WEBVTT - Requiem for Stop Cop City

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<v Speaker 1>Alzoone Media get ready for anarchy in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be clear to all Americans that we have

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<v Speaker 2>a very serious left wing terror threat in our country.

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<v Speaker 3>State of the art, organized and well funded activists in criminals.

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<v Speaker 4>On April twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, after almost exactly

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<v Speaker 4>four years of protests, sabotage, encampments, and organizing against the

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<v Speaker 4>construction of a state of the art police training facility

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<v Speaker 4>dubbed copp City, the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center officially

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<v Speaker 4>opened atop of the South River Forest into Kabba County, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 4>One two three cuts.

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlanta Public Safety Training Center is open. A handshake

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<v Speaker 1>between Governor Brian Kemp and are relieved Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens.

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<v Speaker 5>Here has not been an easy journey.

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<v Speaker 1>The opening of the one hundred and eighteen million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>complex for police, fire and E nine to one one personnel,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes academic, leadership and simulation centers, came after not months,

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<v Speaker 1>but years of public pushback.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been covering the combined Defend the Atlanta Forest, Stop cop

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<v Speaker 4>City movement on this show since twenty twenty one. I

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<v Speaker 4>first traveled to Atlanta to report on the ground from

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<v Speaker 4>inside of the protest encampments in spring of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 4>and I moved to Atlanta to continue covering story more

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<v Speaker 4>in depth in twenty twenty three. My coverage has tracked

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<v Speaker 4>the trajectory of the movement as well as my ability

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<v Speaker 4>as a reporter, But this will be my last piece

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<v Speaker 4>on the Stop Cop City movement. Every other reporter mini

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<v Speaker 4>series I've done on Stop Cup City was written while

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<v Speaker 4>the movement was still ongoing and the final outcome had

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<v Speaker 4>yet to be fully determined. Something that set the movement

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<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta apart was the genuine belief that this fight

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<v Speaker 4>was actually winnable, as opposed to the many lofty aspirations

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<v Speaker 4>of other anti police, anarchists or leftist struggles. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>that we will win and cop City will never be built.

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<v Speaker 4>Were common turns of phrase and not just repeated mindlessly

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<v Speaker 4>as a protest chant, but deeply believed. But now, six

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<v Speaker 4>months after the grand opening of Cop City, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to use this distance to offer a look at the

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<v Speaker 4>whole movement, based on interviews and conversations I've had with organizers, anarchists,

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<v Speaker 4>and forest defenders. Analyzing the movements rise and fall and momentum,

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<v Speaker 4>and why Atlanta is the bridge between the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>protests during Trump's first term and the current expansion of

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<v Speaker 4>police surveillance, ice activity an increased state repression against quote

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<v Speaker 4>unquote radical left terrorists. We don't have enough time to

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<v Speaker 4>retread a complete, in depth play by play of the

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<v Speaker 4>movement's history, most of which I've already covered in previous episodes,

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<v Speaker 4>but I will attempt to break down the movement into

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<v Speaker 4>a series of discrete phases. After organizers learned about the

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<v Speaker 4>plans to build cop City in April of twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>the movement to Defend the Atlanta Forest first took form

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<v Speaker 4>with an opening attack phase throughout the entire summer of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, with tree spiking and sabotage targeting construction

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<v Speaker 4>equipment on the east side of the forest, which a

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<v Speaker 4>movie studio was planning to develop at the time in

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<v Speaker 4>partnership with local government. To quote from an anonymous Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>anarchist quote, early stages of the movement were very intentionally

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<v Speaker 4>defined by lots of sabotage and unapologetic militancy, just absolute

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<v Speaker 4>this is what we're doing. This is what we're about.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the goal. If you don't like it, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 4>but then don't be a part of this. That was

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<v Speaker 4>just what we were doinguote. In September twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>the Atlantic City Council voted to approve the land Lease

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<v Speaker 4>Ordinance authorizing the Atlanta Police Foundation to use hundreds of

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<v Speaker 4>acres of city owned land in the South River Forest

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<v Speaker 4>to build cop City. After this vote, electoral strategy gets

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<v Speaker 4>largely aeshewed, and soon after the next phase fully kicks

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<v Speaker 4>off that fall with the physical occupation of the forest

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<v Speaker 4>and the start of the pressure campaign's targeting subcontractors working

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<v Speaker 4>on the construction project. To again, quote from an anonymous

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta anarchist quote, persistent encampment, occupation, lots of direct action happening,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of sabotage happening, and the cops just not knowing

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<v Speaker 4>what to do at all. Small incursions would get made,

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<v Speaker 4>but they just had not figured out what to do

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<v Speaker 4>about it yet. There was just kind of like free

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<v Speaker 4>reign unquote. For the first half of this occupation phase,

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<v Speaker 4>the Atlanta Police into cab sheriffs seemed to be stuck

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<v Speaker 4>in a form of paralysis, not knowing how to disrupt

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<v Speaker 4>the forest encampments or prevent equipment sabotage. Meanwhile, the pressure campaign,

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<v Speaker 4>inspired by the tactics of the animal rights group Shack,

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<v Speaker 4>showed early promise in getting some contractors like Reeves A

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<v Speaker 4>Young construction and material suppliers to drop out of the

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<v Speaker 4>cop City project. But after this stream of steady success

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<v Speaker 4>from Fall of twenty twenty one to May of twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two, the police were forced to up the ante

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<v Speaker 4>and started conducting large scale raids in the forest to

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<v Speaker 4>remove force defenders and damage encampment infrastructure. Quoting an Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>anarchist quote, May of twenty twenty two is the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the paralysis phase for the cops. We had our

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<v Speaker 4>first grid sweep raids where the paralysis phase is broken.

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting your multi agency large sweeps where they're really

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<v Speaker 4>coming in and putting in a lot of work. That

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<v Speaker 4>really leads up to January of twenty twenty three where

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<v Speaker 4>Torte got killed. Prior to the police killing of Tortigita

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<v Speaker 4>during a forest encampment raid on January eighteen, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>the occupation phase proved highly effective in preventing pre construction,

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<v Speaker 4>but the killing and Tortighita essentially marked the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the continuous occupation phase. What followed was a period of

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<v Speaker 4>high octane intensity. Let's call this the revenge phase. Quoting

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<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta anarchist. You get this kind of like trading

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<v Speaker 4>blows with the cops repeatedly during that time, and things

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<v Speaker 4>are getting pretty fucking crazy, hitting their highest pitch at

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<v Speaker 4>March fifth quote. During the South River Music Festival on

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<v Speaker 4>March fifth, a few hundred people splintered off from the

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<v Speaker 4>festival and marched to the nearby Cop City construction site.

