WEBVTT - S04 Episode 7 Extra: Between the Absurd and Momentous

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClane Smith, where

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<v Speaker 1>for the weeks in between episodes, we look at stories

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<v Speaker 1>and ideas that, for one reason or other, didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it into the previous show. In last week's episode, called

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<v Speaker 1>to the Forest, we heard about the tragic tale of

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<v Speaker 1>four men with intellectual disabilities who were mysteriously found dead

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<v Speaker 1>high up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, many miles from

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<v Speaker 1>where they should have been. The men were a group

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<v Speaker 1>of five the night they originally disappeared, the fifth member

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<v Speaker 1>being twenty five year old Gary Matthias, whose whereabouts since

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<v Speaker 1>then have remained unknown. Some have speculated that Matthias, who

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<v Speaker 1>had previously suffered about paranoid schizophrenia, made somehow have been

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for the deaths. Many, however, remain convinced that Matthias

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<v Speaker 1>also died that night up on that mountain, just as

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<v Speaker 1>tragically and innocently as the others, the remains of his

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<v Speaker 1>body just waiting to be found. The case, commonly referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as the Yuba County five, is among one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more unique and bizarre mysteries of its kind in

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<v Speaker 1>recent times. Incredibly, what isn't unique was the attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>use an apparent psychic to help solve it. Fairly recently,

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<v Speaker 1>both the UK and Australia's police forces have been on

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<v Speaker 1>record to state that they don't regard supposed psychics as credible,

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<v Speaker 1>nor do they use them, and yet a number of

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<v Speaker 1>veterans for both forces have also stated that in fact

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<v Speaker 1>they have, and in nineteen ninety three, a survey conducted

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States revealed that a of the nation's

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<v Speaker 1>police departments from the largest fifty cities had consulted apparent

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<v Speaker 1>psychics in the past. A quick search online will throw

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<v Speaker 1>up a number of individuals whose apparent psychic abilities have

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<v Speaker 1>helped to crack police cases, but there is one who

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<v Speaker 1>stands out a little more than the others. Known variously

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<v Speaker 1>as the Dutchman with the X ray Mind, the radar Brain,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wizard of Utrecht, Gerard Quizette is thought to

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<v Speaker 1>have been the most effective of them all. Gerard Quizette,

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<v Speaker 1>who was born in the town of Lorente in the

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlands in nineteen o nine, had a difficult to childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>with an act of father who spent most of his

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<v Speaker 1>time away from the family on tour and a mother

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<v Speaker 1>who struggled to look after him alone. Quizette spent considerable

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<v Speaker 1>time in foster care from the age of eight to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>He was bounced between six different foster families, including one

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<v Speaker 1>that was partial to chaining him to a stake in

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<v Speaker 1>the floor rather than care for him properly. When he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in foster care, he would be brought back to

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<v Speaker 1>the local orphanage, where he was often whipped for perceived insubordination.

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<v Speaker 1>During this time, Quasette is thought to have become understandably withdrawn,

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<v Speaker 1>preferring the company of his many imaginary friends over anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, when he was eleven, Quasette's mother, now

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<v Speaker 1>married to another man, was granted custody of her son

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<v Speaker 1>once more. However, after falling out with his new stepdad,

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<v Speaker 1>Quizette ran away from home. Over the next few years,

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<v Speaker 1>Quasette struggled to hold down a job before finally seeming

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<v Speaker 1>to settle down when he moved to Ensched and met

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<v Speaker 1>the love of his life, Gerda, in nineteen thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That same year, the pair established a grocery store business,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon after had a son. A few months later,

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<v Speaker 1>Coosette had a nervous breakdown. It was as if all

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<v Speaker 1>the misery that had befallen him as a child had

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly come rushing back. Having eventually recovered, however, Coosette seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to emerge from the breakdown somehow changed. At some point

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<v Speaker 1>during his teens, Cosette is said to have discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>he had the ability to conduct psychoscope. Now convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>it was in fact a gift from God, Cosette decided

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<v Speaker 1>to devote all his time to sharing it with others.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychoscope or psychometry is the term for a form of

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<v Speaker 1>supposed extrasensory perception in which those who apparently possess it

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that they can make predictions and associations about other

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<v Speaker 1>individuals purely by touching an object linked to them. Quasette

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<v Speaker 1>soon gained a reputation for himself in Enchet as a

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<v Speaker 1>psychic who was able to successfully diagnose illness. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the German army invaded the Netherlands, with the continent now

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<v Speaker 1>at war, and Quasette singled out as a Jew. He

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<v Speaker 1>was swiftly arrested, separated from his family, and then deported

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<v Speaker 1>to a concentration camp in Germany. Quasette would spend most

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<v Speaker 1>of the war working in a factory as a slave

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<v Speaker 1>for the German government. By nineteen forty five, Quisette had

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<v Speaker 1>miraculously survived the war and was eventually able to return home.

