WEBVTT - NFC East Offseason Preview with Danny Heifetz 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.720 Wow, the NFL daily where we totally forgot President's Day 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:13.560 is a real holiday. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the garage 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.480 talking to my friend from across the country. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.239 I haven't spent a. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.639 Lot of time in real life, but I love his 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.440 work on The Ringer Fantasy Football Show. It's Danny Hifitz, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.440 also a great writer. Danny, what's happened? 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:28.800 I'm good man. How are you doing. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.880 We're just getting ready for when the President's Day is 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.640 just going to become the day after the super Bowl 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.320 and then suddenly everyone's going to get the party on 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.120 the super Bowl like it's like there's no work the 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:36.479 next day. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:37.760 So we're just kind of getting ahad of the curve. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.080 Okay, people have mentioned that, and for that to happen, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:45.519 that means the NFL has to start a week earlier, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.760 though too write or they don't add the second bye week. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.720 But I keep thinking they're going to add a second 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:52.200 bye week. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.320 That's been what it's been talked about a little bit. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.760 If you add an eighteenth game and then do we 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.720 start like Labor Day weekend weekend before rather, it would 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:03.880 cut into my US Open tennis watch and it would 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:04.959 be a little tricky. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.240 One of us is you know, a little more plugged 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.360 into the NFL than me. So, but I do think 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.320 that I know they love the starting after Labor Day, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.399 but I also know they want to make the Super 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.080 Bowl even bigger in the fact that you could make 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.360 the Super Bowl like an actual holiday. I wonder if 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.880 they kill the two week gap between the conference championships 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.759 and the super Bowl. Yes, make bring it back into 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.640 a week so that way you can add the eighteenth game. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.600 They make more money, add the second buy so the 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.119 players don't get that mad. But then you collapse that 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.840 into two week period into one week, and now the 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.520 super Bowl is the day before President's Day. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.120 Which honestly is I would always should have been. It's 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:37.720 kind of perfect. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:39.600 I am with you. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:43.640 I get why it started that way way back when 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:47.440 it's like a different media cycle, like gets everyone chance 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.760 to really crank up the game for seven days and 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.360 everyone gets in position. We're like in a different time. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.160 Football is meant to be played weekly. Everyone does those 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.480 those tweets of like, oh, it's our first Sunday with football. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.320 Chris Long had a funny video about that. It's like, no, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.720 we just had one the one Sunday before. Sorry, Pro 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.680 Bowl as my voice is already losing. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:10.519 I mean, New Orleans. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:11.040 How are you doing? 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.239 Yeah, I thought you were supposed to be immune to 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:14.560 New Orleans by now. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.880 I thought I was in better shape until starting to 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.560 talk loudly to you right now. But Danny ring your 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.440 Fantasy Football show, one of the funniest, one of the best, 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:29.320 most incisive creative podcasts out there. Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.280 everyone check it out. Danny on the Ringer had you 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.760 on today because we're doing NFC East off season previews. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.440 So I'm really excited to kind of dive into this 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.520 portion of the offseason, the kind of the pre draft, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.480 you know where draft is the sole focus after free 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.840 agency portion, and I wanted to kind of preview like 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.320 what each team needs now, like in the next month 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.639 free agency. Not we'll talk a little bit of draft, 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.280 but the whole thing, like looking at the whole package. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.320 Guys are going to get cut soon, that's already happening. 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.639 The tag we put that out last week. We talked 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.839 about trade. So Danny's a Giants fan. We're gonna put 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.880 ten minutes on the clock to kind of stop us 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:08.600 from honking. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:09.880 We'll do a little bit of. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.760 News halfway through the show as a break talk a 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:13.799 little Travis Kelcey. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.679 But let's actually put it on the clock. Eric. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.160 I don't know if we have a buzzer or what 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.120 we're doing here, but ten minutes it'll stop us, and 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.400 I want you to get us going with the Giants 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.919 kind of one big question. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.720 We'll have each team to kick this off. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:27.960 So first, well, good luck. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.640 I have an abstract concept at the time, so we'll 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.400 see if I just blow past this time or not. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.200 We actually shameless plug Ringer Fantay Football Show. We actually 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.680 do the mock draft oscars where we actually play Danny 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.280 Kelly off with music if he goes too long, So 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:39.360 you can do that with me here too. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.800 But my question for the Giants is very simply. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.119 Who was playing quarterback for this team in twenty twenty five, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.400 because right now it's going to be Drew Locke or 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.600 Tommy Cutlets. And then it's like, you know, and again 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.680 because you mentioned, oh, we're gonna talk draft free agency, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.160 the draft prep starts with free agency and who teams 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.040 sign now, because ideally you can't do best player available 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.280 in the draft unless you kind of like round yourself 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:00.960 out in free agency. So I look at the Giants 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.160 and I'm like, they have the third pick at the 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:04.720 end of the day. You can mock up dual Carter 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.000 to the Titans all you want. But if the Giants, 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.760 if they go, if there's a world where they start, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.160 should a Sanders first pick and then the brown stick 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.000 cam Ward? The Giants have to acquire quarterback that they 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.960 could play this season in case they're not able to 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.680 get one in the draft. So now you're looking at 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.600 Sam Darnold. I mean, you look, we could go through 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.560 all the free agents. But to me, that's the defining 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.320 question for the Giants is who, Like it's actually crazy 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.880 to think how horrible the Giants options a quarterback are. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.440 It is so funny to me that Joe Shane, who 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.640 single handedly ended the Hard Knocks offseason franchise. I don't 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.960 it really seems like no team's taking that this year 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.599 they already would have started, is entering year four. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:43.960 Year three is supposed to be the big year. 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.520 It's kind of the year where Joe Shane when he 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.039 was the assistant in Buffalo and Brandon Bean like, the 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.839 plan comes together and you get a good, big push. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:53.800 But now we're year four the year after the big 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.320 push year, which they obviously didn't push. And they literally 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.600 don't have a quarterback on the roster. I've never seen that. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.679 I don't mean like they don't have a future quarterback. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.680 I mean there's literally not one on the Giants roster 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:05.760 right now. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:05.960 Now. 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.039 Technically, Tommy DeVito's an exclusive rights free agent. If they 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.600 want to keep Tommy DeVito, they will and can keep 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.839 Tommy DeVito. But it's not even like they have like 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.640 a fifth round option as a backup or some veteran 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.800 that makes sense as a third quarterback, Like there is 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.960 no one. And to me, the question for them is 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.520 just like how big did they go on Stafford? They 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.440 are the Stafford They're the Stafford team. Why wouldn't they 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.919 be the Stafford team. They make a lot of sense 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.160 for Stafford, Danny. I actually think they're more turnkey than 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.520 you realize. I actually don't think they need quite as 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.920 much as these other teams that don't have quarterbacks out there. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.920 You put Stafford on this team, you're competitive. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.160 That's my It's weird because you know, look, obviously the 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.080 Giants are my team. I'm a Giants fan, and at 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.360 the same time, every fan wants to see, like, no, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.080 no one has it worse than us, and also we're 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:54.960 closer than you think. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:55.800 So I look at the. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.560 Giants and I'm like, this is the worst quarterback situation 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.600 in the league because they don't have any and we're 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.640 still talking about Tommy Cutlets two years later. How is 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.520 that a thing? And then I mean the fact that 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.279 his agents kept it going this long. But then the 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.040 flip side is this is sacrilege to say, but looking 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.440 at Washington's roster and looking at the Giants roster, and 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.599 I'm like, they kind of have a lot in common 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.480 once you get past Jaden Daniels, you know what I mean, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.480 Like they actually like And that's the thing is I'm biased, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.119 But the Giants, there's good bones to this fixer upper house. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.200 You've got a left tackle Andrew Thomas. You've got a 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.719 top three defensive tackle on Dexter Lawrence. You've got I 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.360 think an underrated defensive end in Brian Burns. And then 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.560 you've also gotten laked neighbors at wide receiver one, Like 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:29.479 those are hard. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:29.840 Things to find. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.920 An elite receiver, an elite left tackle on elite defensive 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.080 tackle A really like B plus to a minus defensive end. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.120 Those are hard things to find. Everything else is a 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.120 mess and they need a quarterback. But yeah, if you 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.120 threw in Stafford, I would talk myself into a Super 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:43.520 Bowl run. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.760 At twelve to one. There actually was. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:47.800 Now that's a little that's a little rich for me. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.760 Well, I don't know if I'm allowed to mention certain 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.520 things of the show. I actually put down and say 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.560 whatever you want. FanDuel made a mistake and they had 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.800 the Giants at plus four seventy sorry, four to four. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.599 I can't say the number four hundred and cent. I 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.120 put ten bucks down. I win forty seven one hundred 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.360 dollars if the Giants win the Super Bowl, which I 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:06.760 was like at that point, I'm just betting on a 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.280 Stafford trade. But no, I mean you're the objective one, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.040 like should the Giants trade for Stafford? Or does that 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.960 reek of desperation to you for a dable Joe Shane 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.720 brain trust that just has to compete. And I think 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.680 that's the tough thing the right now where they have 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.640 this like playoff mandate, and so does it make sense 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.480 to the Giants that gets Stafford or should they. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.600 Just get It's both, it's desperate and it makes enough 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.720 sense for where they're at, Like what would he cost 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.640 a second and a third something like that you mentioned. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.320 They have a good situation otherwise and in like the 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.240 great players that are there, but the rest of the 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.720 rosters messing. I would say their offensive line played a 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.760 little better than people realized last year. You know, even 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.240 some of the like Keevon Thibodeau wasn't a hit, but 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.600 he's an okay starter. So your defensive line is an 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.040 absolute strength. You had a good rookie class. You found 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.040 a like a running back you can get going with 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.240 with Tyrone Tracy in general, the rookie class. You got 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.280 some DB's in the secondary. I made little categories for myself. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:07.800 I didn't want to give you too much homework, but 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.760 last minute doing this, I was like, okay, what do 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.680 they need? The QB is obviously first that they need 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.360 like some cornerbacks. They need wide receivers after you know, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:22.840 neighbors absolutely in maybe some like defensive line, defensive tackle depth. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.840 But here here's a win. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.040 I had a little category of like easy win and 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.800 easy wins for each team in this part of the offseason. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.720 The easy win for them is like they don't really 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.160 have many free agents. I care that much about Darius 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.719 Slayton could be a good player for another team. At 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.440 some point, they got to just give up the ghosts 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.720 like they never they never like them. And then after 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.480 that it's like a Zizo Zulari and Jason Pinnock. They 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.480 are not losing much this year. Of those guys like 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.080 Slayton is the most likely to be gone, but they 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.000 have forty three million dollars in cap space. They do 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.640 have an extra second round pick. No, no, an extra 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.199 like a fifth round pick from the Leonard Williams trade. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.520 Like I think, like, yes, it's desperate to get Matthew Stafford, 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.280 but you're you're not gonna do any better, so I 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:04.880 would just do it. 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.720 No, yeah, I would kind of just do it too, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:07.360 because why not. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.120 But I agree And again the Giants again, they have 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.000 they have pieces in the trenches. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:11.680 The secondary. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.719 It's kind of a mess because actually Drew Phillips is 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.920 their best cornerback now. They drafted Deontay Banks in the 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.720 first round a couple of years ago. Frankly, he's been 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.920 on borderline unplayable. He's one of those where if he 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.560 was the third rounder, they wouldn't be playing him. They 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.200 have to play him because he's a first rounder. But 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.280 I mean, Terry mclaurin's talking about how easy it is 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.800 to beat Deontay Banks at the line of scrimmage and 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.920 for touchdowns like on heart on the when he's micd up. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:31.760 It's unbelievable. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.520 So Thibodeau's been disappointing, you know, I Evan Neiel was 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.240 a mess, you know, Deontay Banks, and suddenly you know, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.080 Joe Shane's had all these you know, maybe four first 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.559 round picks and his three drafts. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.079 So far kind of missed on three of them. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.559 Like, it's not great ironically that the Dave Gettleman draft 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.880 picks are holding up this roster between Dexter Lawrence and 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.200 Andrew Thomas, which is funny to think about. But overall, 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.120 I mean, Neighbors is fantastic. I don't know how much 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.440 credit you get for taking the lak Neighbors, especially when, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.400 like you know, Pannex looks like he might be good 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.520 and Bonux looks like he might be good. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.640 I don't know if those guys would be good on 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:00.000 this ross. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.679 But that's the thing. It's like, basically, the Giants have 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.679 to fortify themselves to what if they can't get a 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.040 quarterback with that third pick in the draft because again can. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.679 Stress enough, as you said, they don't have one. It's February, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.040 they don't have a quarterback. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.280 Well, it's kind of what would you rather have, you know, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.199 your pick on the litter at number three overall plus Stafford, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.920 that you trade your second and maybe a future third 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.200 four or Shader Sanders at three. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.720 So I go back and forth on what the Giant 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.120 should do with this third pick every day. And I 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.680 know that you know, you don't necessarily want to go 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.199 all into the draft right now, But the Giants, I 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.800 think it's hard to separate because I look at I 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.840 think you have to reverse engineer from the draft backward, 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.760 and I look at this, I'm I'm between two. Every day, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.560 I waffle between two options. Just take a quarterback. You're 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.520 high up in the draft. It's ten times more important 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.319 than any of their position. And like if it's a 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.280 quote unquote bad let's say a good class, you get 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.920 a fifty percent hit rate on the quarterback and it's 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:56.480 a quoe unquote bad class and you get a one 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:57.040 out of three. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:57.839 Still do it? 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.200 No one ever knows, Like justin Herbert and sixth these incredible, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.920 Like just take a cam Ward, take a Chadur, and 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.520 if they're bad, whatever, you have to live with it 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.280 and next year you get the quarterback again in twenty 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.720 twenty six. If they're so bad, part of me here's that, 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.680 and the other part of me is like, man, I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.800 don't know if cam Ward or Shadur could succeed in 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.840 this giant's environment. And it's like if at least if 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.880 you take ab Dull Carter or you take Mason Graham 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.760 and you have an elite defensive line that's like an 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.280 identity that fans can get. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.640 Around, and like you have something building blocks. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:25.480 It's like how many teams have built something for one 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.880 quarterback given it to another work It's like the Lions 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.880 had something for Stafford, gave it to GoF, The Rams 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.560 said sing for GoF, gave it to Stafford. The Bucks 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.600 built sing for James, gave it to Brady. Like you 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.439 build in the trenches. That's my fear of taking Travis 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.120 Hunter is it's like you go neighbors Hunter. How many 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.880 teams are built that way. It's like I want big 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.280 beefy boys on the trenches, and so I could go 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:42.760 either way. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.200 I think you also, look, it's the positive and the 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.560 negative of keeping the staff. 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.000 Look, you got. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.600 Dabel, who I think can call plays. We got We'll 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.199 run out of the tide here. Okay, I didn't know 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.600 if that was thirty seconds. We're getting used to this 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.320 Mike Kafka, who's getting interviews elsewhere. And the good thing 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.440 about how bad the quarterback situation was last year that 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.199 anything is going to be an upgrade, like Jacoby Brissett 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.800 and one of these rookies would be an upgrade. The 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.280 bad part of that equation is I think there's a 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.640 very easy way for Joe Shane and Dable if they 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.800 do get Stafford, let's say, and make a couple of 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.560 good picks, It's like you get right back up to 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.120 eight or nine wins. I don't know if this team 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.880 is going anywhere, but then you're like resigning Joe Shane 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.360 and Brian Dable for another couple of years because it's 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.280 gonna be easy for this team to show improve it. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.120 But I actually do think continuity was probably the easiest 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.840 way for them to improve this year. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.080 Underrated is that when you fire a coach, the GM 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.040 can look for the coach. But if you fire a GM, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.800 the owner has to look for the GM and they're like, ah, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:48.480 I don't want. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:48.719 To do that. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.240 Yeah, the Jaguars, even though they have their coaches, they're 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.960 just like announcing finalists. All right, let's let's go to 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.960 the Cowboys. I'll throw out the question for the Cowboys. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:04.440 Can the world in by the world, I mean, the media, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:10.240 Dallas fans just kind of like general consensus pressure Jerry 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:15.960 Jones into doing something big, you know, after a year 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:20.160 where for whatever reason, he almost wanted to just push 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.680 against the narrative that they had to do anything except 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.720 wait until the very last minute to get Dak signed, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.640 to get Ceedee Lamb signed. Now, Michael Parsons is up 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.600 for a contract Bill Barnwell and I mentioned possibly him 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:38.120 being on the trade block. Will the Cowboys actually do 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:44.240 something big this offseason, for instance, like trademark Michael Parsons. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.240 That to me, even though it would be getting rid 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.360 of your best player, would be like an aggressive move. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.400 Or did they just kind of pick around the edges 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:53.680 like they've been doing lately. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.920 I mean, I think it's the right question because I mean, again, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.160 Jerry Jones is older than Joe Biden, and I think 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.880 that Cowboys fans finally realized that this year because I 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.800 think I think there's something cracked in the facade of 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.280 Dallas this year. I think that Jerry Jones frankly has 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.360 been the Wizard of Oz for the entire time he's 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.920 on the team, and I think Cowboys fans saw behind 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.440 the curtain this year, something about that Jerry. For someone 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.040 who says all these weird quotes to media, Jerry, the 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.400 all in quote has resonated with Cowboys fans. Unlike any 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.480 quote I've heard from any owner. I've met all the 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.000 Cowboys fans I know in my life, all the Cowboys fans, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.240 I don't know that I hear from a month. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.720 Everyone just keeps repeating this all in quote, and it's story. 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.560 Hall I think gets a lot of pop too, Yeah 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:32.840 it does. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.560 He keeps going back to that. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.280 Lot of pops in Glory Hole. Yeah. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.360 So I like his baggage. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.040 Yeah, I mean the owls and chickens. Google that one 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.920 with sect worker Sham. There's a lot of things going on, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:48.640 But anyway, Jerry again, Jerry has been on a quest 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.480 for two things. He wants to win a Super Bowl 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.440 and get credit for it, Like he wants to recreate 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.240 the nineteen nineties Dallas, where it's like, you know what, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:56.880 Jimmy Johnson got to walk in the locker room and 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.880 be like, how about that Cowboys? And it's like, Jerry 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.120 got wanted to do that. You wanted the credit. But 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.440 he also doesn't want to spend money. Jerry wants as 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.320 much attention and eyeballs for as little money as humanly possible. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.200 That's why instead of making football decisions, he makes business decisions. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.240 He's a marketer, he's a salesman. They get the Dak 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.480 Prescott extension done on this Sunday morning of week one 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.280 so he can get it on the pregame shows for free. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.080 He looks at all this as free media. That's what 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.320 it is. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.520 It's advertising. He doesn't have to pay for it. That's 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.800 how he looks at the news. So the Michael Parsons thing, 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.080 he doesn't look at it as a football decision. In 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.160 my opinion, Jerry looks at it as well, get all summer. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.920 They're going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys until Michael 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.800 Parsons deal gets done. Why would we do the deal 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.440 early because then let's stop talking about it. That's why 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.080 he gets Dak and Seed. He done late in the year, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.000 and so that to me is the question is is 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.920 Jerry going to start treating this like a business that 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:43.720 he just is trying. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.200 To get eyeballs? 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.640 So he's going to treat it like a football team 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.680 because he hasn't treated it like a football team in 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:48.600 like twelve years. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.680 Okay, some little facts about their offseason. Not much gap 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.760 space right now. They're actually over the cap by a 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.200 couple million. You know, you can restructure, you can move 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.440 money around, you can make cuts. Every team has the 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.480 option to do that. The Cowboys have done it a 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.080 little less than others, but certainly they will for a 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.560 little out. They're missing their fourth round pick because they 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.920 gave it up for Jonathan Mingo, whoops. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.440 A year after they give up the fourth for Tree Lance. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.280 Couple easy wins. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.480 They have two free agents which will make my top 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:25.760 one on one in Rico Dowdele and Cavante Turpin. Those 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.000 are guys that are worth more to the Cowboys to 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.000 me than they probably would be for another team. Just 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:35.160 give Rico Dowdle two for ten. He'll take it like 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.720