1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by a DraftKings. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Ink here with Garrett Downing, and we are 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: going to take the deep dive into the Ravens thirty 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: to twenty three win over the Washington Commanders and also 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: talk about some of the other big points coming from 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: this game, even since it ended so Garrett, obviously, the 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: conversation starts with Baltimore's offense, which there is a very 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: strong case to be made right now that the Ravens 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: have the best offense in the NFL. The Commanders came 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: in at number one, the Ravens are number two entering 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: the game, and we all saw who the better offense 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: was on the field on Sunday afternoon. The Ravens currently 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: are top the league in yards per game and by 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: a wide margin over the forty nine ers. They're number 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 2: four points per game twenty nine and a half, and 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: it truly has become a pick your poison offense, as 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: they've talked about. 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: Let's start with the pick your poison. 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 4: We actually before we dive into the conversation, we actually 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: got a good email about Yeah yeah, okay, So I 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: always love the emails. You can email us to the 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: Lounge at Ravens that NFL dy net. Brian Schultz emailed 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: us and said, everyone's talking about pick your poison. Whichever 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: poison you choose. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: It's gonna be purple. 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: It's not really a choice when you look at it 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 4: that way. Teams are just faced with one choice. It's 28 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: purple poison. 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: So there you go. 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: It's purple poison. For the new name is purple poison. 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: Ave the pod. You guys are gelling, like the offensive line. 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: A lot of questions about us coming into this podcast season, 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: but we're coming together. 34 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: We're playing. 35 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: Well. 36 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Who if we're offensive lineman on the Ravens, who are you? 37 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: You kind of strike me as a Roger Vers and 38 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Garden kind. 39 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: Of long, tall lean. 40 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: That's the Tyler Linderbaum. I'm the tyle. Yeah, scrap caps, 41 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: stealing the gable. Yeah, I'll do whatever it takes. Yeah, Okay, 42 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: there we go, some purple poison. We appreciate the email 43 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: from Brian. 44 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I do think when you're looking 45 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: to the team, there is really there's merit to this 46 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: idea that the Ravens have the best offense in football. 47 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 48 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: Dynamic passing the ball, super dynamic running the ball, Lamar 49 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: Jackson and Derrick Henry are both get and buzz in 50 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: the conversation around the MVP talk early in the year, 51 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: maybe some. 52 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: People say one could be the MVP. 53 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 4: Maybe Lamar gets a third MVP and Derek Henry is 54 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: the offensive player of the just hand out all the awards, right, 55 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: So that's. 56 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: The kind of the quarterback gets the MVP and oftentimes 57 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: the best running back gets the Player of. 58 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 3: The Year, best position player like non quarterback often gets that. 59 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that there's there's merit to all 60 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: of that, and I think that the Ravens offense is 61 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: in a great spot right now. I think Todd Munkin 62 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: is dialing things up in a great way, and I 63 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: think the Raves have a lot of different. 64 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Weapons and it's an exciting thing. 65 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 4: It's it's really fun to see it unfold on game 66 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: bas like you don't know who it's going to be. 67 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: But I think that, like there's as we talked about 68 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: after the game on Sunday, I don't see really a 69 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: scenario where this offense won't be able to have success 70 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: unless the Ravens hurt themselves. 71 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: Right well, you know, to the Purple Poison conversation, they 72 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: have so many different ways to beat you, and with 73 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: so many different personnel groupings and and all that. They 74 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: can stretch you horizontally, they can attack you vertically, they 75 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: can just punch you in the mouth with Derrick Henry. 76 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: So when you have that many different options, it's really 77 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: hard for a defense to know where to start. You know, 78 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: you can't shut them all down, right, You kind of 79 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: have to pick, like we're talking about. And I mean, 80 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: this rushing attack right now is on pace to be 81 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: better than the Ravens record setting rushing attack back in 82 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. 83 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how good it is. 84 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: And not only that, the passing game has really heated 85 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: up the past two weeks. Obviously in Cincinnati they come 86 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: from behind and then again just very efficient against the 87 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Commanders in that secondary. I mean, for Shat Bateman and 88 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: Zay Flowers caught every pass that came to them except 89 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: for two when you're shot Baitman drew penalties all thirteen 90 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: targets catches. Yeah, and so Lamar's playing at a really 91 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: high level. And quite frankly, when all is said and done, 92 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: when Lamar is playing at this level, point blank evens 93 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: are going to be hard to beat. And hard to 94 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: stop on offense when Lamar is playing at this high level, 95 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: which I agree with some of the takes out there 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: that this is the best that Lamar Jackson has ever 97 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: played and the guy's got two MVPs already. 98 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's hard to argue against that. I 99 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: think the efficiency is there, the mastery of the offense 100 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: is there. 101 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: And when Toddmunkin came in. 102 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Last year, a big focus of his was we want 103 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: to give Lamar Jackson more power. We want to give 104 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: him the keys to the offense. That was the This 105 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: year's picked your poison, that's the buzzword. 