1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. It's Bucky Brooks and I am hosting 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: the Move the Stick Show. But I got a partner, 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: a new partner for the day. Lance Z is in 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: replacing DJ DJ. They're doing all things. Daniel Jeremiah, I 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: think he might be moving his kid in and doing 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: some other stuff. So we got Z sitting in. But 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: it is a perfect day to have LZ because when 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: l Z comes, he brings all that h town swag. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: And we had big news, uh coming from the NFL today. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: The NFL and Shaun Watson have agreed to a deal 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: on a disciplinary settlement. As part of the agreement, he 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: will sit out eleven games and pay a five million 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: dollar fine. That means he is set to return week 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: thirty against who Bay Texas and all the time have 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: been busted And tell you this, no, Bucky, and it 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: always been about the league wanted him suspended long enough 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: that the Texans weren't part of the mix. It didn't 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: make sense to me because look, Deshaun's gonna get booed 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: everywhere he goes. He's gonna get booed in Houston. But 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: he'll actually get more cheers in Houston really than any 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: other city other than Cleveland, because there's still a lot 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: of fans here of Deshaun Watson. Um, so he's gonna 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: get some cheers. He's gonna get a lot of booze 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: because of how he you know, because everything that went 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: down off the field, but also you know the way 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: he handled the breakup with the Houston Texans. But the 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: deal is a five million dollar fine and he suspended 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: eleven games, Bucky, So he'll be back week thirteen, as 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: you mentioned, against the Texans. And that's an interesting number 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: to me because now is there enough in the tank 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: from Jacoby Burssett as a game manager and the defense 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb to keep them in position until Deshaun 34 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Watson gets back? And is Deshaun Watson how is he 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: gonna play after you know, missing all of last year, 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: most of this upcoming season a chunk of it, Like 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: will he be ready to just step right in when 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: everyone else has a lot of football under the belt. 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: So there are a few things to talk about when 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: when we when we think about the deal Nana has 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: been done one eleven games is weird because it's an 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: odd number, not an even number. Normally we've seen these 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: deals where it's like a four or six, eight, ten, twelve, 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: you know, so maybe they split the baby between ten 45 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: and twelve, and eleven is the number. Uh, the five 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: million dollar fine. Um, we understood that. We knew the 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: league was going to go after his pocket because personally, 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I believe there are a lot of people that were 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: certainly upset about the transgressions. I believe that man nearly 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: half as many people were upset about the money and 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: the contract that he signed after being embroiled in the mix. 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who couldn't understand how 53 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: he was able to get the largest fully guaranteed deal 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: in NFL history with this stuff hanging over the head. 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: So from a league perspective, you can't satisfy both entries. 56 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: You take him off the field, you get me a 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: hefty fine. And so that that accomplished that when also 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: buckets it's one million dollar contract this year. So the 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: way Cleveland set it up, a lot of people said, 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, he's gonna get suspended, but the paychecks 61 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: really not even like he won't even be hurt at 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: all financially. So that's another part of it, although I 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: will say that Cleveland has done that with a couple 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: of players, like that's not I know, it looks suspicious 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and maybe some of that was to protect him, but 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: when you look at their cap situation, you could actually 67 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: understand many teams have given have front loaded money in 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: terms of guarantees and and money up front so that 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: they could keep the salary cap numbers low those first 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: two years. So that's that was something I think a 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: lot of people had a problem with. Two is like, 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: wait a minute, his contracts a million, so he's gonna 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: be this is gonna be less than what fifty thousand 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: we're looking at sixty thousand a game is all he's 75 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: gonna lose. So that takes care of them too. That 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: does take care of some of that, and there are 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people that are really upset about the 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: money and all this other stuff. So now we get 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: that out the way. On the field. You know, this 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: is interesting because eleven games is it's a lot, but 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't completely crush the Cleveland Browns. I think when 82 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: you get the twelve and more like lands, that's that's 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot. It's hard to say, hey, guys, We're gonna 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: hold it together, and Deshan is gonna come in riding 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: on his white horse and save the day. I think 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: this is a situation where if you're the Cleveland Browns, 87 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: if I'm the coaching staff, in my mind, I would 88 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: never say this to the players. Man, if we can 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: get to that point six and five, five and six, 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: that will give us a chance to make a run. 91 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: And so what can we do to make sure that 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: Jacoby were set and this team is able to play 93 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: five ball until the star quarterback comes back. Here's your 94 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: games afterwards, you've got the texts. Well after the suspension, 95 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: You've got Texans at Houston. Brown should be a favorite. 96 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: You're at the Bengals would be an underdog. Ravens at Brown's. 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what that's gonna look like right now. 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: Saint sett Brown's, Brown should be a favorite. Browns at Commanders, 99 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: you expect the Browns to probably be a favorite there. 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: And then Brown's at Steelers. So he comes back and 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: you've got division games. Uh, in three of his six 102 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: games he does have division games, so a big impact 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: on on the division state. Like me, personally, I see 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals as a cut above based on where I 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: think the season is gonna go. That's how I personally 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: see it. I don't know what to think about the Ravens. 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: The Ravens had so many injuries last year. I wasn't 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: feeling the Ravens uh And I'm still not headed into 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: the season the same way, not really feeling the Steelers 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: this year. But those are also blue chip teams with 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: long histories of excellence and consistency for a long time. 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: So to write them off with coaches like Mike Tomlin 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: and John Hardball, I think that would also be a mistake. So, um, 114 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see where they are, and I 115 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: think you're right six and man, if you go six 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: and five and then and then you win four of 117 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: the last six ten wins playoffs, that normally has been 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: the formula, even under sixteen game schedule, they would say 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: the magic numbers ten ten wins more times than not 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: over time gets you into the playoffs. So now, if 121 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: you're Kevin Stefanski and the coaches that now that you 122 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: know what you're dealing with, I think it's a lot 123 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: easier now to figure out, Okay, how are we going 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: to play with our team? Is it more a nick 125 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: shell than these guys. We gotta really grind it out. 