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Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate it. Oh god, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I need this so bad. You have no
Speaker 1: idea I'm not doing well. Look man, oh I see you?
Speaker 1: Why why? And look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness,
Speaker 1: let's Ding Dong's calling. And I have to say, already
Speaker 1: there's a front runner for title and mapp there's a
Speaker 1: front runner for a title. App. Well, I know that
Speaker 1: there's one key word that's going to be operative already.
Speaker 1: This word is floating around in the air, is making
Speaker 1: me feel tickled, and it is making me feel absolutely
Speaker 1: full of laughs. And that word I can reveal at
Speaker 1: this time is king. Well, you know what that word.
Speaker 1: It kind of fills me with a melancholy too. Can
Speaker 1: I explain why I would like you to go on
Speaker 1: and keep keep going speaking, and when you speak, explain
Speaker 1: why we're talking about this word king and why it
Speaker 1: means something to you, and the listeners should care. The
Speaker 1: listeners should care. Here's why the readers, the readers. I
Speaker 1: don't know when this really started. We have to get
Speaker 1: our guests into this conversation very soon post taste. She
Speaker 1: it's what we call each other work and then when
Speaker 1: you know, it just stuck. And now truly the I'm
Speaker 1: going to say something crazy. The thing I miss most
Speaker 1: from the before, from the before is your king is
Speaker 1: Mike King, not even just my king. Is the sound
Speaker 1: and the acoustics down the hallway at at our place
Speaker 1: of work. And it's just hearing her say the words
Speaker 1: king and I I miss it so and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to hear that word in person from her. From well,
Speaker 1: you know that oftentimes people say the expression, um, well
Speaker 1: your family is my family? Like, how what's this question? Well,
Speaker 1: any any friend of so and so is is a
Speaker 1: friend of mine? There it is. I found it. So
Speaker 1: I've personally feel and personally believe that if we're going
Speaker 1: by that expression, and we are, especially rotal culture number ten,
Speaker 1: we are going that expression that this person is guest
Speaker 1: this king is also my family and my friend and
Speaker 1: my king. Yes, you are her king, she is your king.
Speaker 1: I mean I haven't just heard this from you. I've
Speaker 1: heard this from studio as well, that there's a new
Speaker 1: king in town and oh she is the ones and
Speaker 1: future and past king. Oh wow. And I had that
Speaker 1: she's the ones present future King, the ones in future King.
Speaker 1: So I had known of our guests from her storied
Speaker 1: performance career, because this is a U C B L
Speaker 1: A vet, this is a JFL that and a JFL
Speaker 1: VET even and a CBS City Showcase that. So there's
Speaker 1: many avenues that I that I was familiar with this person.
Speaker 1: And then this individual of this king came to national
Speaker 1: recognition on the program Saturday Night Live, which is a
Speaker 1: beloved actually sketch comedy program that airs live from New
Speaker 1: York City, and it's sketch comedy and you're on it, yes,
Speaker 1: I am, in fact, And it's run for many years,
Speaker 1: more than twelve years, more than twelve years, and she
Speaker 1: has been on it for two seasons. And I gotta
Speaker 1: say like she is a very present person at the office.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that people have already bowed to the
Speaker 1: king that's actually good because you know what can happen
Speaker 1: when the when the subject don't bow, you get a
Speaker 1: storming of the best deal happening. That's exactly why beast
Speaker 1: deal happened. Now are you? Are you impressed with me
Speaker 1: that I knew about the storming of the best Deal?
Speaker 1: I am impressed. I know about it because of a
Speaker 1: tweet by Padma Lakshmi, she said, And I am gonna
Speaker 1: do an impression of her, and I'm just storm the
Speaker 1: best deal my daughters. She wants to be a pop
Speaker 1: star when she goes up. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: why these are These impressions are done with love. Now,
Speaker 1: she said. She tweeted, let's storm the best Deal, and
Speaker 1: I said, I think I remember that from ap European history,
Speaker 1: and I looked it up and wouldn't you know it,
Speaker 1: it was a uh topical pressiant reference. Because we are
Speaker 1: not doing well in this United States of America and
Speaker 1: you know in France they once had to storm the
Speaker 1: best deal. And so I think that Podma was actually
Speaker 1: advocating for a rush of the White House. So you
Speaker 1: can take that up with her. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: we go to Washington and and cause violence. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that we cook some go to sour doughs at home.
Speaker 1: You do you have a better pod my impression than me. Well,
Speaker 1: you know this is my pot man, And you know
Speaker 1: I've always I've always been, you know, a political person.
Speaker 1: But you know it's not really appropriate for Top Chef.
Speaker 1: And we actually do Top Chef in different cities. Is
Speaker 1: every every year we do every season. I should say,
Speaker 1: rather we do Top Chef and as different you know city,
Speaker 1: and you know the culture of that city really does
Speaker 1: you know, it really does influence the contestinants and the
Speaker 1: food and you know, I definitely you know, you can
Speaker 1: say I go for it when I'm in this day,
Speaker 1: I try all the food. I eat everything. I ate everything.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one on that show who eats everything.
Speaker 1: She's and she can say anything, and she sounds so
Speaker 1: cool and she's the coolest number one did Yeah, just whatever.
Speaker 1: She's she's the best, um. But but we're not here
Speaker 1: to talk about her. Really, we're here to talk about someone.
Speaker 1: She's the queen. This is the episode for the King.
Speaker 1: I serve at her pleasure. That's why that's what makes
Speaker 1: for the King. And I actually do as well, okay,
Speaker 1: so everyone, welcome into your ears. Go wow, Now that
Speaker 1: is a damn intro am. I so loud right now.
Speaker 1: We worry you don't We don't worry actually sorry, because
Speaker 1: I mean when the king speaks that that actually is
Speaker 1: one of the many facets of the king. Is the
Speaker 1: voice rings loud through the King my two kings, and
Speaker 1: Matt you are also my king, honey. But let me
Speaker 1: tell you, we have not met. We have not met enough,
Speaker 1: we have not been able to share each other's company. Sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: but it's just something I know in my spirit and
Speaker 1: I operate from my spirit place, and that's actually huge
Speaker 1: and I do as well. Um, and I will say
Speaker 1: that it's one of the great tragedies of us really
Speaker 1: switching cities. Can you believe? I believe? And I was?
Speaker 1: I was. I was too fucked up? Is this a
Speaker 1: cussing podcast? Okay, good, good, good? I was too fucked
Speaker 1: up my first season, you know, getting used to life
Speaker 1: to really to really get to mingle and get to
Speaker 1: know you King. But I will King, King, other King.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this is I've been waiting for
Speaker 1: this moment, and I said, we're gonna make this happen.
Speaker 1: As we know, this was supposed to happen. This was
Speaker 1: supposed to happen quite a few times in the flesh.
Speaker 1: This is not the only time this will happen. This
Speaker 1: will happen again. King is part of the Kingdom, truly. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be. This is an honor. By the way,
Speaker 1: come on, no stop it but you I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: can we get into the first year that I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to Like, yeah, just come in and get into it.
Speaker 1: But anybody, this is the thing. And you two can
Speaker 1: speak to this better than I, kim, because I have
Speaker 1: not had to move to a new city and like
Speaker 1: twelve years at this point, like I forget what that
Speaker 1: feeling is of like overwhelmed or of just like shock
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like I'm I'm afraid to do it ever again,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't think I would have to
Speaker 1: be like the new kid in life at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty. Like that was truly like. And I have
Speaker 1: friends that live in New York, but I work opposite schedules,
Speaker 1: like my schedules opposite of there, so there's no hanging out.
Speaker 1: They all live in Brooklyn. I do not. They work
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, live in Brooklyn. If I don't catch them
Speaker 1: at like six pm on a week day, it's not happening.
Speaker 1: So it was truly jarring. And I had a therapist
Speaker 1: that said, had rest, God rest her soul. Um no, no,
Speaker 1: she's still allowed. Just run through him. I run through
Speaker 1: him like a man slanging d So. Uh. This one
Speaker 1: one of her gems was I could allow myself this
Speaker 1: past summer. She's like two more in year old life,
Speaker 1: and I go, you know, I had never considered that.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, you know what, I will do that.
Speaker 1: How are you doing that? I'm good. I actually love
Speaker 1: Los Angeles very much, and um, but what it was
Speaker 1: an adjustment? I mean I think, like, I mean, my
Speaker 1: thing is like I was such a New York or
Speaker 1: I lived there for ten years, and then I also
Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island, so it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't I thought I never had to drive again.
Speaker 1: I really thought I was never leaving New York again. Um,
Speaker 1: and then getting on the road wasn't adjustment for me.
Speaker 1: But now I can say confidently that I am a
Speaker 1: good driver, although I am back to my heavy foot ways.
Speaker 1: She's got a heavy foot, Yeah, are you a weaver?
Speaker 1: I missed driving big time. I like to get where
Speaker 1: I'm going. It's like Mario Kart on these streets. Yes,
Speaker 1: honestly the only way to drive in l are you
Speaker 1: guys can't be weavers? That makes me nervous. Don't get
Speaker 1: in the car then, yeah, you gotta stay out of
Speaker 1: the car. My best friends always like she she'll send
Speaker 1: me these memes of driving with me in l A
Speaker 1: where she's riding in my passenger seat and she's the
Speaker 1: memes that the memes about, like did you die? Though?
Speaker 1: Did you die? And she's like, this is driving with you.
Speaker 1: And she also has said that she has grown to
Speaker 1: trust my driving, though it is jarring because she lives
Speaker 1: in Chicago. She's like, so she used to come and
Speaker 1: visit in l A. She's and she lived there before.
Speaker 1: But she's like, initially on my visit, I'd be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what are we doing? And then you
Speaker 1: get She's like, I get used to it because I
Speaker 1: remember you have really quick reaction time. Yeah, have you
Speaker 1: ever been in it? Have ever been in a traffic accident?
Speaker 1: You know, as an adult? One time? Um, and it
Speaker 1: was I was rear ended. My last basic bastard, truly
Speaker 1: a bastard who hopped out of his car and said,
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to my wedding, so like, what
Speaker 1: do you need? And I was like, what was the
Speaker 1: first thing he said? First thing he said, He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to my wedding day, I gotta
Speaker 1: get out of here. What do you need? And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, Um, so that was funked up
Speaker 1: my back real good. Um. And you know it's crazy
Speaker 1: is that you imagine getting rear ended is going to
Speaker 1: be this thing where it's like everyone came to a
Speaker 1: quick stop and the person behind you couldn't stop fast enough.
Speaker 1: It was like, no, I was waiting for someone to
Speaker 1: park and he wasn't paying attention. And just like, um, so, yes,
Speaker 1: this episode not my fault. I'm an incredibly good driver.
Speaker 1: I trust you, and no, I actually consider myself a
Speaker 1: good driver as well. But if I if any of
Speaker 1: my high school friends were here right now, they would laugh,
Speaker 1: laugh down because I actually was not responsible. But I
Speaker 1: was involved. And I don't know if I've told this
Speaker 1: on the pod, but when I was eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: I was getting back from a track meet. But when
Speaker 1: you know the story, Yes, so I was getting back
Speaker 1: from a track meet an invitation. It was a Saturday
Speaker 1: and I was getting into my car. I turned on
Speaker 1: the radio, made a right hand turn out out onto
Speaker 1: the road from my high school, and a kid on
Speaker 1: a bike flew out in front of me and rolled
Speaker 1: up onto my window and rolled back down. Immediately I stopped.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a tapping, but it
Speaker 1: was truly crazy and I had the right of way
Speaker 1: at everything. This kid flew out into the street like
Speaker 1: a true bad at hell. And then I get out
Speaker 1: of the car panicked. My car is on top of
Speaker 1: his bike and he had screwed like he had scurried
Speaker 1: to the side. But I'm telling you, I was like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And he was he had He was
Speaker 1: like holding his knee. He moves his hands out of
Speaker 1: his knee, his knees fucked up. And then the police
Speaker 1: came out. Girl, no, I fully hit. I fully hit
Speaker 1: a kid. And then this was in two eight, bitch,
Speaker 1: But it wasn't my fault. The kid was literally driving
Speaker 1: koko bananas, flew out into the middle of the road.