106 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: Last year, it was. 107 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: All about keys to the offense. That was what everybody 108 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 4: was talking about. And you see that at the line 109 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: of scrimmage. I think what we don't see is even 110 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: during the week, Lamar has input in the process and 111 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: conversations with Tom Monkin and the coaches, and so Lamar 112 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 4: has just I think, really has a full mastery of 113 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: this offense. Part of that is the system fits in. 114 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: Part of that is just being a veteran player who 115 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: knows the game more and sees things and has that experience. 116 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: And he should play out just to be a little 117 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: bit more specific. You know, even in Blitz pick up. 118 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: The Ravens have been very good against the Blitz this year. 119 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: That was a big storyline coming out of the Commander's game, 120 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: and it rang true again versus I'm sorry out of 121 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: the Bengals game, and it rang true again. That kind 122 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: of that was one way that opponents had success against 123 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: the Ravens in years past. And Lamar Jackson is dicing 124 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: it up right now. 125 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 4: It seems like a million years ago, where like the 126 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: whole covers zero Blitz conversation really, which kind of started 127 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 4: on that Thursday night game down in Miami where the 128 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: Dolphins created a ton of problems for the Ravens offense, 129 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: like and it was like, oh. 130 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Cover zero Blitz. 131 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: There's been like four different times where like the Raves 132 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: lose a game and it's like, well you figured it 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: out right and exactly and. 134 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: Remember all the way back to the twenty eighteen playoffs 135 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: against the Chargers defensive backs on the field and exactly. 136 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: There's no And so now it's to a point where 137 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: it's like there's no answer. And it's not just Lamar, 138 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 4: but it's the weapons, it's Derrick Henry, it's all that 139 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: and so, but cover zero blitz. The Ravens have clearly 140 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: shown that they were able to beat that. 141 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, and so kind of the latest thing was man 142 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: and man coverage outside make them beat you? What make 143 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: the wide receivers beat you outside and then put get 144 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure, uh you know, single high safety 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: and get a lot of pressure on Lamar and all that. 146 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: Not just blitz, but you know it's it's that mando 147 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: man coverage and and we're going to get into that. 148 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: I want to start talking about this run game first, 149 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: but that man and man coverage that ain't working either 150 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: right now. So uh, but first, Garrett, I want to 151 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: talk about the Ravens rushing game. And one thing that 152 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: stood out to me this week and and really this 153 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: has been the past three weeks, is their finishing move. 154 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Did you play Mortal Kombat girl? 155 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember. 156 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Scorpion or what was this scorpion? 157 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: Scorpion? Right? 158 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 159 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeahb zero, Yes, I mean did the whole chain come out? 160 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: Here's my favorite. 161 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of good finishing games 162 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: in that game, right, and the Ravens have their own now, right, 163 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: And so people are kind of dubbing Derrick Henry the closer. Well, 164 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, every good superhero needs a finishing move, and 165 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: so what it's been is the toss left to Derrick Henry. 166 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: I formation, toss left to Derrick Henry. 167 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 168 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: That was the twenty seven yard run against the Commanders. 169 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: That was the fifty one yard run in overtime against 170 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and it was a long run that took 171 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: him right down to the goal line against the Bills. 172 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: That was early in the fourth quarter to really kind 173 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: of put that game away. I mean it was a blowout, 174 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: but that one that was the final tagger. 175 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 176 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: So really interesting to see that play work three times 177 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: in critical situations. Very similar plays. But when you take 178 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: a look at the film, there's wrinkles to it. 179 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Right, and the way that they blocked that up. 180 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: Who they call on, you know, whether it be Tyler Wallace, 181 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Nelson Agalore was a key you know point you know, 182 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: at the point of point of attack, right, he made 183 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: a key block on that one. 184 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: And then pat Ricarr. 185 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: The commonality is pat Ricarr getting out in front of 186 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Derek Henry and Derrek Henry just hitting the jets and 187 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: leaving people in the dust. Yeah, and it's interesting to see, 188 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, part of the question is, all right, the 189 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: Ravens have done this in three straight games. 190 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Can they keep getting away with this? 191 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: But why they're getting away with it is A, like 192 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: I said, there's different wrinkles to it, and B they're 193 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: really balanced as a rushing attack right now, when you 194 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: look at the splits in terms of you know, outside left, 195 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: inside left, inside right, outside right, runs, extremely balanced in 196 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: how much they're running it to all spots. And even 197 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: when you look at the next gen stats like success rate, 198 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: very balanced in that regard to and now I mean 199 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: yards per carry nine point three outside left. That's in 200 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: large part because of those big runs. But when you 201 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: look at the two touchdowns, they're inside, outside right and 202 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: inside right, you know, So that is what's keeping the 203 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: opponents on their toes. They can't just key in on, hey, 204 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: it's going to be toss left, watch out for that 205 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: because they're having success running it across the board and 206 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: staying really balanced as a un game. 207 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Well, a couple. 