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Speaker 1: Everyone of my name is Luke Thomas. We're ten minutes late,

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Speaker 2: But he hasn't had those screw ups that other athletes

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Speaker 2: So he purposely targeted with his right hand all night, Luke,

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Speaker 2: You know, we always say about Floyd's he's one of

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He comes from a boxing family. He's punching doorknobs at

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Speaker 2: They were all good pros. Canelo is part of a

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Speaker 1: I know, and again part of that is distance management.

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Speaker 2: It seems Canelo is really interested Luke and collecting belts,

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Speaker 2: by that was I beat three of your fighters already, Eddie,

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Speaker 2: Canelo wants the Glove Can fight. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: I get your want for something like a better beef fight,

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Speaker 2: Spence trying to fight him at middleweight? He was in

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Speaker 2: playbook on how to be the biggest star in the sport,

429
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Speaker 2: but he's doing this in such a fan friendly way,

430
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Speaker 2: even more than Floyd was able to. So I give

431
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: him that tip of the cap. If he wants Saunders,

432
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 2: if he wants Plant or I'm here front roll.

433
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Speaker 1: Let's do this. Yeah, I mean Spence angling for a

434
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Speaker 1: Canelo fight, I mean, get the fuck out of here

435
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: with this. You got business with Bud Crawford and nobody else.

436
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't even want to entertain that said, I wouldn't

437
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Speaker 1: be a fun fight sort of in a vacuum, but like,

438
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Speaker 1: given where we're at, I was like, get the fuck

439
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Speaker 1: out of here with this, Okay, So what do I

440
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: think should be next? Well, I mean, here's the way

441
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: I look at it, BC. The Triple G fight to me,

442
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: when they fought the first time, King Mo really disagreed

443
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Speaker 1: with me when he watched it. But I thought Triple

444
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: G won that fight, okay, And I thought he got

445
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: a little bit screwed. In the second fight. I thought

446
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: Canelo won and more to the point, the adjustments Canelo

447
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: was able to make him mean he fought totally different

448
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: the second time around. That I was amazed at his

449
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: growth and change in strategy and his ability to implement

450
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: such a uniquely different game plan the second time around.

451
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Speaker 1: I acknowledge that the second fight was close. I don't

452
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Speaker 1: mean to say that there's no debate about that one either.

453
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Speaker 1: Just for me, I recognize that I think the best

454
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Speaker 1: case for saying Triple G got screwed comes from the

455
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Speaker 1: first not the second fight. That being said, B, see,

456
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can look at these two

457
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Speaker 1: guys today and decide that this fight is going to

458
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Speaker 1: be even as competitive as the second one, and that's

459
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Speaker 1: just speculation. Nobody really knows in the end, and I

460
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: certainly agree that there is real market potential. I mean,

461
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: everywhere Canelo goes. It has to be annoying that he

462
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Speaker 1: still has to answer questions about whether or not he

463
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Speaker 1: wants to fight Triple G and what about Triple G

464
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Speaker 1: this and Triple G that. But I don't think that's

465
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Speaker 1: the fight to make anymore. I think Canelo has passed

466
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Speaker 1: him at this point. I think he's passed him by

467
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Speaker 1: enough of a margin where I don't know if he

468
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Speaker 1: stops him, but I certainly think he gets a clean

469
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Speaker 1: and comfortable win. And all that would do for Triple

470
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Speaker 1: G is remind folks that when it came time for

471
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Speaker 1: this trilogy to really be done, the guy who was

472
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Speaker 1: better all along, even if you could argue in your

473
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: mind opposite, would be Canelo Alvarez. It would actually undercut

474
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Speaker 1: the value of the sort of robbery, or at least

475
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: the questionable decision anyway from the first fight. It doesn't

476
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Speaker 1: actually service him to me. So if I'm Canelo Alvarez,

477
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: or a least if I'm a Canelo Alvarez, fan or observer.

478
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: I also recognize that what I'm about to say is

479
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Speaker 1: not what the market dictates. In fact, for that reason,

480
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Speaker 1: I suspect it probably won't happen. But I'm going to

481
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: argue for Archerbteriev. And the reason why I'm going to

482
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Speaker 1: say that is because it's not that the fight with

483
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Speaker 1: Plant doesn't hold value. Again, unifying all the titles at

484
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Speaker 1: one sixty eight would be obviously quite impressive, and there's

485
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Speaker 1: ways to get it done without a whole lot of

486
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Speaker 1: hassle and rigamarole in terms of the negotiations, given where

487
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Speaker 1: they already are. But I would say BC that if

488
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Speaker 1: you beat Callum Smith this way, can somebody really make

489
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Speaker 1: the case that Caleb Plant has a much better chance

490
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Speaker 1: than Callum Smith against.

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Speaker 2: This version, totally different style. Though he has understanding speed,

492
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Speaker 2: he can box. I don't think he. I don't know

493
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Speaker 2: if he can take Canelo's best punches. But can Caleb

494
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Speaker 2: Plant can box bro?

495
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're the biggest Caleb Plant fan there is

496
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Speaker 1: besides his mom. So let's sort of like put that

497
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: caveat out there. I'm not telling you that Caleb Plant

498
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: is trash. He is, if not the best guy one

499
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Speaker 1: sixty eight with the second best. I mean, this is

500
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about in terms of where he stands

501
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixty eight. But the ease with

502
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Speaker 1: which I mean Canelo didn't just get by Callen Smith.

503
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: He walked over him. It was not especially close. And

504
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: so I recognize styles make fights, and there are reasons

505
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Speaker 1: to think it'd be more difficult. But BC, gun to

506
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: your head, is Caleb Plant the guy to beat Canelo Alvarez?

507
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Speaker 1: Know the fuck he is not now?

508
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: I believe that he could. Last year, I believed it

509
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: would be a really close fight. This version of Canelo

510
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 2: now is is separating it because the one thing you

511
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: can say negative against Caleb Plant is he after the

512
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: Uskatiki fight, he just has not fought a lead competition.

513
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: They've been setting him up against guys he can look

514
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Speaker 2: great against because he's marketable as a let's be honest,

515
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Speaker 2: as an unbeaten white fighter who can talk with a

516
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: great backstory, right, I mean, come on, all right, So.

517
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Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on this is, if he

518
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Speaker 1: goes the Plant direction, it's hardly a scandal. If he

519
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: goes to triple G direction, you get it. You know,

520
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: the market's going to dictate what the market's going to dictate.

521
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Speaker 1: But to me and Triple G next year, Billy Jo,

522
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not interested in Billy Jo Sunder's at all, whatsoever,

523
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Speaker 1: I have zero interest in. Let me just say this

524
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Speaker 1: last point. I'll put you back to BC the operative

525
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Speaker 1: question that I am working with. And again this is

526
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: just my interpretation. No one has to agree. But the

527
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Speaker 1: only way I'm looking at this is to say, when

528
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: I look at the landscape of the weight classes in

529
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Speaker 1: which he is reasonably considering, who stands the best chance

530
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Speaker 1: of giving this guy a fight or even beating him

531
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Speaker 1: and the clear and you can even say Dimitri Bevell

532
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to do that. But the guy I'm

533
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: thinking about is but Terebef. That guy, you can clearly say,

534
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: would be like, you know what, if Canelo could beat him,

535
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: then you're talking about an all time great at that point.

536
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: That would be so phenomenal that it would be shattering

537
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Speaker 1: in the boxing world. That's why that's the one I

538
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: want to see.

539
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Speaker 2: So here's what we need for that to happen. Okay,

540
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: we would need Canelo to collect the two belts he

541
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Speaker 2: doesn't have first at one sixty eight, and we would

542
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: need ESPN and top rank to really make Burbev a

543
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: star really just I mean, look better be Beturbev. However

544
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: you want to say it. He's right there at like

545
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: number eleven on my Powfer pound list. The guys what

546
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: he did to Alexander Vodzik and Senate took his title,

547
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: knocked him out and retired him. I mean, this guy

548
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 2: is a force of nature. Canelo would have to out

549
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: box him. It would be a great challenge, but you

550
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: need that guy to get popular first to make it

551
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: really worth it. I do think if Canelo gets all

552
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: the four belts at one sixty eight and is only

553
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: you know, let's say thirty two years old, at the

554
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: end of that road, yeah, he's probably gonna look at

555
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: one seventy five and see can I do this? He's

556
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: gonna need stars though, So that's why I don't I

557
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: don't shit on the Spence idea. Maybe not right now.

558
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: To your point. Also, I'm not convinced Canelo really wants

559
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: to make sixty one sixty ever again, so he would

560
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: he would Also, he would kind of need Errol Spence

561
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Speaker 2: to defeat Bud Crawford first, become that star, that star

562
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 2: of stars at welterweight and then make it worth it

563
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: for Canelo to come down. And wait, I also don't

564
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: want to throw away this idea. I do think it's

565
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: a short window for it. So before we move on

566
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: to MMA, let me just say this, Raf Bartholomew, you

567
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: know my great boxing mind, my brethren in this podcast game,

568
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: he always wanted andre Ward to come out of retirement

569
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: and fight Canelo. And in the beginning, before Canelo established

570
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: himself at one sixty eight, I was like, no, man,

571
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: he's too big, He's not as marketable as other big stars. Ward,

572
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: by the way, going into the Hall of Fame in

573
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one class. Luke, he'll be thirty seven

574
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Speaker 2: in a couple months. I think it's a small window,

575
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Speaker 2: meaning you have to do it next year. But would

576
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: you be down for that Ward? They could do it

577
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: at one seventy five. Ward is a legitimate light heavyweight

578
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: with speed boxing ability. He would in theory have a

579
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: power advantage over Canelo as well. That's that would be

580
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: the toughest fricking challenge of a remaining legend unbeaten guy

581
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: who could give you such critical value and Canelo loves

582
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: stockpiling these names on his resume. Right when andre Ward

583
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: retired three years ago, he was your pound for pound

584
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: king after beating Kovalev twice. There'd be a lot to

585
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: gain in that fight, not maybe pay per view bys

586
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: as much as others, but just in terms of like,

587
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: did I beat everybody in my era that I could have?

588
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: I think there's a small window. And even though andre

589
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: Ward is back and forth on the idea, I think

590
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: there's part of him that wants one more big challenge.

591
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of it because

592
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: I actually rewatched the Vosdik and better be evertary F fight.

593
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce his name properly, but

594
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: and I remember in the beginning of that fight, andre

595
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Ward is like, you know, I left the division in

596
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: good hands. These guys are these guys are amazing, and

597
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: you could kind of tell he was like all yours

598
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: fellas you know. So for the reasons you articulate, not

599
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: a big sales thing, because I don't think his two

600
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: fights with Cobale have sold all that well. In fact,

601
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: I remember one of them only had like ten thousand

602
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: people there. Who's not in necessarily the biggest box office draw,

603
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: but that an interesting name. I mean, I don't hate

604
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: the idea. Listen, I don't hate the idea. I actually

605
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: do not hate the idea. It's just of all the

606
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: possibilities to go to, that one wouldn't be the worst

607
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: thing to me, better than you know, a lot of

608
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: other choices. But it's not my first choice. It's not

609
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: even my second or third. It's just an interesting, sort

610
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: of sideways thing of looking at it. So the way

611
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: I go, all right, well, before our audience decides to

612
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: completely kill us and abandon us completely BC, let's go

613
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: to their favorite sport in the world. It's time to

614
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: talk to some MMA.

615
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: All right, hate boxing. They hate us, Luke.

616
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: They hate us. They hate boxing so much it's like

617
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: it to It's like we're not talking about nobody's We're

618
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: talking about the best fighter in the fucking sport. What

619
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you want. And by the way, I had someone reach

620
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: out being like, why don't you I'll talk about kickboxing

621
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: because people fucking don't like kickboxing. That's why. I mean, yeah,

622
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: it's like kickboxing. Kickboxing is like Brazil, It's forever the

623
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: sport of the future. I like kickboxing. I was watching

624
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of it last night. I was watching a

625
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: bunch of Joseph aut the Leani last night.

626
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Botr Harvey got sent to hell by that guy right.

627
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: By Joseph Attig. Buuieh's actually a cool guy. I interviewed

628
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: him a couple of times on I work for Glory.

