1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Happy new Year, Welcome to the show. Yes, 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: we are in studio today, the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Happy new Year. 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: It's January first of twenty twenty six. I'm still running 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five on my checks, just kidding. Nobody has 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: checks anymore. But I've been labeling things today and getting 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: used to twenty six. And here we are. It's a 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: new year for the Texans in that Yes, the season 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: continues from twenty twenty five, with the regular season finale 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But come on, this is it. You're heading 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: into the postseason next week. It is gonna be awesome. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: John McClain joins us tonight. So let's get right to 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: it here. General, as the Texans are in they'll face 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: the Colts Sunday. 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Let me start right here. How should they? How will they? 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the handling of this one 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: with the hope that the Jags lose to the Titans 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: somehow your thoughts? 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy new. 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Year to you guys. And by the way, when you 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: write me that check, feel free to put two twenty 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: five want it? I think that somebody will be keeping 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: a close eye of Jacksonville game, Jaguars ought to kill 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 3: the Titans, and nobody will ever say this, but right now, 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: Texans should win. Jaguars should win, so the Texans be 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: the top seed, and the way it's stacking up, they'd 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: be going to Baltimore, and they never want in Baltimore 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: to this year. As you guys know, Mark Jackson, Lamar 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Jackson didn't play plus five of their defensive starters and 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: it was a forty four to ten blowout. Now Lamar 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: is supposed to be I don't know if he'll be 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. He's been hurt most of the year healthy, 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: they have four of those guys back. So if I'm 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: a Texans fan, I want the Steelers to win and 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: go against forty two year old Aaron Rodgers and a 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: team that has been struggling lately to score points. But 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: I think if Jacksonville's leading, like say, thirty to thirty 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: to nothing at the half or whatever, then Dimiko will 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: probably play some backups. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: play them anyway, for the guys who were banged up, 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: say like Kamari Lassiter and players like that, and he's 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: got Riley Leonard, and I'm sure. You know Riley Leonard 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: is gonna try to get build the ball in one 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: second to avoid the pass rush. And if the Texans 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: have to play some backups, you know they're backup in 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: the defensive line have done a good job. Backup linebackers 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: have done a good job. Back up receivers. They've got 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: a lot of guys that have gotten playing time. And 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 3: then if we talked the other day, the unsung hero's 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: backup quarterback Davis Mills, who went three and zero while CJ. 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: Stride was out with a concussion. So I think Texan's 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: gonna win this game either way. The team. I would 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: like to see him play in the playoffs. I'd like 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: to see him play Jacksonville again. It's somehow, some way 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: after beating him here with that great comeback, and could 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: have beat him early in the season. They had three 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: turnovers in the Jaguars red zone in the fourth quarter. 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: But it'd be kind of like to establish who's the 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: best in the AFC South. 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: General, I want to talk to you about the team 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: the Texans will face on Sunday, and it's the Indianapolis Colts, 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: and it's a season that started with such promise. Now 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: we talked about it a lot. Look, they're winning games 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: and beating anybody. Really, they did beat Denver like okay, 65 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: but they had to have a second crack in the 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: field at the end. There were starting we were starting 67 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: season cracks in the arm a little bit, and then 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: the biggest crack was in the fibula of Daniel Jones. 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Then he tore his achilles, and then it really all 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: went to you know what Their plan then was to 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: go get Philip Rivers at quarterback to bring him out 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: of retire. It's the best plan they could come up with. 73 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: What do you think happens this offseason? We don't. It's 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: not Jim Mersey anymore. It's carl Ersaid Gordon who's calling 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: the shots. What do you think happens with Chris Ballad? 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: What do you think happens with Shane Steike in this 77 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: off season for the Innneapolis Colts after starting seven to one, 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: eight and two and not even making the playoffs. 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: I read a deep dive on the Gults and Carli 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: Ersa Johnson, who has been heavily involved in every facet 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: of the organization since she got out of college. She's 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: been wearing headphones for years at games It just started 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: getting attention this year and she was in media, she 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: was in special advance, she's in personnel. I like that 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: and so, but we don't know how she's going to operate. 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Will it be like her dad? Will it be different 87 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: from her dad? The story says she really likes Chris Ballard, 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: respects him. But in Chris is nine years, they've won 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: one playoff game and you guys witnessed it as I did, 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: And so people are assuming you'll be back, assuming shame 91 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: Stikeen will be back. The problem is what are you 92 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: going to pay Daniel Jones because he's coming off he 93 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: had a fractured fibula then the torn achilles. Good chance 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: he won't be ready for the start of the season. 95 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: But do they sign him a one year make it deal? 96 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: Nobody else is going to give him a big contract. 97 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: You know. 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: What do they do with Anthony Richards? And I think 99 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: it's interesting, you know he is he was one hundred 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: percent participation in practice this week is window open, the 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: three week window they can put him on back to 102 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: active roster and play him against the Texans. Instead, they're 103 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: going with rookie Riley Leonard, who I think has made 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: four appearances this season. So they've got everything you need 105 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: on offense. They've got receivers, good offensive line, great running back, 106 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: and defensively, I don't think they're as good as they 107 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: want to be. Most of then what they would do 108 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: would be on defense. But you know, there may be 109 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback they like, but is she fires Ballard 110 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: that would be a huge upset because he's been there 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: so long, and then they'd have to go fill that position. 