WEBVTT - Drive Time: Offensive Combine Notes and Matchmaker with EJ Snyder

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<v Speaker 1>What is up, Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>our last edition of Combine Coverage, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and recap the offensive side of the football what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw on the field before Friday show we pivot

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<v Speaker 1>to the free agency portion of the calendar as freegency

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<v Speaker 1>begins just next week. We'll also hear from EJ. Snyder

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about some potential Dolphins fits in this year's

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<v Speaker 1>draft as well. All of that and more from the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Hell Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Draft Time Podcast. Aye, before we get into EJ,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kick this thing off here and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about some Combine notes. But before I even

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, discuss something I saw from the great

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Thorne. I wanted to get him on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>back in Indianapolis, but our schedules never quite intersected. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the public sure of the Trench Warfare newsletter where

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<v Speaker 1>he breaks down all things offensive and defensive line play.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a difficult level to analyze, especially for the

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<v Speaker 1>common fan. And that's why I think Brandon's content is

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<v Speaker 1>so good because he's one of the few guys that

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<v Speaker 1>has carved out a space for himself with regards to

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<v Speaker 1>doing offensive line specific content. And that's just to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the most misunderstood position by common fans across any sport,

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<v Speaker 1>and quite frankly, folks that do what I do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living. It's a tough thing to identify responsibilities and assignments.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think that certain offensive line grades

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<v Speaker 1>should not be factored in at all. Soap box point aside.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote about the tackle to guard pipeline conversion in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and I found it fascinating because of what

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<v Speaker 1>Will Campbell did in Indianapolis and because of what some

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<v Speaker 1>folks think Marcus bo even armand Membu who I will

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<v Speaker 1>go into draft night having him as my OT one

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<v Speaker 1>on my final big board. Josh Simmons number two closely

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<v Speaker 1>behind him. But here's what Brandon said. Zach Martin, Joe Tooney,

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Buttonio, Brandon Schurf are four of the best guards

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<v Speaker 1>of the last decade, with twenty two Pro Bowls among them.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them were very good, productive offensive or rather

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished college tackles at left tackle. Tyler Smith, Sam Cosmy,

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<v Speaker 1>Elijah Vera, Tucker are three of the better young guards

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and they are in the same boat.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also notes this list is not exhaustive. Robert Hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, was a right tackle at ULL and kicked

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<v Speaker 1>in the guard and got a nine figure contract. Projecting

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<v Speaker 1>a very good tackle inside to guard isn't a slight.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, more players should embrace it. This class is

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<v Speaker 1>shaping up to be a shot in the arm of

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<v Speaker 1>the aging crop of guards closer to the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>their careers than the end. He listed Campbell from LSU,

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<v Speaker 1>Kelvin Banks from Texas, Jonah Savina from Arizona, Gray's Abel

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<v Speaker 1>from North Dakota State, Jalen Rivers from Miami, bo from Purdue,

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<v Speaker 1>Emery Jones from LSU As College tackles that can move

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<v Speaker 1>inside in this year's class. And that's not even exhaustive

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<v Speaker 1>to that point. And again, we saw Miami take Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt and keep him there in twenty twenty two after

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<v Speaker 1>his first career start in twenty twenty and some of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one as well was at that right tackle

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<v Speaker 1>position right and we saw them move Connor Williams all

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<v Speaker 1>the way inside after he was an NFL guard who

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<v Speaker 1>was a college tackle. We saw them cross tran keyon

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<v Speaker 1>Smith this preseason to play some guard. Liam and Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Jones were both collegiate tackles. Isaiah Winn was a tackle

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<v Speaker 1>in college. You guys get what I'm getting at here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really true of all the Shanahan Tree systems.

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<v Speaker 1>The Niners do it just like we do it. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have moved both Elton Jenkins and Zach Tom inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom was originally inside, has gone back outside since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Ryan was a tackle in college guard in the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rams have done it all across their line.

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<v Speaker 2>It is at the in.

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<v Speaker 1>Vogue move excuse me for this offensive system, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on because again, I think

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best potential guards in this class will

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<v Speaker 1>be former tackles like a bow Banks. Maybe even Will

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell makes it to thirteen, because Jordan Reed from ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>did project that will happen and that Miami will take him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, will they?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that would go against conventional thinking. Although you could

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<v Speaker 1>argue like he is at one point going to play

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<v Speaker 1>tackle in this offense, but then you're kind of saying, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm betting against Patrick Paul or Austin Jackson down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think they'll do that because they believe

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<v Speaker 1>in those players as cornerstones, and for what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe either Paul or Austin will be interior

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<v Speaker 1>players in this offense anytime soon, if you were thinking that.

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<v Speaker 1>So fascinating stuff all around. I tend to think this

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<v Speaker 1>year's draft class is better to go defense early and

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<v Speaker 1>that that can change and pivot based upon how the

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<v Speaker 1>board falls. But Tyler Warren's kind of the one guy

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<v Speaker 1>up top offensively that makes some sense to me. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at what I think is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten talent who falls at defensive tackle, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a corner. Maybe you take a jack of all trades

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<v Speaker 1>and a Nick Worry. I just feel like the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>positions could have more to offer if you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>warm in that thirteenth pick. Let's go ahead and button

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<v Speaker 1>up this first segment here before I get to EJ

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what happened on the field during the combine

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<v Speaker 1>workouts and Tyler shook the Louisville quarterback that has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of become that guy I think for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks and.

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<v Speaker 2>Better here than Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't understand this Jackson Dart hype, and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>that is the you know, the quarterback class tends to

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<v Speaker 1>get pushed up. I have gone back to the film

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<v Speaker 1>on Shedur Sanders and really softened my stance on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even a first round player for me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tyler Shook though. Man, he was made for this event.

