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Speaker 2: Welcome back George nor with you, RJ. Spina with us.
Speaker 2: A true leader and metaphysical teacher, he has healed himself
Speaker 2: of permanent chest down paralysis, severe chronic illness, life threatening
Speaker 2: conditions through his own authentic transcendence. His teachings, wisdom, guidance,
Speaker 2: and revolutionary self healing and self realization techniques have already
Speaker 2: completely changed and saved the lives of many across this planet.
Speaker 2: He has dedicated his life to the freeing and healing
Speaker 2: of humanity on all levels. Currently living in San Diego,
Speaker 2: has recently started his not for profit human advancement through
Speaker 2: higher consciousness. His latest book is called Access super Consciousness. RJ.
Speaker 2: Spina Back on Coast to Coast.
Speaker 1: R J.
Speaker 2: How have you been.
Speaker 3: I've been very well, George. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: having me back. It's my pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2: And thank you for what you do. It is truly remarkable.
Speaker 3: Oh, I most appreciate that. It's my love, it's my passion,
Speaker 3: and it's an honor to serve.
Speaker 2: Is this healing that you did? This life threatening conditions?
Speaker 2: What happened to you well.
Speaker 3: I had developed severe sepsis. I was told that I
Speaker 3: had forty eight hours to live. I was even instructed
Speaker 3: to if I didn't have a will to start writing
Speaker 3: it out through this. Yeah, I became paralyzed. It crushed
Speaker 3: my spine. The infection was actually on my spine itself,
Speaker 3: and it crushed my spine, and from a chest down
Speaker 3: I became a quote unquote permanently paralyzed. And I was
Speaker 3: also diagnosed with a host of illnesses that you can't
Speaker 3: get better from. But I knew better.
Speaker 2: Prior to what you began to do to heal yourself.
Speaker 2: Did you have any experience.
Speaker 3: Well in terms of healing. I used to say as
Speaker 3: a kid, George, as weird as it sounds, I used
Speaker 3: to say that if I ever get I'll just heal myself,
Speaker 3: which is a pretty strange thing to say. But I
Speaker 3: knew that. I knew I didn't have the specifics. The
Speaker 3: specifics came online when they were required when I was
Speaker 3: in that life and depth situation. But I always knew
Speaker 3: that I could heal myself. And it's almost like I
Speaker 3: was remembering what was believe or not what was going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 2: Did you have health from anybody or your self.
Speaker 3: Taught now self taught. It's as strange as it sounds.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been doing metaphysical work and exploring my
Speaker 3: consciousness and leaving my body since I was a kid.
Speaker 3: But when I woke up from the emergency surgery, I
Speaker 3: literally woke up into a completely difference. It's what we
Speaker 3: call cosmic consciousness or christ consciousness. I literally remembered the
Speaker 3: entire process of self healing, the metaphysics behind self healing
Speaker 3: and self realization, and I just started explaining it in
Speaker 3: detail to the ICU nurse and those teachings that I
Speaker 3: was explaining to her, I was wound one of being.
Speaker 3: What I did with myself, it's unparalyzed myself, and they
Speaker 3: became the underpinnings of the first book, Supercharge Self Healing.
Speaker 2: How quickly did you turn yourself around physically?
Speaker 3: I announced, even though the doctors were telling me it's impossible.
Speaker 3: I announced that I would heal myself completely, be unparalyzed,
Speaker 3: and beyond any of these sicknesses within one hundred days.
Speaker 3: In exactly one hundred days, I walked on a system.
Speaker 2: Good for you, doctors in.
Speaker 3: Shock, to say the least, Yeah, jaws open. In fact,
Speaker 3: the neurosurgeon, a brilliant man and very talented, was reduced
Speaker 3: to saying the word ginormous over and over again because
Speaker 3: he just couldn't believe what he was seeing.
Speaker 2: Parjie, What does consciousness mean to you?
Speaker 3: Consciousness means a level of awareness. But there's various levels
Speaker 3: of consciousness, George, because there's sentient self awareness, there's self aware,
Speaker 3: there's consciousness, there's energy. So there's all these various levels.
Speaker 3: Like if we just just as a quick example, a
Speaker 3: rock or a mineral has a very basic level of
Speaker 3: awareness as opposed to say you or me, and we're
Speaker 3: able to learn through our own creativity, and that's what
Speaker 3: makes something sentient, which is beyond consciousness itself. So there's
Speaker 3: levels of consciousness, but it has to do with awareness,
Speaker 3: the level of awareness and the ability to evolve itself
Speaker 3: through its own creativity.
