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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to Stephane.

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Speaker 1: Never told your prediction of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Y'all, I have made a huge mistake, and in the

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Speaker 2: name of my anxieties and insecurities, I have committed to

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Speaker 2: joining dear co host Annie and friend of course, in

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Speaker 2: attending Halloween Horror Night in Hollywood Universal. I swore to

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Speaker 2: you Annie a long time ago I would never go

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Speaker 2: to a haunted house, and now here I am going

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Speaker 2: to ten of them? Twelve of them? How many is there?

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Speaker 1: There's eight, There's ten in Orlando. There's eight in Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, wow, really there's less the surprising it's much smaller. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I would think I knew that, but still that's still

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Speaker 2: surprising to me. And I have tried my best to

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Speaker 2: prepare through TikTok videos, Like there's been so many creators

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Speaker 2: who've actually taken videos inside of them, so I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm very thankful for them. I'm sure other people

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Speaker 2: are like, why are you doing this? But I'm very

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Speaker 2: thankful to them. So I can at least know what

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Speaker 2: to expect just a little bit. But in the end,

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll see if I actually survive.

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Speaker 1: You know that is a whole genre of horror movies

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Speaker 1: based on.

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Speaker 2: I've actually read some incidences and I'm like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: why And unfortunately we have already gone to this by

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Speaker 2: the time this episode comes out, I believe, So I

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Speaker 2: can't even get any advice from y'all. You can tell

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Speaker 2: me your stories, but I can't get any advice. But

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Speaker 2: we'll update you when we get back if we get

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Speaker 2: back dot dot dot. Uh. So all of this when

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Speaker 2: I say my in securities and anxieties, ay, you are

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Speaker 2: prepared to go by yourself, an excited to do so,

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Speaker 2: and in my own insecurities and anxieties, the thought of

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Speaker 2: you going alone really really really makes me uncomfortable and

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Speaker 2: very very very upset. So I was trying to plot

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Speaker 2: where my partner goes with you. Unfortunately he has work

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Speaker 2: coming up and cannot go, so I'm very I was

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Speaker 2: like son of up okay, and I plotted in like

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come with you. Because again, even though you

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Speaker 2: are very fine with it, I am not very fine

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Speaker 2: with it. Like it's all me projecting onto you. So

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Speaker 2: I'm pushing myself to this point and every time I

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Speaker 2: think about it, like literally Sunday night, I was sitting

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Speaker 2: I've been sighing a lot more. My mummy sigh has

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Speaker 2: come back and listeners. I think we've talked about this

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Speaker 2: when I first joined where the mummy that they discovered

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Speaker 2: does this funky sigh, And apparently I did it and

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Speaker 2: I didn't know it and Andy would laugh every time I

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Speaker 2: And it's come back because I stopped for a while,

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Speaker 2: it's come back.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: And it's because I'm thinking this time, next week or

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Speaker 2: this time at this point, I'm going to be in

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Speaker 2: I think the times that we've had where I've done

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm hoping for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we'll see. It is very like a

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Speaker 1: Holding on to people. Yeah it's Oh, I could go

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Speaker 1: into the science about hanted houses, but it's every fourth

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Speaker 1: It was one that I don't think they have at Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that by the time I come out of it,

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Speaker 1: I was very confused when you offered. I was like, what,

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Speaker 1: Well, and I said in my recent happy hour, you

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Speaker 2: the sexism within the industry, which you apparently already did

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Speaker 2: I actually think that I've seen this in hell houses,

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Speaker 1: But yep, I believe I have as well. One thing

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Speaker 1: So they like set up a haunted house and then

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Speaker 1: But they had a bunch of jokes that were not

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah. So one data didn't show all of the

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Speaker 2: talked about how they're like, this is one of those

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Speaker 2: I as a teenager wanted to try to find ghosts.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed like the real ghost stories, even though I'm

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Speaker 2: it is mainly teenagers and college students, not mainly. They

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Speaker 2: Everyone enjoys them apparently or hates them one the other.

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Speaker 2: But I did find a different source that have talked

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Speaker 2: She says it is a reprioritizing of energy of focus

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Speaker 1: But like, that's the same reason why a lot of

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Speaker 1: But like when I would go in these haunted houses,

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Speaker 2: offset you feel better when the pain is removed. Kurr

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Speaker 2: in this year, So you're going to be in that

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Speaker 2: they go on to explain that brain, the brain kind

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Speaker 1: But nah No. But a clown sneezed in my face

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Speaker 2: New Fear Unlocked Okay. Number three is she'll want to

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Speaker 1: Yes, we will. And I hope that you have a

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Speaker 1: The only time will tell.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure you have a good time,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that I have a ton of bracelets, so amazing. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Every time we go to LA we have some kind

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