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<v Speaker 1>He's slaying the football all over the field. He was

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<v Speaker 1>always going to look awesome in shorts, but it's the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's six foot four and ran a sub

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<v Speaker 1>four seven forty yard dash that made him a winner

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<v Speaker 1>for me. That's ninety third percent tile in height, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>fifth percent tile in straight line speed, and the athletic

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<v Speaker 1>ability is there as well as the ability to drop

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<v Speaker 1>the arm angle and throw all kinds of shortstop throws,

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<v Speaker 1>very attractive part of his game. And then Brady Cook

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<v Speaker 1>from Missouri was a four to six guy with a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven inch vertical ten foot seven broad jumps. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's your athlete of the class right there. Now more

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<v Speaker 1>important positions like running back here. I got plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>notes on a class that perhaps Miami isn't even venturing into.

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<v Speaker 1>But we shall see Quinn Shawn Judkins was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that to me made himself a first round prospect with

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. And I look at the pass protection

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<v Speaker 1>reel in college and it was awesome. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>watch him jump eleven feet on the broad two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty pounds, like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the most explosive player that has a lot of weight

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<v Speaker 1>behind those pads and he plays with pure power. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>knock you in the mouth. Go watch his organ tape

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<v Speaker 1>where he just popped guys in the mouth consistently. As

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<v Speaker 1>pass rushers. He runs a four to four to eight

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<v Speaker 1>like get the hell out of here, thirty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inch vertical. All of these are eighty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>percentile or better with a weight at running back ninetieth

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<v Speaker 1>percent tile. He's a first round player. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll go there. So is he an option at forty eight, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he would be. Would that be a little bit overkill?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it would be. But maybe you pick up an

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<v Speaker 1>additional pick somewhere and you can go after this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and change your temperament, change your mentality on day number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I do fear he's worked himself above the forty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth pick, and that would seem to be quite a

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<v Speaker 1>luxury for the Miami Dolphins. Speaking of luxuries, Travon Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>his teammate at Ohio State. If you want more speed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he worked out just like the tapes said

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<v Speaker 1>he would four four three a one to five six

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<v Speaker 1>ten split, thirty eight and a half inch for ten

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<v Speaker 1>to nine broad jump. Those are my two favorite backs

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire class. I would have no issues. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's removing Ashton genty obviously he's like a top ten pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would have no issue if both Jenkins and

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson went in the first round. But I do think Judkins'

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<v Speaker 1>style would really complete the Dolphins running back room.

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<v Speaker 2>But both these players are really really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think by shell Touton from Virginia Tech would

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<v Speaker 1>give you some of that. And he was listed at

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and twenty pounds going into this and came

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<v Speaker 1>out of it with two oh six. Can we get

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<v Speaker 1>our scals right? Like, what the hell's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the offensive line measurements were way off from Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl two. But this was Brett Coleman's matchmaker pick. On

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<v Speaker 1>the Thursday podcast, he said four three, five Tooton goes

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<v Speaker 1>four to three to two to two right and again,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and six pounds, forty point five inch vertical

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<v Speaker 1>ten oh five broad. He also had fifty three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of his yards at VTech came on breakaway runs, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know your boy loves that. If we if we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run the ball a lot, I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>home run hitters. His four to four to one shuttle

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<v Speaker 1>was only thirty percent tile, which just says that you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically not like gonna be a shifty in tight spaces back.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you just run outside zone, just hit your

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<v Speaker 1>top bend speed, find decrease and go. There's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of start stop in this offense in at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he still fits there. Omar and Hampton

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<v Speaker 1>the North Carolina back, I mean it just continues here right,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight inch vertical, ten to five broad four four

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<v Speaker 1>seven one five six ten split. He's also two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty one pounds. Like, what the hell is going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? Man? These two hundred and twenty pounds backs

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<v Speaker 1>are not supposed to move like that. And we do

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<v Speaker 1>have one of those guys in Jalen Wright, who is

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<v Speaker 1>already being talked about in my as that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>physical presence alongside Devon Ahchen. So all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you're looking for your third running back because

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<v Speaker 1>Miami's got their top two guys right now and it

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<v Speaker 1>should be that way. R J. Harvey at a UCF

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<v Speaker 1>clocked a four to four flat. That's a ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent tile and with his receiving skills makes me pretty

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<v Speaker 1>damn intrigued. If you can find either him or by

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<v Speaker 1>shell tooton on day three, I would be very into that.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that kind of fell the most for me

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<v Speaker 1>was Iowa's Caleb Johnson. He was saying he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to run four to three and then seeing that with

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<v Speaker 1>his outside zone reel had me fired up to be

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<v Speaker 1>a possible Dolphin in the future. But then he runs

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<v Speaker 1>a four to five three, which is what I expected

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<v Speaker 1>it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be interested.

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<v Speaker 1>However, on day number three, at receiver Jack Besh from TCU,

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<v Speaker 1>his six eight seven three cone time was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest needle moving moments of the entire weekend. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I saw that wiggle on his college tape, and

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<v Speaker 1>at that size, we're talking about a really, really tough

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<v Speaker 1>cover for cornerbacks because he can go over the top

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<v Speaker 1>of you and he can shake you, especially in on one

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<v Speaker 1>coverage situations, which he would get every rep in this offense,

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<v Speaker 1>because hey, guess what You've got Tyreek Hill and Jilen Waddle.

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<v Speaker 1>And despite what we think about Tyreek and the way

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<v Speaker 1>he handled the year, he's still gonna get double coverage

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Jayden Higgins out of Iowa State, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a really tough time on him at the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw some reps where I thought, like, that movement

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<v Speaker 1>will play, but then I saw some reps where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he can move well enough to shake free.

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<v Speaker 1>And you guys know how I feel about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Keon Coleman. I just I can't put a figure on

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<v Speaker 1>it as far as how I can project the way

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<v Speaker 1>he moves with just my eyes. But then he gave

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<v Speaker 1>us the numbers to kind of back up what I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was on tape. Potentially with the four four

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<v Speaker 1>seven at six foot four, two hundred and fourteen pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>a ten to eight broad, thirty eight inch vertical one

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<v Speaker 1>five to three ten splits, so he gets off the

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<v Speaker 1>ball quickly. I think between him and Besh and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get it a little bit with a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>less polish. With saving on Williams from TCU, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some Day two options to select big body wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers without having to sacrifice on speed. Speaking of speed,

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest folloer was Tesz Johnson from Oregon, and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved his tape in college. But he weighs as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I do, one hundred and fifty six pounds four

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<v Speaker 1>five six forty. I kind of can't believe it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he plays way faster on tape. In fact, his six

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<v Speaker 1>'s eighty three three cone time that to me demonstrates

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<v Speaker 1>the slant routes that he would catch and take to

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And he had better long speed than what

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<v Speaker 1>he ran in Indy. I wouldn't be surprised if we

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<v Speaker 1>heard that he had some kind of ailment. But still

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<v Speaker 1>at one fifty six, dude, you got to go four two.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Jalen Nole from Iowa State. He made me run

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<v Speaker 1>to the tape immediately, and I kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>like make a Keunny Steells comparison, but I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>like better, more explosive. He has the same like if

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<v Speaker 1>he's even he's leaving juice that both Reek and Waddle do.

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<v Speaker 1>He glides around the field and can utilize that acceleration

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<v Speaker 1>from a stop and off of his brakes four to three,

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<v Speaker 1>nine one, five to ten split, forty one and a

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<v Speaker 1>half inch vertical, eleven to two, broad, six eight two

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<v Speaker 1>three comb. You can take away the tape and that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make him drafted on one hundred just on athletic

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<v Speaker 1>ability alone, and oh, by the way, twenty three reps

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<v Speaker 1>at two hundred and twenty five pounds on the bench press,

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<v Speaker 1>he was best or tied for best in both jumps

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<v Speaker 1>and the bench with those time speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Wowsa.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Williams Washington State, Go Kooks. The tape is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Just jumps off as a really good football player, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know how well he was gonna run, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes out there in blazes a four to four

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<v Speaker 1>to two. He wasn't great in the jumps, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>a polished route runner who I look at maybe early

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<v Speaker 1>day three is a really good option for the Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>And then receiver one for me is still Elik a

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<v Speaker 1>minor from Sanford. Four to four to seven was a

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<v Speaker 1>big win for him. He has the best release game

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire class, just as good top at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the route. He gave Travis Hunter fits he

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<v Speaker 1>was ninetieth percentile in his jumps as well. One guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought confirmed what I thought I saw on

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<v Speaker 1>tape Pat Bryant from Illinois. He moves like a cargo barge,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew that from the tape. Tight ends Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor from LSU man his gauntlet was an example of

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete who is perfectly in tune with the mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>of every body part that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to be that effortless glide. Right down that line,

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to a golf analogy. The reason that

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<v Speaker 1>golf is so hard is because your hands and your

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<v Speaker 1>hips incorporate two opposing forces simultaneously. Think about it as

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<v Speaker 1>a really dumb down version as patting your head while

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<v Speaker 1>rubbing your belly. It's like one of those things you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have to think about, right. That's the golf swing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's athletes knowing how their body moves. And watching Mason

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<v Speaker 1>run around, I just see innate superior fundamentals at play always.

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<v Speaker 1>That just tells me that he's put in his ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand hours and quite frankly, I have connections that have

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<v Speaker 1>told me that as well, and he's just wrapped it

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<v Speaker 1>so frequently he can do it without thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is literally the key to doing it at the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL level. The Dolphins credo under Mike McDaniel has been fast, physical,

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<v Speaker 1>elite technique. He's the quintessential example of all three of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And again I'm close to Mason's circle. Believe

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<v Speaker 1>me when I tell you this. He is the real

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<v Speaker 1>deal as a person and how he works. Tyler Warren

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<v Speaker 1>is the apple of my eye for this offense. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance he's gone, and if he is,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go defense in that first pick and then

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<v Speaker 1>try whatever the hell I can do to get Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor at forty eight or going up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>to get him. Gunner Helm from Texas had a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>four to nine three forty that did not match his tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you find out that he sprained his ankle on

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<v Speaker 1>a false start for the before the first run, and

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<v Speaker 1>then went through the entire drill or the entire day

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<v Speaker 1>of workouts with that ankle injury. I bet he's a

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<v Speaker 1>four to six guy. His pro day. Jackson Hawes from

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech did what he needed to do, probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best true why tight end outside of Tyler Warren in

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<v Speaker 1>this class, and he was above average in the upper

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth percentile on the speed numbers, with eightieth percent tile

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<v Speaker 1>or more on the jumps and in the seventies of

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<v Speaker 1>this height and weight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good day for Jackson Hawes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jalen Conyers from Texas Tech ran a six

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<v Speaker 1>nine to four to three cone at two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty pounds. Only one tight end that had that weight

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<v Speaker 1>out of one hundred and forty nine of them since

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety nine weighed that much and ran that fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That is you gotta make that comment. Also, please don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever talk to me about Harold Fan and Junior over

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<v Speaker 1>the next two months, please and thank you. I am