112 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: They have a guy at Dodge who's his assistant, who's 113 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: gotten interviews with other teams and is very highly respected, 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: so would they elevate him? So a lot of questions 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: about them, And the truth is they were starting to 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: struggle before Daniel Jones had any injury because teams that 117 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: started focusing on Taylor stopped contain Taylor and then let 118 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: Shones beat you and he couldn't do it. And the 119 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: Texans were a great example of that. 120 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: John, let's backtrack here. 121 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the playoff possibilities and 122 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned it, you'd rather see Jacksonville than Baltimore on 123 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: the road, But what if it's Pittsburgh or New England 124 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: and anybody else in that equation? I missed Jacksonville. We 125 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: talked because it's just Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, New England, because you 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't play Denver. Let's assume they're the one seed. So 127 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: among those three, would it still be Jacksonville. If Pittsburgh 128 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: is able to beat Baltimore on Sunday Night football, no. 129 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: I'd rather stand played Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has had a trouble scoring. 130 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: Their wide receivers caught eight passes Sunday and they lost 131 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: their tidy end Washington, and so they got big time 132 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: injuries on skill positions or offensive lines, nothing special, and 133 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: so I think the Steelers would be the most beatable team. 134 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter where they're playing them. They prove 135 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: they can play in cole weather like Kansas City, they 136 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: can play on long road trips. Texans have looked really 137 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: good during this winning streak defensively in special teams no 138 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: matter where they've been, and the offense is at its games. 139 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: The key is can they store twenty All they got 140 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: to do is score twenty thinking points and they win. 141 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: They're ten to zero with twenty points and they give 142 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: up sixteen, so they win by four. Twenty points is 143 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: not too much to ask and so I think they 144 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: can score twenty on the Steelers. And even though they 145 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: won in New England last year, and it'd be a 146 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 3: great story with Mike Brabel and Drake May who played 147 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: well against him last year through touchdown passes and interceptions, 148 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: I still think i'd rather see a player in Rogers 149 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: and the Steelers. 150 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: Okay, General, I'm gonna give you some options. Mark, you 151 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: chime in as well. I'm gonna give you options for 152 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: Coach of the Year in the NFL. Mike Vrabel turned 153 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: that thing around in New England, Ben Johnson turned it 154 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: around in Chicago. Mike McDonald I think needs a lot 155 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: of credit for what he's done in Seattle. Kyle Shanahan 156 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers, They've had all kinds of 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: guys injured, yet they're playing to be the one seed 158 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: over in the NFC to meek O Ryans Houston Texans 159 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: after our own three start eleven and two sins or 160 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: oh and Sean Payton with the Denver Broncos who got 161 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: them to the playoffs last year but now could be the 162 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: one seed in AFC. Who would be John mcclean's NFL 163 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Coach of the Year for twenty twenty five. 164 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think Jamiko deserves a lot of credit for 165 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: what he's done. It is staff based on where they 166 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: were after that oh and three start. I know, I 167 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 3: thought they weren't even gonna make the playoffs, much less 168 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: win to win to win twelve games, and I picked 169 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: them eleven and six, and I'm like geez to idio 170 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: and I there's no way they're winning ten much less eleven. 171 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: But and Mike McDonald's done a great job. But he 172 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 3: was ten and seven last year, and Shanahan is not 173 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: just Bosa and Warner being out for the year. They 174 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: made decisions in the offseason because of their salary camp, 175 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: they had to cut several of their to really good players, 176 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: and they haven't skipped a beat. And then Perdy missed 177 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: six games. Remember when they came in here and the 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: Texans beat him up, pro real good people were talking 179 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: about man they played Mac Jones, Mac Jones is playing 180 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: better than Rock Party. And then when perty came back, 181 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: it showed calmly what he's talking about. And I'm always 182 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: partial to Kyle Shanahan and all those former Texans who 183 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: were on his staff, but of all the really good 184 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: coaching jobs, he's done. This one is great. I was 185 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: communicating with the Kubiaks and think of the position they're 186 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 3: in Monday Night. One Son's the offensive course coordinator the 187 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. One is the coordinator in the Seahawks. 188 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 189 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: So, wow, can't they can't? I told Ronda, well, you 190 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 3: can't win or you can't lose, maybe there'll be a tie. 191 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: And uh so I think that that is such an 192 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: interesting situation. People think both of them are going to 193 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: be a head coach Clint first and uh uh, but 194 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm going with Kyle Shanahan. 195 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, Kyle Shan's my pick. That's my pick coach 196 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: of the year. Yeah, exactly Earlier, you guys are both wrong, 197 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: very wrong about this. Okay, first of all, it's either 198 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: Liam Kohane or Ben Johnson. Liam Cohne, I didn't mention 199 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: as much of a. 200 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Great job as Demiko's done here. You still have your 201 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for all but three and a half of 202 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: those games, and you have an outstanding defense, which he 203 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: deserves credit for. I mean, it's not like any of 204 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: these guys have done a bad job, right, They've all 205 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: done a tremendous job and Shanahan has two. However, I 206 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: am going to go with Ben Johnson because he's got 207 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: the second year quarterback who is very if he after 208 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: last year they won fewer games than they did with 209 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: justin Fields and you're wondering where's this all going, And 210 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: he's got them going in a great direction, winning a 211 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: division that no one gave him a shot to win. 212 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say no one. 213 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody did, but that's how I feel about that situation. 214 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: That division is not anywhere near as good as the 215 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: NFC West, and his when he got there, that talent 216 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: on offense was loaded Ryan Bowles, a GM had given 217 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: him a really good line. Then he added Joe Looney, 218 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: which meant you were guaranteed to win the division because 219 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: he's never played. When he didn't, they added to the 220 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: skill positions to running backs. Basically, it's a copy of 221 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: what the Lions are doing. And he has done a 222 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: fabulous job. And his quarterback was drafted first overall. And 223 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: where was Shanahan's quarterback drafted? 