Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
Speaker 1: me Tommy de Dario. So this is an episode that
Speaker 1: has been highly anticipated because today's guest is someone who
Speaker 1: has been making quite a lot of news lately. The
Speaker 1: talented actor Oliver Stark stars in the smash hit drama
Speaker 1: series nine nine one one is one of the most
Speaker 1: watch shows on primetime television. It airs on ABC, and
Speaker 1: it's one of the most popular shows for good reason.
Speaker 1: It is thrilling and suspenseful, and you've become so invested
Speaker 1: in these characters' lives, both professionally as they work and
Speaker 1: navigate through these high stake situations, but also personally. It's
Speaker 1: really gratifying to see what life is like for them
Speaker 1: beyond the firefighter gear. Oliver plays the confident and compassionate
Speaker 1: firefighter Evan Buckley aka Buck, and he quickly became a
Speaker 1: fan favorite on the show since day one, and now
Speaker 1: seasons is currently airing. And just when you thought you
Speaker 1: couldn't love the character of Buck Moore, let me tell
Speaker 1: you you can. We have a lot to cover today
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling you're going to really enjoy
Speaker 1: this fun but also personal and deep conversation where you
Speaker 1: really get to see another side to Oliver. So let's
Speaker 1: see if today we can get Oliver to say something
Speaker 1: that he has never said before. Oliver, my man, how
Speaker 1: you doing. It's good to see you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy to have you. We're going to dive
Speaker 1: in because, first of all, you recently pretty much broke
Speaker 1: the internet, and I think you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: and that is, of course that your character Buck recently
Speaker 1: came to the realization that he is bisexual. And it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool because there have been breadcrumbs, I feel like
Speaker 1: throughout the entire series. But I do think this is
Speaker 1: a newer thing for him, Like to me, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I feel like this was particularly planned over all the years,
Speaker 1: and I know for you it was something you very
Speaker 1: much welcomed and you wanted to dive into this. So
Speaker 1: why is that? Why were you excited to take on
Speaker 1: this new part of who he is?
Speaker 3: I think for a number of reasons, right, So, first
Speaker 3: of all, I do think, and not in any kind
Speaker 3: of like intentional way, but I do think if you,
Speaker 3: you know, look back through the years of the show,
Speaker 3: that there are breadcrumbs that have been leading to something, right,
Speaker 3: to some kind of I'm not happy with myself or
Speaker 3: there's a side of myself that I am not quite
Speaker 3: in tune with yet. So I was excited from that perspective,
Speaker 3: like purely a kind of storytelling perspective.
Speaker 2: But then I also think this is a really uniquely
Speaker 2: positioned character.
Speaker 3: To do this with right where Listen, we're on a
Speaker 3: network television show. This is a character who from what
Speaker 3: I've found and I tread carefully, want to sound too
Speaker 3: self congratulatory here, but he's like a lot of people
Speaker 3: have connected with him, and a lot of people of
Speaker 3: different demographics have connected with him.
Speaker 2: So I think then to show.
Speaker 3: To all these different groups of people that hey, he
Speaker 3: can be all these things and he can be bisexual,
Speaker 3: I think is a really cool message to send. And Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I think it's a really interesting character to
Speaker 3: have taken this step with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I imagine when you've played a character for
Speaker 1: so many years that this is something that is exciting,
Speaker 1: it's new, it's different, it kind of reinvigorates the role
Speaker 1: that you're playing.
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And to be honest with you, like this
Speaker 3: this season as a whole you know, we've moved networks
Speaker 3: so that there is a feeling of being reinvigorated.
Speaker 2: As a whole show.
Speaker 3: And then absolutely yeah, you know, as purely speaking as
Speaker 3: the actor, to have this to dive into and to
Speaker 3: get to explore and just to see what comes up,
Speaker 3: you know, while playing this part has been really fun.