208 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: Things on the toss. 209 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: When you look at Derrick Henry in his time in Tennessee, 210 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: the toss play was something that he's been very skilled at, 211 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: and part of it is get him the football and 212 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: allow him to find a lane and then he can 213 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: break through the line. He's got the speed and power, 214 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: and then he knows obviously you know what happens when 215 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: he gets green grass. Like I remember when they when 216 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: I saw that the first time in practice this spring 217 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: and summer, and he like they started running that in practice, 218 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: like oh okay, that's the Derek Henry play and him 219 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: coming down hill at you with all. 220 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: Those blockers who are athletic blockers. 221 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: You get like Ronnie Stanley out there, super athletic guy 222 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 4: who are athletic out in space pat Ricard. You have 223 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: like these athletic guys, and then Derek Henry comes up with. 224 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: You know, they've used the tight ends also as key blockers, 225 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: and Isaiah Likely and Charlie Kohler have been especially Isaiah 226 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: I have been really good out in space blocking. 227 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: So then that's so that's part of it. It just fits 228 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: Dereck Henry, it fits this offense. The other part of it, too, 229 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: is that the defense has to respect the fake on it. 230 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: They have to respect Lamars Jackson and the fake because 231 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 4: if you don't, there's gonna be one of these times 232 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: where Lamar fakes a toss and then spins out to 233 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: the right and. 234 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: There's nothing bout boot leg out the back. 235 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: There's nothing but green grass, or he throws. 236 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: It or it's action bootleg and he throws it over 237 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: your head. 238 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: That can happen. 239 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: And we saw that when you watch the twenty seven 240 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: yard run on the Ravens final drive against the Commanders. 241 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: Two Commanders defenders, two defensive backs completely running in the 242 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: wrong like ran themselves out of the play. Yeah, because 243 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: they were respecting Lamar Jackson's ability to boot leg out 244 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: in the back of it. 245 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 246 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: And so that's the other part of this is it's 247 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: the combination of Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson having the 248 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: respect both of their running abilities that really puts defenders 249 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: in a bind. 250 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's working. It's working perfectly on that play, 251 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: but not just that Play's that's the finishing move, that's 252 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: the closer. And Yeah, there's been a kind of an 253 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: interesting conversation this week. Micah Parson's started this conversation on 254 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: his podcast when he made the point that Lamar Jackson 255 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: and Derreck Henry might be the best quarterback running back 256 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: duo in NFL history. So that's coming from Michael Parsons 257 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: who is a pretty dark good player. 258 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: They had a pretty dark good game against and he. 259 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: Had he had a first hand look at that a 260 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: few weeks ago. 261 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: He had troubles. 262 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: And so the first of all, what's your take on that. 263 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: I've got some list year I did my history. 264 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 265 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to the archives here to pull up 266 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: some names. But what is your take on that comment 267 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 4: from Michael Parsons. 268 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, my take is we're through six weeks, so 269 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: like we can't proclaim we're not crowning anybody yet, right, 270 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: I know, Derrick Henry is the king, but and he 271 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: always wears the crown, but like this is a different crown. 272 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 273 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: You know, so I think they it merits conversation, something 274 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: to monitor by season's end. If they continue at this pace, 275 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: I think they will have a very good case, especially 276 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: if you take him the hardware you win in super 277 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: like that adds to the argument, right, definitely. On the ground, 278 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: if you're talking about like best ever quarterback running back 279 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: rushing duo, yeah, I mean so RG three and Alfred 280 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: Morris hold the record for the most combined rushing yards 281 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: quarterback running back in a single season back in twenty twelve, 282 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: they ran for twenty four hundred and twenty eight rushing yards. 283 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Henry's on pace for almost two thousand. 284 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: Derek will take care of I'll take you. 285 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I got that one. 286 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: I got that. 287 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: You know. 288 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: Lamar is on pace for eleven hundred. 289 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: So they're on pace right now for three and thirty 290 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: five rushing yards. 291 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 292 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing that's crazy right now with it, 293 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: Like when you look at the numbers and it is 294 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: through six weeks, and so things will change, but but 295 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: the on pace, but like six games is not a 296 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: small sample size either. 297 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: So you're a third of the way through the season. 298 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, more then, and so Dereck Henry's flirting with two 299 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: thousand yards a historic kind of season. Lamar Jackson is 300 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: on pace for over eleven hundred rushing yards, like you 301 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: just said. So the Ravens are on pace to break 302 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: the historic mark that they said in twenty nineteen, which 303 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: I think when they broke that, it was kind of like, man, 304 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: this record is going to stand for a long time. 305 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: And now we here we are five years later, and 306 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 4: they might break their own record, and Derek Henry, who's 307 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame running back, might have the best 308 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: season of his career, and Lamar Jackson, who is already 309 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: has two MVPs, might have the best rushing season of 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: his career and the best throwing season. They're coming up 311 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: on their record of consecutive one hundred yard rushing games. Also, 312 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: remember that one where they broke it against Vicvay. 313 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, breaking that record? Oh yeah, I went and looked. 314 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, Vic's a DC again this year. But it's 315 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: a few games after Okay, so they if they get 316 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: to Vic, they've already broken the record, which I was 317 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, this could be juicy. 