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Speaker 1: the show Casey in Portland, Oregon. Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good, ros even better because I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: Ah, I'm honored. You know. I love Portland and I
Speaker 1: also I mean I just talked to the Unsettling Toys
Speaker 1: crew and there's some creepy there's some creepy stuff and
Speaker 1: there's some weirdos in Portland and that's why I love.
Speaker 2: It so much, That's why I came here.
Speaker 1: Well, you hit me up about a haunted lingerie store,
Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed. Can we just hear this story.
Speaker 3: Yes, So this happened in San Diego in the early
Speaker 3: two thousands. I was working in a lingerie store that
Speaker 3: will not be named, and everything seemed totally normal, as
Speaker 3: it always does in these stories. And I had been
Speaker 3: there for a very short period of time. I was
Speaker 3: one of the managers, so I would come into the
Speaker 3: store early in the morning to do scheduling or you know,
Speaker 3: different stuff in the office, and I noticed that while
Speaker 3: I would be in there, I would always hear the
Speaker 3: sound of hangers moving, like on the racks, and every
Speaker 3: time I would wonder, like, oh my gosh, did somebody
Speaker 3: come into the store. So I'd always go check. The
Speaker 3: door would be locked. And it got to the point
Speaker 3: where it was happening so frequently that I was even checking,
Speaker 3: you know, our the air conditioning vents on? Is the
Speaker 3: escalator on? Like what is making these hangers make this noise?
Speaker 3: It bugged me, but you know, I would go check
Speaker 3: every time and there would be no reason for it,
Speaker 3: so I would go back to work.
Speaker 2: That happened, you know, for like.
Speaker 3: A month or so, and then I started hearing the
Speaker 3: sound of people running through the store when nobody was
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: I hate a running ghost. I didn't.
Speaker 2: There's no need for them to be fast.
Speaker 1: Now, first of all, float Okay, that's the whole point
Speaker 1: of being a ghost, you know, that's one of the perks.
Speaker 1: Float as fast as you want. Don't be running. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. I don't want to experience it. Wait, so,
Speaker 1: at this point, when you're starting to hear these things,
Speaker 1: was there any chitter chatter with your coworkers about it
Speaker 1: being haunted?
Speaker 2: Not yet.
Speaker 3: No, we did get there, but at this point I
Speaker 3: didn't think it was anything paranormal.
Speaker 2: I wasn't, you know, a non believer, but I was.
Speaker 2: I was skeptical.
Speaker 3: And also it's a mall, Like it's the least haunted
Speaker 3: or atmospheric feeling place I could imagine.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, have you ever been in a mall when
Speaker 1: no one's there?
Speaker 2: Oh, plenty of times, and it's it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yes, But also so the side note, I keep thinking
Speaker 1: about malls because malls sadly are kind of going away,
Speaker 1: and what are we going to do with these big
Speaker 1: abandon There's actually a couple of accounts. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's like Instagram accounts I've seen online of like
Speaker 1: abandoned malls, and it's like so creepy to see, like
Speaker 1: an old anti Anne's kind of decaying, and there's just
Speaker 1: gonna be so much more of that. There will be
Speaker 1: mall goes, for sure.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't run like this one did, because
Speaker 2: I hated it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a mallwalker, did it? Wait? Was it
Speaker 1: accompanied by like the of like a track suit or like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the like a windbreaker.
Speaker 3: No, No, it honestly sounded like like a kid running,
Speaker 3: like small but heavy footprints. I hate that footsteps, and
Speaker 3: it would The store was, you know, pretty open, but
Speaker 3: when it got to the back, there was a big
Speaker 3: L shaped hallway where the dressing rooms were, and you know,
Speaker 3: in the middle of the L was the office and
Speaker 3: it was closed by a keypad door. So I would
Speaker 3: be in there hearing up and down the fitting room
Speaker 3: hallway like running, running, running, go and love nobody's there,
Speaker 3: and I would hear the hangers. So then the next
Speaker 3: thing that started happening was the light bulbs. So this
Speaker 3: was a very well lit store, and we had track lighting,
Speaker 3: and the light bulbs that were up there were supposed
Speaker 3: to last allegedly like a year or more and everybody
Speaker 3: started noticing like they were burning out honestly a couple
Speaker 3: times a week, and we would be up there and
Speaker 3: changing them. And it got to the point where I
Speaker 3: actually had six different people come out. I had the
Speaker 3: property manager, I had the electric company. I had a
Speaker 3: couple of different repair people just to come out and
Speaker 3: see if there was damage, because the lights should not
Speaker 3: have been doing this. And they found no damage. They
Speaker 3: replaced part of it just to you know, make sure
Speaker 3: that it was fine. And even after all of that,
Speaker 3: we just ended up having to order a ton ton
Speaker 3: of light bulbs because they were constantly burning out. So
Speaker 3: this was around the time where we were getting ready
Speaker 3: for holiday, which is a big deal in retail, and
Speaker 3: at this point had been promoted to the manager. So
Speaker 3: I was getting together the meeting for pre holiday, you know,
Speaker 3: all six of us, all the employees are in the
Speaker 3: store and somebody mentions the ghost and I was like what,
Speaker 3: and they start talking. I had never seen and throughout
Speaker 3: the course of my story, I will never see anything.
Speaker 3: But my employees started talking and they had seen a
Speaker 3: guy who would be in the store. They would go
Speaker 3: to greet him and he would be gone, and they
Speaker 3: jokingly started calling him Harry, and then we all started
Speaker 3: sort of sharing experiences, and as it turned out, everybody
Speaker 3: was having them, and this was the point where things
Speaker 3: really started to escalate. You know, you hear oh, you
Speaker 3: acknowledge it, you pay attention to it, you feed it energy,
Speaker 3: and it gets worse. And in my experience at least,
Speaker 3: I can say that was absolutely true. So we would
Speaker 3: still have you know, the hangers, the sounds of running,
Speaker 3: the lights burning out, And then what started to happen
Speaker 3: was we would hear this disembodied, completely genderless voice say
Speaker 3: things like hey or ma'am, like things a customer would
Speaker 3: say to get our attention, and we'd look and there'd
Speaker 3: be no one there. And it happened, you know, pretty regularly,
Speaker 3: like enough that we would joke about it that I
Speaker 3: did hear so that and then the next sort of
Speaker 3: big escalation that happened was things would start disappearing.
Speaker 2: So we had a cash.
Speaker 3: Wrap in the middle of the store, and we would
Speaker 3: have things on it like pens and you know, our
Speaker 3: daily log and like things that we didn't move around
Speaker 3: the store, and we would find them placed in really
Speaker 3: weird places around the store, like in backstock drawers in
Speaker 3: a locked fitting room. We would look at our cameras
Speaker 3: because I would I was like this, somebody has to
Speaker 3: be moving this, like somebody is fucking with me or
Speaker 3: you know, customers doing this, and we wouldn't catch it.
Speaker 3: So one of my employees at this point said, I
Speaker 3: would like to do a clearing in the store. I
Speaker 3: would like to burn some sage and just see, like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people coming through the mall, maybe
Speaker 3: there's somebody brought something nasty. And I was like, sure,
Speaker 3: let's you know, let's go for it. So we did
Speaker 3: that one night after closing. She we we avoided the
Speaker 3: smoke detectors as much as possible by having fans blow,
Speaker 3: and she staged the store and said, you know, whatever.
Speaker 2: Is here, we need you to go.
Speaker 3: And whatever was there obviously didn't like the stage because
Speaker 3: it did not leave.
Speaker 2: Ah, it got welled.
Speaker 1: Hang on. Okay, So this to me sounds like what
Speaker 1: we call in the biz an intelligent haunting. You know,
Speaker 1: it certainly seems to have reactions and emotions and can
Speaker 1: you know, interact with you so this so do we
Speaker 1: think that there was more than one spirit or is it?
Speaker 1: Do you think it was all just Harry at this point.
Speaker 3: Well, so here's what I think. I think that there
Speaker 3: were three different I don't know if I want to
Speaker 3: call them spirits, because I don't know what they were.
Speaker 3: I will just say like three different feel like presences.
