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Speaker 1: and welcome inside Final Hour the Dan Patrick Show. This

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Speaker 1: back on Monday. As we kept the boat rolling over

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Speaker 1: the course of this week, Robin, are you and I

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Speaker 1: doing our second show of the week together, And as

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Speaker 1: we get used to things, I'm seeing just how deep

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Speaker 1: your hatred for the Patriots. Actually, it's really, it's really amazing.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate anybody. I'm I'm I'm a reporter. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a fan. I don't hate the Patriots. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if they win or lose. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady wins and loses. I don't care if no,

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm one of the most objective reporters who

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Speaker 1: has ever covered Tom Brady. I'm calling it the way

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Speaker 1: I see it, and a lot of people, Hey, Chris

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Speaker 1: Canty and everybody else. I know, we had a little

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Speaker 1: fireworks this morning. But it's all good. Really, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Brady and objective is what I is what I

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Speaker 1: get when I when I think of you and looking

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Speaker 1: at and on this and I'm a bleeping Jets fan

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying this. I mean, I mean, look, I've

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Speaker 1: had to watch Tom Brady just work my division for

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Speaker 1: the past twenty years, and oh, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: had to watch Dan Marino do it for the fifteen

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Speaker 1: years before that. So I haven't had a path to

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Speaker 1: the AFC East title since I was twelve years old.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fifty still got in nineteen sixty nine, so

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Speaker 1: just hang on to that. Before I was born, as

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Speaker 1: before I was Bornsten, listen, just think about this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: When I was twelve years old, all right, I thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: everything was going to be great. Then the Dolphins draft

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Speaker 1: one of the top five quarterbacks of all time running

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Speaker 1: the AFC East for the next sixteen years. Then I

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Speaker 1: get an off year in two thousand, right, I get

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Speaker 1: a year where no one's there, and then in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one Tom Brady shows up. And I've had

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Speaker 1: him since two thousand and one. So since I was

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Speaker 1: have never had a season where the Jets and my

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Speaker 1: the division where the preseason division favorite. For thirty six

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Speaker 1: one of the top five quarterbacks of all time. That's

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Speaker 1: been my sports life in the National Football League. No,

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Speaker 1: I get it, And finally some breathing room and then

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Speaker 1: is it automatic or it's Buffalo? Is it the Jets

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Speaker 1: You know, And that's the thing we'll get to a

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Speaker 1: I know the Bills. GM talked about this yesterday that hey,

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots are still the team that is running

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Speaker 1: the division. You know, a couple of unnamed personnel people

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Speaker 1: think the Dolphins, if they get the right draft at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: could potentially contend because they got a lot better in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. You know, I look at this year as

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Speaker 1: think that's what the Patriots are gonna wind up doing.

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Speaker 1: waiting for a year or two. But you know this

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Speaker 1: They've gotten old. They don't have a lot of playmakers.

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Speaker 1: But you know Belichick is dying to prove that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: every all that's attention on Tom Brady, watch me win

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Speaker 1: with nothing, right, watch me win with absolutely nothing. And

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Speaker 1: because of Belichick they'll stay in contention. But I see

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Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC East will probably be five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Ishes well, it'll be competitive, it won't be a great division,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna go there as a free agent, knowing all

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Speaker 1: that's a fair analysis. It's hard to believe that they're

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Speaker 1: don't see it. I don't see what they have to

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Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of quarterback he's gonna be. Obviously

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Speaker 1: the presses and I want to read that story, but

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Speaker 1: we never see that story. Now, look, are you believing

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Speaker 1: in the end, I'd love to see that that gutsy

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Speaker 1: What I'm trying to pin They gotta give up draft

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Speaker 1: way to move up to get you know, just to

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Speaker 1: get to even if Matt Patricia gives them a sweetheart

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Speaker 1: what the Lions are gonna do at number three, right,

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Speaker 1: Towah simply because look at the circumstances in the world

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Speaker 1: this is not the right decision because it's not like

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. You drafted me, looked like he was going

