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Speaker 1: Now, the Shotguns Starting golf is full of mathematics. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of setup work that we have to do

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Speaker 1: in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a

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Speaker 1: shotgun start here and there a week.

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Speaker 2: Alright, alright, alright.

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Speaker 3: Dent no man.

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Speaker 2: Dark, you are greetians. Welcome to a Monday edition of

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Speaker 2: The Shotgun Start. It is May twenty fifth, Andy, How

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Speaker 2: are we doing, Brendan, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: What a day, What a day of golf. It was

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Speaker 3: exciting Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I man glowing reviews near universal. Everybody's riding high. Everybody

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Speaker 2: seemed to have fun. Wider sports world seemed to have fun.

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Speaker 2: Non golf voices you know, you don't see often wading

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Speaker 2: into our pool were there. It was great. It was

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Speaker 2: just and I think the golf tragics enjoyed it, had

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Speaker 2: a little fun with it. I'm sure there was some

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Speaker 2: I think overall people were just happy and celebrating a day,

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Speaker 2: a shared event, maybe in the way I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we've been watching Last Dance, I don't know. But it

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Speaker 2: was live sports and people seemed to be sharing in

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Speaker 2: the experience of it. So I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: great sort of celebratory mood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was a wonderful diversion and it

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Speaker 3: it just had some moments where you were you felt alive,

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Speaker 3: you know, and there were just some great moments where

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Speaker 3: I mean the whole out for Brady, it was so

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Speaker 2: Mean I jumped off my couch shouting oh at the TV.

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Speaker 2: Jumping off my couch. It just got me going.

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Speaker 3: So I mean to do it right after Charles Barkley

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Speaker 3: is just talking. Yeah, Yeah, it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: You got Brooks kept cafoning in getting involved. Kind of

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Speaker 2: everybody's sort of piling on. You could tell Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: like it was starting to get to him, not starting

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Speaker 2: it was to him like he just wasn't playing into

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Speaker 2: it anymore. He was done. He felt probably a little sheepish.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I would say, you know, let's go into it, then.

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Speaker 3: We're in it.

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Speaker 2: I would say this sort of like the Brady playing

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Speaker 2: like absolute crap, like really put rocket fuel on the

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Speaker 2: appeal of this thing and the broader appeal of it.

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Speaker 2: Like it was a real charge because I mean, let's

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Speaker 2: be honest, there's a ton of Brady fans out I

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Speaker 2: think there's like out there, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe unanimously held opinion that he's the best

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Speaker 2: But like there's a lot of angst out there, a

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Speaker 2: lot of Tom Brady kind of Shotenfreud.

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Speaker 3: Patriot Tom Brady aks and it like.

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Speaker 2: All credit. I mean, he sort of was put him

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Speaker 2: out there in this pissing down rain and humiliated himself,

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Speaker 2: so much fun watching him be so bad. And we're

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Speaker 2: talking not just like you know, angry mobs on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: We're talking like jj Watt and Brooks, Koepka and Barkley,

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Speaker 2: like famous celebrities getting in his grill about having fun

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Speaker 2: with it. It was so that really I think boosted

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Speaker 3: You know, it was it made him so relatable and

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Speaker 3: struggling on the golf course in a moment and clearly

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Speaker 3: just it like like you said, gave it rocket fuel,

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Speaker 3: but it just it drew. It sucked everybody in because

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Speaker 3: everybody had been there, everybody's hat around a golf where

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Speaker 3: mean he looked like a fish out of water, and

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Speaker 3: you know, then all of a sudden he just hits

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Speaker 3: his miraculous shot and then he was just as terrible

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Speaker 2: I mean, pop ups, hard hooks, complete balloon balls out

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Speaker 3: You know what, I realized the tracer was only on

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Speaker 3: So when they split the T boxes, there wasn't a tracer,

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Speaker 2: This is not a critique of that. They should have

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Speaker 2: had it, Like we understand that they're working up against it,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's just ripping on his handicap. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: then he's chili dipping it and sculling it. He said

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Speaker 2: let's put this in perspective here. Yeah, everybody's like he's

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Speaker 2: an eight handicap.

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Speaker 3: He's an eight point one index, which translates to like

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Speaker 3: did the entered all the scores in for his two

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Speaker 3: Oh, I would walk out and give Tom Brady three

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Speaker 2: Did any part of you feel bad for him? Like

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was nowhere to hide you. Anybody feels

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Speaker 3: bad because anybody that's had one of those rounds, it's

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Speaker 3: like the worst feeling in the world, where it just

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Speaker 3: Did you hear them talking about how much he played

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Speaker 2: Was that a real thing?

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Speaker 3: He played eighteen?

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Speaker 2: And then he was like running sprints or something. I

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Speaker 3: Something about that? And I got all these replies like

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Speaker 3: golfers who love golf hit balls and that it's like

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Speaker 3: every day in Scotland. It's like, well, I understand playing,

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Speaker 3: but like there's no reason to be hitting balls when

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I think is like with Brady, which

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Speaker 3: oh big day, I'm going to play eighteen run wind

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Speaker 3: sprints is like this other athlete thing where they think,

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Speaker 3: times the less you try, the better you play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and the more space you give the game. But in

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Speaker 3: every other sport it's like, oh I need more reps,

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Speaker 3: I need more reps. Yeah, the more I throw this

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Speaker 2: Right right, No, No, that is maybe obviously a very

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. So I was happy for him

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Speaker 3: I think when I at the moment I felt bad

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Speaker 3: They didn't even show him hit their hit his third.

