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Speaker 1: Wow, the NFL daily where we totally forgot President's Day

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Speaker 1: is a real holiday. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the garage

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Speaker 1: talking to my friend from across the country.

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Speaker 2: I haven't spent a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of time in real life, but I love his

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Speaker 1: work on The Ringer Fantasy Football Show. It's Danny Hifitz,

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Speaker 1: also a great writer. Danny, what's happened?

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Speaker 3: I'm good man. How are you doing.

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Speaker 4: We're just getting ready for when the President's Day is

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Speaker 4: just going to become the day after the super Bowl

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Speaker 4: and then suddenly everyone's going to get the party on

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl like it's like there's no work the

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Speaker 3: So we're just kind of getting ahad of the curve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, people have mentioned that, and for that to happen,

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Speaker 1: that means the NFL has to start a week earlier,

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Speaker 1: though too write or they don't add the second bye week.

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Speaker 1: But I keep thinking they're going to add a second

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Speaker 2: That's been what it's been talked about a little bit.

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Speaker 1: If you add an eighteenth game and then do we

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Speaker 1: start like Labor Day weekend weekend before rather, it would

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Speaker 1: cut into my US Open tennis watch and it would

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Speaker 4: One of us is you know, a little more plugged

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Speaker 4: into the NFL than me. So, but I do think

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Speaker 4: they kill the two week gap between the conference championships

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Speaker 4: and the super Bowl. Yes, make bring it back into

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Speaker 4: a week so that way you can add the eighteenth game.

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Speaker 4: They make more money, add the second buy so the

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Speaker 4: players don't get that mad. But then you collapse that

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Speaker 4: into two week period into one week, and now the

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Speaker 4: super Bowl is the day before President's Day.

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Speaker 3: Which honestly is I would always should have been. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of perfect.

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Speaker 2: I am with you.

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Speaker 1: I get why it started that way way back when

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Speaker 1: it's like a different media cycle, like gets everyone chance

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Speaker 1: everyone gets in position. We're like in a different time.

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Speaker 1: Football is meant to be played weekly. Everyone does those

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Speaker 1: those tweets of like, oh, it's our first Sunday with football.

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Speaker 1: Chris Long had a funny video about that. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: we just had one the one Sunday before. Sorry, Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl as my voice is already losing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you were supposed to be immune to

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Speaker 4: New Orleans by now.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was in better shape until starting to

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Speaker 1: talk loudly to you right now. But Danny ring your

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football show, one of the funniest, one of the best,

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Speaker 1: most incisive creative podcasts out there. Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly,

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Speaker 1: everyone check it out. Danny on the Ringer had you

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Speaker 1: on today because we're doing NFC East off season previews.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to kind of dive into this

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Speaker 1: but the whole thing, like looking at the whole package.

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Speaker 1: Guys are going to get cut soon, that's already happening.

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Speaker 1: The tag we put that out last week. We talked

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Speaker 2: We'll do a little bit of.

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Speaker 2: But let's actually put it on the clock. Eric.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a buzzer or what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here, but ten minutes it'll stop us, and

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Speaker 1: I want you to get us going with the Giants

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Speaker 2: We'll have each team to kick this off.

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Speaker 3: So first, well, good luck.

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Speaker 4: I have an abstract concept at the time, so we'll

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Speaker 4: see if I just blow past this time or not.

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Speaker 4: We actually shameless plug Ringer Fantay Football Show. We actually

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Speaker 4: do the mock draft oscars where we actually play Danny

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Speaker 3: But my question for the Giants is very simply.

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Speaker 4: Who was playing quarterback for this team in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: because you mentioned, oh, we're gonna talk draft free agency,

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold. I mean, you look, we could go through

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Speaker 4: all the free agents. But to me, that's the defining

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Speaker 1: It is so funny to me that Joe Shane, who

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Speaker 1: it really seems like no team's taking that this year

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Speaker 2: Year three is supposed to be the big year.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the year where Joe Shane when he

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Speaker 1: But now we're year four the year after the big

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Speaker 1: I don't mean like they don't have a future quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Technically, Tommy DeVito's an exclusive rights free agent. If they

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Speaker 2: You put Stafford on this team, you're competitive.

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Speaker 4: That's my It's weird because you know, look, obviously the

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Speaker 3: So I look at the.

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Speaker 4: still talking about Tommy Cutlets two years later. How is

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Speaker 4: flip side is this is sacrilege to say, but looking

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Speaker 4: Like they actually like And that's the thing is I'm biased,

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Speaker 4: But the Giants, there's good bones to this fixer upper house.

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Speaker 4: You've got a left tackle Andrew Thomas. You've got a

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Speaker 3: Things to find.

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Speaker 4: An elite receiver, an elite left tackle on elite defensive

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Speaker 4: Those are hard things to find. Everything else is a

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Speaker 3: At twelve to one. There actually was.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a little that's a little rich for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if I'm allowed to mention certain

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Speaker 4: whatever you want. FanDuel made a mistake and they had

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Speaker 4: was like at that point, I'm just betting on a

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Speaker 1: Just get It's both, it's desperate and it makes enough

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Speaker 1: rosters messing. I would say their offensive line played a

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to give you too much homework, but

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Speaker 1: neighbors absolutely in maybe some like defensive line, defensive tackle depth.

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Speaker 2: But here here's a win.

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Speaker 1: I had a little category of like easy win and

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Speaker 1: easy wins for each team in this part of the offseason.

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Speaker 1: The easy win for them is like they don't really

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Speaker 1: have many free agents. I care that much about Darius

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Speaker 1: Slayton could be a good player for another team. At

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Speaker 1: some point, they got to just give up the ghosts

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Speaker 1: like they never they never like them. And then after

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Speaker 1: that it's like a Zizo Zulari and Jason Pinnock. They

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Speaker 1: Slayton is the most likely to be gone, but they

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Speaker 1: have forty three million dollars in cap space. They do

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Speaker 1: have an extra second round pick. No, no, an extra

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Speaker 1: like a fifth round pick from the Leonard Williams trade.

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Speaker 1: Like I think, like, yes, it's desperate to get Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I would kind of just do it too,

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Speaker 4: But I agree And again the Giants again, they have

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Speaker 4: So Thibodeau's been disappointing, you know, I Evan Neiel was

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Speaker 4: Like, it's not great ironically that the Dave Gettleman draft

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Speaker 4: But that's the thing. It's like, basically, the Giants have

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Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of what would you rather have, you know,

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Speaker 4: No one ever knows, Like justin Herbert and sixth these incredible,

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Speaker 3: Around, and like you have something building blocks.