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Speaker 1: say we have no choice but to take say Quon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a generational talent, and you know, Barkley was

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Speaker 1: if they don't take TWOA and he turns out to

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Speaker 1: be a star. Well, Chase Young looked like he was

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Speaker 1: going to be the best defensive player in the draft

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Speaker 1: since Lawrence Taylor, So they're over hyping him to make

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Speaker 1: it's wrong. That seems like that's where they're going. So

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Speaker 1: now three is where the draft really changes, and the

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Speaker 1: Lions can put the NFL on one track or another,

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Speaker 1: depending on what they want to do, because if they

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Speaker 1: because he's rising up draft boards, which you knew he

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Speaker 1: Because look, there was a reason why there was tank

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Speaker 1: for Tuah. This guy was that good. All he did

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Speaker 1: was get hurt and now he's healthy. Yeah, it'll be

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Speaker 1: it should I just don't see I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: think the Lions. If I'm the Lions on with that pick,

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Speaker 1: to have that opinion. But now you go on TV

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00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 1: and you call a guy a turd, that mean that's

428
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: that you're going over the line there, that's crossing the line.

429
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean that that that word you could I love

430
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: a strong opinion, you know, I do, Jason, and there's

431
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. But that word used in that

432
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: situation of circumstance is over the line. It really is,

433
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it's kind of of part and

434
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: parcel to who Rex Ryan is, you know. But I

435
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: feel like Rex has hit the point where it look

436
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: when he was going to be an ex head coach,

437
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: right he was getting into the broadcast booth, so many

438
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: people said, Oh, Rex is gonna be so great, He's

439
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna be unfiltered, He's gonna be awesome. And I knew

440
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: he was just gonna be okay because he still wanted

441
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: to get back in the league as a head coach. Right.

442
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 1: He still thinks of himself as the Jets head coach. Right,

443
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: he still thinks he's he's the head coach of the Jets.

444
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: You see him talk. He still thinks that's his job.

445
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: You know, He's been gone for years now. But when

446
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: he got into the broadcast booth, I knew he still

447
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: wants to be a head coach. He's gonna do what

448
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: most people do when they want to have a career

449
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm gonna go light with my analysis.

450
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: And breakdown because I don't want to alienate myself from

451
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: the from the business and the brotherhood. I want to

452
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: be able to get back in. But now, after all

453
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: these years away, he's realized no one's given me a

454
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: head coaching job. So now screw it. I'm going to

455
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: talk like I talked to the Jets and the Bills

456
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: when I was there coach, and I'm gonna call a

457
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: guy a tird if you want to do that behind

458
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: closed doors when you're on having a film session and

459
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: you want to say, look, and I want to tell

460
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: you Revs or I want to tell you whoever he

461
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: used to find Gilmore. Look, this guy is a turd man.

462
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: He quits on plays, he does X, Y and Z.

463
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: You know that's something you're talking to your team and

464
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: you're firing them up, and that's that's fine. But you

465
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: go on TV and you call a guy a tirt.

466
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: It's like it's the you know, like or not like

467
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: a guy, whatever you think. Basically, you just went on

468
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have name calling sessions. Now, can

469
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: you call the guy a tird? Can't have name name

470
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: calling you. You can give fair analysis the points that

471
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: he makes, all the other things he could have He

472
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: could have had other stuff to say. Hey, in the

473
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: in the second half in a final UH final, eight

474
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: minutes of a final twelve six minutes of an NFL game,

475
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: A Maori d's are his numbers? He disappears, do you

476
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like to back up your point,

477
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: you could do something like that, But I just the

478
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: name calling. Me and Rick Barry got into a big

479
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: fight on the radio once because you called me a

480
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: loser and you could. You could criticize me all you

481
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: want push back. He's a he was a former great player.

482
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: He could disagree with my point of view. Chris, I

483
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: mean Jason, and I don't you know, I'm well, I'll

484
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: talk like Chris Berus. Sorry. I like Rex Ryan. I

485
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: don't love him, but I like him. You know, I

486
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: get it. But Rob, you go ahead and explain, but

487
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: you but you know what I'm saying. In but when

488
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: you get to that, and he called me a loser

489
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: right on the radio, and I just wouldn't accept that.

