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Thank you 23 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to another cap of Brown 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Girl Hour. In this capitol, we're going to be talking 25 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: about fem tech and what that means. Um. We want 26 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: to explore the ways women and fems of color have 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: created technology in accessible way is we all know that 28 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: a lot of restrictions have been placed on our learning 29 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: and education historically, and in so many ways, our brilliance 30 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: is resurrected and manifested in these like techno historical ways. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 31 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: And this the idea for fem tech. For this is 32 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about for a while. Yes, 33 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: we've been letting it brew, We've been sitting on it, 34 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: we've been doing our research to really cultivate this idea 35 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: and our fem tech content is not only going to 36 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: be limited to this correct And it's also really hard 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: because I think Mala and I are both really impatient people, Like, 38 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: once we have an idea, we really want to put 39 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: it out there. But we have been like Mala said, 40 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of like letting this idea of like what fem 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: tech is, let it, letting it culminate in our brains. 42 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: And like we've been now, we've been seeing everywhere, and 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: we've been seeing like inspiration everywhere. So I'm really excited too, 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: really a veil like all these different ideas in this 45 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: cup and share with y'all. Um. I think like first 46 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: and foremost, like we can talk about really like not 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: maybe not very subtle them tech um or like maybe 48 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: our first intro to some type of like stem as 49 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: women as young girls has been like through cooking, through 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: sewing mala for you, Like, did you first of all, 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: do you like to cook? I do like to cook. 52 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: I enjoy cooking. And my grandmother is and my grandfather, 53 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: both of them, they are the cooks in the family. 54 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: And as we all know, cooking is very much a science. Yes, 55 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: that must be really that must be a really interesting 56 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: fusion because as I remember, your grandpa is Puerto Rican. Yeah, 57 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: he's from Puerto Rico and so and my grandmother is 58 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: from Jalisco, Mexico, so the cooking that they do is 59 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: very different. Yeah, that must be delicious. It is delicious. 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: There's always something good to eat. I'm always trying to 61 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: eat flood then as we close in Peru also and yeah, 62 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: so do you like, do you have a dish that 63 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: you like to cook or that you remember learning as 64 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: a young girl. Well, something that my grandmother taught me 65 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: how to make um is themalist because she makes them 66 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: quite often, and there's definitely a science behind making whatever 67 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: time are making. So I think that was one intro 68 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: and another intro to kind of like fashion. But even 69 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: like I would say, like it's I feel like there's 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: a lot of engineering that goes into fashion and the 71 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: construction of clothes. Absolutely, there's a pattern. It's like so scientific, 72 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: very scientific, undeniable. And my grandmother and we'll because we're 73 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: definitely descended from like my grandmother and my great grandmother 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: worked in sweatshops in l a and they sewed in factories. 75 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: So sewing and pattern making and all of that stuff 76 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: has always been a big deal in my family. And 77 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: so my grandmother, like she may her own wedding dress, 78 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: she would make all of my mom and her siblings 79 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: their clothes. And my mother is of professional flamenco dancer, 80 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: but she makes her own costumes, you know. So I've 81 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: always been around the sewing machine and sewing, and my 82 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: dad's mom when whenever she had a new grandchild coming, 83 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: she would um quilt. She would make a new quilt 84 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: right for the new babies. So on either side of 85 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the family, you saw those very like traditional firm methods 86 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: of creating, cooking, sewing, pattern making. And it's something that 87 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I saw a lot growing up. Yeah. Interesting, Um, I 88 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: feel like I I don't really have that kind of 89 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: like memory. First of all, because my mom hates to sew. 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: She still hates to cook, like she won't admit it, 91 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: but she hates to cook. She like her and that's cool, 92 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: Like she didn't like it. I'm like, you don't have 93 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to and sewing also, so I feel like I don't 94 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: really have that exposure from my mom. But for all 95 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: the other women in my life growing up, like everybody 96 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: had like their own little like niche like what they 97 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: were really good at. Like one day I was really 98 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: good at cooking, the other one was really good at sewing, 99 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: and she would like make dresses. And I know for 100 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: my mom, her THEA and Michinko would make her dresses 101 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: all the time, like a new dress every week, you know, 102 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: because that was like her her little baby um and 103 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: on my dad's side, same thing. Like everybody was good 104 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: at something. I think my one l designed hats at 105 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: the point, like in Peru, she was like designing hats 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: like millin yes, and then my thea like she when 107 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: she moved here from Bedu when they immigrated, she was 108 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: also working in a factory here in downtown l A. 109 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: And she kind of did like the whole fake it 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: till you make a thing, like I think that her 111 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: Her boss was like this Armenian man and he like 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: saw or she was like always like trying to do more. 113 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: So he saw something in her, so he started like 114 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: saying like can you do this? And she'd be like yeah, 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: but she had no idea, but she would literally create 116 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: it and she would learn and she would force herself 117 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to like learn these different patterns and she became really 118 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: successful and like had like a business in Mexico and 119 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Bidu and like was just like an entrepreneur, you know. 120 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: So I think, like we have models in our families, 121 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: then maybe we don't necessarily see them as like these 122 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: like stem tech like brilliant creators, but they really are 123 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: are yeah, and what they're what they're expressing and the 124 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: sewing or the weaving, um printmaking, pattern making, dyeing cloth. 