1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio. Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Lauren Vogel Bomb here. When economic times are uncertain, people 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: want to put their money in something solid. That helps 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: explain why of all one dollar bills in circulation are 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: now held outside of the United States. That's up from 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: only thirty percent back in The steep rise in the 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: number of one hundred dollar bills held overseas close to 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: two c notes for every person on the planet is 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: a signal that people around the world recognize the US 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: dollar as the de facto global currency. They have confidence 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: that if their local currency goes belly up, the dollar 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: will hold steady. And it's not only individuals who are 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: saving American currency for a rainy day, it's foreign governments 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: to the governments don't stockpile physical dollars in their central banks, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: but they do buy up loads of U S Treasury 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: bonds and T bills, which are valued in dollars. As 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: of January twenty, Japan and China each owned more than 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: one trillion dollars in US Treasury securities, followed by the 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: United Kingdom with three d and seventy two billion dollars 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and Brazil with two hundred and eighty three billion. According 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: to the International Monetary Fund, more than sixty of the 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: world's cash reserves are held in dollars. The Bureau is 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: in far second place. At when even an economic powerhouse 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: like China holds a trillion U S. Dollars in reserve, 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: that's a good sign that the dollar is still considered 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: the mightiest of the global currencies. But the dollar wasn't 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: always the world's de facto currency. So what changed? Before 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: World War Two? All global currencies were backed by gold, 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: and each government guaranteed that its money was good for 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: a certain amount of gold. Then came the Breton Woods 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Agreement of ninety four, which created the World Bank and 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the International Monetary Fund, and also established the U. S. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Dollar as the new gold Because the US held most 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: of the world's gold supply, the dollar continued to dominate 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: during the post World War two boom years. But we 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: spoke with Jonathan David Kirshner, a professor of political science 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: and international studies at Boston College who co edited a 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: book called The Future of the Dollar. He explained that 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the rise of the dollar order was built on four pillars. 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: The robustness of the U. S. Economy, the widespread belief 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: in the American model of finance, the wealth of US 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: financial institutions, and America's leading role in international affairs. Kirshner 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: said most of the world's monetary relations were orchestrated between 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: the US and its political allies and military dependencies, it 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: was natural to be conducted in dollars. The Breton Woods 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: fixed exchange rate scheme collapsed in the nineteen seventies when 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard during 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: a period of domestic inflation, and many industrialized economies chose 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: to float their currencies on the open market. It At 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: that time, some economists began to predict the downfall of 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: the dollar, not that it would lose value, but that 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: it would lose its dominance as the world's de facto currency. 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Over the decades, most of those pillars that made the 54 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: dollar king of the postwar economy have been toppled. Recessions, 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: stock market bubbles, and the global financial crisis have revealed 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: cracks in the American financial model, and the US has 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: lost some of its political dominance, with many governments and 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: corporations choosing to do business with China or Europe instead. 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Yet the numbers show that the dollar is still the 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: currency that nations and individuals turned to as a safe 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: harbor in economic storms. The Kirshner said, the ultimate reason 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: is a simple one, the lack of a plausible alternative. 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: If not the dollar, then what. There have been periodic 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: calls to shift more reserve holdings to the Euro, the 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: Chinese R and B, or even back to gold, but 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: the dollars still reigns supreme. When countries shop for a 67 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: reserve currency that stay bill secure and liquid, that is 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: easy to convert back to local money, the dollar is 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: still the default. In fact, some countries such as Panama 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: and El Salvador use the US dollar as their own 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: legal tender. The US government doesn't have to give approval 72 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: for another country to use the dollar as its official currency. 73 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: So what about a one world currency. I'm not going 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: to happen, Kirschner says. The first reason is political. There's 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: simply no political will to have one world government or 76 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: one world currency. The second reason we won't see an 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: Earth dollar anytime soon, or the whole world using the 78 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: US dollar for their official currency for that matter, has 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: to do with an economic theory called optimal currency area 80 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: that states that a single currency only operates effectively over 81 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: a relatively small geographic area of the size of a country, 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: for example, not a continent or the world. That's because 83 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: different regions might be experiencing very different economic conditions at 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: the same time. One country might be in recession while 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: another there is booming. Kirshner said, if you only have 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: one money in the whole world, then you only have 87 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: one monetary authority, which means you only have one monetary policy. 88 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: In reality, different regions or countries would need monetary policies 89 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: more tailored to their individual needs. That's one of the 90 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: reasons why the Euro hasn't supplanted the dollar as the 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: de facto global currency. The European Union itself is not 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: an optimal currency area. It's too spread out, which means 93 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: that EU authorities have to enact monetary policies that somehow 94 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: serve economies in very different financial conditions, like Germany and Greece. 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Today's episode was written by Dave Ruse and produced by 96 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Tyler Clang. For more on this and lots of other 97 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: viable topics, visit House to Works dot com. Brain Stuff 98 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts for 99 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, because of the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, 100 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows,