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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is lately, but my feeds

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Speaker 2: are really popping with all things Egypt and all things Antarctica,

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Speaker 2: and particularly what might behind the ice wall, which I

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Speaker 2: think you've you've seen the ice wall? What is behind

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Speaker 2: the ice wall?

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's kind of the flatter theory model for the

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Speaker 3: edge of the Earth. And there is no wall for sae.

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Speaker 3: A wall says the ice would go down into the

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Speaker 3: ground and be secured. What's being confused is the ice shelf.

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Speaker 3: And there are many ice shelves, and we took our

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Speaker 3: sailboat right up to some of them. In fact, we

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Speaker 3: went in our dinghy to chip off some of the

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Speaker 3: blue ice for our cocktails.

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Speaker 2: But is it fresh down there?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it drinkable ice down there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It is, and it pops like popcorn when you mix

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Speaker 3: it with some mixers and the alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, that seems like a whole that seems like a

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Speaker 2: whole bar plan for vegas, like actual Antarctica ice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when it's real old, it gets blue and it

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Speaker 3: has little air bubbles in it, and that's what pops

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Speaker 3: when it melts.

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Speaker 2: How old is that ice?

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Speaker 3: Well, it'd be thousands, perhaps many thousands of years old.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a way to track I know we

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Speaker 2: can do with carbon dating, you know, things like organic materials.

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Speaker 2: But how do you how do we have a way

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Speaker 3: Well, sure they do ice core samples. There will They'll

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Speaker 3: drill down and pull out the ice core and you're

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Speaker 3: able to actually tell the dating of when a volcano

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Speaker 3: went off, for example, because it would throw soot over

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Speaker 3: of it. So you can actually use those ice cores

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's fascinating. Well, let me go back a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Let me go back to the beginning of

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Speaker 2: you and your travels, because I mean, the world knows

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Speaker 2: you as an adventurer. You've been doing this for about

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Speaker 2: thirty years now, and I imagine without like a sponsor

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Speaker 2: or something like that, traveling all around the world on

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Speaker 2: your own before YouTube and the Internet and all that

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Speaker 2: stuff exploded, was probably very expensive for you. But what

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Speaker 2: got you interested in? Kind of before we get to

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Speaker 2: you getting in a sailboat to Antarctica? What got you

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I guess it was just growing up in the

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Speaker 3: always yearning for the great world out there. And so

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Speaker 3: when I finished college in Illinois in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go to Europe. I wanted to see

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Speaker 3: all these places I had studied in history and art,

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Speaker 3: and that just kind of got my toes wet. And

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Speaker 3: I kept on traveling throughout my twenties and went to

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Speaker 3: Japan to teach English, and from there saved up and

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Speaker 3: all my trips are self financed. I did a three

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Speaker 2: Which place of all the seven continents do you most

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Speaker 2: like to go back to?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Boy, well, there's so many places I still haven't gone.

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Speaker 3: In Africa. I've only been to Egypt in Africa, so

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Speaker 3: that's a whole tableau ready to paint. And I prefer

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Speaker 3: to go to new places rather than retrace my steps.

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Speaker 3: But I do find myself going back to Southeast Asia

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Speaker 3: quite a bit. I really like it there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let me say, let me ask it a

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Speaker 2: different way. What place should everybody go see if they

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Speaker 2: can only go one? You know, one or two advanced

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Speaker 3: Well, I did a whole series of books on sacred

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Speaker 3: for me, I'm utterly fascinated with the megalithics, and my

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Speaker 3: favorite are by far the Great Pyramids. There's nothing like

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Speaker 3: and just makes that story all the more fascinating. But

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Speaker 2: I'd just talked to somebody that moved from Peru and

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Speaker 2: the Pyramids, and I imagine that that has to light

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Speaker 2: up your DNA in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really does, especially when you have such mysteries

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Speaker 3: as to how they were built. All those megalists were

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Speaker 3: and their stones just crumble during these big earthquakes. Yet

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Speaker 3: these megalists, which I would propose our pre inc in design,

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Now, one of the things that you have,

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Speaker 2: you have three books on on esoteric thinking, and I

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Speaker 2: need you to explain to me what that is a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I have read a little bit of your books.

