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Speaker 1: The interception, the latest news and notes from the insiders

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh that was nasty,

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Speaker 2: Slamming the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 3: I ain't scared of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic. Watching the

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Speaker 3: NFL preseason is like filling the blank and I'll na

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Speaker 3: I'll start, No, Darren, you know, I mean, look you

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Speaker 3: your scatter report says otherwise. So don't feel like you

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Speaker 3: have to be nice. I'm just I'm just, you know,

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Speaker 3: Danny Surrek, Paul Calvic, I'll start. Watching the NFL preseason

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Speaker 3: is akin to the Olympics and the triathletes looking at

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Speaker 3: the River Sen and saying, hmm, can I trust that?

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Speaker 3: Do I want to go there? Do I want to

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Speaker 3: go in there in that water? What's in that water? Well,

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Speaker 3: I regret diving in headfirst into the River Sen. That's

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Speaker 4: That is quite the analogy, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Whereas or maybe you know, to go in line with

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Speaker 3: analogy where past performance does not guarantee future results. That's

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Speaker 3: the other thing about the You gotta pump your brakes

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, the Cardinals barely played. Anybody

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've been doing this a long time, Paul.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Danny, you've been doing this long enough to

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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean a whole lot. I feel like to

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Speaker 5: good point these preseason games, what they're finalizing are not

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Speaker 5: So when you have a wide receiver or a linebacker,

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Speaker 5: games matter. And Jonathan Gannon has said that is if

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Speaker 5: And that's why these preseason games matter. And also for

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Speaker 5: I can understand from a fans perspective on what you're

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Speaker 3: Hey, maybe just the fact the rookies are getting out

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Speaker 4: Along those lines, Paul and I'm curious, and again, we've

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Speaker 5: There's only one person who could have written that headline, Paul.

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Speaker 3: So okay, let's do tell Clayton Tune. Where did he

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Speaker 4: and I thought, you saw that. Now, what does that

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Speaker 5: You could tell Clayton Tune truly felt more comfortable. I

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Speaker 5: He didn't seem to get rattled under any pressure. He

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Speaker 5: Tune did have a better game.

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Speaker 4: The play and again one hundred percent agree with Danny

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Speaker 4: But the play that resonates with me, though he did

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Speaker 3: sure that andre Baccelli didn't run the incorrect route and

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Speaker 3: Hard to tell exactly, but that one costs Desmond Ridder,

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Speaker 3: The ball came out quicker than Desmond Ridder. Now, Desmond

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Speaker 3: post snap. That sounds a lot like a Kurt Warner. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say battled, but was talking on

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Speaker 5: It was nice to see Ritter's legs, Yes, the way

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Speaker 3: Look, there's no guarantee the Cardinals are keeping three quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think they will.

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Speaker 4: In it's going to be a fascinating final three weeks

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Speaker 5: There's no way I would imagine the Cardinals would keep five.

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Speaker 5: You've got James Connor, You've got Trey Benson. Okay, we've

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Speaker 4: Well, I would agree, although again since Amri de Mercado

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Speaker 5: You're right, Right, do you keep Dallas or do you

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Speaker 3: Look, if you're asking me, you start looking at other

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Speaker 3: Blake Whiteheart, a Travis vocalet Right, I mean those running

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Speaker 3: the problem. You led the league last year in thirteen

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Speaker 4: Right, Although when you think about the tight ends that

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Speaker 4: And I've heard them talk about this in the past,

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Speaker 5: I agree. In terms of the running backs, the further

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Speaker 5: With running backs, though, when you're looking at the numbers

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Speaker 5: Michael Carter has just shown from his time last season

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Speaker 5: one of the team's top tacklers. And I know that

432
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Speaker 5: there was one one one deep play by the Saints,

433
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Speaker 5: and I'm not sure seeing the angles that that was

434
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Speaker 5: on Rabbit or Elijah Jones. But I liked what we

435
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Speaker 5: saw from Rabbit in the secondary.

436
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Speaker 3: You can see why they were attracted to him if

437
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Speaker 3: they like Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker. It's a similar style,

438
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Speaker 3: right right, Simmy, We're not talking about Derwin James six ' three,

439
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Speaker 3: you know, two third. No, this was a smaller, quicker energy,

440
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Speaker 3: you know, to the ball, fearless type of safety.

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Speaker 4: What I loved a lot about the Rabbit thing was

442
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Speaker 4: I have I haven't felt like I've really noticed him

443
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Speaker 4: a lot in practice noticed him in the game. You know,

444
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Speaker 4: there was a couple of guys Owen Papo had to

445
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Speaker 4: play because obviously Kaizer White and Mac Wilson didn't, and

446
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Speaker 4: I thought Owen looked really good sideline.

447
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Speaker 5: Aside Xavier Thomas, Xavier.

448
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Speaker 4: I mean this team. I had talked to Papo after

449
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Speaker 4: the game and I brought up rabbit speed and he

450
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Speaker 4: just started giggling. He goes, yeah, I like Rabbit, He goes,

451
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Speaker 4: this defense's future is bright. And again, a lot of

452
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Speaker 4: guys have to do a lot of proving. But you

453
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Speaker 4: look at some of the guys they've picked up and

454
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Speaker 4: who they can be and whether Papo can do it

455
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Speaker 4: or Xavier Thomas maybe shows the little things. I mean

456
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Speaker 4: that the way he walked Uh Penning, the former first

457
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Speaker 4: round pick back on that one play. I know Saints

458
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Speaker 4: fans are going absolutely crazy that Penning looks so bad

459
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Speaker 4: on that play, but I'm going to chalk it up

460
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Speaker 4: as a big win for Zaber Thomas. And you know, again,

461
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Speaker 4: we keep talking about who's going to replace b Joe

462
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Speaker 4: Jalari and who's going to get the sacks, and as

463
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Speaker 4: was reiterated with Jonathan Gannon a couple times in the

464
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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, it's not just about the sacks.

465
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Speaker 4: It's about the pressures and if they can get pressure

466
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Speaker 4: on the quarterback. Even if they don't bring them down,

467
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Speaker 4: things can happen.

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Speaker 3: Again once again. Will Anderson Junior was the NFL Defensive

469
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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. He had seven sacks, but he

470
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Speaker 3: had sixty four pressures. He was a problem. He was

471
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Speaker 3: always getting the quarterback off at their spot and so

472
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Speaker 3: it was affecting the quarterback. That's where he ended up

473
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Speaker 3: winning that award. It's interesting Xavier Thomas because Nick Ross

474
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Speaker 3: had said going into the game. When we asked him

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Speaker 3: for an update, he said, yeah, he's really starting to

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Speaker 3: let it rip lately, Xavier Thomas. And then after the

477
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Speaker 3: game he was one of our postgame radio guests and

478
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Speaker 3: I aske him about it. He said, yeah, this scheme

479
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Speaker 3: is very different than Clemson. He spent six years at Clemson,

480
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Speaker 3: so there's been a learning curve. He said, I was

481
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Speaker 3: trying to do everything so perfect in the mini camps

482
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Speaker 3: and the OTAs. He said, I was playing a little slow.

483
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Speaker 3: Said finally I got it. He said, I feel like

484
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Speaker 3: I'm playing free and I am playing and not thinking

485
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Speaker 3: any longer. And you're seeing because for everything Rabbit can

486
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Speaker 3: do and he looked great, you still have Buddha Baker

487
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Speaker 3: and Jalen Thompson Cardinals don't have that pass rusher another

488
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Speaker 3: team fears, and if he could at least be that

489
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Speaker 3: guy to emerge on third and obvious passing situations. I mean,

490
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Speaker 3: that's the gift out of the fifth round.

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Speaker 4: That'll keep on giving the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and keep in mind too, MacWilson Senior, the linebacker

493
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Speaker 5: wasn't playing, and from what we've seen in practice and

494
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Speaker 5: position battles, and you know, going up against offensive linemen,

495
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Speaker 5: i'd expect him to have maybe even a heavier role

496
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Speaker 5: than they anticipated losing Ojalari.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So just in terms of need, every rookie out there, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, in terms of need, Marvin Arrison Junior your

499
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Speaker 3: need wide receiver one, Darius Robinson, you need a beast

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Speaker 3: along the D line, but edge, I mean in terms

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Speaker 3: of Max Melton, I guess, okay, but Starling Thomas to

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Speaker 3: your point, Danny's playing pretty well in terms of need.

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Speaker 3: You might actually go next to Xavier Thomas if you

504
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Speaker 3: give you that guy. Another team fears coming off the edge.