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Defense have to step up, and let's just hold it 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: down until we can get number four back. I think 128 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: now that you know that, I think it's easier from 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: a planning perspective to get this team in position to 130 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: get it done. You don't freak out, you don't freak 131 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: out if you lose the first two games. You're just 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: trying to get the five. And I think maybe you 133 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: have an opening on this conversation. Hey man, we're just 134 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: trying to make a dash for the cash in the end. 135 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: We're just trying to make it where we're in the 136 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: hunt the last five games of the season, and Deshaun 137 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: Watson has to come ready. But I will say this 138 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: coming off of the heels of watching him in a 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: preseason and I know it's a preseason game, Lance, I 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: felt like in that preseason game he played like he 141 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: had the weight of the world on his shoulders. And 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: even though he only played a couple of series and 143 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: we're like, hey, it's a preseason game, he looked rusty, 144 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: he looked distress. He didn't look like I would say 145 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: the the Pro Bowl quarterback that did it three times 146 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: in Houston. And so now that all of that I 147 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: say is put to bid, I think now over the 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: next eleven or twelve weeks, he really can focus in 149 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: on I gotta put myself in a position where I 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: hit the ground running. He can't be around the facilities, 151 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: he can't practice or whatever, So he's gonna have to 152 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: get with his personal quarterback coach. But he has to 153 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: go to work and he has to find a way 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to hit the ground running. So he's game ready when 155 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: he comes back against the Texas. And that's gonna be 156 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: interesting because you have to imagine that the offense you 157 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: run for Jacoby Brissette, uh and what you ask him 158 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: to do is not going to be the same thing. 159 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Maybe early on it will be, but ultimately you don't 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: want those offenses to look the same. You want to 161 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: give DeShawn Watson more leeway to make plays. But then again, 162 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: based on what you're talking about, Bucky, maybe that is 163 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna be the case. Maybe the offenses are gonna be 164 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: the same because Deshaun Watson hitting the ground running, it's 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. Take a look at the six 166 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: games before the Texans and Brown square off and Deshaun 167 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: Watson's return December four. Here are your games, Patriots at Brown's, 168 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Brown's and Ravens, Bengals at Brown's, Brown's at Dolphins, Brown's 169 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: at Bill's, Buccaneers at Brown's. I'm telling you those are 170 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: six rough games. I mean, I mean, if they get 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: to six wins. And here's a better question. Let's say 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: they're not six and five. Let's say they're three and eight. Um, 173 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Let's say they don't beat the Chargers when the Chargers 174 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: come to town, or they don't beat the Steelers, and 175 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: those are two of the first four games that they're 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna play. Let's say they're three and eight. I wonder 177 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: what the vibe is with the fan base then, because 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: you know how fans get late in the season, if 179 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: they're out of it, they want you to lose everything 180 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: for draft positioning, like fans don't want to see wins. 181 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: But if you're Cleveland, there's something much more important in 182 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: draft positioning, and that's getting Deshaun Watson acclimated with his 183 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: new teammates, with the offense, and really, frankly, getting through 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: this year with a chance to build momentum in the 185 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: next season. So I think there's some really interesting um 186 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: storylines with Cleveland as it pertains to how how did 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: the Browns approach this? As you mentioned for me, I'm saying, look, 188 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, Ernest Johnson, we need you guys because we're 189 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna run, run, run, Nick Chubb, and we need that 190 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: second running back to be ready to go. I know 191 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Kareem Haunts not happy with his contract, but you do 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: have a enough defense and running game to win games, Bucky. 193 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got enough. If if present can move 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: the chains every once in a while on third down 195 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: and not turn the ball over, yeah, they absolutely have 196 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: more than enough to be able to do it. And 197 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: so I think if you are the Cleveland Browns, what 198 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: you're doing is you're trying to piece you know, this 199 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: thing out. Most teams always break the season up in 200 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: the quarters, and so for the Browns, you have to 201 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: think about each quarter. If we can just go five 202 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: in the first quarter of the season, I mean, go 203 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: too into the first month, go two and two the 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: second month, and just have a chance to get to 205 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: that six and five or five and six mark. We 206 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: have to do it now. A lot of the onus 207 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: goes to the defense. Miles Garrett Jadavian Clowney, j ok 208 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: uh denzil A Ward. The defense has to play like 209 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: a top five defense, and they're talented enough to do that, 210 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: but they have to play at a top five level 211 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: because if defense plays lights out, combined with a dominant 212 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: running game, which they should have with Nick Jubb and 213 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, they should be able to keep these games 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: close enough to make it fourth quarter affairs? Can you 215 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: count on jacober said to win some of those, I 216 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: don't know. But defense, running game, they have to play 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: in an a level and everyone in the league knows 218 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: they're gonna run the football. The offensive line has to 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: do it. But the trick is and and really the 220 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: question is they lost their starting center. Yeah, they're they're 221 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: lost a backup center. Now their hodgepods in the middle 222 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: of that offensive line. But that offensive line can't they look, 223 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: they can't set up with the excuses. They have to 224 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: play great. They have to play well for this team 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: to make it. Ethan uh Poe check is the is 226 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: the starting center right now? On the depth chart I'm 227 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: looking at he's got starting reps coming out of Seattle. 