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Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh. That's Chuck. How you doing, Chuck?
Speaker 1: I'm great, man. Let's just stop right here, Chuck, We've
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Speaker 1: Jerry was a huge part of it, agreed, our producer, Jerry.
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Speaker 1: always saying I can't believe your podcasts are free. Well,
Speaker 1: we took your advice, so yeah, thanks for that. Hopefully
Speaker 1: this will allow us to keep doing what we do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's have we reached the end of the shameless plug.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go buy it, that would
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Speaker 1: So that now we've reached them the same as yes,
Speaker 1: and it's time to get into your shameless segue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is this? Have you ever mountain climbed? I know
Speaker 1: you've repelled, but where you ever on a mountain to
Speaker 1: repel mine was one must climb? Now, I've never actually
Speaker 1: rock climbed, but I've done plenty of hiking in the mountains,
Speaker 1: but not rock face climbing. That's was there snow in
Speaker 1: any of these mountains? Were you up so high that
Speaker 1: there's like perennial snow. Really yeah, where like Colorado stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Huh wow, that's pretty impressive. That was shocking.
Speaker 1: I see you like wearing your little shorts and hiking
Speaker 1: boots with like thick socks kind of pushed down. Um,
Speaker 1: so far, so good. Yeah, and just kind of hiking
Speaker 1: along what most people would call like a hill or
Speaker 1: something like that. Certainly not like where there's like kenne
Speaker 1: Saw Mountain kind of yeah, which is I can't say
Speaker 1: anything because it's way out of my league. Kenna Saw
Speaker 1: Mountain is let alone the Rockies. I mean, trust me, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not You won't think I'm a sharpa like scaling
Speaker 1: the mount Everest or anything like that. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think at this point I can tell you left untoward
Speaker 1: behind and sharpa is now my favorite word right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I love that word. It just rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 1: You're cute little guys. Yeah, agreed, Um, okay, So you
Speaker 1: have done some mountain climbing, so so you can speak
Speaker 1: to what we're going to talk about with reasonable authority.
Speaker 1: I can defer to you when I get confused, inevitably, So, Chuck,
Speaker 1: have you ever read into thin air? I have not,
Speaker 1: but I did read Into the Wild, which is John
Speaker 1: hour That his name, yeah, John crack Our. He is
Speaker 1: a journalist for Outside magazine, and he knows how to
Speaker 1: take an outdoor UM event and turn it into a
Speaker 1: good book. Into the Wild is a great example. Chris McCandless,
Speaker 1: who actually went to school down the road at Emery
Speaker 1: and decided that he was going to go to Alaska
Speaker 1: and basically just didn't quite do it right. Yeah, died
Speaker 1: after three months of exposure the elements. I think there's
Speaker 1: some varying theories on why I died, but that's not
Speaker 1: what this is about. Okay, Well, no, we're thin Air.
Speaker 1: Into thin Air is much much more pertinent to this
Speaker 1: topic than I think. Okay, So, Um, that's actually about
Speaker 1: an an expedition on Mount Everest, um and that took
Speaker 1: place in May. He was actually on this one, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was, UM, which is one of the reasons the
Speaker 1: book is so incredible. UM. And it was a complete
Speaker 1: cluster of a um of an expedition. Eight people died,
Speaker 1: accounting for um more than half of the deaths on
Speaker 1: Everest that year. It's one expedition. UM. There was a
Speaker 1: rogue storm that whipped up and it killed some people
Speaker 1: and others were lost and then they died, but then
Speaker 1: other people went after them to try to rescue him,
Speaker 1: and then they died. And it was just more like
Speaker 1: a let's get out of here whenever we can. You
Speaker 1: basically just have to write everybody off right, um. And
Speaker 1: and like, like I said, it's a very very good book. Um.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I took from it
Speaker 1: is that number one, Mount Everest is a total bear
Speaker 1: as far as mountains go, completely inhospitable for humans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about you want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about Everest. Yeah, I guess we should get it.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of stats out of the way. Everyone
Speaker 1: knows just the tallest peak in the world. They call
Speaker 1: it the roof top of the world they do, and
Speaker 1: good reason. Quick aside, um, there is a Discovery micro
Speaker 1: site on Everest and it has a three hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty degree panoramic view. You shall remember you show me
Speaker 1: that like my first week here. It's amazing. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, that is awesome. And this
Speaker 1: Josh dude has it going on. That's all it takes.
Speaker 1: That's how I've collected all of my friends. That's how
Speaker 1: the magic starts. You send him the Everest photo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I pay it out a little bit at
Speaker 1: a time. Start with the Everest photo. It's really cool.
Speaker 1: You're sitting up at night. You actually feel like you're
Speaker 1: there when you look at this panoramic picture, and so
Speaker 1: much so that I don't feel like I need to climate.
Speaker 1: You can almost hear the wind whipping. Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 1: So give me some more steps. The tallest peak in
Speaker 1: the world, share which is what's the peak? How? How
Speaker 1: it tall? Is it thousand thirty five ft which is
Speaker 1: eight thousand, eight hundred and fifty meters for our friends
Speaker 1: who don't live in the US or Liberia or Burma? Correct?
Speaker 1: Very well done, uh little shout out insider, shout out
Speaker 1: to our SNAr mail or. She wrote in with that, um,
Speaker 1: and the mountain itself shares a border with Nepal and Tibet,
Speaker 1: but the actual peak is in Nepal, so India is
Speaker 1: not involved, not as far as I know. Um, why
Speaker 1: did you say that you're trying to throw me off
Speaker 1: my game? Yeah, don't worry about it. Checking No one
Speaker 1: can throw you after game, right, not even me? Josh
Speaker 1: messes with me sometimes people, but it usually gets cut out.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling this will make it in so
Speaker 1: check out. Have a question for you, Shoot, what is
Speaker 1: the worst season to go on Everest? Well, really anything
Speaker 1: outside of um May in June May to June. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you want to climb Everest. June is the
Speaker 1: time you want to go. Yes, oh well, okay, got so, Josh.
Speaker 1: An average day, if you want to talk weather, an
Speaker 1: average day in May of two thousand and eight was
Speaker 1: minus seventeen degrease fahrenheit, which is mine degrees celsius true
Speaker 1: and wins of fifty one eighty one KOs right, very good.
Speaker 1: So that's during the most hospitable time in the year,
Speaker 1: barring no like freak storms and unusual activity. Other times
Speaker 1: of the year, the jet stream passes directly by the summit,
Speaker 1: which is in made of June, the jet stream does
Speaker 1: not do that, which is why that's the time to go.
Speaker 1: And you can get winds up to like, you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty miles an hour and miles an hour,
Speaker 1: which would be a hundred and eighty nine kilometers an
Speaker 1: hour and minus a hundred degrees fahrenheit. So which is
Speaker 1: minus seventy three degrees celsius. Right, so you cannot imagine.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been up in then a tall, tall building?
Speaker 1: Um get in the wintertime? No outside, Okay, I climb
Speaker 1: the Empire. There's no mountain climbing, certainly, no Colorado hiking,
Speaker 1: no tall buildings in the wintertime. But you've been to Malta.
Speaker 1: Um I just a few years ago, Emily and I
Speaker 1: were at the top of the Empire State Building around
Speaker 1: Christmas time and dude, that's the Empire State Building and
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna die the wind in the cold,
Speaker 1: and that's the Empire stabling. So imagine Mount Everest at
Speaker 1: twenty nine feet Well, were you properly outfitted on the
Speaker 1: roof of the Empire stuff? Yeah, you established a base
Speaker 1: camp by then, yeah, on the on the ground floor
Speaker 1: comes out. I was like, what are you doing? Right? Yeah? Okay, So, so, Chuck,
Speaker 1: I think we got it down. Mount Everest is not
Speaker 1: the place to be, especially with your Empire state allegory.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, thanks, okay, so um and we've also
Speaker 1: established that people die on Everest. How many was there?