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<v Speaker 4>The crowd repelled police and construction equipment was set on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>The cops weretleated, quick swarming the area with all available

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<v Speaker 4>units in Atlanta, kettled the festival and eventually arrested twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three people, charging them with domestic terrorism. After the events

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<v Speaker 4>of March fifth, the movement entered an odd limbo phase,

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<v Speaker 4>with heightened tensions among the Stop Cop City coalition on

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<v Speaker 4>the role of direct action and sabotage within mass movement actions.

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<v Speaker 4>During this period, police fortified and regularly patrolled the perimeter

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<v Speaker 4>around the forest. Entry became heavily restricted Following this denial

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<v Speaker 4>of operating space. The forest around the slated construction site

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<v Speaker 4>was preemptively clear cut to both prepare for construction and

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<v Speaker 4>demoralize the movement. But a month later, the bail fund

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<v Speaker 4>and legal defense nonprofit the Atlanta Solidarity Fund, was raided

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<v Speaker 4>by police and were later charged with money laundering and

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<v Speaker 4>charity fraud. Just a few days after the raid, the

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<v Speaker 4>city Council approved a sixty seven million dollar Cop City

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<v Speaker 4>funding package. The next day, organizers announced a referendum campaign

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<v Speaker 4>to gather petition signatures to put the Cops City land

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<v Speaker 4>Lease Ordinance on the upcoming November ballot. Despite setbacks, there

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<v Speaker 4>was still energy going towards stopping Cop City, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was fragmenting in ways that it hadn't really before. There

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<v Speaker 4>was no clear consensus on the direction to take the movement.

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<v Speaker 4>Previous periods of shift in the movement were often marked

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<v Speaker 4>by an organized Week of Action, which was a convergence

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<v Speaker 4>of people from all around the country or even the world,

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<v Speaker 4>who traveled to Atlanta to partake in a week's worth

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<v Speaker 4>of events, actions, and protests against Cop City. The Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>Police Foundation and contractors hired to build the facility the

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<v Speaker 4>summer of twenty twenty three saw the sixth organized Week

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<v Speaker 4>of Action, but it too was caught in this limbo phase,

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<v Speaker 4>and without the forest as an operating zone, the Week

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<v Speaker 4>of Action struggled to find its purpose despite the surge

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<v Speaker 4>in movement participation around the city Hall budget vote earlier

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<v Speaker 4>that June. The next phase was the first to be

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<v Speaker 4>positively determined by the police, the repression phase, which really

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<v Speaker 4>sets in around August of twenty twenty three with the

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<v Speaker 4>Rico indictment charging sixty one people with racketeering, arson, and

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<v Speaker 4>domestic terrorism. State repression then evolved in the form of

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<v Speaker 4>persistent surveillance of activists, house raids, and additional charges, which

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<v Speaker 4>leads to the current trial phase. Quote an Atlanta anarchist quote,

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<v Speaker 4>I think an important aspect of this phase is obviously

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<v Speaker 4>supporting your defendants, preparing for the potential of long term

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<v Speaker 4>prisoner support, and also not letting the state be the

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<v Speaker 4>one to close the book by doing this, because you

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to let them define the narrative of this

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<v Speaker 4>forever by getting to put their rubber stamp on the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the trial and calling it Otherwise, the movement

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<v Speaker 4>gets stuck in this permanent zombie phase where we're still saying,

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<v Speaker 4>stop cop City is this thing that's happening. When it's built,

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<v Speaker 4>it's built, it's right there, right like. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>that we all just go home, but it means that

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<v Speaker 4>you're like a veteran of this battle now and there's

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<v Speaker 4>new shit to do, new stuff to work on. Even

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<v Speaker 4>in retrospect, people have been largely hesitant to assign blame

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<v Speaker 4>to a specific factor in why the fight to stop

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<v Speaker 4>cop City fell short of achieving its stated goal. But

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<v Speaker 4>we can track a decline in momentum which allowed the

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<v Speaker 4>state to gain the upper hand. For nearly three years,

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<v Speaker 4>state repression tactics failed to disrupt the growing momentum against

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<v Speaker 4>the Cop City project. Forest raids, arrests, and criminal charges

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<v Speaker 4>made little impact. The use of terrorism charges as a

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<v Speaker 4>repression tactic started back in December of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 4>following an encampment raid resulting in six people being charged

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<v Speaker 4>with domestic terrorism. This was the first time that charge

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<v Speaker 4>has been used in Georgia, following its adoption in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen in response to the whitepremacist mass shooting by Dylan Roof.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a month after domestic terrorism charges were first deployed.

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<v Speaker 4>Tortighito was killed by police in another forest raid, but

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<v Speaker 4>this tragedy only seemed to strengthen the resolve of the

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<v Speaker 4>movement to fight cop City, which then only grew. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 4>the clear cutting of the force itself wasn't enough to

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<v Speaker 4>demoralize the people in Atlanta. Rather, the hesitation to build

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<v Speaker 4>on the momentum of a widely publicized direct action like

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<v Speaker 4>March fifth provided this state in opening while the movement

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<v Speaker 4>was stuck in limbo. Throughout this limbo phase, the movement

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<v Speaker 4>was adjusting from intensified momentum and the high octane aspects

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<v Speaker 4>leading to March fifth. But as the energy tapered down,

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<v Speaker 4>the state jumped on that dip in momentum, then delta

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<v Speaker 4>pretty significant blow with the Rico indictment. The Rico charges

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<v Speaker 4>in August of twenty twenty three, followed by the series

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<v Speaker 4>of house raids in February of twenty twenty four, were

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty crippling one to punch that stifled the momentum

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<v Speaker 4>to our almost a complete standstill. Quoting an Atlanta anarchist,

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people will argue their opinions about what

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<v Speaker 4>was the stifling thing. I think some of the more

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<v Speaker 4>electorally or mass movement. Big tent minded people would argue that,

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<v Speaker 4>like March fifth, takes a lot of the wind out

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<v Speaker 4>of the sails. I think a lot of people would

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<v Speaker 4>disagree with that, just because like you can build on

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<v Speaker 4>the momentum of a March fifth, you can build on

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<v Speaker 4>like a triumphant battlefield victory, it's a lot harder to

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<v Speaker 4>build on just everyone getting more charges and also people

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<v Speaker 4>getting their doors kicked in really early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to build on that. Despite the Rico charges,