Speaker 3: One was a very like motion based thing, that's where
Speaker 3: we would hear the running the hangars, and that one
Speaker 3: really only happened in the mornings. The second one was
Speaker 3: also the same spot where I'm pretty sure my employees
Speaker 3: said Harry appeared. It was this back corner of the store,
Speaker 3: and it was also absolutely freezing back there.
Speaker 2: There was no air conditioning vent.
Speaker 3: This is San Diego, it is not a cold place,
Speaker 3: and this back corner of the store was always freezing.
Speaker 3: Customers would even comment like can you turn the air off?
Speaker 3: And there was nothing there, So that to me like
Speaker 3: that that was where Harry appeared. There was some coldness there.
Speaker 3: And then the third thing, which is what started to
Speaker 3: enter at this time. I don't know if it was intelligent.
Speaker 3: All I know is that it it to this day,
Speaker 3: I'm now a forty year old woman. Was one of
Speaker 3: the scariest things I've ever felt.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 3: I know, I feel kind of silly saying this. Because
Speaker 3: all these stories, you know, have so much similarity. But
Speaker 3: I just want to express like, at this time, we
Speaker 3: didn't think it was bad. We just thought like, something
Speaker 3: just feels kind of stuck here, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it just felt like there's something repetitive and a.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about like this. The thing that I
Speaker 1: keep thinking is the Harry, like the customer that's like,
Speaker 1: excuse me and then disappears Like that's so I want
Speaker 1: to know more about that. I want to know like
Speaker 1: what the world is like for that that presence, you know,
Speaker 1: does it realize that it's in a lingerie's store?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Is he? Just like why are all these women taking
Speaker 2: their shirts off? What is going on? There's underwearing here.
Speaker 2: I'm so confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, so it starts getting spooky, let's hear
Speaker 1: let's hear it.
Speaker 3: So after she did the clearing, we started to have
Speaker 3: a couple of things happen at the same time. We
Speaker 3: would have these fixtures and I'm not going to bore
Speaker 3: you by explaining it, but these fixtures lock into the
Speaker 3: wall in a very specific way so that they don't
Speaker 3: fall off and like create liability and the laundry company
Speaker 3: gets sued. They can hold up to like two hundred pounds,
Speaker 3: and you had to go through a series of motions
Speaker 3: to get them to lock into the wall. These things
Speaker 3: started popping off the wall. There was no water damage,
Speaker 3: the walls weren't flooding again, not a cold place where
Speaker 3: like the building swells and you know, shrinks like.
Speaker 2: There's nothing happening. And then we.
Speaker 3: Started to get complaints from customers about feeling watched. And
Speaker 3: one of the ones that stands out was I was
Speaker 3: standing at the cash registre with one of my employees
Speaker 3: and there was a woman shopping with her boyfriend. He
Speaker 3: was probably like three feet away from her. There's nobody
Speaker 3: else in the store, and she's browsing. He's standing more
Speaker 3: back by us, talking about ordering something, and I see
Speaker 3: her like swing her hand behind her, like to hit somebody,
Speaker 3: and she goes stop it, and she turns around and
Speaker 3: she looks very alarmed, and she goes, who was just
Speaker 3: touching me? And there was nobody touching her. So then
Speaker 3: the next big thing that happened was I was alone
Speaker 3: in the store with one other employee. We had just
Speaker 3: opened and we had received our shipment and I was
Speaker 3: going into the back room to process it. So in
Speaker 3: order to get back there, you had to put a
Speaker 3: code in the door, and it beaped really loudly, like
Speaker 3: you could hear it all through the store. My employees
Speaker 3: helping a customer. I go back into the stock room.
Speaker 3: There are probably twenty boxes. I stopped to use the
Speaker 3: restroom before I put them away. I go in do
Speaker 3: my business. When I go to open the door, it
Speaker 3: won't open. And I'm not talking like it's locked. I'm
Speaker 3: talking like I can't push the door open, and I'm pushing, pushing, pushing.
Speaker 3: Finally I push it open and all of the shipment
Speaker 3: boxes were in front of the door.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: Yes, we didn't have a camera in our back room,
Speaker 3: and that day I ordered one. I was like, listen,
Speaker 3: I told my manager, you know, I think somebody might
Speaker 3: be coming back here. I just want to double check.
Speaker 3: When really I'm like, this shit's haunted and I want
Speaker 3: to see what's happening. Yeah, so these boxes are in
Speaker 3: front of the door. The door never beeped. I was terrified.
Speaker 3: I ran out back onto the floor. My employee is
Speaker 3: still helping the same guy, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: did anybody come back and she looks at me like,
Speaker 3: are you dumb? Like no, I go back into the
Speaker 3: stock room and I said, so, whatever's here, you're here,
Speaker 3: I'm here. I have to be here. I don't want
Speaker 3: you to scare me anymore. You know, you want to
Speaker 3: empower yourself and own the space and do all those things.
Speaker 2: And that didn't work.
Speaker 3: Everything continued to happen, and at that point my employees
Speaker 3: were like, can we hire a paranormal to come out here.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say their name because they did
Speaker 3: nothing wrong. They were just kind of ineffective and weird.
Speaker 3: But we hired a local paranormal group. We told them
Speaker 3: what was going on, and they came out. They didn't
Speaker 3: find anything. They you know, I I don't want to
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak badly of them, because I'm
Speaker 3: sure that they did some great stuff, but I don't
Speaker 3: think they believed us.
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, six seven women in their early
Speaker 3: twenties and a laundry store, like it's such a weird story.
Speaker 2: But all of us were very sincere.
Speaker 3: Our stories to this day like still line up, and
Speaker 3: they did some EVPs. Nothing really happened, but let me
Speaker 3: tell you this. If if we had thought that the
Speaker 3: staging and me talking to whatever was in that store
Speaker 3: pissed it off, it was nothing compared to how it escalated.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, this is like the.
Speaker 2: Last chapter of this story.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is truly like a book. This is amazing.
Speaker 1: What are you kidding me? This is what we live for.
Speaker 3: So this was this was what led me to quit.
Speaker 3: So we now had customers noticing things. We had the
Speaker 3: lights burning out, we had the sound of hangers, we
Speaker 3: had running all of these things. One night, we're all
Speaker 3: in the store doing inventory, and for anybody who hasn't
Speaker 3: worked in retail, inventory is dreaded. You stay until like
Speaker 3: three in the morning, scanning every single thing in the store,
Speaker 3: and it sucks. We were in the back of this
Speaker 3: hallway where the dressing rooms were, and the very back
Speaker 3: of the hallway was an emergency exit door. None of
Speaker 3: us had gone through it. We all assumed it went
Speaker 3: to the parking lot. But it's late at night, so
Speaker 3: all of the alarms are turned off, and one of
Speaker 3: my coworkers like bent over or tripped or something and
Speaker 3: fell into the exit door and opened it. And it
Speaker 3: was a room It was not included in the blueprint
Speaker 3: of the store or in our square footage, which I
Speaker 3: had to know about because as the store manager you
Speaker 3: have to know those things. And it was full of
Speaker 3: like fixtures and this really weird smell. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: a dark room. It was, you know, not super big,
Speaker 3: like maybe the size of you know, like an average
Speaker 3: like public restroom sort of size. It had a closet,
Speaker 3: had a bunch of old fixtures that nobody had been
Speaker 3: in this room, and ages was covered in dust.
Speaker 1: What kind of smell are we talking?
Speaker 3: I have smelled a dead body before, and it's the
Speaker 3: same smell. At that time, I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's mice. It's probably just a mouse. It's a mouse, right,
Speaker 3: there's a dead mouse in here. We'll get some It's fine.