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Speaker 4: It's like how many teams have built something for one

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Speaker 4: said sing for GoF, gave it to Stafford. The Bucks

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Speaker 1: I think you also, look, it's the positive and the

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Speaker 1: Dabel, who I think can call plays. We got We'll

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Speaker 1: good picks, It's like you get right back up to

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Speaker 1: eight or nine wins. I don't know if this team

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Speaker 1: But I actually do think continuity was probably the easiest

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Speaker 4: Underrated is that when you fire a coach, the GM

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Jaguars, even though they have their coaches, they're

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'll throw out the question for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Can the world in by the world, I mean, the media,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's the right question because I mean, again,

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Speaker 4: who says all these weird quotes to media, Jerry, the

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Speaker 4: all in quote has resonated with Cowboys fans. Unlike any

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I hear from a month.

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Speaker 3: Everyone just keeps repeating this all in quote, and it's story.

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Speaker 2: He keeps going back to that.

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Speaker 3: Lot of pops in Glory Hole. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I like his baggage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the owls and chickens. Google that one

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Speaker 4: But anyway, Jerry again, Jerry has been on a quest

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Speaker 4: That's why instead of making football decisions, he makes business decisions.

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Speaker 4: He's a marketer, he's a salesman. They get the Dak

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Speaker 4: Prescott extension done on this Sunday morning of week one

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Speaker 4: It's advertising. He doesn't have to pay for it. That's

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Speaker 4: my opinion, Jerry looks at it as well, get all summer.

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Speaker 4: They're going to talk about the Dallas Cowboys until Michael

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Speaker 4: So he's going to treat it like a football team

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Speaker 1: Okay, some little facts about their offseason. Not much gap

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Speaker 2: A year after they give up the fourth for Tree Lance.

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Speaker 1: They have two free agents which will make my top

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Speaker 4: But to your point, though, I think that actually centuates

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Speaker 3: They need that.

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Speaker 4: And the same with running back, even if you bring

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Speaker 4: They need a dtackle, and then they also need a

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Speaker 4: bunch of other stuff. I mean, inside linebacker they're cursed

440
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Speaker 4: because de marve On overshow look great, but he had

441
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Speaker 4: that horrific injury. And so now you've got when Sean

442
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Speaker 4: lead a late and Devander Rush to overshown where that

443
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Speaker 4: position's cursed for them. But then you know you still

444
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Speaker 4: need like receivers behind Ceedee Lamb like they need a lot.

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Speaker 1: Their Their roster looks terrible right now, which is I

446
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Speaker 1: disagree on the running back thing. I think if you

447
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Speaker 1: bring Daube back, you're fine. He actually he was good.

448
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Speaker 1: He was good enough. And everyone says you can find

449
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Speaker 1: running backs in the draft, like the Cowboys can't. They

450
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Speaker 1: keep trying, like Malik Davis, Douce Vaughan is there, they

451
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Speaker 1: don't really have any.

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Speaker 4: Like that was a baseball pick where it's like the

453
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Speaker 4: twentieth round, you just take some scout son. They just

454
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Speaker 4: just took the guy's son from the God. That's not

455
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Speaker 4: a you can't do that this seventh round.

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Speaker 1: Like they need to go back to They got to

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Speaker 1: look at like what the Eagles are doing. So to me,

458
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Speaker 1: there they're biggest issues. I mean they have issues everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line, defensive line especially as you mentioned, and then

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Speaker 1: the weapons beyond ceedee Liam. But that's like a lot

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Speaker 1: it like who is their second best defensive lineman If

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Speaker 1: you count Michael Parsons as a defensive lineman, which I will,

463
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Speaker 1: he's basically an edge. Who is their second best defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman right now? They have DeMarcus Lawrence is going to

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Speaker 1: be a free agent. Chaun Zy Golston, who actually played

466
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Speaker 1: a lot for them, is a free agent as well.

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Speaker 1: It's probably Marshawn Neeland who's coming off a big injury.

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Speaker 1: But they don't really have anyone, so they need so

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Speaker 1: much depth. And then they tried to They drafted a

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Speaker 1: couple offensive linemen last year. We'll see if Tyler Goton

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Speaker 1: works out at left tackle. He had a rocky rookie year,

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Speaker 1: but that happens at tackle. They like Cooper Bebee, who's

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Speaker 1: a center, but they only feel like great. I would

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Speaker 1: think about Tyler Smith on the offensive line, so that's

475
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Speaker 1: like a lot. I think one of the big decisions

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Speaker 1: actually sneaky is do they bring DeMarcus Lawrence back. He's

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Speaker 1: one of those veterans that's out there. Would feel very weird.

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Speaker 1: If I'm DeMarcus Lawrence, I would rather just end my

479
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Speaker 1: career in a different uniform. But maybe you're like losing

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Speaker 1: endorsement money down the line if you leave.

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Speaker 3: Jerry loves him.

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Speaker 4: Jerry loves to Marcus Lawrence at the be back and oh,

483
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Speaker 4: Terry loves him, and so I think tomorrow also they

484
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Speaker 4: just need pass rushers too. The offensive line, and I

485
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Speaker 4: was worried about, but again it's still a question mark.

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Speaker 4: But I think that look, they've proven they can develop

487
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Speaker 4: offensive line that I know it's a different time, different plays.

488
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Speaker 4: But like Geyton, I don't know, he was supposed to

489
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Speaker 4: be young and he was kind of like Cookie Dough

490
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Speaker 4: comeing in and it's like, okay, it's not like Tyron

491
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Speaker 4: Smith was light in the world on fire as a

492
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Speaker 4: rookie and then he's probably gonna go to the Hall

493
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Speaker 4: of Fame. So I mean Tyler Guyton at left tackle,

494
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Speaker 4: I'm not that worried. I really. I mean the development

495
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Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, Like Mazzie Smith

496
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Speaker 4: has been really disappointing at defensive tackle. He's like the

497
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Speaker 4: ultimate like traits guy that has not really into you know,

498
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Speaker 4: translated like the absurd athleticism. I think it was number

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Speaker 4: one and Bruce Feldman's Freaks list, like yeah, that has

500
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Speaker 4: a translate at all. But the overall point, though, is

501
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Speaker 4: the roster kind of matches what the overall criticism of

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is top heavy veneer of talent and sex appeal,

503
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Speaker 4: and underneath you pull up the layer and it's just

504
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Speaker 4: like it's all rotted wood, Like the foundation is totally cracked.