318 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, not the case. So they can. So a 319 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: lot of records in sight. Think that's one that's insight. 320 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: So let's pull some of the other candidates here, you know, 321 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: as we're talking about best quarterback running back duo ever 322 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: and there's a lot of good names here right we're 323 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 4: talking about the NFL history, Troy Aikman and Emma Smith, 324 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 4: Hall of famers, John Elway, Terrell Davis, Kurt Warner, Marshall, 325 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 4: fulk Roger Stauback, Tony Dorsett, Terry Bridshaw, Frank o'harris, Peyton Man, Edgrin, James, 326 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: Philip Rivers, Ladanian Tomlinson, Like a lot of those are 327 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: a lot. 328 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: That's a good one to two punch. 329 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: There, Ladanian Tomlinson. Derrick Henry just you know, was tied 330 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: his record. He's the first running back since LaDainian Tomlinson 331 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: to score six touchdowns in six straight games. 332 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? 333 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 334 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: I mean, but in this list here you have a 335 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: handful of players who are both Hall of Famers, like 336 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 4: Akeman and Emma Smith and Peyton Manning and Edgrian James. 337 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: You got a bunch of those guys. 338 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: I was in track of all the records that the 339 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: refords are setting offensively right now, is all the on 340 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: base stuff. 341 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: I know, it is hard to keep tracking it. So 342 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: to Michael Parson's point, like, I don't know if the rate, 343 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: if if this duo, if they're there yet, but if 344 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: they continue to play like they have through these first 345 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: six games, I do think that there is a very 346 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: strong case for this for that and I and I 347 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: think that already if you're talking about rushing attack, then 348 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: they're already there. 349 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, And what's crazy is that Derek Henry's 350 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: running back, whoever, his career has gotten better. 351 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: As the season has gone off. Yeah. 352 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: Right, and when the weather turns cold and you you're 353 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: running that ball, had it even higher rate, and defenders 354 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: even want to tackle even less they do now they're 355 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: beat up from the season and just it hurts more 356 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: in the cold. 357 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so do I think that they can continue 358 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: at this rate? Yeah? I do. I don't. I don't 359 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: see why not. Yeah. 360 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: I don't really see him slowing down. And that's and 361 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: that's the thing. It would be if Derek Henry gets 362 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 4: two thousand rushing yards, that would be It's hard to 363 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 4: imagine that just based on all the weapons. But when 364 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: you watch it every week, I don't really see him 365 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: slowing down. And I'm with you that as you look 366 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: at the the rest of the season, I don't think that. 367 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: I think he will only get stronger, just like he 368 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: does in games. 369 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: And some of it is you look at the schedule 371 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: and some of these defenses that are coming up, you know, Videvea, 372 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: the Bucks coming up on Monday Night. That is, he 373 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: is a tough, tough defensive lineman. 374 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 375 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: You know, the Browns always play the Ravens tough. They 376 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: have a very aggressive attacking defense. The Steelers, we all 377 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: know how good their defense usually is, so that that's 378 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: part of it. Yeah, sure, but. 379 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm betting on the Ravens, so yeah, yeah. 380 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: The other right, the other part of it is just 381 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: going back to the pick your poison thing. So the 382 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: you can't just key on Derek Henry because then they 383 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: can be with the passing game. And looking at the film, 384 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: that's part of what the Commanders did. They played the 385 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: single highest safety stuff and they brought a lot of 386 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: guys down on the box, and so then you have 387 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: your receivers out on the edge in one on one 388 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: man demand matchups. Yeah, and the Ravens are able to 389 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: win those matchups and they had success with that, especially 390 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: with day Flowers in. 391 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: The first half. Yeah. 392 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: So the Manners played Cover one on the vast majority 393 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: of their snaps forty seven percent of their defensive snaps. 394 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: The Ravens had a plus twenty point six completion percentage 395 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: against that. 396 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Coverage, so they were just shredding. Commanders kept going to it. 397 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: And so Cover one is Manda man coverage on the 398 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: wide receivers, single high safety, as you're mentioning, and which 399 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: is notable I think because I went back to the 400 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: vault here found the old Ryan Clark from ESPN, you know, 401 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: And after the Ravens lost the Commanders, he said, no 402 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: disrespect is a Flowers and Rashad Bateman. But I ain't scared. 403 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: I'm not scared on the outside if I have to 404 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: be Manda man one on one. At this point he 405 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: said that actually they lost to the Raiders. 406 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: After week two. 407 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: I said, I ain't scared, right, And I love how 408 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: if you throw no disrespect at the front of any statement, 409 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: then all he said. 410 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Really say what I can say? You can just slap 411 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: a man across the face. No disrespect, you know, Yeah, 412 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: that was pretty disrespectful. 413 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: And so in this game Flowers and Rashad Baman and 414 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: not just in this game, I think it's really been 415 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: the past two weeks. 416 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: They have been playing really well, and they ate. 417 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: They ate the Commanders one on one coverage, and when 418 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: they went man man to man, they just ran, I 419 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: mean their route, running their speed. Zay Flowers was really 420 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: stretching them horizontally across the field. 