125 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: All that stuff is what has been historically for centuries 126 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: practice as a means of surviving and creating. But also 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of our ancestors are fem ancestors have very 128 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: much been limited right to only utilizing certain forms of 129 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: knowledge and production that are accessible to them because you're 130 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: not allowed to go to school. What are you? Where 131 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: are you channeling your genius? Exactly right? I know you 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: hearing you say that, like thinking of our fem ance history, 133 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking about like Mohas and Vinas and fidu 134 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and like how like dies created, like for like Yama 135 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: and like alpaca, like you know, like the wool, like 136 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: how it's like died and how it's like an actual science. 137 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: And when I was in like we um, like someone 138 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: did a demonstration about I was at a a cooperative 139 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: type of thing and um it was like run by 140 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: a family, like like a few different families and they 141 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: were like showing us how they like take natural colors 142 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: and like diet. You know. So hearing you say that 143 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: reminded me of that trip um. I know that you 144 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: actually have and like a really brilliant example about sewing 145 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: and weaving. Tell us about it, Yes, absolutely so. Um, 146 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do with this, right is talk 147 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: about how women women of color, indigenous women, indigenous fems 148 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: have been participating in technology, g and innovation for centuries, right, 149 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Like we've been creating and our ancestors have been creating 150 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: for centuries. But quite often what the production and the 151 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and the inventions made by indigenous women, by black women, 152 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: by brown women, by fems are often undervalued and considered 153 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: either frivolous, not that intricate, not that innovative. They're they're 154 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: completely undervalued because of who creates these products, and because 155 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: they're not, their utility is not recognized. Right. So we 156 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: saw a contemporary example of very ancient fem knowledge now 157 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: being utilized like in biotech. Yes tell us, yes so 158 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: we I bet a bunch of people have seen this. 159 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: But there was an article that made its rounds in 160 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: different publications, and Reclad did one, and Remesclad did an 161 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: article about Eyemata women from Bolivia, indigenous women who were 162 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: using their very traditional weaving techniques and weaving patterns to 163 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: create heart implants for children with heart defects. So I 164 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: guess there was some biotech company that decided to take 165 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: on these eyemata women as employees. And they're really they're 166 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: like in laboratories weaving the actual physical little tiny heart 167 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: implants by hand. Right, because based on the research that 168 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: I've seen and based on the journalism around these women, 169 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the type of sewing, the type of intricate work that 170 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: goes into a heart implant is even more intricate than 171 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: machines can accomplish. Right, So they needed something so technical 172 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: that machines could not you know, performance. So they needed 173 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: to go and reach into a very like old, old 174 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: like pool of knowledge. So you have these indigenous women 175 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: literally saving lives and doing so in a biotech yeah, 176 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. Yeah. And I like how 177 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned or you touched the on the fact that 178 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: a lot of these these knowledges are undervalued, right, and 179 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: because of who's creating them and who's producing them, it's 180 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: like not seen as important. It's not like scientific, it's 181 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: not genius. It's not genius. Yes, And if we if 182 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: anything with our fem tech theme and content, we what 183 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: we want to establish is that women of color our geniuses. 184 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: We are and have the geniuses for many centuries. And 185 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I think also like we bring our community with us, 186 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, like I don't see that from white men, 187 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: and I don't see that from like white women, like 188 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I see like them like what is that word like nepotism, 189 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Like I see that kind of like unfair ship where 190 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: it's like they the only reason they get ahead is 191 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: because they know people, not because they're act were genius 192 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: lies where they have the funds their idea exactly, but 193 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: like us, like no, we will bring on people with us. 194 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's like almost commonplace now, Like 195 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: every other day you hear some like some stories, some 196 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, human interest piece about oh, such and such 197 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: third world child learned how to create a helicopter out 198 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: of cardboard, or you know like such and such individual 199 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: in in an oppressed situation created like uh, you know, 200 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: like some crazy invention where they could give clean water 201 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: to their whole village, you know what I mean. So 202 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: you see these examples a lot of young people, young 203 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: people of color, marginalized people, black and brown people, indigenous 204 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: people who use like the little resources that they have 205 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: to do what you're talking about exactly, uplift the community. 