Speaker 1: Eighty nine? So that's the that's the current count, and
Speaker 1: you said that two thousand people have died or have
Speaker 1: have successfully summitted Everest. Right, that was as of a
Speaker 1: few years ago. That was the count, And the BBC
Speaker 1: told me, well, you so somewhere between there for every stat,
Speaker 1: there's another stat when it comes to stuff like this
Speaker 1: and equal enough isite stant like some guy might have
Speaker 1: snuck up to Everest and not officially logged it with
Speaker 1: the BBC. You know. Well, the problem is is that, um,
Speaker 1: if you die on Everest, apparently you stay on Everest
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, which is what your article is about, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's much. Uh, it's a suicide mission to try and
Speaker 1: bring a body down from the death zone. And the
Speaker 1: death zone is above twenty six feet. That's like the
Speaker 1: final area, above the final base camp where you go
Speaker 1: to reach the summit, and that's where most people die.
Speaker 1: And not everybody who's died on Everest is still there,
Speaker 1: but a significant portion is, like of the nine, there's
Speaker 1: one twenty. And also we should probably say before you
Speaker 1: sharpen your pencils and email us, we're working off of
Speaker 1: what like two thousand four stats right here, So at
Speaker 1: least several people have died since then. I think I
Speaker 1: know at least one guy died in two thousand six
Speaker 1: on everest Um. The thing is is you can't even
Speaker 1: bring your oxygen canister down. Basically, a dead person and
Speaker 1: an oxygen cancer not the same thing. But it kind
Speaker 1: of puts it in perspective like you are going up
Speaker 1: there and getting back down and you're lucky to escape
Speaker 1: with your life, basically exactly. And from what I what
Speaker 1: I've read and had been described to me, to try
Speaker 1: and bring a body down is as suicide mission for
Speaker 1: everyone involved. So it's like, you can't save this person
Speaker 1: because you put your entire crew at risk, So you
Speaker 1: just have to march on um. Now that's kind of
Speaker 1: the predominant view of people who who climb everest Um.
Speaker 1: But it seems like it's starting to change, like technology
Speaker 1: is advancing enough, and people's gear and and oxygen equipment
Speaker 1: it's getting good enough so that that that sentiment is
Speaker 1: almost um being outlived. It's already been outlived obviously. Sir
Speaker 1: Edmond Hillary is the guy who summited everest for the
Speaker 1: first time. With their debates about that too, did they
Speaker 1: think nor Gay beat him? Uh? Well, George Lee Mallory
Speaker 1: actually is an other climber and there's there's some speculation
Speaker 1: as to who actually got there first, because Mallory was
Speaker 1: found dead and actually in the article there's a picture
Speaker 1: of his i know, petrified, frozen, headless body. It is
Speaker 1: a cool picture. Yeah, yeah, his head is just pretty
Speaker 1: much withered away. The weird thing is is like if
Speaker 1: you look at his left hand, it's totally intact, Like
Speaker 1: it looks like he's just laying there if you just
Speaker 1: look at his arm. But where did they find him?
Speaker 1: I mean, did they find him at the summit or
Speaker 1: they think he made it to the summit and started
Speaker 1: to climb down and died maybe exactly. I think that's
Speaker 1: the speculation. They did not find they found beneath the summit,
Speaker 1: And there's speculation as to whether what you said, whether
Speaker 1: he made it all the way down and died on
Speaker 1: the way back, or whether he never made it all
Speaker 1: the way up and he would have been before Hillary.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a pretty big deal. Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: in the twenties, right, Yeah, And it looks like he
Speaker 1: was running around in like a burlap sack. I think
Speaker 1: it's not good climbing. It weathered some over the years. Well.
Speaker 1: Either way, the first person to be to document their
Speaker 1: place at the top of Mount Everest is Sir Edmund
Speaker 1: Hillary and he did it with the nepolie serpa tending
Speaker 1: nor Gay, who's just got the best name. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got Sherpa right there. And then Tensing in nor Gay.
