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Speaker 2: My brother's fiance is bullying my sister. I finally had

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Speaker 2: enough get him out of there. You can't be a

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Speaker 2: bully to my family. You heard her, You heard her.

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Speaker 2: My brother's fiance, to say the least, is not a

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Speaker 2: very nice person. They've been together for two years, recently

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Speaker 2: got engaged and seems to be set to get married.

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Speaker 2: He loves her very much. I don't know why he's

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Speaker 2: enamored with her, but she really has a cruel, self

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Speaker 2: absorbed person street by the way, this comes from brothers

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but she seems to direct a

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Speaker 2: lot of vitriol towards our sister, putting her down on

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Speaker 2: saying mean things. She always accuses her of being a liar,

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Speaker 2: being dishonest and superficial and trying to paint her as

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Speaker 2: a bad person. My sister is very sweet and kind

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Speaker 2: and the loveliest person I've ever met. I don't like

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Speaker 2: the way that brother's fiance tries to cast her as

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Speaker 2: a liar and a bad person. Our brother has done

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Speaker 2: zilch in trying to stand up for our sister. He

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Speaker 2: normally just either brushes it aside or takes his fiance's side. Naturally,

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Speaker 2: this really upsets my sister, and in turn upsets me.

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Speaker 2: There are a number of issues and mean things in particular,

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Speaker 2: his fiance has said about our sister. All ist a

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Speaker 2: few of the main ones that really get to her.

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Speaker 2: On here, brother's fiance always seems to have this opinion

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Speaker 2: that our sister is a salute and she sleeps around

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Speaker 2: a lot and tries to hide it. Our family is Catholic,

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Speaker 2: though my brother and his fiance are not particularly religious

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Speaker 2: are quite religious. My sister says that she believes in

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Speaker 2: I believe in the same sentiment, and since that's what

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Speaker 2: fiance seems to never believe this and seems insistent on

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Speaker 2: the fact that our sister is a liar lying about

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Speaker 2: being a virgin. She says things like, no way a

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Speaker 2: and she went to college. No way she didn't sleep

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Speaker 2: that she would lie about it or stray, and I

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Speaker 2: my sister because this is the main thing my brother's

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Speaker 2: fiance is really adamant that she's lying about. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why. I think maybe because of her own insecurity

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Speaker 2: or something. It's made my sister cry more than a

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Speaker 2: few times, and she sometimes insinuates that she's a liar

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Speaker 2: to her face. She also says things about our sister

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Speaker 2: like the way she dresses definitely makes her look like

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Speaker 3: She's awful and also your brother is awful for not

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Speaker 3: putting a stop to this. Yeah, yeah, that's not cool

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Speaker 3: if they always show too much skin or too much

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Speaker 2: She says all those things. I think it's absurd because

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Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous to say that just because she

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Speaker 2: But again, literally, why is it any of your business?

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Speaker 3: Yea, even whether or not she's slept with anyone, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely. Other times she says things like nobody with

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Speaker 2: implying that just because she has large front airbags, she

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Speaker 2: her sleep around. I don't even follow that logic. Once

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Speaker 2: She always gets her crap for that and attacks her

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think my brother's fiance is a horrible person.

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Speaker 2: Every time I bring up her behavior with her, she'll

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Speaker 2: if there's one thing I can't stand to see is

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Speaker 2: his own sister or rebuke his fiance for what she did.

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Speaker 2: Does he gets angry if we say anything negative about her. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: best effort to avoid spending time with her, spending any

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Speaker 2: has received. Are we just are we justified in basically

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Speaker 2: cutting him out of our lives and not going to

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Speaker 2: a better solution? And there is an UPDATEO, But what

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Speaker 3: I think you're very valid in not wanting him or

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Speaker 3: it you know, it's he may not be saying these things,

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Speaker 3: but he is letting his fiance say them and therefore

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely absolutely, this is this is the

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Speaker 2: that's like the one person that would be able to

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Speaker 3: And like why would he even want to be with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Like if I was with a partner who kept, you know,

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Speaker 3: saying horrible things about my brother, I'd be like, ah bye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely, But we do have an update.

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Speaker 2: We have reached a decision. We are going to the wedding,

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Speaker 2: but from then on, we're going to basically dissociate our

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Speaker 3: It's like you had conversations with them, like this is

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Speaker 3: not just like cutting them off. It's like you try,

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Speaker 3: You've talked to them, and you've brought up that this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. I've been talking about it with

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Speaker 2: my sister. Apparently this is an issue she's really felt

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Speaker 2: sensitive about for a long time. As I mentioned, she's

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Speaker 2: I tried to reassure her. I told her most of

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Speaker 2: it seems like it was deeper than that. She told

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Speaker 2: before that, in school, because she developed early, she got

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Speaker 2: a lot of hate from other girls. Basically, she said,

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Speaker 2: our future sister in law reminded her exactly of those

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Speaker 2: girls who used to tease her for them at school

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Speaker 2: She has the body that many women would unlive people for.

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Speaker 2: It's the body God gave her. She's beautiful and amazing

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Speaker 2: All this time, I thought it was just sister in

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Speaker 2: a lot with my sister's perception of herself, and it's

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Speaker 2: been long standing. The issues with our brother and what

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Speaker 2: that she can't go to the wedding. So she responded

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Speaker 2: that she simply doesn't understand the fiance's obsession with belittling her,

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Speaker 2: hypothesized that maybe the fiance wasn't breastfed as a baby,

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Speaker 2: My sister told me that that comment was weird and

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Speaker 2: mess with everyone. She was like, Nah, that would be petty,

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Speaker 3: the all time. Ope, he was a man the all time. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was a joke, but what so anyway,

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Speaker 2: I told my sister that we still had plenty of

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Speaker 2: I think she was leaning towards going. But then there

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Speaker 2: was another pretty bad incident with our brother's fiance. I

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Speaker 2: probably wasn't as aware as he should be, but some

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Speaker 2: has been really bad and hurtful, including some of the insinuations.

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Speaker 2: I said. However, it wasn't too late to make amends.

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Speaker 2: A fresh start could still be in the works. He

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Speaker 2: and tried to talk her into being nicer to our

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Speaker 2: was really weird. After that, his fiance came and showed

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Speaker 2: to be nice to everyone. She was being especially forced

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Speaker 2: nice to my sister. She was like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: probably haven't said this, but I know you've been a

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Speaker 2: great help to all of us and setting everything up.

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Speaker 2: I know you'll absolutely look stunding, when you come to

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Speaker 2: our wedding and I can't wait to go to yours

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Speaker 2: as well. It was a really nice and sweet thing

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Speaker 2: They started talking and chatting about other things and seemed

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Speaker 3: handle a few things, which he did reluctantly and with exasperation,

430
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: before heading out.

431
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: To take a walk. Oh god.

432
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 3: We finally got on the road for what became a

433
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: torturous drive. The normally eight to nine hour drive ended

434
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: up being thirteen hours due to traffic. It would have

435
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 3: been a difficult journey to split between two drivers. Is

436
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: even worse because all the driving was on me. I

437
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: forgot okay again, Okay.

438
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to he doesn't like driving. Not cool, cool, baby,

439
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: your wife, Come on.

440
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: It was so awful that I booked one way flights home.

441
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: It would be easy to return the rental car to

442
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: the airport and take a short flight home versus driving

443
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: the rental car back. The pain of the punishing road

444
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: trip faded once our week long trip with friends got underway.

445
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoyed seeing people I normally do not see,

446
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 3: and felt at ease with pretty much everyone except my partner.