Speaker 3: Look we have all this extra storage space. A couple
Speaker 3: of days later after we found this room, I was
Speaker 3: alone in the store first thing in the morning and
Speaker 3: doing my paperwork. I hear the hangers. I go out
Speaker 3: to look, nothing's there. As I'm walking back, I notice
Speaker 3: in the hallway with the fitting rooms, the middle one's
Speaker 3: light had burnt out. And in these dressing rooms the
Speaker 3: lights had like these you know, meant to look vintage
Speaker 3: fancy glass globes over them. So I grab a light bulb,
Speaker 3: I unscrew the globe and I hear a voice in
Speaker 3: my ear go like that noise you make when you're
Speaker 3: worried someone's going to drop something. Oh no, and I
Speaker 3: start shaking. I change the light bulb, I put the
Speaker 3: globe back on. As I step out of the fitting room,
Speaker 3: the door to it slams shut so hard that the
Speaker 3: hinges broke.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: At that same time, there was at the end of
Speaker 3: the fitting room hallway like a supply closet. I hear
Speaker 3: things and it crash, and I run out of the store.
Speaker 3: As I do so, the woman who managed the store
Speaker 3: next to me runs out of her store and she
Speaker 3: looks at me and she goes, what happened. I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean, what happened to you? And she goes,
Speaker 3: I heard this huge crash. I thought there was an earthquake.
Speaker 3: And I have my back to my store and she's
Speaker 3: facing me, and I see her face that old cliche
Speaker 3: like it looked like the blood drained from her face,
Speaker 3: but she really was just like, oh my god. And
Speaker 3: she points, which if you're ever facing somebody don't point
Speaker 3: to what's behind them, Oh I know, do I turn
Speaker 3: around and one of the bra towers we had their
Speaker 3: shape like an X, like foe arms, and they have
Speaker 3: these magnetd signs on top. And in order to get
Speaker 3: these things on there, it's like an act of God
Speaker 3: to get them.
Speaker 2: On and off.
Speaker 3: This sign is going back and forth like a flag
Speaker 3: in the wind, back and completely back and forth. I
Speaker 3: sat my ass on that mall bench and I did
Speaker 3: not move until my next employee came in and I
Speaker 3: quit the next day.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 1: Oh so did you keep in touch with the people
Speaker 1: that work there?
Speaker 3: I did, and all of them quit pretty soon after.
Speaker 3: I actually ended up going to work in another store
Speaker 3: in the same mall, and that sort was fine. Nothing
Speaker 3: nothing ever happened there. I tried to do research. There
Speaker 3: was no history on the property. It was not like
Speaker 3: built over graves there, you know, it had been built
Speaker 3: in the seventies. Like, there's nothing, never found out anything.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of an unsatisfying conclusion. As far as
Speaker 3: I know. The activity continued after I left. Know what
Speaker 3: happened after the people I knew stopped working there. I
Speaker 3: just I truly wanted to put it out of my
Speaker 3: mind because I was sort of gaslighting myself, saying, you
Speaker 3: made all this up, You're crazy, this didn't happen. It's
Speaker 3: just a store. But you know, the more distance I
Speaker 3: got from it, it did happen. And I did everything
Speaker 3: possible to try and find reasonable explanations and solutions for it,
Speaker 3: and there never there never were any.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like whoever will work in that building
Speaker 1: after you? It sounds like it's something you can't avoid,
Speaker 1: like it's it's it seems like there's so much activity
Speaker 1: that it's like someone would have had to do something
Speaker 1: about it. You would think, Well.
Speaker 3: I hope, I mean, I hope that it that it stopped.
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to have to deal with that
Speaker 3: in their place of business. It it was a nice
Speaker 3: place to work, it was a nice company to work for.
Speaker 3: Nobody should have to be harassed by customers living or
Speaker 3: dead in their place of business. And you know, I
Speaker 3: hope genuinely that it was just I don't know how
Speaker 3: any of this works, but if it was just a
Speaker 3: collection of our energy, we rubbed the other side of
Speaker 3: the veil the wrong way, you know, whatever it was,
Speaker 3: I hope it stopped after we left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, this is a great story. Casey.
Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to think of, like what we need
Speaker 1: to call this story the there's got to be a
Speaker 1: good pot.
Speaker 2: Put the booze and boobs.
Speaker 1: I don't know, boo the booze and boom, Yeah, boob
Speaker 1: the case of the Case of the Spooky Boobs, the
Speaker 1: double D demon from the other side. I've been ghosted too.
Speaker 1: Hello Brae in California. How are you, Hi, Rad, I'm good.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm so good? I was reading this email. You work
Speaker 1: at a haunted museum.
Speaker 4: Yes, I work at the Walt Disney Family Museum. It's
Speaker 4: in the Presidio, which is just like Hella haunted. You know.
Speaker 4: It's the Presidio in San Francisco. So it's like right
Speaker 4: by the Golden Gate Bridge. It's a national park now,
Speaker 4: but it used to.
Speaker 6: Be like in Civil War times, like old eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 6: And there's even like some Spanish army stuff that was
Speaker 6: based there in like.
Speaker 4: The seventeen hundred, so it has a lot of history.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, So this museum, the Walt Disney Family Museum,
Speaker 1: it's not is it haunted by the Disney's.
Speaker 6: No, definitely not, there's no you know, Walt Disney's frozen
Speaker 6: head that's not there.
Speaker 4: He was cremated, so and that's out in La So No,
Speaker 4: that's what people think.
Speaker 1: They think it's there.
Speaker 6: We get a lot of questions about yeah, about that.
Speaker 6: There's like some chairs, people like is that is that
Speaker 6: a coffin? And it's like, no, it's it's just a
Speaker 6: chair for you to sit down.
Speaker 1: Well, because I feel like people also think that at Disneyland,
Speaker 1: Walt Disney is frozen somewhere in there, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those prevailing myths.
Speaker 6: But no, no haunted Walt Disney walking around. My vibe
Speaker 6: is that it's definitely some old like Civil war people
Speaker 6: who are just really enjoying having a Walt Disney museum,
Speaker 6: you know where they used to live.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean people, I've heard people tell me
Speaker 1: that Disneyland. I mean, I a thousand percent can see
Speaker 1: Disneyland being haunted.
Speaker 4: But I've heard stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard so many stories, and it's like, just
Speaker 1: imagine all the people that it could that could be
Speaker 1: haunting that place, even if there's like a theory of
Speaker 1: that was my favorite place and now I'm dead and
Speaker 1: like now I want to go to my favorite happy place,
Speaker 1: the happiest place on earth. Maybe that's the thing too.
Speaker 1: So if that's the if that's a thing that happens,
Speaker 1: there's probably so many ghosts. But I've also heard people say,
Speaker 1: like security footage is caught Walt Disney walking around the
Speaker 1: park at night, Like I don't know, maybe Walt Disney
Speaker 1: is there, who knows.
Speaker 4: Who knows, but I know a lot of people.
Speaker 6: They had to create some special technology for the haunted
Speaker 6: mansion because so many people were pouring ashes in the
Speaker 6: run and that became like, you know, a huge problem obviously.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's probably some ghosts who just love taking
Speaker 6: a good ride in Disneyland.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure. Okay, So no Disney goes at the museum,
Speaker 1: but it is a haunted museum, so what's going on
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's definitely like all of the employees there
Speaker 6: who've been there for like, you know, ten years or so,
Speaker 6: everyone kind of has a story. But most recently we
Speaker 6: just have a lot of interactives and we get a
Speaker 6: lot of activity, like weird activity and.
Speaker 4: And all that.
Speaker 6: But most recently with one of our one of our employees.
Speaker 6: Was walking through our galleries and there's this thing called
Speaker 6: a movieola, and it's an interactive it's not super technical.
Speaker 6: There's just like a screen and there's like a little
Speaker 6: wheel and you can spin the wheel and it slips
Speaker 6: through the different phases of animation for snow white. And
Speaker 6: so if you get the wheel spinning really quickly, it'll
Speaker 6: just like keep going and kind of do that slow role.
Speaker 6: But it's not like mechanical, so there's not like a
Speaker 6: you know, something mechanics on the inside that will like
Speaker 6: stop it or make it go or anything like that.
Speaker 6: And so one of my coworkers was walking through the
Speaker 6: galleries and was in this gallery and saw the wheel
Speaker 6: just like spinning out of control and there's nobody around,
Speaker 6: and so he got his phone out. We actually had
Speaker 6: a video and he started video taping it and the
Speaker 6: wheel is just going crazy and then he walks up
Speaker 6: to it and without touching it, the wheel just stops
Speaker 6: like somebody just like held it. And like in the video,
Speaker 6: it totally looks like like somebody really just stopped it,
Speaker 6: and having played with it, it's like it doesn't just
Speaker 6: stuff like that on its own.