Speaker 1: I love that guy's name. That's that's your fake name
Speaker 1: when you check in the hotels, isn't it. Why did
Speaker 1: you do that? I tell you things in confidence. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Chuck to change my name. This brings up a point though,
Speaker 1: that he's he's obviously the most well known serpa ever.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of any other Sherpa? I have,
Speaker 1: but I never retained their names, like Tensing nor Gay. Well,
Speaker 1: they get a raw deal, as my point, Like you
Speaker 1: always see the guy, you know, the white dude and
Speaker 1: the jam Sport North face gear on top of Everest,
Speaker 1: and you don't see like there's like two on the
Speaker 1: outside of the frame. It's their third trip up that week.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like big deal. Did you ever see
Speaker 1: the episode of The Simpsons where Homer climbs Mound Springfield
Speaker 1: and the two Sharps are like doing cartwheels on the
Speaker 1: way down and dragging him up while he sleeps at night. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I imagine that that's probably. I think it's a thankless job,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I think of the world, they
Speaker 1: need to form a union or something. So how did
Speaker 1: we get on Hillary? Well, you said that he was
Speaker 1: the first man. Okay, well, I know, I know what
Speaker 1: I was going to say. He lived until two thou eight,
Speaker 1: so he lived to see a lot of people follow
Speaker 1: in his footsteps and die and um. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and six, this guy named John Sharp. I believe he
Speaker 1: died on the mountain. I think of exposure maybe, and
Speaker 1: as many as forty climbers passed right past him and
Speaker 1: not like him and didn't see him like past him,
Speaker 1: noted he was dead, dying, dying, and just kept going
Speaker 1: because that that mentality is still around, like hey, it's
Speaker 1: too dangerous, right. The thing that so Hillary came out
Speaker 1: and publicly criticized the people who didn't even do anything
Speaker 1: make an attempt um. And then the thing that really
Speaker 1: kind of drove that criticism home was the following year,
Speaker 1: a Nepalese woman was successfully rescued by an American climber,
Speaker 1: very experienced American climber, but she was in virtually the
Speaker 1: same spot under virtually the same conditionings, and he got
Speaker 1: her out. But forty people walk past this guy just
Speaker 1: under the assumption that, And I can imagine it's drilled
Speaker 1: into your head like if you die or you're dying,
Speaker 1: we're going to leave you here. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that's necessarily I don't think that necessarily has to be
Speaker 1: the case anymore as that that American guide proved by
Speaker 1: saving the Nepalese woman. Right, And this is this is
Speaker 1: me speculating here, but I bet a certain amount of
Speaker 1: this too, in addition to having that drilled in your head,
Speaker 1: is it's so much effort and a lot of money
Speaker 1: to go on one of these expeditions and not you know,
Speaker 1: some people climb it more than once, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people this is there there one shot and they
Speaker 1: hear this, and they might see someone dying and they think,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't ruin my opportunity to climb Everest
Speaker 1: and potentially die in the process to rescue the stranger
Speaker 1: or so it's pretty sad. And I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of controversy. Well there was. There's definitely one guy
Speaker 1: who has probably received the most public eye or of
Speaker 1: anybody who's let somebody die on ever. So his name
Speaker 1: is Ian Woodall, and he actually figures as basically the
Speaker 1: villain in Into Thin Air. He was actually he was
Speaker 1: on the mountain when crack Howard's expedition went pear shaped,
Speaker 1: and um so crack Hower was. You know, these expeditions
Speaker 1: were very close together and oftentime, like coming into the
Speaker 1: same place at the same time, and they try to
Speaker 1: stagger it kind of like golf, except much much deadlier.
Speaker 1: Um where so everybody's not hitting the same points at
Speaker 1: the same time, right, Yeah, Well, what All apparently was
Speaker 1: not down with waiting for anybody. I think his famous
Speaker 1: quote in the book is will make it to the
Speaker 1: top any time, we damn well please, or something like that.
Speaker 1: So he's unwilling to coordinate with other expeditions. He um
Speaker 1: wouldn't allow another expedi and I think craik Iur was
Speaker 1: expedition to use his radio to call for help um
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I don't remember. I read the book
Speaker 1: like a decade ago, but he craik Are definitely doesn't
Speaker 1: like this guy. And basically, if he doesn't say in
Speaker 1: so many words, he insinuates that this people died on
Speaker 1: the mountain because of this man's action or in action. Right. So,
Speaker 1: and there was actually one another climb that would all
Speaker 1: went on where he Yeah, he was with a dying woman.