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Speaker 4: It's like you got CD, you got DAK And again

506
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Speaker 4: we're still talking about hamstring evulsion.

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Speaker 3: You look into what that means.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like Barbara, Oh, it's like they pulled off

509
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Speaker 4: the bone, and it's like it's not really exciting. So

510
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Speaker 4: you got Dak coming off this weird injury, CD, Micah

511
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Speaker 4: Parsons who doesn't have a deal yet.

512
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Speaker 3: That's three of the other fifty guys. Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 4: I'll give them four crazy question marks everywhere, and that's

514
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Speaker 4: assuming that I'm saying where I'm like, the offensive line

515
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Speaker 4: will continue to develop and still it's just the ceiling

516
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Speaker 4: on this team is really low.

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Speaker 1: That's why I actually don't think it'd be that crazy

518
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Speaker 1: to get the mother load for Micah Parsons if.

519
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Speaker 2: You could do it. But that so Unjerry, Like, yeah,

520
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Speaker 2: it really is.

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, as Bill Barmo pointed out on a last

522
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Speaker 1: so you're paying like one hundred and twenty million dollars

523
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Speaker 1: or whatever it's going to be to three players after

524
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Speaker 1: you were weren't that good paying them half that or

525
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Speaker 1: way less a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Whereas it's very on Jerry.

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Speaker 1: But maybe they could impress about him because I look

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Speaker 1: at this raster, I think there there is a route

529
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Speaker 1: here where the offseason doesn't go well where they're like

530
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Speaker 1: predicted to go coming forth like behind your giants in

531
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford next offseason, you got any more hot Cowboys

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Speaker 1: steak Before we take a break, I.

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Speaker 4: Just really want to reiterate that I mean what I said,

534
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Speaker 4: and I'm not being hyperbolic. Jerry cares more about attention

535
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Speaker 4: and winning in that and if until that changes, this

536
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Speaker 4: team is it's not They're not worth talking about that much.

537
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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those teams that the more I looked at,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is more funky. Like then

540
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Speaker 1: I realized, what's the part of the team that you

541
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Speaker 1: actually feel pretty good about? In terms of weapons, it's Lamb.

542
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Speaker 1: The second weapon behind him is Jake Ferguson probably, and

543
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Speaker 1: your second receiver right now is Jalen Tolbert. We mentioned

544
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Speaker 1: like the lack of depth on the defensive line. You've

545
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Speaker 1: got some good players in the secondary. Jordan Lewis, though,

546
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Speaker 1: is a good player for them. That's also a free agent.

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Speaker 1: They sneaky had a lot of free agents in my

548
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Speaker 1: top one hundred, Zach Martin, Dowdell, DeMarcus Lawrence, o'diggy's and

549
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Speaker 1: Jordan Lawrence. We're gonna take a quick break, do some

550
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Speaker 1: news on the other side, and wrap.

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Speaker 2: Up the NFC off season ProView zero.

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Speaker 1: And one of many reasons I wanted Danny Heifitz on

553
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Speaker 1: this show is like he was gonna bring just a

554
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Speaker 1: lot of energy, picked me up here on a Monday

555
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Speaker 1: morning where I gotta I gotta be real.

556
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Speaker 2: With the listeners here.

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Speaker 1: We had to stop down at one point during that

558
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Speaker 1: Giants preview because I couldn't speak, like I the super

559
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Speaker 1: Bowl took more out of me than than I expected, Danny,

560
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Speaker 1: Like I I had to go inside get some water.

561
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Speaker 2: Like recollect myself.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot even if even if you weren't

563
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, like losing that Super Bowl, it seems like

564
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Speaker 1: it took a lot out of a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen Lord of the Rings,

567
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Speaker 4: but yeah, I think that was like I can't carry

568
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Speaker 4: the ring, mister Froud, I can't carry the show.

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Speaker 3: But I can carry you.

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Speaker 4: But no, I just you know, I just That's how

571
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Speaker 4: Danny Kelly and I started doing the Fantasy Football show.

572
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Speaker 4: At the beginning, was like I didn't know what I

573
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Speaker 4: was talking about, but I had a lot of energy

574
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Speaker 4: and I kind of they just threw me at Danny

575
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Speaker 4: Kelly together, and like, I wonder if, on average, you know,

576
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Speaker 4: they'll have like a normal net energy and that's kind

577
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Speaker 4: of you know how it goes sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you both named Danny, which you guys mean,

579
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Speaker 2: done a lot early, but.

580
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Speaker 3: A little too much.

581
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Speaker 4: Dantasy Football podcast turns out to be a terrible name

582
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Speaker 4: for show because you Google it and Google thinks you're wrong.

583
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Speaker 2: It is really funny to think about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a bad name, but

585
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Speaker 1: I do like, I do like the Ringer Fantasy Football Show,

586
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Speaker 1: although right now it's draft season and they also are

587
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Speaker 1: the Ringer Draft Show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we changed the name of the show during the

589
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Speaker 4: season because there's five million podcasts. Literally, there's five million

590
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Speaker 4: podcasts in the world, and we're the only one who

591
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Speaker 4: changes her name during the year. So it's probably because

592
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Speaker 4: everyone else is wrong, right, There's no way we could

593
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Speaker 4: be wrong about that being a bit bad idea.

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Speaker 1: So I listened to the New Heights podcast. This is

595
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Speaker 1: not a flex or trying to be a hipster. It

596
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Speaker 1: was the first time I'd listened to it, and it

597
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Speaker 1: was really good. The this would logically be compelling one

598
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Speaker 1: to listen to Travis Kelce talking about losing, and what

599
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Speaker 1: struck me first of all is that I'd be shocked if.

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Speaker 2: He's not retiring.

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Speaker 1: Just listening to that, here's the words, the weight of

602
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Speaker 1: the season and what they've accomplished and what they're trying

603
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Speaker 1: to accomplish. It can either motivate you or drive you crazy.

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Speaker 1: And this season it kind of drove him crazy, and

605
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Speaker 1: he was as down as he possibly could be about it.

