1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone, 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: welcome back. My name is Matt and I'm Ben and 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I just got back from a vacation. Is that what 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: they call those things where you're gone for a week? 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: It was essentially yes, Oh man, it was crazy. It 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: was the best thing I've done in a long time, 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: besides the show, which you know is the best thing 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: I've got going for me. I don't know about you. 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got nothing going on, okay, zero except 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: for this. Yeah, well and my beautiful life. Yes that's 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: another thing. Sorry, ladies. Oh yeah, Diana is definitely the 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: business suit. Um yeah, what did you do on your vacation? 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: I was on a ship and it was incredible. It's 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the first time I've been in the water to the 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: point where I can see no land around me whatsoever, 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: on the top of a ship. It was incredible, open ocean. Huh. Yeah, 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: it gives you. It gave me lots of creative ideas 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: just about the earth in that old saying, as above 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: so below, that feeling that you get when you see 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: the horizon line, just water beneath you and just air 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: above you. Pretty awesome as above so below. It's funny 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: that you say that, because that's a little bit of cultish, 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's a little bit of cultish. And what 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: were we talking about this week? Some group of people 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: that are really well known. It was a political movement. 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: And I can't put my finger on it because when 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: you said some group of people that were really well known, 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: my first guest was kiss. They are some of the 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: most well known people in the world. That's true, that 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: is true. But these guys had some kind of symbol. Oh, yeah, 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: that's right. Nazis. Oh and magic, Oh, Nazis. That was 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: way off. Well. Both groups, in my defense, have a 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: love of uniforms. That's true. Sorry, no offense, kiss, a 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: little less face paint in the Nazis. Yeah, arguably that's right. 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Matt and I are here today as 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: always with our super producer Noel Brown. Uh. Today's question, 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Matt is, did the Nationalist Socialist Party or Nazis really 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: try to practice magic? Yes, they tried. They tried to 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: practice magic. They really did. They had a lot of 42 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: interest in the occult. Okay, all right, Uh well that's 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: our podcast, ladies, and right, and that's it. So I 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it to find us on Facebook. 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, we got more. Oh yeah, we've got We've 46 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: got a little more, right, I mean, because this is 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: something that's such a popular idea, right because we hear 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: about it all the time, and you know, we can 49 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: we can talk about some examples of that, but it's 50 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: important for us to remember that when we say the 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Nazis really did try to practice magic or have a 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: cult interest, we're talking about members of the Nazi Party, 53 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily everybody, not not boots on the ground guys, 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: perhaps a few of them, but we cannot make a 55 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: huge generalization like that. They're key members, yeah, yeah, who 56 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: are interested in the occult. Yeah, we can see this 57 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: the fascination in culture, like new culture about Nazis. If 58 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: you look at video games Wolfenstein series, they called Duty 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: series all the yeah, the zombies, Nazi zombies all over 60 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: the place. My buddy Charlie loves that. Um oh, even 61 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: movies you mentioned Dead Snow and Dead Snow. There's the 62 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: one about the Mars or something, iron Sky, Iron Sky 63 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: there they have a moon base. Uh yeah, and uh, 64 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: that's that's weird because in that idea, in that film, 65 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: it talks about another prevalent theory about Nazis, which is 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the discovery of some alternative form of energy, which you 67 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: and I have looked at a lot. We uh we 68 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: found that these are not they're not mutually exclusive. The 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: idea of the occult and magic and this form of 70 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: energy they seem to be connected. Yeah, and and that's 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: because of sorry man, that has to do with this 72 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: thing called the fuel or tool society or the real 73 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: society as well. Yeah, they were. This is this is 74 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: a weird thing that you and I discovered as well. 75 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Matt. When we do our show stuff, 76 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. There are certain groups 77 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: or individuals that will always have thousands of at times 78 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: contradictory theories surrounding them. You know, they're are international bankers, 79 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: and news flash, a few of those theories are distressingly, 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: indisturbingly true. Yes, there are groups that are amorphous and 81 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily a Certain people like the New World Order 82 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: or the even the Illuminati, which are a lot of 83 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: different people are associated with that term. And then you've 84 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: got groups like the Nazis, right, Yeah, the Nazis are 85 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: group that we continually returned to. We've done Nazis and UFOs. 86 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: We've looked at some questions about whether or not Hitler 87 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: actually died when he supposedly died, which is still an 88 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: interesting story, and that one's up in the air for 89 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: me still. Yeah, we're gonna have to look into that one, 90 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and then the rat lines and all this other stuff. 