206 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Youth tech right in a third world content us to 207 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: uplift their community. This is a really good transition into 208 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: what I'm bringing today, which is UM. This also did 209 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: an article on her and her organization. Her name is 210 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Marianna Costa and she spewana UM. She started an organization 211 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: called Laboratoria and it began two and a half years ago. 212 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: And UM. What they're trying to do is give access 213 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: to young women and teaching them how to code. And 214 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: what I really like about it is that it's a 215 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: six month training as opposed to like two or three years, 216 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: because that is so much more accessible. Because I'm positive 217 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: that these women while they're training or they're in the 218 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: six month course, they're also working. Obviously, yes, so years 219 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: it does not know that does not work, like especially 220 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: if you have a family support, especially if you're like 221 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: the one of the younger ones in the family, so 222 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: you're expected to work and give money back home and 223 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So these women in are being taught 224 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: to code, and they're you know, doing the damn thing 225 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: because they're after they graduate, they have like higher rate, 226 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: you know. And I want to say that it's expanded 227 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: to Mexico and chilem and it's just really dope because 228 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: she had a vision and she was like solid that 229 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: the women in her community just weren't given access to things, 230 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: access to certain resources, not because they couldn't, you know. 231 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: So she took it upon herself to teach young women 232 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: to code, and she has like investors. Now she's just 233 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: like really expanding on what she's doing, and I think 234 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: that's really wonderful. Yeah, No, that's amazing, And I mean 235 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: it's so true. It's like the fact that women of 236 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: color are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering, mathematics, we believe, 237 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: I believe is completely antithetical to our history exactly. Look 238 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: at like there's so many examples, like look at our 239 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Fami women ancestors. Look at our firm women ancestors. I mean, 240 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: when we talk about for example, like if you want 241 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: to talk about like Machu Pichu or like Aztec pyramids, 242 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: right or Mayan pyramids, and you want to talk about 243 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: advanced societies and astronomy and all the things that are 244 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: people were practicing for centuries, I imagine that our ancestors 245 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: were living in a different sort of historical context than 246 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: we live in now, and that women were able to 247 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: participate in different levels of society in ways that have 248 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: been difficult for us to achieve today. So like, for example, 249 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of conversations on Twitter about how 250 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: different minority groups will talk about you know, it's difficult 251 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: to celebrate oh, the first you know, African Americans PhD 252 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: In chemistry, or the first you know, Mexican astronaut, or 253 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: the first such and such, you know, because there's this 254 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: assumption that our history has only been like a few 255 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: hundred years long, and so it's like, well, no, I'm 256 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: sure that there were a ton of black astronomers and 257 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, physicists before colonization and slavery, and there were 258 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: probably a ton of indigenous engineers, you know, and scientists 259 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: and librarians and all of these things before colonization. We've 260 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: been doing these things for a long time, for centuries. 261 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: But post colonization, it's like you're starting from literally starting 262 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: from zero. That reminds me of that meme of it's 263 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: like me linking everything back to racism and colonization, and 264 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: like that's literally, like I think about that all the time, 265 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Like literally that is the rule of so many things 266 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: that have gone wrong. So because of that, you know, 267 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: like us who come from a long line of geniuses. 268 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: And I use that word intentionally and I'm not exaggerating 269 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: when I say women of color historically our geniuses, you know, 270 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm not going to use a different word. 271 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: That's the word. That's what we are. So the fact 272 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: that like we are, like fems are more known for 273 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, beauty or cosmetology or nail tech or you know, 274 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: hair versus engineering, it's because that's where we were allowed 275 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: to channel our genius. Right that reminds that's a really 276 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: good um transition into our next topic. We have so 277 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: much to say about that, but before that, I think 278 00:17:26,520 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: we should go into a song break um um um 279 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: um es of it and ship don't feel like sitting 280 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: in a waiting room right now. Planned Parenthoods got you 281 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: covered as a leader in using new technologies to provide 282 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: high quality healthcare in ways that fit your life. Through 283 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: Planned parenthoods Virtual appointments, you can get high quality, affordable 284 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: care your way by phone or video. 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Check out planned parenthood dot com slash 293 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: look at Dora to learn more and book a virtual appointment. 294 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: That's planned parenthood dot org slash look at moving Forward. 295 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: We want to talk about the very accessible ways and 296 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: how fem tech has manifested in both of our lives. Um. 297 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: So we want to talk about like beauty and hair 298 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: and nails and all that kind of beautiful fem adornment. Um. 299 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: I think, like like fem like there's so much fem 300 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: phobia in and like that's why, like our fem tech 301 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: is undervalued, you know, because it's like not it's seen 302 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: as extra, it's frivolous, it's not necessary. It's in the 303 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: way the way like the ship that people give me 304 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: that I do not ask for their opinion. They give 305 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: me ship because of my nails and their length. And 306 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't ask you, and like I have 307 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: been rocking and curling nails for years now. You know, 308 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: and of course I give my nails a break here 309 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: in that. But obviously if there are this link, like 310 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: I can get ship done, I can write a dissertation 311 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: if I wanted to, you know what I mean. I 312 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: got through my undergrad through them. I'm in my job, 313 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: my big girl job. Now I spend my monthly reports 314 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: to my director. Yes, you know, like they are not 315 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: in the way. But it's like, if you want to 316 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: be quoted professional, you can't have this kind of like 317 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: long adornment, right, you can't have your bold lipstick in 318 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: a in a meeting room with the executive director of 319 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: or a funder of your nonprofit. But watch me, I will, 320 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: you know. So I think, like we just have so 321 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: much to say about like fem tech and like fem economics, 322 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: like economy, you know, an entrepreneurship, and like especially being 323 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: from the hood or like living in the hood, your 324 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: families from the hood. However like that may look for you, Um, 325 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: we can see like the way informal economy has manifested 326 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: and there's a market for like fem adornmant you know. 327 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean it's so interesting because nothing 328 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: that women do that fems do is without some type 329 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: of a history or some type of a trigger, a reason, 330 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: a context and origin. You know. So like even just 331 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: you talking about nails, right, So why are we talking 332 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: about beauty? Well, because historically beauty is one of the 333 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: only accessible avenues for production, expression for careers that women 334 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: have had. So we jumped into it and have flourished. 335 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: And there's a science behind it, Like I'm telling me, 336 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: there's not a science between behind like getting like the 337 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: right length of your acrylic the shape that history. Yes, 338 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: you have to know what you're doing. They're using tiny 339 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: machines and drills and a lot of electronics that that 340 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: that go into it, depending on what kind of salon 341 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: you're going too. And like also if you think about 342 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: like nail are like where that originated from? Hello? Like 343 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: no out by Kim Kardashi and Kylie Jenner. No, they 344 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: did not originate that ship, no way. But um, like 345 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: even that, like the folks that can that can create 346 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: that type of art on a tiny little surface, you know, 347 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: they're brilliant. It's actually brilliant and it's wearable. It has 348 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: to be somewhat durable, it has to be somewhat tough. 349 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Like there's so many different elements that go into a 350 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: set of acrylic nails. Somebody told us actually shout out 351 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: la la. She told us about this like bougie nail 352 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: salon that I'm sure many of you follow on Instagram, 353 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: but I will not name them. And she said she 354 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: got her nails downe there, you know, paid the like 355 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: expensive tag basically the price for them, and within a 356 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: couple of days they all broke off, you know, and 357 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: our twenty dollar sets, Like, how durable are they? You know, 358 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: very extremely extremely yes. And actually, speaking of now art, 359 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: we wanted to bring in some history. It's really important 360 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: to be intentional. So we were doing some research about 361 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: nail are and we knew that, you know, there's a 362 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: lot of different types of people that that do nail art, 363 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: that participated in nail tech. Nowadays, there's even kind of 364 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: like nail art like reality shows. There's like conventions, conventions. 365 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: It's a big industry. It's huge, eight billion dollars, I think, 366 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: we read yeah, but some it's an eight billion dollar industry. 367 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: I read this article on this website called take part 368 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: dot com, and um, this writer named celest Wang did 369 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: a story about the fascinating story behind why so many 370 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: nail technicians are Vietnamese, right, so we know a lot 371 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: of nail technicians a lot of people that work in 372 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: nails are Vietnamese are our Asians. Somehow, Apia Api and 373 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: uh So Celeste Wang did a story about how this 374 00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: actress Tippy Hedren was involved in working with come unities 375 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: of Vietnamese refugees in California and basically bringing skill and 376 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: job training UM to the different like camps where they 377 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: were staying while they were transitioning right from Vietnam to 378 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: American life. And so they were in refugee camps and 379 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: something that the women took to was nail tech and 380 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: working in nails. And according to this article that we 381 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: were reading UM today the mail industry is worth about 382 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: eight eight dollars and about eight percent of nail technicians 383 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: in southern California are Vietnamese and across the US. So 384 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: here you have this history where the beauty, the technology, 385 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: the economy had This had so much to do with 386 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: women of color in a state of being refugees, yes, 387 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: you know, and needing to survive exactly like in a 388 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: state of emergency, and that type of brilliance, like that 389 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: creativity had to come out like the nessis that because 390 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: at which is a lot of where economy comes from, 391 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: Like there's a need, like you're surviving for your family, 392 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: for yourself, absolutely, and I think of all Like in 393 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, for example, there's a lot of little salonasa, 394 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: little beauty salons where it's all latin As, Latino X 395 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: women you know who either they run the space or 396 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: they rent out boots to other Latinas are Latino X 397 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: people to work. And it's all having to do with 398 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: they're creating, they're providing a service, but they're also feeding 399 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: their families and their communities, right, and it's all through beauty. 400 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: And not only that, but it's like think about the 401 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: community that's created in these like nail salons, beauty salons, 402 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Like it's cheese my hour in so many ways, Like 403 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: and it's also like your venting session, like you tell 404 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: them like about what's going on in your family, and 405 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: like maybe they hook you up with somebody that they 406 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: know because they know somebody that they know somebody you know. 407 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: And it's like also another form of survival because more 408 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: more than likely, like you live in the area where 409 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: you get your hair doneat your nail stand, you know, 410 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: I know that's true for me. Um. And there's also 411 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: like the informal salons that exists, like in the garages 412 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: and people's houses, renting a room maybe to cut someone's hair. 413 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Right the gym that I go to, she like is 414 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: creating because she's also a