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Speaker 1: Here we go Wednesday Live in Chicago. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: People are upset, Lebron's happy. Joel Klatt stops by wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for making us part of your day. Well, the story

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Speaker 1: last night, and I think I've talked about this all

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Speaker 1: summer long, is that Lebron has always been the best

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Speaker 1: player on his team. Now, last year, Luca was injured

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Speaker 1: and put on some weight, so I believe on most

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Speaker 1: nights Lebron was at least Luca's equal, and many times

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Speaker 1: he was better than Luca. So last night Lebron made

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Speaker 1: his season debut and it was a perfect night. Utah's

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Speaker 1: the worst defensive team by a mile in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers had sixteen laps and seventy four points in

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Speaker 1: the paint, no physicality, It was a home game, the

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Speaker 1: healthiest the Lakers roster has been in years, and Lebron

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Speaker 1: eased his way back into it. He didn't have the

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Speaker 1: ball much in his hands. His passing was as usual

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Speaker 1: exceptional when Walker Kessler is out for Utah. They are

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Speaker 1: so bad defensively, and Lebron appropriately did not insert himself

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Speaker 1: into the offense much. In fact, the usage rate is

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Speaker 1: what I want to see going forward. Luca had the

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Speaker 1: ball forty four percent of the time, I'd be happy

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Speaker 1: at forty six forty seven. Austin Reeves had it five

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Speaker 1: percent of the time. Lebron had at thirteen, and it

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Speaker 1: was all smiles. Do I think taking seven shots and

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Speaker 1: having the ball in his hands thirteen percent of the time,

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron's gonna be happy with that in April?

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 1: But Lebron is really smart. He's always calculated, He's always intentional,

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Speaker 1: from the food he eats to the shots he takes.

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Speaker 1: And the Lakers are a fun, well coached offense, a

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Speaker 1: joyful atmosphere. Last night felt like an intense scrimmage. Utahs

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Speaker 1: that bad defensively, and Lebron's always been an incredibly adaptable player.

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was not. The late Kobe was not, Carmelo

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Speaker 1: was not. Lebron's always been adaptable. But let's keep it

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Speaker 1: one hundred. Lebron now, for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: is absolutely the second best player on the team. He

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Speaker 1: was better than d Way, He was better than Bosh.

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Speaker 1: It was better than Kevin Love, he was better than Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: he was better than Chunky Luca last year on most nights.

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Speaker 1: But I said all summer, Skinny Luca is the best

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Speaker 1: offensive player in the world. Skinny Luca last night had

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Speaker 1: thirty seven points, could have scored more. It felt like

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Speaker 1: something you'd see at the Why he scored whenever he

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Speaker 1: felt like it. Utah is atrocious defensively, and Lebron's calculated.

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Speaker 1: He picked this week to come back. Why they play

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Speaker 1: Utah twice? No physicality in a bunch of days off.

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Speaker 1: So I will say this JJ Reddick has created. He

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Speaker 1: it never gets jammed up. They really pass well. It's

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Speaker 1: a very giving offense. But Lebron's never been a true Robin.

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Speaker 1: He's always been Batman on almost every night of his career.

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Speaker 1: So he not settling for seven shots. They're not settling

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Speaker 1: for thirteen percent ball usage. But that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: I'd like him at, maybe eighteen twenty one percent. That's

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Speaker 1: Lebron is so old. That's what it should be for

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Speaker 1: the regular season. And I think it's a challenge, That's

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Speaker 1: defensively last night either. They trailed for you know, three

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Speaker 1: He picked the right team, he picked the right night.

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Speaker 3: Just thought he played with the right spirit, very unselfish

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Speaker 1: Really good to have him back. One of the criticisms

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Speaker 1: the wrong thing in a social media outlet. Lebron picked

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Speaker 2: Win though.