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<v Speaker 1>just not interested in someone who does not block and

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<v Speaker 1>runs a four to seven. Let's go ahead and finish

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<v Speaker 1>up on the offensive line where all you guys want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. Tyler Booker was in the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>percentile of his ten split. I gotta say, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate everyone we get that comes on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>gives us their time and I talked about this with

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<v Speaker 1>the mina Chime segment, saying the Dolphins have to go

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<v Speaker 1>guard at number thirteen and mocking Tyler Booker to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two big time draft analysts on the show

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that he made the most sense. I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't stress enough how far off that take is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. I guarantee it Men's warehouse. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>has a guard never been drafted in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>in this offensive system, getting back to the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>you really think they're gonna take a guy that moves

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<v Speaker 1>that slow off the football. It's the antithesis of how

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<v Speaker 1>it's taught here. Just the ignorance on that topic drives

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<v Speaker 1>me insane. It's not gonna happen Will Campbell. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it, it's this guy because he has rare,

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<v Speaker 1>freaky movement skills. The seventy seven three eighth inch wingspan

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<v Speaker 1>is the smallest wingspan by a tackle since twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>so he might have played himself out of that position

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<v Speaker 1>if he is a guard, though he is like Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Martin now he was eighty fifth percentile or better in

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<v Speaker 1>all the speed metrics, and his tape suggest the floor

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<v Speaker 1>is as high as anybody in this class that goes

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<v Speaker 1>to like ninety nine percent tile if he's at the

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<v Speaker 1>guard position. Miles Fraser from LSU, his teammate, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go a lot higher than I would have thought

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<v Speaker 1>a month ago. This is probably my guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>class at this position, him and Jackson Slater. He's three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty pounds, had ninety percent tile jumps and

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<v Speaker 1>average speed metrics in the fifties. But I'm pairing that

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<v Speaker 1>with explosiveness with a true badass on tape, someone who

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<v Speaker 1>seriously wants to inflict pain on every d line he faces.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be a beast.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably have to use maybe that third round picking the

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<v Speaker 1>comp area to get him. How about Ariante Esri from Minnesota?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably my top choice if they go offensive line at thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that Campbell will be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Membo will be gone. I also Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons is a guy that I like in that spot too,

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<v Speaker 1>But talk about a fit here man ninetieth percent tile

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<v Speaker 1>in both the ten and twenty splits. His forty was

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<v Speaker 1>also a ninetieth percent tile at three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one pounds. Also, with his broad jump, he was ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent tile. He also has the best tape of anybody

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<v Speaker 1>against Abdul Carter, Kelvin Banks. I'm kind of out on

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Banks. He did not run nearly as well as

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he would, just seventy fifth percent tile and

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<v Speaker 1>the speed of the thirtieth percentile weight.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not like that pick.

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<v Speaker 1>At thirteen at all, Hall and Pierce from Rutgers had

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<v Speaker 1>the second longest wingspan since nineteen ninety nine, eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a quarter inch. He's six foot eight, three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty pounds. I've never seen him play, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what his tape is like. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Membo ran a four to nine to one at three

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two, which is a surprise to nobody. Nine o

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<v Speaker 1>seven broad was the best among the group. He's explosive

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<v Speaker 1>as hell. He's going to be a top five pick

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. And then Gray's Abel from North Dakota

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<v Speaker 1>State followed an awesome senior Bowl with the best vert

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<v Speaker 1>of the group group thirty six and a half inches.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Combine notes in the book, We're gonna have EJ. Snider

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast here in just one second to finish

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<v Speaker 1>out this show, and then Friday we'll have rht Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>on to finish up our combine chats. Let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and take our first break right here. Draft Time Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>your host Travis Wingfilm, brought to you by I Don't Knowation.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me today is the other half of the Bootleg

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<v Speaker 1>Football podcast. We had Brett Coleman on earlier and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to be joined by his co host e J.

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<v Speaker 2>Snyder.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, you can check him out on the Bear Era

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<v Speaker 1>podcast covering his Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>EJ. What's up man? NFL combine?

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<v Speaker 3>Leaving the dream kind of like Christmas Eve for those

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<v Speaker 3>of us that really love the.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft, And that's why we just jumped on the air

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<v Speaker 1>after getting some technical difficulties sorted out, and I told

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<v Speaker 1>you I had something to say to you that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to put on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's almost that's loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of hilarious that you're, like, you

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<v Speaker 1>make this reference to Christmas Eve for those of us

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<v Speaker 1>that care about it, But you're so meticulous in your preparation,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know this, man, it's already in in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>But here you are with a full page full and no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I just appreciate the meticulousness you have, a buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of doing this work for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever anybody is going to give me the benefit of

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<v Speaker 3>time to prep, I'll take it. I got that question yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, do you want the agenda? I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>of course I want the agenda. It's going to help

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<v Speaker 3>make the thoughts that I can bring and share more cohesive.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean that you can't deviate. In fact, you almost

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<v Speaker 3>always do as you know. But if you start with

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<v Speaker 3>that roadmap and you have an idea, it just makes

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<v Speaker 3>for better content.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like, well I could look it up, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got most of it there. Take care of it on

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the front end the back and will be much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's how I approach this whole business as well.

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<v Speaker 2>EJ.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with this for you in this draft,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, shoot, what's his name, I think Billy?

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<v Speaker 1>On Twitter, Billy M had a great tweet about how like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's actually no such thing as a bad draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had the famous meme right of like the

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<v Speaker 1>unpopular opinion, and people took it the wrong way saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean there's literally no team can have a bad draft.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, there's a collection of talent. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad draft in general. And that's the knock

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<v Speaker 1>you keep hearing across this year's draft. We had Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah on it who talked about how you can load

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<v Speaker 1>up on stars in this draft. Might not be the

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<v Speaker 1>massive crop of all pros, but they're stars all over

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<v Speaker 1>this draft. And so what I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about is how would you define this year's class, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what makes it special?