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Speaker 2: That's the how about this? Does he have a driver?

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Speaker 2: He's like just popping these you know, Fairway woods and

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Speaker 3: Why was he using the driving iron the whole round?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He hit that thing beautifully on the back nine. I

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Speaker 4: mean that was part of the point. He could not

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Speaker 4: he was not in play. That was part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about his worst shot that barely got acknowledged?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Was it the chili dep which one was? The

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Speaker 2: chili dip was really bad? And like because they were

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Speaker 2: started talking about other things and it was like in

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Speaker 3: I think I was just gonna go with the skull

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Speaker 3: on right the whole After the one club right in

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Speaker 2: Right through, I thought when we were heading for all shot,

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Speaker 3: I thought he played great on the back that one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was much more improved the part

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Speaker 2: three they shot into that what it was at sixteen

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Speaker 2: when they all hit it tight, three of them.

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Speaker 3: That was unbelievable. Russell Wilson was like, you.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't even talk but get him out of there. Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson could barely articulate a sentence. He was all over

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Speaker 3: That was That was the low light of the telecast,

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Speaker 3: was bringing someone in at that point in the match.

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Speaker 3: That's where you need to be like, Okay, we're going

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Speaker 3: to move this guy to seventeen Fairway. Granted it raised

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Speaker 3: three hundred thousand meals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it worked out great, worked out yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they had to do those wheels up ambassadors. You know,

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Speaker 2: they were frequent throughout. My low point was probably this

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Speaker 2: I mean good on workday. Whatever they did.

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Speaker 3: Contributed, Phil just earned his scholarship, a scholarship, his sponsorship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on them for contributing, But like it just

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Speaker 2: But Phil was I think getting irted. I think that

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Speaker 2: You don't have it. So that was good. What do

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Speaker 2: What was your tweet? I think that that provoked a

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Speaker 2: real laugh out loud moment for me. It was Ernie

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Speaker 3: I said, Ernie never got out played by Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 3: I killed it through through ten holes, Peyton man Manning

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Speaker 2: In your heart of hearts and your bones, you feel

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Speaker 3: I felt? I felt like through ten holes Peyton Manning

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Speaker 3: Phil Micholson it and not even like good shots. He

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Speaker 2: He was amazing on the part three.

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Speaker 3: I mean he I think Peyton now played him.

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Speaker 2: us that like Phil, you know as much as Brady

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Speaker 3: It was unbelievable that they were only three down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, we got it very you know, it

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Speaker 2: drove the green on the par four. That was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: He's just shot into part three was great, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Tiger played like shit on the back nine.

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Speaker 2: Why what is that a take? What do you mean

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Speaker 3: He had some terrible wedges. Yeah, he like didn't do

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Speaker 2: Did his mic die or something he like, we didn't

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Speaker 2: hear from him the entire like back nine, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Like and then that the check presentation is Mike wasn't working.

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Speaker 2: like that. Why so, I bet you would. There did

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Speaker 3: He looks fantastic because he drove it well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was hitting like some protected like just

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Speaker 2: trying to go full go. It seemed like its smart

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Speaker 3: I thought, I thought he played good on the front.

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Speaker 2: He seemed really locked in, like really like didn't actually

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Speaker 2: Phil seemed bothered that he wasn't giving him putts. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think beyond just the banter for the camera, Phil,

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Speaker 3: It was fun getting an inside look at Phil in

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Speaker 3: I mean, if that that match goes nine more holes,

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Speaker 2: When Brady missed that or I'm sorry, Manning missed that,

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Speaker 2: Brady had just missed his, I think to make it one, I.

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Speaker 3: Believe, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's just Phil was lit up and Brady's

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Speaker 2: he's like screaming, like, whoa, He's done nothing to that point.

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Speaker 2: Nothing you got to have out of his hole out

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Speaker 2: you know, he's screaming over Peyton missing the little you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got to revise my favorite Brady shot. What was

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Speaker 2: Which one was? What happened there? Again, he didn't carry it, well,

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Speaker 2: several of them did not carry the whatever the march

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Speaker 3: That's the one. I wish we had shot Tracer the

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Speaker 3: that was the hole where if either of them had

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Speaker 3: had Phil Tiger hitting a pro shots. Then that alternate

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Speaker 3: if they could hit a drive well enough that you

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Speaker 3: the good enough drive there. But like on eighteen, it

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Speaker 2: Front nine times. Yeah, what do you think he would

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Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't have finished a lot of holes.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. I don't know where that was

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Speaker 3: You know, he had to have lost fifteen balls.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he was going to shoot on

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Speaker 3: He lost one on one, he lost one on two,

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Speaker 3: he lost one on three. He didn't lose one on four,

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Speaker 3: he lost two on five because he was in his.

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Speaker 2: Pocket, lost his pants, pants ripped. Not a good day

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Speaker 2: for under Armor. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But again, is this matches raging of the success if

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This thing brought a ton of

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Speaker 2: like we'll talk about whether this is replicable or they

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it's replicable. When you have just this,

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Speaker 2: everybody wants to see Tom Brady fall in his face,

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Speaker 2: and he really really did. How about him not knowing?