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Speaker 5: And again this is preseason. I would think even though

506
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Speaker 5: during the regular season, you'd still get some flashes because

507
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Speaker 5: having the starters, having your defensive mind, having your linebackers,

508
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Speaker 5: having everybody else out there right your secondary starters. That

509
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Speaker 5: would command more of the offense's attention, which would hopefully

510
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Speaker 5: allow Thomas to continue to disrupt.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when Starling Thomas had that near pick

512
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Speaker 3: six and almost as surely would have gone the length

513
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Speaker 3: of the field, I was really wondering was he going

514
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Speaker 3: to take it into the casitas? That was my question.

515
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Speaker 3: Would he have taken it into the casitas?

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Speaker 4: That would have been amazing? And do I doubt that

517
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Speaker 4: that would happen at some point? I do not doubt

518
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Speaker 4: that would happen at some point. Probably is, so we'll

519
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Speaker 4: see what happens. The Casidas were interesting to see out there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was a different look on a lot

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Speaker 4: of stuff. And you know, again, I think the vibe

522
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Speaker 4: at the stadium for the game, for a preseason game,

523
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Speaker 4: I thought was really nice. I mean, the organization has

524
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Speaker 4: done a nice job reinventing some things, and I think

525
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Speaker 4: it's going to be a very interesting show every time

526
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Speaker 4: that you go out there, between the players that they

527
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Speaker 4: brought in and the vibe of this team and just

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Speaker 4: everything else around it.

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Speaker 5: I agree. It was being down the sideline, getting the

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Speaker 5: opportunity to see that which I don't normally get to

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Speaker 5: because in the press box the glass mutes everything. I

532
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Speaker 5: will say as a heads up by a friend, use

533
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Speaker 5: my tickets. And I'm pretty sure the highly anticipated cotton

534
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 5: candy burrito might only be available on club levels. So

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Speaker 5: for everybody listening, just keep that in mind when you

536
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Speaker 5: head out to State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm just going to say right now

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Speaker 3: disclaimer that if I go missing on the broadcast this

539
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Speaker 3: regular season from the sideline for a good quarter and

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Speaker 3: a half, two quarters, don't worry about it. I might

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Speaker 3: be over in the caseta is having a cold one.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Cold what Paul, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Beverage, beverage, all right, Before we get to the concession

545
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Speaker 3: stands and wrap this up. Marvin Harrison Junior three snaps.

546
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Speaker 3: Good to see him suit up, get some game action.

547
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Speaker 3: Zero targets the way it turned out, but like every

548
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Speaker 3: other healthy rookie, looked like Jonathan Ganna had a plan

549
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Speaker 3: to get those guys into what a game routine.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's what time do you need to show up for,

551
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Speaker 5: how early you like to go out if you like

552
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: to go out before team warm ups, understanding the schedule

553
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Speaker 5: of the timing. You know, before I kickoff this time,

554
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: you have to be out on the field doing this

555
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Speaker 5: and this and warming up in your pads and your

556
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Speaker 5: uniform and all of that. And that wasn't just for

557
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Speaker 5: the rookies. Absolutely, maybe a little more important for timing,

558
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Speaker 5: but we saw that with every starter. Kyler Murray was

559
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 5: fully suited up and going through his routine, so I

560
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Speaker 5: think that's important. I would imagine Marvin Harrison Junior does

561
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Speaker 5: not suit up again for the last two preseason games.

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Speaker 5: I think that was probably more about routine. I think

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Speaker 5: it'll be interesting. I think there's a chance I maybe

564
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Speaker 5: Darise Robinson also doesn't play, although the D line they

565
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Speaker 5: like to use rotation, which would make me think a

566
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: little differently. You have so many receivers on the depth

567
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: chart fighting that from a body's perspective, and the fact

568
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Speaker 5: that Harrison only played one series, you probably really don't

569
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Speaker 5: need his body out there. I know they're going to Indianapolis,

570
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Speaker 5: and I know the connection with his dad, and that's

571
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Speaker 5: the team he was inducted into the Hall of Fame with.

572
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Speaker 5: I just I don't really foresee this team taking any

573
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Speaker 5: sort of risk and putting Harrison back out there. I

574
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Speaker 5: could be wrong. We'll see.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I think the practices in Indianapolis are going

576
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: to be more important than the game. But we'll get

577
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: to more of that later in the week when we

578
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 4: have our special bonus podcast about that from Indy, when

579
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Speaker 4: the three of us are in Indy.