224 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, mister irrelevant, I got you last pick of the draft, baby, 225 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: I got you. However, the worst team in the NFC 226 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: North is eight and eight and it's a tie between 227 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Lions. This is a good division, 228 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: none of us, said Mike Vrabel, which is well, he 229 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit to he deserves a lot 230 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: of credit, and you're right, he's in that mix, and 231 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: he might get it because he's so popular. But I 232 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: really think Ben Johnson's done the great job. One other 233 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: note about the NFC West. Yes, it's an outstanding division. 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are so terrible. Everybody gets two free wins 235 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: against them in that division, so it really helps. That's 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: a week week team like the Titans in the AFC South, 237 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: where you go fatten your record against them. John Any 238 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: shot that the Titans can pull off the upset this weekend, 239 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, give me some hope here. Can they do 240 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: it on the road against Jacksonville? Could Jacksonville cough up 241 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: this big ball? 242 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: Four and a half examples of what we've seen teams that 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: had absolutely nothing to play for did it pulled off upsets. 244 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: But their talent level is so bad. It's not like 245 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: they've had a lot of injuries to good players. But 246 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: remember three years ago Jacksonville beached Tennessee, which was out 247 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: of the playoffs. They win the AFC South. The Texans 248 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 3: were a wildcard, So they play the Titans and they 249 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: get beat. One of the best coaching jobs Rabel ever done. 250 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: And so the Texans won the division and the Jaguars 251 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: were a wildcard. 252 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: General with Tennessee, I'm not gonna tell I'm not gonna 253 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: have you tell me who you think might be. If 254 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: you have a name, that's great, but I don't want 255 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: to put you on the spot, like, Hey, what name? 256 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: Do you think it's a defensive minded coach? Do you 257 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: think it's an offensive minded coach? Do you think it's 258 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: a big splash name coach that takes over in Tennessee 259 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: for the Titans going forward? Who do you think as 260 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: a head coach? 261 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I want to add another option, Is it a coach 262 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna get fired, like maybe, for example, a Kevin Stefanski. 263 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna but if he did recently. 264 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Fired, concently fired coach who has some experience and has 265 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: had some success. 266 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: I think they won an offensive coach for cam Ward. 267 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: They're gonna try to load up their offense the way 268 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: the Bears did for Caleb Williams Uh the the vice 269 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: the executive vice president of football ops Chad Brinker, who 270 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: has final say over the GM. Mike Bergonzie spent a 271 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: long time in Green Bay, and there's a lot of 272 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 3: talk about Mike McCarthy and then uh, Mike mcgonzie. The 273 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: GM came from Kansas City, spent a long time with 274 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy's name has been thrown around there. 275 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: A lot of the media wants Arthur Smith, but he 276 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: hadn't done anything to distinguish himself with the Steelers, and 277 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: I think a guy like Clinton Kubiak will get an 278 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: interview with them. The best candidates, people say, are defensive coaches. 279 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, if Kevin Stefanski has fired 280 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: Monday night, he'll have a job Tuesday morning if he 281 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: wants it, I mean Sunday night. Then if he's fired 282 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: in the morning, he'll have a job by lunch if 283 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: he wants it. He could do like Vrabel did with him, 284 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: go spend a season with the Patriots and then take 285 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: a job. But Stefanski's a two time Coach of the 286 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Year and the media doesn't want to get fired up there. 287 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: They say it's not his fault that they did. That 288 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: deal for Watson would set the franchise back and is 289 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: out tweeted the last two weeks and I'm gonna do 290 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: it again. Andrew Berry, the GM of the Browns, deserves 291 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: some Executive the Year mentions because of the way he's 292 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: helped the Texans rebuild. 293 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: Because he drafted chadur and they're winning with him now. 294 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: In general, I'm gonna throw a team at you, and 295 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: you tell me if they're definitely looking for a quarterback 296 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: in the off season or maybe looking for a quarterback 297 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: of the off season, You're ready to go. Let's roll 298 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: the Browns. Are they definitely looking for a quarterback of 299 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: the off season? 300 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: They're definitely looking for a quarterback in the off season. 301 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: They got two number one pigs that they You know, 302 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: people are talking about some bad draft for quarterbacks. When 303 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: we start going to senior ball and the pro and 304 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: the Pro Days and the combine and the private workouts, 305 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: there's going to be two or three more quarterbacks who 306 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: are going to be first round picks. And they're talking 307 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: about Dante Moore Oregon and Ty Simpson of Alabama. They've 308 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 3: both been one year starters. They need to go back 309 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: to school and get some more experience. But if may 310 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if Dante More came out, they say he'd 311 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: be second to Fernando Mendoza. And I just I think 312 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: that the Titans. I think the Titans are going to 313 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 3: go with an offensive coach and they're going to load 314 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: up their offense and try to duplicate what has happened 315 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: with the Bears. And don't know if they will, of course, 316 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: because they don't have a lot of talent right now. 317 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: Because if you look at their picks, there was four 318 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: in a row, number one picks that former GM John 319 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: Robinson did not hit on. And they've let their Henry 320 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: go at thirty because they thought he was done at thirty. 321 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: Look how bad that is. They made a bunch of 322 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: bad decisions up there when it comes to personnel. 323 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Does Rogers retire after this? Are the Steelers definitely in 324 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback market? Rogers was asked about Will Howard said 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: glowing things. I don't know how they really feel about 326 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: Will Howard? Who knows? But what are your thoughts on 327 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the offseason? And look, a lot of 328 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: stuff is still in play here. They could win the 329 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: AFC North, they could win playoff games, they could go 330 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: all the way, they could flame out spectacularly Sunday night. 