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Speaker 2: Should he have known what red steak dropped? Like he

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Speaker 2: He just seemed really lost.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Andrew Landry doesn't know the rules either, and

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Speaker 2: Hey was that TV spotter Scott McCarron. I swear to

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Speaker 2: swear to god it was Scott McCarron. It looked just

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Speaker 2: like him. He had these you know, medium shirt. I

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Speaker 2: knowing the drop whatever, It's fine. Anything else on Phil.

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Speaker 3: He was trying.

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Speaker 2: He was trying so hard from the moment the morning

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Speaker 2: He really trying hard, and I give him credit even

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Speaker 3: Left, of course happened right after I tweeted the Ernie thing.

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Speaker 2: What is that like one of those things where you

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Speaker 2: to just if you're given him open field to'll like

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Speaker 2: How did he do that? The way he was hitting

440
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: the ball, I think.

441
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: There's something about when you have to hit it high

442
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: and far, you sometimes make your best swing, especially with

443
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: the driver. Yeah, and he had to hit the launch

444
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: that high and he had to hit it, you know, far,

445
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: so I don't know, but it was a great shot.

446
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: I mean, and Brady made the eagle putt from off

447
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: the back there.

448
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: This was the great putter. See Manning flagged that wedgend there.

449
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was a birdie. They were gonna yeah,

450
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: they were gonna make a birdy there. What do you

451
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: think of Manning? Paynon Manning fantastic.

452
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed him being a part of it. I

453
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 3: thought he was like the perfect like he was the

454
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: perfect personality for that group.

455
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we said, we said in the preview thing

456
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 2: that we did on Instagram Live, he just seems like

457
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: the most normal of the four right, and we've said

458
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: it repeatedly. He was a good mix. Hit a couple

459
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: of good shots, more than a couple hit. Some good

460
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: shots hit some like really bad shots and amateurs hit

461
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: and kind of like he tells stories and He's a

462
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: person who can kind of narrate and have fun riding

463
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: on a cart by himself, knowing people are on the

464
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: other side side of the mic. And this is why

465
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: you see like Monday Night Football throwing the you know,

466
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: bank at him and places like they want him to

467
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: be a part of the He knows how to walk

468
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: the line there.

469
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: I think the broadcasts started to figure out a couple

470
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 3: holes in like we can go to Peyton and Kart

471
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: and he's great, and we can cover two minutes with

472
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: Peyton and cart. Or we can go to Phil talking

473
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: to somebody like talking golf and that's great Phil time

474
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: and though Phil filth time and they can those two

475
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: became like the carriers of the then they could mix

476
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: in Barkley and JT. But those two could carry long

477
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: periods of time versus like you're not going to cut

478
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: to like that. When Amanda Ballionis asked that for Brady

479
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: to tell that story, he was a horrible storyteller. I

480
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: didn't even he didn't understand what he was talking about, Like,

481
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: and he could not carry something, could not carry a

482
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: long stretch of time.

483
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: You know, he seems then I don't know, Yeah, he

484
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: seems like the robot like, I don't know if he's

485
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 2: human underneath it. I don't know what's going on with Brady.

486
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: He's just you know, different, so far gone at this point,

487
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: as he said.

488
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: The only thing human, the only thing human about Brady

489
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: is his golf game.

490
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he kept saying, God, dang it, like he

491
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: was pissed. And then you know, it became this phenomenon.

492
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: So with Brooks and all these others getting involved. Uh,

493
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: Manning was fantastic. I thought he was perfect, perfect kind

494
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: of person to have for this. What about Tiger? Anything

495
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: else you want to say on Tiger? Tiger had one good,

496
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: really good line about you know, filling him to mark

497
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: from whatever they were eighty yards back? You have like

498
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: a silver medal or what should I put my us

499
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: open market.

500
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: With mild utal?

501
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: That was good. It seems like quick and not to force.

502
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: It was good Tiger banter as he likes to say.

503
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, Tiger's Tiger. He's never

504
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: gonna be He's there for you know.

505
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: What did you think of Tiger's pants? Sure, that's all he.

506
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: Wears now, he wears those people, he wears those to dinner.

507
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: They got that extra pocket on the side. He's got

508
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: this touring gum in there. How about his tweet tonight

509
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: you see that two Monster nank you to Monster Energy

510
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: for your never ending support. I wonder if that's a

511
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: make good just because you were in a cart, you know,

512
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: in the bag didn't get its run never ending. Does

513
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: that mean that's like a partnership perpetuity? You know, Tiger

514
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: was fine. His golf was very good. He's there to

515
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 2: like be the headliner. He's not gonna but he's not

516
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: gonna be, you know, the talker. What do you think

517
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: of his game?

518
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 3: It was, I mean, he drove it well, I thought

519
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: he was. I don't think he was as sharp as

520
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: everybody thought he was. I think he hit some really

521
00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: nice shots early, but the back nine he was very mediocre. Yeah,

522
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: but you know that could be some of it could

523
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: be skewed with you know, having Peyton Manning, because like

524
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: something that excuses the par five where he hits it

525
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: in that bunker and then Manning amidst him monsoon. I mean,

526
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: I felt Manning's having to hit that bunker shot and

527
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: it is like a deluge and.