606
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Speaker 1: There was a report Danny from the Athletic that they

607
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Speaker 1: needed an answer by Travis from Travis Kelce by March fourteenth,

608
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Speaker 1: and that, you know, that's when free agency started. And

609
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Speaker 1: I looked at the cap hit and all this sort

610
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Speaker 1: of thing, and I was thinking, it's going to be

611
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Speaker 1: sad for the Chiefs. It's obviously sad for Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 1: Every great career has to end, but actually could help

613
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs out. They get seventeen million dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 1: It's not they would keep Travis kelcey. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they try to renegotiate his contract, they somehow less

616
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Speaker 1: than that hit. But you don't I don't think you

617
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Speaker 1: want Travis Kelce on the books for like nineteen million

618
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Speaker 1: dollars in salary cap space, and I really think it's

619
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Speaker 1: gonna end in a retirement and you felt for him,

620
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Speaker 1: and what what you realize? I think this is true

621
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Speaker 1: as a fan, but obviously it's true as a player.

622
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Speaker 1: Brady talked about this too, is like, man, it hurts

623
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Speaker 1: way worse to lose in the super Bowl, I think

624
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Speaker 1: than it does in the divisional round in the NFC

625
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Speaker 1: or the AFC or NFC championship game.

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Speaker 4: There's a reason losing super Bowls destroys teams. And you know,

627
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Speaker 4: there's a reason the Super Bowl hangover of like losing

628
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 4: the game. It destroys teams. It destroyed the forty nine ers.

629
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Speaker 4: It hurt that Eagles team like the year before this year.

630
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Speaker 4: And I think Deebo Samuel, I forget someone on the

631
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers team, just keep it said. It's like, yeah,

632
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Speaker 4: everyone's just depressed the whole year, Like get your your

633
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 4: entire life's aspirations are dangled in front of this collective

634
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Speaker 4: group of two hundred people and it's ripped away from me.

635
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Speaker 3: Right is this in your hands?

636
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Speaker 4: And so yeah, it just it does things to you,

637
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Speaker 4: especially when you have those law things of a three

638
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: pet no one, you'll never get back to the three

639
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: P and all these things you envision to yourself never

640
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: gonna happen.

641
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Speaker 3: I think with Kelsey specifically, every player says this.

642
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Speaker 4: Like, if you make the decision in February, you want

643
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Speaker 4: to retire, Like if you, like Tom Brady, said this,

644
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Speaker 4: Like Tom Brady, the reason it came back was he's like,

645
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Speaker 4: I made the decision in that two week aftermath of

646
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Speaker 4: the season where it's like the weight of it crushes you.

647
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Speaker 4: I think if Kelsey decides and let's the chiefstow in

648
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Speaker 4: February like he's gone, and if he waits right up

649
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Speaker 4: to that deadline when it really like gets a little

650
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Speaker 4: real and you're getting back into like your workout routine,

651
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Speaker 4: that when you start to miss it, I think you

652
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Speaker 4: might come back just because you don't want to know

653
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Speaker 4: if you want to go out that way.

654
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: But I think he probably he probably should retire.

655
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: He should go out this way, like he has this

656
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: wonderful It would have been better if he won, but

657
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: you have this incredible off ram for your career. You

658
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 4: don't want to go into the season where everyone is

659
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 4: going to be talking about him as the weak link.

660
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: He doesn't have it anymore.

661
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: And it's like cool to go out and impress the doubters,

662
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: but you don't want to have a season where you're like,

663
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: actually the haters and doubters were right, shout out to

664
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: the haters and doubters.

665
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: I just think he wasn't having as much.

666
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Like from the sound of it, I don't know how

667
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: fun this season was for the Chiefs.

668
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: The thing that really hit me was.

669
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Him talking about the weight of like what they were

670
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish, because I think the way after you

671
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: win one is really heavy that next year, and so

672
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: only a few teams ever even know what that's like

673
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: of the weight the year after that, and then to

674
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: end how it ended, and he was really kicking himself

675
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: being like how he was trying to do too much

676
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: and he wishes, you know, he had known how to

677
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: lead better in that scenario because he had been going

678
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: through it before and that was getting crushed in a

679
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I think the way they lost that

680
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl made it even worse. Just you know, they

681
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: use the words like humiliating and all that stuff is

682
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: just it's just brutal.

683
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: And he was very eloquent.

684
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I thought about how brutal game that it comes for everyone,

685
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, like it can just come for you so quickly.

686
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: I'll transition to a little bit to some offseason news

687
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: before we get back to the.

688
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Previews. Some cuts.

689
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: We're already into the cap cut season, so like the

690
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Dolphins are cutting Raheem Moster, Kendall Fuller, some pretty good

691
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: players free up like thirteen fourteen million dollars in cap space.

692
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: The Steelers cut Preston Smith. That was fourteen million dollars

693
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: in cap space. They're up to fifty. We're we're just

694
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: at that time of year where there's going to be

695
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: a lot of cuts in so leading. Yeah, there's eight

696
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: teams right now over fifty million dollars in cap space.

697
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: There's way too much cap space. This is one of

698
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: the things I always bang on about. And then another

699
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: just item. I want to get your thoughts on the

700
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: Texans hired offensive coordinator Nick Kayley. It's just something we

701
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: hadn't hit on the show yet. And I don't know

702
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: where you were in the great CJ. Stroud Wars of

703
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and maybe what Kaylee means for them.

704
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 1: He was a guy who's been on this RAMS staff

705
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: that everyone's wanted that he supposedly turned down multimillion dollars

706
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: deal from the Patriots last offseason to become their offensive coordinator.

707
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: He's been a really hot name that's been picking and choosing,

708
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: and the Texans get him to really shepherd C. J.

709
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Stroud in the next phase of his career.

710
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm I'm a big believer that Bobby Slope

711
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: was the problem for the Houston Texans. I think, frankly,

712
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: they were really poorly coached, and I thought the play

713
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: calling was really bad. And I don't mean it. I

714
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: think Bobby Slowery, he's a really nice guy. I don't

715
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: mean any like shade to Bobby Slowik. But the reality

716
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: is they were not well coordinated on the Houston Texans

717
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: last year.

718
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: They were uncoordinated as a team.

719
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: The offensive line didn't not to block, they had bad technique,

720
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: they didn't understand their asignments. That's kind of the whole job.