629
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I actually like kickboxing. But the notion that like, oh well,

630
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: if you you know, the complaint is that we cover

631
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: a sister sport to MMA. It's like, you want us

632
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: to cover another sister sport to MMA that no one watches.

633
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: That's what you want us to cover. Like okay, I

634
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: mean that's a terrible idea. But all right, forgetting all

635
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: of that for just a moment, let's talk about MMA,

636
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: all right. So we had the last UFC show of

637
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: the year at BC, and we had the old guys

638
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: getting it done. I had my instant reaction on the

639
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: Morning Combat Channel and of course a million other podcasts

640
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: that I do to make sure to undercut this one,

641
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: but BC, let's go to you first on this one. Dude,

642
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: it was not close. Wonder Boy won that one. His

643
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: face was fucked up. I mean it was you know,

644
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: it was a difficult fight in the sense of physically

645
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: getting through it, but competitively BC not close at all.

646
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: What what can you say about wonder Boy? And is

647
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: he close to a title shot?

648
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's close enough. He's gonna need a big win

649
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: over a top five guys. So I think it was

650
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: smart of him to try to throw mos Vidal's name

651
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: out there, considering when they fought a couple years ago,

652
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: Thompson beat the brakes off him and it was a

653
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: dominant performance. What Thompson showed you in this one, Luke,

654
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: is that even at thirty seven, he's still a guy

655
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: that will soundly beat the B plus and B and

656
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: B minus fighters. But can he beat the A minus

657
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: and A in championship guys. We're gonna find that out, hopefully.

658
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 2: I think he deserves one more run when you look

659
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: at the totality of having gotten so close in the

660
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: two fight series with Woodley for the title. I thought

661
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: he kind of got jobbed against Till, But you know,

662
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: you can debate it all you want. He's overcome some injuries.

663
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: He got injured again his knee in this one, so

664
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Speaker 2: we'll have to see. I just wonder because I was

665
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: so high on Jeff Neil coming in, how much all

666
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: of these things Jeff Neil's talking about after the fight

667
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: are true and should skewer our you know, love for

668
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: the performance? Wonder boy? Did I mean Jeff Neil's saying

669
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: he had no use of one of his eyes from

670
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: the end of the first round on. Now he's saying,

671
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: did you see this Luke? This headline this morning? He's

672
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: saying he had like cardiac arrest during training camp and

673
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: he had like something else. I mean, this is getting

674
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: out of handle a little bit. You do you know

675
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: the specifics of this Luke?

676
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Well, I know he had a severe medical ailment prior

677
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: to the fight, which had, you know, kept him out

678
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: of competition circles for a while. I think he who's

679
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: dealing with about of sepsis and it was very serious.

680
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: So the fact that he could get over that and

681
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: just come right back to fighting, and I mean, I'm

682
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: sure he took some of his time. I've not seen

683
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: the specific allegations, but like, would it surprise.

684
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: You Congestive heart failure he says he had. I'm sorry

685
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: I was looking at the story. Congestive heart failure he

686
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: said he had during training camp. How the hell was

687
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: he cleared to fight this.

688
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.

689
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, these pre fight medical screens, dude,

690
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: they're not all that money. You know, there's something. I mean,

691
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: they alvisusly hold some value, but it's hard to know

692
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: where to begin an end with that. I mean, I'm

693
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: happy to entertain the idea that that wasn't the best

694
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Jeff we'd ever seen by a million miles, and that

695
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna take him a couple more fights

696
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: before he even feels like himself again. Fine, but I'm

697
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: not really ready to slander wonder Boy either. I mean,

698
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: let's be honest about something. I was looking this up BC.

699
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Wonder Boy made his debut in twenty twelve or so,

700
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and some of the names he was beating back then,

701
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: like the Dan, I think I have it up here somewhere.

702
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I want to pull it up if I can.

703
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh, his resume is freaking amazing. No one given him

704
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: enough credit.

705
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: But also it's like he has He's had an eight

706
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: year run and he's still beating top contenders. He was

707
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: sitting at five before this fight. He's gonna at least

708
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: be there for the time being, if not go up

709
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe a tick or two. But this is my point.

710
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: You know who else had an eight year run in

711
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: the UFC but then just got bounced out? John Fitch,

712
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: now John Fitch. When he was around in the UFC,

713
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't the boogeyman to Saint Pierre, but it was

714
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: pretty much like, if you're not fighting Saint Pierre, this

715
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: is the other best guy in this weight class by

716
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: and large. And again that faded over time eventually as well.

717
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: And to be clear, Thompson has had his losses, but

718
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: to be eight years into the UFC's walterweight division, to

719
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: be thirty seven years old, thirty eight in February, and

720
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: to still be as good as he is, as nimble

721
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: as he is, you know, is he as sprightly as

722
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: he once was? No, he took a lot of damage

723
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: in this, even though he routed him and we talked

724
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: about pre fight. Even though his defense is still good,

725
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: his chin is certainly not what it once was. Just understandably,

726
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: the passage of time and of course the accumulation of damage,

727
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: even if it's relatively minimal, will still have an impact

728
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: over the course of your career. But I want to

729
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: just say, to be that long in the UFC's walterweight

730
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: division and to still be beating young guns the way

731
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: he is, that is extremely extremely impressive. Now to your point, BC,

732
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: how close is he to a title shot, Well, he's

733
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: still got a little bit of a waste to go

734
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: one two more fights probably at least. I don't know

735
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: if he can beat the very best guys in this

736
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: weight class, but I just think that there's another way

737
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: to measure greatness. Eight years and one of the most

738
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: difficult weight class. When you look at the guys he

739
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: was beating early. I don't even know if those guys

740
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: are still in MMA. I don't know if the Dan

741
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Stigens are still there. I mean, Jake Ellenberger is retired.

742
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: You can go on and on. Johnny Hendricks gone knocked

743
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: out Hendrix. Yeah, right, be those guys, they're not even

744
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: competing anymore. He's still there doing that, dude. That is remarkable.

745
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he stopped Robert Whitaker, a walter wad.

746
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: He beat Rory McDonald at a point where we didn't

747
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: think he would do it that convincingly. I just wonder

748
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: about Jeff Neil because wasn't he trying to take like

749
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: a full time job during the quarantine to make ends meet,

750
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: because you know he couldn't get a fight or whatever.

751
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he gutted it out just the

752
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: same to even have moments in that fifth round. So

753
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: I give Jeff Neil a lot of credit. I just

754
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: hope he wasn't coming in as a shadow of himself

755
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: just to get a paycheck, which sometimes can be the

756
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: reality in fighting. But yeah, you nailed it. Shout out

757
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: to a really strong performance for Wonder Boy. I mean,

758
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: he's in incredible shape. He seems to be evolving his game.

759
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he made that comment before the fight that

760
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: you know, the wonder Boy of five years ago wouldn't

761
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: even be competitive today against the elite. So he's really

762
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: added wrinkles to that karate gat. I feel like people

763
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: figured out Macheetah's rhythm of the weird karate style, but

764
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: Wonder Broyce sort of been able to still use that

765
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: to his advantage. No one's really solved him completely in

766
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: that regard. But what he's doing right now is key luke.

767
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: He's back in the title conversation, and as you know,

768
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: especially during COVID times, you just have to be healthy

769
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: in shape, and by the phone, you never know when

770
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: he may end up getting a title shot.

771
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to the point, listen, I don't know what

772
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: health ailments Jeff Neil says. I don't take Jeff Neil

773
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: as a liar. You know, if that guy says he

774
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: has some health ailments, I'm perfectly willing to believe him. Okay,

775
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: fair enough. But the fight before this PC he routed

776
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Vicente Luke and Luca had some moments in that one

777
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: as well. But you know what I mean, it's like, dude,

778
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: you're not I mean, Vicente Luka is not a chump.

779
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: He is a very good fighter, and of course at

780
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: this age, wonder Boy still beating him. But I want

781
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: to list some of these names that Wonder Boy was

782
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: beating back in his early UFC run. So this is

783
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: him in the UFC. Dan Stige and No Sean Burrell,

784
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: Chris Clements, Whitaker who's now up a weight class, Patrick Ota,

785
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: Jake Ellenberger, Johnny Hendricks, and Rowny MacDonald and of course

786
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: he had the Woodley fights and Jorge Maswital. I mean,

787
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's a different world and he's still competitive.

788
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: I just can't say enough good things about it. It's

789
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable now. B see one more note on this.

790
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me, Okay, maybe he's doing well at welterweight,

791
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: could he do even better with a switch to middleweight?

792
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, what do you think could his fortunes be

793
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: turned with a bit of a weight class change. I don't.

794
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything that tells me, you know, you're

795
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: not maximizing your opportunities right now. I mean, it doesn't

796
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: seem to be like he's a guy who kills himself

797
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: making walter weight, although I'm obviously not there with the

798
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: sweatsuits on with him. I seem to like his reach

799
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: and speed and having enough pop at this weight class.

800
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: What are you specifically looking at Luke that moving up

801
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: would help.

802
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Him with Well, it gets to the fourth point, so

803
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: let me use that as a bridge to bring in

804
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the conversation with Jose alt So, Jose Aldo, he also

805
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: looked awesome on Saturday night. I mean, that's the best

806
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: he's looked at bansomweight. Maybe there's individual rounds you could

807
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: pick out, and you want to put the point number

808
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: four on the board there, boys, that'd be great. You

809
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: could pick out individual rounds. You could say from the

810
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Yon fight or the Moris fight or something like that.

811
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: But as a comprehensive performance, soup to nuts, this was amazing.

812
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: And so here's the thing I was thinking about, though,

813
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: BC as good as he looks, and he looked good,

814
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: and I want you to say what you learned watching him?

815
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: You know what's kind of funny. His fortunes are not

816
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: really different at bansomweight than they were at featherweight. I mean,

817
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: consider for a second, he had lost twice by stoppage

818
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: to Max, but he rebounded against Moi Kano and Stevens

819
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: and then lost, you know, a decision to Volkanovsky. But

820
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: he didn't get beat up or anything. He just got

821
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: out pointed. Okay, you're not gonna win the title, but

822
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: you're still gonna beat really good guys. Then he goes

823
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: down to bansomweight, and let's say even he won the

824
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: Marii's fight, and then of course, you know he lost

825
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: the Yon fight. Okay, he wins this one. He still

826
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: can't beat the guys who are gonna win title, but

827
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna beat the other ones. In other words, he's

828
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: in a position now where we're still talking about how

829
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: great he is, how dynamic he looks, but he didn't

830
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: meaningfully like change his proximity to the title. He just

831
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of refreshed the opposition, refreshed the challenges. And I

832
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: think we're all pretty impressed by that. That's why I

833
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: was asking a little bit about wonder Boy. But your

834
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Josee Aldo.

835
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I think for all

836
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: those specifically on the way class change, on why it's

837
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: helping him so much. As the guys are smaller, they're

838
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: not as long, they're not as powerful, and it's able

839
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: to really, Hey, can we get Luke off the screen?

840
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: Who the hell's directing this show? Is this a j problem?

841
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: There we go, thank you very.

842
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: Much, And you know, it's just basically like he exposed

843
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: Marlon Vera was red hot. This was a great fight

844
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: on paper, but he showed you that there's levels to

845
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: the skills and the experience and the expertise. Luke. What's

846
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: crazy is we're rightfully praising jose Aldough and we're gonna

847
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: talk in a second what big fights you know should

848
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: be left for him? And is he all that far

849
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: out of the title picture Despite losing the title shot

850
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: to Payotrey on Let's not forget that had he lost this, Luke,

851
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: we're probably sending him to Bellatore in our eyes, right,

852
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: we're probably like four straight losses. Is this gonna be

853
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: one of those sneaky financial cuts for UFC? He needed

854
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: this bad I didn't understand the whole tattoo on ta tee.

855
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: That was a patch that he pulled off. But I

856
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: will say this is a badass victory the same way

857
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: the knockouts of Stevens and moy Kano came at a

858
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: time that seemed delicate and sensitive to whether he was

859
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: the same guy, because he went on his sword in

860
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: such dramatic fashion twice against Halloway. I mean, look, Hallowa

861
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: beat the piss out of him twice. I mean, you know,

862
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: and I was really worried about him at that point.

