1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Crime art I may see grace breaking crime is now 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: our Jennifer Gould standing by Jennifer Nancy. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Just as justice was handed down in the Idaho murder case, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: a chilling new horror erupted in court. Christy Gonsalves, the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: heartbroken mother of victim Kayley Gonsalves, received a menacing death 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: threat during Brian Coburger's July twenty third sentencing hearing. Here's 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Christy addressing Coburger in court. So, while I'm disappointed the 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: firing shot won't get to take their shots at you, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: I'm confident that the men in prison will have their 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: way with you in more ways than one. The sinister text, 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: which is now circulating online read quote sitting near you 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: in court and watching you as a joke. You know 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: that Brian is innocent. Making threats to Brian about getting 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: raped and prison is very silly. I am in contact 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: with a lot of serial killers. End quote. It's shockingly 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: continued quote. I've been in put in contact with a 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: wannabe serial killer who is in Moscow, Idaho, and I 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: have given him your address. End quote. Steve Gonsalves, Kiley's father, 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: confirmed the chilling threat is now under active investigation, he revealed. 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: The family immediately passed the message to their attorney, who 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: is working with authorities to unmask the Texter. Coburger, thirty, 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: a former criminology PhD student, pleaded guilty to four counts 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: of first degree murder and burglary for the horrific November thirteenth, 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two stabbings of Kaylee Gonsalves twenty one, Madison 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: Mogan twenty one, Xana Kernodle twenty and Ethan Chapin twenty 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: He was handed four consecutive life terms plus ten years 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: for burglary, controversially dodging the death penalty. While the Gonsalves 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: family fiercely criticized prosecutors for quote making a deal with 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the devil end quote, they also express profound gratitude for 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak out in court end quote, set 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: the tone end quote, feeling empowered to confront Coburger directly. Meanwhile, 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Dylan Mortenson, a surviving roommate who witnessed a masked, bushy 33 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: eyebrowned figure inside the murder house, has embarked on her 34 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: own arduous and highly publicized healing journey. Mortenson bravely faced 35 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: down killer Coburger in court. Listen, he has a hollow vessel, 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: something less than a human, a bonnie without empathy, without remorse. 37 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: He chose destruction. He chose evil. 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: Dylan has successfully raised over fifty thousand dollars through a 39 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: go Fundme campaign in just two days to support her recovery. Mortenson, 40 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: who faced backlash and even death threats herself, expressed profound 41 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: survivor's guilt and the fear she's felt since she found 42 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: out he snuck into their home and killed her best friends. 43 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: Her fundraiser covers trauma therapy, relocation, privacy, and improved security, 44 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: allowing her to courageously rebuild her shattered life after the 45 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: tragedy and search for peace. While Coburger is writing in jail, 46 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: the grieving families and a shaken community can finally begin 47 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: to find some measure of closure. However, several questions continue 48 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: to haunt the case. The motive behind the slaughter remains 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: a mystery, and where is the murder weapon? But as 50 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: Judge Stephen Hipler sternly advised during sentencing, seeking why only 51 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: grants the convicted killer the very power and attention he 52 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: desires for the latest crime, and Justice News. Follow Crime 53 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Stories with Nancy Grace on Merit TV Monday through Friday, 54 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: seven pm Eastern. Check local listings for channel assignment, and 55 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: follow Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on your Favorite pot 56 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: podcast app. 57 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Nancy Thanks Jennifer more Crime and Justice News after this. 58 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: In a truly shocking act of alleged abandonment that defies belief, 59 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: a Missouri couple stands accused of leaving their baby at 60 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: the Livingston County Courthouse. Jeremy lamp thirty six and Jessica 61 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: lamp thirty one arrived with their infant for a mandatory 62 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: drug screening critical to an ongoing child welfare case. Jeremy's 63 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: test was negative, but Jessica's mouth swab returned a positive 64 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: result for meth amphetamine. A Children's Division official immediately informed 65 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: the couple they could no longer jointly care for their 66 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: son due to the failed test. Presented with options for 67 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: the child's safety Jessica moving out, Jeremy and the baby 68 00:04:54,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: moving out, or temporary relative care, the couple denied all solutions. 69 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: In an astonishing display of disregard. Police alleged Jeremy then 70 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: callously pushed the infant's car seat towards a county official 71 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: who desperately warned them they could not leave the baby behind. 72 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: Despite this clear warning, the Lamps allegedly exited the courthouse, 73 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: abandoning their defenseless infant without clothes, food, or any plan 74 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: for his care. Officers noted their departure was quote without 75 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: remorse and without insuring proper care unquote. Authorities located Jeremy 76 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: and Jessica about an hour later. Then Jeremy reportedly confessed 77 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: his twisted logic to police, stating he figured he would 78 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: leave the child at the courthouse since quote they were 79 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: going to take him anyway end quote. Both Jeremy and 80 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Jessica Lamp have now been charged with child neglect. And finally, 81 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: the terrifying silence of a smoke shop parking lot shattered 82 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: as eighteen year old Emma Marine unleashed a primal scream. 83 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Transforming from victim to warrior in a horrifying flash, she 84 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: turned the tables on her would be abductor, Theodore Michael Tunddor, 85 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: delivering a master class in defiance that earned her the 86 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Saint John's County sheriff Office's first ever Fight Back Award. 87 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: The attempted kidnapping was caught on surveillance video. Listen. Tundador 88 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: had just robbed the smoke shop before trying to drag 89 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: Emma by the neck towards a stolen truck intent on abduction. 90 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: But Emma's spirit proved unbreakable. Her fierce, relentless struggle, amplified 91 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: by a quick thinking bystander, rattled Tundador, forcing him to flee. 92 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: This courageous resistance directly led to his capture and felony 93 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: charges including kidnapping, robbery, and grantham Auto Officials and experts 94 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: say she did everything right, screaming, fighting back, and getting away. 95 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Emma Marines Rock Courage is not just a powerful headline, 96 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: it is a battle cry for anyone facing danger. Nancy. 97 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: For the latest crime injustice news, go to crime online 98 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: dot com and please join us for our daily podcast, 99 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Crime Stories, where we do our best define missing people, 100 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: especially children, and help solve unsolved homicides. With this crime alert, 101 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace