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Speaker 1: Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

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Speaker 1: Phone Call Extravaganza, the twenty third one ever, on with

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Speaker 1: the show Casey in Portland, Oregon. Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, ros even better because I'm talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I'm honored. You know. I love Portland and I

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Speaker 1: also I mean I just talked to the Unsettling Toys

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Speaker 1: there's some weirdos in Portland and that's why I love.

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Speaker 2: It so much, That's why I came here.

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Speaker 1: Well, you hit me up about a haunted lingerie store,

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Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed. Can we just hear this story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So this happened in San Diego in the early

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Speaker 3: two thousands. I was working in a lingerie store that

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Speaker 3: will not be named, and everything seemed totally normal, as

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Speaker 3: it always does in these stories. And I had been

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Speaker 3: there for a very short period of time. I was

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Speaker 3: one of the managers, so I would come into the

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Speaker 3: different stuff in the office, and I noticed that while

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Speaker 3: sound of hangers moving, like on the racks, and every

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Speaker 3: time I would wonder, like, oh my gosh, did somebody

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Speaker 3: come into the store. So I'd always go check. The

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Speaker 3: door would be locked. And it got to the point

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Speaker 3: you know, our the air conditioning vents on? Is the

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Speaker 3: escalator on? Like what is making these hangers make this noise?

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Speaker 3: It bugged me, but you know, I would go check

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Speaker 2: That happened, you know, for like.

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Speaker 3: A month or so, and then I started hearing the

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Speaker 1: I hate a running ghost. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: There's no need for them to be fast.

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Speaker 1: Now, first of all, float Okay, that's the whole point

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. I don't want to experience it. Wait, so,

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Speaker 1: at this point, when you're starting to hear these things,

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Speaker 3: No, we did get there, but at this point I

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Speaker 3: And also it's a mall, Like it's the least haunted

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Speaker 1: Right, Like, have you ever been in a mall when

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Speaker 2: I hope they don't run like this one did, because

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was a mallwalker, did it? Wait? Was it

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Speaker 2: So we had a cash.

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Speaker 3: Wrap in the middle of the store, and we would

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Speaker 3: So one of my employees at this point said, I

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people coming through the mall, maybe

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Speaker 3: And whatever was there obviously didn't like the stage because

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Speaker 1: Hang on. Okay, So this to me sounds like what

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Speaker 1: we call in the biz an intelligent haunting. You know,

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Speaker 1: it certainly seems to have reactions and emotions and can

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Speaker 3: Well, so here's what I think. I think that there

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Speaker 3: This is San Diego, it is not a cold place,

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Speaker 3: I know, I feel kind of silly saying this. Because

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Speaker 3: all these stories, you know, have so much similarity. But

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Speaker 3: it just felt like there's something repetitive and a.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about like this. The thing that I

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Speaker 1: keep thinking is the Harry, like the customer that's like,

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Speaker 1: excuse me and then disappears Like that's so I want

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Speaker 1: does it realize that it's in a lingerie's store?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, six seven women in their early

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is truly like a book. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's like whoever will work in that building

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Speaker 3: I hope, I mean, I hope that it that it stopped.

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Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to have to deal with that

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Speaker 3: Nobody should have to be harassed by customers living or

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Speaker 3: I hope it stopped after we left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, this is a great story. Casey.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to think of, like what we need

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Speaker 1: to call this story the there's got to be a

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Speaker 1: good pot.

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Speaker 2: Put the booze and boobs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, boo the booze and boom, Yeah, boob

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Speaker 1: the case of the Case of the Spooky Boobs, the

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Speaker 1: double D demon from the other side. I've been ghosted too.

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Speaker 1: Hello Brae in California. How are you, Hi, Rad, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good? I was reading this email. You work

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Speaker 1: at a haunted museum.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I work at the Walt Disney Family Museum. It's

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Speaker 4: in the Presidio, which is just like Hella haunted. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's the Presidio in San Francisco. So it's like right

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Speaker 4: by the Golden Gate Bridge. It's a national park now,

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Speaker 4: but it used to.

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Speaker 6: Be like in Civil War times, like old eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 6: And there's even like some Spanish army stuff that was

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Speaker 4: The seventeen hundred, so it has a lot of history.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, So this museum, the Walt Disney Family Museum,

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Speaker 1: it's not is it haunted by the Disney's.

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Speaker 6: No, definitely not, there's no you know, Walt Disney's frozen

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Speaker 4: He was cremated, so and that's out in La So No,

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Speaker 4: that's what people think.

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Speaker 1: They think it's there.

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Speaker 6: We get a lot of questions about yeah, about that.

437
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 6: There's like some chairs, people like is that is that

438
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 6: a coffin? And it's like, no, it's it's just a

439
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 6: chair for you to sit down.

440
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, because I feel like people also think that at Disneyland,

441
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: Walt Disney is frozen somewhere in there, and.

442
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those prevailing myths.

443
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 6: But no, no haunted Walt Disney walking around. My vibe

444
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: is that it's definitely some old like Civil war people

445
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 6: who are just really enjoying having a Walt Disney museum,

446
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 6: you know where they used to live.

447
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean people, I've heard people tell me

448
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: that Disneyland. I mean, I a thousand percent can see

449
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Disneyland being haunted.

450
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: But I've heard stories.

451
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard so many stories, and it's like, just

452
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: imagine all the people that it could that could be

453
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: haunting that place, even if there's like a theory of

454
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: that was my favorite place and now I'm dead and

455
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: like now I want to go to my favorite happy place,

456
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: the happiest place on earth. Maybe that's the thing too.

457
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: So if that's the if that's a thing that happens,

458
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: there's probably so many ghosts. But I've also heard people say,

459
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: like security footage is caught Walt Disney walking around the

460
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: park at night, Like I don't know, maybe Walt Disney

461
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: is there, who knows.

462
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: Who knows, but I know a lot of people.

463
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 6: They had to create some special technology for the haunted

464
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 6: mansion because so many people were pouring ashes in the

465
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 6: run and that became like, you know, a huge problem obviously.

466
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's probably some ghosts who just love taking

467
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 6: a good ride in Disneyland.

468
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure. Okay, So no Disney goes at the museum,

469
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: but it is a haunted museum, so what's going on

470
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: with that.

471
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's definitely like all of the employees there

472
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 6: who've been there for like, you know, ten years or so,

473
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 6: everyone kind of has a story. But most recently we

474
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 6: just have a lot of interactives and we get a

475
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 6: lot of activity, like weird activity and.

476
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 4: And all that.

477
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 6: But most recently with one of our one of our employees.

478
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 6: Was walking through our galleries and there's this thing called

479
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: a movieola, and it's an interactive it's not super technical.

480
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 6: There's just like a screen and there's like a little

481
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 6: wheel and you can spin the wheel and it slips

482
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 6: through the different phases of animation for snow white. And

483
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 6: so if you get the wheel spinning really quickly, it'll

484
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 6: just like keep going and kind of do that slow role.

485
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: But it's not like mechanical, so there's not like a

486
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 6: you know, something mechanics on the inside that will like

487
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: stop it or make it go or anything like that.

488
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 6: And so one of my coworkers was walking through the

489
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 6: galleries and was in this gallery and saw the wheel

490
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 6: just like spinning out of control and there's nobody around,

491
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 6: and so he got his phone out. We actually had

492
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: a video and he started video taping it and the

493
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 6: wheel is just going crazy and then he walks up

494
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 6: to it and without touching it, the wheel just stops

495
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 6: like somebody just like held it. And like in the video,

496
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 6: it totally looks like like somebody really just stopped it,

497
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 6: and having played with it, it's like it doesn't just

498
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 6: stuff like that on its own.

499
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: So he just was like, well, this is kind of weird,

500
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: but I'm just assuming this is a prank. Like someone came,

501
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, and spanned.

502
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 6: The wheel and like ran off like a coworker. And

503
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 6: so he actually went down to our security office and

504
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 6: because they have the videotapes and all of that, and

505
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 6: he was like, let's let's play this back, like I

506
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: really just want to know, like what what happened here?

507
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 6: And sure enough you could see on the security footage

508
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 6: exactly that that it just started spinning just out of

509
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 6: nowhere and then it just stopped, so kind of had

510
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 6: everyone a little creeked out, but it's like, Okay, it's

511
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 6: not it's a fun got someone who like really enjoys animation, So.

512
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. At least it's the fun goes. But

513
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: when you say an elevator like well, speak of dizzy,

514
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: it makes me think of the Tower of Terror. Oh yeah,

515
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: it is one of the scariest things that are done

516
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: in my entire life. But uh, that's the thought of

517
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: being trapped in an elevator with a ghost is I

518
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: can't think of a scarier thing. So what what are

519
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: you talking about? What happens in an elevator?

520
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 6: So we have this one elevator and this like we've

521
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: had elevator technicians come. They can't figure out what is

522
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 6: going on here, and like our facilities team, no one

523
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 6: can figure out what's happening.

524
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: So this is a little unexplained. But in one of

525
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: our elevators, it only goes up one floor. It's like

526
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: a guest elevator for the museum, and.

527
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 6: Like right after the museum closes, it would always be

528
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 6: like laid after like five o'clock, it would start having

529
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: these weird things happen. So it was a conscientious goss

530
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 6: that's what I'm I'm calling it didn't want to run

531
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 6: the guest experience. But the you would press the button

532
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 6: and the doors would start like open really slowly, as

533
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 6: like it kind of looks like they're being like pulled

534
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 6: apart on us, and then they'd slam shut do some

535
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: sort of like like it would kind of do a

536
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: variation of that and over.

537
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: And then the shaking would begin.

538
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: And I have like multiple videos of this because it's

539
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: just like so bizarre. But the doors start making this

540
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: like clamoring sound like.

541
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: But it's they're being pushed.

542
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: So in the videos, like you can see and the

543
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 6: people who were standing by were like the doors are

544
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 6: being pushed forward and backwards, and there's not a there's

545
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 6: not a thing in the elevator functions to do that.

546
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: Like they go, you know, back and forth. They shouldn't,

547
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: you know, one way, like how a regular elevator goes,

548
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 6: like they shouldn't be going the opposite way. So it

549
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 6: definitely like and it's not a rhythmic. It just wasn't

550
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 6: a rhythmic sound like it was catching like a machine,

551
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: you know, like it would be like you know, in

552
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 6: a cycle, and so it would be like.

553
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: Boom boom boom boom boom. You know, it just wasn't

554
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: it wasn't consistent.

555
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: So it really sounded like someone is like pushing on

556
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 6: the doors and just having a fun time. And this

557
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 6: happens all the time and they just cannot figure out

558
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 6: it's always different times, but always in the evening and

559
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 6: it's yeah, it's always just like pushing back and forth.

560
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: It sounds kind of violent, but it's like someone's just

561
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 6: like kind of having a good time in there.

562
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: So are all the ghosts like nice?

563
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think all the ghosts are nice.

564
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 6: We do have like a prankster ghost that it is

565
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: consistently tripping people. So in our like on our top

566
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 6: floor where only staff is allowed, there's just this one

567
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 6: spot where almost every single person that's worked at the

568
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 6: museum has gotten tripped in this particular spot. And it

569
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: feels like like I've gotten tripped there and it just

570
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 6: feels like there's a brick in front of my foot,

571
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: like I didn't trip over my feet.

572
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: There's like in the buildings made of bricks.

573
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: So I don't know if maybe that's a tie in,

574
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 6: but but yeah, it's like I'm tripping over a brick.

575
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 6: And it's in front conference room that has like a

576
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 6: glass wall so you can see when people trip, and

577
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 6: we always.

578
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: Like to like, so, uh, did you trip over your

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 4: own feet? It's all a little clumsy.

580
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 6: Today, and they're like, I don't know what happened, And

581
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 6: usually we're like, okay, So here's a downlow, like there's

582
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 6: a ghost that really likes to trip people in this

583
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: particular spot, Like there's nothing wrong with the ground. I

584
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 6: don't I don't know how to explain that.