Speaker 1: And then the people that like were around me were
Speaker 1: like it was a total accident. He had a green
Speaker 1: light everything, etcetera, etcetera, and the kid like he wasn't
Speaker 1: wearing a helmet or anything not that, like I hel well,
Speaker 1: you should be wearing a helmet. But not to blame
Speaker 1: on him, but was just truly a freak moment. That's
Speaker 1: really what I'm here to do, is to just make
Speaker 1: sure that this kid knows that it was his fault.
Speaker 1: You got ten miles per hour away from being a
Speaker 1: Laura Bush to say, Brandy Noville and also Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 1: Let's not forget I was going to Brandy and and
Speaker 1: Caitlin might have been on the same freeway in l A.
Speaker 1: Their their situations. I feel like a PC for both
Speaker 1: of them, and I might have made that up. I
Speaker 1: think at least one of them was. I mean both
Speaker 1: of those cases that was vehicular man slaughter. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would hate to be I don't know that I'd be
Speaker 1: okay with self. It's not really their fault, right, but
Speaker 1: like that is a night, well, yeah, you have to
Speaker 1: live with that. The best part was that I logged
Speaker 1: onto Facebook after it happened like that night, and everyone
Speaker 1: was like um commenting on his on his Facebook, like hey,
Speaker 1: hope you're okay, Hope you're okay, and so almost like
Speaker 1: what happened? And the kid put on his Facebook status
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers hit me with his car, And that's how
Speaker 1: you know that Matt was you know a name. I
Speaker 1: was the high school campus celebrity because I did the
Speaker 1: morning announcements. I did the morning announcement. This is King,
Speaker 1: this is King, that's this is King. But this is
Speaker 1: also a trend I found among people in our little circles,
Speaker 1: like a lot of comedians and like truly like two
Speaker 1: thirds of the cast at work, like we're all morning
Speaker 1: announcements people. I remember doing the day after Britney Spears's
Speaker 1: VMA performance more, I like signed off and I thought
Speaker 1: I was being so smart and funny. I was like,
Speaker 1: have a better day than Britney Spears did yesterday. And
Speaker 1: it was mortifying and I regret it. And that's my
Speaker 1: equivalent of vegular manslaughter. Emotionally, I fully pancaked Britney Spears
Speaker 1: that day. I will never forgive myself. Did you hear
Speaker 1: about it from the other students, Well, they were like
Speaker 1: kind fell and that was so funny that you mentioned
Speaker 1: like back then, like no one like a refined sense
Speaker 1: of humors that they were just like you referenced a
Speaker 1: thing and that's funny, like it was the beginning of
Speaker 1: meme culture and what you did that day. I ran
Speaker 1: for class president and one of my slogans over the
Speaker 1: morning announcements was, whoever said progress was a slow process
Speaker 1: wasn't talking about me, king, But let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: My teacher, Mr. Spiby, my government teacher, was like, what
Speaker 1: was that. He's one of my favorite teachers and made me.
Speaker 1: Mr Spiby just truly was I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: tell if you're roasting me, if you're genuinely disappointed. That's
Speaker 1: it was this line. I couldn't tell where he if
Speaker 1: he was really disappointed or roasting me. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was in high school that that was
Speaker 1: actually in high school by then, and yeah, the students
Speaker 1: came to thee but but yeah, they liked it. I
Speaker 1: just remember being like, oh, that was stupid. That was bad. Mrs.
Speaker 1: I remember needing to shake it up a little bit
Speaker 1: because they had us on a really like a like
Speaker 1: almost like a script, and I would just kind of
Speaker 1: throw my little ad libs in there, and like I
Speaker 1: remember the the woman who worked in the main office Ms.
Speaker 1: Lucas would always kind of give me like an a
Speaker 1: raised eyebrow, and I remember she would never let me
Speaker 1: say the Pledge of allegiance because quote unquote she liked
Speaker 1: to do it. Um, so that's what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1: One day, as my sign off, I said, instead of like,
Speaker 1: have a great day, I said thanks, and have an
Speaker 1: earth shattering day. And I got called into the principle
Speaker 1: because he said that, um, we couldn't be having a
Speaker 1: terrorists like, so this is what like see after two
Speaker 1: thousand one, right after that, like this is like this
Speaker 1: is two eight So it was still like everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: hashtag terrorism. So he thought that my earth shattering day
Speaker 1: was like a dog whistle, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: we would hate for someone to hear me and shatter
Speaker 1: the earth. Were you a little ass hole in school?
Speaker 1: Bat Well, I'll tell you this. I had my moments.
Speaker 1: I certainly had my moments, but I was really generally
Speaker 1: a good kid. I was actually prom king. Oh, actually
Speaker 1: an actual king king. I mean here's the thing, this
Speaker 1: is king. When we talk about king, were talking about me,
Speaker 1: we mean Matt Rogers. I was doing like all American
Speaker 1: boy drag. I I was homecoming king, but I king.
Speaker 1: I got in a lot of trouble. Now that I
Speaker 1: think back on high school, this is a this is
Speaker 1: the thing that I've tried to erase for my pastors
Speaker 1: that I've gotten in a lot of trouble. Got suspended,
Speaker 1: he wore a scarlet letter. I never got suspended. Trips
Speaker 1: in the principal's office, but never suspended. You get five
Speaker 1: days oss. I got five day out of school suspension
Speaker 1: for criminal criminal. Here's what happened. This was April two
Speaker 1: thousand four, freshman year of high school. Wow, a young criminal,
Speaker 1: young criminal. Um, young criminal, good criminal, good criminal. I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to suspend that one. We um just
Speaker 1: got our yearbooks and I was in the closet, but
Speaker 1: like kind of just like key keying with with the girls,
Speaker 1: the literal siss girls of corks, of of the of
Speaker 1: the grade of corks. And then one of them, Um,
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily need full and full. First, I was
Speaker 1: going to say, is this a cast where we dropped
Speaker 1: first and last actually first and last names, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that girl's burned. Well, I'm positive that I'm positive that
Speaker 1: first name was Ashley. Okay, So here. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: She had a stepfather who was this huge, huge lawyer.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of law but this big, big,
Speaker 1: big lawyer in town. And she and I got along great.
Speaker 1: And then she and I had this bit going on
Speaker 1: all freshman year that like I was gonna that we
Speaker 1: were gonna have sex, like in a way that in
Speaker 1: a very like ironic way and a very ironic I
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna we're gonna have sex someday like
Speaker 1: this summer. When should we should we should we like
Speaker 1: put in the books, like when we're gonna have sex,
Speaker 1: like all this stupid stuff. Right. Um, So then in
Speaker 1: the yearbook, when the yearbooks came out, I wrote, Hey, Ashley,
Speaker 1: can't wait to funk this summer love Bowen, like where
Speaker 1: it was the thing where the dynamic was clearly like
Speaker 1: Bowen's not into girls, and like it's it's all in
Speaker 1: good humor. So then yeah, you have heard this, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: heard this? So then I come home one day from
Speaker 1: my violin lesson, I played to play Yes King, Yes King.
Speaker 1: I was actually a true clarinet queen. Clarinet queen. I
Speaker 1: was a clarinet queen with the rest of the whors
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that the whors play would win, especially Real
Speaker 1: Culture number fourteen, the hors Wood wind Winds. I do
Speaker 1: believe that's true. I believe that's true. That's changing reads.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't that good at violin, but anyway,
Speaker 1: but then violin, So they come up with violin. And
Speaker 1: then um, there's like seven messages on the answering machine.
Speaker 1: Just hang up some clicks, hanging up some clicks, and
Speaker 1: then we get another call. We're like, who kept calling us?
Speaker 1: And then we get another call and it's from Ashley's stepfather,
Speaker 1: who starts off the call by saying, I just want
Speaker 1: you to know that I've been sitting here by the
Speaker 1: phone a very long time because there are a lot
Speaker 1: of Yang's in the phone book. And then because Denver
Speaker 1: suburbs are very Korean, Um there's a there's a heavy
Speaker 1: rein population. But anyway, UM, there's a lot of Yangs
Speaker 1: in the phone book, and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then he goes, this is sexual harassment. You have
Speaker 1: violated my my stepdaughter, and I take my relationship with
Speaker 1: her various and and like this whole time, I was
Speaker 1: like there's no fucking way that Ashley like ratted me
Speaker 1: out or anything. What the hell? But but then, but then,
Speaker 1: but then the whole call, he was like, so, I
Speaker 1: am going to do everything in my power to get
Speaker 1: the school board to expel you, everything in my power
Speaker 1: to get the school board to expel e spell to
Speaker 1: expel my am. And then the next day I go
Speaker 1: in and then I and then I'm freak out and
Speaker 1: then my mom is like what are you? Like my
Speaker 1: mom didn't understand what's going on. And then um, the
Speaker 1: next day before I got called into the dean's office,
Speaker 1: Ashley like comes to me and she's like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Like I can't like fix this. She
Speaker 1: did you tell her that her words were empty? Yes?
Speaker 1: I truly was like, I you're your stepfather's insane. Um,
Speaker 1: but anyway, uh, and then like truly never spoke to
Speaker 1: her again. But then yeah, they suspended me for five days.
Speaker 1: Isn't crazy? Absurd? Absurd? Absurd? And then I had on
Speaker 1: my college applications I had to like explain there's like
Speaker 1: a section in like the common appen in every application
Speaker 1: where they were like, have you ever been like whatever?
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, have you ever been suspended? Explained why?
Speaker 1: And I had to be like, well, there's a sexual
Speaker 1: harassment line item in my trance through Eversen, and here's
Speaker 1: what happened, and here's what I learned. It was truly
Speaker 1: funny but also so so stupid. Did you get up
Speaker 1: to mischief there? Go? No? You know, well, no, I
Speaker 1: have an issue with authority. I don't like people telling
Speaker 1: me what to do. I never have, not even as
Speaker 1: a young person. Um, And I don't like when people
Speaker 1: adults take a tone with me. Don't take a tone
Speaker 1: with me. You can tell me the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: Son's tone. And so yeah, I would get a lot
Speaker 1: of like I would, I would get a lot. I
Speaker 1: was said to the principal's office quite a bit. But
Speaker 1: I would then go there and then be like, and
Speaker 1: now I'm going to talk to the principle like we're
Speaker 1: buddies and it's fine, and they forget why I'm there,
Speaker 1: and they forget that I was being disruptive or whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: I knew this girl. I knew this girl. We all
Speaker 1: knew this girl. Yes, I just but I was good grades.
Speaker 1: I I did like to have my fun in class
Speaker 1: but I was also a child of immigrants. I respected adults,
Speaker 1: but I just feel, don't use I'm not to be
Speaker 1: used as a scapegoat, and don't take a tone with me,
Speaker 1: and we'll be fine. See And I think, I go,
Speaker 1: this is my theory. If I mean, I'm gonna armchair
Speaker 1: analyzed for a second, that that issue with authority I
Speaker 1: think has very productively and very beautifully transposed itself on
Speaker 1: your low tolerance for bullshit when you date people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. It's just one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: to do is listen to you talk about how stupid
Speaker 1: men are. I know, you know someone is asking me
Speaker 1: during quarantine, are your any flings coming back to check
Speaker 1: up on you? Like during this quarantine. You know it's
Speaker 1: a time everyone's got downtime, people are feeling lonely. And
Speaker 1: the answer is no, none of mine are because I
Speaker 1: have trained all my hose and they know not they don't.
Speaker 1: That's not an option for them, don't you You wouldn't
Speaker 1: have it any other way though. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: any of them contact me. There's no one I can
Speaker 1: think of that. I'm like, oh, I wish he would,
Speaker 1: you know, if he texted me late night and I'm
Speaker 1: in a mood like I not a single person I've
Speaker 1: dealt with do I want to hear from right now?