528
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: Deluge.

529
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how you pronounced it.

530
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Don't come to me for pronunciation.

531
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: But he blades it over and they make bogie there.

532
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: So that like kind of you know, Dragger's smile. But

533
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: he drove it great. But I think in general, I

534
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: don't think he was that good on the back nine

535
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: less sensational than early. He was pretty good, but like

536
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: even one one, he hit a terrible approach.

537
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: Into all right, Yeah, people seem just kind of seduced.

538
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: You had a lot of bad shots one seventeen, you know,

539
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: sixteen was average. He had a good long iron on fifteen.

540
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: A good putt on eighteen.

541
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: You know that was a great putt.

542
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: What do you I mean, what did you think of

543
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: his shorts? Why does he need why does he need

544
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: the pocket? What is the pocket for? Why does he

545
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: need that? Zippers?

546
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 3: Why do they go down to his shins?

547
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: That's the other thing. They've got seventeen inch in seams shorts.

548
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: I thought that with the extra zippers all over, I

549
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: don't understand. That's not that fun.

550
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: You don't watch it that last dance, Yeah, MJ was

551
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: a terrible dresser.

552
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: Well that's just the revelation to you. Now you need

553
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: that ten part documentary.

554
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: That's just hold on, hold on, Okay, I was refreshing

555
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: everybody's memory. Okay, Tiger is going to go down as

556
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: one of the worst dressers in golf.

557
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Had this. It's hard, It's unbelievable.

558
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Maybe there's something about being one of the greats and

559
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: just being a terrible dresser.

560
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: I think it would have been worse if he didn't

561
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: have his Nike deal. They just put him in dry

562
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: fit stuff. He's like bad as that seems sometimes, you know,

563
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: it probably would have been worse if he had to

564
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: leave stuff to his own imagination. So he was good.

565
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: How about TV twelve wearing pants when everybody else was

566
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: wearing shorts. Did you notice that.

567
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Did he have pants on underneath or were they just

568
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: rain pants?

569
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: Well, then the under arbor split and then he went

570
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: to the rain pants.

571
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right.

572
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: He's playing with two PGA Tour players who aren't wearing pants,

573
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: and he's wearing pants.

574
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Peyton didn't even wear like a ring gear on top

575
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: for a lot of it. He had his red Cross

576
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: shirt going. You know, I just want to say, like,

577
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: big ups to all these guys, like very well accomplished

578
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: superstars with millions and millions of dollars and didn't have

579
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: to do this, and it probably wasn't all that pleasant,

580
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: especially for Brady, but like, just you know, we appreciate

581
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: them doing that, right, I mean, they raised a ton

582
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: of money. It probably wasn't you know, the easiest thing

583
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: when it or the you know, at moments they probably

584
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: didn't want to be out there when it was absolutely

585
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: pouring on him. So all right, I think Tiger Manning

586
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: were the deserved winners, right, didn't they seem or you

587
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: think it was if they had gone twenty five holes

588
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: or twenty seven, they wouldn't have done it.

589
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, who knows. Everything could change, but yeah, well,

590
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: surprisingly I was so surprised at how well they played

591
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: an alternate shot together.

592
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. I thought that. I just

593
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: thought that was gonna be a blood bath based on

594
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: what we'd seen.

595
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: I think I was kind of impressed with Brady down

596
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: the stretch. He hit some pressure shots like the par

597
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: three shot. He kept it in play when every time

598
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: he needed to hit a shot, he kept it in play.

599
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: He never like utterly failed when when he needed to

600
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: hit a shot.

601
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: So we got a text that he has total driver.

602
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: Willies just has the Willies with his driver right now,

603
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: can't hit. I mean we saw it a lot. You

604
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: had to feel fair think.

605
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty safe to say after today that

606
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: he had has the three wood Willies too.

607
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: But it's just okay, we've we've banged on Brady enough.

608
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: How do you think metal I mean.

609
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: Does any did? Did you see him he had maybe

610
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: won good three wood out of twelve today?

611
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? How did medalist hold up for you?

612
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it is what I thought it was. It's

613
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: it's a golf course that pros make look pretty easy,

614
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: like you never watched it and we're like, oh, this

615
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: course is really tough for Tiger or Phil, But then

616
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: you watch Brady and Manning play and they lost balls

617
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: all over the place. It's a golf course that divides

618
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: the skill level, like it's going to push if you're

619
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: not a like a scratch player, you're going to struggle

620
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: at metalists, Like it's going to be really hard for

621
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: anybody below above a two handicap to play. You're gonna

622
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: shoot worse than you usually shoot, and everybody else is

623
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: probably gonna shoot about what they usually shoot.

624
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this, for this, for this product,

625
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: do you think it was better that way. I do,

626
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: because some of the peel was watching these guys get.

627
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: And I have to walk back something. And I always

628
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: have hated watching anybody but professionals play golf, but I

629
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: enjoyed watching Tom Brady suffer today.

630
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Uh, do you think it would have been better at

631
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: a place like Metalist or it's hard to say, I'm sorry,

632
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Ed Seminole, I don't.