331 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think. 332 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: I think first of all asks to be that Mike 333 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: Tomlin has to be back, and he's gonna want Aaron 334 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: Rodgers back because he's better than what they have. But 335 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: they need somebody develop behind him, you know, maybe one 336 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: more year and if Tomlin's another one, and then Arbaugh, 337 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: John Arbaugh, those guys were surprised firings. They get jobs 338 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: so quick, and I think Rogers is back in another year. 339 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I've got hot take here, Johnny, you rd it 340 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: and general you tell me if this is true? 341 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: Now it's not mine. 342 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted this last night after arch Manning what he 343 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: did in the bowl game, which was good, right, arch 344 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: finished pretty strong here, had a nice finish, definitely a 345 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: lot better than he was playing earlier in the season. 346 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: They said, it's good that he's going back to Texas. 347 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: It's good because he's got to continue to play and 348 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: develop and who knows where it all goes. But if 349 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: he was coming out, he might still be the number 350 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: one overall pick because he's arch Manning. 351 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: That's correct. How hot is that? That? That's one that's 352 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: not too hot? In general? You think that's true. You 353 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: think Arch would be the number one pick if he 354 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: came out. 355 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: I think he would be Wow, because it's I and 356 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: Mendoza and he's going to be even better. He played 357 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: a great game. I mean he looked good. He hadn't 358 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: run like that since he's in Newman High School in Louisiana. 359 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: And he'll be the favorite for the Heisman, which he 360 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: was this year, and the Long Orange will be favored 361 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: probably at least get to the CFF, maybe the National Championship. 362 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: But he did a great job. And when he comes out, 363 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 3: you think of next year the quarterbacks. What if Dante 364 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: More and ty Simpson go back to school, you would 365 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: have them, You would have Julians saying as a junior, 366 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: it just might be one of the best quarterback draft 367 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: classes ever led by Arts. 368 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely general is the loser of Raven Steelers at risk 369 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: of losing a job. 370 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be something those guys have been to get 371 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: longest tenure in the NFL. Neither owner has a proclivity 372 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: for changing coaches, so I'm gonna say both are going 373 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: to be back. It seems stupid to me. If Lamar 374 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: Jackson had been healthy all year, what would their record be. 375 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: It seems stupid that people say Zach Taylor could be fired. 376 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Look at what they've done since Joe Burrow came back. 377 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: They have a winning record to me, unless you get 378 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: a Davis and kudos again and Nick Casario for extending 379 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: him through next season. I hope he's extend him again. 380 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: I would say Harball's got the best chance of staying, 381 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: but could be Mike Domaldin's just tired. He's tired of 382 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: going through all that up there and not having a 383 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: quarterback since Big. 384 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: Ben is Todd Bowles gone in Tampa. If they don't 385 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: win the division, maybe even if they do, I don't know. 386 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: I must say yes, you know, it's a really weird 387 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: deal that Atlanta's victory. If Atlanta wins Sunday, no matter 388 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: what happens, I think Carolina wins the division yep, because 389 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: they all have losing records, but Carolina owns the tiebreaker. 390 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 391 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: Adding never, that's strange. 392 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: That's weird. 393 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: A year from now, are we looking at the Chiefs 394 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: back in the playoffs. 395 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to say yes. People say, oh, they need lineman. 396 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: They lost five tackles. I think their offensive line done. 397 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: They still need a running back, might need a tight end. 398 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: We don't know those young wide receivers. We'll have another year. 399 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: I experience things, stay out of trouble. Defense has still 400 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 3: got Steve Spagnola, one of the greatest ever. So I'm saying, yes. 401 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: Uh, let me know when Patrick Mahomes rehab is complete, 402 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: because if his rehab is not complete until mid season, 403 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: mid season, I'm gonna say no. They general kind of 404 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: laying out what they need. They might need a quarterback. 405 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: It's an acl they come back in a few yes, fine, 406 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: rab some third on it. 407 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: Like do like Adrian Peterson and come back in six months, 408 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: eight months, whatever, that's the most. 409 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: They better find some people to protect him. I know that. Yeah, 410 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: spend your money wisely, Brettviach. 411 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: General, It's it's January, as the calendar tells us, So 412 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: that means the premiere of your documentary, Oh this month? 413 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: Am I right about that? 414 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna be on January thirtieth. It's going to be 415 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: available to the public on February first, which is the 416 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: start of Black History Month. And I've been tweeting a 417 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: lot of things about it, and we'll continue to do it. 418 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: We're going to have a huge premiere with a lot 419 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: of media, a lot of people who are in the documentary, 420 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: A lot of former players want to come, so we're 421 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: really excited about it. Hey, Mark Burns our director, as 422 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: our producers, God Nethery and Rob Lanz. Those guys have 423 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: done an incredible job over fifty hours of tape. They 424 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: had to go through Mark and Joe Holly, a former 425 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: Chronicle columnist who is the writer. And Fred McClure, longtime 426 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: administrator at A and M. He's the voice of God. 427 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: Sounds like James Earl Jones, he's the narrator. So we're 428 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: almost ready to go, and I am pumped, and thank 429 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: you guys for asking. 430 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: All right, General, thanks so much for being on. We 431 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 432 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: Happy to year. We look forward to catch it on 433 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Monday morning. Sounds good, that's the General. John mcclan coming 434 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: up a bunch of questions for Johnny Harris. Who's better 435 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: is and more likely is to happen those kinds of things? 436 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Is that the proper plural of that. Yes, I'm gonna 437 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: go with it right now and in the second hour 438 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: of the program tonight, because we have two because there's 439 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: no Thursday night football, we have the New Audibles Podcast 440 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Highlights with Jalen Petree, Derek Stingley Junior, and E. J. 441 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: Speed. 