721
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: The play calling, the sequencing, frankly was horrific. They couldn't

722
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: really run the ball the way they wanted to. Side

723
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: of the Dallas game where they did a lot, I'm

724
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: money in football, which actually think preserved, I think they'd

725
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: actually have a worst reputation if not for rocking Dallas,

726
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: I'm money in a football sum at football forget. But

727
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: if you look overall, I believe, and I could be

728
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: wrong on this, but I believe nobody had more third

729
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: and longs than the Texans last year except the Cleveland Browns,

730
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: who were one of the worst offenses ever when the

731
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: show and Watson was playing those six weeks, like the

732
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: Browns and the Texans and the most third lungs, it's CJ.

733
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: Stroud.

734
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 4: The whole thing in the modern NFL is not to

735
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: put your quarterback in that and the entire Texans offense

736
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: to me was CJ. Stroud bailing them out a third

737
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: and long and then if he could do that for

738
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: a drive, they'd score, and if not, they couldn't. And

739
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: so yeah, Bobby Slow could to go. I think that

740
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: I've seen it with my own eyes.

741
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: CG. Stroud's good.

742
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear anything else about It's funny

743
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: that Bryce shung out performed in last year. But the

744
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: reality is like when I watched the Texans and it's

745
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: a warshot test.

746
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: I do not think man CJ. Stroud got worse.

747
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: I think what is going on all around this offense,

748
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And so I am very

749
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: bullish and I think that a lot of the Texans

750
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: hype from twenty twenty four.

751
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: I am going to buy the dip on that for

752
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.

753
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of reminds me of when the Bills

754
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: immediately got better with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott took

755
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: a little step back in year two, and then year

756
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: three they actually were truly a better team, a little

757
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: more stable ground underneath them. Obviously that's when Josh Allen improved,

758
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: but I think CG. Stroud is got to improve. I

759
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: think it's a great hire. And the way they talk already,

760
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Demico Ryans is like very excited about him. And there

761
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: was a report I believe it was from ESPN dot

762
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: Com that you know, Ryan's went around and asked some

763
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: of the players before he made this final decisions, like

764
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, about getting rid of Sloak, and like what

765
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: did you think?

766
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: And there was not a.

767
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Lot of like defending of Bobby Slowik from the players.

768
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: There was one player who was like, yeah, we didn't

769
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: know what the f was going on, Like, we honestly

770
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: didn't know what the f we were doing on a

771
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: play to play basis. The Jaguars also hired their offensive coordinator,

772
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a young man by the name of Grant Udinsky, who

773
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: had a million interviews this offseason.

774
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: Is in his twenties.

775
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: Was under Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, so that's an interesting hire.

776
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: But Liam Cohen's an offensive coach, so it's interesting that's

777
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: the job he ended up with. Liam Cohen is supposed

778
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: to call plays. There just something to watch. Meanwhile, they're

779
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: on their finalists for their GM, which is they're just

780
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: doing everything backwards.

781
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: Wait, I couldn't believe that. Okay, you have been doing

782
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: this longer than me. I was looking through headlines this

783
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: morning and I saw that, and I was like, isn't

784
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: the combine like next week? They don't have a gym?

785
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: What's the latest you can remember gym? Because there are

786
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: teams that fire the gym after the draft, like the

787
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 4: Bills have done that a lot of things like oh,

788
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 4: we want to get cagnan.

789
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Did that right? Then they fire mccagnan after the draft.

790
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they let Mike mccagne give out one hundred million guaranteed,

791
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: which had never been done before, and then they fired

792
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: h much for the draft, But like, I get that

793
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: because at least it makes sense.

794
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Hey, they've done all this work on the draft, what

795
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: is the and you do it?

796
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: You fire him this after the draft and May What

797
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: is the latest you can remember a general manager being hired,

798
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: because I don't remember a team going into the Combine

799
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: without a general manager.

800
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they'll get one by next week, but

801
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: it essentially.

802
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: Key Bob and then either he's going to get a

803
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: plane ticket to Indianapolis, is he's gonna go to Indianapolis,

804
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna go to Jacksonville.

805
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: First, Tony Basselli is essentially their GM, which is weird,

806
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: like their radio announcer. I mean, they've changed their mind

807
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: four times this sasseason. First they're they're they're keeping uh

808
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: Tred Balkie. Then then they're not keeping Tred Balkie. But

809
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: essentially Liam Cohen is running the team, which is you.

810
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Know that's a risk. Let's go.

811
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the the NFC East off season preview.

812
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I do want to get through all these teams. That's

813
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I wanted to do this show.

814
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I think it's good to give each team a juicy

815
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes here so put the commis on the clock.

816
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: You asked me a big question here, Danny about the communiers.

817
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: My question for Washington is just can they retool this

818
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: entire team on the fly again, Because if you look

819
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: at this Washington team, they retooled the whole thing from

820
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 4: the number two pick to the final four and one offseason.

821
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: That was cool. They got to do it again.

822
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: They they have more.

823
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: Than two dozen free agents, including a lot of the contributors.

824
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: I could go through this list if you want to

825
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: have the whole thing, But in the short do you, like,

826
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: do you think that they can just retool the whole

827
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: thing again and just be a contender just like that.

828
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of the flip side of doing all these

829
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: prove it one year deals with veterans who immediately raise

830
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the floor. It almost worked too well, and now you're

831
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: having to make decisions on like do we bring these

832
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: guys back or not. But I think they sort of

833
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: had their cake and eat it too, because you had

834
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: a great rookie class. You have not just jyde Daniels,

835
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: but you have Sandra Still. You have some guys that

836
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: you can build around uh for the future, and you

837
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: got to, you know, have immediate success. It's just the

838
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: expectations are now going to be so high. But yes, like,

839
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: what would you put highest on their needs? Because they do,

840
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: unlike some of the teams we're talking about, have almost

841
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: infinite amount of cap space to address these needs. Seventy

842
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: five million right now, and you can probably create even

843
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: more if you want.

844
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: Who cares about cap space? You just said it earlier.

845
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: Cap space is it's not the NBA. It's over rated.

846
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: Because again I'm going to read some list to you,

847
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: or I'm going to let you pick what you think is

848
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: their biggest need. Bobby Wagner, who's going to be thirty

849
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: five this year, led them in tackles and played almost

850
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of snaps. You kind of need Bobby

851
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: Wagner back, So I think they'll do that in a

852
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 4: linebacker's yeah, yeah, so he's a free agent.