hairdresser and like this nutritionist 415 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: and she's like now they just moved locations and she 416 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: has like a big room where she's going to start 417 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: to do hair. Like she's like creating like something totally 418 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: different and totally brand new. You know, we'll not brand new, 419 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: but like in the sense that it's a gym and 420 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: hair salon, I think that's pretty cool. Define that is 421 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: some self care and self love right there, you know 422 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: it really is. Yeah, yeah, And I even wonder, you know, 423 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: like how many because we can talk even about like 424 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: feminists on a global scale and global economies, so there 425 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: are so many layers to it, because like feminists is 426 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: at once like constantly constantly like consumed and I'm justified 427 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: and used for purposes that are not healthy for us, 428 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: right like our and our bodies and and and all 429 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: of that are used a lot of times to oppress us. 430 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: But when I think we take our feminists into our 431 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: own hands and we're projecting it and utilizing it for 432 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: our own purposes. That's a totally different scenario exactly. That's 433 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: when like when people want to say, like, oh, feminist capitalists, 434 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: it's so this, it's so that, because like you're spending 435 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: to get something done. You know, you're buying your shopping 436 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: as the flora, Like what are you doing for the revolution? 437 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Like hold on, you know what at that minute? Wait 438 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: a second, Um, yeah, I think that's like a really 439 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: really important part that you're touching on in terms of 440 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: like fem identity and like once we're taking our identity 441 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: into our own hands and like using however that like 442 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: fem adoration, like adornment looks for you and that type 443 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: of fem worship for yourself, Like it doesn't have to 444 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: be makeup, it doesn't have to be like this kind 445 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: of that like everyone's adornment looks differently, right and like 446 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: for us, like this is what it is, you know. 447 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: And I'm even thinking like how if we're talking about 448 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: what are you doing for the revolution, how many sen 449 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: who work in like a fem industry, who cut hair, 450 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: who do nails, who do makeup? I wonder how many 451 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars in remittances are sent abroad, 452 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: are sent back home and are feeding families off of 453 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: money that was made doing nails and hair. You know, 454 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish we had a number. I wish 455 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: er thousands and thousands of dollars. Yes, money on in babysitting. Yes, 456 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 1: you know, money off of cooking. You know the types 457 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: of technologies, the types of fields that were always relegated 458 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: to and limited to. But we're contributing and also owning 459 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: it and then making it like you're you're you're making 460 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: it your own business. You're becoming an entrepreneur, entrepreneur, So 461 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: that's you're like taking it into your own hands and 462 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: you're like, this is what I'm good at, and then 463 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: this is what I'm a genius at. So I'm going 464 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: to make a business off of this, exactly. And one 465 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: of the best examples of that is is Madam C. J. Walker. Yes, 466 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Madam c J. Walker, also known as Sarah breedlove Um. 467 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: Madam c. J. Walker was her public name, her business 468 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: name Madam Madam I love It, Madame Delson exactly. So 469 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: she was an African American entrepreneur, She was a philanthropist, 470 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: she was an activist, and she is known as the 471 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: first female self made millionaire in America. Yeah, she did it. 472 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: She created her empire and her millions off of beauty 473 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: products for Black women. Right. She saw a need. She 474 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: saw that there were not enough products specifically targeted towards 475 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Black women for their skincare, hair care, nail care needs. 476 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: And she created products that were healthier than what was 477 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: out there. That we're safer than what was out there. Definitely, 478 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: there had to be chemistry involved, there had to be 479 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: science involve aolved and the marketing and the entrepreneurship, you know. 480 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: And so Madam C. J. Walker is just one of those. 481 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Another a genius, you know that. I don't think it's 482 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: celebrated enough because she was working in beauty and beauty 483 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: for black women especially so especially, it's maybe not something 484 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: that everybody hears about or knows about or sees that. Yeah, 485 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: sees it as like some type of tech like stem 486 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: but literally like folks that create their own makeup, like genius, 487 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: like women of color that do that, because there are 488 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: a lot of like women of color and like black 489 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: owns makeup brands and like the actual genius because there's 490 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: a science behind it. It's not just some like let 491 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: me put this in a really pretty package and sell 492 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: it for thirty dollars or however much. You know, It's 493 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: like there's actually a science going to get the right shade. 494 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: And especially if you're working with our community, you know, 495 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: like that my red isn't going to look good on 496 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, but like working with all these 497 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: different skin shades and like taking into it, taking into 498 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: account that you want to be inclusive of you're serving 499 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: like a very broad community. Like that's that's a science, 500 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: like to find a read that somehow looks good on everyone. 