421 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: They just couldn't keep up with them. 422 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: And then the yards after catch, uh was elite for 423 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: Zay Flowers in this game. 424 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: And and then Bateman just you know. 425 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: You saw a couple critical drives won the comeback route 426 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: from him from him just left the defender in the 427 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: dust his last catch of the game. I mean it 428 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: was an outside inside move that created nearly five yards 429 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: of separation. Yeah, he averaged four and a half yards 430 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: of separation in this game. And he's a guy that 431 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: came into the league third highest separation rate in the 432 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: league among wide receivers. So Rashad Bateman continues to get separation. 433 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: It's been good to see Lamar find him more often. 434 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: And like you're seeing that UO really proved themselves as 435 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: a fantastic one two punch. 436 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: Well, look that one of the big stories in the 437 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: NFL this week was Tavante Adams. He gets traded to 438 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: the New York Jets, and I know that a lot 439 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: of Ravens stands thawt there was potentially that he could 440 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: land in Baltimore, especially when he seemed to add a 441 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: little fuel to the fire with the Edgar Allen Poe 442 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: picture on Instagram a couple of weeks ago, and a 443 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: lot of Ravenstaners thinking could this happened? The reports were 444 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: that the Ravens were not really in the market there. 445 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: That's what multiple media autlets reported over the course of 446 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: the last week. Initially there was maybe a little bit 447 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: of buzz that maybe they could be, but obviously he 448 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: ends up in New York. Seems like he wanted to 449 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: team up with Aaron Rodgers all along. 450 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: And that's what the reports were kind of consistently. Fonte 451 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: Adams has some explaining to do ay the whole don't 452 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: believe anything you hear thing. I mean, everybody was saying 453 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: You're going to the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, So I 454 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: guess I am gonna believe what I here. Plus Eggar 455 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: Allan Poe thing like, what was that about. I know, 456 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: I would like somebody to ask him that this is 457 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: somebody in the Jets media cords. 458 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: You might have to go up to New York for 459 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 4: the press. The introductiony press conference exactly asked that question. 460 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 4: But so anyway, you know, he ends up in the 461 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: York and you know, you can connect the two in 462 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 4: the sense that, like the Ravens, I don't know if 463 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: they were in the market or not, based on reports 464 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 4: that they really weren't, but the Ravens are betting on 465 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: Rashaan Bateman and Zay Flowers, and that's been pretty consistent 466 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: over the course of the lat of the entire year, 467 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: that the Ravens have confidence in those two guys. 468 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: It's looking like a very good bet. And there's good reason. 469 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 3: To feel that way. 470 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 4: Like we've just spent all the time talking about pick 471 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: your poison, the best offense in the league. Well, Zay 472 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: Flowers is coming off back to back on hundred yard games, 473 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: a career high with one hundred and thirty two receiving 474 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: yards and that was just in the first half. Didn't 475 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: even get a catch in the second half. So it 476 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 4: seems like these guys are getting better. Baitman came up 477 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: with really big catches and big moments when they kind 478 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: of needed to get jump started in this game. A 479 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: quiet four for seventy one, but really important. It just 480 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: seems like these guys are getting better and the Ravens 481 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 4: are using them in the right way. 482 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. 483 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: I think that when you look at it, you're like, Okay, 484 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: Davonte Adams is a great player. Like it's not like, oh, 485 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: you can't use Davonte Adams, but like for what you 486 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: have to give up and all that do you really 487 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: need is that the best allocation of resources doesn't look 488 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: like it right now you know, and especially not just now, 489 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: but long term, you know that that's a major commitment. 490 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: And the Ravens are committed to these two guys and 491 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: for good reason. And I think it's cool to see 492 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson rely on Rashat Bateman in some critical situations. 493 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: And I brought up that the two catches early on 494 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: on a long touch on driving the second quarter where 495 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens took the lead in that game, and it 496 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 2: was a third and I think it was a third 497 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: and five Ravens are backed up, and for Lamar it 498 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: was clear Number one read is Rashat Bateman on the comeback. 499 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: It's one on one coverage and he's gonna rely on 500 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: Rashot to beat that guy, and he's gonna hit him 501 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: on that sideline throw, which that that like ten yard out. 502 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: I feel like Bateman could just eat on that all 503 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: day long. 504 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 505 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he puts on the brakes, he ends a 506 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: I was just saying, both those guys they can just. 507 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Put on the brakes like nobody else. 508 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, And uh so it was cool to see Lamar 509 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: just kind of rely on him in that situation that 510 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: make the play. And I think that that's only going 511 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: to build as the season goes on. 512 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like those guys can get open, 513 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: and especially if they're in there's these single cover situations. 514 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know if Eric Tacosta will 515 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: end up making a trade at the deadline, Like he's 516 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: proven the willingness and he's proven to be aggressive. He's 517 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: done that many times, and so I'm not ruling it out. 518 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: But when you have the top ranked offense, I think 519 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 4: it's a fair question to ask do you need to 520 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: bring in even a great Hall of Fame player? Do 521 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: you need to do that or would you rather allocate 522 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: those resources for this year and beyond to another position. 523 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: And I think that that's a very fair point to take, 524 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: a fair approach to take. And the Ravens they're hummet 525 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: on offense, So you don't need to fix what's not 526 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: broken right, right. 