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<v Speaker 4>acts of sabotage did continue, but isolated sabotage alone wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>enough to propel the movement. After the referendum campaign was

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<v Speaker 4>effectively nullified by the state and fall of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a lack of willingness among its organizers to

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<v Speaker 4>engage in serious efforts to get people engaged in mass

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<v Speaker 4>actions or pressure campaigns targeted against elected officials. Something multiple

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<v Speaker 4>activists in Atlanta have mentioned to me as a contributing

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<v Speaker 4>factor to the eventual decline in momentum during this limbo

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<v Speaker 4>stage is a sort of failure to prefigure alternative strategies

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<v Speaker 4>and adapt After the forest occupation became impossible to maintain,

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<v Speaker 4>especially considering just how much weight people had put into

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<v Speaker 4>that strategy but then did not come up with a

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<v Speaker 4>clear next step after the police were able to suppress

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<v Speaker 4>that tactic by completing their ODA loops and improving their

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<v Speaker 4>own strategies. The ODA loop is a four step military

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<v Speaker 4>decision making model used across a large variety of professional fields,

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<v Speaker 4>including policing. Step one, observe, gather as much information as possible,

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<v Speaker 4>then orient, synthesize and information with background knowledge, decide on

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<v Speaker 4>the next course of action using that newly synthesized information,

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<v Speaker 4>and finally act and the results of your actions should

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<v Speaker 4>then send you back to step one. Failure to act

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<v Speaker 4>at all or too slowly often ends in defeat. To

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<v Speaker 4>quote an anonymous Atlanta anarchist quote, you need contingency lines right,

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<v Speaker 4>either things that you're willing to escalate in the current

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<v Speaker 4>line of strategy that you're doing to make it still viable,

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<v Speaker 4>or a complete change in strategy it can be changed

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<v Speaker 4>in tactics to something new and exciting. Either of those

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<v Speaker 4>are valid options. Doing both of them in the same

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<v Speaker 4>time can be extremely effective, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, you have to when the cops start to

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<v Speaker 4>break out of paralysis. An example from any eco defense

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<v Speaker 4>or occupation, whether in Atlanta or somewhere else, when the

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<v Speaker 4>cops start to break out of that paralysis, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to escalate in some way. The occupation, the defense of it,

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<v Speaker 4>has to escalate in some way to prevent them from

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<v Speaker 4>feeling safe coming in or trying to, or the physical

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<v Speaker 4>space of action to change, because now they need to

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<v Speaker 4>recalibrate to oh, shit, like, not only is the occupation

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<v Speaker 4>less assailable than we thought because there's been a change

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<v Speaker 4>in tactics, but there's also a massive uptick and shit

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<v Speaker 4>going on everywhere else, and that significantly impedes their ability

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<v Speaker 4>to have an ODA loop to do battle with. You

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<v Speaker 4>can even look at the ice pickups that got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of attention in Worcester, Massachusetts. They were not expecting

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<v Speaker 4>that many people just to show up. You can see

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<v Speaker 4>when the crowd starts to hit like a critical mass

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<v Speaker 4>of rage and getting really close to those guys that

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<v Speaker 4>they fucking panic. They freak out, like it's very clear

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<v Speaker 4>even just in the small amount of their faces and

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<v Speaker 4>their movements that you can see that they were panicking.

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<v Speaker 4>Similar scenes have since taken place in Chicago and Portland.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've seen this before with Bortac during the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty protests in Portland. I think anyone who has watched

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<v Speaker 4>the Cops for Treat has seen this before. But the

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<v Speaker 4>more the same thing happens, the more you get used

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<v Speaker 4>to it, the more you experiment and find ways to

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<v Speaker 4>adapt and overcome. Quoting an Atlanta anarchist quote, cops panic

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<v Speaker 4>and you can see it in the way they walk

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<v Speaker 4>like they weren't ready for that, and next time they

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<v Speaker 4>might be, which means you have to add something new,

0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.760
<v Speaker 4>a new spice has to get thrown in a new

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<v Speaker 4>flavor profile. They'll get used to pushing through crowds like

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<v Speaker 4>that until someone hits them at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>and whether you're like confronting them on the ground or

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get to the neighborhoods ahead of time to

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<v Speaker 4>knock people's doors to get them out, Eventually cops will

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<v Speaker 4>start to find ways to counteract your strategy, and eventually

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<v Speaker 4>you will have to reshift and recalibrate the tools you

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<v Speaker 4>are using to orient back to Atlanta, All these instances

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<v Speaker 4>I've mentioned amount to failing to take advantage of key moments,

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<v Speaker 4>whether that be in the aftermath of March fifth, the

0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.040
<v Speaker 4>seeming impossibility of continue nude forest encampments or of the

0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 4>city's blanket refusal to accept the results of the referendum.

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<v Speaker 4>In these moments, the police and the state were able

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<v Speaker 4>to determine where battle lines were drawn, and quite literally

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<v Speaker 4>so during the quote unquote block Cop City protest in

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<v Speaker 4>October of twenty twenty three, where police easily repelled a

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.600
<v Speaker 4>protest march from even reaching the road to the Cop

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.200
<v Speaker 4>City construction site, and the state continued to push their

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<v Speaker 4>lines forward with the joint fbiatf raids on activist houses

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<v Speaker 4>in February twenty twenty four, which further stifled the movement

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.520
<v Speaker 4>and was coupled with months to years long persistent surveillance

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.320
<v Speaker 4>and intimidation denoted by cops parked outside of homes of

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<v Speaker 4>alleged activists, mobile surveillance, and hidden cameras placed in front

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<v Speaker 4>of activists homes and a local community center. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the more frightening incidents came in May of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 4>where a resident of one of the homes raided that

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<v Speaker 4>February woke up in the middle night to a bright

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<v Speaker 4>light outside the bedroom window only to find a lit

0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:10.080
<v Speaker 4>road flare catching the wooden railing of their porch steps

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<v Speaker 4>on fire. One of the things I've been reflecting on

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<v Speaker 4>regarding cop City is the way people talked about fear

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<v Speaker 4>as a tool. Frank Herbert's litany against fear was a

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<v Speaker 4>common refrain to overcome the fear that this state used

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<v Speaker 4>as a weapon. But the first time I heard fear

0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.399
<v Speaker 4>mentioned as an offensive measure wasn't in reference to this

0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.200
<v Speaker 4>state using fear. It was in early twenty twenty two

0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.680
<v Speaker 4>when I first visited the forest encampment, and the anarchists

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.640
<v Speaker 4>talked about how the police were scared of entering the forest,