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Speaker 5: Right, but in overtime.

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Speaker 4: By the way, before we get to finish up here,

582
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Speaker 4: Paul Hassan Redick has officially requested a trade from the Jets. No,

583
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals is not going to drive trade for him,

584
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Speaker 4: So I'm just going to put that out.

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Speaker 5: He did he practice once?

586
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: No, he hasn't been with them because he keeps one

587
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: in his contract.

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Speaker 3: Why are you such a downer? Why are you, Darren

589
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Speaker 3: Downer right? Why are you dismissing? Why are you dismissing

590
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Speaker 3: the possible trade.

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Speaker 4: The same reason I wouldn't see them trading for Brandon

592
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Speaker 4: and I you because I think in the position they're

593
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Speaker 4: in right now, they're not bringing in a veteran who

594
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to completely jack up where the roster

595
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 4: building is and the roster building plan for a giant contract,

596
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Speaker 4: because don't forget He's already been traded once because he

597
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: wanted the new contract, so obviously he wants a lot

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Speaker 4: of money.

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Speaker 3: However, he's JG's guy from Philadelphia, and JG led a

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Speaker 3: defense that had seventy sacks, and he was arguably he

601
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Speaker 3: played for JG a mere pass rusher out there.

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Speaker 4: I don't have any inside information. I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I do agree with you that they're not going

604
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Speaker 3: to give up the assets and pay the big money

605
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Speaker 3: to bring in a veteran pass rusher. That ain't happening, don't.

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Speaker 5: The Cardinals only have seven draft picks next year, correctly

607
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: so in terms, unless you're okay getting rid of one,

608
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Speaker 5: or you're gonna look even further down the line. If

609
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Speaker 5: you're talking assets and draft capital, I don't know that

610
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Speaker 5: we would see many awesome for get rid of. I

611
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Speaker 5: don't think the justest capital this year.

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to play chicken with Hassan Reddick.

613
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Speaker 3: Then again, it's the Jets and that GM somehow has

614
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: kept his job despite four straight double digit loss seasons.

615
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: He's beyond desperate, So you know, see, if you can

616
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Speaker 3: fleece Joe Douglass with the Jets, let MONI cook on

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Speaker 3: that one. We'll see what happens, all right, all right,

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Speaker 3: speaking of cook, Speaking of cook, there's your segue. Cardinals

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Speaker 3: next home game will be Week two of the regular season,

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Speaker 3: and then they play three in a row. So guess

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Speaker 3: what that's ample opportunity to try the brand new concession menu.

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Speaker 5: My stomach has already growled once during this podcast because

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Speaker 5: I haven't had lunch yet. So sure, let's go ahead

624
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Speaker 5: and look at the long list of delicious food items

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Speaker 5: ball power pole.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, your top five, top three, let's go

627
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Speaker 3: top three, let's top three.

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Speaker 5: I already came with five.

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Speaker 4: I did too. I'm going to take a couple off.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I can I can cut down in my

631
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Speaker 5: top three?

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Since Danny actually hasn't mapped

633
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Speaker 3: out over there, she's ready to go. Or do you want?

634
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Speaker 5: Can I just say my top five?

635
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Speaker 4: Go ahead? Go ahead?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'll be fast. Okay, you guys are gonna hate

637
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: me for this. The flaming Hot Cheeto chicken tenders.

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00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: I thought about that one.

639
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: Really, should I read the description? Or no? Just take

640
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Speaker 5: my word for.

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Speaker 4: I think we can go for that sounds if you

642
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: want to d that's fine, but we don't need to go.

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Speaker 3: I have a new dog at home name Cheeto, and

644
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Speaker 3: he's a slacker, so.

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Speaker 4: You know Paul is all about his dog.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Number one, I'm predisposed flaming hot Cheeto chicken tenders.

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Speaker 4: Are these in a particular order?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no order, just top five?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Macho nachos without black olives. Black olives are the most

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Speaker 5: disgusting food that exists. Heavy fast, omg, Beria sandwich. Wait,

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Speaker 5: which which was that from Barrio Queen?

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Speaker 4: What's in it?

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Speaker 5: Beef beeria, Mexican cheese, sauce and hallopeno.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's pretty good? All right?

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Speaker 5: Briskets sliders. I'm from Texas. Of course I'm picking something

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Speaker 5: with brisket.