91 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: But one thing that we continually returned to, as we're saying, 92 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: it's the Nazis. And here's something interesting we found while 93 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: we were working on our series this week. Uh first 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: we had our classic video remixed by Matt, which is 95 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: did Nazis Practice Magic? And we talked about a lot 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: of this stuff, and we found out while we're doing 97 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: this that occult societies and secret societies were crazy common 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, the inter war period between 99 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: World War One world War two in Germany and the 100 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: the Rule or to Society, as we talked about, was 101 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: one of the big ones that started out as the 102 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: study group for Germanic antiquity, and this was an occult 103 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: society and it was also something called a Wokish group 104 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: and that's with a V but pronounced the German way, right, 105 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: And you might be asking yourself what is wish. It's 106 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: a movement in Germany that focused on folklore, and you 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: can think of it kind of as a way of 108 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: romanticizing and idealizing the this image of the German people 109 00:06:54,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: that they had, uh yeah, pristine image, almost an iconic 110 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: image of the people. Yeah, that's bucolic, right. And this 111 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: is an important thing because in the modern age, it's 112 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: easy for us to think that Adolph Hitler just decided 113 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: to have crazy racial beliefs or or crazy nationalist beliefs 114 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call them. However, the fact 115 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: of the matter is that these were fairly common in 116 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: not just Germany but in Europe for most of the time, 117 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: and some of those ideas, you know, have a resurgence 118 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: in Europe today. So this ethno nationalistic belief says that 119 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: there is an inherent quality in someone's lineage that determines 120 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: your behavioral status, or your personality or your abilities. So 121 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: in some ways this is similar to other belief systems 122 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: like those in East Asia. Here's looking at you, North Korea. 123 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Because I've read the Cleanest Race based on some I 124 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: I read way too much about North Korea, so there 125 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: is still the same this same belief in what would 126 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: ultimately be called ideas of racial purity. What Is the 127 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Cleanest Race is a book by a scholar on North 128 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Korea that describes the ultimate aim of propaganda, or the 129 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: narrative created by the North Korean government, which depicts the 130 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: people of North Korea as a pure, innocent, vulnerable people 131 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: who are the cleanest and the best people in out 132 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: of the world, out of the world, who are somehow 133 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: oppressed the outside world and must be protected from that world, 134 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: and that the narrative of that propaganda is surely changing. 135 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: This was a fairly recently written book, but it's surely 136 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: changed gene as more North Korean citizens gain access to 137 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: outside information crap. So so let's yes, that's awesome. I'm 138 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: really glad you told me that, because I would have 139 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: no idea, and I think our listeners would. Uh. I 140 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: think we all are happy that you told us what 141 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: that was. So anyway, back to the Toul Society or 142 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: the tool, I'm just gonna say foul because that's what 143 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: I've said. So apologies to anybody else listening that wants 144 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: to correct me. Originally it was a cover name for 145 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: an offshoot of a different secret society that I'm going 146 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: to paraphrase as the German Order of the Holy Grail, 147 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: and the Thule Society became official in nineteen eighteen, and 148 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: you had to sign a document swearing to uphold racial purity, 149 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: all right, So you had to be so Ariyan, so 150 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: so very Arian, so Arian, and continue to be Arian 151 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: throughout your days. No, Roma can't marry into anyone who 152 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: is I don't know what, who is from Mongolia or 153 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: God forbid, Jewish or anything like that. And again this 154 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: was this was a fairly common idea. It wasn't something 155 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: that sounded crazy to the average person in Germany at 156 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the time. The name Thul or too Lee, and I'll 157 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: say Thuel as well, comes from a mystical land called Ultima. 