633
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it for the general public,

634
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: it's really medalist, is really easy to understand. It's like, oh,

635
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 3: there's trouble everywhere but down the middle. So for that,

636
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: it makes it a really easy product to watch. Like

637
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: it's really hard, especially with a telecast this and we

638
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: can talk about the telecast in a little bit, but

639
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 3: like a non golf telecast, they weren't going to get

640
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: down into the nitty green about what was going to

641
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 3: be challenging, and they weren't going to be like, okay,

642
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: you know. The tough thing about this shot is Phil

643
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: has a lie that's going left to right, and he

644
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: wants to hit the shot right to left, and and

645
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: then you know, with the wind going this way, his

646
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: functional landing area to keep this on the green is

647
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: like five yards wide.

648
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, dude, some of those greens are ridiculously small.

649
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: You warned us about that, Like I couldn't believe it.

650
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was crazy. This is just another thing

651
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: that makes it so hard for the average guy. Like

652
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: it's not that hard for a tiger to hit the

653
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: third green with a wedge, but it's like almost impossible

654
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: for a guy like Brady or Man.

655
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: Is that the par five?

656
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

657
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah one early on I was like, what is this?

658
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: I think that green's twenty five hundred square feet. It's

659
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean it is tiny.

660
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: Uh so metal is held up in your mind. It

661
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: was a fine, fine enough on you for this. Yeah,

662
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: I think it really worked, you know, especially we're not

663
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: having crowds. We're just it's just a backdrop, right, It's

664
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: we're social distancing doing all this stuff.

665
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, guess what golf's okay without fans?

666
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I should talk about coverage TV. Sure, how'd

667
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: you find the TV broadcast? I think JT was a

668
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: breakout star for the day. It seems like he's not

669
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: getting too many negative reviews.

670
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: I think they should try and get him to do

671
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: it full time. Why, he's pretty good at it.

672
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: I think like he created that whatever viral moment or

673
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him, Chuck your fat ass,

674
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: I'd like to see your fat ass duncle by basketball

675
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: right now. And that like went into outside the golf

676
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: corner the world. A lot of people enjoyed that in

677
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: the wider sports world. So I think JT got a

678
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: lot of run. He was a good mix of being

679
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: able to do the Barkley style banter and being able

680
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: to tell you about this course where he plays, or

681
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: get something out of Phil talking about golf. I think,

682
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, not to add to the you know, glowing

683
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: almost unanimous praise he's getting, but he was really good

684
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 2: mixture of stuff.

685
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought when he he knew in dead

686
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: parts what to ask Phil to get him going. Yeah,

687
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Like that's where it was so helpful with him having

688
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: such a relationship with those two guys where he could

689
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: he knew exactly what to say to Phil that would

690
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: get him going.

691
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, and you can tell this is

692
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: someone who's been like I don't know, not to be dramatic,

693
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: but like baptized in the fires of playing casual golf

694
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods and all the like

695
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: you sort of biasmosis. Not that those guys are great

696
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: on TV, but you kind of, I don't know, acquire

697
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: an ability to be yes and uh not back down,

698
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: or I do know, just be yourself, be able to

699
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: tell Barkley, I want to see your fat ass uncle

700
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: basketball like he's someone who maybe someone else who hasn't

701
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: had that background wouldn't have that confidence or comfortableness talking

702
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: like that, and he brought it. He was great anything

703
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: else on TV.

704
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: So I don't think. I don't think that the showing

705
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: of shots was that much different than last week's. The pacing, everything.

706
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: Was really just slow. It was slow out there.

707
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: Both were slow just because they're trying to.

708
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Work with limited cameras and trying to get everybody in

709
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 2: position and things like that.

710
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: But we saw a golf broadcast last week, and we

711
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: saw a broadcast team primarily made up of people that

712
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: do other sports this weekend.

713
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was that way for the Match one,

714
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: and I think people ripped on the Match one more

715
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: than anything.

716
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: Well, but they had all golf people, mostly outside of Barkley.

717
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this match I think worked because they went

719
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: completely they diverged from the traditional norms of golf broadcast.

720
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: The main the main analyst didn't have to be an

721
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: ex player like Immaman was there, but he kind of

722
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: I think Barkley was a much bigger role.

723
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't even say you could use the term

724
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: Maine for anyone, right. It was more like JT. Barkley

725
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: kind of discourse with the players out on the course,

726
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: with Trevor occasionally coming in. I don't even know that

727
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: you could say Maine. I mean Brian Anderson was directing

728
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: traffic a little bit, but like, no one had a

729
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: title of Maine on anything. I thought.

730
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: So the golf broadcast, the recipe has been the same

731
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: for sixty years. Yeah, this is how we broadcast golf,

732
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: and this is the way it's been and golf is

733
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: always slow to change. And what you got this this

734
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: broadcast was essentially what they do. It felt more like

735
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: a broadcast you would get with the NBA on TNT.

736
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: Well. To be clear though, to like, we can't have

737
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: this every week. No, these guys are going to be

738
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: going into like real competitions and want to be miked

739
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: up or want to be taking questions from Justin Thomas

740
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: at the Sila Green or whoever the en Course reporter

741
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, it's great to have that and strip

742
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: it down and do something totally radically different. But like

743
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: that's not like how competition. It's not how it would be.