585
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: That is so weird.

586
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's just one of those things where I mean,

587
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: at least they're friendly, nothing nothing too crazy. We have

588
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 6: a ghost that will like to likes to turn on

589
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 6: our theater in the middle of the night and scare

590
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: poor security guards and and that that one is like again,

591
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: it's like the theater will just randomly turn on. There's

592
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 6: not one button to like turn on a movie like

593
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 6: our theater is like you know, the curtains come out

594
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 6: and you.

595
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: Have to press the button to get the screen to

596
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: go down.

597
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: I've talked to our av people about this a lot

598
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 6: because I was like, so, what's the deal here, Like

599
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 6: why how could this feasibly happen like with technology, Like,

600
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: you know, is it really you know, I don't always

601
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 6: want it. Them to the conclusion that it's a ghost,

602
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: you know, try to find you know, find a reasonable thing,

603
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 6: and they, you know, they couldn't figure it out either,

604
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 6: how movies were getting played in the middle of the night.

605
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So has anybody ever seen anybody? Or is it

606
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: more this kind of prankster poltageisty kind of stuff.

607
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, no one has ever seen like a figure or

608
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 6: anything like that. And you know that's yeah, they're apparently

609
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 6: in the persidio.

610
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: There is a kind of a famous figure.

611
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: It's like a woman in a black like Spanish dress

612
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 6: that has been seen a lot walking around. They actually

613
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 6: had a Ghost Hunters episode all about her a while back.

614
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: But so I've heard people who see her around just

615
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 6: a presidio in general, but nobody in the museum.

616
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: Has actually seen kind of a figure or anything like that.

617
00:32:53,560 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house, Audrey in Kresno area.

618
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: How are you.

619
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm good, really good.

620
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 7: It's actually a beautiful fall day today, so I'm much

621
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 7: better now.

622
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh. I know, it's starting to feel like a Halloween

623
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: time and I absolutely love it. I was reading the

624
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: story you sent me which involved your daughter, and your

625
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: daughter is with us as well. Hi Hi, Hi, So okay,

626
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: let's hear the story because I found it pretty.

627
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 7: Spooky, crazy, right, Okay, So this was back in twenty twelve.

628
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 5: I had just had a baby.

629
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 7: I think he was about six months old at this time,

630
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 7: so so it's probably anywhere between October November twenty twelve

631
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 7: and the way I had it set up in my apartment.

632
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 5: We had a very small apartment.

633
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 7: And like the living room, dining room, and kitchen all

634
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 7: were in the same room, and then on the opposite

635
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 7: side of the apartment was like a Jack and Jill

636
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 7: bathroom with bedrooms on each side, and my kids shared

637
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 7: a room Joelane and my baby Limb, and then we

638
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: were in obviously the opposite bedroom, and I had baby

639
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 7: monitors in both rooms. And Jolene had been telling us

640
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 7: for a while that she has this little blue boy

641
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 7: friend and that he was really nice and they would

642
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 7: play together, and.

643
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: I would hear her talking in her room and be like,

644
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: who are you talking to? Oh, it's a little blue boy.

645
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 7: Or she'll be looking at the closet two and a

646
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 7: half years old talking.

647
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 5: And I'm like, who are you talking to? And it's

648
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 5: a little blue boy.

649
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 7: And so me and my family just summed it up

650
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 7: as she's excited for having a little brother, or you know,

651
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 7: kids are a little.

652
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 5: Imaginative, So I thought maybe that's all that was. Well.

653
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 5: This particular night we were in bed.

654
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 7: I had just gotten my son to really start sleeping

655
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 7: throughout the nights. So I don't know if you've ever

656
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 7: been around little babies, but if you wake them longs,

657
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 7: we'll just kill you, like, don't wake the baby, whatever

658
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 7: you do. So it was like eight thirty at night,

659
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 7: We're all laying down and I can hear on the

660
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 7: baby monitor the crib like rocking like I hear like,

661
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 7: and I'm listening, getting ready to go get on to

662
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 7: my daughter, thinking she's messing with the baby.

663
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 5: But I keep listening and.

664
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 7: I hear drilling over the monitor like ohoh, sleepy, stop

665
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 7: it the heck who's she talking to?

666
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 5: And so I wake my EGX and I'm.

667
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: Like, listen to this.

668
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 5: Listen, she's like talking to somebody.

669
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 7: And then you hear the cribs start shaking aga he's

670
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 7: going on, and you hear jelling like, seriously, stop it,

671
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 7: leave them alone, Like it's like, leave them alone. And

672
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 7: so we're listening and we're listening, and it keeps happening.

673
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 7: This crib keeps like shaking, and then she's telling it

674
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 7: to stop keep shaking.

675
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 5: And I'm getting nervous now, like, oh my god, is

676
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 5: there somebody else in the room, or you know, what

677
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: the heck is it? I just really didn't know what

678
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 5: to think. And then really, really faintly, you hear, my god,

679
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 5: no hell is that? So then I jump up, like

680
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 5: literally the hair on the back of my neck was

681
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 5: standing up. I run in the room. I flicked the

682
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: light on.

683
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 7: At this point, my son is still perfectly sleeping, and

684
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 7: Joline looks at me, really startled because she thinks she's

685
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 7: getting in trouble and I'm like.

686
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: Who are you talking to?

687
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: What? Who was that? And she's like, oh, it's a

688
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: little blue.

689
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 7: Boy and like like jesturing towards the closet, and I'm

690
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 7: like a little little blue boy, like he's in here now,

691
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 7: and she's like gesturing towards the closet.

692
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 5: So my ex goes and looks through the closet and

693
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 5: I'm like talking to her, like, who who's this little

694
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 5: blue blue, little blue boy And.

695
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 7: She's like, you know, like the same little blue boy

696
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 7: that I've been playing with her now it's this kid.

697
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: So then at that point, because my ex is always like, oh,

698
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: you guys are being dramatic.

699
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 7: Or whatever whatever, but there was just something how descriptive

700
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 7: she was about this little.

701
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 5: Blue boy or how much she was playing.