Speaker 2: Did you learn by trial and error?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the healing itself. There was not much going on, George,
Speaker 3: the first seventeen days or so, so, but I made
Speaker 3: an adjustment the night of the sixteenth and that day seventeen,
Speaker 3: and there's a video of this. I started kicking my
Speaker 3: leg and moving my foot and that's when the healing
Speaker 3: was not linear. At that point, it was what we
Speaker 3: could call quantum. I was jumping in terms of being
Speaker 3: able to do things. The day before I showed no
Speaker 3: indication I was able to do it, and the next
Speaker 3: day it's as if that ability never left me.
Speaker 2: Did you start doing it the correct way seventeen days
Speaker 2: later or were you always doing it right? It just
Speaker 2: didn't kick in.
Speaker 3: I think there was an element, and there's a couple
Speaker 3: of steps within the ascend the frequency healing technique that's
Speaker 3: in the book. I started to emphasize certain things within
Speaker 3: the healing technique, and that seemed to jump the healing.
Speaker 3: It's almost like I got charged through the way that
Speaker 3: I was doing it by incorporating a multitude of those steps.
Speaker 3: Instead of doing one at a time, I started incorporating
Speaker 3: many of them, and that seemed to make the.
Speaker 2: Difference, big difference. Indeed, how important are jay is positive
Speaker 2: thinking when you come to.
Speaker 3: This, well, George, The interesting thing is is that it's
Speaker 3: not thinking, and I know that sounds odd. Our power,
Speaker 3: the parasympathetic state, which is the state that we want
Speaker 3: to put ourselves in in terms of healing, is actually
Speaker 3: occurring when the mind is still, or when the mind
Speaker 3: is not active, and the body follows the mind. So
Speaker 3: when the mind is still, and we can think of
Speaker 3: this as meditation. When the mind is still, the body
Speaker 3: automatically self repairs and self heals. It's designed to do that.
Speaker 3: And it's really thinking that takes us out of alignment.
Speaker 3: And I've found it impossible for people to just focus
Speaker 3: on positive thinking because that mind that does thinking is
Speaker 3: a fragmented, compartmentalized, conditioned mind. It's our brainwashed mind, and
Speaker 3: there's really no way to just continuously think positive. What
Speaker 3: we can do, though, is we can actually learn to
Speaker 3: be in a clear state or a meditative state. And
Speaker 3: even as you and I are talking, I'm in a
Speaker 3: meditative state. My mind is not active. I'm very clear.
Speaker 3: So we can operate that way, and the body is
Speaker 3: automatically self repairing and self healing, and it has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with positive thinking.
Speaker 2: You've come up with a number of meditations that you
Speaker 2: put in the book. How did you come up with them?
Speaker 3: Well, the new book Access for Consciousness. Yet, so I
Speaker 3: wrote this book, George, believe it or not, I know
Speaker 3: it's the fourth book. Excuse me. The third book that's
Speaker 3: come out. It's my fourth time on your show. It's
Speaker 3: the third book that's come out. But I wrote this
Speaker 3: book right after I wrote Supercharged, and I was writing it,
Speaker 3: I was on a believe it or not, I was
Speaker 3: on a mountain in Kawai, and I was in a
Speaker 3: certain state of consciousness and all these deep, deep, profound
Speaker 3: understandings were coming to me, and I decided I needed
Speaker 3: to capture these things, and then I developed meditations so
Speaker 3: that everyone could actually experience these exalted states of consciousness
Speaker 3: through these twenty four different meditations, and they're completely and
Speaker 3: utterly life altering. But they just just like the self
Speaker 3: healing and the self realization, George, it just started coming
Speaker 3: to me. It's like it's a deep, deep remembrance. And
Speaker 3: because my mind was clear, that that inner knowing was
Speaker 3: allowed to flower and just come to my mind and
Speaker 3: it all came back to me.
Speaker 2: R Jr. The twenty four meditations all necessary or could
Speaker 2: you do ten of them or five of them? And
Speaker 2: everything still.
Speaker 3: Works well when we say necessary. I'll give you an example, George.
Speaker 3: So some of the transitions are from how to go
Speaker 3: from disorder to order, from violence to kindness, from greed
Speaker 3: to generosity. Now, this really lays out the issue of
Speaker 3: duality that humanity struggles with, which is why we have
Speaker 3: so much division within ourselves and then within each other,
Speaker 3: because we get caught in this dualistic nature somewhere in
Speaker 3: between these two things. And so these meditations lay out
Speaker 3: how to move from one end to the spectrum to
Speaker 3: the other and then right through, if that makes sense,
Speaker 3: And so we can operate in a way you could
Speaker 3: just think of as an analogy, you could think of surfing.
