this is why we do a
Speaker 1: show here and why I have a show here and
Speaker 1: doing different things. So it's really important that people get
Speaker 1: to see that. And I understand the Okay, you're away
Speaker 1: from sports too much, but I'm like, this is like
Speaker 1: three or four minute. This is like when when Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson would get criticized after a win, right, like the
Speaker 1: story you had from the Athletic guest Day where Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Laurie said, why didn't you throw the football more? Well,
Speaker 1: it was twenty five mile an hour wins. Because we're
Speaker 1: playing in Buffalo and we won the game. What does
Speaker 1: it matter that we didn't throw the football more? All?
Speaker 1: We got to do is win the game. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why why you feel like we need to throw
Speaker 1: the football more Like that's a criticism that I just
Speaker 1: don't get. Like, if you have a player that you're
Speaker 1: not using and you think he can be great, and
Speaker 1: you're paying him a lot of money and you think
Speaker 1: and you're not winning, hey, we got to change things up.
Speaker 1: But when you're winning and you're doing pretty well, and
Speaker 1: you know Peterson's a guy that kind of won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, yeah, I think you would give him a
Speaker 1: little bit of Okay. The guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: So this is just a tiny, tiny thing. So a
Speaker 1: few years back, I was able to invest in a
Speaker 1: basketball team in Australia in the NBL, the league where
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball played last year in RJ. Hampton, and I
Speaker 1: went to a game they had come to play the
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies in Memphis. So I fly to Memphis hang
Speaker 1: out with some of the other owners. One of them
Speaker 1: is a former college basketball player who played briefly in
Speaker 1: the NBA, And we sit out at dinner after one
Speaker 1: of the games, and then the coach shows up with
Speaker 1: his assistant coach to have dinner with the owners and
Speaker 1: I got to be honest, it was one of the
Speaker 1: most eye opening dinners I've ever been at. Now I'm
Speaker 1: a minority owner, very small slice of the pie, but
Speaker 1: just hearing the owner coach exchange was just like so
Speaker 1: illuminating because I'm like, wow, holy cow, Like we could
Speaker 1: say stuff and the coach gotta has to do it now.
Speaker 1: I said that in my head, but I really said
Speaker 1: nothing here. And it was one of these good relationships
Speaker 1: where the coach is a tremendous smart mind. He knows
Speaker 1: what he wants to fit his system, and you know,
Speaker 1: us as owners were like, oh, this is cool. And
Speaker 1: to me, that was one of the coolest dinners I've
Speaker 1: ever been at. Second coolest might be Billy Packer, you know,
Speaker 1: the former college basketball announcer. Oh sure, everybody doesn't like.
Speaker 1: I was able to sit next to him at a
Speaker 1: dinner in New York City one night and he just
Speaker 1: had stories galore about everybody and I was a college
Speaker 1: basketball nerd in the nineties. But at anyway, not to
Speaker 1: go off track, like I like hearing these owner coach
Speaker 1: exchanges because you know, as a Jets fan and you
Speaker 1: know as a Knicks fan, there are meddling owners in
Speaker 1: that team. Those guys want to be celebrities, whether it's
Speaker 1: to be in a rock band like a certain guy
Speaker 1: you know with the Knicks, or just Woody Johnson, who's
Speaker 1: a buffoon with my Jets. Like you meddle, You're not
Speaker 1: gonna go places. You think Robert Kraft was meddling with
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I can just imagine going to that dinner
Speaker 1: and the coach is going, Okay, I gotta listen to
Speaker 1: the straight podcasts so I know about my own thing.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch FS one. I gotta see where are
Speaker 1: I gotta be able to talk to this guy. I
Speaker 1: gotta know what's going on here. Yeah, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: was crossing the coach's mind. You know, one of the
Speaker 1: most accomplished coaches in European basketball in the last decade
Speaker 1: worried about Straight Fire. By the way, great interview today
Speaker 1: on Straight Fire with Charles Robinson, who says, now, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna become a thing,
Speaker 1: but apparently Aaron Rodgers is legitimately beefing with his GM
Speaker 1: like openly in Green Bay. Now, I think we have
Speaker 1: that on our rundown to talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the Packers later. But you know, I just want to
Speaker 1: look out, look big picture in zoom out, Jason. When
Speaker 1: you start seeing this NBA player empowerment right and players
Speaker 1: are saying, I want to play here, I want to
Speaker 1: play with that guy. I want to do this. Are
Speaker 1: you see are you starting to think that it's coming
Speaker 1: to the NFL? Russell Wilson after a great run, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to go traded. Here are the
Speaker 1: teams I'll go to, you know. And now Aaron Rodgers beefing,
Speaker 1: and it looks like Aaron Rodgers eventually will leave like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady being I'm gonna go to Tampa. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. I can't wait to hear your
Speaker 1: thoughts on player empowerment, Jason, and whether you think it's
Speaker 1: a good thing for sports or bad. We got some
Speaker 1: player empowerment. We got that coming up in about forty
Speaker 1: minutes with Aaron Rodgers. But speaking of the Jets, because
Speaker 1: I'm with you right there as a you know, a
Speaker 1: forty year Jet fan. Sam Darnold had some incredibly interesting
Speaker 1: comments to make as he was introduced as a new
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Carolina Panthers. We got that in more
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Speaker 1: Today to Jason's two Jets fans who can give you
Speaker 1: a very unique perspective right now on what Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: said a day ago or a little less than the
Speaker 1: day ago, is introduced as the new quarterback of the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Now, Darnald has always said the right thing
Speaker 1: since coming into the league, no matter what kind of
Speaker 1: situation he was in with the Jets. But the biggest
Speaker 1: thing he said, you know, it made some eye opening
Speaker 1: statements a day ago, saying that it was really tough
Speaker 1: dealing with the trade talk that surrounded him in the
Speaker 1: previous couple of months. Take a listen, when I heard
Speaker 1: the news that they wanted to trade me, it was tough.