Speaker 1: They're you know what, there's one person who if he honestly,
Speaker 1: there's one guy that if I'm curious, I mean, I
Speaker 1: hope to really be in love with whoever I'm married,
Speaker 1: I imagine I will be. But there's one person that
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if he texted me while I were married,
Speaker 1: I would maybe feel that, oh, that I will act
Speaker 1: on it, but I might go, well, that's there might
Speaker 1: be a fleeting moment where you're just like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love to love to hear from him. See, I always
Speaker 1: love to hear from anyone who wants to reach out.
Speaker 1: I call them the community. Whenever the community wants to
Speaker 1: reach out. And there is a community of people out
Speaker 1: there who I've spent time with, shared time with, and
Speaker 1: if they ever want to reach out, I always welcome that.
Speaker 1: And this is his message to you. He reach out.
Speaker 1: Like how you say there's people have shared time with,
Speaker 1: because I him too, dealing with would make it sound
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I had to, you know, laboriously get
Speaker 1: through the process. I've enjoyed many processes I what are
Speaker 1: some of the names of your processes. I would actually say,
Speaker 1: let's do first and last first campaign naming names. Campy
Speaker 1: naming is always welcome to d M sloide Um. I
Speaker 1: love that some of these girls during char are getting
Speaker 1: very horny on Maine. Yeah, people, Yeah, you know that
Speaker 1: that's something that something unique to me. Um seems to
Speaker 1: be horny on me. I don't get horny on me.
Speaker 1: I actually don't given I don't give that to My
Speaker 1: main is Christian, have a Christian Maine. Christian Maine. My
Speaker 1: main is born in Christian Maine is another front runner
Speaker 1: for title of that. Okay, we're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'renna be right back with ego. Okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: But my thing is, if I've ever hooked up with
Speaker 1: a person in my life, three years later they do
Speaker 1: become the hottest person in the world. So I always say,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like Dane Cook and good luck Chuck.
Speaker 1: But for Instagram aesthetic Okay, okay, And that's also a
Speaker 1: little backdoor brag too. I mean, they look, they look
Speaker 1: good when I have them, and then three years later
Speaker 1: they look like someone who it's impossible they could I
Speaker 1: could ever be in the same Wow, it's crazy when
Speaker 1: she could say the same. I look back on some
Speaker 1: of mine and I go, I will be by myself
Speaker 1: and think of someone I've dealt with and god like
Speaker 1: at the out loud audible right by myself and go, um,
Speaker 1: so that's not there's one man. There's one man. Often No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't do comedy. He doesn't. He doesn't do comedy,
Speaker 1: he doesn't dabble in entertainment. Hey, can we speak in
Speaker 1: vagary about what it is about him that that makes
Speaker 1: him sort of still there? You know. I had this
Speaker 1: conversation last night about him with my friend. My friend
Speaker 1: Jason was like, what is it about him? And so
Speaker 1: here's the thing is that I am such an alpha
Speaker 1: woman that it felt he felt he seemed to out
Speaker 1: alpha me boy, and it was like, yes, I am
Speaker 1: dealing with an alpha man here who can make me
Speaker 1: feel like a little petite queen. You know. Um. I
Speaker 1: felt safe with him, physically safe. Um. And he is
Speaker 1: so handsome. He's handsome. We're talking, we're talking. I mean
Speaker 1: he is black, white, Native American. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, Okay. So then, because this is interesting because
Speaker 1: I feel like the thing that I I in your head,
Speaker 1: you're like looking good looking through I'm going through it.
Speaker 1: Video on the music video on the beach, she's shaking
Speaker 1: your head. Gosh. Well, okay, because I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of guys you hate that. You hate when a
Speaker 1: lot of guys stonewall or they're just idiots and they
Speaker 1: like don't give you any sort of like well this
Speaker 1: room to like there's no entry point with a lot
Speaker 1: of these men. Well, yeah, I feel like I don't.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I'm not. I don't know if what flirtation looks
Speaker 1: like to me is normally I'm like I like to
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me roast you. You like the neg Well,
Speaker 1: so if I actually okay, So here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: I actually like a guy, um, I become very shy,
Speaker 1: so there is no necking. It's like very like I'm
Speaker 1: like this big um. But that almost never happens. So
Speaker 1: what I'm like on a on a date normally is
Speaker 1: like I'm driving the conversation. Um, if I feel he
Speaker 1: has thick enough skin, I will roast him um. But honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want to be like that. I
Speaker 1: want to be a I don't know how to. This
Speaker 1: is what happens with them is that I think that
Speaker 1: I'm not like, I don't flirt properly, so um, I
Speaker 1: maybe have walls up that I don't even see, and
Speaker 1: so that they don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 1: But rest assured the man that I'm talking about that
Speaker 1: could have it now shouldn't reach out and want it.
Speaker 1: If he today or any day I wanted to reach out,
Speaker 1: he could he. I mean I knew him for a
Speaker 1: very short amount of time, and he I think about
Speaker 1: him how many years later? Six years? Sometimes those happen
Speaker 1: that first there was I was like, I hung out
Speaker 1: with this guy one time in college. I went to
Speaker 1: visit my friend Alison at college, and um, like I
Speaker 1: met her one gay friend whose name was also Matt.
Speaker 1: And I thought about that boy for seven eight years
Speaker 1: and no one could ever really compete. Yeah, not until
Speaker 1: I not until I had my first boyfriend, Like years later,
Speaker 1: did I like really let that guy go. Still to
Speaker 1: this day, sometimes I'll just go I'll go to the
Speaker 1: Instagram and be like, what good b wait, what does
Speaker 1: that does that look good? Looks he looks good? Where? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure, I don't care. He lives outside of Boston
Speaker 1: as a boyfriend. It's like, it's like, whatever, it's been
Speaker 1: so many years and I don't even know what his
Speaker 1: deal is now. But do you remember this guy Blin
Speaker 1: when we were we were in a went up to
Speaker 1: Boston because I was so excited he was going to
Speaker 1: be there. I was like, we were going to be
Speaker 1: in the same city. And then you know, time passes
Speaker 1: and things change, but I will always have that weekend.
Speaker 1: And at the University of Massachusetts Amherst Amherst, Amherst, Dakota
Speaker 1: went to college. Who was Mr Dakota. Dakota is the
Speaker 1: one we're talking about. Dakota is the one I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: The Oh we're using first and first names. That's yes.
Speaker 1: Amherst actually secretly has that bomb. Dick. Apparently they apparently
Speaker 1: had that bomb. It's actually a really culture over seventeen
Speaker 1: has that Apparently. I was. I was in love with
Speaker 1: this boy love I've ever felt. So yes, I've never
Speaker 1: been in love, and I'm pretty sure it's the closest
Speaker 1: to I'd him for one week and then we saw
Speaker 1: each other again a year later for one day Christmas.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the movie Go to the Distance?
Speaker 1: With Drew Barrymore and justin Long. Me and this guy
Speaker 1: used to text each other that that was our movie.
Speaker 1: Come on because it was like about L d R.
Speaker 1: I need to I'm going to watch this because I'm
Speaker 1: a real simple underneath all these girl. This is a
Speaker 1: good movie. And I have a very very very very
Speaker 1: soft spot for Drew Barrymore. Okay, all she is something special?
Speaker 1: Yes ever all okay, yes, and you must name one.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to put you in the spot. Honestly
Speaker 1: took me a while that it took me a while
Speaker 1: to think of, think of. Josh Sharp showed our our
Speaker 1: other king, Josh Sharp. All three of us, Yes, we
Speaker 1: all love a Josh Sharp. We bowed to Josh really
Speaker 1: to reserve it his pleasure. He played me the screen
Speaker 1: test for the kid who played Elliott. Have you seen this? Crazy?
Speaker 1: He just need to look this up as well. You
Speaker 1: got to look this up, ego. It's basically like this
Speaker 1: kid who ended up booking um Elliott in et giving
Speaker 1: an audition that we as actors respect, must respect and
Speaker 1: it's timeless, and they he booked the role in the audition.
Speaker 1: They tell him right after they cut. Does that happen
Speaker 1: in Hollywood anymore though, in the room booking in the room,
Speaker 1: in the room, huh, wouldn't you rather just be offer only?
Speaker 1: I would love to be offer only. I would love
Speaker 1: to not put makeup on travel to the audition blase
Speaker 1: at this point, can you'd be surprised how many people
Speaker 1: want me to do a self tape? One self tape
Speaker 1: in quarantine? Yes, she doesn't do them. I don't do them.
Speaker 1: And so was asked to do one in quarantine. This
Speaker 1: was like week one and I go, what no, But
Speaker 1: I bet you auditioned. I you know what. I have
Speaker 1: found a way. I'm not even I can like bashful here,
Speaker 1: but to be honest, I have found a way. Can
Speaker 1: you summarize it? Can you summarize your way? And you
Speaker 1: are very good? You pop on my way? I just
Speaker 1: thank you, king gass me, I'll gasant gass me. My
Speaker 1: way is I decided that I'm like, you get to
Speaker 1: this is the corny is actory thing I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: But my way you get to have five minutes to
Speaker 1: put on it g d show, put on a show
Speaker 1: and do whatever you want. And and honestly, I had
Speaker 1: a casting executive tell me to throw it like throwout
Speaker 1: breakdowns like this into She's like, the breakdown is nothing
Speaker 1: and we don't know. She's like, no way, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So I put on a show, a beginning, middle, and end.
Speaker 1: I kids, you not uh in my auditions and I
Speaker 1: have the most fun because of it. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't miss auditioning, to be clear, but I am like
Speaker 1: I found a way to like make it work for
Speaker 1: me or whatever. I for the longest time had such
Speaker 1: a hard time and auditions and they made me nervous
Speaker 1: and they made me I remember, I felt like a
Speaker 1: very like whatever, I'll just say. Whenever I went I
Speaker 1: was on stage, I always felt really powerful, and then
Speaker 1: when I would get in the audition room, I felt
Speaker 1: like I lost all my power and I didn't know
Speaker 1: what it was. And finally I took a session with
Speaker 1: an acting coach who used to be a casting director,
Speaker 1: and she told me, she was like, you need to
Speaker 1: understand that it doesn't fucking matter, and you need to
Speaker 1: go in there and have fun, because that is that everything.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as being on stage when you
Speaker 1: have fun, they have fun. It's the same thing as auditioning.
Speaker 1: Going there, you have nothing to lose because you don't
Speaker 1: have the job yet and go in there and be
Speaker 1: confident to have a good time. And even just hearing
Speaker 1: the words which I knew deep inside, but even just
Speaker 1: hearing those words like you gotta let it go and
Speaker 1: you've gotta have fun was so helpful. And the results
Speaker 1: for me in the past eighteen months, as opposed to
Speaker 1: where I was, have been night and day. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so rudimentary and that I will tell friends that
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you just have to have fun, and like,
Speaker 1: do what the funk you want? Like truely, just be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna great. These are the words, great, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: honor them, whatever, but I'm gonna have so much fun.
Speaker 1: And you hate to hear it because it just sounds
Speaker 1: like someone's daring you, like cliche advice, but it's actually
Speaker 1: the thing. And to make it work for you, don't
Speaker 1: try to do the sides. Make the side walk for you.
Speaker 1: That is huge advice that I could get. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I love this beginning, middle and end thing. I go, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I this is who I had a general recently
Speaker 1: and this executive was get me, which was funny, Actually
Speaker 1: was kind of funny because General's I don't love, but
Speaker 1: this was kind of funny. And this is why I
Speaker 1: take toxic men um because because I think, I mean
Speaker 1: men are funny. Um. So he was making fun of
Speaker 1: my uh Law and Order Menendez murders credit where I
Speaker 1: played juror number. Cannot remember maybe twelve. Remember I cannot
Speaker 1: remember my juror number. I do believe my name was
Speaker 1: Lynn though as well. But let me tell you that
Speaker 1: paid for this laptop. Thank you, Dick. Um so uh.