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: I remember writing him up at L s U. I 229 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: want to say my first year I was doing this 230 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: for Yeah, center very tall, can play multiple positions, but 231 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, Jeddrick Willis, Jeddrick Wills rather and Joel Betonio 232 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: like him a lot on the left side. Wyatt Teller 233 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: played good on the right side. Jack Conklin losing that 234 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: center though, is the brain trust with Nick Carris. He's 235 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: a very athletic center as well. However, you have a 236 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: guy with starting the experience, so I think you're gonna 237 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: be okay. I think a big, big part of this 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be what does Marie Cooper have outside of 239 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Because we've seen some up and down 240 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: from Amari Cooper. Can a Marie Cooper summoned, you know, 241 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: the playmaking stuff. Can he summoned the productivity? Can he 242 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: and people's jones really take over? And what are you 243 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: gonna get? Also from uh David Bell, the rookie who 244 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: was a poor tester but had good tape. He had 245 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: second round tape, he had seventh round testing, and now 246 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: he went in the third round. Can he step up 247 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: and make plays? That's gonna be key? Also is that 248 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: that that rookie. What's interesting though, is I didn't make 249 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: him as my pivotal rookie. I recently wrote an article 250 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Bucket thirty two Pivotal Rookies, Um, every team's pivotal rookie, 251 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: and let yeah, let's get to it. Let's talk about it. 252 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: So let's start right there. We'll get to the f 253 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: C s. Let's start right there. You talk about the 254 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: AFC North, Who's the pivotal rookie that you're talking about. 255 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: That's I was gonna say. I gave it to Martin Emerson. 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: And here's why. Martin Emerson in the corner out of 257 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: UH out of Mississippi State. You know, I looked at 258 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: David Bell from from UH Perdue, and I just thought, 259 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a run heavy team. I think Emerson, 260 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: who is fighting with Greedy Williams for snaps right now, 261 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and and I think a division where you're trying to 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: battle against the Cincinnati Bengals, where they are a dangerous 263 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: team with a lot of different types of wide receivers, 264 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: I think Emerson could come into play now. I don't 265 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: love having to do pivotal rookie for the Browns because 266 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: they didn't have a first pick until the third round, 267 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: and they had three guys Alex right, Martin Emerson and 268 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: David Bell. To be honest with you, Bucky, you know 269 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: how it is with certain teams. I just don't know 270 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: that a rookie is going to end up being quote 271 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: unquote pivotal for their success. Um. Now, that's for the 272 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: that's for that team. I want to get your opinion 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: on the Ravens because on the other hand, you have 274 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: Tyler linder Bomb. I had to decide between Tyler linder 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Bomb and Kyle Hamilton's and I ended up going with 276 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: linder Bomb, And I want to see what you think 277 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: on here. I know Hamilton's has gotten a lot of 278 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: uh got a lot of attention up to this point, 279 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and not always for for great things. You know, his 280 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: his coverage skills have been lacking when he's had to 281 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: flip the hips and runs but run. But I mean 282 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: that was on tape. There was never a doubt that 283 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: was gonna be the issue for him. He's got to 284 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: play downhill. But even though I think Kyle Hamilton's is 285 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: still a very talented player, I just felt like getting 286 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: that running game going again, Tyler linder Bomb, getting him 287 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: back and healthy. I think he's more pivotal than Hamilton's 288 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: because the running game for me is who the Ravens are, 289 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: and yes, Lamar is part of that running game. But 290 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: getting j K. Dobbins rolling again, getting the holes the 291 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: outside zone um himmed up again. I think having a 292 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: guy like Tyler lender Baum to me, I felt like 293 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: he was maybe more pivotal for their success than Kyle 294 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Hamilton's who's got a couple of good safety the safeties 295 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: he's already playing with. Yeah, Lenar Bond to me is 296 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the key. Last year there were times, man, the Baltimore 297 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: Ravens couldn't get a snap going back two years in 298 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs, they couldn't get the snap. The quarterback centers 299 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: change was faulty and so it hurt them. Now you 300 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you bring in a guy who was not only a 301 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: guy who's one of the best centers that we've seen 302 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: in the college game for a while. Even though we 303 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: can talk about picking him apart because of the arm 304 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: length and maybe some of the strength deficiencies, there's no 305 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: doubt that he is a technician coming out of Iowa. 306 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: And the last time that the Baltimore Ravens, I would say, 307 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: roll the dice a little bit on Iowa interior block. 308 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: It was Marsha Yonder, and we saw how they worked 309 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: out for him. The big thing for the Ravens getting 310 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson back, having the comfort level with the rookie center. 311 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: How are the pieces around the Ricky Center where they 312 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: can take pressure off of him. Remember Ronnie Stanley comes 313 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: back off of that injury, and if he's anything like 314 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: he was prior to the injury, are you're talking about 315 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: a dominant offensive line that can pound it and smash it. 316 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Two tight ends that they drafted um Colar and Isaiah 317 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,239 Speaker 1: Likely coming from coast to Carolina to go with Mark Andrews. 318 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: This Ravens team is turning back the clock to Lamar 319 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Jackson's m v P year in the style of offense 320 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: that they played with the big boys on the field 321 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: and just cramming it down your throat. If I'm a 322 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: Linden bomb is what we think he could be. They 323 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: get right back to doing it. They get right back 324 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: to playing the dial up. And that's why pivotal does 325 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: not mean in every case in my article, the the 326 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: guy that I think is gonna be the best player 327 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: long term, or even the best player this year. It's 328 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: the most important and I think if linder Bomb doesn't 329 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: play well, that's also pivotal. That means they're in some trouble. 330 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: So pivotal means I think he's the most important for success. Now. 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to take it to the to to Deshaun Watson. 332 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: We talked about him earlier. I want to take him 333 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: to go back to the former team, the Houston Texans, 334 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: where I am. You know, Derek Stingley was the third 335 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: pick of the draft, but the third team pick was 336 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: Kenyan Green. And then you've got Jalen Petrie that is 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: just bawling out in in UH in practice, and he's 338 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: a guy that's been the most active, the most eye opening. 339 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: Kenyan Green has an injury right now, he is not playing. 340 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley. They're bringing along UH slowly. He did not 341 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: play in the preseason game. I feel like though, when 342 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: it comes to pivotal, it's Kenyan Green. And the reason simple. 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: You got to a establish a running game. Pet Hamilton's 344 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: wants to run the football. He wants to run it better. 