Speaker 3: So instead of getting caught in the current, the riptide
Speaker 3: pulling you back and forth, or trying to swim, swim
Speaker 3: against it or swim through it, you can kind of
Speaker 3: just ride over the whole thing. And these meditations allow
Speaker 3: you to move through the dualistic nature of our experience
Speaker 3: here in a in an almost effortless and exquisite way.
Speaker 3: And when we when we do this, every facet of
Speaker 3: our life, George is increased. There's more joy, there's more peace,
Speaker 3: there's there's deeper understanding, and there's and there's more compassion
Speaker 3: for ourselves and for.
Speaker 2: Each other generally, how long does each meditation last?
Speaker 3: I mean, the I have the instantaneous meditations, which take
Speaker 3: a one second. But these deeper meditations that I put
Speaker 3: together for this book, I mean they start to they
Speaker 3: start to flower within thirty seconds to a minute.
Speaker 2: Really, that's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all it takes because we're it's direct access.
Speaker 3: So instead of taking this like long circuitous route, which
Speaker 3: is basically how meditation has been taught, it's it's still
Speaker 3: to give something for the mind to focus on. This
Speaker 3: is the opposite. So we're going to the true self,
Speaker 3: which exists before that fine, that mind that's trying to
Speaker 3: balance itself. So when you access it directly, thirty seconds
Speaker 3: to a minute and you're in a profoundly different state
Speaker 3: of being unconsciousness.
Speaker 2: Rjie, what does meditation mean to you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get asked this to it. So from me,
Speaker 3: the self with the capital ascid. But people think of
Speaker 3: the word soul, but we have a much more definite definition,
Speaker 3: much more specific definition of that that we've discovered through
Speaker 3: these works. But the self is meditation. So what that
Speaker 3: means is we exist prior to thinking, We exist prior
Speaker 3: to emoting, we exist prior to bodily sensation. So we
Speaker 3: really already are meditation. And so by quieting the mind
Speaker 3: and allowing the emotions to just stabilize. We immediately experience
Speaker 3: meditation and we are meditation. And it's a big paradigm shift.
Speaker 3: Instead of trying to meditate or becoming a meditator, we
Speaker 3: realize the truth that we already are meditation.
Speaker 2: By doing these meditations. What's the end.
Speaker 3: Product a greater sense of self, a more peaceful, complete,
Speaker 3: whole state of being. And like I said, that completeness,
Speaker 3: that wholeness, because what we are, that fractal of God
Speaker 3: is whole and complete. You can think of like a
Speaker 3: glass of water. If you take one drop out of
Speaker 3: the water, that's still h two oh, it's just like
Speaker 3: that big glass of water. It's exactly the same. And
Speaker 3: that's the same with us and God. We are God,
Speaker 3: just a tiny fractal of it. And so we get
Speaker 3: to experience our own fullness, our own completeness, and our
Speaker 3: own limitless nature. And then we can actually create a
Speaker 3: life and lead a life that's reflective of that completeness
Speaker 3: and that limitless nature.
Speaker 2: Is there a meditation RJA that you must have that
Speaker 2: you just can't do without?
Speaker 3: I mean, personally or humanity in general in general. I
Speaker 3: think the ability to just be present and we have
Speaker 3: all those meditation magic tricks that we can do in
Speaker 3: one second, and one of them is pretend that you
Speaker 3: just arrived here, no past, no future. Explain that, yeah,
Speaker 3: when you do that. So meditation is the space between
Speaker 3: thoughts and thinking is always a rumination or a projection,
Speaker 3: or in other words, a past or future. So if
Speaker 3: we just pretend that we just arrived, you're almost like
Speaker 3: we're from as an analogy, we just landed here from
Speaker 3: outer space. We just arrived and we have no past
Speaker 3: and no future. Just got here. Now there's no way
Speaker 3: for that finite conditioned mind to start to summon the
Speaker 3: past or future, which is really how we conjure up
Speaker 3: our own suffering. So by imagining that we just arrived here,
Speaker 3: no past, no future, that mind shuts down that thinking
Speaker 3: conditioned mind of past future. And that's meditation, and it's
Speaker 3: our ability to be present, or what we can call meditation,
Speaker 3: is what lends itself to a higher quality of life.
Speaker 3: And we're not used to operating this way. We're used
Speaker 3: to just constantly thinking. But when we actually start to
Speaker 3: experience our own inner peace and serenity and then realize
Speaker 3: that that doesn't mean that we just sit in our house,
Speaker 3: sit in our couch and sing Kumbaya and don't do anything.
Speaker 3: Meditation is the flow state. It's actually when we're operating
Speaker 3: at our highest level, and so that the ability to
Speaker 3: be present by just using an instantaneous meditation magic trick
Speaker 3: will unlock all of our hidden talents and abilities, all
Speaker 3: our love, all our compassion, and all our power as well.