527 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: If it ain't broke right? Yeah, you know that kind 528 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: of saying. 529 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: There we go, all right, so let's take a break, 530 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: and when we come back, we're gonna jump into the 531 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: defensive tape talk about what's going right and wrong on 532 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: that side of the ball, as well as some more 533 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: conversation points. Since the Ravens win over the Commanders. 534 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 4: You're listening to the Lage podcast, We're coming to you 535 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: for the Seik Studio. We also want to mention our 536 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: partners with Draft King Sportsbook. They are an official sports 537 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft Kings Sportsbook. The 538 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: crown is yours, all right. 539 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: So, one thing that stood out to me on tape 540 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: and in the box score was the Ravens run defense, 541 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: and we discussed how important that was for keeping the 542 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: Commanders in third and long situations and Jane Daniels in 543 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: those kind of situations where he couldn't run the ball 544 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: to pick up first downs easily, and looking at the film, 545 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's really across the board. And I asked 546 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: John Harball this question about what's going right, and he 547 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 2: kind of echoed this that a the defensive front is 548 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: just really really stout, and to me, it starts with 549 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: the two big guys in the middle nom the mattabk 550 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: and Travis Jones, and not to mention Michael Pierce. 551 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Those guys are. 552 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: Playing in an incredibly high level and uh, you know, 553 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: I mean even even the Commander's Nick Algaretti was talking 554 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: about this and he called them elite those two guys 555 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: and said, look, when you have guys that can not 556 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: only stop the run like them, but then also get 557 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: after the passer, it's really hard to beat. And Travis 558 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: Jones right now has the second highest Pro Football Focus 559 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: grade of any Ravens defensive player, only behind Kyle van Noy. 560 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: He went on that crazy six sax streak. Travis Jones, 561 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: playing at a very high level, got his first sack 562 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four season against the Commanders. 563 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Another just club move. 564 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he is just clubbing guys, and and so 565 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: he's playing very well. Not to mention Nomdi and Nomy's 566 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: getting a lot of double team looks. They're paying him 567 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: a lot of attention. Travis Jones is taking full advantage 568 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: of them, huh. And so those two guys are where 569 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: it starts. Then you have Roquan, who you know, particularly 570 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: against the run. Roquan had his struggles and pass defense 571 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: in this game, but against the run, I mean, Roqwan's 572 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: a maniac yeah, and a tone setter. Absolutely, He's a 573 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: tone center all the time. And so he's playing at 574 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: a high level. And it's not just them as defensive backs. 575 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey sniffing stuff out. Kyle Hamilton playing really strong 576 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: against against the run. And so this this run defense 577 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: is going to make it hard on anybody and everybody, 578 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: and at a historic rate right now. By the way, 579 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: so the Ravens have allowed fifty nine rushing yards per 580 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: game through the first six weeks. That is the third 581 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: best mark. If they finished that way, they finished the 582 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: back to the pace on pace, yeah. 583 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: They'd be that. 584 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: That's the third best mark in NFL history, in the 585 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: best in Ravens history, or not the best, better than 586 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: the two thousand Ravens the Super Bowl defense, which was 587 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: known as the rest of all time, better than them barely. 588 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: They were sixty point six yards per game. 589 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I will that comes with that asterix, not 590 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 2: only because a were just the first six weeks, but 591 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: different time, different era football. Running the football back then 592 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: was that was the bread and butter, and so what 593 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: the Ravens did in two thousand was ridiculous. Yeah, and 594 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: you could certainly argue that, well, the Ravens are giving 595 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: up a lot of yards to the air, so that's 596 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: just how are attacking them, not through the ground. But 597 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: the Ravens are also doing a really good job on 598 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: per rush on a per rush basis, there are also 599 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: tops in the league, by the way, So this this 600 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: run defense is legit good anyway you look at it. 601 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: I think it's a really good run defense. 602 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: And this was a tough rushing attack they're going up 603 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: against and Jane Daia. Now you need to mention that 604 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 4: they're starting running back. Brian Robinson did not play in 605 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: this game, so that's that's significant down. They're starting running back. 606 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: But Jane Daniels really didn't have big much room to 607 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: run in this game. I think his long rush of 608 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: the day was nine yards, so he didn't have the 609 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: type of success on the ground that he had had 610 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: coming into that game. I thought the Ravens were really 611 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: disciplined in both their pass rush lanes on him and 612 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 4: in keeping him in front of them from a run 613 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: defense standpoint. So it just was a strong gay from 614 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: the wrong from that defensive front. And yeah, I think that, 615 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: Like I will say, I feel like I learned my 616 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: lesson a little bit earlier this season when we were 617 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: coming into the year and we were saying this is 618 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: the best secondary ever and you know, best secondary Ravens history, 619 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: and no doubt about the best secondary the league, and 620 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 4: they struggled, right, they struggled earlier this year, and so 621 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily gonna after six games, I feel like 622 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: less confident that they're going to maintain that pace, that 623 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: historic pace that you're talking about than I do. Rush 624 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: to the flip side, yeah, just because I think that 625 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: could even out over the course of the year. You 626 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: probably some good rushing attacks. I think that could even 627 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: out a little bit more. But I do think it 628 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: will be a really strong run defense league wide. I 629 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 4: think they'll continue to be good, but I just don't 630 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: know if it will continue to be at that historic pace. 631 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Just just to correct myself, I'm sorry. 