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<v Speaker 4>how delusions of Vietnam's style booby traps demonstrated that the

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<v Speaker 4>cups are not impervious super soldiers. Instilling fear is a

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<v Speaker 4>major aspect of police training. They are susceptible to emotional impulses,

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<v Speaker 4>like all of us. Quoting an Atlanta anarchist quote. But

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<v Speaker 4>while we understand our own fear, I think people often

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<v Speaker 4>fall into the trap of not understanding that the state

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<v Speaker 4>is also afraid of them. Because the state feels like

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<v Speaker 4>this monolithic machine, like this unassailable entity, that it is

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<v Speaker 4>not It's made up of people with flaws and emotions

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<v Speaker 4>who have the same corrozol response to being threatened that

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<v Speaker 4>you or I do. A big part of the lessons

0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 4>learned from Atlanta has to be of willingness to engage

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 4>with them in a way that is personally endangering. That

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<v Speaker 4>is the single way out. They're human and they get scared.

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.679
<v Speaker 4>The fear that I think had them so tight until

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<v Speaker 4>May of twenty twenty two was a fear that manifested

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<v Speaker 4>itself in a lot of paralysis. Fear is of normal

0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 4>human emotion to danger. So whether you're the most hardened

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 4>swat team guy going up against the craziest eco freak

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 4>in the world, fear is a normal reaction to that.

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<v Speaker 4>But what really had them so tight was fear as

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of them being paralyzed by it that they

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<v Speaker 4>couldnot find out how to move. And once they did

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<v Speaker 4>find out around May of twenty twenty two, we really

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<v Speaker 4>start to see things change and like they were scared

0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 4>enough in the woods to shoot someone to death, like

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.000
<v Speaker 4>they were still afraid, we were able to instill an

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<v Speaker 4>immense amount of fear in our enemy, which is an

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely necessary tool if you're going to be on the

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<v Speaker 4>very nimble, small green team insurgency side of things. You

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.320
<v Speaker 4>have to make your enemy afraid of the dark, but

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<v Speaker 4>also you have your defensive strategy against fear. You would

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 4>hear all the time in Atlanta, the whole let the

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 4>fear wash over you and through you mantra. That was

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 4>a thing that people talked about and said constantly, because

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<v Speaker 4>you have to find a way to move through that paralysis. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 4>and with the help of a multi agency task force,

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 4>the cops in Atlanta were able to move through that

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 4>fear and continue their actions. They were not totally paralyzed

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<v Speaker 4>by it. In contrast, the pseudo paralysis affecting Stop Cop

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<v Speaker 4>City only set in very late into the movement as

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<v Speaker 4>a culative result of a coordinated sequence of oppression tactics.

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<v Speaker 4>As the movement has been winding down and transitioning to

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<v Speaker 4>court support, something people in Atlanta have had to balance

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.480
<v Speaker 4>is the urge to keep Stop Cop City in this

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<v Speaker 4>sort of unalive zombie state where you're still kind of

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<v Speaker 4>acting like it's an ongoing thing, even though the immediate

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 4>local result is pretty clearly finished. But in keeping this

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of zombie version of the movement alive, it prevents

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<v Speaker 4>you from actually moving on and internalizing what happened here

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 4>and using that for whatever comes next, which is at

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<v Speaker 4>this point a burgeoning police state and right wing power block.

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 4>Quoting an anonymous Atlanta anarchist quote, internalizing not just in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of like lessons learned and things that you need

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<v Speaker 4>to learn from and skill up on to keep that

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<v Speaker 4>honed combative edge in Atlanta, but to think about fighting

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<v Speaker 4>on a larger scope than just Atlanta. As the cops

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<v Speaker 4>took their lessons learned here nationwide in terms of how

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<v Speaker 4>they're doing repression towards Palestinian liberation movements towards a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the way that ICE operations are currently happening. That

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<v Speaker 4>necessitates that we also take our lessons learned here and

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<v Speaker 4>also go to a larger scale with them. Also, if

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<v Speaker 4>you never close the book yourself on this battle that

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<v Speaker 4>you're a part of, which people incurred a massive amount

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 4>of trauma doing at a certain point, this could just

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<v Speaker 4>remain like an open wound on you forever if you

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 4>let it. And it is probably unhelpful to keep seeing

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.360
<v Speaker 4>the movement to stop cop City is doing a rally here.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when it's built, it's there, and now we need

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<v Speaker 4>to move on to other things. We need to move

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<v Speaker 4>on to other things that are larger than Atlanta. There's

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<v Speaker 4>still a police state to engage with here. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>need the container of this struggle to justify going out

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 4>and taking action against the police. And there are other

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 4>things happening in Atlanta. There's vice rates happening in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>in the north suburbs of the city. Cop City is

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<v Speaker 4>actively being enacted, and if people want to continue stopping it,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 4>they'll have to actually stop what the effects are which

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 4>are now happening on a nationwide scale. An early irony

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 4>of the movement was that though cop City was conceived

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<v Speaker 4>as a training ground for police first, it became a

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 4>training ground for anarchists. As top Cup City became the

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<v Speaker 4>first mass movement following the twenty twenty George Floyd protests,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever happened in Atlanta would demonstrate what activists have learned

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 4>from the twenty twenty uprising, as well as influence what

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 4>future movements against police expansion might look like. Atlanta Police

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Chief Darren Shecherbaum expressed as much during the Public Safety

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<v Speaker 4>Training Center grand opening.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when Antifa put out its call for individuals to

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 3>rally here in this spot and on Peachtree Street, from

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<v Speaker 3>across the nation and literally the globe. We were up

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<v Speaker 3>against a playbook we had never seen at the Atlanta

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Police Department, and we ourselves put out the call for help,

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 3>and no sheriff said no, No police chief said no.

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<v Speaker 3>The Georgia State Patrol, the Department Natural Resources should ste

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<v Speaker 3>by side of this department, as did the FBI and

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<v Speaker 3>the ATF, because we all knew that that playbook was

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<v Speaker 3>successful here in Atlanta, Georgia, it would find itself across

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 3>this country and public safety be stymied wherever we go.

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<v Speaker 4>While Atlanta served as this training ground for anarchists, in response,

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 4>the state also used the movement to test out strategies

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 4>for the next generation of counterinsurgency tactics, well before the

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 4>cop City facility was finished being built. Now, with this

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 4>specific localized struggle at completion, both organizers and the state

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 4>are carrying lessons forward as Trump expands police power, deploys

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 4>National Guard, increases ICE operations, and continues repression against organizers

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 4>protesting the Palestinian genocide. To quote an Atlanta anarchist quote,

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 4>I think as a matter of reimagining the struggle that

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 4>you're a part of insurrectionary struggle is often an imaginative one.