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<v Speaker 2>What's unique about it? What makes it tick?

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<v Speaker 1>When you think about the twenty twenty five class, What

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<v Speaker 1>is the first thing that comes to your mind as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, it's a great question, Travis.

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<v Speaker 3>And one I'm being asked a lot today, and one

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<v Speaker 3>I really kind of want to dig into because I

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<v Speaker 3>think this draft has been unfairly labeled as bad and

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<v Speaker 3>that's I think an oversimplification of what people say about

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<v Speaker 3>this draft. I don't think it's a bad draft. I

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.000
<v Speaker 3>think it's a very good draft. I think when people

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 3>say bad, it is a synonym for it lacks a

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.639
<v Speaker 3>bunch of players at flashy positions, so the quarterback class

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.000
<v Speaker 3>you'll hear about over and over again as as lighter

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 3>or weaker than typical years. Same thing with wide receiver.

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Those are i'll say high visibility positions and people who

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<v Speaker 3>don't spend a lot of time on the draft.

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.240
<v Speaker 2>And I'm that's fully okay, I'm one of the weird ones.

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 3>When you really dig in and look at this draft,

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 3>there is a wide middle class of players that will

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 3>be productive pros for years and years and build the

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 3>base of your team. To me as a draft analyst,

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 3>that's a good draft. That's an exciting draft. That's a

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:27.440
<v Speaker 3>draft where you can really make some hay as a

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 3>general manager. But I think the bad label comes because

0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 3>there's not the flash that people are used to, so

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.000
<v Speaker 3>they just go ass not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funny part about that is we're getting that

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>commentary from people that we you know, run in these

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 1>circles with. And if you're listening to this podcast, there's

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 1>no way that you only care about the top ten

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>picks the draft. You listen to this podcast because you

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 1>care what Miami might do in the seventh round, you know,

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>come Day three of the draft. And so, like I

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 1>understand for the casual fan, like, oh, there's not you know,

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>six quarterbacks that I have keep an eye on this year.

0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's the disconnect.

0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 1>But like, we're here with a group full of people

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that feel the same way about it that you and

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I do, So I don't understand the disconnect there.

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think that among the folks that really

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 3>put in the time, and you have Daniel, Jeremiah and

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm sure you'll have Dane and Jordan Reid's

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 3>here and I talked to all those guys. Matt Miller's

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.159
<v Speaker 3>coming in tonight. You know, we have these conversations about

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 3>what do you feel?

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>What do you see?

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 3>And you asked me about the strength of the class,

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 3>and we'll get into that, but overall, we asked that

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 3>question and it's resounding. Nobody has said I actually really

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>think it's a weak draft or bad draft or a

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:30.080
<v Speaker 3>thin draft.

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>People say the same thing throughout the middle.

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 3>It's an exciting draft and we're gonna see a lot

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 3>of movement that maybe we quote unquote don't expect because

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 3>when you have a lot of similar grades, teams are

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 3>gonna view them differently because of their coaching styles or

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 3>their current roster build or whatever else, and we're gonna

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.919
<v Speaker 3>see them pick players much quote unquote earlier, and then

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe we think they should. For every action that happens

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>like that, there's a corresponding move down the board and

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a players available later that you thought maybe wasn't gonna

0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 3>be there. So I think it's gonna be really exciting

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 3>year for the NFL Draft.

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the themes I've been discussing all week long

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest is how the Dolphins, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>have needs, And I think another big misconception is that

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of the way of business in modern NFL is

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of one and two year deals, short term deals,

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and that produces a heavy turnover rate every single year.

0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>And so I see, you know, and this is across

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>all fan bases, like they're worried about the number of

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.439
<v Speaker 1>needs they have, like but that's just kind of how

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>it works nowadays. So I think that this draft also

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>offers something that has beneficial to Miami in the sense

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.959
<v Speaker 1>that they really are kind of set at a lot

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>of the key positions. Your quarterbacks, receivers, your tackles. They

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>got two young tackles in there, you know, on top

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of Toront Armstead, who will see what happens with him

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>long term. Here, they've got young Edges and Chop and

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Phillips and Jalen Ramsey still there at the cornerback position,

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>so that the key spots are kind of spoken for.

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 1>But they have all these these needs at you know,

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say less than positions, but positions that,

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in terms of your resource allocation, are going to cost

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you less. And those are the group that have a

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>way of finding more talent deeper in the draft. And

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>EJ correct me if I'm wrong, man, but I feel

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's a perfect spot for the Dolphins to get

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 1>their pickings in with, you know, having a couple of

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 1>safeties that are on are going to hit free agency,

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>having a defensive tackle spot that's kind of not really

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.360
<v Speaker 1>set in stone right now, the guard position, all these

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>spots that are cheaper than the quarterbacks and the receivers.

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I think they have a chance to kind of knock

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it out of the park there. And there's a lot

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to choose from in this particular draft. You asked me

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>earlier about the strength of this draft class, defensive tackle

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely one.

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure with DJ you talked about it that last year.

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 3>At this time, he had twenty something grades of defensive

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 3>tackles that were draftable twenty three something like that. This

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 3>year he's got forty two, forty one, forty two danes

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 3>the same way.

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It's literally doubled.