863
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: Those wins recalibrated where he's at. This one did too,

864
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: And this is really the sign of a legend. I mean,

865
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: I don't think we give even Frankie Edgar enough credit

866
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: for his constant reinvention. This is a really nice win

867
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: in that regard. And he's fun at this weight class.

868
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: He's got monster power and yet can still pull out

869
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: the trick, says he had to do in this one

870
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: to really show Vera that that there's.

871
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Levels and doing it everywhere at distance. But when Vera

872
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: wanted to clinch, stuffing takedowns, creating separation, and then a

873
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: third round taking his back, I mean, it was just remarkable. Dude.

874
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: He is still very much a force in mixed martial

875
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: arts and the bands await division. Maybe not the best

876
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: guy in that way class, but he's going to give

877
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: anyone who's not a very very hard night. The thing

878
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: that is the through line for me BC that I

879
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: just don't understand is here's the one thing I don't

880
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: get from the younger guys a little bit. And I'm

881
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: no MMA coach, so there must be some kind of

882
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: explanation that I don't understand. But if you look at

883
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: jose Aldo and you look at wonder Boy Thompson, there's

884
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of tape on both of them, a lot

885
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: of tape. There's a lot of known ways to beat them.

886
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Now that's easier said than done. But I did not

887
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: see Jeff Neil, and again maybe he had a series

888
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: of health complications, who the hell knows, but cheto Vera was,

889
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: for all we know, not in one of those kinds

890
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: of Jeff Neil situations and was just giving the guy

891
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: way too much space, way too much time. And you

892
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: do that against the guy like Aldo. It's like, dude,

893
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: we saw how Max beat him twice. You saw how

894
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: Volkonovski beat them. There's lessons there, like what do you do? Well, Okay,

895
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: let's take those things and use it towards a game

896
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: plan of removing those conditions under which Aldo thrives. These

897
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: are known conditions. It's not a mystery, and again easier

898
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: said than done, but it's it wasn't like they were tried.

899
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: He didn't really try them here. It's a little hard

900
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: for me to understand that it's fair. That's fair, all right,

901
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: No selling me there a little bit, all right. But

902
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: it leads to an interesting question to b see. Okay,

903
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: who should he fight next? I thought, Aldo, I'm gonna

904
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: say this, BCID, I wonder what you feel about it.

905
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Aldo calls out in the post fight interview, I believe

906
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: with John Annick. He calls out TJ. Delashaw, Brian Campbell,

907
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: I believe true or false, or you can say whether

908
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: I'm right or I'm wrong. I believe this is absolutely

909
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: the perfect fight to make at Bantamwait, and here's my case,

910
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: and I want to know what you think of it.

911
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: I'll make it very short. There's a lot of questions

912
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: about how is TJ going to look, and nobody really

913
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: knows the answers two years off, you know, what about

914
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: the EPO? What about some of the injuries. By the way,

915
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: he had both shoulders repaired, and we can tell with

916
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo maybe he can't beat Peter Yan and maybe

917
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: some of the very best guys, but if you're not

918
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: one of them, he's gonna beat you. It's the perfect

919
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: test to see exactly where TJ is and it's a

920
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: huge opportunity for Aldo to gain some momentum with what

921
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: time he has left at Bantamway, do you agree with

922
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: this story?

923
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: No? I fully agree, and I'll even add on top

924
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: of that it might be his shortest path back to

925
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: the title, Luke, because while all those questions about TJ.

926
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: Dillashaw are right on, I mean we just don't know,

927
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: right Could he be a you know, stopping job diet

928
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 2: cola version of himself without all that juice so to speak,

929
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: or just the age. I mean, he ain't young, and

930
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: the injuries and all that you know UFC would be

931
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: willing to put him in a title opportunity because of

932
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: the name alone. Luke, I'm actually a little bit surprised

933
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: he's not just parachuting back in to a title shot

934
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: given some of the UFC's matchmaking choices. So if you're

935
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: al though, this might be your only chance to get

936
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: back to the title with a big win here, and

937
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: the guy's coming in with so many questions. Aldo's ben

938
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: active and busy and matchup wise. I mean, look, if

939
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: TJ's on point, the speed and elusiveness are going to

940
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: be tough for all though to deal with. But although

941
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 2: it is also an incredible counterpuncher at this weight class

942
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: where I think it might be Bull and Matador style,

943
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: that could play out very well for either of them.

944
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: So I love this fight. I love two old names

945
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: and stars. You add in the potential for title opportunities here.

946
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: I really want to know who Dilla Shaw is because, Luke,

947
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: you know I was monster huge on him. I mean

948
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: I picked him to beat everyone he beat in that

949
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: run before the drugs in the Suhudo, I didn't think

950
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: he lost to a Sansau or dominant Cruz. I'm not

951
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: sure I've ever seen him lose in that regard. You know,

952
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: I even have an asterisk on the cutting down in

953
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: weight loss to Suhudo. But when he got caught the

954
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: way he did, I mean, look, I'm a reformed uh

955
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: that thanks to you, a reform believer in this whole

956
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: drug thing that like they're all using. But it was

957
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: a little bit shattering just the same to be like,

958
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: man was all that fake? Is he not that guy? Uh?

959
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can prove that he still is, Luke,

960
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: there's a two years off is a lot when you're

961
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: already like thirty four to thirty five years old. So yeah,

962
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: perfect fight book it. It can't be a main event

963
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: on a pay per view, but it would certainly be

964
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: a spectacular comme.

965
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Or you could make it the main event for

966
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: a fight night, depending on how the calendar rolls out.

967
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: I just love everything about it.

968
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: Now.

969
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know TJ's willingness, But if you're TJ and

970
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: they're not going to parachute you back into a title

971
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: shot and you go out there and you fight Josaldo

972
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: and you whip his ass, depending on the you know,

973
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean that's not a given. But let's say that

974
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: you do. Dude, they can't deny you at that point.

975
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no denying that at bantamweight, even with

976
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: the Marais loss. And you know he gave Peter Yon

977
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: hell for a time as well, and then he has

978
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: this win over Cheeto Vera. Dude, he can fight. He

979
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: is still super super good, still athletics, still powerful. I

980
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: think he's making the cuts of one thirty five better

981
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: and better each time. You can beat that guy, and

982
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: you can beat that guy soundly, they will give you

983
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: a title shot at that point. The controversy, the fact

984
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: of the matter. I mean, there's just so many things

985
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: in terms of your favor to get it done, and

986
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: it just will be a hell of a fight. You know,

987
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: it's good to see from Aldo this time. Be see

988
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: leg kicks. Yeah, he didn't overuse them, but he had

989
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: a bunch of really good ones. Left hook to the body,

990
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: right leg kick, he was hammering, chia stand switch.

991
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, his his focus now on the body. Although, yeah,

992
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: look bring him back the kicks. Even the kicks he

993
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: was checking from Vera in the first round was very

994
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: effective for him. But him as a targeted left hook

995
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: to the liver guy now is extra dangerous, Luke, I

996
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: love this version of Aldough. I mean, you know, it

997
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: was tough to see Peter jan sit on his back

998
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: and punch him in the back of the skull twenty

999
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: five times in a pool of blood. Outside of that,

1000
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: I've loved this version of Josie Aldo at bantamweight. I mean,

1001
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: he's a man down there, you know, and it's gotta

1002
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: be a hillacious cut. I always thought he would go

1003
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: up to lightweight, but now I think about it. He's

1004
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: too small, right, that would have been disastrous, right.

1005
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. He waits too small, but at

1006
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Bansaway there's a lot of life lift in him, a

1007
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: lot of lifelift in them all, right, BC, let's get

1008
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: to point number five now, So good or bad, top

1009
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: or bottom, whatever you want to say? Who else from

1010
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: this weekend, especially from the UFC card, because there were

1011
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: so many fights on, there was something else you notice

1012
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: that you wanted to comment on. What would you say?

1013
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: I got a lot of them because this card, Let's

1014
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: give him credit. They packed in a lot of names

1015
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: and storylines that we cared about. I was blown away

1016
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: of Michelle Padada, Luke that he uh didn't fuck you?

1017
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: He's so blowing.

1018
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not trying to stay on brand being against

1019
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: his ridiculous theatrics for the sake of it, but straight

1020
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: up after a thorough performance in his last fight, which

1021
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: showed you he might be able to figure this out

1022
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: and be for real. Look, he's in there against a

1023
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: dangerous dude in Chaos Williams, and I don't care if

1024
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: you were not entertained. And yeah, maybe he didn't throw

1025
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: enough strikes, but he was the more tactical fighter. I

1026
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: never would have guessed in a million years that circus

1027
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: clown Panata and Chaos Williams would put on a like

1028
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: tactical sparring match, but that's what it was. And guess

1029
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: what your guy, Pereira, as you would say like an

1030
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: absolutely jahole, not respecting South America at all, you linguistic bastard. Really,

1031
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: what I want to say is that he looked good

1032
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: in that role. Look, I think the perfect merger for

1033
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: him is obviously using his athleticism in the right way,

1034
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: but also figuring out how to be more technical. He's

1035
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: showing us that. I wasn't disappointed at all. I saw

1036
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: people saying he was boring. Oh, maybe he didn't deserve

1037
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: that decision. Now, that was a good ass performance. This

1038
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: old guy in the porch with the shotgun loved it.

1039
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no denying that. That is he listened. He

1040
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: looked better in terms of the calculations needed to get

1041
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: a w at this level. But congratulations everybody who wanted

1042
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: to remove any hints of personality that this guy had

1043
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: in terms of his fighting style. Now he's athletic and

1044
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: okay versus maybe not all that great, but capable of

1045
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: incredible moments of excitement. And what do you want?

1046
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: You wanted to gas out doing cartwheels on the way

1047
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: to the Yes, that is exactly.

1048
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: What I want. Yes, yes, Like what do you prefer?

1049
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: You've got a better fighter now? Okay, but he's not

1050
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: that much better, and he's a lot more boring. That's

1051
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: what you want? BC.

1052
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, I had to turn off the dehumidifier. First of all,

1053
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: don't tell me my business devil woman. But yeah, no,

1054
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: I want him to try to be as great as

1055
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: you can be. Obviously, I don't want him to be

1056
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: boring or take away some of the excitement. I just

1057
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: want him to figure out how to merge that excitement

1058
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: into moves that actually can help you win a fight

1059
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: rather than just I have an awesome personality and I

1060
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: will show it to you like you can show me

1061
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: that during the way in when it's fight night, show

1062
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: me that you're here to win, all right? If not,

1063
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: then go somewhere else. Go take Chatre's forty eight billion

1064
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: views of the fight.

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Speaker 1: Okay, please BC. Is Greg Hardy a good heavyweight or not?

1066
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: He might be Shane Carwin? Now, Luke okay, because for

1067
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: one round he's like everybody on the planet watched that

1068
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: first round of him against Martine ty Burro and we're like,

1069
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's way better than I give him credit.

1070
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: He has evolved at such a rapid pace. Shout out

1071
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: to sugar Shot Evans who trains with him a lot.

1072
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: And then you know, then he completely pulled the Carwin

1073
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 2: versus Lesner and not only guessed out but just showed

1074
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: remedial qualities on the ground. I mean, Luke lost in

1075
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: this is the fact that Martine ty Burro somehow foreign.

1076
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: Oh this calendar year, right, we don't talk about him

1077
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: in the Kevin holland kamzat chamayav conversations. And I would

1078
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: you know, you could want a lot of money on

1079
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: that bet. But that's a bad loss for Greg Hardy,

1080
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: and I know that you people may say his last

1081
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: win he kind of faded a bit, you know, before

1082
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: before winning that, but it is a bad fade, Luke,

1083
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's five minutes off right now, he's

1084
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Speaker 2: got to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: On the feet, he looks awesome. I mean, there's just

1086
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: no denying he looked very, very good. He was. If

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Speaker 1: that fight had stayed on the feet PC for another round,

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Speaker 1: I honestly think he would have stopped Tyboro. I really

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Speaker 1: believe that, or you know, gotten some kind of ten

1090
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: eight round or something. I mean, he was there was

1091
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: a major gap between them on the feet, and then

1092
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: the second round, once he ended up underneath and immediately

1093
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: Tyboro went for that crossed wrist control, he was donezo.