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 4>And if you were part of this thing here, you

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 4>are now like a veteran of the fight in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>This thing, like this specific thing that was defend the

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta Forest. Top cop City is something to be learned

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<v Speaker 4>from and valued and also moved on from and to

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<v Speaker 4>move on from while taking lessons learned, experience gained, and

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 4>connections made, and following those things through to their logical conclusion.

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Such that the state has as well. They have taken

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>lessons learned from here and followed them through to their

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 4>nationwide logical conclusions. We are necessitated to do that as well.

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't mean you have given up. It just means

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<v Speaker 4>that there's new shit happening. It's helpful to re imagine

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 4>yourself not as just we're in Atlanta, we're doing stop

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 4>Coop City, to now you are engaged in a nationwide

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 4>anti fascist struggle against like a fascist police state. This

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 4>nationwide focus has always been an aspect of Stop Cop City.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 4>One of the movements key slogans was cop City is Everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Organizers did speaking tours around the country to educate about

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<v Speaker 4>the movement and thousands of people from all around the

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 4>country and the world traveled to Atlanta to participate in

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 4>weeks of action. The physical fight top Cop City also

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 4>expanded outside of Atlanta with solidarity attacks and direct actions

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 4>as a part of the tertiary targeting campaign against subcontractors

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 4>and insurance companies. This nationwide drift also happened on the

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 4>side of the state, with similar police training facilities having

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 4>been proposed in dozens of other cities, and the strategies

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 4>of repression used in Atlanta have been copied on a

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 4>national level. Quoting an Atlanta anarchist quote, now the cops

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 4>are spreading out, and their strategies and the strategies of repression,

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 4>both militantly on the ground and legally, and even their

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 4>propaganda and their messaging has gone outwards from here. And

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 4>so too, then must our lessons learned both in how

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 4>we prepare and engage in struggle in Atlanta, but also

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 4>how we make connections to the rest of the country.

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 4>People who came here are now back home and will

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 4>make connections to the people around them. The cops in

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 4>different cities, they have big conferences. They talk to each other,

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 4>they learn from each other. There's no reason that we

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be, you know, doing so with caution and security culture.

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Don't have your Atlanta veteran hat on. But we have

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 4>things to learn from each other, and if you were here,

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 4>you've got a lot to potentially teach people. Even if

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 4>that was just like, here's how we fucking run a

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 4>kitchen where we cook for like four hundred people in

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 4>a day, or here's how we sneak around in the

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 4>middle of the night. This is a representative of the

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<v Speaker 4>Fire and Movement Defense at a cop City trial press

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 4>conference from September twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 5>The horrors we predicted have come to pass. Federal agents

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<v Speaker 5>now stock communities from coast to coast, masked and unnamed,

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<v Speaker 5>snatching people from buses, farms, kitchens, and churches. Who can

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<v Speaker 5>argue now that we were wrong to resist the endless

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<v Speaker 5>expansion of police power, now that Trump commands them, now

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<v Speaker 5>that they are his police. The very people who helped

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<v Speaker 5>lay the groundwork now scramble to distance themselves from his orders,

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<v Speaker 5>his camps, his federal troop deployments. But they built the logistics,

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 5>they funded the training centers, they expanded the surveillance. Liberal

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<v Speaker 5>governments like Atlantis helped pave the way for the descent

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<v Speaker 5>of our country into autocracy.

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<v Speaker 4>As Marlincrats of the Atlanta Solidarity Fund told The New Republic, quote,

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening in Atlanta is a vision of the future.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a test run of a repressive playbook that

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<v Speaker 4>authorities on many different levels are experimenting with to discover

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<v Speaker 4>what they can get away with. Let's look at some

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<v Speaker 4>examples of expanding surveillance, increasing police resources, and these strategies

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<v Speaker 4>for counter insertaency that are spreading in the era of

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<v Speaker 4>Trump two point zero. In January of this year, Georgia

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<v Speaker 4>Representative Marjorie Taylor Green introduced a resolution titled deeming certain

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<v Speaker 4>conduct of members of Antifa as domestic terrorism and designating

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<v Speaker 4>Antifa as domestic terrorist Organization, which the measure justifies by

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<v Speaker 4>referencing multiple instances of protesters in Atlanta being charged with

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<v Speaker 4>domestic terrorism. The Atlanta based surveillance company Flock Safety, gained

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<v Speaker 4>early notoriety for their camera towers placed around the slated

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Copcity construction site in the South River Forest, which protesters

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<v Speaker 4>repeatedly toppled. Flock has grown massively the past four years,

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<v Speaker 4>with over eighty thousand quote unquote AI powered cameras in

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine states. These cameras complete over twenty billion scans

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 4>per month. Flock cameras and license plate readers have spread

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<v Speaker 4>all around the country and are used by all manners

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<v Speaker 4>of agencies, including ICE, as well as Texas sheriffs, who

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<v Speaker 4>have used the nationwide camera network to track pregnant women

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<v Speaker 4>seeking abortions. Border Patrol has used Atlanta's local flock camera

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<v Speaker 4>network to make over three thousand and two hundred searches

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<v Speaker 4>from January to November twenty twenty five. In April twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five, President Trump signed an executive order titled Strengthening

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<v Speaker 4>and Unleashing America's Law Enforcement to pursue criminals and protect

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 4>innocent citizens. This order calls to quote unleash high impact

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 4>local police forces, protect and defend law enforcement officers wrongly

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 4>accused and abused by state or local officials, and surge

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<v Speaker 4>resources to officers in needuote. It directs the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 4>to create a mechanism to have private sector law firms

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<v Speaker 4>provide pro bono legal events to police officers who quote

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<v Speaker 4>unjustly incur expenses and liabilities for actions taken during the

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 4>performance of their official duties to enforce the law. This

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<v Speaker 4>tries to make it harder for a police to be

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<v Speaker 4>held accountable for both civil and criminal misconduct, basically extending

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<v Speaker 4>qualified a mus to the criminal realm. The order also

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<v Speaker 4>calls to use federal resources to increase pay, expand training,

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<v Speaker 4>and strengthen legal protections for police officers, as well as

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<v Speaker 4>to quote seek enhanced sentences for crimes against law enforcement officers,

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<v Speaker 4>promote investment in the security in capacity of prisons, and

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 4>increase the investment in and collection, distribution and uniformity of

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<v Speaker 4>crime data across jurisdictions. The Attorney General is directed to

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<v Speaker 4>review and remove any previous accountability restrictions placed on local

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<v Speaker 4>or state law enforcement agencies that might unduly impede the

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<v Speaker 4>performance of law enforcement functions. And then finally, quote, the

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<v Speaker 4>Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with

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<v Speaker 4>Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies as appropriate,

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<v Speaker 4>shall increase the provision of excess military and national security

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<v Speaker 4>assets in local jurisdictions to assist state and local law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 4>And shall determine how military and national security assets, training,

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<v Speaker 4>non lethal capabilities, and personnel can most effectively be utilized.

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<v Speaker 4>To prevent crime. As the police become further militarized, the

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 4>military prepares to do more policing. One of the executive

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 4>orders from Trump's police takeover of Washington d C contains

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<v Speaker 4>a section directing the Secretary of Defense to quote designate

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<v Speaker 4>an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members

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<v Speaker 4>to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization to assist federal, state,

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<v Speaker 4>and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances, and that quote,

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<v Speaker 4>a standing National Guard Quick Reaction Force shall be resourced, trained,

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<v Speaker 4>and available for rapid nationwide deployment. Later in October of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five, the Department of Defense sent out memos

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<v Speaker 4>to each state's National Guard mandating that each state have

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<v Speaker 4>their own Quick Reaction forces operational by January first, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty six, with crowd control equipment and two full time

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<v Speaker 4>trainers by the National Guard Bureau being provided to each unit.

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<v Speaker 4>The units contain, on average, five hundred troops per state,

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<v Speaker 4>ordered to be ready to deploy within eight to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four hours. The initial portion of the Bureau training courses

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<v Speaker 4>cover how to quote form squad sized riot control formations

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 4>employ a riot baton as member of a riot control

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 4>formation how to supervise a riot, slash, crowd control operation,

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 4>crowd management techniques, and domestic civil disturbance training. On September

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 4>twenty second, Trump signed an executive order designating Antifa as

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<v Speaker 4>a domestic terrorist organization. Three days later, Trump signed the

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<v Speaker 4>National Security Presidential Memorandum seven on Countering Domestic Terrorism and

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<v Speaker 4>Organized Political Violence, which calls for a new national la

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<v Speaker 4>enforcement strategy to quote investigate all participants of these criminal

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 4>and terroristic conspiracies and disrupt networks, entities and organizations that

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<v Speaker 4>foment political violence so that law enforcement can intervene in

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<v Speaker 4>criminal conspiracies before they result in violent political acts unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>The memo orders local joint terrorism task forces to quote

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<v Speaker 4>investigate potential federal crimes relating to acts of recruiting or

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 4>radicalizing persons for the purpose of political violence, terrorism, or

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy against rights, as well as investigating institutional and individual funders,

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<v Speaker 4>including employees of organizations which are quote responsible for, sponsor

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 4>or otherwise aid in a bet the principal actors engaging

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<v Speaker 4>in the criminal conduct unquote. As previously described, the Treasury

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<v Speaker 4>Secretary will work with Thetorney General to quote identify and

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<v Speaker 4>disrupt financial networks that fund domestic terrorism and political violence,

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<v Speaker 4>and shall deploy investigative tools to examine financial flows and

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 4>coordinate with partner agencies to trace illicit funding streams. The

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 4>memo also instructs the IRS to quote take action to

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<v Speaker 4>ensure that no tax exempt entities are directly or indirectly

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<v Speaker 4>financing political violence or domestic terrorism unquote, and that the

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<v Speaker 4>IRS shall refer organizations and their employees to the Department

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<v Speaker 4>of Justice for investigation and possible prosecution, quoting the memo

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<v Speaker 4>one final time, quote, Investigations shall prioritize crimes such as

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<v Speaker 4>the following assaulting federal officers or employees, conspiracy against rights,

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy to commit offense, solicitation to commit a crime of violence,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 4>money laundering, funding of terrorist acts, or otherwise facilitating terrorism, arson,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 4>violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act RICO,

0:36:55.120 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 4>and major fraud against the United States unquote. At Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>White House ANTIFO roundtable meeting, Seamus Bruner, the director of

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<v Speaker 4>research at the Government Accountability Institute, discussed his theory of

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<v Speaker 4>how a network of NGOs are funding ANTIFA, and specifically

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 6>There was an event in Atlanta called stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 6>Over sixty rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. These groups

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<v Speaker 6>received money for that from both the billionaire class as

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<v Speaker 6>well as taxpayer money.

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<v Speaker 4>So On May one, twenty twenty five, Homeland Security Investigations,

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<v Speaker 4>Secret Service and the acting ICE Director rated a home

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<v Speaker 4>in Irving, California, looking for a man who allegedly posted

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<v Speaker 4>flyers around Los Angeles containing the names, pictures, and phone

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<v Speaker 4>numbers of ICE agents, with text in Spanish reading careful

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<v Speaker 4>with these faces. In April of twenty twenty three, three

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<v Speaker 4>activists were arrested for allegedly posting flyers identifying a police

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<v Speaker 4>officer nected to the killing of Tortigita on the mailboxes

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<v Speaker 4>in that officer's neighborhood in Barlow County, Georgia, about forty

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<v Speaker 4>miles from Atlanta. The activists were charged with felony intimidation

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<v Speaker 4>and were later added to the Cop City Weako case.

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<v Speaker 4>To circle back to the topic of fear, the targeting

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<v Speaker 4>of people putting up flyers simply identifying cops or anonymous

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<v Speaker 4>ICE agents demonstrates how the state understands fear as a weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they did the reco charges. That's why they

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<v Speaker 4>do the house raids. That's why they do overt surveillance

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 4>where you're getting followed around by police. But they are

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 4>susceptible to fear as well. Through their actions, ICE demonstrates

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<v Speaker 4>a high level of fear. They are taking massive steps

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<v Speaker 4>to hide the identities of ICE agents on the ground

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<v Speaker 4>and punishing people who attempt to identify these agents. They're

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<v Speaker 4>complaining about being compared to Nazis and called the Gestapo.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 4>They're referencing very dubious statistics about an increase in assaults

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<v Speaker 4>against officers, and they are afraid enough to shoot their

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<v Speaker 4>guns at unarmed people more than half a dozen times

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<v Speaker 4>in the past six months. They are scared, and as

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<v Speaker 4>evil and super soldiery as they may seem, they are

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 4>indeed afraid. To quote an anonymous Atlanta anarchist quote, unless

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 4>you do something to keep them afraid, eventually it will stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless you change your strategy, change course, escalate in some

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<v Speaker 4>way that shatters their ODA loop, they will break free

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 4>of their paralysis and they will find a way through

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 4>their fear. So when that starts to happen, it's time

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 4>to do something new and insane, because you have to

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 4>keep them afraid, because, like by every moral right they

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 4>should be. They should be fucking terrified to leave their homes.