744
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: There's a lot of PGL talk coming out of this tonight.

745
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: That's not how like the PGL could be in terms

746
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: of we're just talking broadcasts, like these guys are gonna start.

747
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: I realize they're competing in this, but it's not you know,

748
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: the the day to day of their their career in

749
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: that kind of competition. So like that's not replicable either. No,

750
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: it was great for this.

751
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: I think there are things that they could take from this,

752
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: you know, and I think like a not having a

753
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: like steady diet of X Cup dates. Well, I'm saying

754
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: like asing or just rambling and rambling or Faldo whoever's

755
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 3: in that spot. Just like going to the on course

756
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: person more often, because I feel like the on course

757
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 3: person can always provide some worstwhile insight, you can pick

758
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: up some sound on the audio on the course, like

759
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 3: we get that down the stretch sometimes where we get

760
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: them picking up caddy player interactions and like they could

761
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: do more of that.

762
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the analysts are usually just guessing off

763
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: the picture as well. They see exactly they're watching it

764
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: just like you and.

765
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: I so so more of that, less of less. I

766
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: don't like I've heard everything Asinger is gonna say from

767
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: like a catchphrase thing like where he's gonna, you know,

768
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: drop his zingers in there? And you know, I do

769
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: appreciate some things like Asinger brings a perspective that's really good,

770
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: but it's better in smaller doses. The more you lead

771
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 3: on on certain people to carry the broadcast, the less

772
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: impactful each of those people become. And this is what

773
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: That's what this broadcast I thought did really well was

774
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: that they spread it across all four players and all

775
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: of their media personalities.

776
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, seem to be a lot of praise for that too.

777
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: I just I think it's like fine in vacuum. I

778
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: just don't know, like where what's the middle ground?

779
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: Right?

780
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: We can't go It's proven that you can do different

781
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: things and make a really entertaining product. How do we

782
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: fit that in with like a more competitive when when

783
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: when we have a more competitive atmosphere or more competitive tournament.

784
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: Well, they could just mic all the they could mic

785
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: the players, but the players will never go for it.

786
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, that's where the members organization runs into it.

787
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: I mean, what do they want to be? What do

788
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: they want to do? I mean I saw people who

789
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: someone tweeted like it was a T. K. Kelly. Somebody's

790
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: like a player, not like a critic, like a media

791
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: yapper like us. So like this could do more to

792
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: grow the game than anything in the last sixty years

793
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: or any of these you know, twenty years. I know,

794
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: was it? Yeah? I guess there's a lot of brands,

795
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: a lot of mculture, there's a lot of Capital One,

796
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: a lot of audi audience.

797
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: They stayed out of the way of the golf.

798
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was just a fun entertainment. Probably it

799
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: was great. So seeing a lot of PGL talk. Do

800
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: you have anything on the broadcast any other things you

801
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: want to say? Barkley was I thought Barkley was perfect.

802
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: He wasn't like over the top, you know, he wasn't.

803
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: He was kind of a good mixture of curious questions,

804
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: trying not to get in the way and try not

805
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: to be a you know, cartoon care I think he

806
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: was great.

807
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: I thought my one of my favorite things, which is

808
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: totally not replicable on the PGA tour schedule was the

809
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: ability for the announcers to talk to the players.

810
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So getting off that then, does there not

811
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: need to be a PGA tour anymore? Should this be nohld?

812
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: This be this spark for the PGL. Is this what

813
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: the PGL should do? I don't think the PGL could

814
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: look quite like this.

815
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: But I did a podcast with Garrett Morrison and uh

816
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Stephen Proctor. Yeah, Steven's a sharp guy. He wrote a

817
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: book about young Tom Morris. He's very versed in the

818
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: history of challenge matches, which this was essentially a challenge match.

819
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: Challenge matches were how golf competitions started. Yeah, when golf

820
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: started and they were wildly popular, more people would go

821
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: to big challenge matches than the Open Championship.

822
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: That's why I think people don't understand is like, oh,

823
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: this is so the traditionalists, like this is kind of

824
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: in golf's blood and its origins from the very beginnings.

825
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: A lot of these like you know, if you want

826
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: to call them publicity stunts, but like made for whatever,

827
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: made for TV, made for whatever, Scotland challenges, you know

828
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: that this is part of its origin story.

829
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: So Stephen was talking about the origins of the first

830
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: professional tour in England, and it was centered around helping

831
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: the middle tier professional make enough living because those professionals

832
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: couldn't make enough money. The top professionals could make more

833
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: than enough money doing challenge matches. Sure the middle tier

834
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: guys could make enough money doing this. So that's essentially

835
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: where we're still at, and it's the better product. In

836
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: the old days, was always challenge matches, that was the

837
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: most popular product. But in order to make a living,

838
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: and guess what, making a living as a professional golfer

839
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: on the PGA Tour is no longer a problem, so

840
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: it's time to make changes because that's the same thing,

841
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: the same reason they went to this one hundred and

842
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: twenty five exempt player thing. What do you mean, so

843
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: when they change the system there used to only be

844
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: sixty except players. That was to help everybody make a living. Ye,

845
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: every time they try they create a policy to make

846
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: a living, Like and here's a match, and we saw

847
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: it with match number one, a challenge match between Tiger

848
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: Woods and Phil Mickelson. They played for ten million dollars,

849
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: which that year was the same number that the FedEx

850
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: Cup winner got, Like these got these guys on their

851
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: own can earn more money than anybody else.