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00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: He had no ability to fight back. Now, you know,

1095
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: there was a lot of shots to the back of

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00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the head from Tyboro, which I think deserves to be acknowledged.

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Speaker 1: But I watched for preparation for today. I went back

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: and I watched this morning. What was the fight before

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00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: this one, the Maurice screen fight, Right, it was the

1100
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: same kind of thing, A little bit or on the feet,

1101
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: he looked way better than Marie Screen, and then on

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Speaker 1: the ground he ended up on top because he kind

1103
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: of I think he knocked him down or Marie Screen

1104
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: pulled or something. He had good control on top for

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00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: the most part, so it's not like his ground game

1106
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: in totality is terrible. His striking is very good, and

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00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: on top against most heavyweights, he's probably gonna have enough

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00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: to keep his balance or avoid the worst of things.

1109
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: But if he gets put on his back, holy shit, man,

1110
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: he looks like a wrestler from two thousand and three

1111
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: where they do. These guys were just getting in to

1112
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: MMA from collegiate wrestling.

1113
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: And they had it looks like our Jimmerson. Come on, dude,

1114
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: he looks worse than that.

1115
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I just give him the one boxing glove

1116
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: and call today it was. It was alarming to me

1117
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: how different it was. And people always say, like, how

1118
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: long does it take to get good at the ground game? Dude?

1119
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Some people never do, like you could train your whole

1120
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: life and not necessarily be all that good. I don't

1121
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: know how long it's gonna take him, but here's what

1122
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll say. On the feet, dude, Greg Hardy has he's

1123
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: as good as anyone, well, I wants to good as anyone.

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00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: He is very, very capable of winning fights at an

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Speaker 1: elite level in the UFC on the feet, I think

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00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: that is true. But if you've got this kind of

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00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: weakness where you're like regional MMA level on the ground

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00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: off of your back, dude, you have no hope. The

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00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: one thing I will say for him that deserves to

1130
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: be still a little bit of a asterisk over the

1131
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: whole thing is I was trying to get a list

1132
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: of everyone who has made their pro debut in the UFC,

1133
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: and I know he fought Contender Series, but I'm gonna

1134
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: call that UFC And the answer there is it's not

1135
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: a great list, dude. I mean, you got some of

1136
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: the older guys like I think Tito Ortiz maybe or

1137
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: BJ Penn or something, but the other ones do like

1138
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: they don't really necessarily turn out to be all that awesome,

1139
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: like Amir Sadala. Your best case BC is going to

1140
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: be like a Matt Mitchreilan who had some good wins, right,

1141
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he beat Gabriel Gonzaga. You know, he had

1142
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: some moments in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, but it took

1143
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: him about four or five years to get there. Now

1144
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Hardy's been doing this two three years if you want

1145
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: to count the amateurs, he still has a long way

1146
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: to go. And again, on the feet he has really

1147
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: look good. But Jesus Teddy fucking Christ, I mean on

1148
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: the ground, that is such a liability. Anybody watching that

1149
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: is gonna look at him and say, dude, we're gonna

1150
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: get your ass from now until eternity until you figure

1151
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: that out. And he has a long, long, long way

1152
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: to go. So if you're on the list of dudes

1153
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: who made their debut in the UFC History shows, you

1154
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: can get better. For sure, you can even beat good guys,

1155
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: but your ceiling is somewhat limited.

1156
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: Did you just say titty fing my savior? Like that

1157
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: just took anything I've ever done or said on this

1158
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 2: show purposely or by accident.

1159
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: And like it's one of my favorite sayings. Actually, So

1160
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: there you go.

1161
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm offend you. Yeah, yeah, he's got to figure this out. Luke,

1162
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: by the way, Tamburrow sent him to hell on the

1163
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: interview afterwards, he's like, I guess with everything Hardy was saying,

1164
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: I should call out Tyson Fury and Anthony. Well, Anthony

1165
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: Joshua right now.

1166
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can see why he was saying

1167
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: it now, like on the feet, not that he would

1168
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: beat those guys, but like all right on the feet.

1169
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's got a little razzle dazzle for sure.

1170
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: I'll give him that.

1171
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Greg Hardy against Jake Paul and boxing who you got?

1172
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, there's that last, but not least. We have

1173
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: to make a mention before we move on to the

1174
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: DMS from Donks, what about Marlon Marice? Dude, he's in

1175
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: a bad spot. That was a devastating loss. I thought,

1176
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: what did you make of what?

1177
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: What?

1178
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Not only did what go wrong for him on Saturday ABC,

1179
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: what has gone wrong for him generally?

1180
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he was a killer entering that Sahudo fight,

1181
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: and he looked great in the opening round, and I think,

1182
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: you know, I've actually talked to him about that fight,

1183
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: and he says, you know, I kind of went too

1184
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: aggressive and and didn't gas out, but you know, was

1185
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: stammina reduced enough for su Hudo to take over and

1186
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: beat me? And you know he he thought he had

1187
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: learned from that. Well, look, I thought he beat Jose Aldough.

1188
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: It was close, but I thought, you know, he had

1189
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: a better third round, especially those last couple of minutes,

1190
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: and I thought he won that. He still showed you

1191
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: that he's super elite. But uh, what's happened since then?

1192
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: Luke?

1193
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I have all my uh

1194
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: my fact straight for Marlon Maria's Yeah, so since that

1195
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 2: all though? Fight? Oh okay he got he got spinning

1196
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: back kicked by Cory Sanagan and now he got stopped

1197
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: in the first round by font Yeah. It's bad when

1198
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: you stock pile in succession stoppage defeats against elite guys,

1199
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: because it's pretty damning to show you that you may

1200
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: no longer be elite. He's got something to figure out here, Luke,

1201
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna it could be a long road back, given

1202
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: how competitive this bandon weight division is. But uh uh,

1203
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: this one, I think, even more than the other ones,

1204
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: showed you that that maybe something deeper than you know,

1205
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: strategy or or stam. When I hear his off, I'm

1206
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: not sure what it is, Luke.

1207
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what it is either. And folks

1208
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: who will be like, oh, what about Yusada? His physique

1209
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: hasn't changed a bit since coming over from World Series

1210
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: of Fighting. If anything. The guy looks more shredded and

1211
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: he changed camps. You know, I don't know what the

1212
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: answer is either of BC only I think he does

1213
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: and it's people around him. But it seems to me

1214
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: like taking a bit of a break dialing back competition.

1215
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, since he got to UFC. Let's be honest. That

1216
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: split decision to a sunstyle, which by the way, he

1217
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: avenged by first round submission, was a flip the coin.

1218
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: He took a split decision over Dodson. He stopped Aljoe

1219
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: in the first round with a knee. He knocked out

1220
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy Rivera. I mean, look, he proved that he's a monster.

1221
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: Luke in right, and something happened along the way. I

1222
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: don't know if he's not evolving anymore. I don't know

1223
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: what the issue is, but he seems to be coming

1224
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: back too quick. And when you pop stockpile big losses

1225
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: in a short time, it really messes with your standing

1226
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: and your financial bottom line.

1227
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking some time dialing back the competition, figuring out

1228
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: another approach, not changing everything that he does, but you know,

1229
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: retooling some things. I think we'll get him to a

1230
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: different place, all right. So those are our top five topics.

1231
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: Let's now get to where you get to ask us

1232
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: questions on Instagram. It's time now for dms from dogs

1233
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: yew all right, so I've not seen these, Let's pull

1234
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: them up, all right? Uh from at Liam we in

1235
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: Birge Live. No excuse me, Liam Weinberg Live.

1236
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: That's not the one I see on the screen, Luke.

1237
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's the one they sent me, motherfucker. So I

1238
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: don't know.

1239
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 2: Jay, Can we bring you in here real quick? Jay?

1240
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: That is from last week? That is the happening.

1241
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: Normally we don't bring in a guy just to ship

1242
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: on him. Jay, But what what's going on today today

1243
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: is an S show.

1244
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: What's happening here today is a little bit of an

1245
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: S show, as you put it. Those are the questions

1246
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: that were in there for me, though this one, this

1247
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: one is not on me, so.

1248
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: Typical. Jays a great leader, So it's never his fault.

1249
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know, I'm not throwing anyone else under

1250
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 3: the bus. I'm just saying it ain't me.

1251
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen, trump Berg, it's your fault today, guy,

1252
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: You understand that.

1253
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, some of those other things those were yeah,

1254
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: definitely my fault.

1255
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna read the questions that were sent

1256
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: to me from the producers, So I just jump back

1257
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: in and we'll see what we got.

1258
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: Let's see if we go back to gay from these

1259
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: technical issues.

1260
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: That's by the way, did you realize didn't realize there's

1261
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: a senator named Ron Johnson. He's like Trump's biggest supporter.

1262
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: He's also like a major conspiracy theorist.

1263
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: I did. That's the problem. When we try to find

1264
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: Ron Johnson. Everything comes up with that guy.

1265
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: It's like thanking for the who raped j but you

1266
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: know different, Jesus, and you're getting mad at me about

1267
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: the titty fucking comment.

1268
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: Good, I mean financially, Luca necessarily, physic.

1269
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: Physically not necessarily yes, all right, well well well you know,

1270
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: well there's the clown car that happens behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: They'll try to read these out. BC. All right, again,

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Speaker 1: not the right fucking question on the screen at all,

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: but you know who cares about getting the details right.

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Speaker 1: As an m M A fan, primarily, the Canelo Smith

1275
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: fight was so enjoyable to watch, and I believe a

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: big factor was because of the lack of clinching in

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Speaker 1: the fight. BC, what is your opinion on clinching and

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Speaker 1: boxing and why it happens in some fights all the

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Speaker 1: time and others not at all.

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Speaker 2: Uh, well, it depends on you know, styles make fights

1281
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: the old cliche, but it's true there are fighters who

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: use clinching for their advantage. Why do people hey John

1283
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: Ruiz when he was heavyweight champion twenty years ago because

1284
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: he made the entire fight one punch and clinch second

1285
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: half of Vladimir klinch Go's career when you know, we

1286
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,959
Speaker 2: always suspected that the chin could be suspect he would

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00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: land the big jab then clinch you. It can slow

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Speaker 2: the clock down. It can slow down a fighter who's

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Speaker 2: quicker than you. I mean, Evander Holyfield used the hit

1290
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: and clinch method on Mike Tyson, you know, perfectly, although

1291
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: obviously he let his hands go a little bit more

1292
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: on the inside and he led with that ball dome

1293
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: to set up those cuts. But yes, Luke, it can

1294
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: be overdone. You need a referee who is not only

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Speaker 2: willing to get in there physically and separate them, but

1296
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Speaker 2: one with balls to not let the fighters dictate that.

1297
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: To clean it up a little bit. I do think

1298
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: there is some strategy and it's certainly in boxing, it's

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: part of the game if you get hurt. In fact,

1300
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: we criticize the guys who get hurt but don't know

1301
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: when to clinch, don't know when to buy themselves some time.

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: Remember when Floyd Mayweather got rocked by Shane Mosley in

1303
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: that second round, he grabbed onto Shane's arm and didn't

1304
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: let go of it. I mean, it's part of the game.

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00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: I like it when it's not there of it, when

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01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: a great fight happens and you go, holy crap, I

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: don't even remember there being a clinch. You just have

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01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: to have a referee that can prevent guys from abusing it.

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01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: But I do agree if you're an outsider looking in

1310
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Speaker 2: on boxing, which thankfully, Luke, we have for all the

1311
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: people that hate MK talking about boxing, it should be

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Speaker 2: a separate show. I need, I need you know.

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Speaker 1: We do have a separate show.

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Speaker 2: It's just about MMA. It's called the Luke Thomas Sunday

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Speaker 2: Digest Live Chat, and it really it's great. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's great. But I will tell you that I am

1317
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: happy that a lot of MMA fans are watching boxing

1318
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: because we're getting a hyped up for the big fights.

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: And no clinching is a is a better view lucal

1320
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Speaker 2: for all, but there is a strategic need.

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Speaker 1: For it at times offensively and defensively. You can hang

1322
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: on when you get rocked, you can punch and use

1323
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: it to smother. There's all kinds of ways where it

1324
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: can be beneficial to you. In this case, you wouldn't

1325
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: imagine a scenario where Canelo would want would want to

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: do it. You would imagine one where Smith will want

1327
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: to do it. But also if you can get inside

1328
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: control and create frames, it's gonna be hard for them

1329
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: to do that, you can break it off. So also

1330
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: clinch breaking any part of the skill, depending on one's perspective.