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So if you are one of those teams like the

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Dolphins that lines up needs with availability, yes, you have

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 3>multiple chances throughout this draft to not only do it early,

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 3>you could do it late. You can wait for one

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>of those guys that we talked about at the top

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 3>that might slide down because you know, I the beholder,

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 3>somebody like somebody else better, and you get to the

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 3>third or even fourth round, you're looking at a guy

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 3>that probably would have been taken in the second last year.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 3>He's still available in the fourth and he's going to

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 3>contribute to your football team. So that kind of depth

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 3>is available in this draft at defensive tackle, at running back,

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 3>at tight end. You know, could even be tackled depending

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 3>on how you look at the class. As long as

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 3>you're not looking for frontline first day number one starter,

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 3>you can get tackle depth in this draft. So launch

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 3>of positions that, yeah, maybe a little bit less sexy

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 3>than you know, the typical but if you need to

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>build your football team, this year is the year to

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna give you a pretty specific question here

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>because you talked about the tackle depth, yeah, provided to Ron.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Armstead's not back with the Miami Dolphins, and again we

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure whether which way that's going to go.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel had meshinat has press conference that they're going

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to operate as if he is not back, and he

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>hasn't made the decision yet, and I think part of

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the stuff, part of the thing that could kind of,

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, influence that decision making is you took Patrick

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Paul in the second round last year and he played

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>really well in his reps as rookie. And then Austin Jackson,

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>who has been a really good player the last couple

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of years despite some injuries here and there. I think

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about the swing tackle position, it's so

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>imperative in today's NFL, especially you know, Austin's missed some games.

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Tron. We'll see if he's back, but he's missed some games.

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>You kind of have to have that third tackle, and

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times, especially with how linemen

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 1>are developed nowadays in the college game, you might lean

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>more towards a veteran in that position. But let's say

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that Miami doesn't get that on the free agent market.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a very specific question, so I hope you're

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>ready for it, like day two, maybe early day three.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Can you think of.

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>A tackle prospect that kind of catches your fancy that

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe is a guy that can come in learn the

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>system in August, in through the preseason, not have to

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>worry about starting games right away, and get that development

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>on track in case he has to come into a

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>game in October November and can be ready as a rookie.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a very on the nose us, but who.

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Give me, basically a tackle that you think is NFL

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>ready that might not go super early.

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>It's so specific. It is specific. However, it's a position that.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Not only the Dolphins are in because as any NFL team,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 3>even if you've got a pair that you like of

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 3>starting NFL tackles, you really have to think about what

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 3>your team looks like without either one of them, because

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>they're a rolled ankle or a sprain elbow away from

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 3>being out, and then how does your team look? And

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 3>that looks actually quite different. So third tackle swing tackle

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 3>becomes incredibly important, and yes, development curves and system matches

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 3>become really important because you might need that guy in

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 3>game four of his career or game ten. And there

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 3>are guys in this draft you talk about end of

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 3>day two range going into the.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Top of day three.

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Really when you're going to be spending a resource on

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 3>that position. I think Marksimbow from Purdue is a really

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 3>interesting guy that is going to be somewhere, maybe after

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>this week a little bit higher. He might be up

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 3>in the eighties, but if he slid down into the nineties,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 3>that's absolutely a value pick.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Charles Grant is a name.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 3>That your listeners might not be super familiar with tackle

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 3>from William and Mary, and that's the reason, and that

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 3>again he's gonna have a great week here at the

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>comment is a very good athlete. He's gonna show out.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 3>These tests are really made for him. But his tape

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 3>is also good. It's a level of competition question that

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 3>he answered some of those in his All Star game.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 3>We'll see how the Dolphins in particular feel about him.

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>But he's going to be a again end of day

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 3>two tight pick. If you're going farther down the board

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 3>than that, I like John Williams. I saw him at

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.959
<v Speaker 3>the Shrine Bowl. He's Cincinnati's tackle. He showed me some things.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Logan Brown from Kansas, it's another guy I liked. I

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 3>was watching their running back Devin Neil kept looking at

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 3>their tight ends and tight ends blocked tremendously, and then

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 3>you kind of move into tackle and you're like, tackle's

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 3>taking care of guys.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Who's that.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 3>It's Logan Brown. He's in this draft as well. And

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 3>then way way down the board, I know you're a

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Kugart heart as a pole is a fantastic player. Attackley

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>didn't play football in high school. Started trying to block

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 3>pass rushers in the Pac twelve last year, which is

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>not too ridonculous.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>No last year, okay, okay, okay, okay.

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 3>So he's been two years and this year he played

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 3>the dregs of the zombie Pac twelve, right, but improved

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 3>so much and great player, very strong again. Got to

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 3>interview him, got to learn a little bit about his

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>journey as an athlete, but also how he's thinking about it,

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 3>how he takes coaching, how much progress he's made in

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>just two years. And you look at the feet again,

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 3>former basketball player, he's got great size, he's getting the strength.

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Might be a.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Year away from being at full strength NFL style, but

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 3>there's so much to work with there. And if you

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 3>look at mock drafts or big boards right now, some

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of them he's not even on the ones he is on.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 3>He's in like the two eighties, which is a not

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>draftable grade. I don't think he's gonna be there two

0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>and a half months from now. I think he'll be

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 3>up in the two orders. You two, Victis, That's still

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>an incredible value at a very important position.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>That's why I wanted to get you in the show

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>because we're talking about potential pipeline developmental guys, and that's

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of where Miami has to go this year because

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>of the I guess cyclical nature of their team building

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>philosophy that was so draft heavy for the first couple

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>of years of this build. It got aggressive going after

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>veteran talent, which has been a big production piece for

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins team offensively and defensively. But now it's

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of time to restock the cupboard and get those

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>pipeline pieces in their developmental willhouse. And by the way,

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Charles Grant did crack DJ's top fifty. I don't know

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>if you saw that, Yeah, yeah, forty eight or forty nine,

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 1>something like that in the top fifty there, so's he

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>has not slept on anymore if he was. Let's close

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>with this EJ the quarterback position, and you remember this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I always love to tell the audience that if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get smarter about football, watch the Bootleg divisional previews.