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<v Speaker 4>And if they are too a f to leave their homes,

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<v Speaker 4>then they can't go out and do their jobs at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day. That's their odor loop right there.

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<v Speaker 4>The scale of fear as a tool of repression is

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>always exponentially larger than this scale of physical or legal repression.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 4>It punches well above its weight. You can look at

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta as a good example of this, and you can

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<v Speaker 4>even look at some of the arrests made in response

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<v Speaker 4>to Palestinian liberation protests. It takes black bagging six people

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 4>to paralyze six thousand because it's terrifying, because it's scary,

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 4>like it's fucked up, that's a bad thing to have

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 4>happened to you, and like, of course, people are afraid.

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Fear is one of those things that if you're engaging

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<v Speaker 4>an anti fascist struggle, whether you're an anti fascist, whether

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 4>you're an anarchist or whatever, all of us have an

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 4>ethical obligation to ourselves and the people around us to

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<v Speaker 4>push through fear as an emotion, to find ways to

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 4>work with it, because it won't go away, and it shouldn't.

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 4>Fear can also keep you safe. But we are necessitated

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<v Speaker 4>by the political moment we are in to find a

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<v Speaker 4>way to take extensive action in spite of that unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty was a lot of people's first experience with

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<v Speaker 4>mass protest, and some of this people then carry those

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<v Speaker 4>experiences into Copcity. But then for other people, Stop cop

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 4>City was their first experience. And now you have an

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<v Speaker 4>even younger generation of people, the Gen Alpha terrorists, who

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 4>aren't even old enough to have been involved in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>But people are still looking at what happened in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>as this bridge gap between twenty twenty and twenty twenty five,

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 4>the movement to Stop Cop City as the bridge between

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<v Speaker 4>these two different eras of uprising and resistance against authoritarianism.

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<v Speaker 4>As the Copcity chapter closes, activists in Atlanta want people

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 4>to carry on what's been learned in the contents of

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 4>their struggle onto whatever the next volume is. Because Cop

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 4>City itself is in a sequence of events that have

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<v Speaker 4>happened beyond and longer than what me or anyone involved

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 4>in Cop City has been alive by generations. Cop City

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 4>is not Volume one. Cop City is volume like thirty two,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the same time it's also the immediate prequel

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<v Speaker 4>to the rise of a nationwide expansion of police power

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 4>and surveillance led by a wanna be right wing strong man.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Quoting an Atlanta anarchist quote, a big lesson learned from

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.479
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta is that it is way safer to do shit

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the night than anything else. We've

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<v Speaker 4>had exactly one arrest made over the years, an arrest

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 4>that's not gone to trial. This is an alleged crime

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 4>of one midnight sabotage action. Of the dozens and dozens

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 4>and dozens of ursins that have happened, and this arrest

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 4>happened very late into the movement. Out of the dozens

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 4>and dozens of attacks that have happened, only one arrest

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 4>has been made after the fact. Another lesson learned is

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 4>the difficulty of day counter surveillance and how much that

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 4>requires militancy as a daily practice to again quote from

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 4>an anonymous anarchist in Atlanta quote, militant anarchism as a

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<v Speaker 4>daily practice understanding your adversary, not just as this thing

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 4>that you meet on the field for twenty minutes of

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 4>action and then you both go home and like call it,

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 4>but that they are constantly pursuing you that you are

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 4>being like hunted for sport, and you have to evade

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and maneuver constantly. That security culture is a persistent thing

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 4>throughout the years, that you are going to continually keep

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 4>having to be a part of it and do so

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 4>in a very disciplined way. Unquote. A lot of the

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 4>success that stopcop City achieved was based on a willingness

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 4>to take an extremely militant approach to prefigurative infrastructure, which

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 4>added longevity to the combative struggle. Both were necessitated as

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.919
<v Speaker 4>symbiotic elements of this same curt feature. Throughout the Cop

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 4>City struggle, organizers and activists learned that if you're not

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 4>always able to engage in a directly combative fight, using

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<v Speaker 4>militancy and discipline in their infrastructural projects the same way

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 4>they would in a combative engagement, helps prepare for what

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 4>will be necessary when things do turn combative. Quoting an

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta anarchist quote, the state is this constantly churning machine,

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 4>like it is always trying to acquire new tools and

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 4>equipment and lessons, and we can't just sit still while

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 4>they do this and be like, okay, Well, at some

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 4>point in four to five years, a flashpoint will happen

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:37.839
<v Speaker 4>at the place that I live, and I'll go out

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 4>there and I'll be like I was in Atlanta, So

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I'll be good because I remember how to do all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Because if you do nothing for the next four to

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 4>five years, we're just going to be reinventing the wheel

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 4>over and over again, and all the like fucked up

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 4>trauma that you incurred doing that won't have been helpful

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 4>at all if you don't remember the skills learned on

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 4>the ground, because all skills atrophy and get weaker over time.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking back at Stop Coop City won't provide all the

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 4>answers to solve the problems facing the country today, especially

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 4>in light of the end result of the movement, But

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.720
<v Speaker 4>it would be a mistake to overlook the ways Stop

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 4>Coop City made a legitimate impact on the resulting facility

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<v Speaker 4>and the political situation in Atlanta and beyond. I think

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 4>there's ways of looking at degrees of success the movement

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<v Speaker 4>had while still recognizing its obvious shortcomings, considering the fact

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 4>that there is a facility called the Atlanta Public Safety

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Training Center, but a small group of activists turned a

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 4>proposed police training facility into a national political issue. Its

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 4>opening was delayed by years at at least thirty million

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 4>dollars over budget, and the current facility lacks the full

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 4>mock city design that it initially had, which inspired the

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Cop City namesake. Moving forward, both these successes and shortcomings

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 4>will be internalized by thousands of people who traveled to

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 4>or lived in Atlanta and joined in the movement to

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 4>stop Cop City. As Trump now signs executive orders expanding

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 4>military equipment, federal training, and legal protections for police, deploys

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 4>the National Guard to quell civil disturbance, and targets anti fascists, anarchists,

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 4>and left wing activists or ENGOs as domestic terrorists. Quoting