702
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 7: With this little blue boy, that I just knew something

703
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 7: about her story. There was some authenticity to it that

704
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 7: I just knew something was real.

705
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: It wasn't more than just being imagined too well.

706
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 7: And hearing that voice, yeah, like it was so quiet,

707
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: but my god, just like that.

708
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: That is from a horror movie. I'm sorry, but like

709
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: over a baby monitor hearing like somebody in your child's room.

710
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 7: Yes, and not to mention, it's like Jack and Jill

711
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 7: like I should be able to hear obviously I have

712
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 7: the monitors, but I should be able to hear someone's

713
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 7: coming in or whatever because they're right there.

714
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: We were right next to the front door.

715
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 5: To right, so that is another thing too.

716
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 7: It just sounded like, oh my god, either someone's coming

717
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 7: in or I don't know. I just didn't go straight

718
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 7: to ghost. That really wasn't my first thought until we

719
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 7: got in the room and.

720
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: Nobody was there. They re sting in the closet. She

721
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 5: just looked at me like, hey, sorry, sorry, we woke you.

722
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: Me and my friend playing.

723
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Do you have any any recollection or like do you

724
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: remember the Blue Boy?

725
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 5: Not really, not really at all.

726
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 7: No, No, yeah, we have a lot more stories too, like, okay,

727
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: so in the four years that we lived there, this

728
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 7: was probably within the that was the first year we

729
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 7: lived there, within that first year, and after that happened,

730
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 7: it was like it was like they knew, we knew,

731
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 7: and everything just kind of started getting more crazier and

732
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 7: like I had friends that would come over and get

733
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 7: their hair pulled while we're sitting on the couch, and

734
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 7: it wasn't like they would get a pull and pull

735
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 7: your head back. It was like it was like they'd

736
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 7: pinch with just their fingers and just slightly pooled, so

737
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 7: it was almost like you touched the back of your

738
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 7: head kind of turn around, look around like that did

739
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 7: that just really happen?

740
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: And then over time it just kept.

741
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: Happening, just so many people that were coming over that

742
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 7: people were going did you.

743
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 5: Hear your hair pool too? Or did you hear that?

744
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: Or did you see this?

745
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 7: Or I would have some friends that would just know,

746
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 7: like if anything happens, like oh, this is Audrey's apartment.

747
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: This is just how it happened. And then I'd have

748
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 5: some friends who are like.

749
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 7: Hell, no, we'll come over for a barbecue, but as

750
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 7: soon as it hits nighttime, we're out, Like we're.

751
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: Not sleeping in your apartment anymore.

752
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 7: Another thing that would happen is the doors in my kitchen.

753
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 7: The kitchen cabinets would open, and it would start it

754
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 7: with just like the salt and pepper shaker door was

755
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 7: left open, or just the cups cabinet door was left open.

756
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 7: So I thought maybe it was my ex you did it?

757
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 7: You know, just getting something to dream and not closing it.

758
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 7: And I would con instantly be yelling at him. And

759
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 7: then the next morning like how hard is it to

760
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 7: close the cabinet door?

761
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 5: Like just keep the doors closed. And then one morning.

762
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 7: I knew for sure I had closed all these damn

763
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 7: cabinet doors. I oh, yeah, anyways, so I closed all

764
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 7: the cabinet doors. I knew they were closed because I

765
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 7: did it. And then the next morning, all of the

766
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 7: stinking cabinet doors are open. No, not one, not two,

767
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 7: not three, every stinking cabin down. Even so we had

768
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 7: like the bottom cabinets a bar area and then around

769
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 7: about cabinet on top for like cups and sware or

770
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 7: i'm sorry, tubleware.

771
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 5: And things like that. Every cabinet in the kitchen was open.

772
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: And I remember standing there like, oh, oh okay, I

773
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: see this isn't it was not human, this is something else.

774
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 5: This is way different.

775
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. The kids wouldn't be able to do like way

776
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: up high or anything like that.

777
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were.

778
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 7: My son was an infant, and Joline she was a toddler,

779
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 7: just running around.

780
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: At my hit side.

781
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 7: But no, they't yeah no. And I remember standing there

782
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 7: looking at it. Like especially that morning, like, oh, okay,

783
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 7: so this is definitely different.

784
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: It's definitely haunted.

785
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 7: And we lived in the way these apartments were set up.

786
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 7: There were more like townhouses, so it was like a

787
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 7: two bedroom, a three bedroom, and a four bedroom townhouses.

788
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: They were all like smushed together, if that makes sense.

789
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 7: There were like blocks of different townhouse apartments, and I

790
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 7: had a couple different neighbors tell me that they were

791
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 7: having weird, suspicious things going on at their place. I

792
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 7: had one of my best best friends, I've known her

793
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 7: since I was thirteen. She lived across the apartments in

794
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 7: her own little townhouse, and she was telling me about

795
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 7: one night her she she was like pushed down, like quietly,

796
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 7: like started to explain. It's called sleep sleep paralysis, where

797
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 7: you're like pushed down even though there's not someone physically

798
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 7: there pushing you down. You don't see anybody, but you

799
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 7: can't move, you can't talk. You're trying to scream. She

800
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 7: said she was trying to wake up her her husband

801
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 7: who was there, her ex husband, and she couldn't move

802
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 7: and she was like.

803
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: Like trying to scream and it just wouldn't come out.

804
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 7: And she just got through telling me this story, and

805
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 7: I'm We're like going back and forth telling.

806
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 5: Each other our own growth stories in our apartment.

807
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 7: Like maybe a couple weeks after that hurts telling me

808
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 7: this story. I wake up one night to the so

809
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 7: my bed was up, like it was along with my closet,

810
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 7: so like if I was laying down and I was

811
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 7: staring at the.

812
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: Wall, the wall was my closet. That makes sense, Okay.

813
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 7: So I was sleeping and I heard my hangers like dangling,

814
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 7: as if somebody had just ran their hand along ran

815
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 7: their hand along it, and it was like clink clinkling, think.