158 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: According to these Nazi mystics, this was the capital of 159 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: an ancient place called Hyperborea, which they believed lay somewhere 160 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: in the north between Greenland and Iceland. And this was 161 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the supposed true home of the original founders of civilization. Again, 162 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: according to this ideology, the Arians. And before we go 163 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: on that, I do want to take a moment to 164 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: thank a listener on YouTube who said that we we 165 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: were making some assumptions by starting out from a place 166 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: where he said the occult or the areas, and this 167 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: law civilization idea is not real. It is possible because 168 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, as you and I found out when we're 169 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: doing our episodes on lost cities, people just lose entire 170 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: cities and civilizations. It's possible. I guess we have to 171 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: keep an open mind about it. It's just improbable, that's all. Well, 172 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: we know, yeah, that's a good way to say. We 173 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: know that law civilizations have occurred, do occur, will occur. 174 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: We may very well be living in a future lost civilization, right, 175 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: But the question is is their version of a civilization 176 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: actual low civilization. So anyway, like you said, they identified 177 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things. They connected quite a few things, 178 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: and this Hyperborea that they believed in, this Ultima Thule, 179 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: ultimate tool a, this was maybe known by some other names. Yeah. There, 180 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: you can look to Atlantis as the same kind of place, 181 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: or even a possible synonym for how do you say Hyperborea? Yeah, 182 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Hyperborea and Lamria. Yeah, they're all kinds of names for 183 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: the same kind of mystical place. Of origin, and this 184 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: society pre dates what would later become known as the 185 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: Nazi Party. Uh, but they had members of the Nazi 186 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Party at their shin digs and Sware's right. Yeah, some 187 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: guests of the Tool Society included Nazi officials like Rudolf 188 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Hess you're looking at Dietrich air Heart, but interestingly enough, 189 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: not Adolf Hitler. Okay. It should also be known that 190 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: the Tools Society officially disbanded in nineteen twenty, at least 191 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: officially officially. Yeah. One fun fact, Ben, is that the 192 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: designer of the original swastika that the Nazis used wasn't 193 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: at a Tool member, and his name was Friedrich Krone. Okay, 194 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: So that's pretty interesting because we do we know that 195 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: the swastika dates back predates the founding of the Nazi Party. 196 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: And one interesting story that I read about why the 197 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: swastika was chosen is because in our video we talk 198 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: about how the Toule Society and and some of these 199 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: other groups were inspired by the guy who discovered Troy. 200 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: A German archaeologist to rediscovered Troy in eighteen seventy and 201 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: he allegedly found some swastikas there. It's a very old, 202 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: ancient symbol. And it's also you know, Native Americans have 203 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: used the swast to get India has used it their 204 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: people in into and not the whole country. But to 205 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: a big question with this organization, did they do actual 206 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: occult stuff? Yes? Again? Yes, Oh, okay, all right, there's 207 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: no sort of there there's again, We're done so all right. No. No, 208 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: they would at least get together to celebrate pagan holidays 209 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: like Solstice and so on. They'd also talk philosophies based 210 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: on astrology and interpretations of Freemasonry of all things. Okay, 211 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: all right, I see, and maybe we can do a 212 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: Freemasonry podcast one day. We've probably had some Freemasons listening in. 213 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: We need to get somebody in this room, sit in 214 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: this chair and actually talk to us. Maybe we can 215 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: garble their voice. I don't know who will. Yeah, let's 216 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: get a guest. Guys, let us know in our email 217 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: who we should have as a guest. Let us know 218 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Facebook. Here's the next thing. We're talking 219 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: about organizations in the Nazi Party or around that time 220 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: that participate in occult things. One of my favorite these 221 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,359 Speaker 1: organizations met what you mentioned earlier is the real Society 222 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: or should we say the alleged real society? So what's 223 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: that and why do we have to say the alleged 224 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: real society? We have to say alleged because no one 225 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: has officially proven that real society actually existed. There are 226 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: numerous reports by skeptics and believers alike that there was 227 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: some kind of secret society operating in Germany that sought 228 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: to discover some kind of energy that was not known 229 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: at the time, some new form of energy or rediscovered 230 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: form of it. Yes, exactly. And you can check out 231 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: our Nazi I think we haven't published on our new site. Yeah, 232 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: we do on the new YouTube. Check it out. It's 233 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: about Nazi UFOs and it's interesting. Yeah, and it's also 234 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: on our website stuff. Then what you know dot com 235 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: if you're if you're the kind of person who doesn't 236 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: want to be on YouTube since they made the g 237 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: plus move, you know, so we understand. Yeah, one Gmail 238 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: to rule them all and in the darkness behind them, right, Yeah, 239 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: And and all of this is based on a novel, 240 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: not all of it, but a lot of it is 241 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: based on this novel Real the Power of the Coming Race, 242 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: and that's the idea of that's why they think the 243 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: name of real society was Okay, it's It's a book 244 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: from eighteen seventy one. It was a novel by Edward 245 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: Butler Lytton or Litton, and it was originally printed as 246 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: The Coming Race, and many believed it's an account from 247 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: a superior subterranean master race Ben and the energy form 248 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: that they're talking about is in fact called real, at 249 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: least according to this novel. Now here's where I will 250 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: be a little bit skeptical. So Edward Bower Litton his 251 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: novel there is fiction. It's trans fiction. He said it 252 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: was fiction. He said it was fiction. I'm repeating that. Uh. 253 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: He also, and this is just a neat little historical 254 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: side note here, he also, I believe is the winner 255 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: for the worst opening sentence of a novel in English. 256 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't this novel. It's different and it's a it's 257 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: a weird description. We'll you'll have to check it out, 258 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: or maybe we can bring it to a link on 259 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: our website. But yes, so this name, according to the stories, 260 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: inspired this society. But at this point there's no solid 261 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: historical evidence for the existence of such a society, although 262 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: there is some pretty compelling stuff about Nazi experimentation of 263 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: other forms of energy. Right, I would just like to 264 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: say that to me, of real society, if it did exist, 265 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: would be kind of like a fandom community. Yeah, for 266 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: this novel. You know what, that's a really good point. 267 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: And how weird is that if that truly did inspire 268 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: some of these horrifying things and horrifying practices, it's pretty 269 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: messed up. That is strange. Fiction does have such a power, 270 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: does That's a really good point. Men, Sorry, I didn't 271 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: mean yeah, I'm sorry, I started zoning out. You guys. Sometimes, uh, 272 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: sometimes one of us will make a point that seems 273 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: phenomenally deep to the other person, and we'll just sort 274 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: of tune out and think about that one other thing. 275 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Ben really fast. There's another popular book called The Morning 276 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: of the Magicians, and this is the one that made 277 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: people think that the real society was real. Right, Yeah, 278 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: This is from nineteen sixty and it suggested that a 279 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: secret quote real society existed in pre Nazi Berlin. However, again, 280 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: there's no, absolutely no historical evidence that that society existed. 281 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: He see me getting excited across the table here, right, Yeah, 282 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: it's not just the coffee. I'm thrilled to mention one 283 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: of the biggest groups that does have historical evidence behind it, 284 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: and that is and an alb Yes, yes, it is 285 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: one of the most fun things to say. It is. 286 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: We have probably alienated some of our co workers because 287 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: Matt and I sit across from each other and there's 288 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: a wall that divides us. So we will will stand 289 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: up and talk over that wall or sometimes just say 290 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: things and not know if the other persons on headphones. 291 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: It's true, that's true. And when we this week, when 292 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: we've been hopping up and going, oh Ben, did just 293 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: see about and nab, everyone just gets a little uncomfortable, 294 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: including ourselves, right yeah, because we continue talking in the 295 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: in our horrible voices about that. But this is the 296 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: real Nazi Magic Department, and it all depends on a 297 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: guy that you probably remember from some of our earlier 298 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: works on this, a fellow named Heinrich Himmler. Yeah, he 299 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen hundred, on a fun year to 300 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: be born in He developed the s S. That's im. 301 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: He developed the S S and he oversaw a lot 302 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: of the work of the Annan Arab. He also built 303 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: extermination camps and he directed the course. Unfortunately, of the Holocaust. Right, 304 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: it's important, vital even for us to remember that despite 305 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: how some of this might sound to the very skeptical right, 306 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: to the people who think magic is silly or absurd, 307 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: that this was not just some silly, absurd man. He 308 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: was doing things that were on a large scale and horrific. 