501 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Like how little literal science. And I mean we can 502 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: we can talk about fem tech and talk about social media, 503 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: yes right, I mean we engage in tech every day 504 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: all the time, multiple types of tech on multiple platforms, 505 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: multiple devices. I mean this podcast is fem tech because 506 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: we have struggled and we have we have really really 507 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: had to learn how to use a lot of things 508 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: just to create this podcast. You know, because not because 509 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: we like I don't want to know about these things, 510 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: but it's like they weren't talked to us or either 511 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: we thought maybe it wasn't as important or we're like 512 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: we get frustrated. No one was patient with us to 513 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: teach us how to fucking code, you know what I mean? 514 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Like even creating on website has been difficult, and you 515 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: and I have been like in the process of doing 516 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that for a few months now. We're working on you know, 517 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: everything is for us has been like we're literally learning 518 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: as we go. As we go, and like I think 519 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: not only this like segment or just as as a whole, 520 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: like the podcast is fem tech, but even like what 521 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: you and I do on social media. Oh yeah, absolutely, 522 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: it's all fem tech. I mean, engaging with your computer, 523 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: engaging with your phone, engaging with the microphone, with the equipment, 524 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, with the recording software that we use, all 525 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: of that is fem tech because we're using it for 526 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: fem purposes exactly like we're doing it, so it's fem tech. 527 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: And like that's my thing is I don't care if 528 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: white people or men find what I'm doing to be 529 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: valuable or important. You're not the barometer for you. It's 530 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: not for you. You don't decide what is useful and 531 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: what is not. You don't decide what is brilliant and 532 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: what is not a because you have trash taste and 533 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't trust it, number one, you know, So there's 534 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: that and number two, we know that what we're creating 535 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: is brilliant and it's in staying. Yeah, absolutely, you know. 536 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna put ourselves in the in the 537 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: in the tech category, right, And that's new, Like I 538 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: feel like that's a new kind of thing that we've 539 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: been talking about that maybe we didn't expect this podcast 540 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: to turn to go on that route, but like the more, 541 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: like we had said in the beginning, like the more 542 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: that we've been thinking about like what fem tech is, like, 543 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: the more it relates to so many things in our lives. Yeah, 544 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure like as we continue to think about 545 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: this topic, as we continue to move through life we 546 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: hear about family histories, we're going to see more examples 547 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: of fem tech like in everyday life and in our 548 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: upbringings and our family histories. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm interested to 549 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: hear like or to see more. I've been thinking about 550 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: this a lot because I feel like I don't really 551 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: have any type of knowledge about like my Mexican side, 552 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: which is something so new for me. Because I grew 553 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: up really close to my mom, so my my mom's family, 554 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: so my Mexican side. But the more that I think 555 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: about it, like my grandparents are both dead now, you know, 556 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: and we don't have any type of family history, any 557 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: type of ancestry because my grandparents died when he was 558 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: a baby. So and the more that I yeah, I 559 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I've been thinking about it a lot lately, 560 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I don't have any 561 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: history in that way, and that's kind of stressing me out. 562 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: But with my dad's side, there's so much history because 563 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: we're all here and we're all fucking really close, and 564 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: it's annoying sometimes. But I know that there's so much 565 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: like stem and tech in that side and my dad's side, 566 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to, like you think about this 567 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: more and developed this before. I mean, the other day, right, 568 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm like in my grandma's house and she I walk in, 569 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: and my grandma, who's like eighty three years old, she's 570 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: a little old lady. She's from Mexico and when she 571 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: came to the US, she was sixteen, and the first 572 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: thing she did when she came here was working people's houses. 573 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, and she raised kids for white people and 574 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: clean houses. And she went to night school and eventually 575 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: she got her a A her associates degree, and she 576 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: worked in accounting. She was an accountant. Grandma Natcha was 577 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: an accountant for many years. And then she would sell 578 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: like you know, like princess house, like crystal, So she 579 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: was hustling. She was doing a lot of she would 580 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: sell tupper wear, all kinds of stuff. But she has 581 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: a very mathematical mind. The other day, I'm walking into 582 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: the house and I see her at the table and 583 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: she has all these papers spread out on the table 584 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: and I look and she is just adding up all 585 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: these numbers and doing all these calculations. And she's like 586 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: doing all this math, like big numbers. And I'm like, Grandma, 587 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And she's like, well, I don't 588 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: have an adding machine, so I do it all in 589 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: my god stuffy she does so, like all of her bills, 590 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: her taxes, everything, it's all with a pencil, just by hand. 591 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: That's how it's been done. That's how it's been done. 592 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: And so you have this woman who's just this tiny 593 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Mexican lady. She's great, who's awesome, and who has done 594 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: so much in her life and she is so good 595 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: with numbers and just in her head. And a lot 596 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: of us, I feel like we were raised on calculators. 597 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah we haven't. We don't have that anymore. 