490
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: You could say that you disagree in my opinion, You

491
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: could whatever it is, but name calling should never be accepted.

492
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: That that's that's wrong. I don't care if you're an

493
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: analyst television, radio, no name calling. Yeah, I mean it's

494
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: it's also it's disappointing, you know, it's disappointing to hear

495
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: that here's a guy I'm gonna get into name calling now,

496
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: even even though hey, you know, I'm on TV and

497
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm giving my opinion and look, like I said, Rex,

498
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Ryan has earned the right to have an opinion about

499
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: players because of what he's accomplished in his career. But

500
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: when you go down, it's like, when you go down

501
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: to name calling, it's like I stopped taking you seriously

502
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: because now it's like you're just looking for what do

503
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: you want to just start name calling or cursing. I

504
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: feel like you're just looking for attention, right, and that's

505
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: where and that's where Rex is going with this. Now,

506
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I haven't been getting the attention I should have been

507
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: getting as an analyst because I've wanted to get back

508
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: in the league. So I've really pulled my punches and

509
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: he has. I mean, he's not been someone who's moved

510
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: the needle, you know, and everybody an ESPN thought he

511
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: was going to be when he came in. So now

512
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna I'm gonna

513
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: use language, and that's gonna and that's gonna get me noticed,

514
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: which is which is really sad. But unfortunately that's what

515
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: some people are gonna respond to in this country. Look, now,

516
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a big deal today. You know

517
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big deal for Rex Ryan today,

518
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But as low as common denominator

519
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: name calling and stuff like that, that's not where you

520
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: want to go. That's not how you're to get respect

521
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: from appears, your other analysts who are on television, or

522
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: even the players. If Rex Ryan comes around and is

523
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: looking for information or whatever, are you giving them any

524
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't think as a player would you give him any.

525
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you give them anything. You can't cross

526
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: that line. That's a big mistake today. Yeah, I mean

527
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I would guess, and I'm just

528
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: guessing because if I know where Rex Ryan works, you

529
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: and I both worked across the street there, and you

530
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: you understand that, you know with that, certain places fight

531
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: perception all the time. Look, this is why I always say,

532
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, I've had my radio career now as long

533
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: at Fox as I've had at ESPN, and I can't

534
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: tell you how great it is to feel that I

535
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: can tweet whatever I want to as long as I

536
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: don't go overboard. I can tweet whatever I want to.

537
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: And Fox doesn't care if I'm entertaining and I'm doing

538
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: the right thing and I'm bringing strong opinions, they don't care.

539
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: But across the street they really care. And I would

540
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: bet at some point in the next hour you're going

541
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: to see some kind of statement. I was out of line,

542
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: I was overboard because guess what the cowboys are gonna

543
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: call and say, what are you guys doing? Why is

544
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan calling our player a tred You're right, You're right,

545
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 1: you're right, We're sorry, And there's gonna be some kind

546
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: of apology either from ESPN or from Rex Ryan, because

547
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I know how that place works. Not about it right now,

548
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: he's being called into the principal's office. You know how

549
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: it goes right joining us now on the hot line.

550
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of guys who have been we all know across

551
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: the street. Uh, former NFL All pro you find him

552
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: on speak for yourself. Fox Sports. One NFL analyst, one

553
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: of the good guys in sports, Marcellus Wiley. Marcellis what's happening. Man,

554
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: what's up I'm doing? I'm doing great, man, sounds like

555
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I missed the firestore. What's going on in the building. Well,

556
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: if you called Amari Cooper a tred on ESPN, what

557
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: would what would be the immediate result for you after

558
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: you got off the air? I really don't know because

559
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: I've never say nothing like that. That's what Oh no, no,

560
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you would. But if that's what would reaction,

561
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: that's what Rex Ryan you did? Man, I know these

562
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: people are out of control. Man, It's so funny. I

563
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: don't care who you gonna will walk of life. You

564
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: get into this calm, controlled, air conditioned setting and you

565
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: start thinking you bigger than life, getting this guy complex.