447
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: While these friends are also my partner's friends of ten

448
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 3: to twenty years and have been with us for life milestones,

449
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: he sulked and acted antisocial towards me and others who

450
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: he has been friendly with on previous occasions. He expressed

451
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: on the on the drive down that he would need

452
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: to do some work while we were on vacation and

453
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: brought his laptop. I did not foresee this being an

454
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: issue because many others we were with also remote work,

455
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: including a physician friend doing patient televisits, a creative friend

456
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: working on a screenplay over zoom, and a scientist calling

457
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: in for meetings. A few days into the vacation, I

458
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: received an email from the airline i'd booked flights with,

459
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: stating there had been a change to the itinerary.

460
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: It appeared the.

461
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: Flights had been changed to leave three days earlier. Than

462
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: schedule and from a different airport. I opened the email

463
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: as I was sitting on a couch facing two friends

464
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: on an opposite couch, and my husband was about twenty

465
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: feet behind them on the other side of the room.

466
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: I made a remark about it, thinking there was a

467
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: glitch of some sort, and my husband said, oh, I

468
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: did that that being changed his flight and his flight

469
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 3: only to leave from the closest airport midway through the

470
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: week to return home alone.

471
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: What it's wait, it's even crazier.

472
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: Yikes, yikes.

473
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: I was blindsided, and it showed to the point that

474
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: the couple facing me looked at me incredulously and mouthed WTF.

475
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: I was in shock that he would make a unilateral

476
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 3: decision to leave the kids and me midweek without telling

477
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: me or making an effort to discuss with me first.

478
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 3: I replied thanks for telling me to my husband and

479
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: asked why. He basically said he was leaving to return

480
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: home for work because he felt the house's internet connection

481
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 3: wouldn't be sufficient for his work needs. I excuse myself

482
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: and immediately called my sister, who's also my best friend,

483
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: to debrief. She validated that his actions were not appropriate,

484
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: as did the friends who witnessed the interaction. As news

485
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: spread throughout the house, our mutual friends also expressed his

486
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 3: belief or the situation. I didn't feel like I could

487
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: confront my husband about it because even simple conversations between

488
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 3: us can go sideways.

489
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Boy.

490
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: Pause, you need to confront your husband about it? Yeah,

491
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: before he leaves.

492
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: It's like, if you cannot communicate, you either have to

494
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: go to therapy and figure that out right or the

495
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: relationship cannot continue. But either way, god to have a conversation. Historically,

496
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: he is passive and offers minimal responses okay, sounds good,

497
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: or escalates the issue to eleven and shows rage in

498
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: his eyes and body language. He has never been physically

499
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: violent with me, but the unpredictability of his rage response

500
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: has left me feeling like I'm walking on eggshells when

501
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: I need to raise an issue. Relationship cannot work like this.

502
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: It can't if this is how he Yeah, if this

503
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: is how he is approaching it, it cannot work like this.

504
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: A few hours passed and he brought our kids into

506
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: the house in wet swimsuits. When I finished getting them

507
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 3: showered and changed, he appeared in the room we were

508
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: sharing for a moment. As he was walking out, I

509
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: approached him with the wet swimsuits and said, assertively and

510
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: somewhat heatedly, can you please take these outside?

511
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: He responded, you could ask me that nicely. I clat back.

512
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: You could have told me you were leaving early. I'm done.

513
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: We didn't speak after that, though my older child came

514
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: to me to tell me they knew he was leaving.

515
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: This hit me on a deep level because I am

516
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: a child of divorced parents who used me to deliver

517
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: information to each other. I found it beyond aft up

518
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: that my husband would talk to a school age child

519
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: about his plans but not their mom slash his wife. Yes, absolutely,

520
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: but also you are doing a somewhat similar thing with

521
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: everyone else in the house.

522
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: You're not talking to him about it. It's a good point.

523
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: Like again, like totally more messed up to talk to

524
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: your kids about it. Sure, but you're both just not

525
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: talking to each other, even though there were plenty of

526
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 3: kids around. I took our kids to my family's house

527
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: for New Years for New Year's Eve so that we

528
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: could stay up late and be carefree with friends. I

529
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: distanced myself for my husband, who got really wasted and

530
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: acted like he had undergone a personality transplant. I was

531
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: told he took mushrooms. He left the next day with

532
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: a simple goodbye and didn't bother to tell him. Many

533
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 3: others in the house he was on his way out,

534
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: including one of his best friends from college, dude. The

535
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: kids and I were fine for the remainder of the trip.

536
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: I am used to handling things anyway. However, those who

537
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: remained and are close to me were disgusted by my

538
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: husband's behavior and stated that he was selfish at minimum

539
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 3: or a self absorbed person. Worst case scenario disclosures in

540
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: side notes. I struggle with ADHD and I'm often overwhelmed.

541
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: He often expresses nonverbal annoyance and exasperation towards me, but

542
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: does not verbally communicate it. There is a lot of tension,

543
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: and our relationship hasn't been in a good place for

544
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: many years now. We are more like roommates who co

545
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: parent and no longer.

546
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: Sleep in the same room.

547
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: Our marriage lacks physical and emotional intimacy, and I have

548
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: long wondered if he's cheating, which he denies, or attracted

549
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: the same gender redriving. We live in a large city

550
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: and he gets around using mass transit and Uber. It's

551
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: a point of contention between us because all the driving

552
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: for kids slash family activities falls on me when something

553
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: happens outside of a transit Uber convenient area. The imbalance

554
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: has also been felt when I have need to seek

555
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: medical care.

556
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh, great point. You don't have anyone who could drive

557
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: me home. That's true.

558
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: I drove myself to the hospital in labor, Oh my god,

559
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: and had to recruit a relative to fly in and

560
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: help me because he couldn't be the one to transport

561
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: me when I needed surgery last year.

562
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Someone's gonna fly in because you just don't like driving.

563
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

564
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: You can't rely on this partner. No, we often do

565
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: not see ey to die am many matters. He can

566
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: be rigid and immature and seems to lack empathy. Communication

567
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: is a major problem in our relationship. Last year I

568
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: asked him to begin couple's therapy and we had a

569
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: handful of sessions with a Gattman therapists that were not productive.

570
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: The main takeaways were that my husband's stone walls and

571
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 3: shows contempt and criticism while I exhibit defensiveness. The New

572
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: Year's event came on the heels of me having a

573
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: lumpeg to me late last year. He was not supportive

574
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: and barely asked me how I was feeling or how

575
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: he could support me as I went through months of

576
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: diagnostics it's to determine if I had breast cancer. Ultimately,

577
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: the surgically removed tissue was benign.

578
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: Good.

579
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: My coworker's, immediate family and close friends were there for me,

580
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: but it's stung that he was so absent and uncaring

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: as I faced a possible answer diagnosis. I called him

582
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: out on it during our final session with our previous

583
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: couple's therapist, and he said that he didn't ask about

584
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: it because you thought the information I provided and was

585
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: too political.

586
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: Huh, what does that even mean?

587
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 3: He's like, you used too many big words, so I

588
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: don't want to hear about it.

589
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I'm not a doctor. I don't understand

590
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: all your fancy lingo. Like what that's just so mind

591
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: boggling to me weird At the time, he did not

592
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: apologize when I called him out on a trend of

593
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: him not stepping up for me when I needed support,

594
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: and instead issued his standard not apology, sorr, you feel

595
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: the way we are starting discernment therapy this week.