Speaker 1: And what I like about you and what I appreciate
Speaker 1: because I am an Italian from New Jersey and I
Speaker 1: say what's on my mind for letter or for worse,
Speaker 1: and I read the Instagram story you put up basically saying,
Speaker 1: this is a show that's always been built on inclusion
Speaker 1: and love and we already profile an amazing couple in
Speaker 1: the community, so why should this be any different? And
Speaker 1: if you're having a problem with this, well see yourself out.
Speaker 1: So what went through your mind when you put that up?
Speaker 1: Was that kind of like an instant reaction? Did you
Speaker 1: really think about it, because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people wouldn't say something like that if they're seeing negative
Speaker 1: comments out there.
Speaker 3: You know, the main thought process that I had with
Speaker 3: whether or not I should speak to those comments is
Speaker 3: do I even want to give them the time of day?
Speaker 3: You know, because on one hand, it's like, I don't
Speaker 3: even want to say anything to you. If that's the
Speaker 3: kind of energy and that's the kind of viewpoint that
Speaker 3: you have on this, then I don't need to concern
Speaker 3: myself with that.
Speaker 2: So that was my main kind of concern of should
Speaker 2: I even bother? Are they worth it?
Speaker 3: But then the reason that I did want to proceed
Speaker 3: and say something is because I didn't want anybody who
Speaker 3: is of that community and who is supportive of this
Speaker 3: plot to think that I might have any side of
Speaker 3: me that has the same concerns that these people are having,
Speaker 3: you know. So I wanted to kind of just say
Speaker 3: something as a show of solidarity and be like, no,
Speaker 3: there's nothing about this plot, about this story, about this character,
Speaker 3: about this community that I have any shame in portraying.
Speaker 3: And I think it's a beautiful thing that the show
Speaker 3: is doing. And listen, I get comments where people will
Speaker 3: go to the extreme of saying things like well, I
Speaker 3: don't want to see any relationships straight gay any I
Speaker 3: just want the emergencies. And it's like, well, that's not
Speaker 3: a TV show. That's a documentary, Like you want to
Speaker 3: go watch cops, you know, there's no narrative TV show
Speaker 3: where there is no story, no personal story in relationships.
Speaker 3: So yeah, those people can say what they want. And
Speaker 3: you know, and I see it sometimes on my Instagram posts.
Speaker 3: People will get into arguments and I wish sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 3: you're never really going to change anybody's mind on the internet.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's just kind of screaming into the void
Speaker 3: and nobody's ever really listening. So to the people that
Speaker 3: are super against it, I'm like, all right, good, you know,
Speaker 3: go do whatever you want with your life.
Speaker 2: That's fine. You don't have to watch our show.
Speaker 3: The show is always, as you quite rightly say, been
Speaker 3: a show that is about inclusivity and has always had
Speaker 3: queer characters and will continue to have.
Speaker 1: So well, good on you for saying something, because, like
Speaker 1: I said, a lot of people want to have and
Speaker 1: it was really eloquently put and you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: over the top. It was just like a nice little
Speaker 1: you're either on board with this or you're not if
Speaker 1: you're not all the best, right, And I really appreciate
Speaker 1: being someone that is in the community that you did
Speaker 1: put that out there, because it's like who cares? Who cares?
Speaker 1: It's real life. So if you have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, move somewhere.
Speaker 3: Else exactly that I was Actually I was in a
Speaker 3: car driving to we were competing on a celebrity family feud,
Speaker 3: and it just hit me and I just said, you know,
Speaker 3: I do want to say something to these people, and
Speaker 3: I do want to make my stance clear. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it was in the back of a car as we
Speaker 3: were going to play family feud.
Speaker 1: Rock. Well, that's awesome. So do you think you know,
Speaker 1: I know we have a little love story right now
Speaker 1: with the character Tommy, But do you think we'll take
Speaker 1: some time to see bucks wild dating adventures as he's
Speaker 1: discovering himself this season and in seasons to come, Do
Speaker 1: you want to see that?