566
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: I've been talking about people in the media and people

567
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: of platforms really being disconnected from the grind for so long,

568
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: and no lie, because I played both sides, obviously as

569
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: an athlete and now being in media. I love the

570
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: return fire from these athletes when we just sit up

571
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: there and act like we could do all things. And

572
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: so I don't know exactly the details of this, but

573
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: I don't care how sorry you are. In a professional sport,

574
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: You're not a turn You're not a scrub. It's just

575
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: all relatives. Some guys are greater than others, but they're

576
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: all black belts, so show some respect. No doubt about it.

577
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: That was over the line, and we will be hearing

578
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: more about that. Go ahead round, all right. I was

579
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: gonna say we were talking earlier about Tom Brady going

580
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay. My only question marselves, why do you

581
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: think Tom Brady didn't have as many offers? There were

582
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks, four or five

583
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: teams that made moves, but Tom only had two offers.

584
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: The Chargers, who of course need to sell tickets in

585
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: that new stadium and they have some weapons. They offered

586
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: him a deal, and of course Tampa Bay, which hasn't

587
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: made the playoffs in twelve years. Why do you think

588
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: there were so few offers for Tom Brady? Was it

589
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: the money that he wanted, which was two years guaranteed,

590
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: or was it that he's forty three and we saw

591
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: a bad year from Tom Brady last year? Yeah? I

592
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: think it's it's the latter. I think it's a forty

593
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: three and it's not just so much age. It's age

594
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: and the decline. And they mapped together and they became parallel,

595
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: they became congruing. Like you saw Tom Brady win the

596
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: MVP a few years ago, and since then, all of

597
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: his numbers have to mind in major statistical categories. What

598
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: has covered that up and given it some better cosmetics

599
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: is the fact that the team has won. And you know,

600
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: he went to two of the last three Super Bowls

601
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: and won one. So we get it to a team

602
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: concept and we start saying, hey, Brady's not as bad

603
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: as advertised. But then when you get that ISO cam

604
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: and every player has been in the locker room, been

605
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: in the film room before, has seen the ISO cam.

606
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: When they don't look at the crowd, they don't even

607
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: hear the broadcasters voice, You don't see your teammates. It's

608
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: isolated on you and your performance only. And if you

609
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: look at it through that narrow lands, tom Brady has

610
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: taken a step or two back, but he still has

611
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: the physical skill set necessary to win in this league.

612
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: He's still gonna be one of the better quarterbacks in

613
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: our league. But Tom Brady's a great in terms of production,

614
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: not just Accolade. Production certainly is a little different now,

615
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: a little less than he was a few years ago.

616
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: All right. I had look up congruent to make sure

617
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: we say it on the radio, and uh, it turns

618
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: out it's okay. It means yes, Jason, don't no, you're

619
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: not And Jason, don't be Jason, don't be mad because

620
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: you didn't go to Columbia and you went to Syracuse.

621
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: Because both Marcellis and I are Columbia proud Columbia grad.

622
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: So that's right. So Jason, you wouldn't understand that going

623
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: to Syracuse. Listen, I wanted to go to college where

624
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: my team was gonna win football game. So hey, hey, Mike,

625
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: drop drop right here. We got no comeback. Still, I

626
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: still wear my my Columbia sweatshirt and hat. I don't care.

627
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: That's right. We're pride, you know. Marcellas you talked about

628
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Brady and I kind of see the next two years

629
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: for him not like you know, look, Peyton Manning was

630
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: was different, you know. But this it's gonna kind of

631
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: play out like Joe Montana's last couple of years with

632
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I think he's going to have moments this

633
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: year where he go, boy, Brady can still do it.

634
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of talent, He's got a lot

635
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: of weapons. The defense is young, it's pretty good. I

636
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: think he'll do enough, especially you're adding a playoff team.