852
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: And you think they should. You think that some form

853
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: of this PGL whatever we saw today beefed up whatever

854
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: we saw today version of what we saw.

855
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: This podcast I did with Steven Proctory what got me

856
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: thinking he was talking about all this stuff and what

857
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 3: I realized, what's Golf's most valuable property? The Masters the

858
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: second most valuable property.

859
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

860
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: What the Ryder Cup, Oh, the Ryder Cup. Yeah, you

861
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: know what the Ryder Cup is. Yeah, it's a challenge match. Yeah,

862
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 3: so that there needs to be a team match.

863
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: There's an element of nationalism in that too, But.

864
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: That's the same reason why we love sports is because

865
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 3: I have a I have pride as a Bulls fan.

866
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: It's why I love the Chicago Bulls is because they're

867
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: my team, right, Yeah, and I love that NBA, But

868
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 3: mostly I got into it because I was a Bulls fan.

869
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: So this is when you have a team, it allows

870
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: you to draw outside or a rooting interest, and it's

871
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: so much easier to root for somebody when it's a

872
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: one on one match.

873
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's this.

874
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: It just it makes the game so much more approachable

875
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: to the common fan this this match today. But is

876
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: that approachable? Yes, I do want that, Like.

877
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: You're getting out over your getting too far afield when

878
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: you're like trying to cater to the common fan. I think

879
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: that's where we've gotten in trouble. You want, you want,

880
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: you want.

881
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Somebody to turn on the TV and understand what the

882
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: hell is going on right now? They turn on the

883
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: TV and they hear Waldo mumbling a wind a reward

884
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: update and then twenty players in a scoreboard update, and

885
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: then a fed X Cup update. It's like it in

886
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: a match. It's like, oh, this guy's playing this guy

887
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: and he's two up. I get that.

888
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: I think there is a sweet spot between like making

889
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: a great core product that's also easily like that cater.

890
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: I think we got a little bit of it today,

891
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: a core product that really catered to the golf tragics

892
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: that you need to worry about. What is your product?

893
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Is it is the product to be selling title sponsorships

894
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: and race points, races that are nebulously calculated. You have

895
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: no idea what it really means in the grander scheme

896
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: of things, or is it like just golf on TV?

897
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: You know? Is it the actual the the stripped down

898
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: play on TV from t de Green competition, you know,

899
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: whether the stroke play match, whatever it is. And I

900
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: think in a way, stripping that down not only like

901
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: appeals to the people who are annoyed by all the

902
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: intrusions of you know, live under par chainsmokers, concerts, and

903
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: you know, all the other different lard of a broadcast,

904
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: which a term I use too often, but it also

905
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: makes it more understandable for the common person, common fan.

906
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: You're talking about the guy who's just dropping in, like

907
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: so many people did today, so many, so many people

908
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: like this is awesome. I saw some person, I saw

909
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: someone I can't recall who like the least golfy person ever,

910
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: probably hates golf, being like, what could what can other

911
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: sports learn from the match? How would we do this

912
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: with soccer? How would we do this with hockey? How

913
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: can we do this? What could what can other sports

914
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: learn from golf? Like you rarely hear that ever.

915
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: So imagine the match, but with four matches going on

916
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: at once, How good the TV would be?

917
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, is that what you're saying the PGL could be.

918
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm not even saying the PGL Like you could devise

919
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: this with the PGA Tour and have it on Tuesday nights.

920
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: This is we play one of these every Tuesday night,

921
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: and there's eight guys that play every Tuesday night and

922
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: they have there's a season long competition within this thing,

923
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: and it's rewarded based off of maybe it's the top

924
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: twenty four guys from last year's FedEx Cup get on

925
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: this into this elite you know, match play circuit, and

926
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: you have a playoff at the end of that. Yeah,

927
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: basically a better version of the fed X Cup, right right.

928
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: The I just I'm I'm gone. I don't know if I'm.

929
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 3: Golf pro to get away from seventy two hole stroke

930
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: play bullshit, because like the most compelling, most engaging format

931
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 3: of the game are the ones that aren't played every

932
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 3: single week on tour. Granted, seventy two hole stroke play

933
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: is going to yield your best winners from a from

934
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: a period. Yeah, exact, that's.

935
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: Where the competition is, you know, allegedly most sacred, right,

936
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: and you can't you don't want to.

937
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: Keep it at fifty tour stops, but every other one,

938
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: let's re event.

939
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So I did not I guess I should have,

940
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: but I did not see sort of like the PGL,

941
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, rejuvenation coming out of this in the

942
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: way that it seems to be. I'm not saying the

943
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: PGL itself seems to be doing it, you know, as

944
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: a new hope, but I'm just surprised that it wasn't

945
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: a thing I expected and.

946
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: Well, this is what the PGL talked about doing though.

947
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: It's like a strip. It's it's like we're going to

948
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 3: appeal to golf fans like and we're gonna the system's broken.