442 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, It's Texans Radio. We continue with the show, 443 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermin and John Harris here in the Hyunday Texans 444 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Radio studio, and it's time to play the game that. 445 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what to call this one because we 446 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: have more likely to happen. Who's better questions for Johnny? 447 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a hybrid. It's gonna be the 448 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: leftovers from New Year's Eve. We're gonna mix them in 449 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: a big pot and ask you some questions. Johnny, and 450 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: I know you're ready for this one. Yes, question, Mooya base? Okay, 451 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: who who's better? Better postseason run coming up? The Bears 452 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: or the Jags. You have to look at this objectively. 453 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: We don't want to see the Jags do well because 454 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: they're in the AFC and we might face them. 455 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 2: But just zooming out, what would you say here? Bears? 456 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Are Jags better postseason run? The AFC seems more wide open. 457 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: I guess I say that hesitantly. What are your thoughts? 458 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Jags. I know not a 459 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: ton of returning Jags from twenty twenty two, but Trevor 460 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: Travis etn Foyer, Lukun the two pass rushers. They've got 461 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: enough key guys that went through that run in twenty 462 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: twenty two. The Bears pretty much have a bunch of 463 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: newbies to the playoffs, and I'm convinced that you need 464 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of experience that's been there, that's seen it, 465 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: that's done it, to get you along in the playoff. 466 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the Jacks. I hate to 467 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: say it, I wouldn't mind going down there in the 468 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: first round if we got to go on the road 469 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: to play them, just playing a vision upon it. We've 470 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: done it before, and I think it worked for the Colts. 471 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: They had seen us before, they weren't intimidated by us, 472 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: and they went out and played a great ball game 473 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: and beat us here in twenty eighteen. I think it's 474 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: the same with the Jags and Texans. They both know 475 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: each other very very well. I think it would have 476 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: been interesting had CJ played in that game. You know, 477 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: maybe there's some things we do differently because we have 478 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: CJ versus even Davis. So in that case, I would 479 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: watch jacksonvill do it. But if we don't have to 480 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: play Jacksonville right away, I wouldn't mind seeing him down 481 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: the road NAFCY Championship game. 482 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: If the season ended today, the Bears would play the 483 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Packers at Soldier Field wild Card weekend. I don't know 484 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: if I like that one so much. I don't like 485 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: that for the Bears. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The 486 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: Packers are more experienced. I know they have new guys 487 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: as well, but I'm just talking about Jordan Love is 488 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: played in the playoffs and he's good to go. But 489 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: they're not gonna play on this weekend obviously. 490 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: So you know who's playing. Former U of H quarterback 491 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: star Clayton Tune playing for the Packers this weekend. Who's house? 492 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: Kook's house. 493 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: That's right, Clayton Tune's gonna go for the Packers. That's 494 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: very cool stuff. But the Bears at home against the Packers, 495 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. But I don't know if I would 496 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: again objectively take the Texans out of it. I don't 497 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: know if I trust the Jaguars as well. They make 498 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: me nervous. 499 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: That's why you put two of them together, because they 500 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: are two teams, one inexperienced, one I don't know if 501 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: you completely and totally trust they are hot. Yeah, they 502 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: are hot. There's no doubt about that. We're the only 503 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: team hotter than the Jaguars right now. 504 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: But objectively, I think this is why the Texans are 505 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: getting a lot of love here, because when you look 506 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: at the AFC, who do you trust? You don't trust 507 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: Denver and they're gonna get the bye if they're the 508 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: top seed. They should be able to get the top seed, 509 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: you would think, because all they have to do is 510 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: beat the Chargers and they're sitting guys right, So you're 511 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: looking at Trey Lance and company in that game. Now, 512 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots, you trust them, you know, I trust Mike vrabel, 513 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: I guess, but they have a lot of young players 514 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: in that situation for the first time. 515 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: Trake May's first playoff game. 516 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Playing at home is good. But so we mentioned the Jags, 517 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: now Steelers, Ravens. You're talking about salty veterans here, laying 518 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: at home the winner of that one on wild Card weekend. 519 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: And that's why this fifth seed kind of makes me 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: a little shaky as well. But I think the Texans 521 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: get a lot of love because people look at the 522 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: defense and it looks otherworldly compared to these other defenses, 523 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: and you're thinking, well, they can just stop anybody, or 524 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: at least slow them down enough where if you score 525 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: the general said, you score twenty, you win, And I 526 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: know it's not that easy, but it feels like it sometimes. 527 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: Well you said it when you get to the playoffs. 528 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: So you get to talking about the playoffs, you want 529 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: to know what in who you could trust? Yep, what 530 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 2: in who can you trust me? In the circle of trust? 531 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: The Texans defense? Yeah, that you know, that group shows up, 532 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: they're in there that you know. 533 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like it's a given that they're gonna 534 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: it's not a shutout, but they're gonna slow you down. 535 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna hold you below seventeen in all likelihood, even 536 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: in your building, and you'll get a good shot to win. 537 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: All right, Next one, let's zoom forward to twenty twenty six. 538 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, it is twenty twenty six, but the 539 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: next season that is, And who's the better team next year? 540 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: The Saints who are piping hot right now Johnny with 541 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck or the Washington Commanders who had a very 542 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: down year and Jadeen Daniels got hurt and where's it 543 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: all going from here? And who knows what happens in 544 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: the offseason with the staff, right? 545 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I would imagine both staffs stay 546 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: as is. Tyler Shuck has done a really nice job 547 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: for the Saints, and you could see momentum starting to build. 548 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: The Saints are a little bit younger than Washington. Now 549 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: the ceiling isn't as high for Shuck as it is 550 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: for Jaydon Daniels. But does Jadon Daniels get back to 551 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 2: that rookie year level that he was playing? And you know, 552 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Laramie's another year older. Deebo is now in his thirties. 