596
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: I have remained in this Marria mariage mostly to avoid

597
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: breaking up family, but it feels like there is no

598
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 3: coming back from this. He seems to have no idea

599
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: that I'm considering separation or divorce, and I haven't said

600
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: anything to him because I'm afraid of how he will respond.

601
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: I have a therapist who is aware of all of

602
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: this and is tremendously supportive, but wants to reach out

603
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: to others to see if anyone has experienced similar issues

604
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: in how they handled it, any words of wisdom, And

605
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: I have some words of wisdom for you, guys, and

606
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: that is that you can listen to full episodes of

607
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

608
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: or iHeartRadio and search up Okay story time.

609
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so smart, Oh yeah, so wise wise, But

610
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: there is a final update to the story. Do you

611
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: have any final thought? Well, I've never been in this situation. No,

612
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. If kids don't have a husband, that's true,

613
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: So I unfortunately cannot contribute in that way. But I

614
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: support you in the idea of divorcing.

615
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: You know, it seems like kind of shockingly op he

616
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: hasn't really brought that up in like a real way.

617
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm kind of just going based off

618
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: of the title.

619
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: But it seems like OPI has yet to actually say

620
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: I want a divorce, But it does seem right now,

621
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: you're not able to have a conversation with him. He's

622
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: not willing to listen even if you were you went

623
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: to therapy. I think you have to sit down and say, like,

624
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: right now, the way that we're going it isn't working.

625
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: Like you're not communicating with me when you want to

626
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: leave a trip, when you want to change plan a

627
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: huge thing, huge thing. I feel like you're like, right now,

628
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: I feel overwhelmed with how much responsibility is being put

629
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: on me with the kids because I'm the only driver,

630
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: and just kind of focusing on the things that you're

631
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: feeling like, I'm feeling overwhelmed, I'm feeling unheard.

632
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I good old eye statements, Yeah exactly.

633
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: And if he responds to that with like anger or aggression,

634
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: then it's then it. You know, it's such shows shows

635
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: you what what you need to do. But yeah, don't

636
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: go into that conversation with aggression. We met with a

637
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: couple's therapists and I shared these concerns. He accused me

638
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: of character assassination and smearing him when I recounted those events,

639
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: how they made me feel, how they were perceived by

640
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: our friends. We're getting divorced. Thanks to everyone for your

641
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: objective feedback. You collectively galvanize me to move in this

642
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: difficult but necessary direction.

643
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, the end of that story. There

644
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: you go. But they are going to get divorced.

645
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, which I mean honestly makes sense with how much

646
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: the communication I've broken down.

647
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: It's not much of a like relationship at this point now,

648
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: just just kind of existing next to each other.

649
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Speaker 3: For everyone you know who may be in a similar

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Speaker 3: situation where the communication is not working, you still have

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Speaker 3: to have a conversation about that. And you know, if

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Speaker 3: you need a to mediate like you, you want to

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Speaker 3: be communicating as much and as early as possible. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: make sure, like notice pick up on those signs of

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Speaker 3: how people respond to criticism, of how people respond to

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Speaker 3: you talking about your feelings, talking about if you're overwhelmed,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, because those Yeah, this could be indicators

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Speaker 3: of how they will respond in a marriage.

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Speaker 2: When you have kids. Yeah, absolutely, Hey.

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Speaker 1: It's John, your og host. Here. We're gonna get back

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Speaker 1: to the stories, but here's a quick three minute break

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Speaker 1: of ass from our sponsors. My husband's ex stepmother stole

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Speaker 1: his inheritance, so we cut her off.

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Speaker 2: Cut her off, I say.

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Speaker 1: Former stepmother in law, because her outrageous and horrible behavior

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Speaker 1: made her passed away to us, and at present time

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Speaker 1: I have no idea how or where she is. Also, sadly,

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Speaker 1: my husband will call him Jay also passed away at

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Speaker 1: a much too young of an age. Oh wow, very sorry,

670
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: and he passed away about a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 1: But I am blessed that we had more than twenty

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Speaker 1: five wonderful years together. And I also have our two

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Speaker 1: beautiful children who both look a lot like him. By

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Speaker 1: the way, this comes from mother of Peacock's And if

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Speaker 1: the r slash Okay story time suburn it. So to preface,

677
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Speaker 1: Jay lost his birth mom to a tragic car accident

678
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: when he was only seven years old. His dad, whom

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00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: my husband idolized, was absolutely devastated, but did his best

680
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: to raise his two young children, Jay and his older

681
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: sister on his own. His dad's job eventually relocated them

682
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: to another state, Cali four Naya to be precise. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome the state of US.

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00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: Several years later, his dad met the lady who would

686
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Speaker 1: become his wife and Jay's stepmom. We'll call her Looney,

687
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: like her and here we go. When Jay was a

688
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: freshman in high school, Looney got pregnant and brought Jay's

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Speaker 1: half sister, we'll call her Lunette, into the world. This

690
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: becomes very important later. Flash forward many years. Jay and

691
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: I meet, fall in love, moving together. A few years later,

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Speaker 1: he proposes to me on my birthday, making it the

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Speaker 1: best birthday of my life.

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00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: Wow.

695
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: My entire family was present for the proposal, but his

696
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: parents and Lunette had moved to Texas after Jake graduated

697
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: high school. We had visited them a few times, so

698
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know them. That evening we called his parents

699
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: to announce our engagement. After we shared our joyous news,

700
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: his dad told us that they were literally just about

701
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: to call us to share their own news. He had

702
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with stage four liver.

703
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Oh.

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00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: Wow, that's the bad. Yeah, this was a definitely good

705
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: news bad news kind of thing.

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to say I'm glad that the good

707
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: news came first. Yeah, but it's just a hard situation anyway. Yeah,

708
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was surreal.

709
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: At that time they just found out about so did

710
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: not have a prognosis or even a treatment plan from

711
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: his doctors, So we did not know if we had

712
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: a time limit or not. As terrible as that sounds,

713
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: Jay's dad told us to move forward with our wedding plans.

714
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: He would not let get in his way of being.

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00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: A couple of months later, we went and visited them,

716
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: and his dad's outlook was pretty good. He appeared to

717
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: be doing well and was responding well to chemotherapy. Good,

718
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: but being pragmatic, his dad also planned for the worst

719
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: and had updated his will. Mind you, he had a

720
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: very good job with a major company and had invested

721
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: very wisely. So with investments and his insurance policy, he

722
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: had more than three million dollars in assets. Whoa a

723
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: right good for you man. During the visit, Jay and

724
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Speaker 1: his dad talked privately about the changes to his will

725
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: in detail. Due to various tax laws in our retrospective states,

726
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: his dad had carefully structured the various payouts to have

727
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: the least impact from taxes as possible. Also very smart.

728
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: Defice it to say that the plan was for Jay

730
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Speaker 1: and his older sister to each receive around six hundred

731
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. He paid out in annuities of thirty K

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Speaker 1: a year, and the rest would be going to Looney

733
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Speaker 1: and Lunette, with various contingencies being placed on the money

734
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Speaker 1: for Lunette until she was eighteen. She was thirteen at

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Speaker 1: this time. To note that Looney did not know about

736
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: this conversation. Sadly, Jay's dad took a serious turn for

737
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: the worse a couple of months after our visit, and

738
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: we were suddenly being told that we needed to come

739
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: visit as soon as possible and prepare to say our goodbyes.

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00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: Wow, that's hard.

741
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Speaker 1: We immediately flew out, and within days his dad had passed.