853
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: I might actually might let Bobby Wagner go. Oh, like,

854
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: it's not gonna get better. If you watch that NFC

855
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: Championship game, the game plan was essentially, Bobby.

856
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Wagner, We're gonna take advantage of you.

857
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Well, And that's the point, though, is they have a

858
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: lot of stuff like that. Dante Fowler led them in

859
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: sacks and then he's a free agent.

860
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

861
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: Washington has two receivers under contract next year, two Terry

862
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: McLaurin and Luke McCaffrey.

863
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: They have one tight end under contract next year with

864
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: the rookie Ben Sinnett. Washington. Eight players caught.

865
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: A touchdown for Washington last year eight six of the

866
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: eight are free agents, so you have that is a

867
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: huge problem. They really only need to stick with. I mean,

868
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: four of their five offensive line positions could be upgraded.

869
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: They don't have to, but like you have Sam Cosmy

870
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: at guard. He towards ACL late in the season, so

871
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to do that. Brandon Coleman's Brandon Coleman

872
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: still at a left eckle for you, Like, is that

873
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: what you want long term?

874
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: With Jayden Daniels.

875
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 4: So again, Alamade's a Chaius was a nice find, but like,

876
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: is that what you want?

877
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: Slot?

878
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 4: You do not have a number two receiver for real. Again,

879
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: it's just McCaffrey McLaurin under contract. You don't really have

880
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: a ton of edge rushers under contract. Cornerback is huge concerned.

881
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: Sandrys still is the man at a Michigan I love him.

882
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: But like after that, you cannot count on Marshawn Lattimore

883
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 4: to play or contribute. They don't have a ton of quarterbacks.

884
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: And that's the thing with this Washington team. They made

885
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: the championship for basically half because of Jayden Daniels and

886
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 4: half because of this crazy team of like twenty two

887
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: twenty four one year deals jelled.

888
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and some of the rookies.

889
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Coleman was a rookie, So as a third round rookie,

890
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: I think you can expect that position's okay and that

891
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: you had got to hope that he improves. You can't

892
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: upgrade everywhere all at once. Plus you probably need another tackle,

893
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: a right tackle, So the offensive line, like, I'm okay

894
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: with Jade and Daniels, I'm okay with the backfield, You're

895
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: right everywhere else you kind of need issues, all right,

896
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: easy win category for me. The easiest thing to do

897
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: is bring back some of the guys that helped you

898
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: that shouldn't have a huge market. So zach Ertz, you said, okay,

899
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: the guys, like, no one's going to be bidding crazy

900
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: for zach Ertz. What zach Ertz gonna cost. Just just

901
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: bring zach Ertz back. Kick the camp a little bit there.

902
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Mariota was a was the best Mariota I've ever seen.

903
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Bring him back as your backup. I mean it was

904
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: the best version of Mariota I've ever.

905
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Seen, Like Randall Cunningham in that band.

906
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm almost a little worried that some other team will

907
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: give him a nice contract. Then then you're having a problem.

908
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: Noah Igbinoghany actually at quarterback was like the next best

909
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: Benogany I'd ever seen. And so there is a concern

910
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: that some of these guys you mentioned Fowler, there's Diami

911
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Brown could get a nice free agent contract, Jeremy Chin

912
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: who you kind of raise their value that other teams

913
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: are going to come over the top, and that's gonna

914
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: make it tricky.

915
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: And yet I don't know.

916
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith because they hit so

917
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: many winners last year. I do think they are a

918
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: team that will make a monster like splash type of move.

919
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: So if that's Miles Garrett, I could see that. If

920
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: that's Trey Hendrickson, I could see that. Charvarius Ward is

921
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: a guy that was with Adam Peters in San Francisco.

922
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of, like, where are the

923
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: connections there with nine ers. Maybe Debo as a second

924
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: or third receiver that's not gonna cost much. Like that's

925
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: where cap space can help. Oh yeah, Debo, you want

926
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: us to overpay you like a little bit. Sure, Like,

927
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: let's bring in Debo for like a fourth round pick.

928
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have to give.

929
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Up much for him.

930
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: I think this was the Deebo Samuel team for a

931
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: couple of reasons. One, obviously, Adam Peters was in San

932
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: Francisco in the front office. That always helps screase the wheels.

933
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: And Two it just makes sense, like because my short

934
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: pitch on Deebo he had pneumonia last year.

935
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: I understand he looked out of shape. It's because he

936
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: was out of shape.

937
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: Like you know, if you ever had normmonia and you're

938
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: a normal person, takes you a month to get your

939
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: win back. You want to reach one hundred percent of nflfleticism,

940
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: it takes a month. So I really think if you

941
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: take out that six weeks after you had pnemonia, I'm

942
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: still a believer in Debot.

943
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: He makes so much sense in this right offense.

944
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: But do you think they should get Miles Garrett, Like,

945
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: do you think way should give up two first and

946
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 4: change for Miles Garrett.

947
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad yeah. I actually people

948
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: get too caught up in like that. Are they trying

949
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: to win now? Like just try to get Miles Garrett

950
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: on your team. I don't know, two first is a lot,

951
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: but now now that first is a late like a

952
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: super late first this year, So you got to see

953
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: what the market is. Maybe all these ed rushers, possibly

954
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Max Crosby Hendrickson being available drives it down. I do

955
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: think they're a team that can go big. Now they

956
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: don't have the pick that they sent away for Marshall Lattimore.

957
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I think you got to count on Marshawn Lattimore. I

958
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: put I disagree with you there. Like they they made

959
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: that trade thinking that's a two year deal. You got

960
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: to just hope he stays healthy. He was a little

961
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: better at the end of the season. They also could

962
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: trade Jonathan Allen. Bill Barnell mentioned that on our show.

963
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: That makes some sense to me because you have a

964
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: couple of defensive tackles that opens up even more money.

965
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: But you're right wide.

966
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: Receiver, like tackle, edge pass catchers, these are all like

967
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: major needs for the Commanders. So they are high on

968
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: the list of teams I think that are going to

969
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: be aggressive. We'll get to the Eagles next, but I

970
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: think these are might be two of the more aggressive

971
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: teams this offseason. Are actually the Eagles and the Commanders

972
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: in this division?

973
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 4: What are the cheer answer is that the twenty twenty

974
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: five Washington Commanders are last year's Texans, where everyone's like,

975
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, see just Stroud Darling, you come in

976
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: and then there's a lot of questions. Now I don't

977
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: I think you and Danie Frankly had a better rookie

978
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 4: year than Droud.