309 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: He was an an intensely serious dude that did some 310 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: horrible things. And he turned the SS into a racially 311 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: based secret society. And he even used pagan rituals with 312 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah, he sought to supplant Christianity as a 313 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: practice amongst s S officers, which we talked about a 314 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: little bit in one of our videos, by taking out 315 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: Christian holidays, you know, Easter, Christmas, all that stuff, which 316 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: is you know, I'm just gonna say it, which is 317 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: already based on pre existing pagan holidays. That's just true. 318 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: And uh, well he even replaced a lot of the 319 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: symbols using rooms in ancient rooms. Um, even Odin is 320 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: m Yeah, he wanted to get people back into worshiping Odin. 321 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's heavy. Yeah, And uh, this this all leads 322 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: to a very strange situation. Of course, if you're one 323 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: of the officers who has to do this and tell 324 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: your kids, Hey, guys, we're just doing Soulstice now. Yeah, 325 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: it's their kids, no Christmas for you. Yeah, it's a 326 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: It's very It must have been a very weird household 327 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: conversation for a lot of those people. So, Matt, why 328 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: and when did he found the n and AP? He 329 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: founded the NNP in nineteen thirty five, Why you asked, Oh, 330 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: why did he do that? He did it to discover 331 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: or really to create a new mythology, a new history 332 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: and a folklore of Germany. He he really wanted to 333 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: reflect the wolkesh attitudes of the nationalist society. I see 334 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: a politically correct version of history as they saw it. Yeah, 335 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: that was it would end up being horrifying. So uh, 336 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Annell comes from a pretty obscure German word. Um it 337 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: means something inherited from forefathers. And the official mission of 338 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: this of this big department is to unearth new evidence 339 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: of accomplishments and deeds of ancestors of the Germanic people 340 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: using here's the tricky part science, Yeah, exact scientific method. 341 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: So in reality, the nat was in the business of 342 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: myth making, at least that's what we've found. Its prominent 343 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: researchers devoted themselves to changing the truth, distorting the truth, 344 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: and putting out these carefully tailored pieces of evidence that 345 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: would support the ideas of mine fura of Adolf Hitler, 346 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: and he believed that only the Arians, this fictional Nordic 347 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: race of the tall, flaxen haired men and women blonde 348 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: uh from northern Europe, that they were possessed with the 349 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: genius required to create civilization. Only those people, and most 350 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: modern Germans, he claimed, were descended from these ancient Arians. 351 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Now this is interesting because you always here in the 352 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: United States, at least various members of Congress saying your 353 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: politicize in the issue or your polittified lamely astro, which 354 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: are the only two congressional voices I can do. Guess 355 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: who they are, let us know right and let us 356 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: know they're not in the same party. But the point 357 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: is that this is a very dangerous thing for science 358 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: in general when someone needs a politically expedient answer, because 359 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: it usually means something that supports their political aims. So 360 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: no one is really going update off Hitler and saying, well, 361 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: we think that civilization was probably not started by these 362 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: people that just decided was started by right, But they 363 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: can't do that and expect to keep their job at 364 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: the very least. And again, as we have said, it 365 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: is completely possible that entire civilizations have been lost to history. 366 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: We just don't have proof that the beliefs that these 367 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: people had were in any way true. So science had 368 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: failed forever too uncover proof of this master race starting 369 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: civilization in some Promethean way um and being simally responsible 370 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: for all human culture. So the idea was to Heinrich 371 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Himler that we can discover this stuff by I don't know, 372 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: creating it, guiding it, molding it a little bit. So 373 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: that's why they, uh, the n and AMP researched historical 374 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: archaeological evidence of this race that up to now did 375 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: not have much proof of its existence. Right and Himler 376 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: essentially created the most well funded I like, how you 377 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: put this most well funded folklore department in history billions. 