742
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: The funeral took place back east where Jay's dad's family was,

743
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Speaker 1: and this was the first real evidence of Looney's craziness

744
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: aka the name started to earn that Daffy Duck comes out.

745
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jay and I could not attend, but found

746
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: out much later from other family members what a debacle

747
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: Looney made of it, and the spectacle she made of herself.

748
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: In less than a month Since Jay's dad had passed,

749
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: Looney had quit her job and gone in an insane

750
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: spending spree, buying a brand new house, a new convertible Camaro,

751
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: new wardrobes for herself and for a lunette, and was

752
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: apparently flashing cash and madly throwing money around during her

753
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: visit back east for the funeral.

754
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: Wow, bad habits.

755
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you know. Losing a loved one does make

756
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: you do crazy things. It does make your brain process

757
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: things a lot at once. I get it, But this

758
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: is not the way to process that.

759
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, retail therapy is definitely not as good as actual therapy.

760
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Speaker 1: She made a mockery of the memorial service where instead

761
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: of respectively spreading the ashes at the lake where Jay

762
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: and his dad grew up, she skipped around the adjacent

763
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: golf course, carelessly tossing the ashes around while the rest

764
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Speaker 1: of the family looked on in horror. Oh wow, Yeah,

765
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: I think losing Jay's dad or losing her husband did

766
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Speaker 1: make her go a little looney. Looney has been named

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Speaker 1: as an executor of the will and of the first

768
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars annuinity that Jay and his older sister

769
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: were supposed to receive. They each only got ten thousand

770
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: dollars each. When asked, she claimed that it was what

771
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: the will said. Jay initially gave her the benefit of

772
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: the doubt that she would make good on the rest

773
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: before the year was out and use the money to

774
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: buy a new motors cycle that he had been wanting.

775
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: Note that we had only one car at this time.

776
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: By this time, our wedding date had been set for

777
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: about six months later, in plans had been well under

778
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: way taking up majority of Jay's in my own spare time.

779
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: We eventually heard about the funeral and spending spree, and

780
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: after Jay's brand new motorcycles vandalized it subsequently totaled. He

781
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: exploded at Looney, telling her that he knew the truth

782
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: of the will and that she owed him the remaining

783
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars or she and Lunette were not welcome

784
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: to come to the wedding, let alone be a part

785
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: of it. It was pretty much radio silence from them

786
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: after that until the wedding. Two days before the wedding,

787
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: Looney and Lunette showed up at our apartment, Loody driving

788
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: her new convertible Camaro along with a driver that she

789
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: paid to transport the new Camaro that she said she

790
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: bought for Jay as a wedding gift. Jay was shocked

791
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: but grateful. Thankfully, the wedding was incredible and everything we

792
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: had hoped it would be, with one minor instance, Looney

793
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: recovering every drinker got stinking waste, did at the reception,

794
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: making a big scene, started blubbering about how Jay's dad

795
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: should have been there and had to be escorted out

796
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: and driven to her hotel. I need to point out

797
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: that no one had ever seen her shedded tear about

798
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: Jay's dad at the funeral or otherwise. Our interactions with

799
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: Looney and Lunette were cordial but minimal after that, until

800
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: Jay asked Looney for some of his belongings that had

801
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: been packed and moved with her and his dad when

802
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: they moved to Texas, as well as some of his

803
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: dad's things that he valued and hoped to keep. There

804
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: were a couple of very specific boxes that contained Jay's

805
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: high school memorabilia and other keepsakes and albums, but Jay

806
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: had been in and out of apartments, so he asked

807
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: his parents to hang on to them until there was

808
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: more time and he was more staple. Looney told him

809
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: that she didn't know where his boxes were and that

810
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: she would look into it as well as his dad's items.

811
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Speaker 1: We didn't hear a pee from either Loonie or Lynette

812
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: for the next three years. Jay and his older sister

813
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: never saw another annuinity. We had since moved from our

814
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: apartment into a house with our new baby boy, Congratulations,

815
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: who was about ten months old. When Jay went to

816
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: leave work to pick up our son from daycare, only

817
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: we defined his car was missing. His car had our

818
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 1: only car seat in it, and he panicked. He called

819
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: the police, and long story short, found out that Looney

820
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: had hired someone to repoe it or repossess it. Unfortunately,

821
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: to avoid having to have his supercharged Camaro altered for

822
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: California missions, Jay hadn't never transferred the title from Looney

823
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: to himself to on paper, the car still belonged to Looney.

824
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: You can't trust the word out of this woman's mouth.

825
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Also, I would try to find a copy of that will. Oh, yes,

826
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: she's an executor of the will, so she may have

827
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: changed it.

828
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: Uh, how's that allowed? I don't know, change the will.

829
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, he should have

830
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: had a copy of the will if when he knew

831
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: his dad was passing. That's one of the things I

832
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: about wills. It sucks. The police managed to get her

833
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: on the phone. She went to answer Jay's calls and

834
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: over her insane shrieking that it was her car and

835
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: she had the right to take it back. They calmly

836
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: explained that while that may not be the case, the

837
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: property inside it did not belong to her, and she

838
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: had twelve hours to return our property or we would

839
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: press charges. I managed to borrow a car seat from

840
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: a coworker and picked up Jay and our son. When

841
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: we arrived home, we found our car seat and all

842
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: our other belongings sitting in the driveway, with signs that

843
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: someone had attempted to enter the house. Doing the math,

844
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: we realized that Lunette was now sixteen. Later that year,

845
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: we found out from Jay's older sister that luniy Lynette

846
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: had squandered all three million dollars, including the seven hundred

847
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars that had been put into our

848
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: trust for Lunette until she turned eighteen.

849
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot of money.

850
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?

851
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

852
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Loony looney? Did in fact take the Camaro back because

853
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: she had no money left to buy Lunette a car,

854
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: and she felt entitled to and justified in taking Jay's.

855
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: We also found out that Looney had pawned the items

856
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: that Jay had wanted that belonged to his dad, and

857
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: had burned Jay's keepsakes in retribution, burned them his high

858
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: school things like that he was looking for. He's like, hey, dude,

859
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: if someone doesn't tell you, you know, when you ask

860
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: him something really nice, like hey, some of my boxes

861
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: are still at home. Yeah. If they don't responding like

862
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: a month, that's one thing. If they don't respond three

863
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: years about it, yeah, I would just go and check.

864
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: Right, Just go get him yourself.

865
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: Hey, pay them a visit, right, Yeah.

866
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Before they burn your kids into the sky.

867
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy. In the end, Jay only had a few

868
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: pictures of his dad and other small things like his

869
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: dad's watch that we got from him the last time

870
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: we visited. He was to say. We went no contact

871
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: with them after that, but didn't formally block them from anything.

872
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: We just ceased contact and never heard anything from them.

873
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: By the way, you can hear from us by listening

874
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Speaker 1: to full episodes every day with stories just like this.

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Speaker 1: and get your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime,

877
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: we have a little bit left to this story. But Angie,

878
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: it seems like we're aready going no contact. Yeah, which

879
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: is great, but great idea.

880
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm very glad that they're going no contact.

881
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: I would like to see like the will itself or

882
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: because that money belongs to you, right and she can't

883
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: keep it all to herself. I know she probably. I

884
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: don't know the lealities of wills and how it works.

885
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

886
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I'm not a well knowledged man.

887
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: On wills, not a lawyer, will myself personally.