Speaker 1: He and his partner Kathy o' doubt his his wife actually,
Speaker 1: but I think they're they're climbing partners as well. Um,
Speaker 1: we're going on their initial ascent, right, and um came
Speaker 1: upon a woman and what is her name? Her name
Speaker 1: is Francis are Arcentievay. Um. Yeah, and she was laying
Speaker 1: there dying, and so they went over and hung out
Speaker 1: with her for an hour and tried to see what
Speaker 1: they could do. And what happened, well, they left her
Speaker 1: behind and she said apparently the last words she said,
Speaker 1: we're don't leave me behind. And they were forced to
Speaker 1: leave her behind. And I didn't know that part about
Speaker 1: the end of thin Air that he figured into that book,
Speaker 1: but apparently he went back in two thousand seven to
Speaker 1: bury her body up there. He did, with a couple
Speaker 1: of others. She had. He was racked with guilt, apparently, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had. Um. I read an article in the Daily
Speaker 1: Mail about him doing that. Um, And it was right
Speaker 1: before he was actually on the mountain. They were interviewing
Speaker 1: a via satellite phone. Um, and apparently Fran as everybody
Speaker 1: called her, had become kind of this um ghoulish landmark,
Speaker 1: like I think Cathy O'Dowd put it, like you get
Speaker 1: to Fran and turn left, because she was right there
Speaker 1: on the trail and and you know, apparently like in
Speaker 1: like a kind of a really horrible frozen state. And
Speaker 1: also her husband was on the climb with her and
Speaker 1: he died. They assumed they never found him again going
Speaker 1: to get help. Um. So yeah, it's a horrible story.
Speaker 1: They both left their a son behind, I believe. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so so what all wanted to go barrier
Speaker 1: and uh he ultimately ended up like lowering down, lowering
Speaker 1: her down and dropping her down the north face instead. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's not a very well liked person among
Speaker 1: a lot of climbing circles. I get the impression. Well,
Speaker 1: I know there's certainly a lot of controversy around that. Um.
Speaker 1: I know that there's also been efforts. It's a big
Speaker 1: trash dump too, which is what's really sad, because like
Speaker 1: you said, people will just dump their gear to make
Speaker 1: it easier on the way down. And uh, I got
Speaker 1: a good stat for you here. Uh, we're talking a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty tons of trash each year or left
Speaker 1: behind the mountain verse by climbers. Wait each year. I
Speaker 1: thought that was total each year, says ABC News. Holy
Speaker 1: and climbing teams in China. They lead expeditions now to
Speaker 1: go up and clean some of the stuff up, and
Speaker 1: they're trying to get some of these bodies down that
Speaker 1: are within you know, safe reach. Because if me think
Speaker 1: about there's a hundred and twenty bodies on Everest, the
Speaker 1: ones that are up in what'd you call it the
Speaker 1: death zone? Um, they're they're pretty preserved, like you can
Speaker 1: see in that picture of George Mallory, right, Um, so
Speaker 1: they're close to trails generally, so that it I mean
Speaker 1: imagine that. Imagine climbing Everest knowing that your own mortality
Speaker 1: is at risk and then having like these reminders along
Speaker 1: the way. I felt that way at the Empire State Building.
Speaker 1: Did you were there a lot of dead bodies on
Speaker 1: the Empire State up the stairs? You know, every couple
Speaker 1: of days it's an elevator. So I got you. I
Speaker 1: really had nothing to complain about. There's no stairs in
Speaker 1: the Empire State Building like a violation of I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are stairs, but you don't climb them to get
Speaker 1: to the observation deck. That's why you're still just doing
Speaker 1: the Rockies, buddy. Yeah, so okay, Well, Chuck, UM, I
Speaker 1: guess we've answered that question. Dead bodies, Uh, hopefully less
Speaker 1: as they retrieve them, if they can retrieve them, and
Speaker 1: hopefully less as time goes on, because I know that
Speaker 1: every year that goes by a fewer and fewer people
Speaker 1: are dying because of climbing technology, satellite phones and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and possibly maybe a change in mentality about
Speaker 1: what happens to you if you get injured or you
Speaker 1: get exhausted. It's a new bang up generation of service
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, there's no tensing nor days though he's
Speaker 1: he's the one last of a breed. Yeah, well again,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to that. Are their dead bodies