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Speaker 4: I like the fact that you and I have different

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Speaker 4: ones already.

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Speaker 5: And then, lastly, on that same note, the Mexican style

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Speaker 5: of lota sounds divine right now. So if any of

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Speaker 5: you listening happen to try any of my top five,

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Speaker 5: please take a picture and tweet it and.

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Speaker 4: Then let me know what you think of right, I'll

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Speaker 4: go through my top five real quick, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Although Danny gets extra points for the use of the

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Speaker 3: word divine.

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Speaker 4: There you go, I wouldn't have gone there. All right,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the chicken and waffle sandwich. For

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Speaker 4: some reason, maple chive, butter and cheese bites just really

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Speaker 4: caught my eye.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the salmon pokey bowl because that

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Speaker 4: also sounds really good and I'm a big pok person.

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00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: The Sonor and Dog with a candied halopanios and a

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Speaker 4: bacon wrapped hot dog. I know right now Paul is

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Speaker 4: just thinking about the heart attacks that I'm creating for

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Speaker 4: my stuff, the big red mac and Cheese, which is

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Speaker 4: the mac and cheese with the brisket on top o

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Speaker 4: that sounds also super heavy and terrible for you and delicious.

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Speaker 4: And then finally I'm going with the fifty to fifty

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Speaker 4: from Scoop Well, I'm going with the dessert because we

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Speaker 4: were privileged enough as a staff to get fed by

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Speaker 4: some of these groups over at our last meeting at

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Speaker 4: the end of training camp, and we had a dessert

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Speaker 4: we had It was a scoop of ice cream. And

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Speaker 4: I keep forgetting that Scoop Ball is about cookie dough,

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Speaker 4: which I am a huge fan of cookie dough, and

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Speaker 4: there was two cookie? Does that was? I could have

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Speaker 4: had two more of those.

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Speaker 3: Based on your selections. You have a lot of full

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Speaker 3: court basketball in your future. Try and work all that all.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm going to eat all those things.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying the things I'd like to eat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, I don't think these items are making their

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Speaker 5: way up to the press box.

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Speaker 3: Probably, how about you, Paul, So if Wolf was here,

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Speaker 3: he'd profile me and say I was going for the

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Speaker 3: nutty Asian salad. Oh yeah, that is enticely, I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you. But I'm gonna try and break the scatteryport

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Speaker 3: break break my tendencies. So you can profile my last name,

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Speaker 3: and with a guy who has an eye at the

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Speaker 3: end of his last name, I'll go for the meatball

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Speaker 3: HOGI on a stick. That sounds darn too. That was

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Speaker 3: like going out to the State Fair or something. Can't

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Speaker 3: have football without the nachos, especially when it has guac

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 5: So yes, would you keep olives on?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely gross? Danny? Oh my goodness you. And there's there's

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Speaker 3: a number another member of our department who despises black olives.

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Speaker 3: And I do think lesser of both of you because

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Speaker 3: of that. I believe it is Kyle.

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Speaker 5: I believe that was, but I'm still the only person

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Speaker 5: the departments.

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Speaker 4: Cody on the other side of the glass also says

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Speaker 4: he power numbers crazy.

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Speaker 3: Number one on the Polly power pole because we go

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Speaker 3: back two decades plus a very special relationship our family

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Speaker 3: has with Spinato's pizzeria. That's because they have a location

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Speaker 3: in our hood and we've been going there ever since,

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Speaker 3: and and I actually know some of the family members,

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Speaker 3: and because they're in the neighborhood, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: So this is not Paola.

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Speaker 5: Spinatos, but which which pizza in our sandwich.

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Speaker 3: And think with the spinach in it is outstanding because

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Speaker 3: it takes you back to like the Chicago roots of

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Speaker 3: it all.

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Speaker 4: The sauce on Spinatos is, yes, it is good.

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Speaker 5: That was the only reason I didn't pick it. I

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Speaker 5: get Spinado's already.

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Speaker 6: The signature sauce is what they I'm a big fan,

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Speaker 6: all right, So right now that we're super hungry, right now,

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Speaker 6: come on, in fact, that'll take us up to a

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Speaker 6: lunchtime press conference by the head coach John Too.

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Speaker 4: Things correct, don't forget your another special podcast on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: No video on this one. Sorry for everybody, but we

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Speaker 4: had some staffing issues.

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Speaker 3: We will have videos from Thursday that'll do it for

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