888
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let us know, Like, if you're the executor of

889
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: the will, does that mean you can literally change everything

890
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: about the will? I don't know. But if there was

891
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: a verbal agreement that, hey, someone said you can do this,

892
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works. So let's know in

893
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: the comments what you can and cannot do. But Looney

894
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: is straight off the looney bin right.

895
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: Here, absolutely very well named this one.

896
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: This is the first time I heard like a looney,

897
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: which is a really good nickname for characters here. I

898
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: don't think Lunette is that fault here. You can't really

899
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: call her Lunette. I know she's a daughter of movie,

900
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: but Lunette seems like she's just a sixteen year old girl.

901
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: That's just like, what do I do?

902
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know if she's done anything, and I.

903
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: Don't think he has done anything wrong. Yeah, so it's

904
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: all on the mom here. On looney, let's finish the

905
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: story until about three years after the Kamaro incident, Jay

906
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: gets a message from Lunette telling him that she's getting

907
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: married and she wants him to walk her down the aisle.

908
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: Jay was aghast and proceeded to tell her all the

909
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: reasons why there was no effing way he would ever

910
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: dean to honor such a request from her after everything

911
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: that she and her mom put him flush us through.

912
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: Lunette sends him a viittrioltic reply, telling him what a

913
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: horrible person he is and that her mom is right

914
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: that he deserved everything he got, then instantly blocked him,

915
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: But she didn't block me at first. I sent her

916
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: one final text setting the record straight, and that was

917
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: the last we ever heard from them.

918
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's it?

919
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: WHOA that was it? Hey, it's Sam, your ogi host here,

920
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Speaker 1: bring it back to the stories. But here's three minutes

921
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922
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Speaker 2: Sponsored I took in my fiance's mother. Now she competes

923
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: with me.

924
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: Ooh, you gotta have a gauntlet, you know, like I

925
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: was like, who makes the best dishes? You can like

926
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,280
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927
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Speaker 1: Take all.

928
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 2: Trigger warning there is mentions of parential abuse in this story,

929
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: so if you might get triggered by that, please carry

930
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: on to another story or episode. The players Me twenty

931
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: two female, Beyonce, Eddie twenty five male, mother in law

932
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: Dana fifty five female sister in law one, Sharon twenty

933
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: three female sister in law two, Carrie twenty one female

934
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: and father in law Eli deceased. And then finally Bob

935
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: thirty five male, our friend and tenant. Everyone write that

936
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: down and take some notes. I just remember Bob. Yeah,

937
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: we got Bob, Bob, Me, Eddie, Dana, Sharon, Carrie, Eli,

938
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: and Bob. All right, you will refer back just like

939
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: a map in the beginning of a fantasy series.

940
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: All right, I know, Bob. That's it, by the.

941
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: Way, that comes from deleted And if you want to

942
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: submit your own stories, just go to the ur slash Okay,

943
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: storytime separated it so long, story short. I come from

944
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: a very harmful background. I went no contact with my

945
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: parents last year. My now fiance, Eddie, opened my eyes

946
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: to the traumatics and helped me escape them. I was

947
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: diagnosed with bipolar disorder earlier this year and am in therapy.

948
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: I take antidepressants and am working on getting disability. Before

949
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: I went no contact, I inherited a decent amount of

950
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: money from a grandparent, which I spent on a nice

951
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: house in another city away from my family. Other than

952
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: my younger sister, who is still a minor, my family

953
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: is not involved in my life. I met Eddie in

954
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: college and have been with him for three years. We

955
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: plan on eloping later this year. Eddie always had a

956
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: strained relationship with his family, especially his sister Sharon, but

957
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: I never really understood why Sharon hated me upon meeting

958
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: me due to a bad first impression, and despite living

959
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: on the other side of the country and only meeting

960
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: me three times, she obsessively trashes me whenever my name

961
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: is brought up. Carry and I got along well enough

962
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: until we had a falling out and she accused me

963
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: of my fiance into submission because he took my side.

964
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: I realized a lot of our relationship was us doing

965
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: things for her and her using and insulting us. So

966
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: I cut her out of my life, get her out

967
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: of there, big old cuts. Both of his sisters are

968
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: self absorbed people, and we want no contact with either

969
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: of them. Eddie's father, Eli passed away this year. His

970
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: family had always been poor, and his mother, Dana, was

971
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: left in a lot of debt. I gave her five

972
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to help her with the funeral in her debts,

973
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: and invited her to move in with us when our

974
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 2: house was foreclosed, since neither of his sisters was willing

975
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: to take her in. Dana seemed nice enough. We had

976
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: a lot of things in common on the surface, and

977
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: I figured we'd get along fine. I continued to financially

978
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: support her, took her to events, took her on our dates,

979
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: bought her dinner, and bought her various gifts. I spent

980
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: a lot of my time with her trying to build

981
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: a relationship. I noticed that there always seemed to be

982
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: a large distance between Dana and Eddie, But when I

983
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: questioned her she wouldn't admit to anything. Then I started

984
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: noticing her behavior. When Eddie and I went out on

985
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: a date alone, she would get huffy and short with

986
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: me afterwards. She would bring her rowdy friends over every

987
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: so often when I would sleep in on Sunday, and

988
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: she expected me to run to buy them food, like

989
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: be a servant for this woman. Come on.

990
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 1: She got compliant like dan, oh, this is my life now.

991
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

992
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: He op, he's my little mate.

993
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no. She never seemed to believe the stories

994
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 2: about my even though both my fiance and sister corroborated them.

995
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: When we did anything together, she would obsessively try to

996
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: beat me, sometimes grinding in games for days on end,

997
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: only to bragg to me she had to be the

998
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: best at everything. Whenever I messed up, she would snipe

999
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: at me and criticize me behind my back to Eddie,

1000
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: who told me everything. When Eddie paid more attention to

1001
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: me than her, she would get upset and act catty

1002
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: towards me. She's literally like a regular user. She needs

1003
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: a constant supply of attention or she goes into withdrawal

1004
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: and gets petty. We each have two cats, and she

1005
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: would obsessively try to get me my cats to like

1006
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: her better and get jealous if her cats approached me.

1007
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: She would always sit at the head of the tabe

1008
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: and sit me furthest away with Eddie in the middle.

1009
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: Whenever I asked her to clean or do anything, she

1010
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: would either refuse or get hostile with me. She complained

1011
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: about everything I did, from cooking to cleaning to my personality.

1012
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: At one point I ended up in the hospital due

1013
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: to my bipolar disorder. We asked her not to tell

1014
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: anyone now. Dana has a very unhealthy relationship with Sharon.

1015
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: She literally lives vicariously through her. Of course, Eddie overheard

1016
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: her telling Sharon about it. She even put the phone

1017
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: speaker on when we were all in the living room

1018
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: and allowed Sharon to trash me over the phone. Sharon

1019
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: is obsessed with having the first grandchild. I am child free,

1020
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: and one time Dana kept telling her you will give

1021
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: me my first grandchild while she was witching about me.

1022
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: When I confronted her about it later, she told me

1023
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: that Sharon just tells it like it is. Dana pretty

1024
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: much requires me to drive her everywhere since she just

1025
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: doesn't like driving. However, she's willing to drive thirty miles

1026
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: away to go see her friends, yet she won't drive

1027
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: two miles to get me my medicine when I'm not

1028
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: able to drive. Additionally, due to Eddie wrecking my car

1029
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: earlier this year, as well as my furnace not working anymore,

1030
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: I ended up running out of money and and working

1031
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: on getting disability. Despite my supporting her for several months

1032
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: and her still owing me several thousand, Danny complains that

1033
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: I am an irresponsible leech. I barely ask her for

1034
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: anything other than a minimal amount of food, and she

1035
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: still complains, all right, come on, nothing is good enough

1036
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: for this one.