Speaker 4: So he just was like, well, this is kind of weird,
Speaker 4: but I'm just assuming this is a prank. Like someone came,
Speaker 4: you know, and spanned.
Speaker 6: The wheel and like ran off like a coworker. And
Speaker 6: so he actually went down to our security office and
Speaker 6: because they have the videotapes and all of that, and
Speaker 6: he was like, let's let's play this back, like I
Speaker 6: really just want to know, like what what happened here?
Speaker 6: And sure enough you could see on the security footage
Speaker 6: exactly that that it just started spinning just out of
Speaker 6: nowhere and then it just stopped, so kind of had
Speaker 6: everyone a little creeked out, but it's like, Okay, it's
Speaker 6: not it's a fun got someone who like really enjoys animation, So.
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. At least it's the fun goes. But
Speaker 1: when you say an elevator like well, speak of dizzy,
Speaker 1: it makes me think of the Tower of Terror. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it is one of the scariest things that are done
Speaker 1: in my entire life. But uh, that's the thought of
Speaker 1: being trapped in an elevator with a ghost is I
Speaker 1: can't think of a scarier thing. So what what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? What happens in an elevator?
Speaker 6: So we have this one elevator and this like we've
Speaker 6: had elevator technicians come. They can't figure out what is
Speaker 6: going on here, and like our facilities team, no one
Speaker 6: can figure out what's happening.
Speaker 4: So this is a little unexplained. But in one of
Speaker 4: our elevators, it only goes up one floor. It's like
Speaker 4: a guest elevator for the museum, and.
Speaker 6: Like right after the museum closes, it would always be
Speaker 6: like laid after like five o'clock, it would start having
Speaker 6: these weird things happen. So it was a conscientious goss
Speaker 6: that's what I'm I'm calling it didn't want to run
Speaker 6: the guest experience. But the you would press the button
Speaker 6: and the doors would start like open really slowly, as
Speaker 6: like it kind of looks like they're being like pulled
Speaker 6: apart on us, and then they'd slam shut do some
Speaker 6: sort of like like it would kind of do a
Speaker 6: variation of that and over.
Speaker 4: And then the shaking would begin.
Speaker 6: And I have like multiple videos of this because it's
Speaker 6: just like so bizarre. But the doors start making this
Speaker 6: like clamoring sound like.
Speaker 4: But it's they're being pushed.
Speaker 6: So in the videos, like you can see and the
Speaker 6: people who were standing by were like the doors are
Speaker 6: being pushed forward and backwards, and there's not a there's
Speaker 6: not a thing in the elevator functions to do that.
Speaker 6: Like they go, you know, back and forth. They shouldn't,
Speaker 6: you know, one way, like how a regular elevator goes,
Speaker 6: like they shouldn't be going the opposite way. So it
Speaker 6: definitely like and it's not a rhythmic. It just wasn't
Speaker 6: a rhythmic sound like it was catching like a machine,
Speaker 6: you know, like it would be like you know, in
Speaker 6: a cycle, and so it would be like.
Speaker 4: Boom boom boom boom boom. You know, it just wasn't
Speaker 4: it wasn't consistent.
Speaker 6: So it really sounded like someone is like pushing on
Speaker 6: the doors and just having a fun time. And this
Speaker 6: happens all the time and they just cannot figure out
Speaker 6: it's always different times, but always in the evening and
Speaker 6: it's yeah, it's always just like pushing back and forth.
Speaker 6: It sounds kind of violent, but it's like someone's just
Speaker 6: like kind of having a good time in there.
Speaker 1: So are all the ghosts like nice?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think all the ghosts are nice.
Speaker 6: We do have like a prankster ghost that it is
Speaker 6: consistently tripping people. So in our like on our top
Speaker 6: floor where only staff is allowed, there's just this one
Speaker 6: spot where almost every single person that's worked at the
Speaker 6: museum has gotten tripped in this particular spot. And it
Speaker 6: feels like like I've gotten tripped there and it just
Speaker 6: feels like there's a brick in front of my foot,
Speaker 6: like I didn't trip over my feet.
Speaker 4: There's like in the buildings made of bricks.
Speaker 6: So I don't know if maybe that's a tie in,
Speaker 6: but but yeah, it's like I'm tripping over a brick.
Speaker 6: And it's in front conference room that has like a
Speaker 6: glass wall so you can see when people trip, and
Speaker 6: we always.
Speaker 4: Like to like, so, uh, did you trip over your
Speaker 4: own feet? It's all a little clumsy.
Speaker 6: Today, and they're like, I don't know what happened, And
Speaker 6: usually we're like, okay, So here's a downlow, like there's
Speaker 6: a ghost that really likes to trip people in this
Speaker 6: particular spot, Like there's nothing wrong with the ground. I
Speaker 6: don't I don't know how to explain that.
Speaker 1: That is so weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's just one of those things where I mean,
Speaker 6: at least they're friendly, nothing nothing too crazy. We have
Speaker 6: a ghost that will like to likes to turn on
Speaker 6: our theater in the middle of the night and scare
Speaker 6: poor security guards and and that that one is like again,
Speaker 6: it's like the theater will just randomly turn on. There's
Speaker 6: not one button to like turn on a movie like
Speaker 6: our theater is like you know, the curtains come out
Speaker 6: and you.
Speaker 4: Have to press the button to get the screen to
Speaker 4: go down.
Speaker 6: I've talked to our av people about this a lot
Speaker 6: because I was like, so, what's the deal here, Like
Speaker 6: why how could this feasibly happen like with technology, Like,
Speaker 6: you know, is it really you know, I don't always
Speaker 6: want it. Them to the conclusion that it's a ghost,
Speaker 6: you know, try to find you know, find a reasonable thing,
Speaker 6: and they, you know, they couldn't figure it out either,
Speaker 6: how movies were getting played in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So has anybody ever seen anybody? Or is it
Speaker 1: more this kind of prankster poltageisty kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no one has ever seen like a figure or
Speaker 6: anything like that. And you know that's yeah, they're apparently
Speaker 6: in the persidio.
Speaker 4: There is a kind of a famous figure.
Speaker 6: It's like a woman in a black like Spanish dress
Speaker 6: that has been seen a lot walking around. They actually
Speaker 6: had a Ghost Hunters episode all about her a while back.
Speaker 6: But so I've heard people who see her around just
Speaker 6: a presidio in general, but nobody in the museum.
Speaker 4: Has actually seen kind of a figure or anything like that.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house, Audrey in Kresno area.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm good, really good.
Speaker 7: It's actually a beautiful fall day today, so I'm much
Speaker 7: better now.
Speaker 1: Oh. I know, it's starting to feel like a Halloween
Speaker 1: time and I absolutely love it. I was reading the
Speaker 1: story you sent me which involved your daughter, and your
Speaker 1: daughter is with us as well. Hi Hi, Hi, So okay,
Speaker 1: let's hear the story because I found it pretty.
Speaker 7: Spooky, crazy, right, Okay, So this was back in twenty twelve.
Speaker 5: I had just had a baby.
Speaker 7: I think he was about six months old at this time,
Speaker 7: so so it's probably anywhere between October November twenty twelve
Speaker 7: and the way I had it set up in my apartment.
Speaker 5: We had a very small apartment.
Speaker 7: And like the living room, dining room, and kitchen all
Speaker 7: were in the same room, and then on the opposite
Speaker 7: side of the apartment was like a Jack and Jill
Speaker 7: bathroom with bedrooms on each side, and my kids shared
Speaker 7: a room Joelane and my baby Limb, and then we
Speaker 7: were in obviously the opposite bedroom, and I had baby
Speaker 7: monitors in both rooms. And Jolene had been telling us
Speaker 7: for a while that she has this little blue boy
Speaker 7: friend and that he was really nice and they would
Speaker 7: play together, and.
Speaker 5: I would hear her talking in her room and be like,
Speaker 5: who are you talking to? Oh, it's a little blue boy.