Speaker 1: I that audition was one line. It was like two sentences,
Speaker 1: one line for this recurring role. Um and it. I
Speaker 1: remember being like I had like a weird one the
Speaker 1: day before for something else, and then for this one.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is two sentences, like two and
Speaker 1: a half sentences. I'm like, great, this game changer this day. Alright,
Speaker 1: go we're gonna beginning, middle, and end this ship. So
Speaker 1: I had like a baby scene up tap with no
Speaker 1: words that because I was also the last person they saw,
Speaker 1: I wasn't going in at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: The sun side and sheet had a million people. For
Speaker 1: Juror number twelve, I was the last person. Um, it's
Speaker 1: like sixty I do a beginning no words and then
Speaker 1: I do the actual words, and then I had an end,
Speaker 1: and then it was like and she booked it and
Speaker 1: she and I was like, oh, that's what they want.
Speaker 1: You need to do this. I need to do this
Speaker 1: all the time because that just proves it out where
Speaker 1: there's there's no sides that are too short for beginning,
Speaker 1: middle and end. And also like this myth of that
Speaker 1: you have to do exactly the words, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know how you guys feel, but if I don't feel
Speaker 1: like I have enough in my self tapes, I improvise
Speaker 1: like I want. Like I recently went on tape for
Speaker 1: something and it was a comedic role and I knew
Speaker 1: that it was a series regular and a large part,
Speaker 1: but just it just so happened that in the sides
Speaker 1: there were just no there was not a lot of jokes.
Speaker 1: So like I thought, if I do this on tape
Speaker 1: and I'm not even in the room with a casting director,
Speaker 1: they're gonna see this and it's gonna look basic and
Speaker 1: not like nothing. And so I gave myself and like
Speaker 1: even just like making a character choice beforehand and being
Speaker 1: like this is the perspective, that's where I'll improvise based
Speaker 1: off of just give yourself fill the time because they're
Speaker 1: only going to get the tape. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to say hello and goodbye to you and strike
Speaker 1: up a conversation with you based on the even the weather.
Speaker 1: So if you are doing a self tape, fill the
Speaker 1: self tape up, yes, and even even kind of do
Speaker 1: like the you know, put the conversation in there, like hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going, and then pause and wait for them
Speaker 1: to responds trying to drag you kick, No, I'm not
Speaker 1: dragging anybody here. These are two actors, you two, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, and this is and I just
Speaker 1: want to say this as a way to compliment my
Speaker 1: kings and exalt my kings, but these two are better
Speaker 1: actors than me combined and me combined in me combined King,
Speaker 1: that's an actual lie. When King, when my King did
Speaker 1: his update week two of his first season on Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live, a program that has been an air from
Speaker 1: more than twelve season, okay, I was like, Wow, a performer,
Speaker 1: a true performer, captivating, you know. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I just want to also, I'm having a moment right now,
Speaker 1: the moment I'm looking at both of you right now
Speaker 1: and I go, I'm in the presence of royalty. Is
Speaker 1: not a bit. This isn't a bit, This isn't a gas.
Speaker 1: This is realness. Because the game show fantastic and we
Speaker 1: have to standon Zel. You did you did the showcase? Yes?
Speaker 1: And that is my hunt. Oh my goodness, that voice.
Speaker 1: The number of times I've made her sing for me,
Speaker 1: There are deals on my phone of her singing for
Speaker 1: me over the course of the last few years. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was true wish fulfillment to even have her on
Speaker 1: the show, because I was truly that girl who was
Speaker 1: voting American Idol season four. Didn't even see Carrie Underwood,
Speaker 1: didn't see her eyes on Zel up until way past
Speaker 1: my bedtime school day the next day. One eight six idols, Oh,
Speaker 1: whatever number I had to type for Ms von Zelle,
Speaker 1: thank you for a voting for contestants six whatever number
Speaker 1: she was von Zelle. And then every now and then
Speaker 1: they would do the special treat of being like, Hi,
Speaker 1: this is von Zell, and thank you for voting for me.
Speaker 1: Watch American Idol tomorrow for the results. And I was
Speaker 1: always like, yes, but slay Slay, slay slash. She's so
Speaker 1: good on game show and even to meet her. You guys,
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm just having a moment where I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: these people aren't regular girl. King. Okay, I'm having him away.
Speaker 1: Look at you two. I might wait, let me let
Speaker 1: this really sink in here because we're doing this. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, you guys are like, but this is
Speaker 1: this is I stand and I truly love and I
Speaker 1: exult because of course it's King, but I really want
Speaker 1: to say, like, it's bumming me out that we all
Speaker 1: can't be in the same room because I was I
Speaker 1: was about to fly to New York, babe to do
Speaker 1: this in the flash, and I thought, oh great, great,
Speaker 1: I can have my moment with Ego. And so now
Speaker 1: we have to do the moment remote and it is
Speaker 1: the great tragedy of kar again. It is. We'll have
Speaker 1: to do it again because I would love to. I
Speaker 1: would love for us to have our in room moment.
Speaker 1: I really wanted to do this. I it's gonna happen again.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It will happen again. But right
Speaker 1: after this break, we are going to have actually the
Speaker 1: true beginning of the episode here now forty five minutes
Speaker 1: in and it's going to be Ego wote I'm answering
Speaker 1: the question about what culture made her say the culture
Speaker 1: was for her and it's actually gonna have right after
Speaker 1: this break. Okay, we're back with Ego um Ego. First,
Speaker 1: before we get to the question, I have to say
Speaker 1: there's a lot of exalting happening because it is King.
Speaker 1: But this is this is King, this is King. I'm talking.
Speaker 1: We're talking to one of my true soulmates, that one
Speaker 1: of my partners at that damn show, and you need
Speaker 1: your damn was gonna say, you must really need good
Speaker 1: friends there you do? Are you kidding me? Imperative? Okay,
Speaker 1: what you've seen that like my lowest damn moments. Oh
Speaker 1: you've seen me. You've seen me this season. You caught
Speaker 1: me in the hallway slipping. I was. And then anytime
Speaker 1: you like come into my dressing room, my dr we're
Speaker 1: going to talk shop for just one secontalk. I just
Speaker 1: it's always so welcome. And then like truly like I
Speaker 1: and then I think about like conversations that you and
Speaker 1: I have just had one on one where we just
Speaker 1: get real about stuff when like things are crazy and
Speaker 1: we're just I'm just think God, because the amount of
Speaker 1: isolation you feel. I mean, I'm just thinking about like
Speaker 1: being like loneliness in general now especially, but like in
Speaker 1: some ways, I feel like that job sets you up
Speaker 1: to be good at being alone, and it is isolating
Speaker 1: it in some ways that like thickens your skin whatever.
Speaker 1: But like the moments where you do get like solidarity
Speaker 1: with people, You're just like, oh, thank God, and this
Speaker 1: is such a blessing and like honestly and not to
Speaker 1: not to like I'm not even comparing it, but it's
Speaker 1: like you and Heidie to like the thing you you
Speaker 1: guys have is like so special, and I love Heidie Gardner.
Speaker 1: She is like my baby. That's my baby, my baby,
Speaker 1: Like she's connecting all of us. Yeah, but I I
Speaker 1: I'm really excited because I when I think about work,
Speaker 1: because I'm I I'm like, oh, there are people there
Speaker 1: in this very hard place that I'm like, your heart
Speaker 1: is good, your soul is good. We have a real
Speaker 1: genuine connection. We are for one another. And you can
Speaker 1: be frustrated and um discouraged and disappointed but still simultaneously
Speaker 1: be celebrating your friend and wanting to support your friend,
Speaker 1: and that feels really special, like a special thing we
Speaker 1: have and I was talking to someone who is an
Speaker 1: exact at the Peacock Um and it was like this,
Speaker 1: that wasn't That's not always the case here, So it's
Speaker 1: not always that. So I feel really fortunate to be
Speaker 1: here at a time where that is the case, and
Speaker 1: there are people that I feel connected to and I love.
Speaker 1: I'm always in Bowen's dressing room. It's so comfy and
Speaker 1: just I'm and sometimes I'm like, I'm that annoying neighbor
Speaker 1: who just won't leave, and it's always and I haven't
Speaker 1: Apparently I knock like a police officer. I think Chris
Speaker 1: Chris is always like you knock like the police, but
Speaker 1: I don't know any other way to knock. So I
Speaker 1: am just enough. It's perfect, the Prince of my heart.
Speaker 1: I adore you, King, and I really am. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we are exalting. We're exalting is because this is
Speaker 1: king this is the culture. Let me just I'm just
Speaker 1: we're exalting the kingdom here that exists. This is a kingdom.
Speaker 1: But I today I think I called somebody and I
Speaker 1: was like King, and I was like, oh, sorry, that's
Speaker 1: not for you. It quite literally didn't feel right, and
Speaker 1: not because I don't love the person, not because they're
Speaker 1: not lovely and correct in so many ways. But I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's not that's not what I call
Speaker 1: Not everyone is king, and that's everyone. Thank you, okay,
Speaker 1: and actually this is something I want to be highlighted.
Speaker 1: Not everyone is king, Make no mistake. It's actually a
Speaker 1: royal culture number ninety one. Not everyone can be born
Speaker 1: into the royal family. Okay, all right, I'm glad we
Speaker 1: got that out of the way. I feel good about that.
Speaker 1: I wanted to um say because I I feel it's
Speaker 1: a good opportunity to highlight someone. I wanted to express
Speaker 1: my condolences to you guys for the loss of your friend.
Speaker 1: How that was. That was very sad to hear about.
Speaker 1: And I've heard from several people that worked there what
Speaker 1: an amazing person and an amazing talent he was. And
Speaker 1: I thought that was really classy of SNL to have
Speaker 1: that piece where all the casts and people involved with
Speaker 1: the show we're talking about about about him and his
Speaker 1: his goodness and his talent was just he Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was someone who, like UM was kind of like came
Speaker 1: with the job, he got there, and he was just
Speaker 1: that person who like has been there. Yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: never introduced himself to me, but just started talking to
Speaker 1: me like my first season, and it's the kind of
Speaker 1: like it's so the people who have been there for
Speaker 1: so long and do things like that. I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it makes you feel seen and sometimes you feel invisible,
Speaker 1: and so you so so special in that way. So
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to miss him. But that was a
Speaker 1: really touching special tribute. Imagine imagine I set that up
Speaker 1: and AGA was just like, well, he never introduced himself
Speaker 1: to me. Well, he never introduced himself to me, so
Speaker 1: so I can't comment whatever you need to say about
Speaker 1: the piece. And then I guess we're gonna go into
Speaker 1: my whole culture thing here. He actually never introduced himself
Speaker 1: to me, so so I just I was reading everyone
Speaker 1: else's tributes and I said, okay, okay, they knew him
Speaker 1: literally laughing. Um, okay, bout Bowen. It's time for you
Speaker 1: to ask the question of King. This is the question
Speaker 1: that we have to ask King, which is King, what
Speaker 1: is the culture that made you say culture is for me?
Speaker 1: This is the culture that really pivoted your life into
Speaker 1: a cultural direction. You said, I want to be a
Speaker 1: part of culture. I think the real moment was the
Speaker 1: I can't say a day nor a time, but an
Speaker 1: era the bad Boy by Entertainment era Kim and the
Speaker 1: remix of crush On You with all the colors, the
Speaker 1: blue wig, the red wig, the yellow with the matching furs.
Speaker 1: I was, I believe, at that point, eight years old,
Speaker 1: a young thought, if you will. And I was a
Speaker 1: young thought, and I was just like, yes, I want
Speaker 1: to bumble with the bee huh, but that's from all
Speaker 1: about the Benjamin's remix. But crush on You. She that
Speaker 1: the colors and that popped. She was such a badass
Speaker 1: bully herself. And that's when I said, And just that
Speaker 1: entire era, the Mace, the Diddy, I mean at times
Speaker 1: Loon was part of it. Mary J. Blige was part
Speaker 1: of Faith Evans. That whole conglomerate was just like, yes,
Speaker 1: culture is for me, culturist for me. Hardcore is an
Speaker 1: album that is like all killer, no filler, no skips,
Speaker 1: no damn skips, big Mama thing on hardcore, Like do
Speaker 1: I remember, truly I was. I guess I was comparatively
Speaker 1: comparatively late to the game with Lo Kim and what
Speaker 1: we can get to the rest of Bad Boy, but
Speaker 1: with Little Kim. The first time I remember the first time.