378 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: You know, I love folklore, Matt, I love that stuff, 379 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: and folklore classes with some of my favorite classes in 380 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: in the history of my education. But folklore isn't you know, 381 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: it's not like engineering, it's a it's not a very 382 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: well moneyed pursuit. So this became a million deutsche mark 383 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: industry for the Germany at the time, And we have 384 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: some list of things that they research, just to give 385 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: you a just to give you a bit of a 386 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: sense of the depth and breadth of this. Yes, and 387 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: we're going to read these in English correct. Yeah. Yeah, 388 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tackle that German. I've already accidentally 389 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: been offensive enough. Well, let's just go down the list, then, 390 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: shall we. Sure, we've first got Indo Germanic Aryan language 391 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: and cultural studies, and then we also have Germanic cultural 392 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: studies and landscape science. We've got Indo Germanic faith history, 393 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Indogermanic historical jurisprudence. We've got Indo Germanic and German music, 394 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and then Germanic German folklore, ethnic research and folklore, folk tales, 395 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: fairy tales and myths and even runs, alphabets and symbols. 396 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: And that all goes under one branch of the in 397 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: an arab and that branch was social science. But there 398 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: was also the natural science branch. And here's where we 399 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: find hard evidence of Nazi occult practices. Yeah, this is 400 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: where you get into descriptive and applied natural history. Yeah, 401 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: and and listen, because these start out a little bit innocuous, 402 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: but you'll see what we're talking about soon. They also 403 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: did biology, entomology, astronomy, horse breeding, botany, plant genetics, spelology, 404 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: cave explorations, scientific history that's kind of vague. Here we go, 405 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: applied geology, geochronology, nuclear physics, folk medicine, osteology, survey of 406 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: the so called occult sciences. But yeah, and they had 407 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: so called in there to make it seem a little 408 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: bit more level headed than it was. But they really 409 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: did travel to Finland and meet people they thought were witches, 410 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: and they really did enlist psychic experiments. And the last 411 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: one that we we would be remiss if we didn't 412 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: mention was military scientific research. This became the Charnel House. 413 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: This is a household horrors, where they started collecting skeletons 414 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: of people they had killed doing barometric pressure tests. And 415 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: that was maybe one of the most frightening things is 416 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: that was one small part of this giant institution where 417 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, in in another part of Germany people are 418 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: researching horse breeding and man and it's gosh, this is 419 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: just something I wanted to bring up. We you mentioned 420 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: Indiana Jones in our flog and you know, indeed had 421 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: to deal with Nazis several times. Yeah, he kept running 422 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: into him. Well, it's interesting to note that these quote 423 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Nazi archaeologists end quote were the basis for the for 424 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: India running any of these people, because there really were 425 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: expeditions that the Nazis took to discover all kinds of antiquities, 426 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: um antiques and law civilizations. Oh and now we're into 427 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: our here's where it gets crazy mood, alright, because there's 428 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we actually don't know and 429 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: may never know about Zan and Ebb and about the 430 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: actions or findings of the Nazi archaeologists. We know that 431 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: they we we know that there were two and perhaps 432 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: contradictory kind of purposes. We know that one they were 433 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: building mythology or propaganda and they were aware of this 434 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: and they were doing it purposefully. And then we know, 435 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: on the other hand, they really did believe in some 436 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: of these things, that really did believe there was a 437 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: holy grail, they could find a spear of destiny, stuff 438 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: like that. And if that's true, then we have to 439 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: ask ourselves, did they find anything? Then how would we know? Right? 440 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: And then we go into other stuff like do we 441 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: know what actual magic the Nazis practice, because a lot 442 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: of times you do that kind of stuff in a 443 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: dark hole somewhere with torches and nobody can see you, 444 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: and you don't really write down notes. Yeah, a cult 445 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: means hidden. And then there's the idea of the black sun. 446 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: What is the relationship between this stuff, the science is magic, 447 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: this symbolism. What about the reports that some concentration camp 448 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: survivors had of being forced to work underground your V 449 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: two rocket assemblies? You know? What about the reports of 450 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: the guys and operations Epsilon where they were recorded for 451 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: a while at the farmhouse. Yeah, in that farmhouse, and 452 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: they talked about some stuff which makes us wonder is 453 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: was it just like a handy code? A lot of 454 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: One of my favorite quotes from that, and I'm not 455 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna have the exact quote, but when one of the 456 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: guys remarked, do you think they have microphones in here? 457 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: You know they're listening to us, And the other guy said, well, no, 458 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: they don't. They don't know all the Stazi techniques to 459 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: come on as Americans. And there for now, we're going 460 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: to have to cut it short. There's a lot of 461 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: stuff we didn't get to. But the rest maybe a 462 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: story for another day. Please check out our stuff about 463 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Nazi magic if you haven't yet, and let us know 464 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: what else we should look at. Again. There's a great 465 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: book on this, a very controversial book called The Brotherhood 466 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: of the Bell, which goes into some of the ideas 467 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: about real and there really is a flooded underground or 468 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: a flooded mine, right, Matt, that no one's had access 469 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: to for a while, and no one knows what's in there. 