345 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: Um and I think Kenyan Green as a as a 346 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: as a people mover, as a as a moving service 347 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: who will take your boxes from point A to point 348 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: B without you even wanting them to, you know, to me, 349 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: I want that. That's what I want, Buck is. I 350 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: want to start that attitude. And if you're gonna rebuild 351 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: a team, it starts with the trenches and it starts 352 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: with attitude and the right attitude. And I think Kenyan 353 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Green has that. I think also Jalen Petrie has that 354 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: as well. But I want to get your thought on 355 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: that the offensive lineman as I'm wearing my Joe A 356 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: More shirt, my Joe Moore Award shirt sign. You know, 357 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: I I stay in the offensive line obviously. However, I 358 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: do think that attitude maybe is even more pivotal to 359 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: to install that with pet Hamilton's as opposed to Derek 360 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: Stanley at the corner, because I do think, you know, corner, 361 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: the corner position sometimes is gonna take a little longer 362 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: to really click in the NFL. So I'm not expecting 363 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: incredible things from Derek Stanley in year one. No, I 364 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: agree with you with Kenyan Green. He's one of my 365 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: favorites in the draft. He's one of my favorites because 366 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: he did have that nasty attitude. I feel like Kenyan 367 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: green is display in practice has encouraged David's mill to 368 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: make some of the statements that he has made about 369 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: the Texas being maybe the league's biggest surprise. There is 370 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: something that they're seeing on tape where Kenyan Green is 371 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: absolutely whipping people. That the line of scrimmage where everybody 372 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: feels like they can put their chest out a little 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: bit and say that we're gonna be a little more physical, 374 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: a little more aggressive when it comes to running the ball, 375 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: and so I like it. I will say this though 376 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I know you're there in the city, but everything that 377 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: I'm getting back on Derek Stingley is that Derek Stanley 378 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: is that dude he was his freshman year, not the 379 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: one we saw the last two years. The cliffs that 380 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: I'm catching, this dude is covering like he is a 381 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: trustee KG veteran who is unafraid. I think that is 382 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: scary if they hit on him. Because Levy Smith wants 383 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: to play more man to man. They played a lot 384 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: of man last year. But now if he actually has 385 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: man corners who can play man, Yeah, this defense is 386 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: okay because the defense gave people problems last year. Yeah, 387 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: they would they would be better than expected for the 388 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: first half and then they would run out of Gas. Well, 389 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: now you have, as you mentioned, you've added Jalen Petrie, 390 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: You've added uh, Derek Stingley. Um, it's interesting. There's a 391 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: bunch of names on that. If I pull up their 392 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: their depth chart, I'm like, wait, I wrote this guy, wait, 393 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: I wrote this guy. This. They got a bunch of 394 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: guys who are kind of washouts in contract one that 395 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: did not live up to the hype necessarily. But listen 396 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: to some of these names that you'll be like, oh, 397 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: he plays there, he plays there. I'll give you an example. 398 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: You've got um Well, Tremont Smith, who was a cornerback 399 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: with good special teams potential and value. M J. Stewart, 400 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Stewart coming out of n See your your guy. So 401 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: he's on the roster right now. Fabian Moreau out of 402 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: U c. L A. Is over there. You know, Eric 403 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: Murray Stephen Nelson is gonna be one of the starting corners. 404 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: Isaac Yattam, the long cornerback out of Boston College, is 405 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: on the team. Jalen Reeves, Maybin out of Detroit, Blake Cashman, Uh, 406 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I can't remember who drafted Blake Jake Hanson. Like a 407 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes that I remember we're top four round picks. 408 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: Reshime the dream Green from USC is on the is 409 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: on the roster. So a bunch of guys who were drafted, 410 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: uh Philip Dorset, who was a first round pick. There's 411 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who who didn't get it done 412 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: at other locations. And and Nick as Sario is basically saying, height, weight, speed, length, 413 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: let's let's go get the traits and let's see if 414 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: we can get a reclamation project going here. I mean 415 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: some of that the patents have been able to do. 416 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Some of that other teams have been able to do. 417 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: Just because it doesn't work out him once, but it 418 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the player can't play. Put him in 419 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: a situation in a system that might extenuate their skills, 420 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: and you may uncover the player that many were excited 421 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: about doing the draft process. For the Texans, this is 422 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: the demon. You watched him every week because they're right 423 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: there locally. But I feel like they played hard. I 424 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: feel like they really responded to love you Smith, particularly 425 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: on defense. If he is able to get the rest 426 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: of the team going, and if Pelp Hamilton's continues to 427 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: do what he's done with previous quarterbacks, David's Mills is 428 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: going to make another leap in year two and we're 429 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: talking about a very talented, talented prospect coming out. He 430 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: just didn't have enough college games eleven starts. I want 431 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: to say coming out of Stanford. Well, now if pel 432 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Hamilton's gets him going, yeah, Look, it may not look pretty, 433 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: but there's no reason why we can't talk about them 434 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: being one of these uh I call him hustle hard teams. 435 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: They don't be necessarily we did talent, but they beat 436 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: you just because they are working for four quarters. They 437 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: have enough talent to win in that regard. Look out 438 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: for Nico Collins too. I think you're gonna see a 439 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: much bigger year and year two from Nico did not 440 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: play in because of COVID opt out, so um, I 441 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a big, big, jumping productivity and 442 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: talent from Nico Collins. Let's take it to the Titans. 443 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to see what you think. The answer is here. 444 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two names. Traylon Burke's as the 445 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: most pivotal or Roger McCreary cornerback is most pivotal for 446 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: the Titans. Based on what you know about the Titans, 447 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: where they stand in the a f C, where they 448 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: stand in the NFC South. Who do you think is 449 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: the most pivotal guy in your opinion between these two, 450 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: because this is what it came down to. For me, 451 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: I think Traylon Burke's is the most pivotal. But here's 452 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: why I'm worried about him being the most pivotal. They 453 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: gave up a proven commodity and A J. Brown, big 454 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: physical receiver who was their number one receiver who really 455 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: worked well with Ryan Tannehill. Now they may have thought 456 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: that they got a clone and trade line Burns, but 457 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: the reports that I've seen coming out of Tennessee have 458 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: not been great on the young prospect from Arkansas. Questions 459 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: about his conditioning, his fitness level, uh, not always available 460 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: to practice and finished practices, and separation. Can he separate 461 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: enough so all the things that were concerns a little 462 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: bit for a guy who appeared to have some big 463 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: body blow up potential, those concerns have been realized, and 464 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: so can he figured out quickly in the season and 465 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: gives them some of the production that A. J. Brown 466 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: used to give them on the perimeter. I think one 467 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: thing that's interesting is he had issues with being heavy 468 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: and out of condition heavy and he wanted to be 469 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: an out of condition and the the initial rookie minicamp 470 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: came back into camp had lost weight, so he's actually 471 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: lighter now. He blamed it, but he took accountability. He said, 472 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: my conditioning wasn't where it needed to be. Now. He 473 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: did say he had an asthma issue and he had 474 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: to push through asthma. As somebody who's been an asthmatic 475 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: my whole life, you don't really push through asthma. You 476 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: take your medicine and you're good for the rest of 477 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: the day. I mean, there's a difference. I could sit 478 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: and run right now and immediately be huffing and puffing 479 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: to tell you my asthma's got me now. That's being 480 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: out of shape. That's it's not always asthma when you're 481 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: out of shape. So I think asthma may have been 482 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: an issue, but he also said not my conditioning, uh 483 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: was an issue. So we'll see if he grows up. 484 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: He did show some positive signs from from camp where 485 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: he came in lighter when they made it into camp. 486 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: Because when he went into that original rookie minicamp, as 487 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: you're mentioning Bucky. That's where the negative stuff came from. 488 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Is he was not It wasn't everything you said was 489 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: an issue. I know there's been some more positivity about 490 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: his conditioning since he came back, and sometimes and sometimes 491 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 1: guys just need to learn how to be a pro 492 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: um and maybe that will happen for him. I made 493 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: Roger McCreary for some of the same reasons. I just 494 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: think they've got some there's some holes in that secondary 495 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: and I think McCreary is going to be very, very important. 496 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: If Tennessee wants to play at a high level, they're 497 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: gonna have to cover better on the back end. So 498 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I actually and at the end of the day, the 499 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Titans are gonna be a run first team anyway. So 500 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: I ended up saying McCreary over Burke's. But I thought 501 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: that was to me the tough choice. Let me go 502 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: to the the n f C West. This one was hard. 503 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Sky More, George, Carl Loftis, and Trent McDuffie. You have 504 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: three guys that I think are gonna play important roles 505 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: this year for the Chiefs. I went with McDuffie, but 506 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: I could make an argument for car Loftis or sky 507 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: more with the quickness. I just feel like, Okay, I'm 508 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: playing the Raiders, I'm playing the Chargers and I'm playing 509 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's a lot of throwing and that's gonna happen. 510 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: And all those teams other than the Chiefs just got 511 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: better as it came to their passing attack. Yeah, they 512 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: all got better. Um, this division is absolutely loaded off 513 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: as a firefrower. I mean you talk about the quarterbacks, 514 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: you talk about the playmakers on the perimeter, you have 515 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: to have uh guys on the on the outside that 516 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: can hold there on these one on one matchups. Now, 517 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: I would say that Carl Loftis, to me, is maybe 518 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: a more valuable or maybe a more pivotal piece because 519 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: one thing that I know is if I knocked the 520 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: quarterback down, I don't have to worry about covering. And 521 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: even though Carl Loftis is more of a power player 522 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: than a finesse mover, he has pass rush ability and 523 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: he is also one of those relentless guys off the 524 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: edge if he can do what I would call the 525 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Trade Hendrickson thing right where he's able to just work hard, 526 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: outwork them, hustle sutheline the sideline make plays in that 527 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: regard because that's how he did it at for a dude. 528 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: And if you can give them double digit sacts playing 529 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: alongside Chris Jones and opposite Frank Clark, that's a perfect, 530 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: perfect scenario for the Kann City Chiefs to be able 531 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: to deal with what they're going to face in this 532 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: division this year. I don't have a problem with it. 533 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: And I really struggle with that one because you know, 534 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: I think you can also make a case for sky 535 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: Moore if you wanted to, about you know, being able 536 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: to replace that that slot targeted guy who's really kind 537 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: of a game ready player as well. So I think 538 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: that one's a very interesting one. The Chargers, we already 539 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to go read. I'll just tell 540 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: you Zion Johnson. That's that's a no brainer. Raiders are 541 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: tougher Raiders are Don't you think it's Zion and you 542 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: think somebody else is more pivotal? Oh oh no, I'm 543 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: just telling you. Down there, they're raving about Zion Johnson. 544 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Zion is gonna have been in there raving about him 545 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: like they raved Abbershawns later last year. They feel like 546 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: they got two good young players to build around. So 547 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: now you think about those two coordinates, there's a lot 548 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: of reasons that prob him as people always look to 549 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: the outside. One of the reasons the Charges may be 550 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: better is because they're gonna be able to dominate on 551 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: the inside, which also means they may be able to 552 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: run the ball. So my fantasy tip is, hey, go 553 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: get Spiller. He may have a gang of carries running tide. Yeah. Yeah, 554 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: And don't forget now he his A and M offensive line. 555 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: They replaced four starters last year and they were not 556 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: good to start the season. I think that costs him 557 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: of his hesitation. I think the Isaiah Spiller you saw 558 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: the year before it is probably the one you're gonna 559 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: see what the Chargers and that is going to be 560 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: better than the one uh that was on tape one 561 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: that we looked at. So that's a that's a good call, Buck, 562 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: that's a good late round sleep or or undrafted free 563 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: agent to keep an eye I mean, uh uh, you know, 564 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: a free agent, uh for your fantasy leagues to keep 565 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: an eye on. I totally agree. Here's the hardest one 566 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: of the entire article. The Jets I've got I've got 567 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson, and Breece Hall four 568 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: picks inside the first thirty six. Who is the most 569 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: pivotal of those of those players? Um, you gotta have 570 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: a wide receiver for your quarterback. You need somebody to 571 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: finally defend on the outside at cornerback. You need rush, 572 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: They've needed rush forever. And Breeze Hall is a three 573 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: down running back. So who is the most pivotal? I 574 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: thought this was the toughest, the toughest decision I had 575 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: to make. I would say I've given the situation with 576 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Even if he returns early in the season, 577 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to have these fancy 578 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: plans that they have for him. Based on the knee injury. 579 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: He may not be able to begin on the pirmative. 