Speaker 1: I do remember the day in the place in the
Speaker 1: time that I was first introduced to Lot Kim, which
Speaker 1: was which was the Lady Marmaland video, and I was like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is that? And like was just obsessed
Speaker 1: and it just because back then, like no one was
Speaker 1: doing what she was doing, Like I mean on red
Speaker 1: carpets for sure, but even just in terms of like
Speaker 1: overt sexuality, it was like no one was on that level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and even before that, the titty out at the freaking
Speaker 1: I mean yes, the pasty she put on the map
Speaker 1: she put and I leave Diddy's um, Missa Hilton, who
Speaker 1: has didd he's one of Diddy's baby Mama's styled little kid.
Speaker 1: It's like the most iconic things she's done and that
Speaker 1: would forever go down in history the way she dressed her,
Speaker 1: So you know, she really does like get lost in
Speaker 1: the conversation. And that was why I think people are
Speaker 1: always like, why are these female rappers coming for each other?
Speaker 1: It's like because you all move on and don't pay respect,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's like the way that women get
Speaker 1: it in general, it's like people just move on and
Speaker 1: when once they turned forty or whatever. Historically, it's like
Speaker 1: with rappers, it's even worse because it's like you like,
Speaker 1: it really feel sometimes like or has historically like there
Speaker 1: could only be one, and I feel like that gets
Speaker 1: into their heads because there is truth behind it, and
Speaker 1: that's why the feuds pop off. And the thing is
Speaker 1: and I and I wish there's such power now and
Speaker 1: not like subs gribing to that way of thought that
Speaker 1: there could only be one. And yes, the first a
Speaker 1: long time that just was the sort of the case,
Speaker 1: the same where it could only be one minority on
Speaker 1: a TV show or what have you. But it's not
Speaker 1: that's not the case anymore. So to see female rappers
Speaker 1: not like big epping each other is truly devastating, detrimental,
Speaker 1: and I think takes us back quite a bit in
Speaker 1: a way. We don't need, we don't need for that
Speaker 1: to be the case. But I low Kim, Yeah, she
Speaker 1: all with all due respect because I'm like she that's
Speaker 1: like that overt sexuality, the crass nature of her lyrics,
Speaker 1: all of that, I'm like, you have to give it
Speaker 1: up to her, Yes, iconic her and Biggie having like
Speaker 1: recording themselves having sex or it was just a skit
Speaker 1: on Biggie's first album. Yeah, but I remember listening to
Speaker 1: that like as a teenager and being like, oh, Mike,
Speaker 1: that's and like someone was like that's a little Kim
Speaker 1: and I was like what. And then that opened up
Speaker 1: like she was like the entry point into like Biggie
Speaker 1: and and and Diddy and like I just and all
Speaker 1: of that, like like for for from a queer perspective
Speaker 1: or just from like another perspective, like she was like
Speaker 1: the person who like shepherded you into into all of that.
Speaker 1: And now it's like and then you like gain an
Speaker 1: appreciation for like the whole collective of people that was,
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful. It is, it's so special. I you know.
Speaker 1: Some there's also this thing that like bad Boy ruined
Speaker 1: some careers as well, which I find to be funny
Speaker 1: and like mildly true because Diddy's was always most concerned
Speaker 1: with Diddy, which can often be human nature. Right. Um,
Speaker 1: but uh, that entire, I mean that entire, So many
Speaker 1: of them that don't even make music anymore. I mean
Speaker 1: there's there's I Need a Girl Part one in Part
Speaker 1: two there's two parts to part. We don't even know
Speaker 1: where Loon is. I feel like I will google, like
Speaker 1: randomly google people from that time that and like where
Speaker 1: are they now? And I think Lun might be in
Speaker 1: jail or he got me got in trouble for smuggling
Speaker 1: some stuff. I do know that at some point what
Speaker 1: happened to Mace. Mace became a pastor and then he yeah,
Speaker 1: Mace became a pastor. He I don't believe he's still
Speaker 1: a pastor, but recently he was. Um months ago, I
Speaker 1: had read something about him being like did he give
Speaker 1: me either money or my master's like of his music
Speaker 1: or something? It was one or the other. Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it might not be all family spirit right now. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know that it is. But I did
Speaker 1: see did he go live yesterday? And he played Been
Speaker 1: around the World remixed with Mace and him and he
Speaker 1: because it was requested by A Rod and j Low
Speaker 1: with him. Wow, Oh my god, wow didn't even Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was no couple bigger No. I was like, is
Speaker 1: there chemistry? What's he? Yeah? But it was fine. A
Speaker 1: Rod was present and then he left at some point,
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, and then he left them alone to
Speaker 1: have a conversation to catch up. I will never forget
Speaker 1: that night that they got arrested, the two of them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is like them up. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it really was. I forget exactly what went down, but
Speaker 1: I remember it was like Jennifer Lopez at that time
Speaker 1: was really on the up and up, like she was
Speaker 1: like becoming it. Like I don't know if this was
Speaker 1: right or it was right around the time she dropped
Speaker 1: on the six and like her movie career was popping off.
Speaker 1: And then I remember they had like something happened and
Speaker 1: it was sting at the shoot up in the club
Speaker 1: and they're like, honestly, his entourage pulled a gun out
Speaker 1: or yeah, yep, that's what it was. And you know
Speaker 1: who took the fall for that as um Shine? Oh um,
Speaker 1: what's up? Shine? Bonnie and Clyde was his song, right,
Speaker 1: but no Bonnie and Shine oh something like that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he took the fall. He went to he went to
Speaker 1: um prison. But j Lo I think that was her
Speaker 1: moment where she's like, you were going to funk up
Speaker 1: my life if this is the company, you know, I
Speaker 1: think we're done here, and she got arrested. She did.
Speaker 1: They both arrested. She was coughed, coughed and was Yeah
Speaker 1: she actually had experience and hustlers. She drew from that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, bad Boy was so iconic and made some
Speaker 1: of my favorite music. And the thing is, I think
Speaker 1: I now am such a sucker for sample songs because
Speaker 1: because of Bad Boys, so much of their music was
Speaker 1: sampled at like the production of it was a sample
Speaker 1: music and it turned me into this person who's like,
Speaker 1: I love a samplessage now I also love oldies as
Speaker 1: a result. Remember the song um Ghetto Superstar, it was
Speaker 1: od b MA was like Maya's Maya's introduction. Yes, I remember.
Speaker 1: I was so gagged, like ten years later when I
Speaker 1: found out that was an island in the stream. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was my Ghetto Superstar. Originally I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton and yeah on the stream, I was like
Speaker 1: what You're like, what is this? I was like, you're
Speaker 1: telling me this is some Kenny Rogers Dolly partnership and
Speaker 1: it's up in this Ode Beamer Maya song. Crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, I had those moments still or
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yes, my ship is about to come
Speaker 1: on when I'm listening to the radio or something when
Speaker 1: am I listen to radio but like a movie and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, this is my ship. And then I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't know this this is the
Speaker 1: original of that song. I didn't no Shaka Khans through
Speaker 1: the Wire, I mean through the Fire. I only knew
Speaker 1: Kanye West through the Wire. And then I heard through
Speaker 1: the Fire and I was like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: moment that was That was me for Touch the Sky
Speaker 1: Kanye West, and then um, move on up, Like I
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, Like yes, this is I mean
Speaker 1: like Kanye I guess was kind of the spiritual successor
Speaker 1: to all that. But it was like yes, like like
Speaker 1: a thing where people like us to learn about the
Speaker 1: thing and we kind of like that is the sennector
Speaker 1: key for the other I don't know, it's it's it's great. Also,
Speaker 1: you have to say bad Boy and Diddy providing the
Speaker 1: best years of making the band. Oh my gosh, they're
Speaker 1: bringing making the band back by the wedding, didn't they haven't.
Speaker 1: They tried to bring it back so many times apparently
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, they well now I don't know
Speaker 1: that they are because they were having auditions in the
Speaker 1: before the pandemic hit, so maybe that's on pause, but
Speaker 1: I think they're serious about but making the band was
Speaker 1: my ship. When he made them go get the cheesecake,
Speaker 1: I was I could not believe he made them walk
Speaker 1: to get cheesecake from Junior And I was like, do
Speaker 1: you really want this? Do you really want this career?
Speaker 1: If you really want it, you're walking get the cheesecake.
Speaker 1: Tru so abusive. I was this to the Danny Kane girls,
Speaker 1: who was this too? This was to like the hip
Speaker 1: hop arm trying to think, Oh, you just said the
Speaker 1: word Babs and blew my mind. Do you remember Mysterious? Wait?
Speaker 1: She was like the she was like the sort of
Speaker 1: like uh plus sized girl in the group, or maybe
Speaker 1: she almost made the group and her name was Mysterious
Speaker 1: and she like didn't end up making it to the end.
Speaker 1: But girl, that was a good season of TV. That
Speaker 1: was good, funny. Bab okay, Babs, Babs. The biggest moment
Speaker 1: from it was Babs Ness and Fred who were in
Speaker 1: the band with her. We're going to fight and then
Speaker 1: Franzworth Bentley was at the house and going to break
Speaker 1: up the fight and then she was just like let them,
Speaker 1: let them fight, like her thing being like they need
Speaker 1: to have this fight. It's it's gonna be cathartic for
Speaker 1: both of them. Let this will be the thing that
Speaker 1: finally squashes their beef. Please do not break up this
Speaker 1: physical altercation. It's gonna save us, all um. And then
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. Babs literally called daban d A
Speaker 1: B A n D. That's what they would always say. Ye, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: that's exactly how they went on one of six in
Speaker 1: parking and throw themselves. It's the d A B A
Speaker 1: N D and they all sit down. Um. It was like,
Speaker 1: I have the wikipedia up. Sarah Stokes was the same,
Speaker 1: by the way, I just need to touch on that
Speaker 1: seemed innocent as all hell. I think like stabbed her okay,
Speaker 1: stabbed her husband like years like ten years ago. Like
Speaker 1: if you look there, where is Sara Stokes now? You
Speaker 1: will find that something happened. She was arrested for something.
Speaker 1: Then there was Babs, Freddie p Chopper and Dilon Diilon
Speaker 1: who I swear on the first season his name was
Speaker 1: Dylan and then he came back the second season Dion
Speaker 1: and I spit hot fire and I'm like, where did
Speaker 1: the accent? I don't remember you having an accent, and
Speaker 1: I remember your name being Dylan. He found the accent
Speaker 1: that Halle Berry lost an X men the Shade I found.
Speaker 1: I pulled up something on their Stokes. Are we ready? Okay?
Speaker 1: We sent? Is already insane and so cruel. Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go. Sarah Stokes, loosely termed quote unquote star of
Speaker 1: MTVS making the band The Shade, was arrested after stabbing
Speaker 1: her husband Tony several times in full view of their
Speaker 1: three children. All like, not like that, right, that girl,
Speaker 1: she just had a healthy mix and was going about
Speaker 1: her business. She compartmentalized that ship. She did. I said, well, Sarah, Sarah,
Speaker 1: he said, I knew you had it in the bird
Speaker 1: he was. And then fonds Worth Bentley, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: saw him at the airport recently, like with his wife.
Speaker 1: Where were we were at the airport? Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I saw Fonds with Bentley, and I'm like, your
Speaker 1: whole persona has changed because he was like a hop
Speaker 1: skippy umbrella holding bright color where yeah, he seemed normal
Speaker 1: as hell. The last saw I'm like two months ago.
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, you seem normal. I don't. That was
Speaker 1: a whole stick like a thing. I have so much
Speaker 1: to thank Diddy for and I mean really changed my
Speaker 1: entire my childhood. I have a picture of a little
Speaker 1: Kim on my wall in my office where to confirm, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's whatever is the is the poster from. I think
Speaker 1: it's from hardcore. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hardcore.
Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes it can be a little tough to
Speaker 1: seek him now, just because I think that the industry
Speaker 1: and the years get cruel to people that that are
Speaker 1: from that generation. Like think about it, like if you
Speaker 1: were famous in the nineties, if you were major famous
Speaker 1: in the nineties and like involved in like the tabloid
Speaker 1: of it all and the major fame of it all,
Speaker 1: very few of them are like still uh hanging in
Speaker 1: there in a cool way. And she was on UM
Speaker 1: the Tyler Henry Hollywood medium. Do you know about this?
Speaker 1: He's he is a twink psychic who was able to
Speaker 1: talk to um people who have passed on, and he
Speaker 1: has celebrities, And the whole bit is he doesn't know
Speaker 1: any of the celebrities until they arrive. So but she
Speaker 1: came to his house and she walked in and he
Speaker 1: was like, I immediately knew who this was. And so
Speaker 1: she sat down and they have this whole conversation where
Speaker 1: he's like connecting with people who have crossed over from
Speaker 1: her life, and you, as the viewer, are just waiting
Speaker 1: for being you to come up. Yeah, and he comes up.
Speaker 1: He does so basically they're they're they're going to commercial,
Speaker 1: and then he goes, is there anything else that you
Speaker 1: want to know about about Biggie because it's clear that
Speaker 1: she really wanted to connect with him, and she just goes, well,
Speaker 1: I think everyone would want to know who shot him.
Speaker 1: And then they cut the commercial and you think for
Speaker 1: a second that this that this show starring a blonde twink,
Speaker 1: it's gonna reveal the answer to who shot Diggy shot
Speaker 1: And they come back and he's like, okay, cool, definitely
Speaker 1: can answer that absolutely, and he's like scribbling in his
Speaker 1: book and then all of a sudden looks up and
Speaker 1: he goes, huh, because it's all his whole thing. She
Speaker 1: just goes huh, Okay, interesting, okay, huh. And then she
Speaker 1: said she's like what and he's like, well, he says
Speaker 1: that it was definitely someone that some people that he
Speaker 1: knew also knew wow, and she goes, she goes, she goes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Yes, that makes so much sense because
Speaker 1: he actually brought us into the recording studio and he
Speaker 1: said that he thought something was going to go down.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, yeah, so so there you go.
Speaker 1: What she was like, thank you you helped me. I
Speaker 1: said wow. I said wow. I said wow, Kim, I
Speaker 1: said wow. And Sir Medium, I absolutely said that had
Speaker 1: to have been a produced thing where they were like,
Speaker 1: okay and caim, this is where you kind of set
Speaker 1: up the like the act break. She was fully getting
Speaker 1: her check on that episode. She was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: what do I have to say? Where my scene behind
Speaker 1: the scene of that conversation that called to her to
Speaker 1: be like you can you will you do this? Also
Speaker 1: about this, he was like Tyler Henry, Tyllywood, Tyler Henry
Speaker 1: Hollywood Medium Twink psychic k was, which is what I
Speaker 1: call him, was telling her like, Okay, so I'm connected
Speaker 1: with him and he wants me to know. He wants
Speaker 1: you to know flat out that you were the love
Speaker 1: of his life. And she was like really, oh my god, yes,
Speaker 1: I wanted and then and then I was he was
Speaker 1: famously married to Faith Evans still very much that still
Speaker 1: alive and probably watching married to Stevie Jane now, which
Speaker 1: is a real twist. I don't know it's somebody from
Speaker 1: Love and hip hop. I don't watch some hip hop,
Speaker 1: but I know he's like I always hear his name
Speaker 1: in relation to it, and so he is a main
Speaker 1: player on love and hip Well, speaking of love and
Speaker 1: hip hop, like Cardi B and we were talking about before,
Speaker 1: how they don't it's tough for them to like show
Speaker 1: each other love now just because of how competitive it is.
Speaker 1: She really is on her Instagram shouting out other female rappers,
Speaker 1: shouting out young talents. She really is, like I remember,
Speaker 1: I chucked out a few of the people that she
Speaker 1: was talking about because she I think realizes that she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to turn intoto Cki Minaj and I respect
Speaker 1: the queen, but but but I think that you know,
Speaker 1: Nikki being the sort of Cardi B of her situation
Speaker 1: with Kim has now. Really I think that Cardi b
Speaker 1: reckoned as a cycle. Yeah, I'm glad. I mean I
Speaker 1: really love Cardi. So I really really love Cardi and
Speaker 1: I did see her shout out those female rappers I'm
Speaker 1: curious because I know Megan and Nikki apparently are friendly,
Speaker 1: and I've never seen like the Cardian Megan, Like, are
Speaker 1: they cool or not cool? What's that interest? We're not
Speaker 1: big uping, We're not big upping Megan. So I'm but
Speaker 1: I am happy that Cardi is trying making some effort,
Speaker 1: some some public effort to be supportive. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Megan seems to not want to get in the fray
Speaker 1: too much, just in terms of the beef of it all.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like she, like saw the
Speaker 1: Nikki thing is like a way too. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it's it's not transactional. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm just I just think that
Speaker 1: Megan is like being very tactful and strategic about this
Speaker 1: whole thing, and she she just seems like she's someone
Speaker 1: who probably doesn't want to start too much craziness either around.
Speaker 1: She hasn't even really begun yet. I mean, like it's
Speaker 1: just now that the you know it, probably rap fans
Speaker 1: haven'tone about her from for quite a while, but like
Speaker 1: in terms of the general public, she's just now reaching
Speaker 1: the surface of people really getting to know Megan the stallion,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, it's the fact that
Speaker 1: she even has to like deal like with with people
Speaker 1: waiting for the next big feud is like such a
Speaker 1: shame to deal with that. Yeah yeah, yeah were you?
Speaker 1: Were you a big Are you a big fan as
Speaker 1: well of Megan? I do love Megan Big Old Freak
Speaker 1: is like, it's a sample song. We know how I
Speaker 1: feel about sample songs. Um and she she's got a
Speaker 1: good flow, and I do I love Megan. And when
Speaker 1: we met her at the show, she's cool, she's shows sweet.
Speaker 1: But you know, Megan, this stuying. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is in fact a stallion. When you that's a stallion,
Speaker 1: that is that is a full woman. He was the
Speaker 1: most beautiful person ever. And then I've never seen sam
Speaker 1: J more into someone. Yeah, Sam Jay was like god, yeah,
Speaker 1: sam J was on this show about to pop off
Speaker 1: on Megan about Megan being like, this is the most
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in the world. She could make you could
Speaker 1: make you jump into very very dangerous oceans. Yeah, blazing fires,
Speaker 1: blazing fires. Ago was I with you a good nights
Speaker 1: when Chance hosted because I talked to Megan A good
Speaker 1: nights I saw you talked to her. I think we
Speaker 1: hugged and then maybe Megan came and you were like, okay,
Speaker 1: fuck off, bitch, don't mean. And then he was like,
Speaker 1: I'll see you on see you at the after party,
Speaker 1: see it there. Maybe there, I have to let me
Speaker 1: talk to him. But I did see you talk to
Speaker 1: I think it was was it you and Chloe? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was me and Chloe and she was just like
Speaker 1: we were like we're like we love you so much
Speaker 1: and thank you for doing this. And she was like
Speaker 1: I was watching from the dressing room and I was like,
Speaker 1: that looks fun. I want to do that. But that's
Speaker 1: how she No, that's not yet, Meg, I mean, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of good. I was like that that feels.
Speaker 1: I don't know the way shebbly voice, because you think
Speaker 1: that sounded listening to her music, you would think her
Speaker 1: voice is like deep and stallionesque, and and interviews she's
Speaker 1: like very like bubbly and like bright. Yeah, she's right
Speaker 1: and ubbly. And she had her southern twang too, you
Speaker 1: know yeah Texas. And he was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: what is she saying and he was like, well, she
Speaker 1: was like this, Yeah, I want to do that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like that your is that actually how she talks
Speaker 1: exactly how this sus out. It's exactly how she fun big.
Speaker 1: She she I just reasonally saw a video of her
Speaker 1: talking about fighting, like girls fighting, and she was like
Speaker 1: hell no, oh yeah, it was a pitchfork thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's very funny. It was very funny, good free. She's like,
Speaker 1: nails cost too much. It all is like that, okay,
Speaker 1: But the three of us are also like, we're also
Speaker 1: like Nikki, We're all I'm a I'm a bar I'm
Speaker 1: a bar but Barb. I need Barb to be kinder
Speaker 1: to Belle Cully's elements are, Yeah, I need Barbed to
Speaker 1: be a little kinder because it's just not becoming to be.
Speaker 1: But I don't know the deets, right, so like I
Speaker 1: don't want to like chime in and be like this
Speaker 1: is what you should be doing or how you should
Speaker 1: be handling it, because I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: behind the storms. But anytime she goes on like Queen
Speaker 1: Radio and just kind of like goes off, You're like this,
Speaker 1: this feels this sounds chaotic because I think she and
Speaker 1: the kind of what we have loved about her is
Speaker 1: that she is this very like diffusely chaotic person, and
Speaker 1: so you're just kind of like you can't really as
Speaker 1: like as like a fan, I can't really latch on
Speaker 1: anything she's saying. When she's like trying to like defend herself,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, but what what does this even mean?
Speaker 1: I think she's confused about what people want from her.
Speaker 1: And I also think that she pretends to be unbothered
Speaker 1: when she's really kind of bothered. And I think that she, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you've never really had to in the beginnings
Speaker 1: of her career, her first several albums, you never really
Speaker 1: had to worry about, like, um, her being on the
Speaker 1: defensive because she always has seemed so invincible. And I
Speaker 1: think that people just are not kind to women, and
Speaker 1: especially Black women over time, especially when you do have
Speaker 1: a shiny, new young thing, even though they are literally
Speaker 1: so different, and I never think when I'm listening to
Speaker 1: one comparing them to the other. It's just literally in
Speaker 1: terms of content, it's different in terms of like style,
Speaker 1: it's different delivery, it's different type of music, it's different background, influence,
Speaker 1: all different. So for me, it's like I think that
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the call is coming from inside
Speaker 1: the house. The monster is within with her. Because you know,
Speaker 1: the music didn't get worse. It's still good. I mean,
Speaker 1: her albums are still good. And I think if there
Speaker 1: if there's one thing that's not happening with Nikki, it's
Speaker 1: that she doesn't really deliver you pop singles anymore. But
Speaker 1: that's because everyone got at her for doing pop singles.
Speaker 1: I mean, and like, it is so much more difficult
Speaker 1: to be someone who's crossing over from rap because you
Speaker 1: do the pop singles because you can do it. I mean,
Speaker 1: she had bops on bops like super Base and Starships
Speaker 1: and I mean, what have you Pound the Alarm? All
Speaker 1: these songs that had amazing pop books, and she was
Speaker 1: a very good pop star. But then people are so
Speaker 1: much harder from her from by all angles because she
Speaker 1: loses quote unquote credibility because she is who she is
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. And I think she
Speaker 1: has just gotten in her head to a point where
Speaker 1: it's just like hopefully not the point of no return.
Speaker 1: But you add Cardi in the mix there and it
Speaker 1: was like just a bad mix of things for her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great diagnosis. Actually, I'm like, you're like, yikes, yikes,
Speaker 1: which is like not a pop but it's it's so good.
Speaker 1: Could not stop playing it when I heard it. Um,
Speaker 1: I do think that she she is trying to balance
Speaker 1: like that street credit because she's feels she's trying to
Speaker 1: hold onto that while maybe uh, Cardi b as kind
Speaker 1: of taking grab of that. But there's but there's enough
Speaker 1: to go around. We have hundreds of male rappers, um,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we can have hundreds of female rappers.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's you know, but absolutely, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it might not be like like all like Max Martin
Speaker 1: sample like Max Martin produced ship, but it's still really good.