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Speaker 1: All right, so the college football bracket came out. Everybody

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Speaker 1: The team that's really upset is the Miami Hurricanes. Apparently

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Speaker 1: their nine fans are furious because they are ranked eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is ninth, and they beat Notre Dame. Caines fans,

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Speaker 1: all nine of you. College football has changed head to

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Speaker 1: head matters. It's not everything, it's a thing, and timing

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Speaker 1: this format are always the worst thing, and timing matters

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Speaker 1: when do you lose. Notre Dame is not lost September thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: and when they lost, they lost the good teams and

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Speaker 1: they were very close go either way games. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: not about your first test of the year. So Miami

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Speaker 1: They have not been good in a month, and they've

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Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL works. And remember, college football

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Speaker 1: Nil quarterbacks now in college making three four and five.

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Speaker 1: tight end recruit the transfer portal well, I mean the

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Speaker 1: football Playoff means you can be Ohio State and lose

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Speaker 1: much does that matter? It doesn't really. In the first

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's number one, not because they beat Texas in

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Speaker 1: Football Playoff. It's not because of that loss. It's the

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Speaker 1: losses after Christoball, though not happy, still thinks we beat

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Speaker 4: The number one criteria anything is always head is. It's

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Speaker 4: why we play the game. So I think Bett always

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Speaker 4: has been and always will be the number one factory

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Speaker 1: So let's just extrapolate this and exaggerate this to prove

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Speaker 1: my point. Let's say Miami had beaten Notre Dame and

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Speaker 1: then lost five straight games, and Notre Dame loses close

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Speaker 1: Do you really think a five loss Miami team should

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Speaker 1: be ranked to head a one loss Notre Dame team. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if anybody has an IQ above motor oil and salad dressing, no,

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Speaker 1: So to prove a point, exaggerate the point. Obviously, head

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Speaker 1: to heady is something, but it's close, it's go either way.

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Speaker 1: It's a one handed catch. It's so not everything. And

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Speaker 1: if I had to put twelve teams together today, I

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Speaker 1: do think this morning Notre Dame slightly better. Okay, sore

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Speaker 1: you go, J Mack. I know you're feeling it for Lebron.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, Lebron's always been one of the

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Speaker 1: shrewder guys in the league. Last night, he knew he

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Speaker 1: watched this team. I mean he's watching the offense. And

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Speaker 1: he and JJ Reddick used to have a podcast. You know,

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Speaker 1: they talked about this. You know, it was discussed, and

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Speaker 1: I thought Lebron was very smart to just smoothly put

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Speaker 1: of what the team was doing offensively. So did you

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Speaker 1: notice last night what Lebron really concentrated on his passing

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was no look past. So Lebron was like, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: it's going to take about six games. And even Austin

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Speaker 1: gonna be the facilitator tonight. I'm gonna be and he was.

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Speaker 1: He was. He played defense, He was a real facilitator.

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Speaker 1: He did not do ball usage that was intentional.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, even coming up the court, you could see he

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Speaker 5: would just give it to Luca and get out of

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Speaker 5: what was going on, move off the ball. Listen, man,

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Speaker 5: I know you were hammering. Well, it's not gonna work

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Speaker 5: when he comes back. It is only Utah. But Colin,

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Speaker 5: their offense was unreal last night. I mean the passing,

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Speaker 5: the cutting off ball movement. And they get like four

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Speaker 5: if you look at the schedule after that, it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be like an eighteen and six Lakers team at some point. Okay,

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Speaker 5: they're coming for OKC. I'm not even kidding. Okay, see

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Speaker 5: is a juggernaut.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 5: They want to win seventy games, go for it. Okay,

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Speaker 5: just keep an eye on the Lakers, my friend.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's start with Thursday night football and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the Bills visit the Texans in Collins.

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Speaker 5: Do you know Josh Allen is tied currently with Cam

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Speaker 5: Cam Newton and be the leading touchdown rusher among quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Newton were Steve Young.

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Speaker 2: No hold on.