816
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: And so when I opened my eyes, and I don't know,

817
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 7: like something like that really you think would not wake

818
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 7: you up, but for whatever reason, it did, and I

819
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 7: saw the hanger swing. And when you're asleep like that

820
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 7: and you just wake up, it takes you a couple

821
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 7: of minutes.

822
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: To realize what you're looking at.

823
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 7: So I was laying there staring at the hangers, like

824
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 7: is this is this real? And it was definitely real,

825
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 7: And out of the corner of my eye, I could

826
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 7: see this old lady Okay.

827
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 8: Side though I used to tell my mom all the

828
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 8: time about my blue Boy's grundandmother. She was very mean,

829
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 8: like I remember telling her all the time, like he

830
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 8: doesn't she doesn't let us play together all the time anymore,

831
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 8: and stuff like that.

832
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like.

833
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: A grumpy old grandma.

834
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 5: Yes.

835
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, So she was standing at the end of my

836
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 7: bed and out of the corner of my eye, like

837
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 7: I could see her as if I'm staring at my

838
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 7: daughter right now, like I could. She wasn't mystical or

839
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 7: see through or she looked gray and scraggly, like there

840
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 7: was like black.

841
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: Pieces in her hair, but it was mostly gray.

842
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 7: And she had really deep, sunken dead eyes like you

843
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 7: could and not deadlight because she's a ghost.

844
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: It was dead like. She just looked miserable. She didn't

845
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: look happy at all. She looked very angry.

846
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 7: And I yeah at that point, and I'm not the

847
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 7: kind of person who just will scream when I get scared.

848
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 7: I get really quiet, and I almost freeze, like I don't.

849
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: Know what to do.

850
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 7: I just I can't believe this is even happening. And

851
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 7: I remember doing the same thing.

852
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 5: That my friend had just told me about.

853
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 7: About wanting to turn over and grab my my ex

854
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 7: husband at the time, like.

855
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, like, do youse say this lady?

856
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 7: And I couldn't move, So I'm just staring at her

857
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 7: like tears are rolling down my face.

858
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: I'm trying to scream.

859
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 7: My whole buddy's hot, and I'm like sweating because I'm terrified,

860
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 7: and I'm looking at the bottom of my bed at

861
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 7: this psychle lady staring at me like I won't want

862
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 7: to kill.

863
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 5: You, knowing damn well, she's not really there.

864
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 7: And finally, like it's like it spews out of me

865
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 7: and I start screaming, and my ex jumped up tremble

866
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 7: light on and my dude, we always said good the

867
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 7: night light on always, so it wasn't.

868
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 5: The room wasn't extremely dark, like there was a nightlight on.

869
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: I know what I saw. I know it was there.

870
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 7: And the minute featured the overhead light on to the bedroom,

871
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 7: she was gone, absolutely gone.

872
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: Was she going through your closet looking for outfits or

873
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: what was she doing?

874
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 7: I have not She's like one hundred and fifty years old.

875
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. So did your ex believe this

876
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: at any points?

877
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

878
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 7: So he had his own little teeny tiny experience. He

879
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 7: did not believe anything we told him. He's so AMPI

880
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 7: ghostly crazy. There was nothing there. Yeah, he's obviously still

881
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 7: because we've been we can relate to some of these

882
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: ghost stories and we're super into paranormal and haunted shows

883
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 7: and things like this. Yeah, but he did have an experience,

884
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 7: whether he wants to admit it or not. In the

885
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 7: same room Joelane and Liam's room. My son was sleeping

886
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 7: in there and I think me and Joelane were shopping there.

887
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 7: We weren't home, and his dad had come over and

888
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 7: the door was shut to the bedroom and he was

889
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 7: sitting on the couch and his dad came in and

890
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 7: they were sitting in the living room talking and you

891
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 7: can hear the door knock, jiggle, google and his dad.

892
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: Says, oh, do you hear that? What is that?

893
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 7: And my ex I'm pretty sure is having his own experiences.

894
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 7: He's just choosing to ignore them. So he might hear something,

895
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 7: see something and he's like, oh, that's the wind, like

896
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 7: I don't, I don't know what that was. But this

897
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 7: time he couldn't do.

898
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 5: That because his dad is going, oh, did you did

899
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: you hear that?

900
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 7: And so of course he's like, yeah, I did, And

901
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 7: so his dad gets up and goes towards the door

902
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 7: and he can see the door knob jiggling, and he was.

903
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 5: Just like, oh, yeah, that that happened, like that was crazy.

904
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 7: But he still to this day will be like, oh,

905
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 7: you girls are nuts.

906
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: You're so dramatic.

907
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, crazy, And we might be a little dramatic, but

908
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: it's real.

909
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: I can relate. So you guys ended up leaving.

910
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 5: He ended up coming up to the mountains.

911
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: And so what did you so the conclusion as there

912
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: was an old lady and a little boy maybe, oh, oh,

913
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: the little boy.

914
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 5: I saw the little boy too.

915
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 7: I saw the old lady that night and she was

916
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 7: like crazy, hell she was doing to me that night,

917
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 7: but it was really scary. But the little boy, blue boy,

918
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 7: that one was a little more interesting because he didn't

919
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 7: attack me at all. But I have been sleeping, obviously

920
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 7: away from the closet, and now I'm sleeping by the

921
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 7: bedroom door. And the weird thing too with spirits, and

922
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 7: you've probably heard this before, is literally nothing could be happening,

923
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 7: and for whatever.

924
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 5: Reason, you'd just wake up.

925
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 7: It'll be two thirty in the morning, for whatever reason,

926
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 7: you can feel something staring at you when you wake up.

927
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 7: And so I woke up. I have no idea what

928
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 7: time it is. It's really late. And I in the

929
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 7: corner of my bedroom, I had a window and like

930
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 7: a ledge and then in the corner there was nothing

931
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 7: in that corner, and then my dress around some on

932
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 7: the opposite side. So the dresser almost did a shadow

933
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 7: at night in that corner because of the night light.

934
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 5: I was using.

935
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 7: Was it was an old antique dresser and they had

936
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 7: the lights already built into the dresser.

937
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 5: So that was our nightlight. And in the corner.