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you're not wanted somewhere, that's always, you know,
Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow. Then it was the opposite feeling.
Speaker 1: You go from being unwanted and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the people in Carolina, you know, wanted me and obviously
Speaker 1: traded for me, and you go from being unwanted to wanted.
Speaker 1: And things didn't work out the way that I wanted
Speaker 1: in New York, but I was just so excited for
Speaker 1: a you know, a fresh start and new opportunity. So
Speaker 1: it was bittersweet. You know. You know the thing that's
Speaker 1: tough Jay's he was a really good guy. He seemed
Speaker 1: to know how to handle New York. But you know
Speaker 1: it was tough was that he stunk. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look for being a Jet fan, he stunk. He
Speaker 1: wasn't good, and he had so many excuses made for
Speaker 1: him by everybody around the NFL. He's like the Jennifer
Speaker 1: Anderson of quarterbacks. When you look at Jennifer Anderson, go,
Speaker 1: why doesn't you have a better movie grip? Which she
Speaker 1: keeps getting chances, keeps getting Jet. Eventually you have to
Speaker 1: sit back and say, Okay, it's not everybody else's fault
Speaker 1: but his. It's not all the coaches and the players
Speaker 1: and the system. Uh, Darnald wasn't good and he wasn't
Speaker 1: good for the bulk of the time he was in
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, it's it's tough. I'm a huge Donald guy.
Speaker 1: I'll just in a quick defense of him. You know,
Speaker 1: he was drafted by the GM who ended up getting dusted.
Speaker 1: He was drafted to play for Todd Bowles and an
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. They got fired after his first year. So
Speaker 1: you come in as a rookie, young rookie, learn a system,
Speaker 1: and then you have to scrap that and go for
Speaker 1: a new system and work for a guy in Adam Gaze, who,
Speaker 1: despite getting the seal of approval from Peyton Manning was
Speaker 1: a horrible people person, so Donald didn't get a fair shake.
Speaker 1: But I will say this in defense of Donald as well.
Speaker 1: I forget who said the quote. I think it might
Speaker 1: have been Mike Tyson. Everybody has a plan until they
Speaker 1: get punched in the face. Okay. A lot of these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks don't deal with any adversity at all. Okay. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz is a prime example. Goes to North Dakota State,
Speaker 1: awesome quarterback, no adversity, no media scrutiny, and then he
Speaker 1: gets drafted by the Eagles second year, you know, was
Speaker 1: the MVP leader, goes down with an injury, they went
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Carson Wentz is the next great thing.
Speaker 1: As soon as he started to stink this past year
Speaker 1: and they basically benched him, he starts pouting, Get me
Speaker 1: out of here. I'm not a backup. Sam Darnald, to
Speaker 1: his credit, highly recruited kid. Usc that amazing Rose Bowl
Speaker 1: game that everybody out here in LA was in love with.
Speaker 1: One of the great Rose Bowl performances by a young
Speaker 1: quarterback that I can recall. Get goes to the Jets
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he wasn't very good, but he
Speaker 1: didn't pout didn't whine, took it like a man. So
Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger upside for Sam Darnold. Say,
Speaker 1: then a Carson Wentz who cried and moped in Philly
Speaker 1: when things went sour for him. How you handle adversity, Jason?
Speaker 1: You know this being in a tough industry like I'm in. Um,
Speaker 1: how you handle adversity? He says a lot about you,
Speaker 1: and I'm impressed with what I've seen from Darnold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just counting down because there's gonna be another twenty
Speaker 1: years until Peyton Manning screws the Jets again, right, because
Speaker 1: he's screwed us by staying in at Tennessee. You see, ye,
Speaker 1: twenty years later he recommends Adam Gase. So in another
Speaker 1: twenty years, we gotta watch out for Baton man. I
Speaker 1: forgot about going to really screw I forgot about staying
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Um, jerk, He's gonna completely screw us. Look,
Speaker 1: I feel bad because because Sam Darnold seemed to be
Speaker 1: have the right temper, meant to come into New York
Speaker 1: and do it and handle the media and handle everything,
Speaker 1: he just didn't flash. I mean in a league where
Speaker 1: in a year we saw all kinds of quarterback record
Speaker 1: set for touchdown passes. A guy, the guy through nine.
Speaker 1: You know, he's the lowest rated quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: the last two years. I mean, he couldn't throw. You
Speaker 1: didn't have a three hundred yard game this year. Games
Speaker 1: when you're getting blown out thirty to three and you're
Speaker 1: throwing the football, you should at least have a couple
Speaker 1: of three hundred yard games by accident. When you're losing,
Speaker 1: you lose, hey forty five twenty. But he couldn't even
Speaker 1: do that. You know that nation is a double loss, Jason,
Speaker 1: are you ready? He's gonna thrive in Carolina with Joe Brady,
Speaker 1: who's one of the best young GM young offensive coordinators
Speaker 1: in the league. Right, and then Kyle Shanahan is picking third.
Speaker 1: We know his ego and offensive acumen is going to
Speaker 1: turn Mac Jones or Justin Fields into a star. And
Speaker 1: here we have Zach Wilson, who if he's not awesome, Well,
Speaker 1: the Jets screwed it up again, the worst franchise in
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, we have the longest playoff droute
Speaker 1: now that the Browns got to the playoffs. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my entire forties was absolutely just wasted. It was just
Speaker 1: a waste of Mark Sanchise, Mark sanch I have yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He won more playoff games on the road than Tom
Speaker 1: Brady for the long Brady just passed him like a
Speaker 1: year ago. That's one of the great stats of all time.
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