Speaker 1: And I mean, the thing is to it, it really
Speaker 1: does all can be boiled down to sexism. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: she also fell into the wrong side of a like
Speaker 1: sort of dichotomy, the trope, which is Cardia is a
Speaker 1: nice person and Nikki is a mean person. And so
Speaker 1: you have your good verse evil narrative. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, people like whether or not it's true,
Speaker 1: and you do hear things about like the way Nicky behaves,
Speaker 1: but it's something that we all used to embrace her for.
Speaker 1: And now because we have something else where, like, never mind,
Speaker 1: she's mean and not a good person. Meanwhile, we used
Speaker 1: to love when she would say bosst up. We used
Speaker 1: to love when she would point out, like how people
Speaker 1: in her industry behaved that way and look the other
Speaker 1: way when there are men like we used to love
Speaker 1: that about her, And I feel like people are now
Speaker 1: conveniently deciding to move on. It's it's yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: shame because she is the queen. Yeah, I gotta give her,
Speaker 1: gotta give her her props. And no one's funnier either.
Speaker 1: You said, no one's funnier, No one's funnier. So Nikki
Speaker 1: that Anika. I think she's so funny to see see
Speaker 1: this is where you lose me, Matt. I mean in
Speaker 1: the I mean in the reps themselves. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Comedian because I think Cardi hilarious, is so fucking funny,
Speaker 1: like I could name. When I first discovered her Instagram
Speaker 1: years ago, I sat and I just I went down
Speaker 1: a rabbit hole. I was like, everything is so funny.
Speaker 1: And one that sticks out to me from the last
Speaker 1: one year and a half, maybe even two year, is
Speaker 1: at this point is her when people see her at Target.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that vide where she's like, if you
Speaker 1: see me at Target, like, don't come up to me,
Speaker 1: yell like talking about what am I doing to Target?
Speaker 1: The same thing you're doing stealing? You know that talk
Speaker 1: show what it's called. It's called wash Poppingppy. She's going
Speaker 1: to do it from her bed. Oh my god, perfect.
Speaker 1: I love Literally if they're paying her a billion dollars
Speaker 1: for that, I have a bed talking now, I feel
Speaker 1: like Muscht change it. If Cardi is doing and talk
Speaker 1: show from her bad I got to think of something now.
Speaker 1: But Cardi is Cardi. There's so many queens in the queendom,
Speaker 1: and there's several kings in the kingdom. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of but not everybody is royalty. Sometimes friends will be like, girl,
Speaker 1: you don't need him, you're the prize. Sometimes I hear
Speaker 1: it with people and I go, she's you're a good friend. Actually,
Speaker 1: you're a good friend. Actually actually actually, Now, all this
Speaker 1: culture spilleth over and we are at that point where
Speaker 1: we gotta do I don't think so, honey. Now, Ego
Speaker 1: actually has graced us with her presence at our live shows,
Speaker 1: and speaking of live shows, bitch, I feel like we
Speaker 1: are itching and scratching to do another live show, but
Speaker 1: you know, the quarantine makes it very difficult. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this poem, yes, about how I'm craving the
Speaker 1: live experience. I was thinking about it before this, and like,
Speaker 1: how fun that was a true blast. We might have
Speaker 1: to do something virtual, and we might have to feature King.
Speaker 1: We might have to feature I mean, King is willing,
Speaker 1: and I feel like if you did something virtual, the
Speaker 1: numbers would be popping. It's all And ultimately it's numbers
Speaker 1: because numbers. Let me tell you something, people do things
Speaker 1: virtually too little to say to a small audience. Okay,
Speaker 1: and that's okay, that's fault. That's nobody's fault, because honestly,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is if you were bringing joy to
Speaker 1: one person, corny as it may be the job, you're
Speaker 1: doing your job, so um, but this is one if
Speaker 1: you were to do live, I do believe would be
Speaker 1: people would be hungering. And I think we all have things,
Speaker 1: even the quarantine souls of comedians are desperate to rant
Speaker 1: about things right now. We are because I actually but
Speaker 1: I got one. I had was like she had options, Okay,
Speaker 1: I had a list Anny. Okay, King is the funniest
Speaker 1: I gotta say that. Wait, hold on one thing that
Speaker 1: King did. Speaking of quarantine content, the one of the
Speaker 1: highlights of Quarantine so far from me has been when
Speaker 1: King and Heidie Gardner did an Instagram live Home Shopping
Speaker 1: Network bet and they were playing the two characters and
Speaker 1: at one point this made me howl in my damn apartment.
Speaker 1: At one point, Um, they're just they're dispandering in between
Speaker 1: items products, and then Heidi's like, um, what was your
Speaker 1: what was your characters name? Again? My character's name was
Speaker 1: Justina Pinch Justina Justina. If you if you weren't working
Speaker 1: on Home Shopping Network, what would you be doing? What
Speaker 1: would your job be? And then who goes I would
Speaker 1: be a thief. I would be a thief man. That
Speaker 1: was fun. I would be a thief. That would be
Speaker 1: a thief. Yes, I don't want to work. That's the reality.
Speaker 1: You don't really want to work. King called in and
Speaker 1: that was so fun. And I feel like more things
Speaker 1: like that should happen. And what I predict will be
Speaker 1: another eight weeks of quarantine. I had I have to
Speaker 1: ask for your forgiveness because O King was really considering
Speaker 1: leaving me or no, no, no, this is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like myself. King was considering leaving New York City in
Speaker 1: the early weeks of quarantine, and and she was like
Speaker 1: really stressing out, and she was like, I should go
Speaker 1: to l A and be with myself. Is it okay,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this, Yes, this is great. Okay. She
Speaker 1: was like, I should be with my sister. My sister
Speaker 1: at the house in l A. I should go to
Speaker 1: l A like this is the first week, and then
Speaker 1: I and then how He's like, you know, I was
Speaker 1: talking to go today and she's she's not sure what
Speaker 1: to do. And I was like, okay. I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: well then I'll reach out and he and I basically
Speaker 1: convinced you to stay in New York because I was like,
Speaker 1: this won't go on for more than like two or three.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I blame myself. No, But King, heres
Speaker 1: the thing? Do you blame you? No? King? The thing
Speaker 1: is that, um uh, this was the right choice. I
Speaker 1: did not think so like, no, it was. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying even saying that to make you feel better.
Speaker 1: It is that it is the correct choice. I have
Speaker 1: my own space and I am like, I'm not in
Speaker 1: anyone's way. No one's in my way. I'm not sick
Speaker 1: of anyone. I it's just me and and I have
Speaker 1: all my stuff, so much stuff, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: go to l A and like in a panic and
Speaker 1: like packed, and my whole thing was like, I'm gonna pack.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be second home. Eventually LA is gonna get
Speaker 1: locked down two. So I'm gonna pack five sweatshirts and
Speaker 1: five pairs of pants and underwear and that's all I'll need.
Speaker 1: I won't even make up. So that's what I was, like,
Speaker 1: losing it met Do you understand I'm just gonna get
Speaker 1: who wouldn't be? But like the idea that I thought,
Speaker 1: like I was going to be content with five sweatshirts,
Speaker 1: I like that was my plan because I had I
Speaker 1: had it packed, I had booked a flight. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, if I'm gonna go, I'll decide in
Speaker 1: the morning on the day of the flight. And then
Speaker 1: I and I was like, I haven't done anything. But
Speaker 1: what will happen is once I do make up my
Speaker 1: mind when I wake up, that's all I'll do. It
Speaker 1: won't even require any thought. Five sweatshirts, five pants. You
Speaker 1: go to l A, you're gonna be stuck in the
Speaker 1: house anyway, So fucking glad I did not. Really, Yes,
Speaker 1: I wish if I owned a house there. Personally, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, absolutely I want to be because for space
Speaker 1: and just air. But otherwise I'm like, yeah, there, and
Speaker 1: I have found guys, this is maybe too much hard.
Speaker 1: There is no right choice besides being like considered of
Speaker 1: others and just staying the hell inside if you're not
Speaker 1: a essential worker um and practicing physical distancing. There is
Speaker 1: no right answer and nobody, no one knew where to
Speaker 1: turn as far as like I can't go ask my
Speaker 1: grandmother or my aunt, my great aunt or my honor
Speaker 1: my mom because like you had this experience when you
Speaker 1: were younger, because no, they didn't, like, no one knew,
Speaker 1: No one could say to you, this is where you're
Speaker 1: gonna feel more comfortable. It's such a like personal decision.
Speaker 1: And similarly, someone else in our cast it called uh.
Speaker 1: After I talked to bow in like a week and
Speaker 1: a half later, I was like, what do I do?
Speaker 1: Do I leave? Do I? Oh? Do I stay? And
Speaker 1: I was like, I have found that it is I
Speaker 1: know the I know what you're feeling and the desire
Speaker 1: to call and ask people their opinions, and we want
Speaker 1: someone to be able to tell us what to do,
Speaker 1: but no one can and it's simply a personal decision.
Speaker 1: So you know, I just think, like, ultimately what I
Speaker 1: love hearing, and I do wake up every day and
Speaker 1: try to look on the positive of this. I try
Speaker 1: while I understand there's not anything that's inherently we're not
Speaker 1: better off because of this. I I what I like
Speaker 1: reminding myself is I actually am very thankful for that.
Speaker 1: Every now and then we will get a positive news
Speaker 1: article that's like, hey guys, it's working. The projections of
Speaker 1: deaths across the country are way down from what they
Speaker 1: were because of what we're doing. And I think that
Speaker 1: people really respond to being told that what we're doing
Speaker 1: is working, because I think that for so long there
Speaker 1: it was just a lot of doom in gloom where
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like it's gonna get worse, it's gonna
Speaker 1: get worse and no one knows and Trump's an idiot
Speaker 1: and etcetera, etcetera, where it really fell like a true
Speaker 1: bottomless pit of despair. And what has really helped me
Speaker 1: is seeing like, I will give my I will give
Speaker 1: my props to Cuomo and say that he has been
Speaker 1: very realistic and very even handed about the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and very unemotional about the whole thing, and I have
Speaker 1: really appreciated him being like, the social distancing is working.
Speaker 1: If we keep going at this rate, we won't have
Speaker 1: as calamitous a result as we may have, because I
Speaker 1: think that we need hope, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: People need that. And I meant to do this on
Speaker 1: the last episode, but I just want to say to
Speaker 1: everyone that is listening to this podcast right now, and
Speaker 1: I will get real. I understand that it is so
Speaker 1: hard to be by yourself, and it is so difficult,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are not made for this,
Speaker 1: to be by yourself all the time and to be
Speaker 1: feeling like you lost your routine. A lot of people
Speaker 1: they keep their sanity because of their routine. And I
Speaker 1: just want everyone listening to this if you were having
Speaker 1: a hard time, just give yourself a hug and tell
Speaker 1: yourself it's gonna be okay. And if we could help
Speaker 1: for even this ninety minutes that we're doing this, that rocks.
Speaker 1: There's stuff that you can do just try to take
Speaker 1: it day by day and give yourself a break and
Speaker 1: eat that thing that you don't want to eat. And
Speaker 1: if you feel like you're eating too many things you
Speaker 1: don't want to eat, then don't. And just know that
Speaker 1: we love you and it's it's gonna We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the end. Just stay doing the right thing. I
Speaker 1: know it's hard, we all know it is so hard,
Speaker 1: but keep your head up. It's not the end of
Speaker 1: the world. It's really not. Yeah, And in a way
Speaker 1: I mean that that that that's a really helpful way
Speaker 1: of framing it, which is that like in some real
Speaker 1: literal way, like, uh, people are alive who right now
Speaker 1: who wouldn't be had we not change your behavior on
Speaker 1: an individual level, And you're doing the truly the heroic
Speaker 1: thing is to be staying home right now and doing
Speaker 1: exactly what you're doing. And I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: because a lot of people, you know, they've been reaching
Speaker 1: out and I'm sure that you guys were reached out
Speaker 1: to about the SNL episode that you did that meant
Speaker 1: a lot to people. And I think that we need
Speaker 1: to stay as connected as possible. So I know that
Speaker 1: not everyone has a lot of social outlets and you're
Speaker 1: having to stay home. My heart goes out to everyone,
Speaker 1: and we are all in this together, babe and I.