637
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: He'll get them into the playoffs. But you're gonna still

638
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: see the decline. He's not going to find the fountain

639
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Speaker 1: of youth in Tampa Bay. Well, you know, it's interesting.

640
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: We're asking two different things in terms of a limited market.

641
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: And obviously you only had a couple of suitors because

642
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: of the age, the decline, the birth certificate was really

643
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: yelling at teams. But now he lands in Tampa with

644
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: those weapons, it's going to be able to dress him

645
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: up even more so than before. And he didn't have

646
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: those weapons. In New England. He had a thirty five

647
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: year old Julian Edelman who was coming off a p

648
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: D suspension because he knows he's on his last legs,

649
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: and that was your number one, your number one. Trust

650
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: me as a former defender. If we look at an

651
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: offense and they say Julian Edelman is their best threat,

652
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, this is gonna be fun. And

653
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun for New England Patriots, especially offensively. Last year.

654
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: The defense was stout, it was good. Some say it

655
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: was a little over hyped based on their rankings, and

656
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: they weren't as good and we saw at the end

657
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: of the season that kind of catch up to him.

658
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: But I think tom Brady's gonna really hit the ground

659
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: running with Bruce arians his style of play, taking shots,

660
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: something that Tom Brady couldn't do necessarily last year because

661
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: he didn't have the weapons. But we've seen him do

662
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: it before in the past when he did have those weapons.

663
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I think he could still do it physically. And now

664
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be with Chris Godwin, Mike Evans. You talk

665
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: about Jones in the running Game off, He's gonna he's

666
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty. No matter how que he is, He's

667
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: gonna get enough makeup to make himself look beautiful next

668
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: year in trust you know what Marcella's I'm still not convinced.

669
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: I remember everybody when god Guy over the Browns last

670
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: year when the OBJ trade and they look on look

671
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: at their roster on paper and they went from a

672
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: million to one to fourteen to one to make it

673
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I can go on and on

674
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: and on, and you know what, the Bucks I get

675
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: it on paper. But tom Brady at forty three and

676
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: the way he looked last year, even when they were

677
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: eight NO last year, I thought that was the worst

678
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: eight NO team I had seen. I'm not convinced that

679
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: they're going to the playoffs. I'll still pick Atlanta ahead

680
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: of them. I'll still pick New Orleans ahead of them.

681
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced. I still think Tom Brady has something

682
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: to prove. All I hear that, I totally get it,

683
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: Especially in football. A lot of times you look at

684
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: these teams in terms of talent and you start playing

685
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: the name game on paper. It never turns out as

686
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: good as it sounds on paper. It never does because

687
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't factor in the intangibles, the immeasurables, the things

688
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: you just can't get a ruler out and take measure

689
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: and figure out about a person and the player, and

690
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: also the chemistry how to gonna work together. Will there

691
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: be an osmosis effect in terms of Tom Brady and

692
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: his winning just landing in that locker room and it

693
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: spreads around that locker room if it becomes contagious or

694
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: is it as tom Brady's kind of isolated as what

695
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: he used to be, but who he is now is

696
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: not igniting this team and they may not connect so

697
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: that's the scenario. But if I had to bet the house,

698
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet on that scenario. I would bet on

699
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady's going to hit the right guy, hit

700
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: him on time, and if he can't push the ball

701
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: down feel like he used to, then we're going to

702
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: just open up the short the intermediate passing game and

703
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: having Oj Howard and having that tight end core, they

704
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: just have so many levels with Tom Brady is gonna

705
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: have something to feast on. So this is a buffet

706
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: right now. I think in New England it was a

707
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: little more customized and specialty to Tom Brady and his

708
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: limits and the limited options. But in Tampa it seems like, hey, man,

709
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: once you walk through the door, the world is yours.

710
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if they could play it out, but somebody

711
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: sneezed on it, so we'll wait the worse. Oh man,

712
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: that's the worst. Hey, you think we're gonna get anything

713
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: from him? In his interview with Howard Stern next week,

714
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna light the Patriots up, because I

715
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: just don't see that happening with him next week. No,

716
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: not in that respect. I don't think he goes there.