938
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 7: You could just see that there was more masks to

939
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 7: the corner than just a shadow, like you could see

940
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 7: that it was dark. And I remember looking that way

941
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 7: and it was like you could see that there was

942
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 7: an extra mass. It was just they had more to it.

943
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 7: And as I'm staring at it, the little he was

944
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 7: hunched down with his head on his knees, and as

945
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 7: I'm staring at him, he lifted his head up.

946
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: No, this is all horror movie stuff right here.

947
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 7: That's why we liked horror movies and things because people

948
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 7: don't believe it.

949
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 5: But most of these movies.

950
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 7: And shows and podcasts that people are so interested in,

951
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 7: people who actually have dealt with these hauntings totally relate

952
00:49:59,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 7: to that.

953
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: They were like, oh, yeah, totally know what that feels like.

954
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's all based on something.

955
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's and people think like, oh, I don't

956
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 7: like that scary stuff because it's just scary, Like no, yeah,

957
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 7: some of these scary things are actually. But anyway, so

958
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 7: when I was looking at I was I saw the

959
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 7: little boy. He looked up at me, and he was

960
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 7: almost startled that I saw him that I was.

961
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 5: Looking at him.

962
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 7: So we both kind of looked at each other like

963
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: I can't believe I'm looking at you, and he's looking

964
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 7: at me like I can't believe.

965
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 5: You see me. And we just got like that for

966
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: a minute. And because at this point, I'm really tired.

967
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: I was getting irritated with all the ghost things that

968
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 7: were happening with the keminic doors and door knobs and

969
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 7: waking up my kids and pulling my friend's.

970
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 5: Bears and nobody wants to hang out of my house

971
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 5: and it's on.

972
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 7: So I'm looking at it and I go, no, I'm

973
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 7: not We're not doing this.

974
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 5: I'm tired, leave me alone. I'm not doing this.

975
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 7: And I just went back to like I was just

976
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 7: I'm not doing it sleeping. I never seen him again,

977
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 7: he never I never seen anything after.

978
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: That for him, with him, with him being surprised by you.

979
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: It could even be one of those situations where he

980
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: thinks you're the ghost. Like it could be I've heard

981
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: I hear these stories sometimes and there's a famous.

982
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 5: Movie, like a individual haunting.

983
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: Thing well where it's they're still living in their world

984
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, who is that lady that sleeps in

985
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: the you know, grandma's bedroom. Yes exactly, yes, exactly. I

986
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: never want to say the movie because it's a spoiler,

987
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: even though it's twenty years old. But yeah, there's a

988
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: famous movie like that. So I don't know, that's.

989
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 5: A really good.

990
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 7: Good I never thought of it like that too.

991
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: So Risa and North Carolina, Hello, how are you?

992
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 5: I'm good? Ross?

993
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: How are you so good? I feel like you've got

994
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot of stories I have.

995
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 9: I have a little bit.

996
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: Well where do we start?

997
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 10: We can start, I guess from when I was a

998
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 10: kid in Hawaii. Okay, okay, So in Hawaii, my mom

999
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 10: and my stepdad, So my stepdad was military and we

1000
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 10: lived on like Hawahu in a military base, and so

1001
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 10: I distinctly remember I guess when you're military, sometimes you're

1002
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 10: on duty and stuff, and the duty you have to

1003
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 10: like work twenty four hours.

1004
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 9: And I remember being in my room one night, and we.

1005
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 10: Lived in like these older, like military houses, and I

1006
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 10: remember hearing the door open downstairs.

1007
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 9: When he I guess, I guess he had come home.

1008
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 10: And I figured out figured it was him because I

1009
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 10: heard like the military boots, like it has like a

1010
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 10: distinct sound of like walking, and it.

1011
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 9: Sounded like him.

1012
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 10: And I heard it go from like the front door

1013
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 10: to like the kitchen, and I heard like rattling, and

1014
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 10: then I heard it come up the stairs slowly and

1015
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 10: then yes, and then when you got to the top

1016
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 10: of the stairs, like directly across from the stairs was

1017
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 10: like my appearents, you know, my mom and my stepdad's room,

1018
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 10: and immediately to the right was my little sister's room,

1019
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 10: and her room would face like there's a window that

1020
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 10: would face out to like outside of the house. You

1021
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 10: could see like the carboard and stuff down there. And

1022
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 10: down the hall was my room and my little brother's room.

1023
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 10: And I heard him come up the stairs and I

1024
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 10: heard him walking towards my room, and then I heard

1025
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 10: it just like it stopped, and then it sounded like

1026
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 10: he kind of did like a right face or whatever

1027
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 10: direction he went, I don't know, and go into I

1028
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,240
Speaker 10: guess his room.

1029
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 9: And I thought that was weird.

1030
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 10: And I don't know why I decided to do this,

1031
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 10: but I went out and I kind of like tiptoed

1032
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 10: over to my little sister's room, which faces outside, and

1033
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 10: I looked down and he has this really distinct purple truck.

1034
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 9: It's like a shabby purple truck. And it wasn't there.

1035
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Okay, how old are you?

1036
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 9: I am thirty?

1037
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry in the story, oh in this story.

1038
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1039
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 9: I was probably like, oh, it was probably eight, eight

1040
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 9: or nine.

1041
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: Hey, you decided to tiptoe and investigate. I feel like

1042
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: that when you watch a horror movie and you're like, who,

1043
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: no one would go out there if they heard so much.

1044
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 10: I'm probably that person. If you hear a noise, I'm like, hello,

1045
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 10: who's there?

1046
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: Wow? You are so much braver at eight than I

1047
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: am currently.

1048
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 10: Well, when I figured out that it wasn't his truck,

1049
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 10: I was like, oh no, and I tried to quickly

1050
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 10: quietly run back to my room hide under the covers.

1051
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 10: I don't know who that.

1052
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 9: I don't know if it was like a ghost or

1053
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 9: if my mom might have been doing something as she

1054
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 9: wanted post to be done. But I'm asting it as

1055
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 9: a ghost.

1056
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: What were there other things happening there?

1057
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 10: There were there were a few things that happened. And see,

1058
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 10: I think what made it more significant is earlier that week.