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>They go down every single team. They knock out every

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>single acquisition and coaching change and scheme and what it

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>might look like and how all that fits together. It's

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the best content you can find out there to get

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.479
<v Speaker 1>yourself ready for the season. Over the course of the summer.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>You go out to the beach with your family, you

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>go out to the park, you go you dial up

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube episode of the Bootleg Football podcast and get

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>smarter about football. And I clipped off your discussion about

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>QB two a Tongua Bai looa. And you know, I

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>don't I'm not interested in fighting against narratives anymore because

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's proven that we don't have to

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>do that anymore. You know, health issues aside, but his

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>production on the field has been very, very good, a

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>very good quarterback. But my question for you is, and

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I asked coach mcdanielis so no pressure, no no no

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>pressure going in comparison against the head coach to Miami Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you think about how his career has evolved

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, kind of RPO quarterback in the start

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to a downfield merchant who was taking these deep shots

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and connecting for Tyreek and Wall for all these massive yards.

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Then this last year defense has kind of shifted and

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they had to play the quick game way more.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't RPO.

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>It was just like, get through the progression, bang bang

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>ball out in two seconds. Let's keep them offense move him,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought his efficiency in executing the off was

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<v Speaker 1>the best version of to a tongue of I looa.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you agree or not is besides the point. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>curious what the offense looks like. Do they pivot? How

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<v Speaker 1>does how do they build around that fact? Do you

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>try to go back to the aerial attack? Like what

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>does this Dolphins offense to you need to do to

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<v Speaker 1>take the next step in twenty twenty five and not

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, be a team that when he's healthy

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<v Speaker 1>wins eleven twelve games, but to get to that point

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and then knock the door down once they.

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Get into the postseason. Another long specific question for you.

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>It is a long specific question, and all I have

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<v Speaker 3>to do is be better than the head coach. So

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<v Speaker 3>no big deal, no, I really, as I look at

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<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins, I don't worry about their offense. Really again,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>as long as two is healthy and leading this offense,

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>the Dolphins are a very effective team and they win

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot of games in that alignment, in that position,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 3>let's put it that way. So I don't worry about

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.719
<v Speaker 3>their offense for the first three months of the season.

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 3>When I do have concerns about their offense, and it's

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>not because they haven't invested in the offensive line. They

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>don't have that smash mouth piece to them. They can,

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<v Speaker 3>in certain situations grind out small amounts of yards. What

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like they can do is grind out

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<v Speaker 3>whole games using that philosophy. Because they do lean so

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 3>heavily on to his skills and their receiver skill set,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're very, very good at it.

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>That's hard to do, especially.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 3>As the weather turns lousy and you guys go north

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the season. Fields can be sloppy

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 3>and you just need that ability. We saw through the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs with all the teams that were available in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>the further you went, the better those teams were at

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 3>running the ball, and the team that won the championship

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 3>was the best team out running the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dolphins need to develop some of that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying pivot to.

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<v Speaker 3>Becoming a smath mouth football team and forget about all

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>the other stuff. If you can marry those two to

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<v Speaker 3>a more effective balance, I think your chances as the

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 3>season progresses are better.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've heard both Chris Career and Mike McDaniel address that.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, McDaniel said at a press conference on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>like we probably will invest both in freegency and in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft in that position. So it sounds like you're

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>not breaking news there with those guys. But what does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like because we've seen, you know, the Rams

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of made a similar pivot over the last couple

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>of years and they went heavy in freegency on the

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, and the way coach McDaniel spoke, it sounds

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>like they're thinking the same thing. And I kind of

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of the veteran acquisitions there too, because

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it's more plug and played ready to roll.

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>What does that look like for Tua?

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Because my thought is if you have all that stuff

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>we just talked about in his game and then you

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>marry that with a team that can punch in the

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>mouth and run a four minute offense and kill some

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>clock and kill some games, I kind of feel like

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>he's the perfect quarterback to put.

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 2>In that situation. Like am I crazy?

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Like you're not crazy? And I think it's good for him.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 3>And it seems odd to be on a podcast saying, hey,

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 3>to a throwing a little bit less is good for him.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 3>It's going to protect him, it's going to give the

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 3>team something to lean on that is not just specifically him.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of pressure for any quarterback right to

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 3>take some pressure off. Hey, best friend of a quarterback

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 3>is a strong run game, you know, a very sure

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 3>handed tight end as an outlet.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>These are classic things that people say typically about younger quarterbacks,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 2>but believe me, older quarterbacks appreciate it too. So what

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>does it look like.

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>It's funny you say heavy heavy's doing a lot of

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>work in that phrase, because not only did they invest heavily,

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 3>but they also went heavier. It's three hundred and thirty

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 3>pounds each on the inside of that rams offensive line.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Dolphins can go a little bit that route too and

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 3>just try and beat people up. We're seeing that sort

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>of it's a pendulum in the NFL, and we're seeing

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 3>it swing back to a heavy dose of a heavy

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 3>run game with big guys, more gap in power coming

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 3>right at you, trying to knock those smaller linebackers off

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 3>the ball in the second level and then hoping you're

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 3>running back can beat one guy and then you're getting

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 3>those extra yards. If the Dolphins can do that and

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Tua has to do less again, we've seen he can

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 3>do more, but let's not require it every game and

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 3>down the stretch so that we're a little bit more

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>insulated from any possibility, whether that's bad weather, whether that's health,

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>whether that's health outside of toua right, other players on

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the offense who are keys that might go down.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, you lose a waddle for four games. Hey,

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>if you've got strong.