Speaker 7: Or she'll be looking at the closet two and a
Speaker 7: half years old talking.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, who are you talking to? And it's
Speaker 5: a little blue boy.
Speaker 7: And so me and my family just summed it up
Speaker 7: as she's excited for having a little brother, or you know,
Speaker 7: kids are a little.
Speaker 5: Imaginative, So I thought maybe that's all that was. Well.
Speaker 5: This particular night we were in bed.
Speaker 7: I had just gotten my son to really start sleeping
Speaker 7: throughout the nights. So I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 7: been around little babies, but if you wake them longs,
Speaker 7: we'll just kill you, like, don't wake the baby, whatever
Speaker 7: you do. So it was like eight thirty at night,
Speaker 7: We're all laying down and I can hear on the
Speaker 7: baby monitor the crib like rocking like I hear like,
Speaker 7: and I'm listening, getting ready to go get on to
Speaker 7: my daughter, thinking she's messing with the baby.
Speaker 5: But I keep listening and.
Speaker 7: I hear drilling over the monitor like ohoh, sleepy, stop
Speaker 7: it the heck who's she talking to?
Speaker 5: And so I wake my EGX and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, listen to this.
Speaker 5: Listen, she's like talking to somebody.
Speaker 7: And then you hear the cribs start shaking aga he's
Speaker 7: going on, and you hear jelling like, seriously, stop it,
Speaker 7: leave them alone, Like it's like, leave them alone. And
Speaker 7: so we're listening and we're listening, and it keeps happening.
Speaker 7: This crib keeps like shaking, and then she's telling it
Speaker 7: to stop keep shaking.
Speaker 5: And I'm getting nervous now, like, oh my god, is
Speaker 5: there somebody else in the room, or you know, what
Speaker 5: the heck is it? I just really didn't know what
Speaker 5: to think. And then really, really faintly, you hear, my god,
Speaker 5: no hell is that? So then I jump up, like
Speaker 5: literally the hair on the back of my neck was
Speaker 5: standing up. I run in the room. I flicked the
Speaker 5: light on.
Speaker 7: At this point, my son is still perfectly sleeping, and
Speaker 7: Joline looks at me, really startled because she thinks she's
Speaker 7: getting in trouble and I'm like.
Speaker 4: Who are you talking to?
Speaker 5: What? Who was that? And she's like, oh, it's a
Speaker 5: little blue.
Speaker 7: Boy and like like jesturing towards the closet, and I'm
Speaker 7: like a little little blue boy, like he's in here now,
Speaker 7: and she's like gesturing towards the closet.
Speaker 5: So my ex goes and looks through the closet and
Speaker 5: I'm like talking to her, like, who who's this little
Speaker 5: blue blue, little blue boy And.
Speaker 7: She's like, you know, like the same little blue boy
Speaker 7: that I've been playing with her now it's this kid.
Speaker 5: So then at that point, because my ex is always like, oh,
Speaker 5: you guys are being dramatic.
Speaker 7: Or whatever whatever, but there was just something how descriptive
Speaker 7: she was about this little.
Speaker 5: Blue boy or how much she was playing.
Speaker 7: With this little blue boy, that I just knew something
Speaker 7: about her story. There was some authenticity to it that
Speaker 7: I just knew something was real.
Speaker 5: It wasn't more than just being imagined too well.
Speaker 7: And hearing that voice, yeah, like it was so quiet,
Speaker 7: but my god, just like that.
Speaker 1: That is from a horror movie. I'm sorry, but like
Speaker 1: over a baby monitor hearing like somebody in your child's room.
Speaker 7: Yes, and not to mention, it's like Jack and Jill
Speaker 7: like I should be able to hear obviously I have
Speaker 7: the monitors, but I should be able to hear someone's
Speaker 7: coming in or whatever because they're right there.
Speaker 4: We were right next to the front door.
Speaker 5: To right, so that is another thing too.
Speaker 7: It just sounded like, oh my god, either someone's coming
Speaker 7: in or I don't know. I just didn't go straight
Speaker 7: to ghost. That really wasn't my first thought until we
Speaker 7: got in the room and.
Speaker 5: Nobody was there. They re sting in the closet. She
Speaker 5: just looked at me like, hey, sorry, sorry, we woke you.
Speaker 5: Me and my friend playing.
Speaker 1: Do you have any any recollection or like do you
Speaker 1: remember the Blue Boy?
Speaker 5: Not really, not really at all.
Speaker 7: No, No, yeah, we have a lot more stories too, like, okay,
Speaker 7: so in the four years that we lived there, this
Speaker 7: was probably within the that was the first year we
Speaker 7: lived there, within that first year, and after that happened,
Speaker 7: it was like it was like they knew, we knew,
Speaker 7: and everything just kind of started getting more crazier and
Speaker 7: like I had friends that would come over and get
Speaker 7: their hair pulled while we're sitting on the couch, and
Speaker 7: it wasn't like they would get a pull and pull
Speaker 7: your head back. It was like it was like they'd
Speaker 7: pinch with just their fingers and just slightly pooled, so
Speaker 7: it was almost like you touched the back of your
Speaker 7: head kind of turn around, look around like that did
Speaker 7: that just really happen?
Speaker 5: And then over time it just kept.
Speaker 7: Happening, just so many people that were coming over that
Speaker 7: people were going did you.
Speaker 5: Hear your hair pool too? Or did you hear that?
Speaker 5: Or did you see this?
Speaker 7: Or I would have some friends that would just know,
Speaker 7: like if anything happens, like oh, this is Audrey's apartment.
Speaker 5: This is just how it happened. And then I'd have
Speaker 5: some friends who are like.
Speaker 7: Hell, no, we'll come over for a barbecue, but as
Speaker 7: soon as it hits nighttime, we're out, Like we're.
Speaker 5: Not sleeping in your apartment anymore.
Speaker 7: Another thing that would happen is the doors in my kitchen.
Speaker 7: The kitchen cabinets would open, and it would start it
Speaker 7: with just like the salt and pepper shaker door was
Speaker 7: left open, or just the cups cabinet door was left open.
Speaker 7: So I thought maybe it was my ex you did it?
Speaker 7: You know, just getting something to dream and not closing it.
Speaker 7: And I would con instantly be yelling at him. And
Speaker 7: then the next morning like how hard is it to
Speaker 7: close the cabinet door?
Speaker 5: Like just keep the doors closed. And then one morning.
Speaker 7: I knew for sure I had closed all these damn
Speaker 7: cabinet doors. I oh, yeah, anyways, so I closed all
Speaker 7: the cabinet doors. I knew they were closed because I
Speaker 7: did it. And then the next morning, all of the
Speaker 7: stinking cabinet doors are open. No, not one, not two,
Speaker 7: not three, every stinking cabin down. Even so we had
Speaker 7: like the bottom cabinets a bar area and then around
Speaker 7: about cabinet on top for like cups and sware or
Speaker 7: i'm sorry, tubleware.
Speaker 5: And things like that. Every cabinet in the kitchen was open.
Speaker 5: And I remember standing there like, oh, oh okay, I
Speaker 5: see this isn't it was not human, this is something else.
Speaker 5: This is way different.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The kids wouldn't be able to do like way
Speaker 1: up high or anything like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 7: My son was an infant, and Joline she was a toddler,
Speaker 7: just running around.
Speaker 5: At my hit side.
Speaker 7: But no, they't yeah no. And I remember standing there
Speaker 7: looking at it. Like especially that morning, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 7: so this is definitely different.
Speaker 5: It's definitely haunted.
Speaker 7: And we lived in the way these apartments were set up.
Speaker 7: There were more like townhouses, so it was like a
Speaker 7: two bedroom, a three bedroom, and a four bedroom townhouses.
Speaker 5: They were all like smushed together, if that makes sense.