717
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: His legacy is tied to New England forever more So,

718
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: why would you ever want to burn the place you

719
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: left when you know you got to return there in

720
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: terms of legacy and in terms of memory. So he's

721
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna always protect the Patriots, and I think that's why

722
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: he actually quote unquote made himself the recruiter in terms

723
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: of going to Tampa Bay. He didn't let them recruit him.

724
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: He said, I want to go to Tampa Bay. And

725
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: I think that's a cleaner break from New England versus

726
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: New England having to deny Tom Brady or Tom Brady

727
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: saying something bad about New England. Therefore he go there.

728
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: So it really silences a lot of the criticism. But

729
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna see more of his personality, and certainly in

730
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: this interview he's gonna say something that you're gonna say,

731
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: WHOA the New England Patriot tom Brady? The Patriot way

732
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is behind him. I think that's what's occurring.

733
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: And it even started in New England with TV twelve.

734
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: I remember what it was, twenty thirteen. He started TV

735
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: twelve and Tom Brady and I crazy enough share a

736
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: marketing agent, so I can't blame the agent when I

737
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: don't get deals because I know Tom Brady getting all

738
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the deals. It's not that agent, it's on Marcellus. But

739
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: I remember talking to him and just hearing behind the

740
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: scenes what tom Brady was really trying to create. And

741
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: since TB twelve started in the facility next to the

742
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: Patriots facility, and his branding, his marketing, his Facebook show,

743
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: the T shirts, him copyrighting things. Tom Brady's like, I've

744
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: been suppressed in terms of my personality enjoying my workplace.

745
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: He's had tremendous success. His trophy Bantel looks better than

746
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: any football player ever. We get on that, but we

747
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: all also do what we love and we love doing

748
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: it and we love where we are doing it. And

749
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: I think that's the part of the equation that gets

750
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: lost on people. They see a Super Bowl ring and

751
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: they think he's supposed to smile every single day, every

752
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: single way. But Tom Brady didn't enjoy to the fullest

753
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: going to work like he should. I think that's going

754
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: to change in Temple. You can follow on Twitter at

755
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Marcellus Wiley. That's at Marcellus Wiley hosted Speak for Yourself

756
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports. One former All Pro and most importantly

757
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Ivy League Hall of Famer Marcellis Wiley. We're not always

758
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: conflue with you. I always conflue with here on the show.

759
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: But hey, brother, I love saying that, man the all

760
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: of time. I only got one Hall of Fame to

761
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: go to Canton. I'm coming Canton never, but I'm coming.

762
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: You can. You can buy a ticket like everybody else. Right,

763
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: all right, brother, appreciate that taking easy Marcelis. Yeah, would

764
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: he dropped a congruent on us, Robin. I'd like to

765
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: drop some words once in a while, like conflagration or

766
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, but he dropped congruent, and I was like, well,

767
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: that's I like that. I'm I gotta use congruent more

768
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: often in conversations. You know. I can't even get that out,

769
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: so I'm not even going that route. You're a writer,

770
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: you should words like congruent. Yeah, that would never appear

771
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: my column ever. Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith, Rob Parker

772
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: in for Dan and the Dan Nets. Coming up next. Hey,

773
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: We're going to continue on this big story involving Rex

774
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: Ryan and what's next. When you call an NFL player

775
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: returnd on national television, you'll hear it. This is Fox

776
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

777
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Awards

778
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f

779
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: SR to listen live. Maybe Rex Ryan has a job

780
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: on Monday. Maybe he doesn't. The big NFL story this hour.

781
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Thanks to Marcellus Wiley for stopping BYO a few minutes ago.