1037
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so nothing will please you and everything you do

1038
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: is right? Yeah? Cool, cool, great cool.

1039
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: She refused to pay me back most of the money,

1040
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: stating that she was saving up for bankruptcy. She has

1041
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: gotten close and yet blown her bankruptcy fund several times

1042
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: on stuff like grilling supplies and a trip out of state.

1043
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: Yet I'm the bad guy for asking for fifty bucks

1044
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: a month when she still owes me for grand All.

1045
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Right, this is where we go and talk to your husband. Yes, so, mom,

1046
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1047
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: You gotta step in, guy, You gotta start sending boundaries

1048
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: with this woman because I can't. Yeah, she has started

1049
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: paying me as of two months ago, but she complains

1050
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: about it constantly. Probably the biggest reason I have a

1051
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: problem is that Dana is flat out neglectful to her cat.

1052
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: Their litter box is always dirty, and she rarely changes

1053
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: their food and water. She doesn't bother to clean their

1054
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: pee and throw up off the floor, especially not if

1055
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: I tell her to do it. She's literally a child,

1056
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: It really is an irresponsible child.

1057
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to do that. No, And you

1058
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: wonder why the cats don't like you?

1059
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, come on. Her room can be smelled from

1060
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: the kitchen former duplex. The whole side of the house

1061
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: smells terrible. One time a cat pete in her shoes

1062
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: and she left it for four days because I told

1063
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: her to clean it. Some of the puke stains near

1064
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: the cat bowls have been there for months. I even

1065
00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: found cockroaches in her room feeding on it. That's discussing you,

1066
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: Oh my.

1067
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Gosh, she's Dana's so high and mighty yeah being told

1068
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: what to do, or at least like, hey, there's puke

1069
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: on the floor and there's cockroaches. Yeah, She's like, well,

1070
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: you want me to do that clean it. I'm not

1071
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna do that.

1072
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: She's willing to live in absolute filth just to prove

1073
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: a point.

1074
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1075
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: Crazy. Our new lodger, Bob, who was Dana's friend for years,

1076
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: told me that Dana was out of line and that

1077
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: there were things going on in their household that I

1078
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't previously know about. He told me that Eli used

1079
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: to get physical with Eddie and that various other bad

1080
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: things happened to cut to the chase. I confronted Eddie

1081
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: about this behavior. He defended his mom at first, but

1082
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: eventually broke down and admitted that he was afraid of

1083
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: the consequences of going against her. Eddie is very closed

1084
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: off about his feelings. He revealed to me that his

1085
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: sister Sharon basically was psychotic and at one point broke

1086
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: down a solid wood door to get to him, like

1087
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: the shining kind of thing. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

1088
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: You're Sharon.

1089
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. She go into rages and pester him

1090
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: for hours. Both of his sisters would torment him, his

1091
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: parents would side with them or refuse to get involved,

1092
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: and his sisters were given parties in large rooms and

1093
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: trips and he never got anything of the sort. His

1094
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: mother never had the time for him or paid him

1095
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: any attention. His father verbally mistreated him and also got

1096
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: physical with him. He was stuck in a tiny, half

1097
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: finished room filled with sawdust, and he's allergic and splinters.

1098
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: He's literally Harry Potter, like.

1099
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: This actually is Harry Potter, but like there's no reason

1100
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 2: for all this, He's not, like.

1101
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: This is real.

1102
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness. His bed had bed bugs and

1103
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: nobody did anything until they spread to the other rooms.

1104
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: After his sister destroyed his door, he was blamed and

1105
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: had no door, so he barricaded himself in his room

1106
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: with his mattress. His psychological was so severe that he

1107
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: basically suffered some memory loss in an attempt to block

1108
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 2: it out. He's terrified of his family and has gone

1109
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: along with everything because they will gang up on him

1110
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: if he doesn't. Frankly, after hearing this, I want Dana out.

1111
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: I've had enough of her petty, jealous, controlling and ungrateful behavior.

1112
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: And to top it all off, now I found out

1113
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: that she enabled the of my fiance. However, I'm afraid

1114
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: of evicting her.

1115
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: She has nowhere to go that sucks to suck honestly,

1116
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 1: if that's the case, Yeah, if you're dealing with someone

1117
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: that just and that just just toxic, yeah, don't deal

1118
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: with it.

1119
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean she I know they mentioned that the

1120
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: other sisters like couldn't take her in for some reason,

1121
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: but either can you.

1122
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Which, so she has her sisters that she highly favors.

1123
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: Why don't you go stay with them?

1124
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: Exactly? They can figure it out. You don't have to

1125
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: be the one to do that. Also, Eddie wants to,

1126
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: but he feels that he's not ready to confront her.

1127
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: He thinks that she's an innocent victim, manipulated and taken

1128
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: advantage of by her daughters. He's also scared his sisters

1129
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: will gang up on him and pester him. He's convince

1130
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: that he can force her to go no contact. He

1131
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: lives his life and fear of all of them. And

1132
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm tired of waiting for him to grow a backbone.

1133
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, yeah, I was gonna say, give him

1134
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of leeway. You have to talk to

1135
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: him about it, take him to some therapy, yes, because

1136
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: this is what his life has been, you know, right,

1137
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: and cannot be like all right, now, you need to

1138
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: stand up to your mom and your sister's the man.

1139
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: The man had literal memory loss because he was so traumatized.

1140
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: That is serious stuff. Yeah, I agree. I think try

1141
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: to be forgiving for him as much as you can.

1142
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: But I do kind of see what she's saying where

1143
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: it's like, at a certain point she can't just like

1144
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: stand by and like let this happen.

1145
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: I think step by step. But ye, not saying your

1146
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: husband or fiance in this case doesn't have a backbone.

1147
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too far fetched to

1148
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we just found out about this, and

1149
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: he's also just like come to terms with all this.

1150
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: It's very he's so processing.

1151
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best way to support him is eliminating those

1152
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: things that you know that he's afraid of.

1153
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, not by.

1154
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: Taking them out, just by saying like yeah, yeah, yeah,

1155
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: just like make sure you get it out of his life,

1156
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: or you know, limiting the contact as much as you can.

1157
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm really not sure what to do anymore. I'm starting

1158
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 2: to get frustrated with how wishy washy he's been about

1159
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: the whole thing. But at the same time, he's dealing

1160
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: with some serious Stockholm syndrome. I guess I need help

1161
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: getting his mother out of our lives and helping him

1162
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: pick up the pieces with as little damage as possible. Also,

1163
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: Eddie is aware of this post if anyone has advice

1164
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: for him directly, and we do have an update, but

1165
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: do we have any further advice for this situation for Eddie?

1166
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: You need to one mm hm therapy. Just that is

1167
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: such a big thing that needs to You need to

1168
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: talk to someone about it and maybe even talk to

1169
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: your family about it, just to let the let that's

1170
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 1: in the air. Yeah, if they just tease you about

1171
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: it or don't care then you know, or they stand

1172
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: then you then you're like, okay, listen, you guys did

1173
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: all this from my childhood till now. I'm afraid of you.

1174
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: You know. It's not even like this is like like

1175
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: sibling banter or like oh siblings like haha. It's like

1176
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm terrified, literally afraid. Yeah yeah, so, and I can't.