949
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: It is broken. This is something we've talked about for

950
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: a long time. Like the PGA, the way the PGA

951
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: Tour is structured is not well, it's it's not the

952
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: way it should be in the in year twenty twenty,

953
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: it you know, player number one twenty on the on

954
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: the FedEx Cup point list does not matter in the

955
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: grand scheme of golf. Sure, it's nice when the journeyman wins,

956
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: but it's a star driven world at this point and

957
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: golf fans barely ever, like a couple times a year

958
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 3: we get to watch Rory on the weekend. Yeah, and

959
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: we should get to watch Rory on the weekend like

960
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 3: ten fifteen times a year. We get to watch them

961
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: like six times a year on the weekend.

962
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: All right, So how many more of these should we do?

963
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: How often should this be a thing? Is this this

964
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: kind of thing that we just captured in a bottle

965
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: one time with certainly with the Brady not playing well

966
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: sort of thing, and again that I just thought super

967
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: charged it from the start. But how often would you

968
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: do this? We should be doing it? You know? What

969
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: kind of bothered me is like this should have been

970
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: going on since mid end of April.

971
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 3: Right, every sunn talked about that.

972
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't you have to be said Sunday? It could

973
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: be Wednesday nights, you know, and nothing's going on.

974
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: That's so I think they should be pushing these every

975
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: Tuesday night because you don't have Monday night football, Tuesday

976
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: night golf.

977
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean you go to Tuesday. You go like in

978
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: the Midwest or somewhere right now, it's like dark light

979
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: till like nine, you know, past nine o'clock.

980
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: In Michigan's till ten o'clock.

981
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could play late, you play West Coast primetime

982
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: in the East. I guess whatever. There's so many moving parts.

983
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: I just would have been cool if we had a

984
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: few more.

985
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 3: Of these Tuesday Night Golf, All right, Market tonight, Okay.

986
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say in reaction to this?

987
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: Do we cover all the hits? Do we do everything?

988
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: Of course?

989
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: Broadcast? Did you watch the Barkley segment?

990
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: I was in and out, I came back. I was,

991
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: I came back. He was on a second shot pretty

992
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: close right.

993
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: That was fun to watch.

994
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: I thought it was supposed to be during and alongside

995
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 2: the other they got it. Wasn't they would have gotten done,

996
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: clogged things up.

997
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: Were you worried that they were not going to finish

998
00:53:59,560 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: at all?

999
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time. I mean I was surprised they got

1000
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: it in just based on the radar and the way

1001
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: it was, the way they went live on the range.

1002
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: It's just like, what this isn't happening.

1003
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: There's no way I didn't think it was going to

1004
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 3: happen today.

1005
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean the first green and whatever green they showed

1006
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 2: was underwater. I mean, it's just soaked.

1007
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: What a miserable day to play golf.

1008
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: Then they did it again. There's a certain level of

1009
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: appreciation for them going out in there. So all right,

1010
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: that's it.

1011
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: I'm ready to talk about Ernie, you know, the guy

1012
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: that didn't get out played by Peyton Man.

1013
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Do we need to say anything of our hats? The

1014
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 2: hats sold out quickly. We apologize. We you know, we're

1015
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: not good at this. We're not professional merchandisers. We put

1016
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: we thought it was a fine order. We didn't want

1017
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: to overstock. They went quick. We've already ordered more. I

1018
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: rest assured these haven't been you know, earmarked for friends,

1019
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: and we didn't you know, ear marked twenty percent of them.

1020
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: We don't even have ourselves know everything we got we

1021
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: put up for sale, know, we don't. I do not

1022
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: have a shotguns start merch myself. We didn't get into

1023
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: this to make merch What do we make merch What

1024
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: episode are we on, like four hundred or something.

1025
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: I have no clue what number we're on. It's way

1026
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: too many, though.

1027
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: Trust Justine, if we were doing this for merchandise and

1028
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: to understand merchandise, we probably would have put it out,

1029
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, two years ago. So it wasn't really a

1030
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: merch play. We will try to We've already put in

1031
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: another order. Right people didn't seem happy with us.

1032
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: Hey, we might put up some like some polos or

1033
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: free bird shorts right now. We might put up those.

1034
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, we might get a little different. You know,

1035
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: polos are pretty standard golf attire, but you know, do

1036
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: something different. So but we apologize. We'll have more hats soon,

1037
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: all right, that covers that.

1038
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: Let's second over promise though.

1039
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, let's just keep the mics on the

1040
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: episod so it's rolling out. We'll try to figure that

1041
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: out later. We got on this big post hat call

1042
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: because you know, they went quickly like what happened and

1043
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: were runing Will Knights and your wife, who you know,

1044
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: the two brighter bulbs than us, and you're immediately and

1045
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: you're immediately gumming up the works of the call as

1046
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: we're trying to proceed, talking about how you want to

1047
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: get Hogan caps with upside down beakers on them for Bryson,

1048
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: and they're like looking at you, like, get this idiot

1049
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: off our call. But we'll sort that out. We'll try

1050
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 2: to make a few more things and you know, put

1051
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: them up at some point. Okay, that's it. Everyone, enjoy

1052
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: your I don't know, holiday, be a reflective about Memorial Day,

1053
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: I would say, certainly at this moment. And we will

1054
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: talk to you guys on Wednesday