598 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah for me, Like also, like math has been such 599 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: so traumatic for me for many of us started right, 600 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, low key. I think the reason I 601 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: picked my college majors because I didn't have to take 602 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: math literally, which also stifled me in so many ways 603 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: because I was like I wanted to avoid a trauma, 604 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: so then I went for something else that actually was 605 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: really traumatic. And my college experience is sucking awful with 606 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: the department I was in. But that's the story. But 607 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: um yeah, so for me, like it's like so many 608 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: of us, like young girls, especially of color, it's like 609 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: we're taught that we're not good at math, Like girls 610 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: are naturally not good at science. That's what we're told. 611 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: Like girls are bad at science, we're better at the humanities, 612 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: are better at reading and writing. So that's what that's 613 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: the career that you should stick to. And a lot 614 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: of times it's not just like necessarily the messages that 615 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: are given to us. But like how are our math 616 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: and science programs at our schools, you know, Like we 617 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day when we were 618 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: first coming up with this idea. When I was in 619 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: eighth grade, we had four math teachers because they just 620 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: kept getting cycled out and they would quit and they 621 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: would leave. Towards the end of my eighth grade year, 622 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: RPE coach was the math teacher. But that's because they 623 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: de needed someone to watch. Oh my god, it happened 624 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: to me one time in high school. The soccer coach 625 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: became like the sub math teacher. She was teaching us, 626 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just like I know that that 627 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: has an effect, that has a negative effect. I was 628 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: most traumatized by math in high school. I was taking 629 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: calculus and the teacher was this white guy I shall 630 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: not speak his name, like it's horrible, and I just 631 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: have so many memories of just sobbing like in his 632 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: office like all the time. That was me. It was 633 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: my third year of high school. I had a nun, 634 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: this one girl nun a teacher, and she literally failed 635 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: so many people, like it became a thing where people 636 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: were like petitioning to like remove her from the department 637 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: or from what like being a math teacher, and she 638 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: was so mean, like I would cry all the time. 639 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: And I'm positive she knew that I was like a 640 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: little queer. I'm sure of it. So you think that that, 641 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: I think for sure. I mean my high school had 642 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: four hundred people. It was small. It was sucking tiny. 643 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: Everybody knew, like there weren't very many of us that 644 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: were queer and young, you know, in high school. So 645 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure she knew. And yeah, math is traumatic. I 646 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: would cry all the time, like I would like, yeah, 647 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: I would hyperventily, like I would get anxiety going into 648 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: her classrooms. I knew I would fail her class. Like 649 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: every time I took a test, I was like, it 650 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I do, I'm gonna fail. Like that 651 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: was my mentality, you know for maths. It was really shitty. 652 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: Um yeah, So I like hope that one day with 653 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: all these brilliant women that are doing like the coding 654 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: and and they're doing it for young girls, Like I 655 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: hope that one day young girls like feel like so 656 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: empowered by STEM and also art. Yeah, you know, absolutely absolutely, 657 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: I just thought of something. But you know, I feel like, 658 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, how we hear how back in the day, 659 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: like historically, like to prevent pregnancy, like women would just 660 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: put like a little stone. Yes, you know, like I 661 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: feel like that that is like reproductive tech like back 662 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: in the day. That's just like ancient, which is also 663 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: being usual. I can't say it's used for like breath control, 664 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: but like also you see like this this um interest 665 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: in like Yoni eggs and just like healing crystals in general. 666 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: I feel like they're like the conversation right now, which 667 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: is really good for folks that are using it correctly. Um, 668 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: but yeah, like a Yoni egg is like used to 669 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 1: like strengthen the pelvic floor and like, which is really interesting, 670 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's also like a quote ancient, you know, 671 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: ancient yeah, but still genius. Yes, And I don't know, 672 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: there's just something about like I don't know why people 673 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: hate like on nails so much, like on not long nails, 674 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: because I cannot when I'm wearing my acrylics. I feel 675 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: like a fucking like bionic woman. I am the badest. 676 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,240 Speaker 1: I feel like an android. I feel like Cindy Mayweather, 677 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: like oh my god, we didn't like we didn't really 678 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: like talk about this too much, but I remember you 679 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: sent me like I want to say months ago before 680 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: fem said, maybe even before this podcast was even an 681 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: idea in our minds. But I remember you sent me 682 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: something about a woman that like put her like MetroCard 683 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: or something in her nail so she would just scan 684 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: her nail right right, right right for like when she 685 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: had to get on the metro or whatever. I saw 686 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: it on Facebook somewhere floating around. But see things like 687 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: that were brilliant. Girls just come up with ship. But 688 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: you know what, a lot of times, when like women 689 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: of color, especially when black women like innovate like that, 690 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: it's considered like, oh, that's ghetto or that's ratchet, you know, 691 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: like always it's in the negative right when no, it's innovative. 692 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: That is so genius because if you think about like 693 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: all the time you'd save, like say you have the 694 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: big old purse, right, or you have something and you 695 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: have to search and whatever you're running late, it's genius. 696 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: It's in your nail, like absolutely that literally at hand already. Absolutely, No, 697 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: we innovate all the time, like just as women and 698 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: like as fams, there's always innovation. There's always new ship, 699 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: Like there's just everywhere there's brilliance. I also like create 700 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: or invent. I don't want to say invent whatever. I 701 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: find ways to make things that I can't do without 702 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: my name with my nails happen. Does that make sense? 