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: In fact, clintch breaking was how, among many other things,

1332
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: how Holly Holm knocked out Ronda Rousi Rossi tried to,

1333
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, get her arm or a collar tie, and

1334
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: you can see her kind of fighting on the inside,

1335
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: pushed her off headkicked her and that was all she wrote,

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: all right from at empty booble. Popularity notwithstanding popularity, notwithstanding

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: which set of brothers had the better career Diaz or

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: pettis popularity not an issue.

1339
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Speaker 2: I think on the basis of the UFC championship alone,

1340
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: it has to be Pettis. Well, I mean, Sergio has

1341
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 2: been good but not great, right, good, pretty good, pretty

1342
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: damn good at times, pretty damn good, not great, right,

1343
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: But I mean the diaz Is have also been mountaintop

1344
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: shit shows. You know, early Diaz brother early Nick was great, right. Uh,

1345
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: Connor version of Nate was was great. But but I get, Okay,

1346
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: we're not talking about popularity. We're not talk about pay

1347
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: per view buyso.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But here's the thing. You can say popularity doesn't matter,

1349
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: but the paychecks still do. And of course that's a

1350
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: function of popularity, but it still kind of matters because

1351
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: part of the reason they take bouts the way they

1352
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: do is for maximum financial effect. They've been in bigger fights,

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Speaker 1: both of them.

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Speaker 2: All right, But how much I think this is the debate.

1355
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Speaker 2: How much are we gonna overvalue Pettis winning the UFC Championship?

1356
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: Did he have any title defenses? Gilbert Melndez okay, so

1357
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: a title win in one defense? Did he ever win

1358
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Speaker 2: the w e C belt or was that or did

1359
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Speaker 2: Henderson have it?

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Speaker 1: I think he did win that. I'll double check what

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01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: I believe.

1362
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: He because I was gonna say how much are we

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01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: overvaluing it when Nick has been the Strikeforce champion in

1364
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: Nate while having never held a belt, losing his one

1365
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: title opportunity. I mean, look, when you go up there

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Speaker 2: and fight Connor McGregor, who is right there at the

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Speaker 2: top of the pound for pound rankings, and you beat him,

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Speaker 2: I know there was a weight disparity, but still it's

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Speaker 2: pretty damn big. So it's not that Nate is devoid

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Speaker 2: of big wins. If Pettis has the we C rain

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Speaker 2: and a UFC rerain, then I think, you, well.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He took titles big. Pettis took titles

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: off of Benson twice. So he beat him at WC

1374
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: fifty three, the last WEC event, and that's when he

1375
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: won the championship. But then he goes to UFC and

1376
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: loses to Claig Weeda immediately right first fight after he

1377
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: beats Benson in twenty thirteen for the UFC title, and

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: then he submitted via guillotine show Gilbert Melndez. That was

1379
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: that was a totally legitimate win. That was six years ago,

1380
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: and then he lost three in a row after that,

1381
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, the belts matter but I don't.

1382
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're asking the totality of the two.

1383
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: Both of them have been in bigger fights, and I

1384
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: think both of them, you know, collectively, have bigger wins.

1385
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. But I would go Diaz Anthony has

1386
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: a better career in terms of up like the highest

1387
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: thing he reached, but the like Sergio has done well

1388
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: to your point, but he hasn't won anything special.

1389
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I was over I'm overvaluing that. That

1390
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: the Look, let's break it down Nick versus Anthony, who

1391
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: has had the better non popularity or money? Who has

1392
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: had the more distinguished career? I guess it's a push

1393
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: in some ways, right, I mean Nick Diaz was great

1394
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: in the beginning, So.

1395
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Speaker 1: Nicks wins here. He's got a lot of good ones.

1396
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: But to the era, Nate definitely beat Sergio by far.

1397
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 2: So Yeah, the DZ Brothers, even if even if Nick

1398
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: is is dead, even with Anthony, they win this debate.

1399
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I'm dead wrong.

1400
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Like what is Nick's

1401
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: best win?

1402
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: Is it?

1403
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: Bj penn UFC one thirty seven? Yeah?

1404
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the oh god, he turned his face into Hamburger. Yeah,

1405
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: that was a great fight.

1406
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: Because these other wins, I mean, these are his other wins, right,

1407
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: Joshnir who was good at the time, because that was

1408
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, the original of the Dentist, and

1409
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: then in the LADEXC, Thomas Denny, Frank Shamrock, Scott Smith,

1410
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: Maria Zaromskis Hayatosakarai kJ, Paul Daly, and he's got Paul Daily.

1411
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: Those were his last two wins. Was Paul Day and

1412
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: bj Penn. Anthony's got better wins than that.

1413
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Anthony did beat wonder Boy. I mean, let's

1414
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: give him that credit, right, Yep.

1415
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: I went up a way class and beat his ass.

1416
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: It's true, yep.

1417
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: And he hurt Tony in that fight. That was good. See,

1418
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: that was a fun ass fight. People never talked about

1419
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 2: that fight, Fergus, that was fun.

1420
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Right, It's a good point, you know what, man, I

1421
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I think Pettis is probably

1422
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: your dominant performer in terms of just elite wins than

1423
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: the other ones. But the two Diaz brothers together have

1424
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: been in really big fight.

1425
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: What about Nate? What are we missing on Nate here?

1426
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: What he's got the Connor McGregor win. What else has

1427
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: he got? Let's sort of let's pull Nate's resume up.

1428
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: I think he beat Cowboy, right, he'd beat He beat

1429
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: the fuck out of Cowboy. He was slapping him around,

1430
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: giving him the finger. Uh, Connor McGregor and Michael Johnson.

1431
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: He beat Anthony. Oh you know what, he beat Anthony Pedtis.

1432
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: I forgot about that at UFC two forty one. Uh,

1433
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: Gray Maynor, Jim Miller, Donald Serni, Takany Gomey, Marcus Davis,

1434
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: Rory Markham, Melvin Glaar, Josh Neer, Kurt Pellergreno, Alvin Robinson,

1435
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: Junior A Sonsau and then Manny Gamburian. It's it's it's

1436
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: a great question. It's a great question.

1437
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: It really is Anthony top heavy in that family. I mean,

1438
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: Sergio has got a big win in UFC though he's

1439
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: got one big one, right, Yeah.

1440
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: I think let's move it along if we can't here

1441
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: to at Dilio Underscore two, who's more likely to win

1442
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: a title in twenty twenty one? Jay the Producer, wonder

1443
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: Boy or Jose Aldo. They didn't actually ask about Jay

1444
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: the Producer. I'm just doing that to throw him under

1445
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: the bus. Wonder Boy or Jose.

1446
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: Jose.

1447
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Jose as well. I mean he

1448
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he can. He's like the likeliest guy

1449
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: to beat the very top ones, but I think he

1450
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: gets closer to them.

1451
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: We're wrestling heavy at the top of welter. Wait, I

1452
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: think Covington and U and Ousman and probably even Gilbert

1453
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: Burns I'll beat him, right.

1454
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: Uh, Gilbert Burns is the interesting one because you know,

1455
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Wonder Boys got good takedown defense.

1456
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, But I don't know Usman will get

1457
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: him down though.

1458
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean yes, Usman will put him up against the

1459
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: cage and then just pin him until he finds a

1460
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: way to get him to wrestle to his hands, and

1461
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, they just work that process. I don't know

1462
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: if Gilbert's quite there yet. Covington I think can do

1463
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: that as well. So yeah, I like those two guys

1464
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: to beat. I'm not saying Gilbert can't do it. I

1465
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: just I want to see how Gilbert looks against Kamaru first,

1466
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: and then I guess we'll, you know, we'll make a

1467
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,439
Speaker 1: choice from.

1468
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: There because again then again, look, although came up decidedly short,

1469
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: against Yan. Do you like all those chances any better?

1470
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,959
Speaker 2: Should al Jo or san Haagan have the belt?

1471
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Al Jo or san Hagen? San Hagan know al Jo,

1472
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know again styles mcfights, and I know al

1473
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Jo just ran over Corey Sanhagen, but I still think

1474
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: san Haagan's ability to adapt on the feet and show

1475
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: all those looks. It's like a really modern game that

1476
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: I think could give Aldo some problems. Al Jo can

1477
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: fight long, but I don't think he could retreat to

1478
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: the ground against Aldo. It'd be kind of an issue

1479
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: format because al those takedown defence is fucking dynamite, right,

1480
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: So so it'd be on the feet and he and

1481
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: Aljoe can stick and move. Man, he's really good at that.

1482
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: But it would be a little bit closer because of

1483
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: the way the styles work, right.

1484
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 2: That's the way I'll look at it real quick. To

1485
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: close on that Sergio Pettis conversation, here's his big wins,

1486
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: John Moraga, Brandon Marino, Joseph, Benavidez, Tyson Nam and then

1487
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: in beltor he beat Ben Dejas and uh, some guy

1488
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: you never heard of.

1489
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: So that's pretty fucking good man.

1490
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: It's not bad.

1491
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: It's not bad.

1492
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's the Pettist brothers. I don't know's that's

1493
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: a it's a really great question. That's a pretty good line. Yeah,

1494
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: from at from at M Porter four forty. Hey, Luke,

1495
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty one the start of a new decade?

1496
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: You bitches know that it is because zero is not

1497
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: a year. There is no year zero. But but listen, listen,

1498
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: you want to do the Gregorian calendar thing and start

1499
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: your year at you know, or your decade, I should

1500
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: say at one, and I don't know, at ninety and

1501
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: then go to you know, ninety nine, and then you

1502
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 1: want to start it at you know, two thousand to

1503
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, then ten twenty nineteen. You bitches

1504
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: can do that if you want. But all of us

1505
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: who know that you're.

1506
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: Two thousand, the year two thousand was not only not

1507
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 2: part of the nineteen nineties, it's a whole new freaking century.

1508
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: Bro Okay, So don't give me this, BS, don't give

1509
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: me this. Well, William and Mary with our sun dials

1510
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: while we played quarters in our frat, no can get

1511
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: get out of here right yere.

1512
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: There was no year zero, So by definition, there would

1513
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 1: have to be a new decade.

1514
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 2: But okay, are you going to bury the lead on

1515
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: your damn tattoo? Luke?

1516
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, there's also nominal versus what's the other

1517
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: kind of way? So nominally, what are the two kinds

1518
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: of hold on? There's two kinds of ways to measure this.

1519
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: There's the nominal way and then there's the I forget

1520
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: in any.

1521
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: Case and no dominie.

1522
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on now now you know now I'm doing

1523
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 1: this nominal.

1524
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 2: Hey, look, nobody cares. Can you just show your tattoo already?

1525
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: Please?

1526
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what is this a matter?

1527
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: Well, like, I can't really do it on? I mean, yes,

1528
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: hold on, let me pull it up here. You can't

1529
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: really see it a little bit? Yes, wait there, yes.

1530
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: So that's fine artistry. That's fine artistry.

1531
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: Of it.

1532
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 2: And I was impressed even though you wrote don't worry

1533
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: if it's not for you, it's okay. Well I didn't

1534
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: even get to shoot on it or like it. You're

1535
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 2: already like, I know you're not gonna like it.

1536
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, just because people who don't know anything about tattoos

1537
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: think that they do and then offer opinions that are stupid.

1538
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: But you did not know.

1539
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: About tattoos, Luke, Okay, yeah, I say you fall between

1540
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: the scale of the back of Kevin Lee's head and

1541
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: Darren Elkins's danger tats somewhere in the middle.

1542
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: There, Louke, Okay, thank you. By the way, the difference

1543
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: is nominal versus ordinal decade, so it can be both

1544
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: of us being right. But definitely there is no such

1545
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 1: thing as the year zero, So all of you idiots

1546
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: who think that there is can suck on these baby

1547
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: please testicles all right, And last, but not least, we

1548
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: see the question that matters the most at heavy dot Falcon.

1549
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: What's the best kind of fry? Why? Wedge, steak, something else?

1550
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: No special situation, occasional location. Give me one fry to

1551
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: rule them all.

1552
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: Arby's curly fries are the best fry that ever happened.