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Power run game, it's gonna mean a little bit less

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and you might drop one less of those games, which

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>at the end, as you know, can add up to

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>a division.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes a big difference.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I think we saw some of that in

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three when they had Austin Jackson, Rob Hunt

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>grinding out there and Connor Williams. Those guys got banged

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>up late in the season and I think kind of

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>went back in the same direction you're talking about there.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just I really view that as like

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of their their you know, their pathway back into

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>playoff relevance and winning games at that point of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll close with this, and you know, this is a

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 1>conversation you have to have around two at this point

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because of what he's put on tape in terms of

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the availability, is that they're gonna have to find a

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback for him this year, and whether that's in

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>the draft or in free agency, we don't know.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Again, Coach McDaniel mentioned that.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>He believes it will will exhaust resources in both areas

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and find out who's the best fit for that. In

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>terms of who might be the best fit, it's not

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a first round pick, we know that much,

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>but a Day two guy that you think might maybe

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>surprise some folks in terms of how high they go

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>for the quarterback.

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a Day three guy. I didn't ask.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Coach that because I feel like he wouldn't divulge that

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>information to me. I just could get the hunch that

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't. But Jordan Reid gave me a couple of names.

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're up against in this one.

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh jeez, well, position the parade of luminarias that you're

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 3>stacking me up.

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm just proving your worth.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm showing the folks those are the folks that you

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>can compete with because you're that thick of a rockstar.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I deeply appreciate it. It would be great if you

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 3>could buy quarterback futures because I think Kyle McCord is

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 3>gonna have a very good week when the drills start

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 3>later on this week here Nity, and I think.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 2>He's one of those guys that's in the mix in

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the middle of.

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 3>The depending on how you look at it, the second tier,

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the third tier at quarterbacks.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 2>I think he's gonna quote unquote rise right.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 3>If you are familiar with Syracuse's offense, it will not

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 3>be much of a surprise to you. That was a

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 3>killer's row of offense and he was the trigger guy

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 3>all year long. I think he's gonna surprise some people

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>here and again, if you can buy the future ticket

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>right now and say, can we get.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Him where he is right now come draft time, that

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>would be a great value for the Dolphins.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're gonna have that luxury because he

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>is gonna rise, so you're gonna be probably looking farther

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 3>down in the draft than that. I'm gonna go with

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Seth Hennigan A Memphis a good deal. I would go

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>with Seth Hennigan there. He has some things in his

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 3>game that I appreciate and like and think would be

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 3>let's say, amplified working with a guy like coach McDaniel,

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 3>and I think there's a lot there to work with.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would be a huge shift from

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 3>what he did in college. Every quarterback coming from college

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>to the pros has adjustments to make less or so,

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 3>and he's got skills that already made to plug into.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Both the offenses are all three of the offenses we've

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 3>talked about in terms of iterations of the Dolphins offense.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>So gonna be available later on down. But also a.

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Guy I think is going to add a little bit

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of shine to his star over the next four to

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:50.479
<v Speaker 3>five days.

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Jordan's quarterbacks for Colin McCord and Dylan Gabriel.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Just in case you were, oh, Dylan, I could absolutely

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>see Dylan if they were going for the same thing

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 3>they had into it, yeah, because he is a very

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>quick distributor, sees the ball or sees the field very well,

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 3>and he'll throw over the middle.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Even though I'll.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Tell you this, I was at a Lead eleven this

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.399
<v Speaker 3>summer got to see Dylan because every year they have

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 3>three guys back as alumni counselors.

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>For those of you that don't know, at Lead eleven.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Is a passing camp for top end high school prospects

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 3>who are getting ready to commit to college or have

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 3>already committed to college.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Dylan was one of the lum counselors.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 3>They came back, and I gotta say, there's a lot

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 3>of guys I don't recognize as specially from college, because

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 3>they wear helmets and this is just shirt and shorts

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 3>on a field in San Diego in the middle of July,

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 3>and I was with somebody and I said, who's that

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 3>he goes that's Dylan Gabriel, dude, And I was like, really, okay,

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Dylan's a little shorter.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Than I thought he was. But when you watch the tape,

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't play short.

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think also the fact that he has so

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>many college reps too, I can kind of bypass what

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins need in that position, which I think is

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>someone that's ready to step in and win games in

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, because the sure if two goes down,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you win. If they just win one more

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 1>of those games this year, they're probably playing January once again.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 2>So great stuff, EJ. You're the man.

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<v Speaker 1>this week here in India.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Bootlegs, you're gonna have a ton of content. We're

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<v Speaker 3>actually back on the field for drills. The NFL was

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<v Speaker 3>silly enough to put us back down there again, So

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<v Speaker 3>not only will you see field level content from drills,

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<v Speaker 3>but also we're going to get to record a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>on the field after drills conclude, So all that will be.

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<v Speaker 2>On Bootleg Channel on YouTube and Bear Era.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing live streams once a month in the off

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<v Speaker 3>season or so, making some connections here with some of

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<v Speaker 3>the Chicago press and some current Bear players, So look for.

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<v Speaker 2>All that on YouTube as well. At bear Era. Hard

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<v Speaker 2>work pays off, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>You do enough good hard work, you can find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>on the field of the scouting combine. Just like bretton AJJ,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time today, man, thank you. That's absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have the chance, and away he goes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and wrap the show up right there. Subscribe,

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<v Speaker 2>Fins up. Caroline and Cameron Daddy were just coming home.