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<v Speaker 1>In December of that year, he attended a lecture on

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<v Speaker 1>parapsychology conducted by Professor Villiam Tenhaf of Utrecht University. Quasette's

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<v Speaker 1>life would never be the same again. Professor Tenhaf had

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<v Speaker 1>joined Utrecht University, who were a little wary of his

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<v Speaker 1>chosen field of study, as an external lecturer, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three. Twenty years later, having finally convinced them of

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<v Speaker 1>its merits, he was fully established as its director of Parapsychology.

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<v Speaker 1>When he first met Quasette in nineteen forty five, Tenhaf

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<v Speaker 1>had been examining people for signs of ESP for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't long before he realized that the future Wizard

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<v Speaker 1>of Utrecht was the most impressive subject he had ever

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<v Speaker 1>come across. Over the next ten years, the pair formed

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<v Speaker 1>an unusual relationship. As news of Quasette's apparent abilities began

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<v Speaker 1>to spread further, Afield convinced that his e s P

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<v Speaker 1>was real. It was vital for Tenhof that had been

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrated to work under laboratory conditions. As such, whenever possible,

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<v Speaker 1>the professor insisted that Quisette carry out his work at

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<v Speaker 1>his lab in Utrecht. Quasette, well aware of the skepticism

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding his apparent gift, was more than happy to comply,

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<v Speaker 1>and by nineteen fifty six he and his family had

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<v Speaker 1>even moved to Utrecht to be closer to the university.

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<v Speaker 1>Encouraged by Quasette's apparent academic credibility, it wasn't long before

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<v Speaker 1>local law enforcement began to wander if they might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put him to good use. By the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, Quisette was receiving requests from as far away

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<v Speaker 1>as the United States and Russia to help with everything

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<v Speaker 1>from petty theft to murder. Trying to locate people, however,

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<v Speaker 1>were the cases he liked best, since with serious crime

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<v Speaker 1>there was always the potential for raising false hope or

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<v Speaker 1>contributing to a wrongful arrest. Typically, whenever the police were

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<v Speaker 1>formally involved, an item of clothing relating to a missing

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<v Speaker 1>person or the victim of a crime would be sent

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<v Speaker 1>to Utrecht University, where, under the watchful eye of Professor

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<v Speaker 1>tenhuf Coisette would tell them what he got from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Unexplained podcast. On February twenty se nineteen sixty one, four

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<v Speaker 1>year old Edith Kea Coorius from Brooklyn in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>went with her mother to visit her uncle in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point that day, the young girl was said

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<v Speaker 1>to have been playing outside her uncle's apartment on Eighth

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<v Speaker 1>Avenue in the district of Chelsea when she completely disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next few days, three hundred and fifty police

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<v Speaker 1>conducted one of the widest missing person's searches in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the city in an effort to find a

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<v Speaker 1>young Edith. However, despite searching the many surrounding buildings and rooftops,

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<v Speaker 1>and even dragging the nearby Hudson River, they failed to

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<v Speaker 1>find any sign of her. Having heard about the story,

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<v Speaker 1>the vice president of the Dutch airline company KLM. Ryan Vogels,

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<v Speaker 1>aware of Quisette's involvement in similar cases, suggested flying the

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<v Speaker 1>apparent psychic to New York to see if he might help. Quasette,

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<v Speaker 1>who was eventually tracked down a few days later, was

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<v Speaker 1>more than happy to offer his services. Speaking to him

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<v Speaker 1>over the phone, Vogels offered to fly him out to

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<v Speaker 1>New York at the expense of klem However, Quasette declined

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<v Speaker 1>the invitation, insisting that all he needed was an article

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<v Speaker 1>of clothing belonging to the girl and a street map

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<v Speaker 1>of the city. Vogels replied that he would have the