979
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: But I think that you go.

980
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: From that last play schedule to the second place schedule

981
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: and all these auxiliary pieces around him aren't as good,

982
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: and then suddenly high expectations and again happiness just expectations

983
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: minus reality. And I do kind of worry that Washington

984
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: it won't be quite as smooth in twenty twenty five,

985
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 4: and you.

986
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: Might get the year two Cliff Kingsbury effect. I think

987
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: it'd be less about Jaden Daniels and more just about

988
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: the Commanders. I think Commanders fans they got to understand

989
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: that if they win ten games next year and they

990
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: lose a tiebreaker and don't make the playoffs or they

991
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: win nine games next year, they're like, that's fine, it's

992
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: all like, that's that's part of the progress. All right,

993
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's wrap up with the Eagles. My big question,

994
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: what is the how he did it again in trade?

995
00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: Because they're gonna make one. This is sneaky, I'm answering.

996
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer that question, but I'm going

997
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: to give you context of why I'm asking it.

998
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: This is sneaky.

999
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: A team that is actually going to push your chips

1000
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: in the table type of offseason because they've signed so

1001
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: many of their best players long term already, aj Brown, Devanta,

1002
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Landon Dickerson, like so many of their best

1003
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: players are actually on huge contracts, and they're in this

1004
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: very short window before they're going to pay all the

1005
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: rest of their next best players already, which is like

1006
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and Cooper Dejene and Quinnyon Mitchell and Nolan Smith.

1007
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: The one guy could come up with this year that

1008
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: they'd give an Eagles type deal in June, no one

1009
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: notices is Cam Jurgen's. But other than that, they don't

1010
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: really have that many guys to pay, and they have

1011
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: a lot of upcoming free agents, so they're going to

1012
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: feel like they need to replace what is the how

1013
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: he did it again type of move.

1014
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: I think he's going to do something something big.

1015
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean, is Miles Garrett?

1016
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, let's I know that sounds insane, but I

1017
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 4: do think what what the Eagles have been impressive at

1018
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 4: is knowing when to go bargain basement and something and

1019
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 4: knowing when to go all the way. And I think

1020
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 4: they don't. They don't get stuck in no means landed

1021
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: positions a lot. And I know that sounds insane, but

1022
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 4: I kind of do wonder if the Eagles just kind

1023
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: of pull Trigg because you know, the idea of like

1024
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: it reminds me going from Miles Standards to Saquon also

1025
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: kind of reminds me of going from Milton Williams and

1026
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: Josh Sweat to just adding Miles Garrett into this team.

1027
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you mentioned Milton Williams. It's crazy. I have

1028
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: my preliminary one oh one top free agents ready to go.

1029
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat Milton Williams are in my top seven. There's

1030
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: just not that many good free agents. Mackai Beckton is

1031
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: a free agent. Zach Bond is in my top my

1032
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: top ten too. Between those guys I talked about a

1033
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: little bit with bo Wolf last week, you also have

1034
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddter, who they could potentially move on from, or

1035
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: Darius Slay who they could potentially move on from. Like,

1036
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: they have to figure out who they would want to prioritize.

1037
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: My guess is Bond I'll be back. The guys who

1038
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: I think will get big money elsewhere are probably most

1039
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: likely Josh Sweat, Makai Beckton.

1040
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Would it shock me if they.

1041
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Like found a deal with Milton Williams where actually he

1042
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: gets paid a ton of money. No, because he's a

1043
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: really good young player and they love playing good young players.

1044
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: But the other thing they could do is just go

1045
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: big at a different position. Like it could even be

1046
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: like a tight end trade that you don't see coming,

1047
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: or like an interesting, I don't know, defensive line trade.

1048
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: They could they actually could use an interior rusher, as

1049
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: crazy as that sounds, the way they think they would

1050
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: they would look for another interior rusher just add to

1051
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: the mix.

1052
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: No, I agree, and I think that I know that

1053
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: me and say Miles Garrett probably sounds outlandish. The reality

1054
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: is they're going to look for more Zach Bonds. I

1055
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: think that you nailed it in that conversation you had

1056
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: with Bowl last week where I think they bring Zack

1057
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: Bond back.

1058
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: I think that that's a guy that you can't replace

1059
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: this sarily.

1060
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: I think the one hand, yeah, you do want to

1061
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 4: stack the interior rushers, but in terms of paying them

1062
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: McMillon Williams, I'm like, I kind of think that the

1063
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: same way. McKay Beckton probably the easiest right guard job

1064
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: in the league to get coached by just stat Lennaby.

1065
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 4: Part of that, I'm like, it's replaceable at right guard

1066
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: for Becton. You know, you got Jalen Carter and Jordan

1067
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: Davis there. I'm like, that third spot is going to

1068
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: be a turn Like, that's a good place that you're

1069
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: going to be able to cycle guys in and out,

1070
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: you know, And so I think that those are spots

1071
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: that they want to keep investing there.

1072
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: But I think Tyler Steen can fill in for Becton

1073
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: at right guard. I think that.

1074
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, there's a lot of defensive tackles in

1075
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: this draft. I wouldn't be shocked if what they really

1076
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: do is if the Eagles move up in the draft, Like,

1077
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: don't forget they quitin and Mitchell. They moved up to

1078
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: get Cooper to Jen with Washington, which no one talks about.

1079
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: But there's a Chief's Bills dynamic where how do they

1080
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: you know, the Chiefs facilitated the home straight up with

1081
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 4: the Bills. I can't believe Washington could have had Cooper

1082
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: to Jen and probably didn't have him for medicals. But

1083
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 4: I think that the Eagles moving up for a very

1084
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: popular defensive line prospect in this draft, you know what

1085
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: I mean. I think that's something that I could see happening.

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00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have three fifth round picks, so they could

1087
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: use that to move up a little bit. They're a

1088
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: little tighter to the cap than they normally are, but

1089
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: they can make that work. They can move things around it.

1090
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: Like what they won't do is just like run it back.

1091
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: This is not a run it back type of offseason.

1092
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about them, but like they're easy wins.

1093
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: When I was thinking, like, well, what's the easy wins

1094
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: for them? They can open up so much cap space

1095
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: because of those hurts and Antonio AJ Brown rather and

1096
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith deal, so all you have to do is restructure.