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Speaker 1: Rushing touchdowns yep, lamar, No hold on, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 2: Bush rush. That was bad.

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Speaker 1: You saw it with the Niners this weekend. When perty

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Speaker 5: Bone Nicks doesn't have Josh Allen's frame. Jalen Hurts is stocky. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: You might take Josh Allen just because he can take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, next story, Colin, we got to go

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Speaker 2: back to the Eagles here.

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Speaker 5: Nick Siriani was forced to address all the reports about

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Speaker 2: I think it's nonsense. Some Philadelphia Eagles players.

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Speaker 9: What are you doing to win? Help your team win

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I always feel like a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But what I pay Baker and say, hold on why

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow a better thrower of the ball than Jalen Hurts? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: But Hurts is available. Hurts is always there on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: What's the number, Well, what is the number? If it's

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Speaker 1: So everybody's got a number every day, Always say everybody's

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Speaker 5: So again, let's say this report is true. I'm I

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Speaker 5: major problems with Hurtz. What if Aj Brown this offseason

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Speaker 5: I can't play with this quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Trade me or trade him? No, you trade the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. Now let me take it a next step.

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Speaker 5: Sirianni and Hurts have butted heads reported me in the past.

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Speaker 5: What if Nick Sirianni does that call him, Hey, Howie,

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Speaker 5: If you don't get me a new quarterback, then.

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Speaker 2: Stars right out of college.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but you could play make a play for Mac Jones,

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Speaker 5: you could go Kyler Murray. There's other guys out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, yeah, those guys come with limitations

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Speaker 1: and baggage. Jalen Hurts has Jalen Hurts is not a

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Speaker 1: great pocket passer, but he's a lot of things. I like. Tough, strong, available, durable, smart,

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Speaker 1: good with a microphone, team guy soil. It's a pretty

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Speaker 1: deep ball. I don't want to pay him Josh money,

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Speaker 1: but he's a really good professional football player.

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Speaker 2: You'd like him. He and you like wins. He's twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wins close, and he wins on the road,

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Speaker 1: and he beats good team. Philly beats good teams. There's

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Speaker 1: no fraud in Philly. They may they may be flawed,

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Speaker 1: they're not a fraud.

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Speaker 5: Final story is in Minnesota Vikings and JJ McCarthy did

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Speaker 5: not have a great game against the Bears. That was

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Speaker 5: my one one of my misses over the weekend. I

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Speaker 5: thought McCarthy would play well here.

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Speaker 1: He did not well.

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Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell was asked about his starting quarterback and I

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Speaker 5: don't know, this doesn't sound great if you're JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 10: We're all just looking for continued, you know, evidence of

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Speaker 10: the growth that he can take. Some of the things

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Speaker 10: he's working very hard on the practice field to make,

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Speaker 10: you know, as the phrase I've been using with him.

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Speaker 10: We got to we got to start seeing this cement

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Speaker 10: dry on some of the things that we've really worked

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Speaker 10: hard to make football habits for him. From a fundamentals

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Speaker 10: and technique standpoint, I would equate it to swinging a

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Speaker 10: golf club and sometimes you swing it with your left

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Speaker 10: foot on the ground, sometimes you don't.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, widen your stance.

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Speaker 10: Really you're never going to hit that golf ball the

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Speaker 10: same way, and playing quarterback is about the variables that

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Speaker 10: you can control.

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Speaker 1: Listen. This points to how difficult finding a franchise quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: I mean privately, everybody I talked to in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: like Drake May, I don't think anybody thought early year

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Speaker 1: two he'd be the most accurate quarterback and a great

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Speaker 1: road quarterback. It's really hard. I mean, this guy played

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Kevin O'Connell's super smart. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people like JJ McCarthy out of college. I didn't work

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Speaker 1: for me, but I've been wrong before on guys. So

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Speaker 1: it just points the Vikings Raft. Well, they're smart, they've

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Speaker 1: got good offensive people, good eyes in the building. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It is hard. I always said, if Mahomes ended up

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, not Kansas City. Would that mean? I mean

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Speaker 1: Kansas City and Minnesota my entire life have been well

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Speaker 1: run organizations. The difference is Mahomes. That's the difference in organization.