1553
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: You fucking ape. Why don't you go fingerpaint with your

1554
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: your kitten cocoa?

1555
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: Really, Luke, really, I mean they're they're freaking phenomenal.

1556
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: Okay, who the eats at Arby's besides raccoons? I mean,

1557
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: what are you? Dude?

1558
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,440
Speaker 2: Beef and child beef and cheddar for days bro for decline,

1559
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? First of all? Steak fries suck.

1560
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 2: Waffle fries are awful?

1561
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: Are you out of your mind? I'm with you on

1562
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: the sneak fries. They're fat and stupid. Fine waffle fries.

1563
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: Waffle fries are a little tray for dipping. They're wonderful.

1564
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 2: I love really good skinny. Regular fries are obviously awesome

1565
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: if they're perfectly done, not over salted. Perfect Uh sweet

1566
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: potato or fans fan freaking tastic.

1567
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: There's We're gonna ask if sweet potato qualified for this

1568
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: conversation because.

1569
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: But you've never had a sweet potato fry that had

1570
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: like sturdiness. They're always soggy. You gotta eat them with

1571
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: a fork.

1572
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: Well that's because I think that a lot of paces

1573
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: make them shitty. But but and you're right, more often

1574
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: than not they do come that way. But you can

1575
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: make them yourself at home, and they're just f Yeah.

1576
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: At home, at home, I've made them sturdy when they're

1577
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: a little bit thicker. But if you try to make

1578
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: a sweet potato fry like you make normal fries, they

1579
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: are always soggier and flimsier.

1580
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: I think they leave them in too long. I mean,

1581
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's a potato like what's the difference.

1582
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 2: First of all, I don't understand how fries are the

1583
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: worst three heated food ever, Like basically that in fish

1584
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: you have to eat it live and hot and ready.

1585
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: But do you count like the new evolution of like

1586
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: disco fries and gravy on it and you know, poutine

1587
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 2: and all that.

1588
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: No, I think it's just I mean I think it's more. No, No,

1589
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: that's more of a dish. I think we're talking about

1590
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: just the fry itself. I'm gonna go waffle fry Jay,

1591
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: what is your number one fry is? Its are correct

1592
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: from Donks slide.

1593
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 3: I am with you here. Waffle fries. Although the way

1594
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 3: that you guys hate on steak fries is inappropriate.

1595
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 1: They are very good. Steak fries are for you know,

1596
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: people who had classes down by the boiler room in

1597
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: high school. That's what those are.

1598
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: Four fries are lame, lame.

1599
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfucker. You go to Arby's. I mean there are

1600
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: three people that go to Arby's.

1601
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna guarantee. I'm gonna guarantee right now.

1602
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: This is a typical look overreaction. If I ask you

1603
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: the last time you ate Arby's you'll probably like nineteen

1604
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: eighty six. Yet you're a freaking expert. I know it, Luke,

1605
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 2: was the last time you had Arby's curly fries?

1606
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: Eighty six might be pushing it, I'm not sure. Now.

1607
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: My brother like you, There you go, There you go.

1608
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for being an expert on something.

1609
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: You hold on.

1610
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: Hold on.

1611
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: My brother like you, also goes to Arby's like an

1612
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: absolute trash panda, and he likes their curly fries as well.

1613
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: So I have been around them within the last two years.

1614
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're fine. I'm not telling you that the

1615
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: curly fries are bad, but we're talking about one fry

1616
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: to rule them all, and you have the temerity to

1617
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: overrule Chick fil a waffle fries. Go fuck yourself? Who

1618
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: are you? Osama bin Lot, Luke.

1619
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 2: That's like saying vanilla is your favorite ice cream flavor.

1620
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 2: Get out of here with this, okay, Luke.

1621
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: It is my favorite flavor. That's actually a true thing.

1622
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: I love scream too, Jay too.

1623
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, although there was a cookie do in there, it

1624
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 3: doesn't make.

1625
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: It better, Hey, Jay. In addition to cookie dough, can

1626
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: you throw in slides from dms from donks No, I

1627
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: don't have any Oh interesting, that's fun, all right, we'll

1628
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: be see. It's a ship show, which means we have

1629
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: to get to the official shit show part of the show.

1630
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: Take it away, good.

1631
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: Sir, Hey, I got a great batch this week of

1632
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: not the curly fries, but these videos we scholar the globe. Luke,

1633
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? High lows in between good,

1634
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly in combat sports? As have

1635
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 2: you seen this ship? Let's start off with designed boxing

1636
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 2: on Saturday? Luke? Was there a better entrance in twenty

1637
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: twenty than Canelo coming into fire and a mariachi band

1638
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 2: playing the final countdown by Europe?

1639
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: Luke, come on, bro, how much COVID was spread in

1640
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: that audience? I mean, I mean that show should have

1641
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: been sponsored by then the coronavirus. The coronavirus just had

1642
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: a field day with that.

1643
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: That's a big dome though. Look it's a big dome.

1644
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: There's only fifteen thousand people in there, you know.

1645
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is that what happened? Yeah?

1646
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: All right? Well, hey were you in on Canelo's celebration dance? Look,

1647
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: most things Canelo does is pretty cool. His tattoos are

1648
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 2: getting a lot out of control, But do you like

1649
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 2: this golf celebration dance?

1650
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: Is it a golf celebration or like a almost like

1651
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: a baseball bat? One too. Also, he holds a golf

1652
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 1: club like a like an oar when you're a canoeing

1653
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: well boxing gloves on.

1654
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: First of all, I doubt he plays cricket, Luke, So

1655
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: I think.

1656
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 3: That that's a hockey slap shot.

1657
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: Oh, that might be a slap shot on.

1658
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: It.

1659
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: You can't put your gloves together like this for like

1660
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: a golf club.

1661
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,879
Speaker 2: You know what what is lame about Nello? His slogan,

1662
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: no boxing, no life. That's pretty lame, right. You see

1663
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: that on his sweatshirts and hats all the time.

1664
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 3: Uh no, if that's a golf swing, this dude's never.

1665
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: Mean listen, no boxing, no life just has no value.

1666
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: That's not nearly as bad when we had to tolerate

1667
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: RG three here, when he would have all of his

1668
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: stupid fucking catchphrases no pressure, no diamonds and shit like that,

1669
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: I'd be like RG three, listen, you have a robotic

1670
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: leg and your twenty three, your career is over. Get

1671
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: the fuck out of my face.

1672
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 2: Wow wow, So would you say Jason Campbell was a

1673
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:33,879
Speaker 2: better Redskins quarterback.

1674
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: No, well, uh uh, he was better over the long haul.

1675
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: But RG three's twenty twelve season was or twenty thirteen

1676
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: whatever it was, was pretty fucking magical.

1677
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Canelo undercard. Did you

1678
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 2: see this heavyweight about Julian Fernandez called on Frank Sanchez.

1679
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,480
Speaker 2: He's like here, hit me on the chin, and Sanchez

1680
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: sends this guy to hell via through the ropes. Luke,

1681
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: did you see how dangerous this was? He falls back

1682
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: on the on the photographer podium. Look if that thing

1683
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 2: wasn't there, this guy, this guy might die. I mean

1684
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: he might be taking back of the skull to the ground.

1685
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: You see this.

1686
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: You know what, if you ask someone to kick your ass,

1687
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: can't be surprised when they succeed. Can't be mad at him.

1688
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: Jake slow mo replay of this. Look at this replay, bah,

1689
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: I mean, shout out the Sanchez. He spars with Canelo.

1690
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: He's a he's a good looking, unbeaten heavyweight and he

1691
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,440
Speaker 2: sent this guy Fernandez.

1692
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, those were goodbye.

1693
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: Nobody helping him out, nobody there to to to grab onto.

1694
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: Wow, that's me. After my fifth dump of the day.

1695
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've You're already had four today. You're on a

1696
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 2: good run. All right, let's go to a Showtime boxing.

1697
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: Look.

1698
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we did not get the full Giron Boots Ennis

1699
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: experience in the welterweight comine event when this head butt

1700
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: with Chris vanierd and after Ennis was piecing him up

1701
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: a bit, brought an end to the fight. Luke, we're

1702
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the scoring in the main event, but

1703
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: would you say of the three fights, we had one

1704
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: controversy of a scoring and two cuts ending what looked

1705
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: to be fights that were on their way to be

1706
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 2: pretty good. That's curse, brother, I know.

1707
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: And Jeron Ennis is a guy I've got my eye

1708
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: on too, and I know Showtime does and PBC. Obviously,

1709
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: I was so upset about this. This was the fight, honestly,

1710
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: like even more than the Camelo fight. This was the

1711
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: one I was looking forward to the most this weekend,

1712
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: and uh, what are you gonna do? Man? We had

1713
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: a clash of heads in the UFC as well, Like, uh,

1714
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: that's what happened with the main event for wonder Boy

1715
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: and Jeff Neil, and I'm sure it affected both of

1716
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: them pretty badly.

1717
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: It was a bad gash. I guess we don't have

1718
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 2: a good look at it here, but it was a

1719
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: really bad gash on Van here to tell on his head.

1720
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: And also, by the way, the opener had a really

1721
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: bad cut on Paiano's head and they said the doctor

1722
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: said he could see the nerves inside of it. Luke, Wow, Wow,

1723
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: all right, Jesus, Hey, let's hey. Speaking of Showtime, I

1724
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: really liked that video package they did, really celebrating how

1725
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 2: hard it is to put on fights, whether you're boxing

1726
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: or MMA. In twenty twenty and in the fights in

1727
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: the Mohican Dome there and Brian Custer put out this

1728
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: picture of the team on Jay. Can we go to

1729
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: it please?

1730
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: There we go.

1731
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to the team, Luke. It hasn't been easy,

1732
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: whether we're talking UFC or anybody, to put on these fights.

1733
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: And me, I've been in a few different bubbles this year,

1734
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 2: and you know, you're basically a slave to the hotel room.

1735
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: It's not easy to get this going. I did want

1736
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: to tip of the cap to our friends there at

1737
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: Showtime who got together for a picture.

1738
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: We can shout him out left to right right, So

1739
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: it's Felix DeJesus then it's Al Bernstein, Classy, Jimmy Lennon Jr.

1740
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: Brian Custer, the guy kneeling, Steven Espinosa behind him, that's

1741
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 1: what Rafa Marquez right. Then we have Mara Ronaldo and

1742
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: then you got mister Farhood.

1743
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 2: Shout out great people love them, they love them, love

1744
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: the family here. And I really like Chris Deblasio's scarf

1745
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: during that video package as they broke down. How hard

1746
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 2: it is to put on the fights. Thank you showtime

1747
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: for patting my bank Account's been a great year for

1748
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: you guys, despite everything, and good to see this closing out, Luke.

1749
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: Let's go over to the Zone's Friday Night Sorry Friday

1750
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: Night Triple G card. Did you see on the under

1751
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 2: card this guy Rashad Mati. He fell down on a slip, Luke,

1752
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 2: and then he does a kipop?

1753
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: What is this?

1754
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: W w E sehn michaels not bad? Right?

1755
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: Who does he think he is? Michelle Pereira?

1756
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, I don't know if you happened to see

1757
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 2: his ring entrance, did you? Because this guy Rashad Mati

1758
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: calls himself the Albanian Batman, although it says Albanian bear

1759
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: on the video screen there, Luke, he not only came

1760
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: out dressed as the Albanian Batman, he came out to

1761
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 2: the backstreet boys. I want it that way your thoughts.

1762
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: At least he's not in the trench coat mafia. I

1763
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.

1764
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: Tell me why.

1765
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1766
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: Well, look, if you're gonna come out and k act

1767
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: like that much of an a hole, you better win

1768
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: the fight. Let's let's advance the slide here. He did

1769
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,440
Speaker 2: get a little bit of a nice stoppage.

1770
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: Win.

1771
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: Look at this spaz out to force the ending.

1772
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: Here, Luke, switch the stance both sides. Yeah, nice, not bad?

1773
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: All right? Not bad? All right? Hey, let's go over

1774
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: to the UFC in Las Vegas, deep undercard fight here.

1775
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on flyweight Jimmy Flick getting the

1776
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: flying triangle?