632 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: It was. 633 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: The Ravens allowed two point nine yards per carry against 634 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: the Commanders. On the season, it's three yards per carry, 635 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: which is still number one in the league, like you mentioned, 636 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: and it's not even close. Pittsburgh's at three point six 637 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: and it's very close from there on. And so yeah, 638 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, the Steelers are gonna run the 639 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: ball a lot. There's some other good running teams, you know, 640 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: does Nick Chubb come back for the rounds and whatnot. 641 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: But as long as the Ravens stay healthy on that 642 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: front four. I mean, you gotta give me props. I've 643 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: been talking about this Ravens defensive line since May and 644 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: how good I think that is gonna be and it 645 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: has come to few. 646 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been You've been saying Travis Jones phrases for 647 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: a while and he's delivering on that. Yeah, he goes 648 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: out there every game. He's like, I need to make 649 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 4: Ryan Bank proud. I know he's been talking about this 650 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: on the Lounge for months now, and I need to 651 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: do it for the Louge podcast and make sure that 652 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: I deliver one that talk. 653 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: And like I said, the secondary, the defensive backs deserve 654 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: credit for that too. Like that's part of what makes 655 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton so good is you put him in the 656 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: box and like he is a handful too, and not 657 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: just with some of those huge hits that he laid 658 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: on the Commanders and Terry mclaurum. 659 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how Arry McLarin had onto that. 660 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: Football me either, but even just as a really strong 661 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: run defender, he and Marlon just very good. 662 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 4: Also, I want to I want to point out the 663 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: pass rush. John Harbaugh said that the pass rush in 664 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: this game he thinks played maybe it's best game of 665 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: the season. 666 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: In part pretty that Bill's game is pretty dark good. 667 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: They run for his life the whole game, yeah. 668 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 3: In part, and Josh Allen can run as. 669 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Well, exactly. 670 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: So part of it was because they contained Jade and Daniels, 671 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: but they also did that against Josh Allen. He didn't 672 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: beat him with their legs and they were hitting him 673 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: every right he took. 674 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: He took a beating in that game, for sure, he did. 675 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: But I thought that the you know that is that 676 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 4: was an interesting statement from him to feel like this. 677 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: The pass rush, you know, played really strong in this game, 678 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: and I think that, like what in your mind? So 679 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: the defense I thought took a big step forward in 680 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: this game, but I still think they there's things that 681 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 4: they need to clean up. I think that there's still 682 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: some things that are too easy. Zach Oritz kind of 683 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: got going in the second half of this game. That 684 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: first touchdown to Terry McLaurin was too easy in the 685 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: back of the end zone. Seemed like Marcus Williams just 686 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: bit on a underneath route option there and Jane Daniels 687 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: had you know, kind of looked him, looked him off 688 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: the receiver and McLaurin was wide opening the end zone. So, like, 689 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: what is your take on what needs to improve defensively 690 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 4: to clean up the issues that have cost them. 691 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: I think it's it's a game of whack a mole, 692 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: you know. It's it's one problem springs up and you 693 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: bash that one on the head and you try to 694 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: eliminate that, and then here comes another one. Right, And 695 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: so it was like these shallow crossers were the issue 696 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. 697 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: They mostly cleaned that up. 698 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, John Harwell said it was kind of 699 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: a technique issue, just how they were playing with the 700 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: playing those covered it and they've cleaned those up. Then 701 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: there's been just busted coverages. Didn't have any of those 702 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: against Commanders. Hopefully that's a thing of the past. Also, uh, 703 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: and now in this game against the Commanders, it was 704 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: kind of the over routes the crossers that not went 705 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: didn't go underneath of the linebackers, but between the linebackers 706 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: and safeties. 707 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: And we've seen that some in other games. 708 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: That seems to be a common theme that that area. 709 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that has been an issue. 710 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: Rokuon has uh, you know, he did not have a 711 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: good game in coverage in this in this game. I 712 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: thought some of that was Jane Daniels made some really 713 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: good anticipation throwers one that broken reached out and almost 714 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: had and it was a great play by Jaden great 715 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: catch too. But yeah, they need to clean that stuff 716 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: up and and right now it just does. It doesn't 717 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: feel like the linebackers and the safeties are necessarily playing 718 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: on the same rhythm. You know that they haven't quite 719 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: worked that kink out up the spine of their defense. 720 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that will that's something that needs 721 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: to improve, you know, and you're going up this week. 722 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 4: He gets a Bucks team that just put up like 723 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: a thousand points last week, like. 724 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: One I think was that was it fifty one? I mean, 725 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: they've put up a fifty spot. We just want to 726 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: be clear it wasn't a thousand, you know. 727 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you for I could remember a fact check. 728 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: It was it fifty one or was it a thousand? 