1177
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I can't stand up to you guys because that was

1178
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: the life I had as a child, and that's his

1179
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: in his mental trauma and it's just traumatic past that

1180
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: he's that little kid that he's like I'm barricading my

1181
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: door with my mattress. That's insane.

1182
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: That is that is absolutely insane. And there's like that

1183
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: line where Opie says he's convinced that he can force

1184
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: her to go no contact with them, like if he

1185
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: confronts the mom or the sisters. But maybe you can

1186
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 2: start considering if that's a bad thing, you know, which

1187
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: maybe that's what's best.

1188
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Show him the positive side of Hey, if you do

1189
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: this or you stand up for yourself, maybe they will

1190
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: respect you. Or if you sell this, hey maybe they

1191
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: will understand. But that's one of those things of what

1192
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: if you have to do it first.

1193
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would even offer as op to, like

1194
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: I mean, does Eddie need to be the one to

1195
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: confront like can I understand? Like giving him that control?

1196
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 2: I think that is good. But you can maybe offer like, hey,

1197
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: if you don't want to do it, I.

1198
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: Can, yes, but I would. It's one of those things

1199
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: like you know, you want to pick up this like

1200
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: what OPI said, Yeah, pick up those pieces very carefully, Yes,

1201
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: because if you do it yourself or if you do

1202
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: it for him, it No, it should be for him

1203
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: and for himself.

1204
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: But we do have an update. Oh and for the record,

1205
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: I own my home. I inherited some money from my

1206
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: grandmother and bought a rather large house with it. There

1207
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: is no mortgage, and currently I'm the only person on

1208
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: the title, so I am the landlord. There is no

1209
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: actual lease with Dana and Bob, but there is a

1210
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: verbal agreement that they will contribute to his bills in

1211
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: lieu of rent, keeping their portion of the house clean,

1212
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: and treat us with respect. She has broken all of

1213
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: these terms, and he has broken none of them.

1214
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: If that's a verbal agreement with Bob, why are we

1215
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: even brought Bob knows about this, So what's okay?

1216
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's browns in itself.

1217
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: You have a little proof of like, hey, yeah, she's

1218
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: not you know, it's not working out. She's not doing

1219
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: what she said she was going to do.

1220
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: Long story short, Eddie and I got in an argument

1221
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: about Dane's behavior, and he snapped and got angrier than

1222
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: he's ever been with me before. I literally was fighting

1223
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: in my therapist's waiting room with him and felt at

1224
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: an all time low. I decided to dump him when

1225
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: I came out of my appointment. WHOA, I was not

1226
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: expecting that me neither. Oh my gosh. When I came

1227
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: out to him. His head was hung low and his

1228
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: face was red. I informed him that I was evicting

1229
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: his mother later that week and he was going with her.

1230
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: He looked me in the eye and told me he

1231
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: understood and began crying. He told me he understood just

1232
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: how bad things were. His family had easily siphoned five

1233
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: digits worth of money off of me, including him, his

1234
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: car keeps sneating expensive repairs, and I had taken torrents

1235
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: of verbal diarrhea from his sisters. He apologized for his

1236
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: behavior and told me, regardless of what happened to me,

1237
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: he was cutting all three of them, mother in law,

1238
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: sister in law out of his life and going to therapy.

1239
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: We ended up talking for a while and Eddie revealed

1240
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: that the reason that he had taken his mother's side

1241
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: for so long was that he was in denial about

1242
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: the relationship. He realized that Dana didn't love him at

1243
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: all and only wanted his attention when his sisters weren't

1244
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: around and I was. She only paid attention to him

1245
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: out of her own jealousy and loneliness. She didn't really

1246
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: care about him at all. He realized now that Piney

1247
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: for her love wasn't healthy and that he was done

1248
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: doing her favors if he was getting nothing in return.

1249
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: My own mother is very psychopathic and incapable of love,

1250
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: so I understood. I told Eddie that I would give

1251
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: him one last chance, but I wanted him to pay

1252
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: me back his whole family's debt by supporting me while

1253
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: I got back on my feet and got ready to

1254
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: work and go on disability. I also told him that,

1255
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: depending on his actions over the next few months, I

1256
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: may still dump him.

1257
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

1258
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to unpack.

1259
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: There, there's a lot. Yeah.

1260
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: I feel for Eddie because of course, you know, when

1261
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: you're in and in a relationship, you can't. It's very

1262
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: hard to see, especially if this has been your parent,

1263
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: your family, your whole family, and over your whole life.

1264
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: And I also feel for Op too, because Op is

1265
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: just like, I'm tired around a waiting and they're also

1266
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: taking literally big chunks of money from me, and no,

1267
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 1: there's zero respect here and I'm getting barely you know,

1268
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: a dime back, But that's that's between his family and you,

1269
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: and he's working through things. Yeah, and I don't I

1270
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: don't like the you know, if you do this, maybe

1271
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: we can still get back together, or like I still

1272
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: may don't. Yeah, you don't do that.

1273
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: I know. I I'm never a fan of like that

1274
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: feels like an ultimatum of being like, like, if you

1275
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: do this, like I'll I'll break up with you. You know.

1276
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever like a healthy thing to

1277
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: put on in a relationship. Yeah, but I do get

1278
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: what she's kind of trying to say. I think of

1279
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: like being like, but yeah, I thought I was going

1280
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 2: to break up with you. I'm going to give you

1281
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: another chance, but like you know, it's not going to

1282
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: be back to normal right away.

1283
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: That's that's a totally different conversation. But the way Opie

1284
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: stated was you're kind of doing it out of fear now, like, yeah,

1285
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: if you don't do this or if they don't really

1286
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: go back, if you don't really show me that you're

1287
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: working on it, I still may dump you. Yeah. I

1288
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: think that's like you're kind of like threatening him, right.

1289
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: I think there was a way to say that.

1290
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: There's a much better way of saying, Hey, you know,

1291
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I care about you. I want to give us another shot.

1292
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: It may not be back to normal what it is,

1293
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: and what it was, but I'm still willing to try

1294
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: as long as you're willing to try.

1295
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 2: Eddie was a changed man over the next few weeks.

1296
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: He started actively planning her eviction, taking legal steps, and

1297
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: working on rebuilding our relationship, including spending time with me

1298
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: and not on his computer. Things haven't been better, things

1299
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: haven't been better in over a year. However, I'm keeping

1300
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: my eye on him to make sure that he doesn't revert.

1301
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: She was served the eviction last weekend. She went from

1302
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: shock to denial to angrily blaming me within thirty seconds.

1303
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: It was astounding. She started shooting her mouth off about

1304
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: how she'd done us favors, helping us pay the bills.

1305
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: It was astounding because she still owes me thousands. I

1306
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: supported her and her son and another person financially for

1307
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: four to five months, and she uses the utilities and

1308
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 2: doesn't think that she should pay. Apparently. She also called

1309
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: me over sensitive because the pea smell in her room

1310
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: wasn't that bad and she's never actually seen cockroaches in there,

1311
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: and there are cockroaches in your kitchen. Maybe if you

1312
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 2: stopped leaving expired food in your fridge. Yeah, it's all

1313
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: just her fault, going back to her again again.

1314
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: She is always going to be I'm always right, exactly

1315
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: always wrong.

1316
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: Within three minutes of the conversation ending, we started getting

1317
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: bombarded by Sharon. I haven't seen that much vitriol from

1318
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: anyone in my whole life. Sharon sent my fiance dozens

1319
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: of insanely long messages detailing how she'd always hate me

1320
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: and all my slides against her, even though she's really

1321
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: only met me three times and only talked to me once.

