WEBVTT - Best of full interview: 112, Case & Total On The 90s R&B Generation, Biggie's Magic In Studio, Cool Vulnerability + More 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.920 Every day a week ago. Clicks up the Breakfast Club. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.400 Y'all done morning. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.960 Everybody is the j n V Jess Hilarryous, Charlamagne the 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.160 guy we are the Breakfast Club. Law Rous is here 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.160 as well. We got some special guests in the bountain. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.000 Come on now we have one. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:22.640 Twelve you, we have total and we have Case. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:24.479 Man, how are you doing? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.520 And this is not a random link up y'all going 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:29.200 on tour together? 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:31.840 M this is the one. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.599 Twelve Room one twelve thirtieth anniversary tour. We're so excited 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:38.559 about our brother Case and our sister's total with us. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.680 So you know, have a good time. Man. First first 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:42.360 shows win. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:49.280 November health Yeah, November twelve. Staff for Connecticut Brooklyn is 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:50.320 November thirteenth. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.040 So there's a members missing. So are the members going 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:54.800 to be on tour or this is the tour? 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.480 Okay, okay, this is okay, okay, yeah, nice my other 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:06.640 members by yourself, we're made. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.440 Now the right time for all of y'all to come 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:09.280 together for this tour. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.039 Oh that's a great question, bro. Honestly managed it. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.360 It just felt right it being thirty years, you know, 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.679 us being in the game, so it just it just 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:19.280 made sense for us to just get out there and 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.280 just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:23.920 been doing, you know, been rocking out with us for 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.520 the last thirty years man, So you know, we're really 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.520 excited about it. Man, Like we're managed totally and one 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.120 twelve managed by the same you know crew. So of 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.320 course that was an easy, you know decision to make 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.520 with that. And then in case you know, being you 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.760 know bro, Yeah, that's the bro, you know what I mean, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.560 and all of us having that catalog is definitely we 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.800 wanted to bring back that ninety nostalgia you feel and all. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.800 Y'all still sing thank you. That's you know, not everybody 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.280 doing it, but y'all can still sing. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.760 That's important. Good, yes, man. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.680 So were you guys on the road already on tour 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.160 before or you you had to break from family obligations 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:58.320 and be like, I'm gonna need to take some time 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.080 out and get on tour. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.160 We Keisha and I were on. We just started back 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:03.920 a year ago. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.680 We came back out. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.919 We did the R and B tour part of that. Yeah, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.919 we were home. We came my family and. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.440 How difficult was that getting back on the road, getting 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.400 back on dancing, getting back on How difficult was that? 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:17.800 It? 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:19.120 Really it wasn't. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.040 It really wasn't difficult. It's like, you know, like riding bike. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.600 Once you did it done, so it's just you know, 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.040 my kids are older, Keisha still has a high school child. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.480 But so it wasn't hard at all. They're very supportive, 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:35.560 you know. They actually was like, go do it. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.920 Rehearsals was dope. We had to you know, work it 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.240 out a little bit. But like Keema said, it's like 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.880 riding a bike once you get started. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.120 My vibe is very authentic. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:47.320 So it's you know. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.960 But people went through dances from the old videos. If 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.240 you ain't hitting them them. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:57.640 Dances, we danced and we got our box. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.160 How did y'all find that balance back in the day 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.359 between being like sexy was strong, was still street with it, Like, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.600 how did y'all find that balance? 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.040 It was just natural, like that's just who we are 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.840 growing up Jersey, Like how we. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.639 Were, Yeah, and that's what made us. To me, that's 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.080 what made us who we were. Total the name started 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.640 out as total opposites because we were all individuals in 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.640 our own way, you know, So it was it wasn't 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:26.919 like you had to buy the brand. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.480 We came as we were. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:29.359 Yeah. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.200 Yeah, How was the bad Boy ever back then? Growing up? 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:33.400 Right? 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.360 Because there was a time nineties two thousand it was 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.160 nothing but bad Boy in the radio, nothing but bad 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.560 Boy on the streets, mixtapes to clubs. How was that 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.280 era where it just it felt like anything y'all did hit. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:47.920 It was some beautiful things. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.040 It was fun, it was. That's what we learned a 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:53.000 lot of our grind from that whole era. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:55.119 Grinding just out there. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.600 It was going the time like it was just fun. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.600 It was just like a big. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:02.320 Yep. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:06.000 Yeah that's crazy us coming from Atlanta, you know what 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:06.360 I'm saying. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.120 It like it was a different it was like a 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.880 different culture. So you know, you know, you can imagine 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:11.320 how that felt. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:11.640 He's coming. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.680 I know, he's from the you know what I'm saying. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.320 So you're coming to New York culture culture, you know, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.000 so you know, but but it was so much fun 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.600 because it was just like, okay, clubs smaller, but you 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.400 know what i mean. But it was like in your face, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.720 so you know what I'm saying. So, but we learned 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.599 a lot musically here m hmm. What about you for 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.400 you case now, you weren't on Bad Boy, you were 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.360 on Death Jam Jam. You a songwriter, you had you 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.320 have the I always say, you have that one wedding 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.000 song that you will get paid for for the rest 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.440 of your life. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:41.359 Happily after. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.400 That was that was coming up for you in that 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.200 and during that time because at that time you were 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.480 death Jam. Death Jam was heavy pop and you was 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.080 probably one of the only R and B singers at 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:53.400 the time. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:54.440 I mean it was. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.200 It was cool for me, except for the only problem 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.800 that they was learning on the fly how to do 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.520 R and B and so I get caught up in 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.680 that sometime. But yeah, I mean, you know how big 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.720 they was then, so that part was cool. It was 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.360 just a lot of times they had a lot of 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.160 hip hop sensibilities because it's hip hop label. But one 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.200 of the things that helped me was that I was 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.600 the last artist that Russell personally signed to Death Jail, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.760 So I'd always call him and be like, yo, I 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:18.280 can snitch. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.160 The record was gonna be so timeless, like touch me, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.800 tease me happily. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.680 I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do. Like, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.239 I never wanted to make like trendy stuff. I always 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.000 wanted to make music like my parents would listen to 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.560 stuff from like twenty thirty years earlier, and it would 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.479 have me doing it. And so my thing was like, 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.120 if I could do that, then I'd be happy and 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.640 then everything else will fall in line. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:45.159 You worked with a Mary Jay beyond Foxy Brown, who else? 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:50.960 There's a bunch of people ll ghost Face, ghost Face, Genuine, Tyrie, Genuine. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.839 Terry jam and Lewis. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.680 What's a session that changed the way you saw yourself 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:55.240 as an artist? 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.880 M probably Jam and Lewis because I was a huge 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.479 fan and I'm like, I'm sitting in room with Jimmy, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.799 Jame and Terry Lewis and I'm like and they was like, well, yeah, Janet, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:07.720 we're gonna have Janet comes. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.960 She loves you, and I'm like wait. 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.440 Wait wait, wait, like wait wait wait, got a call 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.960 that yeah, yeah, we don't need to do that. I 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:16.599 was just saying, I love I don't have don't have 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.040 a walk in here, because that had have been different, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.279 but it was really that one because I'm like sitting there, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.400 I've been listening to him forever and I'm like dag, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.200 I'm sitting here. Another one was the first time I 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.919 worked with Charlie Wilson. I had wrote a song for 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.960 him and I was a huge fan. And I'm sitting 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.240 in the booth behind him on the floor while he's 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.279 doing his vocals and I'm tripping out like this is 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:36.960 really happening. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.640 So it was a lot of different moments. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.520 I felt like, def Jim didn't treat you like a 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.200 regular artist, right with total. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:45.680 In one twelve. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.240 I would see them out in the club like bad 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.200 Boy would have him Mountain Death Jim artists, Deaf Gim 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.560 would have them mount I didn't see you Deaf Jim 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:53.880 put you out as much like that? 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:55.040 Was it because you didn't want to. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.120 Go out or I probably didn't know what to do 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:56.960 it because he was R and B. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:58.600 I think a lot of it. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.880 Yeah, First of all, I hate going out, okay, So 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.360 if I didn't have to be there, listen, that's why 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.640 you always be like yo, you had a lot of 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:05.800 stuff about you because I know how to. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:08.599 Over here. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.920 So yeah, I mean I wasn't really big on going out, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.920 or when I did, it'd be I'd be somewhere else 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.760 unless I had to be somewhere with them. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.840 Gotcha, did you guys? Well, Mike, I saw you say that. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.400 You feel like, you know, you guys, first album without that, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.640 you don't think that R and B would be as 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.520 prevalent or as worldwide as it is right. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:33.640 Now, Okay, okay, So yeah, because we felt like we 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.720 contributed a lot more than one twelve. You know, we 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.720 walk around with modesty on our shoulders and stuff, and 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.080 I know that that's you know, Huberts to say that 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.200 while you're talking about modesty, right, But yeah, we we 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.520 always walked around with this this mindset that, man, we'll. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.680 Let our actions speak for themselves. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.720 But we would always challenge people like find us because 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.040 our niche in the industry was hip hop and R 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.920 and B. We weren't just hip hop artists, I mean 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:00.520 R and B artists, We were hip pop and R 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.680 and B artists. So yeah, the mind frame was we 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.600 started that whole trend. It's like the way music sounds now. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.480 One twelve had a lot to do with that because 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.840 no one can really give us a group that did 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.280 it the way that we did it before one twelve, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.680 Like as far as singing over hip hop beats and 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.160 stuff like that, like you, I challenged in but find 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.280 me a group that did it. Because back in the day, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:23.520 what you had the A side and you had the 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.320 B side right, and then on the B side, so 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.280 the records, right, they had the records, you had the 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.320 uptempot records where they were singing, but they were always 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.400 all that singing over uptempo beats and stuff. It was 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:35.440 like it was confusing. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.040 Puff. One one thing that Puff told us. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.400 Was like when you're in the club, when you when 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.360 you're recording a record, right, sing the song as if 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.120 you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holler 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:45.560 at the girl. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.319 You ain't gonna be in this girl talking about. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.319 Yeah you gonna go. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.960 I want to be with you, you know what I mean, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.200 It's gonna be something smoothing. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.640 So when we wrote records, when we wrote the uptimbo 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.280 records and then Slim having the voice being able to 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:02.920 just lay on the tracks the way that we did, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.120 like that started an hole ever where people now like 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.520 when you hear R and B it has a hip 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.520 hop element. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.960 To it as well. It's not just R and B. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:12.240 It's a hip hop element. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.480 Isn't that a bad boy formula or wasn't that Diddy, 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.600 Like I feel like Diddy did that like with Jodysie. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.400 I feel like he did that with Mary j Blige 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.720 like he did that with Total. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:20.240 I'll give you that. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.319 I'll give you Mary j Blige because yeah, she she helped, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.040 uh because we always say that Mary is between Mary 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.120 and one twelve, but one twelve really and then yeah, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.199 puff did you know he did contribute because we came 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.240 in with just we are and B we aren't b bro, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.160 like forget all that stuff man like hip hop that's 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.440 gonna cheapen our sound and all this sudden stuff. And 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.360 he's had the vision was like, Yo, this is what's 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.840 gonna separate y'all from the drew Hills, from the Jaggets, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.280 from the you know, the Ajets and all these other 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.800 groups that were coming out at the same time. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.920 And you know what that that didn't make perfect sense, 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.160 right instead of all I would love a nigga to 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:51.439 come up to me and class, let. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:58.000 Me tell you what exactly. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.320 That's exactly what it was because tis out of ten 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.760 ain't gonna be able to sing. So he's like, bro, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.319 all of that in my ear, like I don't want 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.280 to hear all that you know, so that. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.800 You agree with Mike's assessment. Not to start any arguments here, 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.080 but case do you agree with that? 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.040 Yeah, I mean it was, it was part of it. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.480 I mean that during that era, but that's when hip 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.640 hop and R and B was Yeah, yeah, pretty much, and. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.280 I feel like bad Boy was at the forefront of. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.000 Yeah, definitely, yeah, because Total was hip hop with that 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.320 touch of R and B. R and B group, but 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.600 I think we were more base hip hop with the 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.960 touch of R and B. And Mary definitely was the 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.680 pioneer of that sound. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.640 And Total, you guys are some of the I'm sorry, 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:35.400 go ahead shout. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:36.560 Out to No No No. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.280 I was just gonna say when he when Puppe did 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.120 the remixes with Jodasy, because Jodasy was just the R 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.199 and B and then he brought the hip hop elementary. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.600 Ghost facing Ray Kuon on the Freaking You remix, you know, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.560 like I can't even I don't want to hear can't 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.080 you see without Biggie part? Like I hate hated when 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.640 some of the urban AC stations back in the day 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.199 didn't play Raptors, just played the R and B. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:55.240 I hated. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:11:05.280 I mean, yeah, I would go before record. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.240 Yes, because they didn't want you didn't play played. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.160 So how did y'all sign to Puff? When did y'all 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.679 meet Puffing? Puff is like, this is the group that 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:15.520 I want. How did that start? 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:21.520 Because the first time we met Puffy through we met 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:26.280 these guys that introduced us to Kathy. Kathy was from 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:30.600 Mount Vernon, Kathy, Kathy Duke, She's how we met Puff. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.640 Puff is. What's her son's what is her son's godfather? 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:39.120 He's the little baby, the little first baby baby put closer. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.880 So that's how we met him. Can I can I bring? 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:46.840 Can I bring them in? 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:51.800 So Kathy one day when when we were introduced to Kathy, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.720 Kathy was like, I would love to represent y'all manage all. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.840 So we ride and ride and Kathy was like, y'all 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.839 gotta always be ready, always be ready. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.959 So she pulls up, she goes upstairs. She was like, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:02.679 I'll be right back. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.280 She comes downstairs and she was like, Okay, I need 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.400 y'all to make up a song and put Puffy's name 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.600 in it. At the time, Puffy's Puffy, He's actually in 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:14.839 the studio with Josy doing the remix. So he comes downstairs. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.920 He introduces himself and then we just start singing, but 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:18.720 we're performing. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.079 We had him all backed up against the wall and 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.600 ye had his mouth open. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.480 He was like, how do you He asked our ages 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.439 came upstairs. We watched him, you know, direct Jo Tosy, 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.559 and then he asked us how well did we get 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.000 along in the studio, like if we had an argument, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.480 did we get back in the studio? 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.160 And we were like yeah. So he was like okay. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.160 So he was like, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all sound really good. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.319 He was like, yo, I just. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:48.720 Encourage y'all to keep doing what y'all doing, you know, 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.360 don't let nobody break y'all up. Two o'clock that morning 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.240 he called Kathy. He was like, don't take them nowhere 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:53.960 on the signum. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:56.760 What was the first song that y'all did? What was 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.720 the first one y'all recorded? 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.280 Well, we recorded songs that never went anywhere because we 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.240 were just trying to find our sound. But can't you 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.000 no Juicy Juicy. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.760 Juicy was the first record I did and I was 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.960 working with Biggie Amazing. You gotta break it down both 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.280 songs Juicy and the can't you see. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.880 The story behind how we wind up recording. Juicy is 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.040 like Big was like our little big brother. Like we 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.840 were close with Big, so we would frequently be in 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.560 New York hanging out in the studio with him. So 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:27.840 he called this one day. He was like, come to 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.840 the city we was in. He was in the studio. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.200 So we went to the studio and he was playing Juicy. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.280 Keisha started humming something. Big he was like, y'all should 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.000 go in there and put that down. So he, you know, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.000 just gave us some words or whatever, and we went 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.000 in there and we put it down, and Puff had 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.960 us come back the next day and do the one 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:54.079 More Chance songs. So that's how it started. Juicy original 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.520 one More Chance, the one on the album is different 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:56.880 from the. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.440 With the voicemail in the front. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.000 Need to work on that. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.600 Juicy, It says it now when you google it. But 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.000 I assume that it wasn't necessarily supposed to been a 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.920 feature for me because it was his first single and 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.800 stuff like that. So yeah, and I think, you know, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.199 we were new. I don't think it was something that 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.200 just happened. Like we were in the studio and we 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.880 got in trouble. It was our maners like, don't do 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.920 that no more. But I just think they didn't plan 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.760 for it to be Biggie's first album to have a 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:25.280 feature on it. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.000 Did y'all get writing cres for it? No? 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.440 No, because Big wrote it right. 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.560 I didn't know y'all was on Juicy al and we 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.880 know those records more chance. Dirty Version is like one 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:37.880 of my favorite records. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.160 Wow, can't you see why can't you see it come together? 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.720 We just came to the studio and the track was 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.600 playing and we were like, oh snap, and then Terry 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.280 Robinson Terry what was the group that Terry? 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:55.480 The Girls? 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:00.560 Terry Robinson's so incredible as far as songwriting, and she came. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.440 She was like, this is this is what it is? 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.200 Okay verse I like that verse. She liked that verse, 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.920 like that verse. We went recorded it and it was 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.320 what it was. It No, No, Big wasn't on it. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:14.280 He was a studio. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.960 He was in the studio and then he came in 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.000 and laid it down. It's crazy. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:19.160 Wow, that's crazy. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.400 Yeah. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.080 I was gonna ask when you said we got to 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.840 work on it, you can go back and make sure 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.360 that you guys are credited on the song now, even 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.400 though like it's been listed certain how that works. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.160 Because I think I think Pam was able to do 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.360 that with hypnotized So and. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.560 Then we get our sounded we get we get performance 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.360 royalties for it, like our Sound Exchange and. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:42.000 Stuff like that. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.160 And it has gotten updated. We had it updated on 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.040 the internet. So now if you look it up, it 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.280 does say feature in total. But it just didn't go 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.280 out like that. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.840 Yeah, crazy a lot. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:59.280 Of y'all, can't, you know. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.320 I just I just never like realized that it didn't 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:09.520 say featuring your voice is definitely y'all, know ya, everybody. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.640 Know the question did y'all enjoy the moment of the nineties, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.440 Because when I look at y'all, it's like y'all are 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.560 like mythical figures to me, right, Like you know what 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.800 I'm saying, because y'all defined not just the genre, but 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.640 like y'all would have soundtrackted our lives. Did y'all enjoy 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:24.360 the moment? 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:24.920 Yes? 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:36.520 Yeah, when they said was in the building road, it. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.080 Was when we were on a high. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.800 I mean, you couldn't ask for a better label, you know, 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.000 and a place to be, and especially like aspiring artists, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.960 when this is something that you dream of doing. To 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.520 land on Bad Boy and I do. We remember the 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.000 time clearly when bad Boy was everywhere. It was nothing 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.240 to just walk in the club or walk anywhere and 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:56.960 just get. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.680 That love, admiration and respect. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.280 Like it was whether they world wearing black leather, you know, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.520