WEBVTT - Autism & Abortion with Amy Schumer 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.640 Hi, good afternoon, good morning, and good even tide. What 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.600 does even tide mean? Catherine? Do we know? You know what? 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:09.479 I don't know? I could tell you what a fortnight 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:14.960 is two weeks. Fortnight is two weeks, right, Yes, Well 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.640 that's a pretty slow response for somebody who's bragging about 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.160 knowing what it is. Now I'm second guessing myself. I 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.479 think even tide just means evening. Weirdly, my phone is 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.520 no longer working. Lots of things are not working. No, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.920 it's not even mercury retrograde right now? When isn't mercury 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.440 retrograde all the time? I thought it was like once 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.200 a year. It turns out it's like five times a year. Yeah, 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.200 I don't know. Do you believe in that stuff, Chelsea? 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.400 I mean yeah, I don't spend Yeah, the time of evening, 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.760 So even eventide means the time of evening, just evening, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.120 So you can just use that whenever you want. I mean, 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.560 we should go over some other words. Pull Gratudinous means 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.480 beauty and grace. Oh that's a good word. What else 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.880 I mean if we're talking about time of day? I 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.479 love the word madrugada, which is like it's a Spanish word, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.720 and it means like the dawn of the day or 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.200 median that, which is snack time. Well that's nice. Is 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.760 that happy hour? Good pronunciation by the way, Yeah, okay, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:22.280 that's happy hour and that's why I know that word. Excellent. Yeah, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.160 I'm actually a secret Spanish speaker. Oh you are, I am. Yeah. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.240 I lived in Uruguay for several months in high school 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.319 and then went back and visit, so I've spent about 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.959 a year there. Lived in Mexico for a little while 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.039 as well, and studied Spanish. And yeah, so I have 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.520 a a very shushy accent in Spanish. Oh that's good 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.000 to know. Well, if you ever want to get to 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.480 my Orca, you know I have a place there, Well, excellent, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.800 that's great, and you could practice your Espanol. It's a beautiful, 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.320 beautiful place. I was thinking about selling it, and because 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:52.720 I hadn't been in two years, I was like, what's 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.840 the point of this? After COVID and then we went 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.720 back and I was like, oh no, no, no, I'm 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.559 never sell like I will sell everything I owned before 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.520 I felled us. Yeah, it's it's so beautiful and i'd 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.280 Spanish people. It's so funny I was saying to my girlfriends. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.400 This year, I took all of my girlfriends from my 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.840 ski girlfriends met me in my workout, so they were 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.920 like eight of us or seven of us. I was 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.240 like calling on and on about how Spanish are so 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.960 relaxed and just laid back, you know, even there like 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.839 three star Michelin restaurants, Like it's not a big deal 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.120 when you go to Spain and you go to a 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.720 Michelin restaurant. It's not like the rest of the world 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.839 where everybody has like an attitude or you know, they're 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.200 even cassual about that. Yeah, and they're super casual. But 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.280 when I got my girlfriends came from my worka this year, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.079 my friend like we were there alone for a couple 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.040 of days, my friend and I, and she's like, I 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.920 don't know, but it's they feel the Spanish here my 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:46.079 orkids are very unwelcoming. And I went, oh, yeah, you're right. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.080 She's like, you haven't picked up on that. I'm like, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.679 well no, because I have that same attitude, like don't 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.000 talk to me, you know, like I'm sucking happy they're 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.840 not trying to shoot the ship with me. But I 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.440 was like, oh, that's interesting. And then everywhere we went, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.920 I was like, oh, they are assholes like there, and 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.200 I was like, is it because we're Americans? Because usually 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.760 that's the reason. And I don't you know, you can't 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.160 argue that. I mean, we kind of deserve it. But 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.919 then we were like proving ourselves through town and like 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.160 like we're good customers, were good tippers, which you know 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.079 they don't care about any way over there, but you 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.440 would think anyway. By the end of the trip, I 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:27.240 realized that my rekinds are not friendly. We would go 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.639 in and like order a drink and they'd be like, 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.640 we don't have that. I'm like, you don't have the drink. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.400 I could see the bar right now. They'd like, no, 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.680 thank you, Like they were basically rejecting our asking customers. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.680 That happened on more than one occasion. And forget about 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.880 renting bikes. We rented bikes at the bike shop and 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.520 this woman was on such a tear that I I 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.480 just walked away because I was like, Okay, I can't 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.560 deal with this woman. She was so rude and so obnoxious. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.640 My friend said to her, she goes, honey, do you 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.680 she to the woman, she goes, do you hate what 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:00.520 you're doing because it's coming across that you hate what 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.680 you're doing. Do you hate what you're doing because you're 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.040 being so aggressive? And she had all this attitude. She goes, no, no, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.480 listen to me. I'm asking, like a woman to woman, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.480 you should find something that makes you happy so that 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:17.360 you can spread happiness instead of hatred. And I was like, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.800 oh wow, way to go after But then after that, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.640 the woman was like peaches and cream every time we 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.840 saw her, so obviously it made a dent. Sometimes you 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.080 got to just meet people where they are. I guess. Yeah. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.359 I was like, do I have to get out my 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.279 German and prove to you that I'm German because she's 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.320 German the woman, But I don't know any of my 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.360 German because obviously that's a heritage that you know, I'm 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.560 embarrassed about because of my Nazi roots. It's a conflicting 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.520 message my Nazi, my my grandfather who served in the war, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:47.799 and then my father and being raised Jewish. Really yeah, yeah, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.280 So I mean I don't say I think of him 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.200 as a Nazi, but he did serve in the war. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:57.000 On the timing checks out, yeah, so I do consider 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.680 him slightly to be a Nazi. But he's dead now anyway, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.000 so it have to worry about that. Yeah, he was 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.920 a prisoner of war in America for like three years, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.280 so he kind of got out of a lot of 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.000 per him. A lot of the soldiers on the German 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.200 side did not want anything to do with that war, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.000 but had nothing to say about it because it's your children. Yeah, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.920 because you'd be strung up in the streets. Yeah, if 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.039 you were saying no, Yeah, I'd like to think that 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.960 I'm the type of person that even if my family 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.400 was going to be murdered, I would say okay on principle. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.719 But that's also probably why I don't have a family, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.880 because I would easily murder them or allow them or 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.560 you already got them murdered. Yeah, i'mlike the opposite of 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:37.880 a matriarch. I'm a martyr. Oh my goodness. Okay, Well, 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.120 we have a lot to get down too. I mean, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.279 we have a lot to get up to today or 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.160 down to it. It It really depends how you look on it, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:50.320 down reach around, I don't know. Right, Well, let's get 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.680 up to something, because it sounds more mischievous. Let's get 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.880 up to something. Speaking of getting up to something, our 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.200 guest today is always up to something. She is. Yeah, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.920 she is a dear friend of mine, and she is 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.279 a supermodel. And that is how she would like to 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.640 be introduced from here. From henceforth, she would like to 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.520 be introduced as a supermodel. So please welcome number one 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:18.919 supermodel of the century, Amy Schumer. Well, thank you. I 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.240 don't know how to thank you. Well, you don't have 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.200 to thank me yet. We'll save that for the end. Well, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.599 thank each other. This is Catherine Amy. This is my 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:33.760 producer on our podcast. Hello to me likewise, and welcome 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:38.360 to dear Chelsea. It's an honor, it's a blessing. It's 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.359 a curse. It's mostly a curse. No, I'm excited to 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.560 do this. Well, I'm always excited to do anything with 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:49.240 you because we have very similar sensibilities and annoyances. So 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.840 we have a lot, we have a lot of similar 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.400 character traits, Amy and I do. So one of the 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.600 things that I wanted to talk to you about today. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.920 First of all, I saw your movie The Humans last 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.680 night on Hulu, which was awesome. Awesome acting job, Amy, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.919 awesome acting job. Thank you for the compliment on my 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.120 acting job. Thank you so much. And I hope that 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.080 this is going to come out right before my my 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.440 Hulu show Life and beathen Own starting and directed. But 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.840 it's not a big deal and it's not about that. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.120 It's about just people in relationships and being present. But yes, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.560 thank you for watching the Humans, and I hope that 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.960 people watch Life and beath on who lou Michael Sarah 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:36.080 pleased that my romantic love interests and to prepare, we 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:42.400 had actual sex. That's you know, he's married, I'm married, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.280 but we both have kids. But we wanted Hulu to 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.080 have the best show they could, so tell us about 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.160 the show, Amy for those of us who aren't familiar 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.880 with Life and Bath, tell us what it's about and 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.760 based on well it comes out on Hulu in March eighteen, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:02.840 and it is about a woman who Beth Me, whose 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.520 life is like seems pretty great on paper, good job, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.520 hot boyfriend, new York City, good, you know, everything's good. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:18.880 But she's completely dead inside and complacent in her life. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.200 And and so then there's like a big event that 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.840 sort of makes her kind of look at her choices 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.880 in her life. That's perfect for this show because we 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.680 get a lot of emails from people who are in 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.520 that exact same position, like just the best life, yes, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.920 wanted it, but like not sure how to make a change, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.240 and or feeling feeling dead inside listless, like decl tory 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.800 where you just feel like there are so many different 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.720 words to describe that feeling, but it is the worst 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.640 feeling when you just feel hopeless and like rudderless, that 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.840 is the way to express it. Yeah, stuck and just 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.920 find yourself. At first, look what am I gonna do 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.640 with my life? You're so full of hope, and then 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.640 and then you get into this life and then at 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.600 a certain point you kind of wake up and you're like, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.080 is this the life I want? You know? And so 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.679 that's kind of what the basis of the show is. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.480 And it was really fun to make. I'm excited for 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.960 people to see it. I really am. Yeah, I'm excited 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.920 to see it as well. I've heard very good things 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.400 about it. And also I think it's a very relatable 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.280 topic for anybody, Like people may look at Amien myself 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.960 as people who are you know, living their best lives 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.800 because of success or because of fame or because of 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.200 money or whatever you want to relate that to. Looks 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.760 exactly looks bodies. But I think that is applicable to 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.720 anybody in any business. You know, there has definitely been 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.480 times in my life where I'm like, is this it? 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.640 This is everything I'm contributing, Like is this all I've got? 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.360 Is this as good as it gets? So it's not 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.319 an unrelatable topic at all. It's something that everybody kind 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.360 of feels. You know, if you're doing well in life 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.040 all the time, then you're probably not learning much. And 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.760 if you're feeling good all the time of out life, 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.079 you're probably clueless. So I don't have anyone in my life. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.559 My darned the notifications is supposed to be off. Did 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.520 you get an Amazon delivery? I wish we actually live 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.280 at an Amazon facility so we don't have to wait. Perfect. Yeah, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.880 and you're someone who I feel like You and I 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.000 you know, we relate on a million things, but we 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.160 first really became friends. Like I feel like, when when 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.000 you meet someone else who's like really interested in having 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:32.120 fun and having experiences, that's more rare than you think. 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.880 You know, you would think, So it's like when you know, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.040 when we got together, when when you find someone like that, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:39.920 you're like, oh cool, this person sort of has the 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.280 same philosophy as I do, and is trying also to 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.000 better themselves in the world around them, which is funny. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.000 Like you you're friends with someone and because you like 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.800 hanging out, and then you kind of get to learn 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.520 about them, you know, like I I don't think I 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.440 knew what an activist you were, you know, just all 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:00.920 the things you were working on in that way. So 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.720 it's kind of fun to be friends with someone and 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.760 then realize how aligned you are in the you know, 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.400 topics you want to give your time and energy to. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.079 Amy did this awesome thing on Martha's Vineyard where I've 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.920 been going to Martha's Juniord since I was born. Amy's 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.720 been going there for a really long time. And Chris, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.560 her husband is from Martha's Vineyard. My first husband, her 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.840 first her her what is it called your what does 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.000 somebody who want to say to me? My current husband, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.760 Her current husband is from Martha's Vineyard, and her current 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.360 baby is also has also spent his summers on the vineyard. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.600 But Amy did this awesome thing where she every morning 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.959 last summer, every morning she had a group of people 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.480 meet in Vineyard Haven or West Tisbury was it? I'm 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.880 not sure that neiled for eight minutes and forty six 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.640 seconds for George Floyd. And she puts it that, orchestrated 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.520 that with some members of the community, and then she 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.440 had this kind of like group think after where everybody 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.000 could sit down on and talk about their feelings about 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.120 the issues, the feelings about everything that's going on politically 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.640 in this world, and just you know, the difference between 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.800 men and women and why men are a little bit 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.880 having a little bit harder time understanding the equality conversation. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.480 That's such a nice way of putting it would honor 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.800 a different black person who was murdered by law enforcement 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.760 every day, like somebody would come in and speak about them, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.840 And that was so meaningful to get to do that 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.400 with you, and it was it was really like an 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.640 amazing education. I know. I love that about you that 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:35.560 you're always trying to educate yourself more and you're never done. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.000 And I feel the same way. And just you know, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.520 when it comes to being an ally or an advocate, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.320 it's like you just have to be like, just tell 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.520 me when I sunk up, and just try your best 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.480 to help. And and no one cares about anybody's white guilt, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:53.400 so just save that for yourself and just help. Yeah, 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:59.719 so that was really meaningful what I wanted to talk 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.200 to you about first. I think what I found to 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:07.360 be very inspiring about you is you're kind of understanding 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.120 that your husband, Chris was on the spectrum, or your 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.040 suspicion that he was on the spectrum. Can you talk 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.720 a little bit about that and like how you how 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.520 you deduced that. Yeah, So there were, you know a 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.440 couple of times where like when I talked about my 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.440 special where I one time I felt like we were 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.280 walking down the street and I fell and just I 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.360 feel like everybody would have just like nine out of 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:33.840 time people would just be like, oh my god, are 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.200 you okay, and like go to pick you up, But 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.400 he just kind of like stood there frozen, you know, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.400 And it was like I was like that, that's that's 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:46.040 an interesting reaction. And if we were walking, if there 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.280 was like three people kind of walking together, he would, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.880 without thinking about it, kind of goes straight, you know, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.520 and sort of disrupt the traffic walking the other way. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.240 You know, Like just these little things where I was 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.160 just kind of like huh. And but really I think 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:04.320 the repetition him him repeating himself when we would have 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.480 some sort of a disagreement, like he would get kind 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.240 of stuck on a thought and wouldn't be able to 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.120 hear what I was saying in a way that was 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.959 so frustrating and I didn't understand. And then I just 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.800 kind of looked at a quiz online. You know they 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.640 have these like like you know, and if you have whatever, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.720 fifteen of these thirty things year on the spectrum, and 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.720 I just looked at it and it was like, oh, okay. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.160 So I just said to him, if you have any 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.680 interest in being tested or learning more about this, I'm 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.040 totally into it. But if you don't, then don't worry 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.560 about it. And he was interested in went to a 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.640 couple of different psychologists and then the one who tested him, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.920 Dr Gilbert, who is amazing. We went in together and 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:52.080 this isn't our documentary Expecting Amy On HBO Max, she 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.960 was like, you showed enough signs. I am diagnosing you 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.880 with Autism spectrum disorder a s D. It used to 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.080 be called Asperger, but it turns out Asperger I'd like 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.360 Nazi ties. Asperger sounds like it would have Nazi ties. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.880 I know, it's not like that shocking. You're like, I 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.120 think we know which side you were on Dr Asperger 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.240 and and it was really helpful and like for us 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.560 communicating and working with this doctor and understanding the sort 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:25.360 of different brain chemistry and we really you know, he 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.080 has his own experience of it, but he felt a 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.880 lot better and under just to understand your brain more 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.320 and have things make sense from your whole life and people, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.880 you know, being sort of I mean, he's really gifted. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.000 You know, he's a James Beard Award winning chef and uh, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.640 he's an amazing cookbook, the Beetlebung Farm Cookbook, which is 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.280 about the farm he grew up on, a Martha's vineyard. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.720 But it was it really helped him and I think 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.680 other people that he grew up around that you know, 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.920 makes sense and it helps us communicate. And then we 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.840 wanted to share it because just to get rid of 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:58.880 not get rid of the stigma, but just help be 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.200 Like I'm married to this beauty, a full amazing person 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.200 and he's on the spectrum. And so many people are 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.680 on the spectrum. So many people friends of mine, they're 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.760 kids that you know, they don't get diagnosed because they're 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.000 afraid of that stigma, I think, and it's a shame. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.880 So I really we both wanted to encourage people to 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.480 get tested and just find out because the tools that 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:25.160 you're given are really helpful. Yeah, and also identifying the problem. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.040 One thing. Another thing Amy and I have in comment 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.880 is that we're both doctors. Medical doctors obviously, because we're 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.520 able to make diagnoses like this quite frequently and doctor, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.360 and I was and I take a lot of pride 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.920 in that. And I was very really impressed that you 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.840 were able to spot that, and that also impressed by 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.000 Chris's inclination to actually explore it because there is this 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.960 you know, I can't tell you how many friends of 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.120 mine have children who don't want to go get tested 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.960 because they don't want to find out the truth, or 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.320 people with medical conditions that are not spectrum related that 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:55.880 don't want to get tested because they don't want to 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.320 find out the truth. And the truth is it will 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.280 make your life better. The truth is such power. It's 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.920 a tool. Then you have tools to use to understand 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.840 not only you, but how you relate to people, and 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.720 helps the people around you understand how to relate to you. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.200 It's so important. My mom is a speech and hearing 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.600 therapist for the deaf, and you know there are these 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.480 there's this invention, the cochlear implant, where they can get 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.120 some hearing and she, you know, she signs with them 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.240 and whatever. But some parents didn't want to get that 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.440 for their kids, and they didn't want them to speak sign. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.159 They would rather their children, this is not even that 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.280 long ago. They would rather their children try and lip 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.760 read and speak and not sort of admit to being deaf. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.120 And I think of it as the same way. It's 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.439 just don't you want your child to have all the 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:47.600 tools possible to feel the best and succeed. So, yeah, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.280 I feel really strongly about it. So does Hee. But 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.720 amazingly people who watched our documentary have reached out and 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.880 we're like, that encouraged me. And I got diagnosed and 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.639 I am so grateful and and things have been a 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.560 lot better and my relationships and that was like the 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.560 best outcome. Yeah, that is a good outcome. It's nice. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.720 It's nice to be able to do that. And now, 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.479 I know you posted once and I don't know if 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.560 we've talked about this personally, but you were talking about 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:18.800 gene preternaturally having the same kind of diagnosis. Is that 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.160 what are what are the percentages of that? Like how 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.400 do you what's the deal with I think the statistics 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:28.680 are pretty strong towards he will most likely have autism. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.359 Parents have different journeys with this. You know, having a 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:36.920 child with severe autism is beyond my imagination difficult. But 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.720 if Jean, if he does wind up having a s D, 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.200 I'm not looking for the signs in in a way 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.520 that I that are upsetting it. I I'm not hoping 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.560 either way. It's like most of my favorite people are 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.160 on the spectrum. But yeah, he's two and a half, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.000 and I think they don't diagnose children until like maybe six, 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.040 you know, like the earliest. I think, you know, you 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.480 could see some signs, but diagnosis doesn't come till later. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.320 And I can say, honestly, I don't have a preference 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.200 either way. You know, everybody, you just want your kids 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.199 to be happy and healthy. I think that's one of 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.960 the most important things that you guys are doing. And 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.160 raising awareness about this is like showing people that it's 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.359 not the end of the world. I have a family 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.119 member who's somewhere on the spectrum, and a friend of 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.760 mine the other day was saying, you know, she was 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.240 really worried because her nephew they're thinking he might be 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.800 on the spectrum, and she was really concerned, and I said, 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.200 you know what, it's not a guarantee that they won't 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.119 be able to live a normal, functional life. I mean, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.240 this family member of mine, he's married, he's got a 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.600 great job, he runs its own business. Like he is 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.040 extremely creative and interesting and like goes to dance parties 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.360 and you know, frolics in the woods. But like it's 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.280 not something that necessarily has to be super scary. I 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.480 don't think it's scary as all. All. Oh, I'm sorry 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.040 your your child might be gifted, right, maybe it's a 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:04.440 most people, not everybody's like it's some you know, incredible 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.080 genius with antism, but most most people, like they do 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:12.479 have a real talent and for something so and they're beautiful, loving, 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.680 kind people and good partners. And I'm sorry that they're 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.000 not going to be able to do a good job 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.480 active listening to you at a party, but that I 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.800 think that's okay, Yeah they're not. And that is one 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.840 of my favorite things about Chris is that like once 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.960 he was diagnosed, it's like you just have a full 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.800 license to just if if someone's in the middle of 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.600 a long, boring story. He will just straight up walk away, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.440 you know, and I'm just and everyone's like, oh, there 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.720 goes Chris, you know, and I still have to stand 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.560 there and listen, even though I'm dying. I want to 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.240 do chime in and say one of the cutest things 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.440 that Chris said about Amy when I asked him why 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.119