553 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: They've got some veterans, you know, Bobby Wagner linebacker. You know, 554 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: he has got some rings around the tree. I just 555 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: think Washington gets older very quickly. Their star players are 556 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: now in their you know, lower to mid thirties. That 557 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: doesn't that scares me a little bit if I'm Washington. 558 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: Nor Land's players other than the Mario Davis for the 559 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: most part, Cameron, Cameron Jordan, they're relatively younger players. So 560 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, Chase Young has been great, Justin Reid was 561 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: great for them, and then obviously Shuck, Chris Olave. You know, 562 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: the offensive line they've kind of figured out. Kelvin Banks. 563 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: I feel like I want to say the Saints to 564 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: me have more potential just because they're a little bit younger, 565 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: and I think they can write this. And you know what, 566 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: I think Kellen Moore is a hell of a coach. 567 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna think. Kellen Moore's a hell 568 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: of a coach. They might have found that one. And 569 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: you know what, Look, I don't know what is going 570 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: to happen with coach Schottenheimer and Dallas in the long 571 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: term here, but Dallas might look back on this Kellen 572 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Moore leaving the Bill Building thing and say, maybe that 573 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the best guy to have leave the building and 574 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: go to Philadelphia. 575 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: And now he's in New Orleans doing what he's doing. 576 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Maybe this was a miss for us. 577 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: Now, who knows, this is a late season surge, But 578 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: if you're a Saints fan, it's really good to see 579 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback playing well under a rookie coach and 580 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: you're upsetting some people down the stretch and it really 581 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: is fascinating stuff from a Saints fan perspective. All Right, 582 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: that was a next year question. I'll give you another one. 583 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Who's better next year? The Cleveland Browns or the Tennessee 584 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: Titans who reside in the AFC South, of course, and 585 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: we'll have a new head coach and cam Ward in 586 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: his second year, and the Browns will have I don't 587 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: know who at quarterback. Maybe Schautuur, does Watson come back? 588 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: Probably not. Maybe Stefanski's back, maybe he's not. What are 589 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: they gonna do? Who's better next year? Titans or Browns? 590 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because we know the Titans needed a 591 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: new head coach. We know that. Are the Browns gonna 592 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: do something dumb and get rid of Kevin Stefanski and 593 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: then they need a new head coach? I think that's 594 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: the difference. If they end up with Stefanski, that defense 595 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: is outstanding, and I think they'll eventually get a quarterback 596 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: that will fit for that offense for Stefanski and they're 597 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: going to be a problem. This draft class for the 598 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: Browns was tremendous. If they stay with Stefanski, draft another 599 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: draft class and they got extra picks, They've got the 600 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: picks from the Travis Hunter deal, They're going to be young, hungry, 601 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: and really athletic and Miles Garrett still has He's still 602 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: got some left in the tank. So you're talking about 603 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: defense that's still going to be really good. Now the 604 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: offense gets a few more pieces. I think the Browns 605 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: get there, get there faster than the Titans. And I 606 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: hope that's the case too. I hope that's the case. 607 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 2: Even though we got face the Browns this year, I 608 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: hope that's the case. 609 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: We do have to face the Browns in Cleveland, and 610 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: for those who want to know, the Texans will go 611 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: to Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and TBD in the NFC North. 612 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, babe, how does it set up right now? Green Bay? 613 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: Green Bay? As it stands, if we finished second, green 614 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: Bay will finish second. We'll go to Green Bay. 615 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: And if you finish first, you're going to Chicago. So 616 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: either way you're outside so Chicago or Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philly, Washington, Burgh. 617 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Get this. You'll face Buffalo at home though if you 618 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: finish second, because you'll match up. We'll match up second, 619 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: you'll match up second place. But they're coming here though, 620 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: right Buffalo comes. I don't know how. I can't remember 621 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: how that one goes. I think they have to come here. 622 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: What a gift to play the ball. I'm telling you 623 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: right now, those fans when you mentioned Buffalo Bill's coming 624 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: to NRG Stadium, there is instant Milwaukee I do not 625 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: want to go there. I do like that, Yeah, I 626 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: do like that about them. All right, let's get to 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: the next one. 628 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: All right, better quarterback from twenty sixth on. Okay, so 629 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: not this postseason, but the following season on in their career. 630 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Who's better Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels, And I'll throw 631 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: in Drake May as well. 632 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 2: Who's gonna be the best quarterback? You might say? May? Oh? 633 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: So Ansel the first one first, assuming that May shouldn't 634 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: figure in there somehow in the initial round. But I'm 635 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna go Williams versus Daniels. And again, Daniels was so 636 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: good last year, but what happened this year? It wasn't 637 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: going great before he went out, and then Williams he 638 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: took a quantum leap forward as his team won the division. 639 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: They're both excited to watch. I don't know, you tell 640 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: me of. 641 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Those three, I'd take Drake May one of the reasons 642 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: I just seen him. I have seen him play quarterback 643 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: at a higher level. What I've seen from the other two, well, 644 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: this year it's really hard. But Jane Daniels you never saw. 645 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: He took a lot of hits, he threw some just 646 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: bad balls and just wasn't healthy all year, and he 647 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: played recklessly when he ran the ball. Drake May play smart. 648 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: He makes every throat imaginable, and I don't think that 649 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: Caleb has matched that. Now. What Caleb does is Caleb can. 650 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: Caleb has plays in a game that are a ten 651 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: and You're like, oh my god, nobody can do that. 652 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: But Caleb mainly plays at like a seven or seven 653 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: and a half. Okay, Drake is playing at an eight 654 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: and a half nine all the time. And Drake is 655 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 2: still doing some high level things, don't get me wrong, 656 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: but he is consistently at an eight and a half nine. 657 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: And I trust Josh McDaniels as an offense coordinator, play 658 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 2: caller to help his quarterback as he has this year, 659 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: and that I think is a big asset for Drake 660 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: May going forward. 