Speaker 7: There were like blocks of different townhouse apartments, and I
Speaker 7: had a couple different neighbors tell me that they were
Speaker 7: having weird, suspicious things going on at their place. I
Speaker 7: had one of my best best friends, I've known her
Speaker 7: since I was thirteen. She lived across the apartments in
Speaker 7: her own little townhouse, and she was telling me about
Speaker 7: one night her she she was like pushed down, like quietly,
Speaker 7: like started to explain. It's called sleep sleep paralysis, where
Speaker 7: you're like pushed down even though there's not someone physically
Speaker 7: there pushing you down. You don't see anybody, but you
Speaker 7: can't move, you can't talk. You're trying to scream. She
Speaker 7: said she was trying to wake up her her husband
Speaker 7: who was there, her ex husband, and she couldn't move
Speaker 7: and she was like.
Speaker 5: Like trying to scream and it just wouldn't come out.
Speaker 7: And she just got through telling me this story, and
Speaker 7: I'm We're like going back and forth telling.
Speaker 5: Each other our own growth stories in our apartment.
Speaker 7: Like maybe a couple weeks after that hurts telling me
Speaker 7: this story. I wake up one night to the so
Speaker 7: my bed was up, like it was along with my closet,
Speaker 7: so like if I was laying down and I was
Speaker 7: staring at the.
Speaker 5: Wall, the wall was my closet. That makes sense, Okay.
Speaker 7: So I was sleeping and I heard my hangers like dangling,
Speaker 7: as if somebody had just ran their hand along ran
Speaker 7: their hand along it, and it was like clink clinkling, think.
Speaker 7: And so when I opened my eyes, and I don't know,
Speaker 7: like something like that really you think would not wake
Speaker 7: you up, but for whatever reason, it did, and I
Speaker 7: saw the hanger swing. And when you're asleep like that
Speaker 7: and you just wake up, it takes you a couple
Speaker 7: of minutes.
Speaker 5: To realize what you're looking at.
Speaker 7: So I was laying there staring at the hangers, like
Speaker 7: is this is this real? And it was definitely real,
Speaker 7: And out of the corner of my eye, I could
Speaker 7: see this old lady Okay.
Speaker 8: Side though I used to tell my mom all the
Speaker 8: time about my blue Boy's grundandmother. She was very mean,
Speaker 8: like I remember telling her all the time, like he
Speaker 8: doesn't she doesn't let us play together all the time anymore,
Speaker 8: and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: A grumpy old grandma.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So she was standing at the end of my
Speaker 7: bed and out of the corner of my eye, like
Speaker 7: I could see her as if I'm staring at my
Speaker 7: daughter right now, like I could. She wasn't mystical or
Speaker 7: see through or she looked gray and scraggly, like there
Speaker 7: was like black.
Speaker 5: Pieces in her hair, but it was mostly gray.
Speaker 7: And she had really deep, sunken dead eyes like you
Speaker 7: could and not deadlight because she's a ghost.
Speaker 5: It was dead like. She just looked miserable. She didn't
Speaker 5: look happy at all. She looked very angry.
Speaker 7: And I yeah at that point, and I'm not the
Speaker 7: kind of person who just will scream when I get scared.
Speaker 7: I get really quiet, and I almost freeze, like I don't.
Speaker 5: Know what to do.
Speaker 7: I just I can't believe this is even happening. And
Speaker 7: I remember doing the same thing.
Speaker 5: That my friend had just told me about.
Speaker 7: About wanting to turn over and grab my my ex
Speaker 7: husband at the time, like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, like, do youse say this lady?
Speaker 7: And I couldn't move, So I'm just staring at her
Speaker 7: like tears are rolling down my face.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to scream.
Speaker 7: My whole buddy's hot, and I'm like sweating because I'm terrified,
Speaker 7: and I'm looking at the bottom of my bed at
Speaker 7: this psychle lady staring at me like I won't want
Speaker 7: to kill.
Speaker 5: You, knowing damn well, she's not really there.
Speaker 7: And finally, like it's like it spews out of me
Speaker 7: and I start screaming, and my ex jumped up tremble
Speaker 7: light on and my dude, we always said good the
Speaker 7: night light on always, so it wasn't.
Speaker 5: The room wasn't extremely dark, like there was a nightlight on.
Speaker 5: I know what I saw. I know it was there.
Speaker 7: And the minute featured the overhead light on to the bedroom,
Speaker 7: she was gone, absolutely gone.
Speaker 1: Was she going through your closet looking for outfits or
Speaker 1: what was she doing?
Speaker 7: I have not She's like one hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. So did your ex believe this
Speaker 1: at any points?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So he had his own little teeny tiny experience. He
Speaker 7: did not believe anything we told him. He's so AMPI
Speaker 7: ghostly crazy. There was nothing there. Yeah, he's obviously still
Speaker 7: because we've been we can relate to some of these
Speaker 7: ghost stories and we're super into paranormal and haunted shows
Speaker 7: and things like this. Yeah, but he did have an experience,
Speaker 7: whether he wants to admit it or not. In the
Speaker 7: same room Joelane and Liam's room. My son was sleeping
Speaker 7: in there and I think me and Joelane were shopping there.
Speaker 7: We weren't home, and his dad had come over and
Speaker 7: the door was shut to the bedroom and he was
Speaker 7: sitting on the couch and his dad came in and
Speaker 7: they were sitting in the living room talking and you
Speaker 7: can hear the door knock, jiggle, google and his dad.
Speaker 5: Says, oh, do you hear that? What is that?
Speaker 7: And my ex I'm pretty sure is having his own experiences.
Speaker 7: He's just choosing to ignore them. So he might hear something,
Speaker 7: see something and he's like, oh, that's the wind, like
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't know what that was. But this
Speaker 7: time he couldn't do.
Speaker 5: That because his dad is going, oh, did you did
Speaker 5: you hear that?
Speaker 7: And so of course he's like, yeah, I did, And
Speaker 7: so his dad gets up and goes towards the door
Speaker 7: and he can see the door knob jiggling, and he was.
Speaker 5: Just like, oh, yeah, that that happened, like that was crazy.
Speaker 7: But he still to this day will be like, oh,
Speaker 7: you girls are nuts.
Speaker 5: You're so dramatic.
Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy, And we might be a little dramatic, but
Speaker 7: it's real.
Speaker 1: I can relate. So you guys ended up leaving.
Speaker 5: He ended up coming up to the mountains.
Speaker 1: And so what did you so the conclusion as there
Speaker 1: was an old lady and a little boy maybe, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: the little boy.
Speaker 5: I saw the little boy too.
Speaker 7: I saw the old lady that night and she was
Speaker 7: like crazy, hell she was doing to me that night,
Speaker 7: but it was really scary. But the little boy, blue boy,
Speaker 7: that one was a little more interesting because he didn't
Speaker 7: attack me at all. But I have been sleeping, obviously
Speaker 7: away from the closet, and now I'm sleeping by the
Speaker 7: bedroom door. And the weird thing too with spirits, and
Speaker 7: you've probably heard this before, is literally nothing could be happening,
Speaker 7: and for whatever.
Speaker 5: Reason, you'd just wake up.
Speaker 7: It'll be two thirty in the morning, for whatever reason,
Speaker 7: you can feel something staring at you when you wake up.
Speaker 7: And so I woke up. I have no idea what
Speaker 7: time it is. It's really late. And I in the
Speaker 7: corner of my bedroom, I had a window and like
Speaker 7: a ledge and then in the corner there was nothing
Speaker 7: in that corner, and then my dress around some on
Speaker 7: the opposite side. So the dresser almost did a shadow
Speaker 7: at night in that corner because of the night light.
Speaker 5: I was using.
Speaker 7: Was it was an old antique dresser and they had
Speaker 7: the lights already built into the dresser.
Speaker 5: So that was our nightlight. And in the corner.
Speaker 7: You could just see that there was more masks to
Speaker 7: the corner than just a shadow, like you could see
Speaker 7: that it was dark. And I remember looking that way
Speaker 7: and it was like you could see that there was
Speaker 7: an extra mass. It was just they had more to it.
Speaker 7: And as I'm staring at it, the little he was
Speaker 7: hunched down with his head on his knees, and as
Speaker 7: I'm staring at him, he lifted his head up.
Speaker 1: No, this is all horror movie stuff right here.
Speaker 7: That's why we liked horror movies and things because people
Speaker 7: don't believe it.
Speaker 5: But most of these movies.