Speaker 2: I do? You know? I think the character of Tommy, who's.
Speaker 3: Played by lou Is has been really, really great, and
Speaker 3: you know, I really enjoy lou And I don't know.
Speaker 3: Right so we're obviously we're still making season seven. We're
Speaker 3: not even close to finishing that yet, so there's still
Speaker 3: a lot of this story left to be told. But
Speaker 3: I would think that there's a world where maybe he
Speaker 3: has opened this door for Buck and now Buck needs to,
Speaker 3: you know, walk through it and see what there can
Speaker 3: be and and and.
Speaker 2: Explore and see what more there is to discover.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's certainly one route that I could envision,
Speaker 3: or maybe not, you know, maybe maybe this sticks around
Speaker 3: for a while and and and Tommy really helps him,
Speaker 3: you know, understand more about himself and his feelings.
Speaker 2: But yeah, if I think maybe there's also an.
Speaker 3: An in between almost right where where Tommy is still
Speaker 3: in his life but also understands that this is new
Speaker 3: for Buck and that there are some things that he
Speaker 3: has to go and figure out and and maybe he
Speaker 3: can help guide him through that a little bit.
Speaker 1: That will be a really interesting journey to watch unfold.
Speaker 1: And something else. In one of the last episodes, when
Speaker 1: your character came out to your sister played by the
Speaker 1: brilliant Jennifer la Few and of course that was I
Speaker 1: think a very relatable scene for so many people. For you,
Speaker 1: what was it like filming that knowing that that is
Speaker 1: a scene so many people really do go through on
Speaker 1: their everyday life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a really lovely way to
Speaker 3: show that moment where it wasn't this like big, overly dramatic,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm being so brave moment. It kind of
Speaker 3: it was it was a little bit more on the
Speaker 3: casual side, right where that for me is maybe in
Speaker 3: fact an even brave way to show that moment where
Speaker 3: where we didn't need to put all this weight and
Speaker 3: depth on it. And he kind of just said, like, yes,
Speaker 3: I was on a date with the guy. Okay, that's
Speaker 3: not the point I'm making here. There's not that much
Speaker 3: of a difference, and that's fine. I was on a
Speaker 3: date with a guy. Can we actually get back to
Speaker 3: the problem I was talking about. I thought it was
Speaker 3: a nice, kind of lighthearted way to kind of show
Speaker 3: that moment, and the scene that he has later in
Speaker 3: the episode with Eddie is.
Speaker 2: A little bit deeper and a little bit heavier.
Speaker 3: So I think to kind of have the contrast of
Speaker 3: the two and to show that, you know, those conversations
Speaker 3: can feel different with different people in your life, right
Speaker 3: so that they're I'm you know, ask some people where
Speaker 3: it is going to be more casual and lighthearted and
Speaker 3: an easier conversation, and in others where maybe it does
Speaker 3: feel a little heavier and there's some more processing to
Speaker 3: go through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it very much reminded me of the conversation I
Speaker 1: had with my sister where she came over and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. You have three guesses here,
Speaker 1: there are multiple choice I got a girl pregnant, I
Speaker 1: have an STD or engaged because you got a girl pregnant.
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, really, no, no, I love that. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate the lighter, you know, versions of the coming
Speaker 1: out scenes, but like you said, there are heavier scenes
Speaker 1: as well. Do you think we'll see more Buck coming
Speaker 1: out to different people throughout the season?
Speaker 3: The rest of the coming out so far anyway, and
Speaker 3: we're only on episode eight.
Speaker 2: The moment that it's in a much more subtle way.
Speaker 3: It's not leaned too heavily on because the other thing is,
Speaker 3: you know, this is a big old cast and it's
Speaker 3: an ensemble show and there are a lot of different
Speaker 3: storylines going on at the same time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I actually really enjoy ways.
Speaker 3: It's in the next episode where he really kind of
Speaker 3: announces it doesn't really announce it, but but where everybody
Speaker 3: kind of becomes aware of what's going on.
Speaker 2: And it's a small moment, but it's a really lovely moment.
Speaker 1: And that's coming out beginning of May, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, May second, I believe is our next episode.
Speaker 1: Okay, May second. So if Buck had a theme song
Speaker 1: for where he is in his life right now, Oh,
Speaker 1: I think it would be what what would he be
Speaker 1: jamming out to saying, yeah, this is this is me.
Speaker 3: I so love when I ask questions like that, because
Speaker 3: you know, suddenly I can't think of any song that's
Speaker 3: ever been written by anyone.
Speaker 2: Suddenly I'm like, wait, what is music? I don't know,
Speaker 2: so I guess it would be.
Speaker 3: So so I'm gonna I'm gonna skirt around it and
Speaker 3: give a general answer of I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, but I think it would be something very upbeat, right.
Speaker 3: I think he's coming into his own and it's this
Speaker 3: like it's it's jubilation, right, It's it's this is this
Speaker 3: thing that I've been looking for.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know what the song is.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's some kind of dance track, even though I
Speaker 3: don't really want to be dancing to it, but it's
Speaker 3: something where it's like I'm ready to walk into rooms
Speaker 3: and own them. So whatever song that is, And as
Speaker 3: I say, I couldn't tell you the name of the
Speaker 3: song that's ever been written, but that one is.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, what's gonna happen. You're gonna go to
Speaker 1: bed tonight and at like two am you'll wake up
Speaker 1: and be like, damn, man, I should have said, yeah, yeah, can.
Speaker 2: We can we jump back on that? Can I can?
Speaker 2: I reanswer?
Speaker 1: If you think of Buck now and you think of
Speaker 1: Buck from season one, what do you think he would
Speaker 1: tell that guy?
Speaker 3: I think that he doesn't need to try so hard,
Speaker 3: you know. So Buck kind of in these early seasons
Speaker 3: was always trying to prove himself to everybody. He always
Speaker 3: wanted to be the first guy to run into the fire.
Speaker 3: He always wanted to be the loudest. He always wanted
Speaker 3: to be the one that was right, And it was
Speaker 3: coming from a place of wanting to prove his self
Speaker 3: worth right and because he wasn't feeling worthy of, you know,
Speaker 3: accolades and of professional advancement and personal stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I would just tell him that it's okay,
Speaker 3: you know, you don't have to try so hard. You're
Speaker 3: you're you're still young, and you're still figuring things out
Speaker 3: and you're on the right path. Just lean on those
Speaker 3: people around you and you'll find your way eventually.
Speaker 1: Man, don't you feel like that's something so many of
Speaker 1: us could have heard at a younger.
Speaker 3: Age, absolutely, which is like, honestly, one of the things
Speaker 3: I really like about playing this part is, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like my journey very much has mirrored his.
Speaker 3: You know, even if you go back to season one
Speaker 3: on the show, he was the new one to the firehouse.
Speaker 3: He was the youngest, and that was me coming into
Speaker 3: this cast as well. I was, by father least experience,
Speaker 3: that was the youngest, and so me and Buck kind
Speaker 3: of found our feet together. So so yeah, I do
Speaker 3: think that's what a lot of people in their twenties,
Speaker 3: you know, would have needed to hear.
Speaker 2: I know I certainly did, and it.
Speaker 3: Was playing this part and going through these things in
Speaker 3: real life as well as they've you know, the lines
Speaker 3: have often been very blurred.
Speaker 1: So what that being said, is there a storyline or
Speaker 1: a moment throughout the last you know, seven seasons or
Speaker 1: a character even that you feel like has made you
Speaker 1: reflect on your life in a certain way.
Speaker 3: So Buck has a very strained or had anyway, we've
Speaker 3: kind of moved past it a little bit, but he
Speaker 3: had a very strange relationship with his parents, and I
Speaker 3: don't parents are a wonderful, wonderful people. And they've been
Speaker 3: great parents to me, and I think, if anything, you know,
Speaker 3: but they do.
Speaker 2: They live in England and I live here in California.
Speaker 3: So Dee, who plays my mom on the show, really
Speaker 3: reminds me of my mom, and so to have as
Speaker 3: in not in the show that the actress reminds me
Speaker 3: of my mum. So the kind of juxtaposition of the
Speaker 3: way that Buck's parents treated him, I think just shined
Speaker 3: a bit more of a light on how lucky I
Speaker 3: was to have the kind of upbringing that I had
Speaker 3: and made me a little bit more thankful but aware
Speaker 3: of how grateful I am to them. So it certainly
Speaker 3: I think maybe made me want to be even closer
Speaker 3: to my parents and you know, even though we live
Speaker 3: five thousand miles apart, reach out a little bit more
Speaker 3: and make sure that I am being a good son
Speaker 3: to them, because it just highlighted not everybody has that relationship.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, that's so true, and it's so powerful when
Speaker 1: art or a person or whatever you're involved in a
Speaker 1: given moment of your life can have that effect where
Speaker 1: you open your eyes to something like that and you're
Speaker 1: allowing yourself to be open to something like that to
Speaker 1: having that realization. So that's pretty cool. Man, What for
Speaker 1: you is one of the greatest things you've learned about
Speaker 1: yourself through doing the show? I imagine it's a I don't imagine.
Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of hard work, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of hours, it's it's taxing, it can be draining
Speaker 1: among all the other beautiful, powerful, wonderful things. It's a job.
Speaker 1: And you've been pushing yourself for years in this role.
Speaker 1: Is there something that you're like, Man, I've learned this
Speaker 1: about me.
Speaker 3: I think the first thing that kind of comes to mind.
Speaker 3: There is like one one thing I'm really proud of
Speaker 3: myself for is like I've really tried to commit to
Speaker 3: life outside of it as well, because it can be
Speaker 3: kind of all consuming, you know, very early mornings and
Speaker 3: late nights, and finding a way to make people around
Speaker 3: you still feel included in your life.
Speaker 2: And cared for, whether that's people or dogs or whatever.
Speaker 3: It is, like, you know, still showing up in ways
Speaker 3: that I can, and still finding ways to like focus
Speaker 3: on health and fitness.
Speaker 2: And finding you know, enough hours in the day.
Speaker 3: And I'm kind of proud of my self for yet
Speaker 3: kind of committing to life outside of the job at
Speaker 3: the same time as committing to.
Speaker 1: The job, and I imagine that only in riches your
Speaker 1: work as an artist, because if you don't live a
Speaker 1: real life, I mean, how can you bring your true
Speaker 1: self to the work that you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it can be draining and exhausting
Speaker 3: to try and do that, But I think you're right,
Speaker 3: and I think it's important.
Speaker 2: I never like it when and I've certainly fallen.
Speaker 3: Into this trap before and where you make your job
Speaker 3: your whole identity. I think that's a very dangerous road
Speaker 3: to go down because what happens then when you're not working,
Speaker 3: you know, so to kind of try and keep the
Speaker 3: person who isn't on nine one one still flourishing well.
Speaker 1: Going back to nine one one for a minute, when
Speaker 1: I announced you as my guest, got lots of fan questions,
Speaker 1: and the number one question that kept coming up, I
Speaker 1: feel like you're smiling.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, you know where I'm I ask it.
Speaker 1: I feel like you know where I'm going. But it
Speaker 1: might be a slightly different spin off, okay, okay with it.
Speaker 1: So obviously people are wondering if there's anything brewing between
Speaker 1: you and Eddie, and that's something that a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to see. But I thought this was interesting
Speaker 1: when you first met that character and you seemed a
Speaker 1: little stand offish and maybe threatened and not a big fan.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because deep down you had these
Speaker 1: something there brilliant but you don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very possibly. I yet, Okay, that is an interesting
Speaker 3: spin on it, I give you that. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think.