1059
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 10: I remember we went to Pro Harbor to like, I guess,

1060
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 10: do a visit and tour, I guess. And it's a

1061
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 10: very like ominous place, kind of like when you go

1062
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 10: to Ground zero in New York. It's very ominous. And

1063
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 10: I don't know, like maybe something followed as home or what.

1064
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 10: But you know, we've had that. I've had experiences where

1065
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 10: people have knocked on the door and nobody was there,

1066
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 10: and then, you know, I'm like nine years old, I

1067
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 10: answered it.

1068
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 9: I don't know who it is, so I don't know

1069
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 9: who I let in.

1070
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 10: Oh no, yes, And then you know, I've had experiences

1071
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 10: here in North Carolina, you know, at you know, when

1072
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 10: I was in college, I went to UNC Pembroke, and

1073
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 10: I used to work at like the little Starbucks they

1074
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 10: have there, and oh my god, I remember it was

1075
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 10: like labor new weekend or something and we had to

1076
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 10: work overnight or overnight it was midward night, and like

1077
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 10: we closed at ten.

1078
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 9: I don't understand why because nobody was there.

1079
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 10: And I remember we had to bring all their stuff

1080
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 10: back to like the main cafeteria and it was dark

1081
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 10: and there were some lights on, and we were in

1082
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 10: the back of the cafeteria and there was like a

1083
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 10: little window that kind of you could see out into

1084
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 10: the dining room. And I saw a man walking into

1085
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 10: the formal dining room where like the chancellors and stuff eat.

1086
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 10: And it didn't register me until he left that he

1087
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 10: didn't have a bottom half.

1088
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, yes, where was the bottom half?

1089
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 9: I have no light? Probably in the chancellor's dining room.

1090
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need this.

1091
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 9: He's like yeah, He's like, I just need the lap

1092
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 9: half to eat.

1093
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: Wait?

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00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: But was did he love see through and ghosty from

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: the top half up?

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Speaker 5: Kind of? Yeah?

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00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 10: He looked kind of like this pale guy. And I

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00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 10: didn't And I guess because it was dark, it didn't

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 10: really register.

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00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 5: With me that it was a ghost until I realized.

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00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 9: Like that nobody should be there right now?

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: Oh no, yes, had.

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00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Other people seen things like that around there, yes.

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 9: And it's insane.

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00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 10: And it's like, so Pembroke is like in a town

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00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 10: where the majority of the people there are lumby Indians, so's.

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00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 9: There's like a lot of like ghosty stuff that happens there.

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00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 10: And I mean, I've that's the only thing I've experienced

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00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 10: in Pembroke as far as I can remember, but you know,

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 10: I've had a lot of other like experiences as well,

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00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 10: like all around.

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 9: I don't know why.

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 10: I feel like I'm kind of like I want to

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 10: see it, but though when I see it, I don't

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00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 10: believe it until after the fact.

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Speaker 1: So, okay, tell me about these premonitions.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, Okay.

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 10: So my mom she's just like four foot eleven Filipino

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 10: firecracker of a lady, and she would always tell me growing.

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 9: Up, I'm psychic. I am psychic, blah blah blah, I

1122
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 9: can do this second and pict blah blah blah.

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00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 10: Okay, So like she you know, she would always like

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 10: she predicted that one of my friends, uh would get

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Speaker 10: pregnant and then have a baby at like this, like

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 10: sometime when we were in high school and it happened,

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 10: and so.

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Speaker 9: She was like, yeah, you have been gift.

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 5: You haven't.

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 9: You just need to consent threat. And I'm like, you

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 9: know whatever, Mom's I don't. I don't know. I don't

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 9: really believe you.

1133
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 10: And I've just noticed a lot here in the last

1134
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 10: like couple of years that I have seen, like I

1135
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 10: can predict things and I chalk it up. Is like

1136
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 10: when it happens when I think it, I'm like, no,

1137
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 10: that's stupid. Why would I think that? And then it happened.

1138
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 10: So like an example is a I was at of

1139
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 10: work one day and I came back the next day

1140
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 10: and uh, I saw the elevator had.

1141
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 9: An out of order sign.

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00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 10: And immediately in my head, I was like, Diana was

1143
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 10: in there and she got stuck and it fell.

1144
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 9: And I was like, that's horrible. Why would I think

1145
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 9: that about her? It's so mean.

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00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 10: And so then I got to my desk and I'm

1147
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 10: like type of la da da da da. And Diana

1148
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 10: comes in and she's like, Terrissa, you missed it yesterday.

1149
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 10: I got I was in the elevator. Did you see

1150
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 10: how to order sign?

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 9: I was like yeah, She's like I got in there

1152
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 9: and I got stuck and it fell.

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00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: Weird.

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 9: Yes, it was so weird. And then this other time,

1155
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 9: this really significant time.

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00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 10: I remember I was in my living room and I

1157
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 10: was just like I was kind of just chilling on

1158
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 10: the couch.

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00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 5: You know.

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 10: It was a long day, and the kids are like

1161
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 10: doing their own thing, and I'm just sitting there and

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00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 10: I'm like just like whatever, and I feel like a

1163
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 10: finger or a cockroach or something.

1164
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: More terrifying.

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 10: I don't know either, but like it was significant enough

1166
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 10: where I could feel my hair moved and like it

1167
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 10: like it honestly, it just felt like it's like you

1168
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 10: had that child come over you, and like it felt

1169
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 10: like legit. Somebody touched me with their finger and like

1170
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 10: right under my ear, like on my neck.

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 9: And I jumped up like think in my neck like

1172
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 9: who was that? Oh my god? And my phone fell

1173
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 9: out of my lap.

1174
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 10: And as soon as my phone fell I got a

1175
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 10: message from my auntie and she was like trying to

1176
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 10: text me.

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01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 9: She's like, Aisha, something happened with your mom. You need

1178
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 9: prom up to the hospital.