580 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: He may have to operate with a knee brace on, 581 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: which would limit his mobility. The best way that you 582 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: can help him is you've gotta have a dominant running game, 583 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: So Breeze Hall and Michael Carter have to be able 584 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: to take turns kind of grinding it out and catching 585 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: passes and doing things uh. In this offense, Breeze all 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: is terrific when you watch him. Uh to me, he 587 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: humorized me of a little poor man's Levian Bill and 588 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: Levian's Prime. If he can give them some of that 589 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: RB one wide receiver to stuff, this offense will continue 590 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: to be successful with Joe Flacco at him. I'm gonna 591 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: take in the NFC and I'm gonna make it hard 592 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: for you again. Evan Neil or Cavon Tipodeaux. I had 593 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: to figure out my I'll remember Cavan's listening probably, so 594 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: if you want that smoke again. Oh, he said the 595 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: game was slow. The game was slow, my god. Like 596 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: I try and tell him, like, hey man, don't give 597 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: him the quotables. Trying to stay up the quotable. Uh man, 598 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: So let's go. Evan Neil being pivotal because it's pivotal 599 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: because if I'm Joe Shane and Brian day Ball, I 600 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: am looking at my quarterback Daniel Jones, and I'm trying 601 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: to make an assessment and determinational whether he's going to 602 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: be the franchise guy. I'm worried because right now we're 603 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: we're having the coach a man. We just gotta make 604 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: sure ty Rod is ready, ready for what like ready 605 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: for an injury, like the backup always has to be ready. 606 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: In that regard, when you're giving him more reps, it 607 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: might mean that you're a little insecure about what you 608 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: have at the QB one spot. And so the offensive 609 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: line is going to be pivotal because regardless of who 610 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: plays quarterback for this team, they're gonna have to be 611 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: able to dominate the line of scrimmage because you need 612 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: to run the ball with Sae Kwan, you also need 613 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that quarterback as a fortress set up 614 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: in front of it. That was my same thought too. 615 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as they need rush, they've got 616 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: to fix the offensive line. They've got to get it 617 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: right because your last, you know, two of your most 618 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: important first round picks, Sa Kuan and Daniel Jones. I'm 619 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: to the point now where I just I don't think 620 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: no matter what Sa Kuan does, I just don't know 621 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: that they're gonna pay him with the Giants. But you 622 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: still need them to be successful. On Daniel Jones for 623 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: everything that you mentioned, That's why Andrew Thomas getting better 624 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: in year three and Evan Neil stepping in and being 625 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: more than functional but solid right tackle. It is critical 626 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: for the Giant. So that's why I think from a 627 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: pivotal standpoint, no doubt, you at least get a look 628 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: at Daniel Jones with a a functional to maybe even 629 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: uh slightly above average maybe offensive line. You you're at 630 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: least like average, so you can see, Okay, what does 631 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones look like at least with an average line 632 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: before we cast him off and look at another quarterback. 633 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to know that one. Now, another 634 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: team that I thought was was was kind of interesting 635 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: and a little bit tougher was the Eagles. Jordan Davis 636 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 1: or na Kobe Dean. So you got Nakobe Deane who 637 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: can run a but part of his success is he 638 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: gets to play behind a guy like Jordan Davis. Ken 639 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, They've got a decent defensive line. Who is 640 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: more pivotal for the Eagles success? Would it be uh 641 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Davis or would it be uh Nakobe Dean? And 642 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: your in your opinion between those two players. Nicobe Dean 643 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: has been the buzz of Kim And it's so funny 644 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: because I did this and I knew when I watched 645 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: him up close in person at the combine, I knew 646 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I shouldn't get caught up in watching him, uh, seeing 647 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: the size and seeing just how small he was in 648 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: comparison to everybody else, because that would take away from 649 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: the evaluation that you see on film. All film to 650 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: do looks like the best player on their defense and 651 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Lance that's saying something because I've been down in Jacksonville 652 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: and I've watch Trayvon Walker absolutely put his hands on 653 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: folks like a grown man playing with kids. And I've 654 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: seen what Jordan Davis is doing walking offensive lineman back 655 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: and one on one drills. Kay Walker making plays as 656 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: a sideline the sideline player. But when you turn on 657 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: the Georgia table, the best player on their defense was 658 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean, and you're hearing the conversations coming out 659 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: of Philly, like, man, this dude to jump right in 660 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: and it ain't too big for him. He's doing what 661 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: he's always done. And so to me, he's Pavol because 662 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: they haven't had a second level playmaker and linebacker man 663 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: in a long time. I think you also have to 664 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: look at the division. Washington has a player and in 665 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson, who can catch the ball in the backfield. 666 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: You've got Dallas who you know, can spread you out 667 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: and and and force your linebackers to match out match up. Ye. 668 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: I think when you look at how how they're built, 669 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: that's that's really critical to UM in terms of the 670 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: division and the Kobe Dean. Yeah, that's a that's a 671 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: good one. Let me give you a couple more before 672 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: we jet. This is one that I struggled with. I've 673 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: got Drake London as a first round player. I made 674 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter the third rounder though, the most pivotal. And 675 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: here's why. I went back to the Texans and I said, 676 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: you know what, third round quarterback, uh, Davis Mills did 677 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: not start the season. It was to Rod Taylor. But 678 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: the Texans got an idea of Davis Mills in year one. 679 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: What about the idea that Cincinnati at some point Mariota 680 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: is just a bridge guy, that's all he's gonna be. 681 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: So what about the idea that maybe it's gonna be 682 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: more pivotal that the Falcons get the same type of 683 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: look on Ritter. So they have an idea of what 684 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: they have as early as year one. The same way 685 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: the Texans, who are also a rebuilt team at the time, 686 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: and the Falcons are clearly a rebuilt team right now, 687 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: maybe you get a look at who Desmond Ritter is. 688 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: Is he that guy? Does he have what it takes 689 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: that we can say, Okay, cool, we're going to go 690 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: into next year because you're gonna have a high pick. Falcons. 691 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry tell you this, but you're gonna have a 692 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: high pick. So if you're sitting there looking at one 693 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: of these top quarterback prospects, wouldn't you like to know 694 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: if you've got a guy and Ritter that might be 695 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: able to allow you to pick a different position or 696 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: even move that pick. I mean, how valuable would that 697 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: be as well? I think a tremendous very. I think 698 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: it's really important and imperative for this team to know 699 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: what they have in Desmond Ritter, if Marks Mariota falters 700 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: at all, or if the team is just bad the 701 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: first half of the season, you have to been the 702 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: second half trying to figure out what you have at quarterback. 