Speaker 1: on Mount Everest? You can read more about it. It's
Speaker 1: a Chuck article, which means it's the market quality. You
Speaker 1: can type in dead bodies Mount Everest and it's gonna
Speaker 1: come up in our handy search bar on how stuff
Speaker 1: works dot com and UM while I'm sitting here thinking
Speaker 1: about a new UM pseudonym to come up with when
Speaker 1: I check into hotels. Um, Chuck's gonna talk about our blog. Yes,
Speaker 1: our blog is up. It's been up for a little
Speaker 1: while now, and we've gotten some of you find folks
Speaker 1: leading comments and we'd like to see more of it.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say every Friday, I do
Speaker 1: a little podcast recap on the blog where we just
Speaker 1: mentioned the shows that were release that week. And that's
Speaker 1: a good chance for you guys to to chat with
Speaker 1: us about it. If you have any comments about that
Speaker 1: week's show, we log on, we'll answer you back, We'll
Speaker 1: answer your questions. And uh, it's a good way to
Speaker 1: reach us. Do you want to mention the cartoon? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: even better? There's a for Friday the March. There's a
Speaker 1: blog post where Josh and I are actually have been
Speaker 1: made into a comic strip by an artist named Greg
Speaker 1: Williams for the Tampa Tribune in Tampa, Florida, and it's
Speaker 1: regarding our junk Mail podcast and it's up on our
Speaker 1: blog now and it's awesome. It's really really good. It
Speaker 1: is very cool. Um he he found the one moment
Speaker 1: of scatological humor out of all of our podcasts and
Speaker 1: amplified it like a million times. It's he did a
Speaker 1: good job. And also I never realized how round my
Speaker 1: head is until I saw it in cartoon form, and
Speaker 1: he clearly used a compass to draw to draw me. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I have a big round head. That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah it looks nice. But yeah, that's up and blog
Speaker 1: and thank you to Mr Greg Waynes. Yes we're doing that.
Speaker 1: We feel very honored. Yes, and now and I know
Speaker 1: what's time. It is listener mail, So chuck, the bring
Speaker 1: has occurred, the toned down bring, as per the request
Speaker 1: of some the listener mail chime, let's do it? Uh
Speaker 1: this one? Um wait, wait wait, there's no high coup
Speaker 1: in here, is there? Well, there's a brief one. Hi's
Speaker 1: are brief? All right? I said, no more highkus. But
Speaker 1: this one's funny because, um, originally I called high coups
Speaker 1: that were corrections correction coups. I thought it was kind
Speaker 1: of funny. But Jonathan M. Pesky of Redlands, California wrote,
Speaker 1: as this one correction coup, No, such a clunky moniker.
Speaker 1: Try high correction that is a little more clever, much
Speaker 1: more better. So it's more bid. Getting on with the
Speaker 1: correction coup. H I know, and uh I think last
Speaker 1: week we mentioned the listener mail someone wrote in about
Speaker 1: the MK Ultra video game. Yeah, the guy who's on acid.
Speaker 1: While he wrote us, right, can we listen to a
Speaker 1: little click at that real quick? Let's do that because
Speaker 1: it was funny. Uh. In it, you were a weird
Speaker 1: costumed a man with a gun for an arm, and
Speaker 1: you went through and violently killed everything in your midst.
Speaker 1: The world you were in was very interesting, different colors,
Speaker 1: the walls moved, weird sounds. There was a talking dog.
Speaker 1: It's your sidekick, so right, he wrote us in, And
Speaker 1: I was really really disappointed to find out. We had
Speaker 1: quite a few people email us and tell us that
Speaker 1: it was not a game called MK Ultra. It's a
Speaker 1: game called m d K. And while there was a
Speaker 1: weird costume man with a gun on his hand and
Speaker 1: a talking dog and lots of weird trippy things in
Speaker 1: dark sense of humor, it apparently had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the MK Ultra. So I was disappointed to learn that.
Speaker 1: But I want to thank rue from Atlanta Ali boy
Speaker 1: eat has uh you think you practiced? That's not bad? Robbie, Yeah, Alejandro, Okay,
Speaker 1: Charlie and Michael or and they all are video game guys,
Speaker 1: I guess. And they wrote in um tell Us that
Speaker 1: they had played m d K. It was a PC
Speaker 1: game and it looked pretty cool. I looked at it
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I haven't seen it yet. Yeah, it's pretty rad,
Speaker 1: but there's no um there's no mk ultrack going on. Well,
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