1179
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 10: So I go to the hospital and apparently my mom

1180
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 10: and my other auntie fell a little tipsy and they

1181
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 10: got into a little argument, and the other auntie kind

1182
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 10: of went like I ray her that my mom feels

1183
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 10: like a demon myself over her and the and like

1184
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 10: my auntie like bit my mom's finger. What yes, And

1185
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 10: she needed to get stitches and stuff, but like there

1186
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 10: was a lot of blood and they had to give her.

1187
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 9: Anything like a shot for something.

1188
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 10: But yeah, like they got into it, like my mom

1189
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 10: was trying to like fight her off and then she

1190
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 10: like bit her finger like super hard.

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01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Whoa. So, how do you explain your you know, premonition

1192
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: or whatever that is? Like what do you what do

1193
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: you think? I mean?

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01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 10: I feel like so like my mom's always like, yeah,

1195
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 10: you're psychic or psychic, and I'm like I just like

1196
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 10: I'm like I don't think so. And I've had like

1197
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 10: psychic readings done, and I've had like tarot card reading,

1198
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 10: and every one of those people have told me that

1199
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 10: they can tell I'm as sensitive.

1200
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 9: And I'm like, is this like a gimmick that y'all

1201
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 9: tell everybody?

1202
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: Like that's what they always tell me too. It's like, yeah,

1203
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if they tell everyone. But I'm also

1204
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: like I think they can tell that I'm not, that

1205
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm not as good as them, because then they'd be

1206
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: afraid I would take all their business. So I feel

1207
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: like they're just like, you got some skills, but you're

1208
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: not that good at it.

1209
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Like they're like, oh yeah, you're you know, you're

1210
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 10: sensitive and it's you know, you allow me to work

1211
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 10: with you.

1212
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 9: We can probably stand into it more. And I'm like, god,

1213
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 9: I've got time for that.

1214
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I know. I've got, like I have Rosetta

1215
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: Stone over here. I'm trying to learn work on my Spanish.

1216
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: I've got I've got guitars in this house that I

1217
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: don't know how to play. Like, I got other things

1218
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: to worry about right now that I'm not I'm not

1219
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to predict the future right now.

1220
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 9: Yes, like I just I don't have I got too

1221
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 9: much going on.

1222
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah wow, well hey can I uh play you a

1223
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: ghost voice?

1224
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: Yes? Please?

1225
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 10: Yes, you know it.

1226
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 9: I'm so excited.

1227
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or e vase. Yes, I hear

1228
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I hear an EVP behind you.

1229
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 9: It's my son.

1230
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 10: He's three and he has we Actually he just actually

1231
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 10: got buying us with auxism. But he loves shouting and

1232
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 10: watching things on repeat.

1233
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 9: I'm telling you I have he watches Hamilton. Oh he

1234
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 9: loves him.

1235
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 10: See he loves the girls and handled the Skyler sisters

1236
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 10: like he'll watch uh Eliza, she He'll watch her over

1237
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 10: and over again.

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01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, ladies, man, oh cute. Well, hopefully you'll

1239
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: be able to hear this. Uh the EVP I found Okay,

1240
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: I went to YouTube. I found this one. It was

1241
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: posted by p I T of CT, which I believe

1242
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: is Connecticut, and it just says that it's at a

1243
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: client's house. So I'm assuming this is a paranormal investigation

1244
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: team in Connecticut. They're at a client's house. I will

1245
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: say that they did say in the description that this

1246
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: is what they think. You know, they said it sounds

1247
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: like it's saying this, so they're not like super set

1248
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: in Stone. But what they think it sounds like will

1249
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: be the correct answer. So all right, tell me what

1250
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: you think this sounds like. All right, here we go.

1251
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 5: Again.

1252
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: I know it's pretty quiet. Let me try it again.

1253
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 9: Something about my family?

1254
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1255
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wait, that's okay, hang on one second, let

1256
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: me play it again. It's so weird because I heard

1257
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: something like that, and then I didn't, and then I

1258
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: played it again a couple of times and I heard

1259
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: something completely different, and now I hear it again. Okay,

1260
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: so here's some options. Is that A please don't record me?

1261
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Is it b feast or famine? Is it C? Is

1262
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: that your family? Or D? This is real corny? All right,

1263
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: let me play it again.

1264
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 9: Okay, is this your family?

1265
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 4: Is?

1266
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: That's what I think? Well, they said they think it

1267
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: sounds like is that your family? But I think it

1268
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: sounds like is this your family? Let me play it

1269
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 1: one more? Okay, I mean I hear that.

1270
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 9: She sounds really like she's like, is this your family?

1271
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 9: Like so rude.

1272
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: I know she's like, this is your family? Really?

1273
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 9: Okay, it's probably talking about my kids right now? Is

1274
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 9: this your family? Seriously?

1275
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just like a really bitchy Connecticut lady.

1276
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: Just so stuck up.

1277
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, well Charissa, Yes, this is great.

1278
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: Thank you so much us.

1279
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 9: I'm so happy I got to do this.

1280
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much to Casey, Brie, Audrey, Jolene,

1281
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: and Sarissa. And it is always If you want to

1282
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: hear a little bit more, you can hear some from

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01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:10,280
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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,560
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Speaker 1: post about the show. I want this show to be

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: all over people's ears this Halloween season. So I love

1287
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: an Instagram story, I love a tweet. I love just

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, telling your coworker, your friend. I appreciate it

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Speaker 1: so much when you guys tell people about this little

1290
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: old show I work on all year round. So thank you, guys.

1291
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Speaker 1: You're always so supportive. If you want to see me

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Speaker 1: live in La you can see me October twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: at Casita del Campo. There's tickets in the description of

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: this episode. Also follow me on Instagram at roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: it on the show. Guys, We're back next week with

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite people, Michelle Belle and Jay. We

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01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: have got a two part conversation coming up with her

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Speaker 1: and Michelle is. I mean, go back and listen to

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01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: the first time Michelle was on a couple months ago

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: if you haven't heard it. But Michelle is just a

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Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge and we really get into the occult

1308
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: and its relationship to the paranormal. So look out for that.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 7: Hey back.

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Speaker 9: Star Bands are a podcast

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Speaker 1: A podcast network MMM