Speaker 7: And shows and podcasts that people are so interested in,
Speaker 7: people who actually have dealt with these hauntings totally relate
Speaker 7: to that.
Speaker 5: They were like, oh, yeah, totally know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's all based on something.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's and people think like, oh, I don't
Speaker 7: like that scary stuff because it's just scary, Like no, yeah,
Speaker 7: some of these scary things are actually. But anyway, so
Speaker 7: when I was looking at I was I saw the
Speaker 7: little boy. He looked up at me, and he was
Speaker 7: almost startled that I saw him that I was.
Speaker 5: Looking at him.
Speaker 7: So we both kind of looked at each other like
Speaker 7: I can't believe I'm looking at you, and he's looking
Speaker 7: at me like I can't believe.
Speaker 5: You see me. And we just got like that for
Speaker 5: a minute. And because at this point, I'm really tired.
Speaker 7: I was getting irritated with all the ghost things that
Speaker 7: were happening with the keminic doors and door knobs and
Speaker 7: waking up my kids and pulling my friend's.
Speaker 5: Bears and nobody wants to hang out of my house
Speaker 5: and it's on.
Speaker 7: So I'm looking at it and I go, no, I'm
Speaker 7: not We're not doing this.
Speaker 5: I'm tired, leave me alone. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 7: And I just went back to like I was just
Speaker 7: I'm not doing it sleeping. I never seen him again,
Speaker 7: he never I never seen anything after.
Speaker 1: That for him, with him, with him being surprised by you.
Speaker 1: It could even be one of those situations where he
Speaker 1: thinks you're the ghost. Like it could be I've heard
Speaker 1: I hear these stories sometimes and there's a famous.
Speaker 5: Movie, like a individual haunting.
Speaker 1: Thing well where it's they're still living in their world
Speaker 1: and they're like, who is that lady that sleeps in
Speaker 1: the you know, grandma's bedroom. Yes exactly, yes, exactly. I
Speaker 1: never want to say the movie because it's a spoiler,
Speaker 1: even though it's twenty years old. But yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: famous movie like that. So I don't know, that's.
Speaker 5: A really good.
Speaker 7: Good I never thought of it like that too.
Speaker 1: So Risa and North Carolina, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 5: I'm good? Ross?
Speaker 1: How are you so good? I feel like you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of stories I have.
Speaker 9: I have a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well where do we start?
Speaker 10: We can start, I guess from when I was a
Speaker 10: kid in Hawaii. Okay, okay, So in Hawaii, my mom
Speaker 10: and my stepdad, So my stepdad was military and we
Speaker 10: lived on like Hawahu in a military base, and so
Speaker 10: I distinctly remember I guess when you're military, sometimes you're
Speaker 10: on duty and stuff, and the duty you have to
Speaker 10: like work twenty four hours.
Speaker 9: And I remember being in my room one night, and we.
Speaker 10: Lived in like these older, like military houses, and I
Speaker 10: remember hearing the door open downstairs.
Speaker 9: When he I guess, I guess he had come home.
Speaker 10: And I figured out figured it was him because I
Speaker 10: heard like the military boots, like it has like a
Speaker 10: distinct sound of like walking, and it.
Speaker 9: Sounded like him.
Speaker 10: And I heard it go from like the front door
Speaker 10: to like the kitchen, and I heard like rattling, and
Speaker 10: then I heard it come up the stairs slowly and
Speaker 10: then yes, and then when you got to the top
Speaker 10: of the stairs, like directly across from the stairs was
Speaker 10: like my appearents, you know, my mom and my stepdad's room,
Speaker 10: and immediately to the right was my little sister's room,
Speaker 10: and her room would face like there's a window that
Speaker 10: would face out to like outside of the house. You
Speaker 10: could see like the carboard and stuff down there. And
Speaker 10: down the hall was my room and my little brother's room.
Speaker 10: And I heard him come up the stairs and I
Speaker 10: heard him walking towards my room, and then I heard
Speaker 10: it just like it stopped, and then it sounded like
Speaker 10: he kind of did like a right face or whatever
Speaker 10: direction he went, I don't know, and go into I
Speaker 10: guess his room.
Speaker 9: And I thought that was weird.
Speaker 10: And I don't know why I decided to do this,
Speaker 10: but I went out and I kind of like tiptoed
Speaker 10: over to my little sister's room, which faces outside, and
Speaker 10: I looked down and he has this really distinct purple truck.
Speaker 9: It's like a shabby purple truck. And it wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Okay, how old are you?
Speaker 9: I am thirty?
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry in the story, oh in this story.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 9: I was probably like, oh, it was probably eight, eight
Speaker 9: or nine.
Speaker 1: Hey, you decided to tiptoe and investigate. I feel like
Speaker 1: that when you watch a horror movie and you're like, who,
Speaker 1: no one would go out there if they heard so much.
Speaker 10: I'm probably that person. If you hear a noise, I'm like, hello,
Speaker 10: who's there?
Speaker 1: Wow? You are so much braver at eight than I
Speaker 1: am currently.
Speaker 10: Well, when I figured out that it wasn't his truck,
Speaker 10: I was like, oh no, and I tried to quickly
Speaker 10: quietly run back to my room hide under the covers.
Speaker 10: I don't know who that.
Speaker 9: I don't know if it was like a ghost or
Speaker 9: if my mom might have been doing something as she
Speaker 9: wanted post to be done. But I'm asting it as
Speaker 9: a ghost.
Speaker 1: What were there other things happening there?
Speaker 10: There were there were a few things that happened. And see,
Speaker 10: I think what made it more significant is earlier that week.
Speaker 10: I remember we went to Pro Harbor to like, I guess,
Speaker 10: do a visit and tour, I guess. And it's a
Speaker 10: very like ominous place, kind of like when you go
Speaker 10: to Ground zero in New York. It's very ominous. And
Speaker 10: I don't know, like maybe something followed as home or what.
Speaker 10: But you know, we've had that. I've had experiences where
Speaker 10: people have knocked on the door and nobody was there,
Speaker 10: and then, you know, I'm like nine years old, I
Speaker 10: answered it.
Speaker 9: I don't know who it is, so I don't know
Speaker 9: who I let in.
Speaker 10: Oh no, yes, And then you know, I've had experiences
Speaker 10: here in North Carolina, you know, at you know, when
Speaker 10: I was in college, I went to UNC Pembroke, and
Speaker 10: I used to work at like the little Starbucks they
Speaker 10: have there, and oh my god, I remember it was
Speaker 10: like labor new weekend or something and we had to
Speaker 10: work overnight or overnight it was midward night, and like
Speaker 10: we closed at ten.
Speaker 9: I don't understand why because nobody was there.
Speaker 10: And I remember we had to bring all their stuff
Speaker 10: back to like the main cafeteria and it was dark
Speaker 10: and there were some lights on, and we were in
Speaker 10: the back of the cafeteria and there was like a
Speaker 10: little window that kind of you could see out into
Speaker 10: the dining room. And I saw a man walking into
Speaker 10: the formal dining room where like the chancellors and stuff eat.
Speaker 10: And it didn't register me until he left that he
Speaker 10: didn't have a bottom half.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yes, where was the bottom half?
Speaker 9: I have no light? Probably in the chancellor's dining room.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need this.
Speaker 9: He's like yeah, He's like, I just need the lap
Speaker 9: half to eat.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: Wait?
Speaker 1: But was did he love see through and ghosty from
Speaker 1: the top half up?
Speaker 5: Kind of? Yeah?
Speaker 10: He looked kind of like this pale guy. And I
Speaker 10: didn't And I guess because it was dark, it didn't
Speaker 10: really register.
Speaker 5: With me that it was a ghost until I realized.
Speaker 9: Like that nobody should be there right now?
Speaker 4: Oh no, yes, had.
Speaker 1: Other people seen things like that around there, yes.
Speaker 9: And it's insane.
Speaker 10: And it's like, so Pembroke is like in a town
Speaker 10: where the majority of the people there are lumby Indians, so's.
Speaker 9: There's like a lot of like ghosty stuff that happens there.