1097
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: That's where the owners that actually want to spend to

1098
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: win make a difference. That's why your giants are selling

1099
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: ten percent of the team to get a little cash

1100
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: because they don't have as much cash as guys like

1101
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lorie. It's why Jeffrey Lorie already did this, and

1102
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: they're spending that cash. They're selling it to these investors.

1103
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: It's this new NFL rule where you can open it

1104
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: up and then you suddenly get cash, and then you

1105
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: give Hurts and Brown a bunch of guaranteed money and

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00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: then you spend it. So if you're looking at the

1107
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: two it sounds crazy to say, but probably the two

1108
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: thinnest position this roster is so good is probably it's

1109
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: probably the defensive line, Like it's the edge rusher.

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Speaker 3: It's just funny to say after watching the Super Bowl.

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00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: I know, but Brandon Graham might retire or as a

1112
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: free agent, like does he come back?

1113
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1114
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: And then so their best at rushers right now are

1115
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith and Jaylex Hunt. So that's a position I

1116
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: think they'll want to address, and it's a position that's

1117
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: pretty wide open. And then defensive tackle Jordan Davis is nice,

1118
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna want another maybe difference maker

1119
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: with him. So it's like I can totally see them

1120
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: going big on someone. Maybe they're a Jonathan Allen team,

1121
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: if the Commanders were bold enough to do something like that,

1122
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: or a Trey Hendrickson team, they're gonna do something. They

1123
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: might do a couple somethings. Watch out how he's feeling himself.

1124
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 4: I think that I know, I sound like I'm kidding

1125
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: about Miles Garrett, but I do think that them just

1126
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: adding another force Moold. I think that's the same concept

1127
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: as the saque thing, where like Trey Hendrickson, you could

1128
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: lead the league in sacks for the Bengals, but you

1129
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: don't make the playoffs, but you add him to this

1130
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: defensive line, he actually gets better, and Saquon with the

1131
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: offensive line. It's very similar. Just stacking Miles Garrett would

1132
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: better on the Eagles that he ever was on the Browns.

1133
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: Probably maybe the counting stats wouldn't be as good, but

1134
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: like his impact would probably be better than it ever was.

1135
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: And so I kind of think Trey Hendrickson. Trey Hendrickson

1136
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: actually makes a lot of sense to me. If the

1137
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: Bengals are interested in moving in, but overall agree the goals.

1138
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: They're not going to run it back. And unfortunately they're

1139
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: better at this than everyone, which is crushing.

1140
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: They're really set up to do well, and yet they're

1141
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: also it's tough to handle a super Bowl championship. They

1142
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: did an okay job of it last time that that

1143
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: team they ran back had a chance to make some

1144
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: noise in the playoffs when they came back didn't. Didn't

1145
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: happen for him, but they were a decent team. I

1146
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: think they might, I mean think they might struggle. Like

1147
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts feeling himself how he feel everyone's going to

1148
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: be feeling themselves.

1149
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: I think I think it could be tough. I think

1150
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: you hear you.

1151
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: But I also think this Eagles team is the Legion

1152
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: of Boom reincarnated. I think this defense is exactly like

1153
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 4: the Legion of Boom, the first one when everyone's about

1154
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: to get famous and everyone knows their names. I think

1155
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts is in a lot of ways the new

1156
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Different style, but like very similar where the

1157
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 4: offense is his offense. He's a human cliche. Everyone looks

1158
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: up to them as kind of a weird dynamic, but

1159
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 4: as long as they're winning, it's fine. And I think

1160
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: that they have a lot in common. All they're missing

1161
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: is is the nickname for this defense. And there's no

1162
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 4: ceiling on this team for the next season.

1163
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited. We're gonna have Colleen Wolf on our

1164
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: show on Tuesday. We're gonna be back in the studio.

1165
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna get her thoughts on the charm life. We've

1166
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: been having a lot of Eagles here, so I'm glad

1167
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: we're getting the NBC East out of the way. If

1168
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: we didn't hit your team today, we're hitting them all eventually.

1169
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: But we do got to hear from Colleen what it

1170
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: was like. She just went to the parade as a fan.

1171
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't even think she worked for NFL network. I

1172
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: saw her flying there and I was like, Oh, she

1173
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: must be working. I don't even think they put her

1174
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: on air. She was just out there getting drunk like

1175
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: everyone else. The Eagles charm Life. I'm looking forward to it.

1176
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: Danny Hipetz, always a pleasure. We will We'll see you

1177
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Let's let's let's get a beer, Let's do something.

1178
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: We'll do it.

1179
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna save the sinner talk for Indie will go

1180
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: live and just give Center Center.

1181
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: What do you?

1182
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: What do you?

1183
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Yes, they they suspended the number one tennis player in

1184
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: the world for doping violations, but it just happened to

1185
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: coexist in like the three months of the calendar that

1186
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: doesn't include a Grand Slam.

1187
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: It's a little little Does it bother you or do

1188
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: you not care?

1189
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't really bother me.

1190
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Speaker 1: I mean his excuse that he was getting massaged and

1191
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: it was like on the hands of the massagers. I

1192
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: just hate when the worst people in the world and

1193
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: then the sport are the ones that are the maddest

1194
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: about it, which is like Nick Kurios and Djokevich. So

1195
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: that immediately makes me think, like I don't want I

1196
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: don't want Yanix Center gone for for a year or two,

1197
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: so I'm.

1198
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: Fine with it. I don't know what, I don't know

1199
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Speaker 2: what to think. What do you what do you think?

1200
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Speaker 4: Uh? Wellios, I kind of think he's the next Macenroe.

1201
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: His commentary is really good.

1202
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: O kind of he is good, but he does enough

1203
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: that annoys me that now I'm kind of sick of him.

1204
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: But yes, I won't get to see him when I

1205
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: go to Indian Wells in a couple of weeks, so

1206
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll Missonick Center there all right, play the music, Eric,

1207
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. Uh more to say, I

1208
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: can barely speak. Hifitz is the man like I, like

1209
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: I said, check out the Rigger Fantasy Football Show with him,

1210
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Danny Kelly, Craig.

1211
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: Robooks great impressions.

1212
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I will be back, like I mentioned in the studio

1213
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: with Jordan Rodriguez, the Athletic and Colleen Wolf. And yes,

1214
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: when when we're gassing up the Eagles again, you know

1215
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: it's Greg season.

1216
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: See you next time.