661 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: I trust Ben Johnson, I think in Chicago, based on 662 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: what I've seen so far and every time I see 663 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: him interviewed or in a press situation, I think Oh, 664 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: this guy seems impressive to me. Yep, this guy seems 665 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: like he is a head coach, you know, the hot 666 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: coordinator for so long? Was he going to be good 667 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: head coach? Turned down opportunities? Is he really going to 668 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: be a good Yes, it appears that he's a good 669 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: head coach. And they don't like this in Detroit one 670 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: little bit that he's doing this in Chicago. Nobody likes 671 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: it in the NFC North. All right, I've got more 672 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: for you. Well that's the NFL sounder baby, But let's 673 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: go to the campus scene. College football, college sports an 674 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: utter disaster. And it's not just me saying that. John 675 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: Caliperi went on his epic rant this week. Other coaches 676 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: chiming in and I'm gonna play this game called Is 677 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: this a good idea? 678 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: You tell me? Is this a good idea? Johnny? 679 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Where you're allowed one free transfer, no more unlimited portal visits. 680 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: You get one free transfer. After that the old rules apply. 681 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: You gott to sit for a year if you transfer. 682 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, good idea. Yes, it's a great idea, absolutely, 683 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: because it's unlimited transfer thing. What it's allowing kids to do. 684 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 2: And these are the ones I have the biggest issue 685 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: with is kids that have played one season, maybe got 686 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: red shirted, maybe weren't ready coming out of high school, 687 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, they're kind of like, well 688 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 2: that's not as cool, coaches yelling at me. I don't 689 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: know if I like this. I want to go be 690 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: loved again. So why not go into portal and let 691 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: people recruit me again? Yeah, because you get a lot 692 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 2: of love in the portal, that's right. Well, if you 693 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: make that decision, then that's it. Where you go next, 694 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: that's it. So I think you get the one time 695 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: get out a jail free card if you call it that. 696 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: After that rules apply, you're going somewhere else, sit out 697 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: a year. Seeing TJ. Finley quarterback spend go to seven 698 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 2: schools in seven years, that's crazy. What is that? That's 699 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: mercenary stuff. I forget that. We don't need that. I 700 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: think Nil should stay. We got to get a little 701 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: bit better handle on it. Yeah, but I feel if 702 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: you said you got one free transfer, after that, old 703 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 2: rules apply, and I think it would be very easy 704 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: to to apply. I think you would minimize a lot 705 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: of the movement. And I think what Nil is doing, 706 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: and this is the This is where I think it 707 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: would help. When we used to watch college basketball back 708 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: in the day, in particular, whenever they would put out 709 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: the College All America teams or the Couge Basketball America teams, 710 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: is like I knew all five guys. I knew all 711 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 2: five guys. I look at it now and I don't 712 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: know who anybody is because they're not you're not sticking around. 713 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: But if you had the if you had the one 714 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: time free transfer rule, then old rules apply plus anil, 715 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: especially in college football, you would get you would get 716 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: guys to stick around for a while. Now you might 717 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: have some familiarity with the players who's playing for the 718 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: particular team. Then it wouldn't be all about just that 719 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: particular year. You would have some more uh not not loyalty. 720 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: It's loyalty to the right word. Maybe loyalty to that university. Hey, 721 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 2: this guy stated this university for four years, or he 722 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: went one year to one place, didn't fit, he went 723 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: four years to this other place. Okay, it wasn't one 724 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: year here, two years there, one year, one year. You're 725 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: not going to four different schools in five years. It's 726 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. And I think what happens from our perspective, 727 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 2: the NFL is with the NIL in particular, You're getting 728 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: guys to stick around for longer, so their games are 729 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: developing a little bit more. We talked about Dante Moore, 730 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: We talked about arch Manning. Going back into the year 731 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: in college is only going to make them better pros 732 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: and I think it helps. 733 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: It also ties you in with the school, your legacy. 734 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: Quin you weres talked about this. It's nice that he's 735 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: absolutely done with his college career as. 736 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: A long horn. 737 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: He has Longhorn legacy, as opposed to I'm transferring somewhere 738 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: else for big money and now I'm no longer really 739 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: a long horn. Right, It's I had a time Longhorn, 740 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: but it's not the same thing. And Caliperry and Charles 741 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: Barkley brought it up in different ways. Charles brought up 742 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: a really good point. This is a one percent richest thing, right, 743 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: the top athletes getting he said, all the money, but 744 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: really getting ninety percent of the money. And then the 745 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: rest of the athletes. Are you getting the education? Are 746 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: you able to stay nurse your scholarship, have that be 747 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: nurtured and use that to get a career going for 748 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: yourself and Cali Prari talked about the tie to the school. Hey, 749 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm a former this, I'm a former of that and 750 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm tied to that school and I'm in one place 751 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: for multiple years where i can really grow as a 752 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: human being. 753 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm still a young person here. 754 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: And Barkley also said this, This affects women's sports greatly. 755 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt women's sports so much. And it's so true. 756 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: You want to have that campus experience, not just raw 757 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: row party. I'm just talking about growth academically, socially, athletically, 758 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: being a part of the fabric of the community. 759 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: I think it's really important stuff. Let me ask you 760 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: a question. Yeah, because I saw this come up last year. 761 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: Will Howard transferred to Ohio State, played one year at 762 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: High State one national championship, and I saw a lot 763 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: of people say, well, Will Howard's not a Buckeye because 764 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: he had played four years at Kansas State. But then 765 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: he finished for Ohio State in that one year championship. 