Speaker 10: And I mean, I've that's the only thing I've experienced
Speaker 10: in Pembroke as far as I can remember, but you know,
Speaker 10: I've had a lot of other like experiences as well,
Speaker 10: like all around.
Speaker 9: I don't know why.
Speaker 10: I feel like I'm kind of like I want to
Speaker 10: see it, but though when I see it, I don't
Speaker 10: believe it until after the fact.
Speaker 1: So, okay, tell me about these premonitions.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 10: So my mom she's just like four foot eleven Filipino
Speaker 10: firecracker of a lady, and she would always tell me growing.
Speaker 9: Up, I'm psychic. I am psychic, blah blah blah, I
Speaker 9: can do this second and pict blah blah blah.
Speaker 10: Okay, So like she you know, she would always like
Speaker 10: she predicted that one of my friends, uh would get
Speaker 10: pregnant and then have a baby at like this, like
Speaker 10: sometime when we were in high school and it happened,
Speaker 10: and so.
Speaker 9: She was like, yeah, you have been gift.
Speaker 5: You haven't.
Speaker 9: You just need to consent threat. And I'm like, you
Speaker 9: know whatever, Mom's I don't. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 9: really believe you.
Speaker 10: And I've just noticed a lot here in the last
Speaker 10: like couple of years that I have seen, like I
Speaker 10: can predict things and I chalk it up. Is like
Speaker 10: when it happens when I think it, I'm like, no,
Speaker 10: that's stupid. Why would I think that? And then it happened.
Speaker 10: So like an example is a I was at of
Speaker 10: work one day and I came back the next day
Speaker 10: and uh, I saw the elevator had.
Speaker 9: An out of order sign.
Speaker 10: And immediately in my head, I was like, Diana was
Speaker 10: in there and she got stuck and it fell.
Speaker 9: And I was like, that's horrible. Why would I think
Speaker 9: that about her? It's so mean.
Speaker 10: And so then I got to my desk and I'm
Speaker 10: like type of la da da da da. And Diana
Speaker 10: comes in and she's like, Terrissa, you missed it yesterday.
Speaker 10: I got I was in the elevator. Did you see
Speaker 10: how to order sign?
Speaker 9: I was like yeah, She's like I got in there
Speaker 9: and I got stuck and it fell.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 9: Yes, it was so weird. And then this other time,
Speaker 9: this really significant time.
Speaker 10: I remember I was in my living room and I
Speaker 10: was just like I was kind of just chilling on
Speaker 10: the couch.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 10: It was a long day, and the kids are like
Speaker 10: doing their own thing, and I'm just sitting there and
Speaker 10: I'm like just like whatever, and I feel like a
Speaker 10: finger or a cockroach or something.
Speaker 1: More terrifying.
Speaker 10: I don't know either, but like it was significant enough
Speaker 10: where I could feel my hair moved and like it
Speaker 10: like it honestly, it just felt like it's like you
Speaker 10: had that child come over you, and like it felt
Speaker 10: like legit. Somebody touched me with their finger and like
Speaker 10: right under my ear, like on my neck.
Speaker 9: And I jumped up like think in my neck like
Speaker 9: who was that? Oh my god? And my phone fell
Speaker 9: out of my lap.
Speaker 10: And as soon as my phone fell I got a
Speaker 10: message from my auntie and she was like trying to
Speaker 10: text me.
Speaker 9: She's like, Aisha, something happened with your mom. You need
Speaker 9: prom up to the hospital.
Speaker 10: So I go to the hospital and apparently my mom
Speaker 10: and my other auntie fell a little tipsy and they
Speaker 10: got into a little argument, and the other auntie kind
Speaker 10: of went like I ray her that my mom feels
Speaker 10: like a demon myself over her and the and like
Speaker 10: my auntie like bit my mom's finger. What yes, And
Speaker 10: she needed to get stitches and stuff, but like there
Speaker 10: was a lot of blood and they had to give her.
Speaker 9: Anything like a shot for something.
Speaker 10: But yeah, like they got into it, like my mom
Speaker 10: was trying to like fight her off and then she
Speaker 10: like bit her finger like super hard.
Speaker 1: Whoa. So, how do you explain your you know, premonition
Speaker 1: or whatever that is? Like what do you what do
Speaker 1: you think? I mean?
Speaker 10: I feel like so like my mom's always like, yeah,
Speaker 10: you're psychic or psychic, and I'm like I just like
Speaker 10: I'm like I don't think so. And I've had like
Speaker 10: psychic readings done, and I've had like tarot card reading,
Speaker 10: and every one of those people have told me that
Speaker 10: they can tell I'm as sensitive.
Speaker 9: And I'm like, is this like a gimmick that y'all
Speaker 9: tell everybody?
Speaker 1: Like that's what they always tell me too. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they tell everyone. But I'm also
Speaker 1: like I think they can tell that I'm not, that
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as them, because then they'd be
Speaker 1: afraid I would take all their business. So I feel
Speaker 1: like they're just like, you got some skills, but you're
Speaker 1: not that good at it.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Like they're like, oh yeah, you're you know, you're
Speaker 10: sensitive and it's you know, you allow me to work
Speaker 10: with you.
Speaker 9: We can probably stand into it more. And I'm like, god,
Speaker 9: I've got time for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I know. I've got, like I have Rosetta
Speaker 1: Stone over here. I'm trying to learn work on my Spanish.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got guitars in this house that I
Speaker 1: don't know how to play. Like, I got other things
Speaker 1: to worry about right now that I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to predict the future right now.
Speaker 9: Yes, like I just I don't have I got too
Speaker 9: much going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, well hey can I uh play you a
Speaker 1: ghost voice?
Speaker 5: Yes? Please?
Speaker 10: Yes, you know it.
Speaker 9: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or e vase. Yes, I hear
Speaker 1: I feel like I hear an EVP behind you.
Speaker 9: It's my son.
Speaker 10: He's three and he has we Actually he just actually
Speaker 10: got buying us with auxism. But he loves shouting and
Speaker 10: watching things on repeat.
Speaker 9: I'm telling you I have he watches Hamilton. Oh he
Speaker 9: loves him.
Speaker 10: See he loves the girls and handled the Skyler sisters
Speaker 10: like he'll watch uh Eliza, she He'll watch her over
Speaker 10: and over again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, ladies, man, oh cute. Well, hopefully you'll
Speaker 1: be able to hear this. Uh the EVP I found Okay,
Speaker 1: I went to YouTube. I found this one. It was
Speaker 1: posted by p I T of CT, which I believe
Speaker 1: is Connecticut, and it just says that it's at a
Speaker 1: client's house. So I'm assuming this is a paranormal investigation
Speaker 1: team in Connecticut. They're at a client's house. I will
Speaker 1: say that they did say in the description that this
Speaker 1: is what they think. You know, they said it sounds
Speaker 1: like it's saying this, so they're not like super set
Speaker 1: in Stone. But what they think it sounds like will
Speaker 1: be the correct answer. So all right, tell me what
Speaker 1: you think this sounds like. All right, here we go.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 1: I know it's pretty quiet. Let me try it again.
Speaker 9: Something about my family?
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, that's okay, hang on one second, let
Speaker 1: me play it again. It's so weird because I heard
Speaker 1: something like that, and then I didn't, and then I
Speaker 1: played it again a couple of times and I heard
Speaker 1: something completely different, and now I hear it again. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's some options. Is that A please don't record me?
Speaker 1: Is it b feast or famine? Is it C? Is
Speaker 1: that your family? Or D? This is real corny? All right,
Speaker 1: let me play it again.
Speaker 9: Okay, is this your family?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 1: That's what I think? Well, they said they think it
Speaker 1: sounds like is that your family? But I think it
Speaker 1: sounds like is this your family? Let me play it
Speaker 1: one more? Okay, I mean I hear that.
Speaker 9: She sounds really like she's like, is this your family?
Speaker 9: Like so rude.
Speaker 1: I know she's like, this is your family? Really?
Speaker 9: Okay, it's probably talking about my kids right now? Is
Speaker 9: this your family? Seriously?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just like a really bitchy Connecticut lady.
Speaker 4: Just so stuck up.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, well Charissa, Yes, this is great.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much us.
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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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