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Speaker 1: They both had good coaches, they both had stable ownership,

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Speaker 1: they both had good drafting and good front offices. They

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Speaker 1: both won playoff games, they both get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They're both respectable organizations. The differences Mahomes put it on

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Speaker 1: the BLA Kings, they would be a notch above historically

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Speaker 1: Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: So I'm looking at the Vikings schedule. I think we

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Speaker 5: would agree they're probably cooked this year, especially given the

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Speaker 5: NFC green Bay this weekend, then Seattle, they'll be Washington,

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Speaker 5: Dallas is no Layoup.

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Speaker 1: You see Detroit and green.

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Speaker 2: Bay there they're not getting in the playoffs. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: what do you do? Is this like a basically hate JJ.

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Speaker 2: We need to see some stuff or.

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Speaker 5: We're going to be drafting the kid from Baylor Sawyer

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Speaker 5: Robertson in the fourth round this year.

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Speaker 2: Like are we doing that?

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Speaker 5: Are we already there with McCarthy after five games? We

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Speaker 5: need to see a big, big leap.

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Speaker 1: No, I'd let him play the next seven games, sit

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Speaker 1: down as an organization, and you know, I think macown

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Speaker 1: and mac Jones is in play, but I have no

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Speaker 1: interest sitting JJ McCarthy. I want seven. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the next seven games because he plays Green Bay's

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Speaker 1: defense and the Seahawks defense. Yeah, so those are the

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Speaker 1: three of the games are against elite defenses. What if

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Speaker 1: he's split with Green Bay? What if he played great

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Speaker 1: this weekend at Lambeau. Okay, so I am, I am

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Speaker 1: where Minnesota is. We're probably not a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: Let it play out, give me every snap. It's not

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Speaker 1: like Chicago last year where it was dysfunctional. This is

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Speaker 1: highly functional. Right. The Bears today are functional. Last year

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Speaker 1: they were dysfunctional. That hurt the young quarterback. Yeah, what's

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Speaker 1: troubling is the Vikings are well coached, well runned, well coordinated,

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Speaker 1: well stocked, good tool belt, and it's not work. So

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Speaker 1: you just play it out for seven games and then

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Speaker 1: everybody can go to a room privately. They don't have

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Speaker 1: to talk to the press and make a decision, raise

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Speaker 1: their hands, thumb up, thumb down. No reason to sit

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Speaker 1: him now, none at all, totally. Jmcklenews.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So, uh listen. I don't know about you guys, but

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Speaker 1: I was watching a little Monday night raw WWE, not

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Speaker 1: just the Cowboy Raider game, And did you guys see

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Speaker 1: cam Scataboo at that thing? Apparently a lot of Giant

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Speaker 1: fans didn't like it, so we went and got the videotape.

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Speaker 1: They didn't like him, you know, off a surgery screwing

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Speaker 1: around horseplay at WWE. So I looked at the footage

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Speaker 1: and two things jumped out to me. On the cam

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Speaker 1: Scataboo footage. Number one is isn't it odd how one

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Speaker 1: security guard is holding back five large men and there

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Speaker 1: are appeared to be eighty four punches thrown and none

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Speaker 1: of them land. It's almost as if this is scripted.

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Speaker 1: So I don't want my players who are young, and

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Speaker 1: Abdul Carter was there and a couple of giants were there,

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Speaker 1: so it felt like team bonding for me. And I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of you are getting you're freaked out

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Speaker 1: over this, but basically WWE is dancing with the stars,

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Speaker 1: but more choreographed. Call it dancing with some scars is

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Speaker 1: what WWE is. So I don't have a problem with this.