766 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: Like kind of to your point, he's Will Howard. Can 767 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: you know has he thought of as one of the 768 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 2: great Ohio State quarterbacks of all time? Led his team 769 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 2: to a national Championship. I don't think so. I don't 770 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: see it that way. Dude's a Kansas date wildcall. 771 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: Just like Carson Beck whatever this Hurricane season ends up being. 772 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 2: Is he really a cane? No? 773 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: They were talking about him like Gino Torretta, Kenn Dorsey. 774 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a different situation. He's a cane 775 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: for hire. Does he even know where the Big Cheese is? 776 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,959 Speaker 2: Only Kanes would know that. It's a cane thing thing. 777 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 2: It's a restaurant, the Big Cheese. It's a Miami Hurricane thing. 778 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: It's really good. 779 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: If Tony Fitzpatrick is listening, he's really smiling right now. 780 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: An awful lot. 781 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: All right, That's all I got for this one, because 782 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: we could go on and on about the college sports situation. 783 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: It was a great Kinders Texas Bowl last weekend. It's 784 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: going to be a great finale for the regular season 785 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: with the Texans and the Colts Sunday at noon, the 786 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Space City game coming up. More about your Texans. We 787 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: got Houston Methodist Minutes. We have the No Audibles Podcast 788 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: Highlight Hour because no Thursday night football, So we have 789 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Petree, Derek Stingley Junior, and EJ. Speed coming up 790 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: in hour number two. It's all happening. Stick around, It's 791 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. We wrap up this hour the way we 792 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: wrap up most six to seven pm hours on a 793 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: Thursday night in Texans Radio Land with Houston Methodist Minutes. Now, 794 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: before we get into this, a reminder that we are 795 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: on in the seven to eight pm hour because there's 796 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: no Thursday Night football tonight. So a very special New 797 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: Year's Night extravaganza of the No Audibles podcast as Jonathan 798 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: Joseph is set to catch up with Derek Stingley Junior, 799 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie and EJ. 800 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: Speed. 801 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: So you don't want to miss that, and you don't 802 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: want to miss this Houston Methodist minutes. Do you have insomnia? 803 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: Does anybody you know have it? How about doctor Gungjin 804 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: Narwani of Houston Methodist, And I asked her, what's the 805 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: most common thing people come in to see her about? 806 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 2: Sleep wise people see me forever issues. 807 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: I would say the most common thing that people see 808 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: me in the clinic four is snoring or unrefreshing sleep. 809 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 4: You may have heard of this, but that is really 810 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 4: the most common thing that we're seeing. We're learning so 811 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 4: much about a condition called obstructive sleep apnea, and how 812 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 4: it's linked to different conditions like cardiovascular risk, cognitive and 813 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 4: neurological risk and so forth. And so that is probably 814 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 4: I see sixty percent of my patient population is getting 815 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 4: seen for sleep apnea. So this is where patients may snore, 816 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 4: sound like they're stopping breathing in the middle of the night, 817 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 4: have restless sleep, and maybe despite getting the adequate number 818 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 4: of hours, like they're in bed maybe for eight hours 819 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 4: at night, but somehow just don't feel refreshed the next day. 820 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 4: And this is a breathing disruption during sleep, and we 821 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 4: have good ways to test this, we have great ways 822 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 4: to treat it. And so that is really the most 823 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 4: common thing that I'm seeing in the office. 824 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: Doctor. 825 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: What about the amount of sleep that people need or 826 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: should have? You hear about eight hours all the time? 827 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: Is that the magic number? Or does it very person 828 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: to person? What about these genius people I hear about 829 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: who only need four or five hours of sleep? 830 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: Is that true? You tell us? 831 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, So there's a lot of data actually to support 832 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 4: the seven to eight hour being the sweet spot. So 833 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 4: I mean it didn't come from nowhere. There's actually there's 834 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 4: data to support that optimal sleep for optimal health outcomes 835 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: is somewhere between seven and eight hours, So getting too 836 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 4: it's like goldilocks, right, So getting too little sleep or 837 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 4: getting too much sleep actually show we've seen that people 838 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 4: have poorer health outcomes with those extreme in terms of 839 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 4: hours of sleep. Now, what your second part to the 840 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 4: question is absolutely true, some people do feel like they 841 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 4: can function on less sleep, or some people do feel 842 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 4: like I need eleven hours, or I don't feel I 843 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: don't feel right, So there is some individual variability in 844 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 4: how patients feel. But again, aiming for seven I would 845 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: say at a minimum is really where the data supports 846 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 4: good health outcomes overall. 847 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to tell me to give up coffee, 848 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: are you? What is your advice with that and diet 849 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: in general when it comes to getting a good night's sleep. 850 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: Right, So that's a great question because a lot of 851 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 4: patients will say, I stop caffeine after dinner, or I 852 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 4: sip on caffeine all day, but it doesn't affect me. 853 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 4: Caffeine can stay in your body for a long period 854 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 4: of time, up for six hours, and so I generally 855 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 4: tell my patients after lunch is when if you feel 856 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 4: that you need to be sipping on something, please switch 857 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 4: to a decap version of whatever you're drinking, because it 858 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 4: can interfere with your sleep, and you know again it 859 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 4: can last for long periods of time. So we can 860 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 4: eliminate that as a variable as something that may be 861 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 4: disruptive to your sleep. 862 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: There's part two of our discussion on sleep with doctor 863 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: Gungjin Narwani of Houston Methodists, the official healthcare provider of 864 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist leading medicine, like we said. 865 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: Next up, Jonathan Joseph interviews Jill Petrie, Derek Stingley Junior, 866 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: and Ejspeed. You don't want to miss that. And by 867 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: the way, a reminder tomorrow we'll have Demiko Ryans on 868 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna have a lot of fun. Is 869 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: I's Al Shier will be on the show, among many 870 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: other things happening. Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. Stay 871 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: tuned tomorrow at six. Next up, the No Audibles podcast. 872 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: We'll set that up for you as Texans Radio continues, 873 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: Go Texans