Speaker 2: That's probably quite a wise way to.
Speaker 3: Look at it, right and to have you know, obviously,
Speaker 3: Eddie and Ryan plays him, is obviously an attractive man,
Speaker 3: so I can see that that is something that you know,
Speaker 3: the introduction of his character is literally Buck turning in
Speaker 3: slow motion and what a man is?
Speaker 2: The soundtrack is playing, you.
Speaker 3: Know, so, so I think if we look back at
Speaker 3: that moment, yes, there's definitely an element of that which then,
Speaker 3: you know, not knowing how to deal and process those feelings,
Speaker 3: he kind of sectioned off into some kind of jealousy
Speaker 3: and insecurity about himself. But yeah, I think I think look,
Speaker 3: Buck was the like young Gung ho action hero, he
Speaker 3: kind of guy of the one eighteen, and then suddenly
Speaker 3: there was Eddie who could do everything he could do
Speaker 3: and was also a single father and an army vet
Speaker 3: and was all these really cool things. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: could absolutely see that some of those early moments where
Speaker 3: they were kind of butting heads, there was some kind
Speaker 3: of feeling there that Buck didn't quite understand what it was.
Speaker 3: And obviously they've grown so much closer now, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that kind of first episode it was fun to play
Speaker 3: as well, because obviously I was having those feelings. I
Speaker 3: was like, there is this new guy on the show,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can get on board with that.
Speaker 1: And what I think I also heard you say is
Speaker 1: possibly by season ten there might be a wedding. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, between me and Eddie, you just said it, not.
Speaker 3: Me headline created, who knows, you know, Listen, I have
Speaker 3: like supreme trust in these writers. And you know, so
Speaker 3: Tim Mineer's come back to the show and he's writing
Speaker 3: it and he's really fantastic, and as was Kristen Rydell
Speaker 3: who used to write it, and it's still in our writers' room.
Speaker 3: But you know, Tim was here from the very beginning,
Speaker 3: and wherever he went, like when he called me with
Speaker 3: this storyline, wherever he wants to take it, I'm following
Speaker 3: him because he's really excellent.
Speaker 2: What he does, and you know, it shows the show.
Speaker 3: Is doing as well as it is because of the
Speaker 3: writing and the world that has been created here. So hey,
Speaker 3: if they write me at a wedding by season ten,
Speaker 3: then I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. The writing is incredible and there's
Speaker 1: so many reasons why the show has been killing it,
Speaker 1: especially with the move to ABC. I mean, shout out
Speaker 1: to ABC. We love you, ABC, but we're just super
Speaker 1: psyched that they picked up the show. Were you ever
Speaker 1: worried that the show wasn't going to get picked up
Speaker 1: and how was that transition for you over to ABC?
Speaker 3: I mean, we kind of knew that it was not
Speaker 3: going away going away, you know, we were pretty aware.
Speaker 3: We weren't officially aware until the day that it happened,
Speaker 3: in the morning of the announcement, but we kind of heard
Speaker 3: lots of rumblings that, you know, it's probably going to
Speaker 3: move over to ABC next year, and I guess there
Speaker 3: was some kind of apprehension of Okay, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Are things going to feel different? And day to day
Speaker 3: they don't feel any different. But the way that it
Speaker 3: does feel different is that it's a season one for ABC.
Speaker 3: So there's all this excitement and kind of freshness to
Speaker 3: it that has just kind of infused.
Speaker 2: Everything in the show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So I think at first there was we
Speaker 3: were just wondering what that would feel like, but actually
Speaker 3: it's been a really smooth transition, and ABC seemed really
Speaker 3: excited to have it, and that's just such a nice
Speaker 3: feeling for us to get to continue to make the
Speaker 3: show that we know so well and truly like we
Speaker 3: have so much fun making and now we're on a
Speaker 3: network who feel like, oh we've got this brand new,
Speaker 3: shiny thing. It's a really nice balance and collaboration. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really cool, and you know, we've been renewed to
Speaker 3: season eight, so long may it continue.
Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive all the numbers that have been coming
Speaker 1: out of people watching it and acquiring new audiences, and
Speaker 1: it really is one of the most popular shows on primetime.
Speaker 1: So it's an important piece of television that needs to
Speaker 1: be out there. Oliver, the name of this show is
Speaker 1: I've never said this before, so I'm wondering, is there
Speaker 1: anything that comes to mind that you can think of
Speaker 1: that maybe you haven't shared before in one of your
Speaker 1: eight thousand interviews.
Speaker 3: You've got it Okay, so kind of I guess on
Speaker 3: the same path of what we were talking about earlier
Speaker 3: about in your twenties and finding yourself. And I guess
Speaker 3: maybe in some ways I'm going to contradict myself because
Speaker 3: I said one of the things I'm proud of myself
Speaker 3: for is committing to kind of life outside of the job.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this recently, and you know, one
Speaker 3: thing I wish that I had been better at in
Speaker 3: my life, and I think this is a thing that's
Speaker 3: maybe important for certainly young men in their twenties, is
Speaker 3: I wish that I had committed more to.
Speaker 2: Like nurturing friendships. Like I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: in my life, but I.
Speaker 3: Don't know how many like friends I have because I
Speaker 3: kind of just explain, Yeah, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: put myself out there enough to keep friendships alive and thriving.
Speaker 3: And so I know a lot of people, but I
Speaker 3: don't know how many people, you know, maybe not more
Speaker 3: than I could count on.
Speaker 2: My fingers, could I like really go to with stuff.
Speaker 3: So I think there was one thing that I could
Speaker 3: do differently about the last I don't know, ten years
Speaker 3: of my life. It would be to focus more on
Speaker 3: like building friendships, and I think anybody that's kind of
Speaker 3: in the early to mid twenties, I think, yeah, focus
Speaker 3: in on that because those are the people that you're really.
Speaker 2: Going to want to have around you and be able
Speaker 2: to lean on.
Speaker 1: Really important point, is that something that is challenging to
Speaker 1: do now with the job you have or you're kind
Speaker 1: of working on that now.
Speaker 3: It is challenging. I'm trying to do more of it.
Speaker 3: But it's also it's like when you're in your late
Speaker 3: twenties or thirties, so where do you meet new people
Speaker 3: unless you work with them? You know, like I'm not
Speaker 3: out going to bars every weekend and yeah, it's like,
Speaker 3: so where do you meet friends?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3: So I hope to have the possibility to continue to
Speaker 3: work on it, but yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: It's something that I struggle with.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that. I think that's a
Speaker 1: really important point, especially in this day and age with
Speaker 1: social media and screens and tablets and people living on
Speaker 1: their phones and devices and you know, these replacing human interactions.
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good reminder to continue making
Speaker 1: those quality connections, right, Quality.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, That quality over quantity.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, cool rock on man. I've so enjoyed hanging
Speaker 1: out with you. I you know, it's funny. I talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of people, and the people who I
Speaker 1: most enjoy speaking with always have this grounding sense of
Speaker 1: gratitude and appreciation for the job they're doing and where
Speaker 1: they are in their life. And I see that with you,
Speaker 1: and I know that's only going to continue serving you
Speaker 1: for the rest of your career. So it's it's really
Speaker 1: been a blasketting to hang out.
Speaker 2: I'm really on it. I was able to come on here,
Speaker 2: so thank you everyone.
Speaker 1: Continue watching nine one one where.
Speaker 2: On ABC, come much on Hulu. I think that's it.
Speaker 1: And if you think of that song at two am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you get a message, I'll let you know.
Speaker 3: You can get slid in all right, man, be well,
Speaker 3: thank you, Thank you having good work.
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