1777
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: Buddy, you hold onto something in the MMA today, like

1778
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: any kind of extended limb, for any amount of time

1779
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: without doing something with it right away, bad shit's gonna

1780
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: happen to you. I mean, the presence of mind for

1781
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: Flick to do this is incredible, but we've seen it

1782
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: over and over again. Guys will catch kicks, hold it

1783
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: and then get set on fire. Afterwards, whether it's walking

1784
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: Buckley spinning you know, two touch back kick or this

1785
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: one where he just jumps triangle, but hell of a triangle,

1786
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: hell of a moment. Don't be holding onto shit, folks,

1787
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: unless you're doing something with it.

1788
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: You gotta know when to hold them, Luke, So Cody

1789
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: dirtin unfortunately tapping out here in first in the first

1790
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: round by the tyler's brother. Yeah, yeah, exactly, great name.

1791
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 2: Jimmy Flick loved that, all right, Hey, welter, wait, Michelleretta

1792
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: Paneda didn't give us the theatrics during the fight. But Luke,

1793
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: don't check out the way.

1794
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: And what is this, Luke, bro he's so athletic, it's absurd,

1795
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: it's absurd.

1796
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Do this crap during this Yes, do that unless you

1797
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: can turn that into a kick. Don't do that during

1798
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: a fight.

1799
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: All right? He did that one backwards donkey kick. Did

1800
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: you see that?

1801
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: I did see that?

1802
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that was the only fun part about that fight.

1803
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: Luke, you would break your back trying this.

1804
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: I would not be able to get anywhere close to that.

1805
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: Even in my prime. I could have not gotten and

1806
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: O we're close. Do you know how fucking strong you

1807
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: have to be to do that. That is insane.

1808
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you do.

1809
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 2: All right. Hey, look we've got a late contender for

1810
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 2: a knockout of the Year in twenty twenty and it

1811
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: comes from this drunken cheerleader Hawk.

1812
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: This is Mike Winkle, John and Holly Holm after every win.

1813
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: You ever seen that they do this after every win?

1814
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh? This innocent bystander caught in the crossfire?

1815
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: Wow? Can you please point out that everyone in this

1816
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: video is white?

1817
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, Jay's asking me to note that you'll

1818
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: notice that no one in this video is Chinese or

1819
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: African American or wearing a mask for that, yeah, wearing

1820
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 1: a mask. It's it's my fellow white people who love

1821
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 1: to hurt each other drunk or sober.

1822
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of drunken jumps, Luke, I got a trio

1823
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: of crowd favorites here on the golf course. Check out

1824
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: this beca.

1825
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: You know what you watch you play the Spider Man

1826
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,440
Speaker 1: game too much times, you know, you start having delusions

1827
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: of grandeur.

1828
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 2: You end up in hell. Yep, that's how it goes. Uh, Luke,

1829
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 2: let's check out this guy. I'm so drunk. How about

1830
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: I jump through this glass table for your entertainment. What

1831
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 2: is this the Bill's mafia? Have we seen that? I

1832
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of people that do this. Oh Jesus,

1833
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: he'll be shitting glass for a year after that, Luke.

1834
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: Wow again, once again, I'm noting at this party BC.

1835
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: There is a clear absence of African Americans from it.

1836
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if this must be kind of some kind

1837
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: of coincidence.

1838
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: Well, we got one more bad jump for you, and

1839
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: it comes from two white guys, Luke, who've been drinking.

1840
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: Here we go. I have guessed that they're trying to

1841
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: jump onto a moving boat. Oh they have those tips.

1842
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: Dude, they're gonna have those scars like the manatees have

1843
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: fro getting run over by the fucking blades of the

1844
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: motor boat.

1845
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: They almost touched the tip of that boat, just for

1846
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: a second. Look, that would have been the ending right there. Wow,

1847
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: can you look.

1848
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: I just want to take a moment to look at

1849
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: this shit. You had a bunch of white guys, God

1850
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: bless them. I'm one of them, two who are like,

1851
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: you know what, let's drink cores light and jump off

1852
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: a bridge into a moving boat. What could go wrong?

1853
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: Ah? Well, they just barely missed touching tips, But luckily,

1854
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: Loup Luke, a lot of people touch tips successfully this week,

1855
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: including a trio of NBA stars. Here's Channing Fry, Richard

1856
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Kevin Love posing for a try tip photo.

1857
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 3: You in on this?

1858
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: No, you know, I'm not Jacob. I don't like listen.

1859
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: I tolerate it because it's your thing. I don't like

1860
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: the tip to tip bit.

1861
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: I think it's weird. Okay, are they touching tips or

1862
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: are they doing like an Illuminati sign?

1863
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: What is that? I'm not entire I'm not entirely certain triangle.

1864
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1865
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a vagine they're making with their hands. Okay, Luke,

1866
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 2: let's go to this Sky Sports soccer presenter Bella Shah

1867
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 2: going tip to tip with a footballer on the screen.

1868
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

1869
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: Is uh, I'm not even sure who that is? Who

1870
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: with the lay mass jersey? Uh? Someone from Aston V

1871
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: and Burnley No wonder two ship teams. You know what?

1872
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes funny things happen on airBC.

1873
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, even Hall of famers are getting into the

1874
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: tip on tip phenomenon. Here's Kazushi Suku Rabbi going double

1875
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: tip on tip with some young Asian man.

1876
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Isn't that Equalhisa Minowa?

1877
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: Probably?

1878
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: By the way, isn't this the same pose that Galvant

1879
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: and Style Bender did?

1880
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's becoming a thing, Luke.

1881
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: I won't.

1882
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to say we started this because we didn't.

1883
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: But it's becoming a thing, all right.

1884
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: Listen, you shake hands through an open fly. You ain't

1885
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: shit to me, that is true, Luke.

1886
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: Let's go to the subway. I'm happy to report there's

1887
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 2: good COVID protocols being done here, a lot of masks. Unfortunately,

1888
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna remove it to kiss a rat.

1889
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: Dude, What in the fuck are we looking at?

1890
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: So?

1891
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Is it his pet rat? Or did he find it

1892
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: on the subway? That's what I need to know, because

1893
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: either way, it's creepy as all hell. But but there's

1894
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 2: a there's levels to this, Luke.

1895
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: Okay, is this guy like the crocodile hunter of you know,

1896
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: diseased rodents or something?

1897
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully he gets killed by one of these, Luke,

1898
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 2: and then I have to say, no, dead, wrong, he

1899
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: actually got killed by a sting ray.

1900
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: Dude.

1901
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: He's dead, Okay, I'm sorry, all right, I loved him too.

1902
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: He's dead. Okay, Bendy a little sneaky though luckily we

1903
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: caught up the We caught up on that. All right, Luke,

1904
01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 2: let's get out of this subway car. Check out this

1905
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: piece of art that the Klitchko brothers have going on

1906
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: at this Kiev art museum. Would you put this frame

1907
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: up in your house.

1908
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, that's cool, that's super cool. I love it.

1909
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: It's you know, again, the problem with fight art is

1910
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: that it's always there's no subtlety to it whatsoever. You know,

1911
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: this is not a very subtle piece, BC. This is

1912
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: a very eye capturing piece. But I will say it's

1913
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: still pretty cool.

1914
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: This is the kind of piece you need an empty

1915
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: room with nothing else in it, but this right pretty much?

1916
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that, all.

1917
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: Right, Vladimir joining vitally in the Hall of Fame in

1918
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: the class of twenty twenty one. Nothing to see on

1919
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: this next video, Luke. Just a airplane landing on a

1920
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: highway in Minnesota and cash into it.

1921
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Yep, that sounds about right. That's the most interesting thing

1922
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: that is Listen, that's the most interesting thing that's ever

1923
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 1: happened in the state of Minnesota.

1924
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's a good point. Wow, all right, it's

1925
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: tea bag of the week time. Luke. Let's check out

1926
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 2: this little stunt here. I got a motorcycle. Do you

1927
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: have jump big stelts? Yeah, let's do it.

1928
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: For the record.

1929
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,879
Speaker 2: Both Caucasian. Okay, moving on, Luke.

1930
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Dude, so it's so off brand you would just never

1931
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: expect it from those people.

1932
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of Caucasians, I was looking up some research for

1933
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: knockouts of the Year and boxing and fights of the year.

1934
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: Came across this October slugfest between uber drivers. Look, look, look,

1935
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 2: loser has to report to the to the night shift

1936
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:29,520
Speaker 2: at the slaughterhouse.

1937
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: Luke, this is great, dude. These are not Uber drivers.

1938
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: These are door dash guys for sure.

1939
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh love it, love it all right, A couple more

1940
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: for you, Luke. You know the best way to break

1941
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 2: up a drunken chick fight at the pool? How about

1942
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: some sweet chin music? Check out SHAWNA. Michael's here. Wow, oho, bro.

1943
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: That's how you do a fucking you know, deep little

1944
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: sidekick there. Oh yeah, and then they go right to

1945
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: the hair blahkah.

1946
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: Why do they always have to pull the damn here?

1947
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 2: Why can't they fight clean? Luke?

1948
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why I should see illegal

1949
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: in MMA. Dude, it's a very effective tactic, you know, yeah.

1950
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about a twister? Is that legal in MMA?

1951
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't think that skin manipulation is in that way,

1952
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: but I could be wrong.

1953
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 2: All right, I got one more for you, Luke. You

1954
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: want to see a bad idea? How about driving a

1955
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: bicycle off the roof?

1956
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: You're ready for it? Is she white? Yes? Oh yes,

1957
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: yes she is?

1958
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: Look a here we go? I mean, how does she

1959
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: think it was gonna add? You're either gonna get a

1960
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 2: hysterectomy accidentally or a lobotomy, your choice, right, I.

1961
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Mean she had five feet of runway and the bike

1962
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: is three feet, Like, look at that dog? What I mean?

1963
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Just what are the physics there where you think you're

1964
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: gonna launch off this thing like evil canevil and then

1965
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: stick the landing like there's no.

1966
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 2: The instagram have no other way this could have on

1967
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: the instrum. Grand account is at why females live longer,

1968
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: but not that female?

1969
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Luke?

1970
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right.

1971
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: I would to watch this one more time. Hang on,

1972
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: hang on, just just just play this through. Look at

1973
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: this ship. The first the tire just goes right over

1974
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: blop and look at her reach a handout like she

1975
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: got knocked out.

1976
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, thank you. I mean that's that's the

1977
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: best ship I got this week. I hope you saw it.

1978
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, very good, very good? All right, time

1979
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: for odds and NSBC. What do you have for odds

1980
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: and ends?

1981
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 2: So you're always against these old white guy boxing judges, Luke,

1982
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: they screwed up on Saturday night. They did. I rewatched

1983
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 2: it just to make sure. It was unfortunate that the

1984
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 2: Showtime Boxing triple header kind of felt cursed to good

1985
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 2: fight two fights just as they're getting good ending with

1986
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 2: with cuts that forced no decisions. Uh well, I guess

1987
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 2: the first fight, Uh it forced the decision. But the

1988
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: third fight, the main event, Raymond Gabayo going in there

1989
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 2: for that interim WBAO against equal late replacement Emmanuel Rodriguez. Luke.

1990
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,879
Speaker 2: I watched this. I thought it was a great performance

1991
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 2: from Rodriguez. He was efficient. He was a counter puncher.

1992
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: Gabio is typically aggressive, but Rodriguez was piecing them up

1993
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: so accurately with counter shots that Gabayo was really setting

1994
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,600
Speaker 2: himself up for one shot at a time. Yes, he

1995
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 2: was the busier more active guy, but he landed less

1996
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: punches overall. He was only throwing one at a time.

1997
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Rodriguez was countering cleanly. Our own Raul Marquez on the

1998
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: broadcast had it twelve rounds to zero for Rodriguez. Look,

1999
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: I tried to give Gabayo as many rounds as I

2000
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: possibly could, Luke, even though some of these rounds were close,

2001
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: I just felt like the craft of Emmanuel Rodriguez was clear.

2002
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 2: I gave eight rounds to Rodriguez, and I'm really trying

2003
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 2: to be generous giving Gabayo four. Yet the scores in

2004
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: the end Luke won eighteen one ten for Rodriguez, which

2005
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: seemed to make sense. That's ten rounds to two and

2006
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 2: then one sixteen, one, twelve and leave one fifteen to

2007
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: one thirteen for Goobayo. Wow, we've been here before.