729 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 4: I was trying to think about that. But like, and 730 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield leads the league of touchdown passes, so like 731 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: you're he it's. 732 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: Very good all but I mean it's really every week. 733 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: It's just it's going to be a good offense. So 734 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: I just think that like this, this passing. 735 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: We're going to talk more about this upcoming matchup against 736 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 4: the Bucks, but this pass defense is really going to 737 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: be stressed again in this game. And I think that 738 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 4: those issues that have cost them at times, I think 739 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: they need to continue to work on those issues. 740 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, completely agree. One thing. One news item here before 741 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: we go. 742 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: The Ravens have promoted Unique and Gaway to the fifty 743 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: three man roster from the practice squad, which whatever he's 744 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: playing on game days anyway, not that big of a 745 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: new of an item, but you know, he explained well, 746 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: and he got a sack against the Commander, and I 747 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: think it was notable that he had, and not by 748 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: a wide margin, but he had more snaps than David 749 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: Ajabo did in that game. And so he's given them 750 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of a of a pass rush boost 751 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: and and it is cool to see a guy who 752 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us kind of thought when 753 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: the first meeting between Yanique and the Ravens didn't really 754 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: pan out as well as expected when the Ravens traded 755 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: for him at the deadline, that Orenian's unlikely here, but 756 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, Yanique has made it clear that he made 757 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: it clear that he wanted to come back and play 758 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: for this team, and he watched him in Kansas City 759 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: and wanted to be at that game. And it's his 760 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: hometown team. He grew up, you know, in DC, Maryland, 761 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: and he wanted to come back here and be a 762 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: part of this. And you could really see when John 763 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: Harball gave him game ball after this win over the Commanders, 764 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: how much it is meant to Yanique and and it's 765 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: cool to see him producing. 766 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh said that every time they talk, it feels 767 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: like Yanique tells him like, hey, this is I wanted 768 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: to be here, and tells him just how much he 769 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: wanted to be here be part of the team. And 770 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: I thought that getting him getting the game ball after 771 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: this victory, it's not often that a guy gets a 772 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: game ball from the practice squad, right, and so it 773 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: was kind of a precursor to that him getting elevated 774 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: to the fifty three. 775 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: So the best game ball though, was also being Cleveland. 776 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: That was pretty cool. 777 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: That was a good one. 778 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: He got a game ball for obviously the block that 779 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: he had, And I was really happy for Ben Cleveland, 780 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: like he's taken you know, the field goal block. Yeah, sorry, 781 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: the field goal block, like he's taken some heat and 782 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 4: hasn't you know, played in the starting lineup on the 783 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 4: offensive line, and you know all that whole conversation. 784 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: But man, he was. 785 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: I thought you could see how much it meant to 786 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: him when he got the field goal block. 787 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: He was really fired up. 788 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 4: And then when he got the game ball in the 789 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 4: locker room, his teammates really cheer for him and supported him. 790 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: It was a good moment for him. Like, I don't 791 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: know that I've ever seen him happier in his time 792 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: with the Ravens side. 793 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: It just was. 794 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 3: It was really cool to see. 795 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: I agree, and kudos to him for going to Chris 796 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 2: Shorton and saying like, hey, can I get on field 797 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: goal block? 798 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm big, I'm tall. 799 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: You know, like I want to contribute in some way, 800 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, it is tough. Like I think 801 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought that with both of the 802 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 2: Ravens guards heading elsewhere in free agency this past offseason, 803 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: that Ben Cleveland was the leader to get one of 804 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: those starting spots. A lot of people expect that hasn't 805 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: come to fruition, and but kudos to him for being like, 806 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: all right, I still want to help, you know, and 807 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: find a role when hey, maybe he can get another one. 808 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: Maybe this is the start of benk Cleveland's you know, 809 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: field goal blocking career. 810 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: I mean, look, Brent Urbans kind of has an act 811 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 4: for that is a big guy, right, those two guys, 812 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: you know, those are big guys. That makes it challenging 813 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 4: for and Ben also, like if you actually look at 814 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: the film and that like he crashes the pocket and 815 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: he gets a little bit of pressure on that. 816 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 2: Is kind of like a wedge cud of play, and yeah, 817 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: he moves him back a little bit. 818 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to get the next gen 819 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: stats on on hops, you know, like how high you 820 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: got in the air? 821 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't know that it was a lot, but the 822 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: mirror fact that it was a large it was enough, 823 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: and he's a big enough human being that it didn't matter. 824 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: I think. 825 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: Really it's also a mentality thing, right, Like when Ben 826 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: Cleveland sees that ball out there, he pictures a squirrel 827 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: and he's like, go get that squirrel, And so when 828 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: it's helping the air man, he's reaching for it. 829 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: I snagged it. 830 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 4: I loved it, man. I was happy for Van. So 831 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 4: congrats to him. So we are going to continue to 832 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 4: break down this game coming up against the Bucks, as 833 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 4: well as working on getting a player interview this week, 834 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 4: so we will be back with you with that coming up. 835 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 4: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 836 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 4: Ravens NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening 837 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 4: and we'll be back with you again soon