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<v Speaker 1>necessary items flown over to him immediately. Then came a

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<v Speaker 1>pause from the other end of the line. I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you already, said Quasette. She is not in the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the city. If you were standing with your

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Statue of Liberty, it ought to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the left hand side of New York. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where the child is. I see a tall building, but

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<v Speaker 1>that does not mean a thing. There are many tall

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<v Speaker 1>buildings in New York. But on top of this building,

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<v Speaker 1>I see an orange rectangular advertisement and a garage rolling shutters,

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<v Speaker 1>a square, and a park. I see a railway nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>and rails above street level. Beyond that some rubbish, and

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<v Speaker 1>after that some water. I feel there is a river

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<v Speaker 1>quite near. The man who took the child is small,

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty four or fifty five years old. His origin

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<v Speaker 1>is South European. I see a gray house. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where the child has been. Quisette, who had never before

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<v Speaker 1>been to New York City, had described almost exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>area where Edith had last been seen. A little taken aback,

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<v Speaker 1>Vogels asked, hesitantly, is the child still alive? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid it is dead, came the kurt reply. The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Police Department were equally taken aback by Quisette's description,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly his detail regarding the raised railway line, since it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the few places in Manhattan where such

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<v Speaker 1>a thing existed. The following day, Quisette met with Vogels

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<v Speaker 1>at a hotel in Amsterdam, where he was handed a

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<v Speaker 1>photograph of a child, some of her clothing, and a

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<v Speaker 1>map of New York. Taking hold of the pieces, Quisette

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<v Speaker 1>focused for a moment. Now I have a warm point,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. I see a woman sitting in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a window. Two houses further down, there is a laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>and also a shop where clothes are pressed. I see

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<v Speaker 1>that gray building again. It has I think five floors.

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<v Speaker 1>The man I described yesterday is possibly older, between fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four to fifty eight. He is small, with a tawny

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<v Speaker 1>complexion and a sharp face. The child is in the

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<v Speaker 1>gray house and on the second floor. I get a

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<v Speaker 1>strong emotion. It is in this room that I see

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<v Speaker 1>the child with the man. Later that day, back in Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 1>Detective James Peterson and Patrolman John mcgreeney returned again to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate a boarding house at three o seven West twentieth Street,

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<v Speaker 1>just around the corner from Edith's uncle's home, where she

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<v Speaker 1>had last been seen. Another train rumbled past high up

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<v Speaker 1>on the city's central freight trestle, just two blocks away.

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<v Speaker 1>As the officers approached the gray Stone four story building

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<v Speaker 1>five if you included the basement. Smashing open the front door,

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<v Speaker 1>the officers proceeded to the second floor and continued into

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<v Speaker 1>an apartment that had just recently been vacated, Holding their

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<v Speaker 1>noses from the stench. They found the place littered with

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<v Speaker 1>empty beer cans, a whiskey bottle, half eaten pizza, and

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette butts. On a table, they found a torn out

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<v Speaker 1>photograph of a four year old Caroline Kennedy, daughter of

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<v Speaker 1>the US President, and in the bedroom, lying lifeless on

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<v Speaker 1>the bed was the body of Edith Kia Courius. On

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<v Speaker 1>March first, Fred Thompson, the last person to rent the

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<v Speaker 1>room in which Edith was discovered, was picked up working

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<v Speaker 1>on a New Jersey farm, where he later confessed to

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<v Speaker 1>and killing the young girl. Thompson, although from England and

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<v Speaker 1>not Southern Europe, turned out to be fifty nine and short,

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<v Speaker 1>an average at five foot six, with a sharp nose

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<v Speaker 1>and a tawney complexion. Though there was no orange billboard

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<v Speaker 1>nearby or a garage as described by Quisette, the apartment

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<v Speaker 1>in which Edith's uncle lived was neighbored on one side

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<v Speaker 1>by a laundrette and on the other by a tailor.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't known whether it was Quasette's description of where

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<v Speaker 1>he thought Edith's body to be that led police detectives

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<v Speaker 1>to that ill fated building on West twentieth Street. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>no mention of the Wizard of Utrech's involvement was ever

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<v Speaker 1>included in any subsequent reports. It is said that Quasette

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<v Speaker 1>never once accepted money in return for his services, believing

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<v Speaker 1>instead that since it was a gift from God, it

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