Speaker 2: Did you meditate to help cure yourself?
Speaker 3: I was in a you could say I was in
Speaker 3: a perpetual state of meditation, and I would even go
Speaker 3: to much much higher states of consciousness. You can think
Speaker 3: of taking an elevator if you like, going up floors,
Speaker 3: and I would just continuously go up frequencies and even
Speaker 3: into higher dimensions into where form and function is actually
Speaker 3: put together for the human vehicle. And when you go
Speaker 3: to that state, you can literally put yourself back together
Speaker 3: at that form and function level. And then that tweak
Speaker 3: of putting myself back it then gets translated as we
Speaker 3: come back down the floor, so to speak, and the
Speaker 3: body literally has put itself back together properly because you
Speaker 3: were addressing it at the form and function level. R.
Speaker 2: Jay explain what self mastery is.
Speaker 3: Self mastery is having dominion are as close to complete
Speaker 3: dominion over the body mind complex and our body of energy.
Speaker 3: So when I say bodymind complex is rather obviously the
Speaker 3: suit that we're wearing, when I also mean our body
Speaker 3: of energy, that's the energy that we use to think,
Speaker 3: to think, to emote, and to animate our body. So
Speaker 3: self mastery gives us complete control over that energy and
Speaker 3: our body mind complex. And since we use our bodymind
Speaker 3: complet plex and our body of energy for literally everything,
Speaker 3: it only stands to reason that having complete control or
Speaker 3: dominion over that is what self mastery actually is.
Speaker 2: Do Buddhists practice this a lot?
Speaker 3: I think they do, George, I think we've I think,
Speaker 3: you know, dare I say, I think we've taken it
Speaker 3: a few a few levels past what's typically practiced. But
Speaker 3: there's a lot of similarity between Buddhism and Hinduism and
Speaker 3: these deep, deep metaphysics that I've that I've tapped into,
Speaker 3: there's a real common thread, and I think, at some point,
Speaker 3: before I leave my body, I'm going to write a
Speaker 3: book that ties the thread between even the Abrahamic religions
Speaker 3: as well as Buddhism and Hinduism and show that the
Speaker 3: common thread is actually metaphysics, which is actually a higher
Speaker 3: level of science, and we're going to start to understand
Speaker 3: that we're all talking about the same thing. If we
Speaker 3: take away the window dressing of all the stuff about
Speaker 3: religion and we when we go through the core, we're
Speaker 3: going to start to realize there is a unifying factor
Speaker 3: and it's metaphysics.
Speaker 2: Well, with our Jay Spina, the name of his book
Speaker 2: is Access super Consciousness. It's almost shemantic, isn't.
Speaker 3: It It is? It absolutely is. And a lot of
Speaker 3: these great we'll call them religious figures, but a lot
Speaker 3: of these great religious figures we're practicing forms of shamanism
Speaker 3: from the very beginning. And a lot of this, a
Speaker 3: lot of this is rooted in that absolutely.
Speaker 2: By doing these techniques and let's say you're relatively healthy,
Speaker 2: what does that do for you?
Speaker 3: It increases your quality of life, George, That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's not so much well I have a back issue,
Speaker 3: or I have a kidney issue, or this or that.
Speaker 3: There's the real issue is in the astral, mental, and
Speaker 3: emotional body and eventually shows up within the physical. So
Speaker 3: when we learn to do these techniques and these meditations,
Speaker 3: what we're doing is we're harmonizing the astral, the mental,
Speaker 3: and the emotional. And when those aspects of ourselves are
Speaker 3: in alignment, the body also has to be in alignment
Speaker 3: because the body takes its cue from the mind and
Speaker 3: the deep beliefs that the mind holds. So even if
Speaker 3: we don't have physical distress or physical disharmony, the quality
Speaker 3: of life increases by an order of magnitude by addressing
Speaker 3: the astral, dementtal and the emotional body.
Speaker 2: A j Who are the ascended masters?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so the ascended masters. Now, now we're getting deep, George.
Speaker 3: So I'll preface it by saying this, and this could
Speaker 3: open up a whole other conversation. So the Hindu masters
Speaker 3: spoke a long time ago about something called the absolute
Speaker 3: or the all there is. And the absolute or the
Speaker 3: all there is just think of all of existence all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, just waking up and realizing that it's everything.
Speaker 3: But in that moment of just just like when we
Speaker 3: wake up in the morning, we just become conscious, so
Speaker 3: to speak, even though we were conscious of the ahole time.
Speaker 3: But the absolute or the all there is is everything,
Speaker 3: and at one moment it literally just became aware of itself.
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