2008
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: He keep defending those judges, keep defending them.

2009
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 2: And unfortunately there are two guys I really like, Don

2010
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Trella and John McKay, both really great guys. But I

2011
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: didn't see it. I didn't see it. In the end,

2012
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: I tried my best, I didn't see it. They had

2013
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: it eight to four, seven to five for Gabayo. I

2014
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 2: thought this was a really nice performance for Manuel Rodriguez

2015
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: coming off of that his only career loss to Naiowa

2016
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 2: a new A. Everybody gets sent to hell by a

2017
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: new A, it seems, except for Donair, and both these

2018
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 2: guys replaced Donair in this fight. Nice hair night for

2019
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 2: Manny Rodriguez. A little weird, but I liked it. And

2020
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 2: he took this. He took this shaft, all right, he

2021
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 2: got the shaft. You get the shaft a lot in boxing, Luke,

2022
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 2: it happens, all.

2023
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: Right, you certainly do. Did you want to bring up

2024
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: your Dezonne thing as well?

2025
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Look, this kind of went a little under

2026
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 2: the radar, But any of you may have noticed that

2027
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 2: if you tried to watch the Canelo fight this weekend,

2028
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 2: it was available on traditional pay per view for the

2029
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: first time for a Dizonne fight. And here's the kicker.

2030
01:32:58,040 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 2: It was sixty nine to ninety nine. And what they

2031
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 2: were offering in that deal was four months of Dezone

2032
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: on top of that for free or part of the deal,

2033
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 2: which would set you up to where if you wanted

2034
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 2: to renew, you would renew in time for May, when

2035
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: Canelo's probably coming back. And this is most interesting, Luke,

2036
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 2: because The biggest issue, it seemed with the zone in

2037
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: how they would fit in and potentially play nice in

2038
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: this boxing market. Is that Remember they were trying to

2039
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: kill pay per view. That was the whole hook. That

2040
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 2: was their tagline, We are going to kill pay per view.

2041
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 2: Who wants to pay eighty one hundred buckser a fight?

2042
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Just pay eight ninety nine or whatever the original price

2043
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: was per month and you can get Canelo and Triple

2044
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: G and Anthony Joshua and all that. But the problem was,

2045
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 2: how were they going to do a double network fight

2046
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 2: with Showtime or Fox or ESPN. It didn't seem possible.

2047
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 2: Now it looks like it's possible with this new pay

2048
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 2: per view option. Maybe that's the best scenario, Luke for

2049
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,560
Speaker 2: their longevity. But it was interesting that they sort of

2050
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: slid it in there under the radar without a major announcement.

2051
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 2: Maybe this leads Canelo to want to fight with them more.

2052
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what do you have any specific take

2053
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 2: on it?

2054
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: They you're right. I remember the commercials with Bruce Buffer

2055
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: and Canelo and I had Laoya and Studio when it

2056
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 1: first came out, and they were all like, this is

2057
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: the end of pay per view. This is the end

2058
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 1: of PA per view, paper view dying, blah blah blah

2059
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And it has been quite resilient

2060
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: and so now they have to find a way to

2061
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: make peace with it. And the way in which they're

2062
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: doing it, I think is I don't know if this

2063
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: is the best way, but experimenting with it again pre

2064
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 1: may v Singo de Mayo. They had to do it.

2065
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: They had to do it. They had to find us

2066
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: some kind of hook to get them to go. It'll

2067
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: be curious to see what the pay per view numbers

2068
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: look like a for a fight. They came together kind

2069
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: of short, you know, at short notice, and also, you know,

2070
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: didn't have a huge name in Callum Smith, least Stateside

2071
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: obviously in the UK, sure he's a lot bigger, but

2072
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: Stateside not a very big name. And again you're splitting

2073
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: the audience. We don't know how much between de Zone

2074
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: who are I mean, I'm already a Zone subscriber, so

2075
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: I did not pay for the pay per view, So

2076
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: what will the numbers look like given that some of

2077
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: that is being siphoned off? No, it's some interesting questions.

2078
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: But I do think the more they do this way

2079
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: where both sides can win. It's actually better for boxing

2080
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: because it's not. It just removes not for everybody, but

2081
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: for the you know, the top tier stars where they

2082
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: can move mountains a little bit. It gives us a

2083
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 1: little bit of flexibility to make some things happen. So

2084
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: I'm actually all in favor of it, provided everyone can

2085
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: still get what they want out of it in the end.

2086
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 2: What I don't know is if you were still able

2087
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 2: to get the Canelo fight simply by signing up for

2088
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: one month of his own. I don't know if that

2089
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 2: option was removed to try to force people to buy

2090
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: the pay per view, Luke. But either way, it's better

2091
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: for boxing in the long run if to zone, even

2092
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: though I love the idea of killing pay per view right,

2093
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 2: if you're a boxing fan, still, if you want guys

2094
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 2: on that side of the line, right, the Mattroum Sport guys,

2095
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: the Golden Boy guys, to be able to fight the

2096
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 2: PBC guys, the top rank guys in a giant pay

2097
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 2: per view, you gotta have a way to do it right.

2098
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 2: It can't be well unless you come to my channel,

2099
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: we can't fight right. We're sick of this. We're sick

2100
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 2: of this crap. So if this is the way to

2101
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: do that, and you get four months of the channel

2102
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 2: with it, maybe that's the best option. I do kind

2103
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: of applaud this. If that's the way we're.

2104
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: Going with this, fair enough? All right? For my odds

2105
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: and ends, I have some you know, not news exactly.

2106
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of known, but it's worth

2107
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: reminding everyone. It is apparent that Anthony Pettis has fought

2108
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: out his UFC contract. Now, why might that be interesting? Well,

2109
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 1: his brother already went to Bellatore and has had some

2110
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: good success. Why not necessarily if you're Anthony Pettis, do

2111
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: that because you're at the stage of your career where

2112
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna beat a list guys in the UFC.

2113
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: You could maybe win a title over there. They might

2114
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: love to have you because he's still a good fighter.

2115
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: But more importantly, you know, Anthony Pettis is kind of

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Speaker 1: a blood and guts fighter. He's entertaining one as well.

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Speaker 1: A move to Belatore right now, while he still has

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Speaker 1: a little bit of life left in him and some

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Speaker 1: ability still, that might not be the worst call. And

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Speaker 1: maybe UFC keeps them. I don't know, but let's pay

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Speaker 1: attention to those roster cuts. Now. This would not be

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Speaker 1: a cut exactly where we're just you know, releasing you

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Speaker 1: like we did you all Romero when you have three

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Speaker 1: fights left, but it would be one where, you know,

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Speaker 1: do we really want to resign the guy for the

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Speaker 1: next stage of his career. That might be one where

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Speaker 1: Belator could really benefit. I actually wouldn't mind the signing,

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Speaker 1: depending on, you know, on how it all worked out.

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Speaker 1: He'd be a good fit for them. Bec would you agree,

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Speaker 1: he really would.

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be better off for his career to go,

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Speaker 2: because he said after the victory, which wasn't a great victory.

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Speaker 2: There were good moments, there were bad moments, but he

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Speaker 2: said afterwards, look, I want to make one last cut

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Speaker 2: to one fifty five and go for the title. I

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Speaker 2: don't see it. I think that that went over WonderBoy,

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Speaker 2: in which I know was at welterweight. But I know

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Speaker 2: that win in which he lost every second of the

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Speaker 2: fight but yet exploded at the end and won it dramatically.

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Speaker 2: I think that might be the best of what he

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Speaker 2: has left.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: Look, something happened to him along the way right from

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Speaker 2: the from the Wheaties box to the you know in

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Speaker 2: the title to falling Downhill and splitting wins and losses

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Speaker 2: for basically the last X amount of years. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what it is workout. I don't know what it is,

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Speaker 2: but I think that he'll have a better chance at

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Speaker 2: closing out his career in a great way going to

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Speaker 2: Bellator and look if he can go to Beltur and

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to win a championship there, and

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Speaker 2: then he could be a guy who won in WEC

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Speaker 2: UFCN Belator. I mean, that's a nice way to end

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Speaker 2: out your run. And it might be one of those

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Speaker 2: cuts for UFC where you where you go, Okay, what

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01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 2: are we gonna get about him? A couple b sides.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was on the preliminary card this time around.

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Speaker 2: It might be time for them to just go good

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Speaker 2: luck to you, brother, right, So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: And and it's it's one of those situations where can

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Speaker 1: work out for everybody. UFC got the best of them,

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Speaker 1: Bellator can get what's left of him, which is still

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Speaker 1: something usable, and he might be able to get something

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Speaker 1: out of them, which is you know, ending his career

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Speaker 1: with dud you know, getting a w e C and

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Speaker 1: a bellator and a UFC belt. That is that is

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Speaker 1: fucking impressive today. Eddie Avarez, you know with his bellator,

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Speaker 1: I think he had a dream title. He hated bodog UFC.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a he's been the belt collector, but

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Speaker 1: you had you had what if what what he can do?

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Speaker 1: That'd be something kind of impressive.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how Cyborg is a great belt collector too,

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Speaker 2: Chris Cyborg, she has.

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Speaker 1: Done that as well. I've heard of her. I've heard

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Speaker 1: she's good.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pissant. So can we get this out out

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Speaker 2: of here?

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Speaker 1: Please? Please? Can we? Yeah? See lessing on this. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to have a UFC event until January sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: How are we gonna how are we gonna get through

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Speaker 1: all this with fun?

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Speaker 2: With breaking news and fun and maybe some great guests.

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Speaker 2: So here's the deal, Luke. Wednesday is December twenty third.

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Speaker 2: We will have a regular show. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about, dude. The great thing about you

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Speaker 2: and I, Luke, we may not always get along. I

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01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: might not be always there when you call, right, but

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01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 2: I am always on time for this show is we

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01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: could talk about anything Okay, Wednesday, we're gonna do a show.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pre record a special bonus Christmas edition of

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Speaker 2: Your Questions that will air on Friday. And believe me,

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Speaker 2: we have some fun coming with our episode one hundred

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Speaker 2: for right after the New Year that we're looking to

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01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 2: book some big names and get But yeah, for a

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01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: little bit, Luke, big time fights are gonna take a

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Speaker 2: back seat. But let's not forget two things. Connor Dustin

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Speaker 2: is coming and there's gonna be no shortage of craft

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Speaker 2: to talk about in the next month for that, and

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Speaker 2: also Floyd Jake Paul for Better or Worse is right

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01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 2: behind it. So yeah, Luke, I mean, look, we can

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Speaker 2: go back to some homework assignments. You know, I might

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Speaker 2: piss my pants right now, which would be a first

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Speaker 2: on this show.

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Speaker 1: So you know. Also, I think Ryan Garcia fights on

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Speaker 1: the ninth right.

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Speaker 2: January second. I think it's like January second, something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so there are there will be some boxing.

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01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Good thing, we cover boxing on the show. B see

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Speaker 1: good time people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you guys want from us?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 2: Do submission underground? Hey, isn't rumble by the way, fighting

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Speaker 2: Ryan batter and submission Underground coming up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't watch that, so I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, uh news notes very quickly. If you want

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Speaker 1: to follow us, I don't know if they'll have the

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Speaker 1: we are on Twitter, and for Morning Combat everything is

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Speaker 1: If youel like it, you can keep it. Not go

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Speaker 1: fuck yourself and.

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Speaker 2: Then, last but least, buy some of that that escalated quickly.

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Speaker 1: Buy some of that. Buy some of that merch. You

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Speaker 1: can go to Showtime excuse me store dot show dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can get some of that mk stuff for you

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Speaker 1: and yours, your brethren out there. It'll be a good thing,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right? Uh you see anything else before

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Speaker 1: we go?

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01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: Uh? No, maybe watch that comedy Store doc series. You

2237
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: love stand up comedy. Look, it's right up your ally.

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01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: They got everybody on that show.

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01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: It's great. I will watch it. Well, you've been recommending it.

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Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I'll put it on the list

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Speaker 1: all right for my friend Brian Campbell, who is also

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Speaker 1: from CBS Sports. Everyone at Malca, everyone at showtime. I'm

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. Until next time, May all of your games

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Speaker 1: be loyal.