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 4>an Atlanta anarchist quote, what we are seeing is the

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 4>logical conclusion of our adversaries lessons learned in Atlanta, taking

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 4>the things that they learned how to do here, the

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 4>skills they honed, taken to a nationwide scale. This is

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 4>the logical conclusion of that. And there's a reason that

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.400
<v Speaker 4>they are doing that. And if they are doing that,

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 4>then we should also do that. Like there's logical conclusions

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and escalations of the things that we learned in Atlanta,

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.280
<v Speaker 4>that it would be silly for us to not try

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:04.320
<v Speaker 4>and push the further, including expanding the physical and metaphysical

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 4>terrain of battle. The immediate terrain for stop Copcity was

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 4>obviously the forest and now the cop City site itself,

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 4>but there was also the rest of Atlanta and all

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the other construction sites, and then all these subcontractors around

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 4>the country and everything that supplies them. This same model

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 4>can apply to, say, the Palestine protests. There's a network

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 4>that exists beyond Columbia University campus that extends into the

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 4>weapons manufacturing industry, which could be targeted beyond consumer boycotts,

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 4>like what we saw was shack But what we saw

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 4>in Atlanta, where boycotts were an aspect, but by far

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 4>not the most effective aspect and in fact forcefully inflicting

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 4>monetary damage, caused a much greater degree of hurt to

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 4>the companies involved in the Copsity project as opposed to

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 4>the infighting caused by a walluse boycott. When reframing what

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 4>the terrain of battle could entail, it is actually intimidating

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 4>to think about what the reality of stopping these things

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.399
<v Speaker 4>might look like. And as soon as you realize that

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 4>these fights go beyond a physical building. It becomes this

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 4>love crafty and entity that exists everywhere, and it's unnerving

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 4>to contemplate what you'd be forced to do to actually

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 4>realistically confront that. Quoting an anonymous Atlanta anarchist quote, it's

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 4>important to not get trapped in the you know, we're

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.320
<v Speaker 4>doing an occupation on college campus. We're just going to

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 4>keep trying to do an occupation on college campus over

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.839
<v Speaker 4>and over again, and the cops really good at clearing

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 4>us up. But now maybe this time. And I think

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 4>a part of the struggle here though, for people is

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 4>when you decentralize like that, the thing that you're doing

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 4>starts to take on a much different vibe. It can

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 4>be everywhere versus this is the college campus where we're

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 4>doing protest. I generally think at the end of the day,

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 4>it starts to feel a little bit too much like terrorismy,

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 4>it starts to feel too much like an insurgency, and

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.479
<v Speaker 4>you see the path, you see the Pandora's box start

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 4>to open up a little bit, and you back off

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 4>because it's scary and that this thing will kill you.

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 4>This thing will try and kill you eventually, if you

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 4>push it far enough, it will try and kill you.

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 4>And I might succeed, And like, that's just the reality

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 4>of engaging with fascism combatively as an ideology, it's the

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 4>reality of engaging with advanced capitalism. That was the reality

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 4>of engaging with the police state, one that is well

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 4>understood in Atlanta and in many other places that this

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 4>isn't a game. You're not gonna get anywhere, just kind

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 4>of sitting on the same college campus green over and

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 4>over again, hoping for a different result. And as we've

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 4>seen this year with the State Department cracking down on

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 4>pro Palestine protests, just sitting there on the college green

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 4>doesn't prevent you from being black bagged by the FEDS,

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 4>taken to a black site, and deported. To close the episode,

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 4>in September twenty twenty four, the Georgia Attorney General's Office

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 4>dropped the money laundering charges against the organizers with the

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Atlanta Solidarity Fund, though the defendants still remained on the

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 4>Rico indictment. Almost a full year later, on September ninth,

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five, the defense successfully argued that the State

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 4>AG's office did not have the jurisdictional authority to prosecute

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 4>the sixty one defendants under the State's Rico Statute due

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 4>to simple procedural error in neglecting to first ask the

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 4>governor if the AG's office could prosecute this case. Judge

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<v Speaker 4>Farmer found that the AG does not have the authority

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 4>to prosecute count one of the Rico indictment, the racketeering

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 4>and conspiracy charges. Without the sweeping Rico charges engulfing this

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 4>sixty one defendants, just five defendants would be left with

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Count two of the indictment, the domestic terrorism charges, which

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 4>the AG does have authority to prosecute, and Count three,

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 4>the arson charge, though Judge Farmer indicated that that charge

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 4>could also be thrown out on a similar technicality. The

0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 4>prosecution is appealing this decision, and the defense has argued

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 4>that the state domestic terrorism law violates a constitution and

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 4>is far too broad and should be altered or overturned.

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Judge Farmer has yet to rule on this, but he's

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 4>expected to very soon. Some of these sixty one defendants

0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:42.120
<v Speaker 4>could face charges individually in Fulton, Indicab County, but that

0:51:42.160 --> 0:51:46.280
<v Speaker 4>remains to be seen. The referendum case is still under

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 4>appeal in federal court, and the case against Jack Mazurich

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 4>is still in pre trial. Just because the Copsity trial

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 4>is finally progressing does not mean that movement participants are

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 4>safe nowvoting an anonymous Atlanta anarchists quote, people should be very

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 4>mindful going into the trial phase that that does not

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 4>mean that they are safe. There is no statute of

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 4>limitations on a lot of this stuff. Like with a

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 4>lot of radical movements, You're going to have to hold

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 4>a lot of that shit forever. Rely on support structures,

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:20.360
<v Speaker 4>rely on your community, be careful about who you talk to. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>As Stopcop City becomes history, there will be an influx

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 4>of people trying to define the legacy of the movement,

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<v Speaker 4>whether that's through podcasts, documentaries, a college dissertation, or who

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 4>knows how many books are incoming. There already has been

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 4>a true crimification of the movement in certain coverage which

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 4>grossly objectifies the life of Torti Guita, platforms police as

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 4>more objective than movement participants, and removes autonomy from key

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 4>subjects to reframe the entire movement around other public facing individuals.

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<v Speaker 4>To quote an Atlanta anarchist one final time quote, I

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 4>think a big lesson from Atlanta and this is one

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 4>that we actually still have to win at is to

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 4>not let outside forces, whether that be the state or capital,

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 4>define the ending. That is a scope of battle that

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 4>we are still engaged with and still have to win.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 4>We need to close the book on it ourselves, need

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 4>to rubber stamp it ourselves. No other entity can do

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 4>that for us. It would be disastrous if they did.

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