703 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: Now you want to make those decisions with Desmond Ridder 704 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: compared to the quarterbacks and the stars to the class 705 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: that we should see in but still you want to 706 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: see if the young guy can play. Got a chance 707 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: to watch him against the Detroit lines and preseason actually 708 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: didn't look too bid for him. The completion rate in 709 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: the efficiency wasn't what you wanted it to be, but 710 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you certainly can work with it and build around. And 711 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: so it's just one of those things that you have 712 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: to continue to see Candy young guy play. Here's a 713 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: couple more for you before we go. Um and of course, 714 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: if you guys want to really can go to NFL 715 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: dot com and read the thirty two pivotal rookies for 716 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: each your team. Once again, pivotal is up for debate. 717 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: You can define it how you want to. I defined it, 718 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: uh in the article, so you can see New Orleans Saints. 719 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of giving you some teams with if with 720 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: A or B, Trevor Penning or Chris Alave. I thought 721 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: this one was a tougher one. Was most pivotal for 722 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: the Saints this year. This is a tough one. Uh. 723 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Normally in the situation, always excu for the trench warriors 724 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: over the big play guys on the perimeter. Uh. My 725 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: thing we're penning is this, I mean, when's it gonna 726 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: cut it? All the silliness at the line of scrimmage, 727 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: of fighting and all the other stuff. I thought that 728 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: was just a senior Bowl. I'm a tough guy. Deal. 729 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: At some point, man he can he can't engage in 730 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: this kind of behavior for this team to continue to win. 731 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: That's it. He's important because the offensive line, the running game, 732 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: the Saints ability to play what we call big boy 733 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: football is critical. With Jamis Winston, I don't want to 734 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: be in a situation where I have to throw thirty 735 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 1: fus times. I want to be in a situation where 736 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: maybe I want to throw because we have favorable matchups. 737 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: And so there's a difference in that meaning that I 738 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: don't want the defense dictating the terms. I want to 739 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: dictate the terms to how we attack them in the 740 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: past game. And the only way we can do that 741 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: is are running the ball effectively, and then when we 742 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: do it like the pass, we want to make sure 743 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: that the quarterback is upright in the pocket. Here's another 744 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: one for you, the forty Niners Spencer Burford, which that 745 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: name is gonna surprise a lot of people who aren't 746 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: paying attention to San Francisco, But the fourth round rookie 747 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: is starting at right guard in that uh zone heavy 748 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: running game, and that's something that you know they need 749 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: to be able to run the football. Well, So you 750 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 1: got a rookie fourth rounder at right guard or back 751 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: up outside pass rusher who has buzzed over at Niners 752 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: camp according to people who I've you know, I've spoken 753 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: with who have been out there at camp, Drake Jackson. 754 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: So which one of those two guys do you think 755 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: his most pivotal Drake Jackson the pass rusher, Spencer Burford, 756 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: the starting rookie offensive lineman. M hm, yes's even uh. 757 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: We've seen the Niners do a lot in the run 758 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: game with just unholded players and multiple spots front line 759 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: in the backfield. So I'm gonna go with the pass rusher, 760 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson. Drake Jackson was a heart evaluation because it 761 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: depended on which Drake Jackson you were looking at. It 762 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of reminds you of like when people were talking 763 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: about listening to Luther Van Dross was a big Luther, 764 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: a little Luther. And so that's the big team with 765 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson, With Drake Jackson. What you want to know 766 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: if here and now, Yeah, this big Drake Jackson, You're like, Okay, 767 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: he's heavy handed, he's not athletic, but man, he can 768 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: get after it. Drake was better than small Drake. Yeah, 769 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of like big Big Luther was. Yeah, Big Lutheran 770 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: was better. I think. I think with Drake he was 771 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: out of position because when they made him lighter, they 772 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: put him in space and did all this other stuff. 773 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: I felt like he was better when he was heavy 774 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: handed near the point of attack. Yeah, I went with 775 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson over Burford. I was set to go with Burford, 776 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: but the fact is Kyle Shanahan has been you know, 777 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: he's been on offensive lines where it has really learned. 778 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, you can find guys. You can find 779 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: guys they have to have certain athletic traits, you coach 780 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: them up, and you can find guys to plug in. 781 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: And Burford is very important. Clearly, he's important in terms 782 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: of interior protection and helping the running game get going. 783 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: I'm not debating that. I just think when it comes 784 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: to rush, you know, if you're gonna prioritize a guard 785 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: or a pass rusher, well all day, the more pivotal 786 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: player is going to be a guy that can go 787 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: and get the quarterbacks. So if they're able to get 788 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback with Nick Boss on one side and then 789 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: sub packaged rush with with Drake Jackson on the other side, 790 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: that's just so critical, uh to too high end success. 791 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: So I think especially when you're playing the Rams or 792 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, if you're trying to play or Aaron Rodgers 793 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: at the highest level, you gotta have rush from both sides. 794 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I ended up going with uh Drake Jackson 795 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: there as well. For people who want to check out 796 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: the article, it's at NFL dot com. It's thirty two. 797 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: Most are the thirty two pivotal rookies, one for each team, 798 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: and go take a look at your favorite team and 799 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: hit me on Twitter. Tell me if you agree or disagree. 800 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be a hater anyway, so just 801 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: come and bring it no matter. I mean, I got 802 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: a mute button and I clapped back, so it's either way, 803 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: I'm good. A look, I've been looking at Hard Knocks 804 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: and the love for Malcolm right what, yeah, rigo, he 805 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: can play it. So here here's the thing I remember 806 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: watching him, and it's one of those things like in TV, 807 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: we we don't have enough time to really talk about everybody, right, 808 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: so we kind of hear the buzz and oh he's 809 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a fourth and fifth rone pick. But then 810 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, man, I saw the tape and it's dude, 811 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: This dude makes wrestling background tough and physical champ wrestler. Right, yeah, 812 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: it's like high end wrestler. Like so so last I'm 813 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: watching Hard Knocks and I'm watching the tape and he 814 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: is a heat seeking missile when it comes to contact. 815 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: And the way that the coaches are getting excited. It's 816 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: easy to see why they're excited when they played the 817 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: tape back instincts, his ability to come down and engage. 