470 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: So this does end on a little bit of a mystery. 471 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: And that's the best part about all of this. It's 472 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: a mystery, but it's food. It's so much food for thought, 473 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: and that's why I love these topics. And I don't know, 474 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: every once in a while we get comments on our 475 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: YouTube page, hey where are you covering Nazis? Uh? The 476 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Nazis come on and again, like we said at the top, 477 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: they're covered a lot in this subject area. But the 478 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: that fascination with the unknown is always going to be 479 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: with this group. And I think that's why we're gonna 480 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: go back and we're this is not the end for 481 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Nazis for us Ben in about a year, I'm sure 482 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: we'll be back in Nazi territory. One other thing, just 483 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: because we're talking about magic, I want to mention, and 484 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't usually plug other podcasts, but and I know 485 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: everybody knows about the WTF pod, but Mark Marrin had 486 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: the amazing Jonathan on his show. Do you remember the 487 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: amazing Jonathan from TV? Uh? Fairly famous magician back in 488 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: the little nineties eight late eighties nineties. I remember watching 489 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: on TV a lot. Anyway, it's a fascinating interview that's 490 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: super heavy and I would not expect it. I didn't 491 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: expect it. Anyway. You should check that out. Yes, And 492 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: while you're checking stuff out on the internet, we want 493 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: you guys to know you are welcome, but not obligated 494 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: to nominator vote for us on the Streamy Awards. We 495 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: would really appreciate it. We are free show. Our sponsor, 496 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Illumination Global Unlimited, gives us a pretty free raim with 497 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: this stuff, and we hope that we're covering things that 498 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: you would like to hear. Speaking of that real quick 499 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: before we get out, because the crew of tech stuff 500 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: is gonna kill us too much over our time. Um 501 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: My thought maybe we could just read some tweets. All right, yeah, alright, 502 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: I would like to thank Freaky Fire. By the way, 503 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: at Freaky Fire, our friend Heather for we're nominating us. 504 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. I just saw that. Uh. Heather 505 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: just said, just nominated some faiths for the streamy's named 506 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: us along with Forward Thinking brain Stuff and then mom 507 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: Stuff podcast. That's Sminty Stuff. Mom never told you. So 508 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: we're grateful. We really appreciate that. And uh, let's see 509 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: another one. Joel wrote to us and said, what do 510 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: you guys think is up with the hell mouth hole 511 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: in Yamal, Siberia? Y a m a l um. We're 512 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: digging into this, but we wanted to let you guys 513 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: know too, so you don't have to wait for us 514 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: to tell you. We want to hear more about what 515 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: you think. Is that the old giant hole or the 516 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: new sinkhole slash whatever hole that just appeared in Siberia. 517 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: I think it's the one that just appeared. Uh. And 518 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: then we had somebody say that we should sell T shirts. 519 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Rachel said, you guys should sell T shirts with Here's 520 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy on them. So we retweeted and 521 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: asked if people would and we had some people say, uh, yeah, 522 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: take a try it out, We'll buy one. And then 523 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: we had uh, we had Victor say that we should 524 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: talk more about sleeper agents. What do you think about that? 525 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: Most definitely, um. And then we've got something that we'll 526 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: go ahead and retweet right now, which is um. Our friend, 527 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: uh Bart and I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly, 528 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: said they were found ten thousand year old rock paintings 529 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: depicting Aliens and UFOs found in Chittascara, India, and that's 530 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: reported by the Times of India. So we're gonna to 531 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: go ahead and retweet that right now. And let's see. 532 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I think that's enough now because we ended with a retweet, 533 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: right Uh, So we're gonna get out of here. I 534 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: think in our some of our next episodes we'll probably 535 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: do some listener mail. What do you think, man? Oh? 536 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: Most definitely it's time again. 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