Speaker 1: We will get to the end. Winston Churchill drag. Yes,
Speaker 1: I loved everything, and I co sign all of it.
Speaker 1: We love that. At this time, it is time for
Speaker 1: the Kings to actually do a royal version of I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think royal version. I can
Speaker 1: go first. If bone will be so kind, I I
Speaker 1: will let you go first. Okay, so this is Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers is royal. I don't think so, honey. As time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so honey. Zoom fuck this.
Speaker 1: I look like ship on zoom. Every time I see
Speaker 1: myself and the damn zoom, I feel bad that I'm
Speaker 1: on for other people because I can't stop looking at
Speaker 1: how shit ty I look. My face has looked never worse.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm looking down unto the zoom up into the zoom,
Speaker 1: I have that thing under my chin like a frog.
Speaker 1: And I don't think, so, honey, that I look like
Speaker 1: that frog over there's actually think about that thought that
Speaker 1: who over there? That frog over there is what I
Speaker 1: look like, honey. I don't think so honey, zoom. I
Speaker 1: have to be sitting around waiting for other people to
Speaker 1: finish and then give ten minutes before I can respond.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I'm someone who interacts quickly
Speaker 1: and rapidity, and I actually have to say I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, zoom, because we're on zoom for work
Speaker 1: and I cannot stay focused and it makes me feel
Speaker 1: like a bad worker. I don't think so, honey, zoom.
Speaker 1: It's a bad name. Why then is it called zoom?
Speaker 1: If I wanted to call something realistic and be I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, zoom, you should call it doom.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. Thank you think so? Call it
Speaker 1: doom instead of zoom. We should be calling especially culture
Speaker 1: number twelve, they should call it zoom. Alright, yes, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. Are you going to tip me? No? I
Speaker 1: don't have my phone, you know, Okay, I'll time myself. Okay,
Speaker 1: King is going to time me. King, King has the ability, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and starts now. I don't think so, honey. People sending
Speaker 1: me pictures of people who they think look like me,
Speaker 1: it's always just another Asian person. Maybe he's wearing glasses
Speaker 1: or they're tagging their fucking friends in the comments, and
Speaker 1: they're like, reminds me if I thought this was at
Speaker 1: Sheldon Park, Like, who stop it? Like and then we
Speaker 1: and then you're annoying me, and you're annoying the person
Speaker 1: who gets Tatoo's probably like, I actually don't look anything
Speaker 1: like that person either, Like, do not create this thing
Speaker 1: where you're like trying to graft on resemblance onto these
Speaker 1: two people who don't look alike. Girl. If I was
Speaker 1: tagging some some strain, if I was tagging this Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers too. Every time I saw a photo of average,
Speaker 1: he would he would call off the damn friendship. He
Speaker 1: would say, I don't look like Jake Sully, bitch, and
Speaker 1: then he would slap me across the damn face the
Speaker 1: next time he saw it after we got out of quarantine.
Speaker 1: So I don't think so when he stopped deting me,
Speaker 1: me me photos of people who look like me. And
Speaker 1: that's why. Man. The thing is, I do look like
Speaker 1: Jake Sully when he becomes an avatar, but I do
Speaker 1: not look like Sam Worthington, which has been I think
Speaker 1: you look like the like the you know, like the
Speaker 1: from the Gorilla from not the girl of the chimp
Speaker 1: to the human you look like in the middle zone
Speaker 1: there between Sam Worthington and Jake Sully and and the
Speaker 1: and that's good and that's not a bad place to be,
Speaker 1: a king, not a bad place to be between Sam
Speaker 1: Worthington and what her other thing in the Navy and
Speaker 1: the um I see you, I see you. To borrow
Speaker 1: a word from the language and from Miss Leona Lewis
Speaker 1: and of course Ms Joey Zoey Sell Donna herself for
Speaker 1: a moment there, Leona Lewis was set up to be
Speaker 1: the next Lean Dion. When they made her sing that song,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she's gonna be She's gonna be
Speaker 1: a huge Selene. You couldn't tell them she wasn't the
Speaker 1: next Lene. And then when she was with her girl
Speaker 1: she was in Cats a few years ago on Broadway
Speaker 1: and then Radio silence deserves. Does she did she think
Speaker 1: to herself? Did she do it to herself? That's what
Speaker 1: you have to ask that this sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of victim blaming and hearing and we're back and this
Speaker 1: is a callback, and this is a call back, And
Speaker 1: all I can say is bleeding love was the bop
Speaker 1: of the time. It really was. And then I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened after that, you had the monster hit
Speaker 1: and then goodbye Leona. Well, I think there's still like
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you who we say hello to? King. Okay, Kan,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, all time, her time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. People texting me and emailing me.
Speaker 1: It looks so crazy in New York. Here, I'm leaving it.
Speaker 1: I was having a nice day until you sent me
Speaker 1: that message and reminded me of the impending doom that
Speaker 1: lay outside my door. Yourself, Okay, if you want to
Speaker 1: ask me how I'm doing, ask me how I'm doing.
Speaker 1: If you want to send me well wishes, that is
Speaker 1: totally welcome. But you being like it's scary in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about you in New York. No, bitch, I
Speaker 1: do not think so, honey. Don't think so. You're trying
Speaker 1: to bring your emotions and making them my responsibility in
Speaker 1: my kitchen cooking biscuits, and you text me some bullshit
Speaker 1: about what's scary it is. We know it's scary, but honey,
Speaker 1: I'm inside like my ass is supposed to be doing,
Speaker 1: trying to keep my head on straight, and you bring
Speaker 1: in bullshit to my front. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Stop telling me it's crazy and York. I am physically here,
Speaker 1: I am safe, I am well, I am inside. Keep
Speaker 1: that energy to your damn self. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: And that's one very well done and topical like my asses,
Speaker 1: cooking biscuits, cooking biscuits. What's next on the biscuits and buttermel? Okay,
Speaker 1: So tonight, I'm not even gonna make biscuits because I
Speaker 1: made those Cheddar bacon Cheddar hallepeeno biscuits that were the
Speaker 1: motherfucking truth. I have one left. I ate five yesterday
Speaker 1: in one sitting. I ate three today because papusays were
Speaker 1: a flop. So I'm gonna make an olive oil cake tonight.
Speaker 1: Chocolate tonight. Wait, I gotta do a real of culture.
Speaker 1: It's it's real culture number six. My papusa. My papusas
Speaker 1: were absolute flop. I don't about the statement about it.
Speaker 1: I said, wow, to think this is actually it's a
Speaker 1: simple rest, but it is a hard to make it delicious.
Speaker 1: The funniest thing in the world to me is calling
Speaker 1: something a flop. I don't know why. It's so funny,
Speaker 1: Like like it's like someone will text me like and
Speaker 1: be shady and be like, look at this flop. Gay.
Speaker 1: Just feel like screenshot of someone's in stuff. I think
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I fall out every time, and it's
Speaker 1: the best way to describe it. Been here I will.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm tempted to show you, guys, show us
Speaker 1: the flop. Let me show you the bring the flop
Speaker 1: over to dry. I'm seeing all up to be like,
Speaker 1: where does the flavor come into play? Where where does
Speaker 1: this start? Podcast on a visual medium? And she just
Speaker 1: showed us a plate of flops. I'm serving up play
Speaker 1: the flaps over here. I said, this is the lowest
Speaker 1: I've felt in my quarantine. So tonight we're making olive
Speaker 1: oilcake because I can't I've never done it. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a citrus all of oilcake. I don't think
Speaker 1: I can sunk that up. I feel fairly, I feel
Speaker 1: fairly confident about my baking. So yeah, I feel good
Speaker 1: about what's going to go down tonight. And it's designed
Speaker 1: to be easy and like not like boys, I mean,
Speaker 1: spreaking olive oil is literally and it's going to be good.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's a cake Yeah, I really been
Speaker 1: behind on the baking. It's a cake walk baking. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but you know what, fuck no shape, king, Matt. If
Speaker 1: you're making bread, but what are we making bread? I'm
Speaker 1: not one of these white gays out here and making bread. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're a real one, then he's a Really that's
Speaker 1: the moment I foun out Matt Rodgers is in fact
Speaker 1: a real one. I understand the bread thing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: there are so many other things you could make that
Speaker 1: will be satisfying and soothing and and somehow a release
Speaker 1: for you, cathartic if you will, that aren't bread, because
Speaker 1: bread is so I don't get it. Bread don't exactly
Speaker 1: there's no novelty to the your spending a lot of time,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the process of it, but once it
Speaker 1: comes out, no matter how good it tastes, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna feel new. I don't know. Maybe I mean it's delicious.
Speaker 1: That's why. That's when people like I love bread. I'm
Speaker 1: a bread head. I'm like, bread is not delicious. Like
Speaker 1: bread's cool? Girl. If you say your favorite food is bread,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You need to get a
Speaker 1: new palette. We need to do a group. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And I think you might be very sick.
Speaker 1: You might be very, very very sick. You might be
Speaker 1: very sick with a disease. You might be ill. You
Speaker 1: might need to go to the hospital. Post taste, yes,
Speaker 1: because post taste is another thing. Post taste, let's say
Speaker 1: post taste. Like whenever something these happens, you just say
Speaker 1: pose taste. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that from you, man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're on the same page about the bread.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna make, some olive oil cake. I'll
Speaker 1: let you guys know how it goes. Please, And I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go well, because I think there is
Speaker 1: not a thing that you could touch that would not
Speaker 1: turn to gold. But have you seen this papoosa? Besides,
Speaker 1: we can move on from the papoosa's and and go forward.
Speaker 1: Now we're trying to shake out what to do with
Speaker 1: the papoosa scraps and how to not throw that all away.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no dog or animal in the house
Speaker 1: right there. That's actually good. I wish I wish I
Speaker 1: could help with the flop and eat it and not
Speaker 1: good like it just is like tasteless fop. Well is
Speaker 1: he pretending he's like I would eat it because King
Speaker 1: is my friend and I want to help the flop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have to be truthful to the friend of King.
Speaker 1: And I really fift it as the Whites would say,
Speaker 1: fift it. So this episode was King. That's why it's
Speaker 1: called This is King, and I have to say it's
Speaker 1: a to be continued because there's gonna be many more
Speaker 1: episodes with King, because it was just I feel that,
Speaker 1: while it was a very full, complete episode, that we've
Speaker 1: really breached the surface of what the three of us
Speaker 1: King can do together, truly and no, it's kin. I
Speaker 1: caught that and I loved it. The three of us
Speaker 1: King have to when King gets together. It's a real
Speaker 1: I am obsessed in l A. I have house, so
Speaker 1: and so my very dear friend and now Bowen's very
Speaker 1: dear friend, Patrick Rogers. We share the last name, and
Speaker 1: so we say we are a house. We are of house.
Speaker 1: Were of house to send handmates to very handmaids tale, Yes,
Speaker 1: but this is a whole new thing, This is King.
Speaker 1: And when when one of us does something that is King,
Speaker 1: we recognize that by saying that was very King. This
Speaker 1: is I shook, and I look forward to using the terminology.
Speaker 1: That's all I have to say about that one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say King on that one's going to have to say.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to crown that one now when King
Speaker 1: gets together again, I can't wait for the day. Me neither.
Speaker 1: I truly can't wait for the day. But for now,
Speaker 1: we have to say, this was an unbelievable episode and
Speaker 1: we want to thank EGO for being on. We love
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you, guys, I love you King.
Speaker 1: It was an absolute pleasure and a highlight of my
Speaker 1: day and perhaps my team. And this is my ye.
Speaker 1: But Bowen, you know that you know that what we do.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we do on this episode,
Speaker 1: on this really on this podcast, is we end every
Speaker 1: episode with a song. Yes we do, and I know
Speaker 1: just the song to close out on Hey stranger over there,
Speaker 1: I'm really like better it always so sorry, I'm sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: bye bye.