818 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he is in old school square body inside 819 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: backer who wants look. He wants to smoke. He wants 820 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: all the smoke inside. But he's five eleven two thirty 821 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: two with thirty and one eight arms, so he's a 822 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: short armed guy. He has good size. I mean, five 823 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: eleven two thirty two is not bad Sam Mills type size. 824 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: But when I watched him, I swear on everything. I'm like, man, 825 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm watching a little more athletic version 826 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: and more athletic version of Zach Thomas. The way Zach 827 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: Thomas used to seek and destroy and the way the 828 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: big gass neck that he's got, Like you talked about 829 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: square body, Uh, brick mail house. I mean, a brick 830 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: mailbox is what he looks like. But his ability, I 831 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: mean it's a guy with buck thirty nine and a 832 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: half vert. He had a rod jump, super explosive, So 833 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: you take explosive, tough, instinctive, and he made a ton 834 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: of plays in the in in the passing game and 835 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: his ball production when he dropped in coverage because he's instinctive. 836 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: His tackle numbers were off the charts, like everything that 837 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: you would like. He just didn't hit some physical dimensions. 838 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: He falls down the board to sixth round. But for me, Bucky, 839 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: I projected him in the fourth because the fourth round 840 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: is where you put these high end players who just 841 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: lacked some physical traits. I thought you stick him in 842 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: the fourth round. And I gotta say, I'm not surprised 843 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: that Malcolm Rodriguez is popping off this early in camp 844 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: because he's a really good football player. That's just what 845 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: he is. And I think it's another reminded that when 846 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: we're doing this thing and we're going through the draft 847 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: at you can't get caught up in just the workout 848 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: warrior part of uh the evaluation. You gotta look at 849 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: the tape man. He was a great player in Oklahoma State, 850 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, and that defense that Jim Knowles had, 851 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: he might have been the jack, which was kind of 852 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: like the guy that moved around and did a bunch 853 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: of different things. I just remember the thunk that he brings. 854 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: And so when you talked about the explosives, the thirty 855 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: nine inch vertical, the ten foot broad jump, combined with 856 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: the leverage that he learned and displayed as a wrestler, Oh, 857 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: he's an all day sucker. And because today's game we 858 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: don't have true fullbacks and we got these uh h 859 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: backs that are masquerading as as lead blockers. He is 860 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: absolutely obliterating them in the hole. Bucky. This are my 861 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: strengths from the Scotty Report. Team captain and brain of 862 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 1: the defense. Plays with a healthy level suspicion, priest snap instinct, 863 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: to feel for blacking schemes and by the way, that's 864 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: super important to recognize blocking schemes and to know what 865 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: a running game is doing what it's supposed to look 866 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: like is critical. Stays clean, sifting through the through traffic 867 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: in the box. Like guys didn't hit him when he 868 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 1: was sifting, uh made three hundred and nineties seven tackles 869 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: over four years. Elite wrestling background shows up in his 870 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: tackling targets, thighs and wraps to finish with strong core force, 871 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: thirteen fumbles, early influencer on punt and kick cover teams. 872 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: Like it was all there. The tape showed exactly who 873 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 1: he's gonna be now he's got to play. He looks 874 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: good on hard knocks, he looks good in the preseason. 875 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: But I have no doubt that he's gonna end up 876 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: making a bunch of plays. Hey, um, I want to 877 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: mention this too. I was watching this before I came on, 878 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: just as a little a little kicker here a sports documentary. 879 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Man Titano documentary on Netflix, told Wild Wild, 880 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he was. I don't keep up 881 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: with recruiting as much as some people, so I didn't know. 882 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: He was like set to go to USC and he 883 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: had this conversation right before he was gonna go announce, 884 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: and he felt this pulled the Notre Dame based on 885 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: the conversation, and someone said he's a person of great faith, 886 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know from him going to USC, 887 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember you were you were in 888 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: town when he signed, probably right? Uh with the Notre Dame. 889 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: Was there a bunch of buzz about him being the 890 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: USC trojan back in the day. Well, he always was, 891 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: like to cast me out. I think people have to 892 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: go back and realize, like the hoax overshadowed what people 893 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: talked about. He was expected to be a big time player. 894 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, he made a ton of plays for the defensive. 895 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: That's he played in the National title game, right, I 896 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: guess Alabamah. Yeah, Yeah, he was the focal point of 897 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: that defense. And when you watched him, like now, his career, 898 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean he still carved out a pretty long career 899 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: someone who didn't ever really start. But look, man, he 900 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: was everything there, little square box body coming down and 901 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: making plays, had great instincts. But it sounds like Malcolm Rodriguez. Yeah, 902 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: this situation overshadow Yeah, his stuff heading into the draft, 903 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: and you know, without giving away the next look thing like, 904 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: it's really unfortunate. Um, I would say that's the best 905 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: way to describe. It's just really unfortunate the way that 906 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: it played out, because it certainly left scars and did 907 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: damage to him and his reputation and all that other stuff. 908 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: So it's great that it came out, but yeah, he 909 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: was he was cast me out, yeah, big time. I 910 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: mean it was conversations about him or Manzel. I remember 911 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: for that Heisman Trophy and that's a linebacker and he 912 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: had a lot of buzz for Heisman Trophy that year. 913 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: So um, really interesting docs. So far. I have not 914 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: finished it. I'm in the early stages. But one of 915 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: those guys that when the draft there's always storylines that 916 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: are bubbling that one happened to be on the surface 917 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: because there's always stuff behind the scenes going on on 918 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys lives, sometimes positive, sometimes negative, 919 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: sometime troubling, sometime you know, heroic or exciting or um. 920 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: Lots of stories for us to get into down the road, certainly, 921 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: and and hopefully you guys enjoyed some of the stories 922 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: about some of these guys or at least a week 923 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: wait we see them headed into the season. But man, 924 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this year. But yeah, I'm excited too, 925 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to bring you back on because 926 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to start digging into this class. Everyone's 927 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: talking about these quarterbacks. I got a chance to be 928 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: around uh, Bryce Young and c J. Stroud, Uh, some 929 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: of these other guys that will lead eleven. Uh. And 930 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 1: it's different that conversation that we had about the quarterbacks 931 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 1: this year. I won't be the same conversation next year 932 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: because there are a lot there's a lot of buzz 933 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: about what is to come, but one thing that I 934 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: know is to come. We will get LZ back on 935 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: the Movie six podcast here in a few weeks, just 936 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: talking about what's going on before we get into the 937 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: college football season. Thanks so much for stepping in for 938 00:47:51,120 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: DJ today. Lance. I appreciate you man do to people play, 939 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: pet play people up. Patt