1322
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: She emphasized how bad our home was, the way I

1323
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: run it, how Dana does all our chores a lie,

1324
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: she doesn't even do her, and she even went as

1325
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: far as to mock my cooking. Dana always complains about

1326
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: my weird her words, cooking. I'm a white girl with

1327
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: a passion for Asian culture, and I cook a lot

1328
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: of exotic food from scratch. Apparently, Dana, who's cooking consists

1329
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: of heating up a bag of pasta and the stove,

1330
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: told Sharon just how awful and disgusting my food was.

1331
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: If you didn't like the food, then why did you

1332
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: eat it?

1333
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just makes up make your micromievable noodles, dude. Yeah,

1334
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: it stung a lot, because cooking is my passion and

1335
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: she literally is the only person who doesn't like my food.

1336
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: Most of all, it did reaffirm that she was passing

1337
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: her information anyway. That night, I was called a witch,

1338
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: a sea word, a witch, a slime, a bad girlfriend,

1339
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: and some other things that I don't even want to repeat.

1340
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: She called him a coward and told him that I

1341
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: had removed his balls. She threatened to send us both

1342
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: to Heck personally if she wasn't in another state. Well

1343
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: that's a threat at that, that's like an actual concerning that.

1344
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: I'd love to see you try. There you go, there

1345
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: you go, But it looks like you're getting evicted, So yeah,

1346
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: go find a place first before you do anything else.

1347
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: He told her he wanted no more contact, but she

1348
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: persisted through text and Facebook. She even started messaging Bob

1349
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: about how he was a trader and how could he

1350
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: do this to his poor mother. She told him to

1351
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: contact her, gave him her number. He has no phone

1352
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: and she knows this and immediately blocked him on Facebook

1353
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: is only way of contacting her. She's so stupid.

1354
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: I love this.

1355
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: Bob got involved and talked to Dana, but she pretty

1356
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: much was spitting vitriol about how I turned her son

1357
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: against her and she wasn't paying anything next month, and

1358
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: how could you betray me after we've been friends for

1359
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: so long. Nowhere did she apologize or think about her actions.

1360
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: If she had at least done that, I would have

1361
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: given her a lot more time to find a place

1362
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: than I did. So now we're at a point where

1363
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: nobody in the house other than Bob is really talking

1364
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: to Dana. She's completely bitter and making excuses about how

1365
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: she has nowhere to go and can't afford it. Apparently

1366
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: she told Bob that she she's decided to move across

1367
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: the country and live with Sharon. Sharon smartly is renting

1368
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: her an apartment in the same complex instead of moving

1369
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: her in. But considering how extremely needy, jealous, and competitive

1370
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: Dana is, I'm assuming she will virtually move into their

1371
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: space anyway and try to break them up like she

1372
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: did with us, so that she can have Sharon to herself.

1373
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: She's also not coming to our wedding and is cutting

1374
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: us both out, so that takes care of that for us.

1375
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: I guess I'm here because I'm just in shock. I

1376
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: can't believe that Dana could be so cold to her

1377
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: own son, I can She's never really seemed to care

1378
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: about him much. She's always jumped through fire for her daughters,

1379
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: but she leeches off of her son no problem. She

1380
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: accused him of selling out to me, and she wants

1381
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: nothing to do with him now. She completely ignores us

1382
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 2: both and accuses us of shunning her to Bob, I've

1383
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: just been giving her space these past few days, but

1384
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: she still has over a month here, and I'm getting

1385
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: so tired of her behavior. I'm sickened by how she

1386
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: treats my fiance and how I've been letting her use

1387
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: us for a year. I guess if I need help

1388
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: with anything, it's how to han. I'm tired of constantly

1389
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: hearing her make accusations at us, seeing her daughters on

1390
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: us when we make her mad, and just being openly nasty.

1391
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: At least she has shown Eddie her true color. She's

1392
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: also planning on bringing Sharon, who threatened us here, to

1393
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 2: help her move across the country. I do not want

1394
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: this crazy woman in my house. Sharon is the head

1395
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: manager at her workplace. I'm thinking of contacting higher ups

1396
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: in her company if she shows up and physically harms

1397
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: us as well as the police. Sharon is completely paranoid

1398
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: and off kilter, so I wouldn't put it past her

1399
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: to harm me, and I'm wondering if the consequences at

1400
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: her workplace would be enough to deter her from touching me.

1401
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: Oh and before I forget to mention, Carrie is in

1402
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 2: the military. Dana changed Carrie's legal address to our address

1403
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: behind my back last week. We told her that we

1404
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: would take care of it, but she went and did

1405
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: it anyway. Carrie has military training and has also verbally

1406
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: mistreated me before, and I'm not sure I want to

1407
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: deal with getting rid of her when she's not even

1408
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: here right now. I'm not quite sure what to do

1409
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: about it, but I figure that when Dana moves, she

1410
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 2: can change Carrie's mailing address to wherever she goes and

1411
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: take Carrie's things with her. But you can always take

1412
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: us with you. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or

1413
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and search Okay storytime. You can listen to our

1414
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 2: full episodes of more stories just like this one. Take

1415
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: us everywhere you go. Yeah, in your ear drums, but yeah,

1416
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: there is a little bit more to the story. But

1417
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: oh my Goodnow, Wow, wow, Wow, so much is happening.

1418
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like.

1419
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: That thing where you're like, Okay, the Sharon's coming to

1420
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: help Dana get her out of the place and help

1421
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: them move across the country.

1422
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1423
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to jump to that conclusion

1424
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: of I need to contact her workplace because you don't

1425
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: want to get you know, meddled with all of that. Yeah,

1426
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: but you can film it. You can film heay, I'm

1427
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: recording this or you know I have I can like

1428
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: just record this through my phone. Yeah, what have you like,

1429
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: Just get your stuff out. Let let bygones, be bygones.

1430
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: I just want you out easy, right.

1431
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: I think recording it is very smart. If she does

1432
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: say or try anything again, then you have actual.

1433
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: Proof, you have proof. Actually you can record it. Great,

1434
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: it's it's in the you know, your own home. So

1435
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: what can they do. You're you know, they're entering your house,

1436
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: get your stuff out. You can record it. See what

1437
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: they do, see if they steal anything or again, get

1438
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: any you know, just for your own sanity. In regards

1439
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 1: of Dana being cold, these are these are true colors.

1440
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: Great Eddie. I feel like Eddie's getting a breath of

1441
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: fresh air. And once her, once his mom's actually gone,

1442
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be such a weight off all of your

1443
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: shoulders and he's gonna finally realize, Yeah, they did the

1444
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: hard work. They're cutting cough contact with us. He didn't

1445
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: have to do that. He didn't have to cough that,

1446
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: and he didn't he didn't have to have that conversation

1447
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: with them. They did for him pretty much. Yea, so great.

1448
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: There is a little bit more to the story. Things

1449
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: with Eddie are better. We are still taking things slow,

1450
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: but he's planning on starting therapy soon. Oh good. I'm

1451
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: just glad everything is almost over because our relationship hasn't

1452
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: been this good. He just seems at peace now that

1453
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: they won't be in his life anymore. He's confident and happy,

1454
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: and I am so proud of him. This will probably

1455
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: be my last update here unless Sharon or even Carry

1456
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: but highly unlikely shows up and causes some sort of

1457
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: a scene. If I don't update, just assume everything went

1458
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 2: well and we are living in peace, free of the crazy,

1459
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure so far we've got no update