782
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, former Jetson Bill's head coach, went on ESPN's

783
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: Get Up earlier this morning and was talking NFL, and

784
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: Rex decided when he was asked about Amari Cooper and

785
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Cooper's new five year, one hundred million dollar contract, he

786
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a big fan of it. But then Rex being Rex,

787
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: went all the way to the line and then really

788
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: crossed over it. Take a listen to me. This is

789
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: the biggest disappearing act in the National Football League. He

790
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: doesn't show up on the road. He doesn't show up

791
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: against when the competition's good, when he's against the top corners,

792
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: that guy disappears. This is who he is. And Dan,

793
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't love football. Hell with it. He stops his routes.

794
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: He does all this. I wouldn't have paid this turn,

795
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: no way in hell. All right, So he goes funny

796
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: jump in after that. I don't know. Look, you and

797
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: I are doing the show, so I don't know if

798
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: someone jumped in and said anything or if they just

799
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: very nervously tried to cover it. I mean, look, you're

800
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: not You're not expecting to hear your analysts call a

801
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: player a turd, you know, and you know, look talking

802
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: about Rex, you know this hour on the show. Look,

803
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: Rex is bombastic. He's someone We've seen this language from

804
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: him before, but this was We've seen it on Hard Knocks,

805
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: We've seen it behind the scenes as he's the head

806
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: coach of the Jets and the Bills. You are a

807
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: national analyst now and you're appearing on television and maybe

808
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: you finally decided screw it. I got a little bit

809
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: of IDGAF in me because I'm not getting back in

810
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: the NFL as a head coach, which is the job

811
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: he really wants to get back in. So now I'm

812
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: just gonna let it, let it loose. Now, I'm gonna

813
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: say whatever I want to. And then he goes and

814
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: he calls a guy a turd. Look to talk about

815
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: him being overrated and not being worth the money. That's

816
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: one thing for him to say listen. He puts up

817
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: great stats, but he you know, disappears in big games

818
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: and cuts off routes and doesn't try. Look, that's hot

819
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: take ish, and that's fine because Rex has been a

820
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: head coach. He earned he's earned that right. But Rob,

821
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't just come you go on TV

822
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: and call a guy a turd? What what kind of

823
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: person are you? Where you're saying? Okay, I no longer

824
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: can just have a conversation about things. I'm gonna go

825
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: after a guy and call him a turd. Can't do it.

826
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: The name calling, and especially like for that to come

827
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: out of your mouth on national television, that's that's alarming

828
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, seriously, you got to understand the

829
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: ramifications of that and what that you know, and what

830
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: that will mean to you as you go into it.

831
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Like you say, everything else is in bounds. If you

832
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: could come up with numbers just to help your argument.

833
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: I've always said this whenever guys would call him to

834
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: my radio show years ago in Detroit and they'd rip

835
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: a player and say, you know, he can't he's not

836
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: a clutch player. He can't hit in the ninth inning

837
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: or when you need a big hit. I'd always say,

838
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: if you come on and say that, that's fine, but

839
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: if you tell me that in the last three years

840
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: he's batting oh ninety four in the ninth inning, then

841
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: you know what, you got an even stronger argument. You

842
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: just can't make blanket statements because last night the guy

843
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: didn't get a hit in a big spot. So my

844
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: point is, if you want to do that, and you

845
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: want to take down to Maori and say he's not

846
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: worth the money, build a case based off of numbers

847
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: and stuff that people can look at and go, I

848
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: didn't know that, Jason, Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And then you have a stronger argument. And now watch

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Speaker 1: the damage control. Because ESPN is so cognizant of their reputation,

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Speaker 1: gonna light rex up. I bet you the Cowboys call

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Speaker 1: and say, what's your guy doing? Calling our guy a

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Speaker 1: third and you're gonna see some kind of public apology

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Speaker 1: at least maybe a suspension, because ESPN is gonna want

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Speaker 1: to say, hey, everything's fine, to worry. We love the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: we love the NFL, we love everything about this, but

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a big firestorm. I would. I

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Speaker 1: would get bet you're going to see something within the

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Speaker 1: next couple of hours. To that extent, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I've been to the principal's office. You've been to the

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Speaker 1: principal's office. That will definitely happen. Fox Sports Radio. You

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