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Speaker 1: I don't need Scataboo to be home and miserable. That

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Speaker 1: appears to be comedian podcaster Andrew Schultz, so that leads

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Speaker 1: me to believe this is scripted. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: would go and fight large men in tights. That's just

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Speaker 1: how I view the world, so I don't make much

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Speaker 1: of it. I've been to a couple of WWE events.

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Speaker 1: They are fun. My son's not a wrestling fan. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen him laugh more than when I took him

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Speaker 1: to WWE and had great seats. I was sitting right

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Speaker 1: in front of Bill Simmons. I had better seats than Himons,

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Speaker 1: of course. But the point is, I think we're all

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay with this. I don't want you guys

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Speaker 1: freaking out. From the video it looks I mean either

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Speaker 1: that or that one security guard holding back five grown

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Speaker 1: men is if I ever need one. I'm hiring that

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Speaker 1: guy because he does a yeoman's work here really impressive.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching some Lakers, and I'm I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching some bulls and I'm watching some Celtics and a Warriors.

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Speaker 1: STEP's great Warriors, aren't. Luca had thirty seven last night

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers, and he's just unbelievable offensive player, best

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Speaker 1: offensive player on the planet. So Adam Silver and and

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Speaker 1: I've defended Adam Silver. When David Stern took over the NBA,

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Speaker 1: the NBA was broken, There was a cocaine rumors, bankrupt teams,

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Speaker 1: awful owners. It was awful. So David Stern wanted to

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Speaker 1: put the name on the back of the jersey. You

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Speaker 1: know Jordan's. You wanted to put it on the front.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to sell the individual he wanted the shoe

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Speaker 1: companies involved. It was the right thing to do at

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Speaker 1: the right time. And with that you had dynasties formed.

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Speaker 1: Big markets did very well, Lakers in Boston and Chicago

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Speaker 1: and Detroit. Big markets did very well. Adam Silver took

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Speaker 1: over for David Stern. It was a different league. There

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Speaker 1: was some resentment that the league was too top heavy.

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Speaker 1: So I will defend Adam Silver on this. He has

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Speaker 1: created the new CBA. All these second and third aprons,

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Speaker 1: you can't owners are not willing to pay one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars annually in taxes, and so seven years, seven champions.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of uncertainty going into the playoffs. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: really sure. But I thought this morning as I was

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Speaker 1: watching the Lakers last night, here are the six things

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Speaker 1: that are not debatable. Everything else in the NBA is

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Speaker 1: debatable right now except these six things. Number One is

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Speaker 1: the best player is still Nikota Jokis the joker for Denver.

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Speaker 1: Is a scoring, passing, rebounding machine. I've never seen a

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Speaker 1: big guy with this many skills. He's averaging twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: thirteen and eleven and the only guy in the league

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Speaker 1: to do it, and he was the only guy last

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Speaker 1: year to go twenty seven, twelve and nine. He is,

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Speaker 1: on any given night, the best shooter from the perimeter,

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Speaker 1: the best shooter mid range, the best low post player,

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Speaker 1: and when he wants to play defense, he's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Best player in the league is the joker. It is

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Speaker 1: not debatable. Second thing, the best pure score Skinny Luca,

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Speaker 1: Luca first three years Skinny and Luca. Now you can't

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Speaker 1: stop him. I mean, he's six seven and a half long,

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Speaker 1: all knees and elbows. He gets whatever he wants, whenever

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Speaker 1: he wants. He's as good a shooter as Larry Bird,

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Speaker 1: but quicker. There's just no weakness. He's actually when he

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Speaker 1: wants to be a good passer, but he shouldn't pass

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Speaker 1: much because he's that good. He's just you know, I said,

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Speaker 1: he's like Dirt Naviitsky, but stronger and quicker Larry Byrd

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Speaker 1: but quicker. He is the best offensive pure player on

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Speaker 1: the planet. Luca Number three is let's not even deny it.

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Speaker 1: They're not even healthy now. OKC is the best team, folks.

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Speaker 1: They're eighty two and fifteen since the start of last season.

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Speaker 1: Last year they won by an average of thirteen points.

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Speaker 1: They're deep, they're big, Hartenstein, Chet Homer, they have physicality,

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Speaker 1: they have an elite score. They've got a great number two.

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Speaker 1: They're well coached, they have the Howie Roseman of GMS.

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Speaker 1: OKC is the best team. The play number four. If

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Speaker 1: you asked every GM next ten years, who's the player

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Speaker 1: you build around, it would be Wemby, not the joker Wemby.

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Speaker 1: Every year his stats are getting better, scoring, rebounding, shooting efficiency.

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Speaker 1: He is already the best shot blocker since the NBA

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Speaker 1: started tracking it in the early seventies. Seventy three, seventy four,

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Speaker 1: the best shot blocker ever better offensively, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt. I'm not sure outside of Lebron and maybe

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan in my life, MJ Lebron and Wemby. If

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Speaker 1: you asked every GM when all three of those players

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Speaker 1: were like twenty five twenty four, who would you build around.

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Speaker 1: It's unanimous, and I love the joker. Number five is

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Speaker 1: and it's not close. The Western Conference is. It's not

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Speaker 1: even the same sport. It's so much better than the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. Six of the last nine champs are from

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Speaker 1: the West. The top three MVP favorites now from the West,

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Speaker 1: Seven of the top ten MVP favorites are from the West. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: it's a different conference than the East now. Again, if

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Speaker 1: Tatum and Halliburton were around, it would be at least

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Speaker 1: not quite as lobsided. But right now the West feels

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Speaker 1: like the SEC about six years ago. Isn't even an argument.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now they may be the best Big ten's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Six years ago, there was no argument. That's

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Speaker 1: the West in the East now and number six is

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry remains the best long distance shooter in the league,

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Speaker 1: even Luca, as great as he is, can't compare to Steph.

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Speaker 1: Leads the NBA and threes made this season. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Old Steph in the last five years has made sixteen

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one threes. Number two has made three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty fewer. There is no question there has

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Speaker 1: never been a shooter this good from this distance. So

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Speaker 1: everything else in the NBA, to me is absolutely debatable

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Speaker 1: except these six things. Jo Ki's the best player, Luca

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Speaker 1: the best pier score Thunder, the best team. Wemby's who

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Speaker 1: get build around for the next five to ten years.

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Speaker 1: The West is much better than the East. And when

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Speaker 1: it comes to shooting threes, there's one one guy in

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Speaker 1: the league I want to take in that final shot,

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Speaker 1: and that is Steph. I thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: JMX, do you have any thoughts on that? Well, real quick, Colin,

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Speaker 5: look at look on the screen. All I see is

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Speaker 5: Western Conference players. Indeed, what is the East that bad?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 5: I saw the Pacers. I just had to look up

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Speaker 5: the standings. The Pacers are one in thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that For those who questioned Halliburton's value, gosh, I

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Speaker 1: mean Myles Turner left, but.

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Speaker 2: It traded Yeah, they lost Turner in.

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Speaker 1: So anybody out there that doesn't get Halliburton, you don't

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Speaker 1: get basketball.

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Speaker 2: They the Knicks just aren't as interesting yet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if they trade Karl Anthony Towns Yiannis to

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Speaker 5: the Knicks would be great for the league.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a little sad for the East.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was watching, Yeah, I don't. I just

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Speaker 1: keep my eye on what people are watching. I've always said, you,

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Speaker 1: the audience, the consumer, sort of drive this show. I

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Speaker 1: picked you. You largely have a say in what we

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Speaker 1: talk about. And I watch ratings baseball. The last two years,

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Speaker 1: I've spent a ton of time on baseball. Why the

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Speaker 1: numbers have popped? The National League, the Phillies, the Mets,

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Speaker 1: the Padres, the Dodgers, the Cubs, even the upstart Brewers.

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting. I went a long time not talking

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Speaker 1: a lot of college football because I thought it got

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Speaker 1: very regional. It became Georgia, Bama and Clemson, and that's

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Speaker 1: just one tiny subset of the country.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, but college football now everybody was terrified transfer portal

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Speaker 1: nil playoff gonna ruin the college football season. Have you

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Speaker 1: looked at the numbers both networks, Fox and ESPN. Both

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Speaker 1: the pregame shows up twenty some percent, and I think, well,

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Speaker 1: there's two things I can promise you AI and college football.

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Speaker 1: They're both going to grow. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't like changes, but AI will broaden the economy,

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Speaker 1: it won't wreck it. And college football with the player

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Speaker 1: off the nil the transfer portal, the ratings are incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's popped, and I find myself, I mean, this weekend's

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Speaker 1: a great example. I get Oregon in USC, so I

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Speaker 1: get some old school Pack twelve football. But I thought

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Speaker 1: it was great watching Iowa USC last weekend and Oregon

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Speaker 1: Iowa the year before, And so I still get the

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Speaker 1: old school Pack twelve that I love. I can still

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Speaker 1: get Texas playing an old foe. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: how anybody can argue college football now there's just more

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Speaker 1: big games. And to me, college football always had one

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Speaker 1: or two primary issues. Number one was a big game shortage,

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Speaker 1: and number two was if you lost a second game

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Speaker 1: by mid October, your season was over. You're playing the

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Speaker 1: Alamo Bowl. Now Notre Dame's got two losses, I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to make the playoffs. Miami had big wins

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Speaker 1: early they may not US Sea beats Oregon, They're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna make it so. And there was this fear that

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Speaker 1: the little guy was just going to get suffocated by

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Speaker 1: all the money of the nil. Well, it just so happens.

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Speaker 1: Old miss has a lot of money and Lane Kiffin's

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Speaker 1: going to make the playoff, and Indiana apparently has enough

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Speaker 1: money to pay for a star quarterback and a great

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Speaker 1: head coaching. Guy, I look at college football right now.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I moved off college football because I

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Speaker 1: could look at the preseason rankings and it was like

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Speaker 1: I knew Alabama, Georgia and Clemson. If Clemson had an

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Speaker 1: elite quarterback, we're going to be around at the end.

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Speaker 10: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: I feel like after Ohio State, anybody could be anybody

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Speaker 1: in this college football bracket. I mean, big noon Saturday

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Speaker 1: up fifteen percent. More people are interested more big games.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm a West Coast guy. I did

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Speaker 1: not need to see Cal play Oregon State one more

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Speaker 1: time in my life. I just and I'm I'm I

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Speaker 1: was a West Coast loyalist. I just didn't need to

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Speaker 1: see it. I've loved it. I think it's been fun.

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Speaker 1: I think the West Coast teams have helped Big Ten recruiting.

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Speaker 1: I think the Pac twelve has made the Big ten

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Speaker 1: better at quarterback, a little bit smarter offensively, a little

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Speaker 1: more clever. And I think the tradition of the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten has helped the Pac twelve. It's forced USC to

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Speaker 1: get bigger and go after more alignemen, which they need

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Speaker 1: to do without the Big Ten five years ago. So

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Speaker 1: it just you know, everybody's terrified at AI college football

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Speaker 1: is now. I'm going to be the same. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the numbers I've I find myself watching and enjoying

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Speaker 1: more big games than my entire life. It's good football.

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Speaker 1: Joel Klatz around the corner. And if the playoffs started

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Speaker 1: today and most of the teams in now are going

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Speaker 1: to remain in I'm going to go all the way

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Speaker 1: through the playoffs today, and who's going to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Pretty interesting matchups and thoughts next