703 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm creating another form of doing something, 704 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: so I don't tell me that I can. That's where 705 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: I feel like a bionic woman because I'm like, the 706 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: nail has now become like this functional like extension of 707 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: my plans. Yeah, it's fucking cool. It's oh my idea, 708 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: it's really cool, like book transformers, like you know, like 709 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: fems Like that's that's for me. I'm like, that's the 710 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: ultimate transformer. The fem is a transformer like in real ways. Yes, 711 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: I agree. Are and something that we haven't really talked about, 712 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: which we're kind of coming towards the end, but you know, 713 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: I guess we can kind of summarize some of our 714 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: main points right of why we wanted to talk about 715 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: fem tech, and this is going to be an ongoing 716 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: conversation because we're going to present fem tech in a 717 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: workshop as a workshop form eventually and we'll tell you 718 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: more about the different events we have coming up. But 719 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: what we want to relay in all of our conversations 720 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: of fem tech is how historically women in fems and 721 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: our tech and our innovations right have been channeled into 722 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: areas that have been most accessible to us. For example, beauty, sewing, weaving, 723 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: home economics. We don't even really touch on like the 724 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: brilliance of weaves and how that is actual skill in art. 725 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: We can save that for the future before another come back, yeah, 726 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: for sure. And then the other the other idea that 727 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: we really want to push is that fem tech is 728 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: undervalued and has been for a long time. And one 729 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: of the reasons is due to what fem phobia, fem 730 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: phobia always in tech, fem phobia in general, yes, in school, 731 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: in life and education. Right, if a little girl has 732 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: an idea, like an engineering idea and it involves baking, 733 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: that might get shot down, right versus the little boy 734 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: who wants to do something with cars that might be 735 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: considered more engineering oriented or check oriented, you know. Um. 736 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: And then theem tech and economics like intermingle with entrepreneurship. Yeah, absolutely, 737 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: there's I mean we touched a lot about that about 738 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: like the like informal economy, in formal businesses, you know, um, 739 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: creating like your own beauty salons, your own type of 740 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: like giving I don't want well, yeah, I guess you 741 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: kind of aren't giving back to your community in that 742 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: way because you're creating this like communal space where folks 743 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: can you know, practice our self care if that's what 744 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: it is for them, or their adornment, their worship, whatever 745 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 1: it is for them. You know. However, manifest Um, there's 746 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: so much fem brilliance and that is a whole lot, 747 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: and I want to be clear, we're not saying that 748 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: the only fem tech or the only fem brilliance is 749 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: in beauty and now we're seeing the actual I mean, 750 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: we're saying that there's so much more, but they're like 751 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: where it has been accessible and where it's been channeled into. 752 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: I only want to celebrate it exactly. We're exactly and 753 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: honor it, but also we recognize, like using our examples 754 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: in the first part of this, like the ways that 755 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: it's actual, you know, being like produced in like actual 756 00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 1: stem ways like bioid, like biotech in biotech. Yeah, so yeah, 757 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: we are not just like hair nails and makeup. We 758 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: are so much more that happens to be how we 759 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: adorn ourselves which is brilliant and beautiful and just as 760 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: brilliant as you know STEM because it is it is STEM. Yeah, 761 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: so recognize that, appreciate, recognize, give credit where credit is 762 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: due always, and when you get your nails and pay 763 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: your nail tex tipto nail, those are geniuses who are 764 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: creating functional art on your person. You know, Yes, always 765 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: took well. Any type of service that you're getting done, 766 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: any type of always took well because not only did 767 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: they work on you, but they're going to work on 768 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: so many other people it might not tip them well, 769 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: which they probably don't. So you know, think about the 770 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: support people who are working, who are working hard, Support 771 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: women of color, immigrants or immigrants, leer folks, people that 772 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: are creating their they're creating support them. Absolutely. Yeah, So 773 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: we want to hear what you think about fem tech. Yeah, 774 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: because I'm sure, you know, like the few examples that 775 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: we were able to give from our life and our research, 776 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm positive that there are a lot of more headers 777 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: out there, that there are a lot of people out 778 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: there fems with just like a multitude of examples and ideas. Absolutely, 779 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited as always. You know, um, you can listen 780 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: to us on SoundCloud, on iTunes, leave comments, nives, like things, 781 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: share things. We love reading all the comments and messages 782 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: you'll leave. It's really really exciting. It's really exciting. We 783 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: get so high when they have new comments. We sound 784 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: like screenshots to each other, by the way, so seeing 785 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: like maybe they're not going to read it now, we 786 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: read it and most likely we respond because we always respond, 787 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: which we try our best to always respond. So I 788 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: think we want to do is we want to ask 789 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: you guys, if you have examples of fem tech in 790 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 1: your life, if you are a fem techie yourself, we're fees. 791 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: If you're a fem techie, that's the hashtag we want 792 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: to use, fem tech. Fem techi comment on our posts. 793 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: If you want to repost anything onto your profile, make 794 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: sure you use hashtag look at radio, hashtag fem tech, 795 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: hashtag brown girl hour, hashtag brown girl our um and 796 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: share with us the tech that you were brought up with, 797 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: the fem tech that that the fims before you utilize. 798 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,320 Speaker 1: We want to hear all about it absolutely, So thanks 799 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: again for tuning in. We will see you next time. 800 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: Radio radio Radiomi's a myth and Bullshit, a radio phonic 801 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: novella look at a Radio hosted by I Malamonios and 802 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: diosff fem