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Speaker 2: I've dug into a couple of those. I've spent a

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Speaker 2: long time kind of researching you a little bit. But

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Speaker 2: can you explain to me what esoteric thinking is?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Well, the word esoteric means subject matter that's known

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Speaker 3: to only a select view. So the rest of us,

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Speaker 3: the Plebeians, the general masses wouldn't know esoteric subjects. It's

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Speaker 3: information that's usually hoarded by the money to leade in

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Speaker 2: It's a that's a word. I love that, so I

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Speaker 2: want to get into that too. It seems like what

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Speaker 2: you discover is information that people are keeping to themselves

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Speaker 3: It is a power thing, and that that's where writing

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Speaker 3: about them takes away the power, or at least gives

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Speaker 3: it back to the reader to say that, hey, there

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Speaker 3: really shouldn't be any secrets. Because I really believe we're

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Speaker 3: it's just a great time to be a researcher and

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Speaker 2: What kind of things when you when you travel, do

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Speaker 2: you get new nuggets or nuggets of information you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's something else they kept too. Does it does the

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I love to learn, and I'm always trying

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Speaker 3: and also just taking time at some of these locations,

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Speaker 2: The stuff that we hear about you've gotten to see

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Speaker 2: they're not human, right, They've got to be something else.

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Speaker 3: With the bebes in the cranial and determine the cranial

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Speaker 3: So bigger head, bigger body. Here we might have evidence

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Speaker 2: What do you say to people or doctors or researchers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or deformation, and yes, yeah, thing is cranial deformation.

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Speaker 2: I want to before I forget, because I'm going to

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Speaker 2: make sure everybody knows that you have a lot of

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Speaker 2: you about that book too, the prison Planet series, or

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Speaker 2: there's a couple of them for prison Planet, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the subtitle to beyond Esoteric prison Planet.

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Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that for a second.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a presumption that we are in the prison

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Speaker 3: us by other entities. This is where the word esoteric

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Speaker 3: this system that we have been entrained into, little knowing

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Speaker 3: that we actually have great power of our mind, of

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Speaker 3: know you have these abilities, you can escape the prison planet.

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Speaker 3: It's not to say that Earth is this lockdown, awful place. No,

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Speaker 3: it's a beautiful gem of a planet. It's the constructs

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Speaker 3: planets that we all, i think even subconsciously seek to

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Speaker 2: Is this kind of what you talk about when you

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Speaker 2: talk about the new fascism.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's correct and the New Fascism section In Beyond Us,

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Speaker 3: Terek gets into the money masters and basically the controllers

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Speaker 3: of the financial system, as well as how they've infiltrated

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Speaker 3: enforcement arm for basically the globalists is the CIA and

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Speaker 3: other alphabet agencies. And we're starting to see how deep

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Speaker 3: files being released, these JFK files being really is really

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Speaker 3: telling that they've been up to a lot of nefarious

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Speaker 2: It seems like whatever we do on the show, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter where I go, somebody's got to take into

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Speaker 2: thinking when you were talking about the prison plant a second,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he watches the news differently and can

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Speaker 2: see the control trying to be laid down on people.

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Speaker 2: Are the message of like, here's what we want you

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Speaker 2: to know, and can you see through that? A lot

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Speaker 2: of times ago, here's what they're setting up for.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you should bring that up because I really

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Speaker 3: don't watch TV, and I really don't watch much media

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Speaker 3: a consumer of content. But every time I do rich

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Speaker 3: it's just excruciatingly painful to try to sit through a

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Speaker 3: news broadcast, kind of like that meme of Leam Hotter

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Speaker 3: to the TV's like, well, right there, there's mine control.

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Speaker 3: Right there. They're faking it.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, wondered every time you've got to be triggered

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Speaker 2: being like, oh here we go, here it is one

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Speaker 2: more time. I wonder if we're waking up to that.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like we are? Do you feel like

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Speaker 2: the Internet has opened that up a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Definitely. The Internet is a complete game changer. This is

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Speaker 3: the new Gutenberg Press, this is the new Library of Alexandria,

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Speaker 3: where we have so much information and no wonder that

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Speaker 3: there has been so much attempt to center it. Even

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Speaker 3: the Internet to open up to the people. It's just

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Speaker 3: giving them way too much access to this kind of information,

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Speaker 3: this esoteric information. And now the cats out of the bag,

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Speaker 3: you can't put it back in, and we are living

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Speaker 3: It's the old saying is we're drowning in information, but

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Speaker 3: rut is to find that knowledge in all this information, and.

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Speaker 2: How do you delineate what is uh, you know, conspiracy

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of truth to it as we go

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now with AI coming online with with these images,

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Speaker 3: what they just found an antarctica and they still have

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Speaker 3: that element that a little cartoony, so you can still tell.

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Speaker 3: But that's going to change pretty soon. So it's making

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Speaker 3: it harder as a researcher to discern what is real

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Speaker 3: and what is just AI generated And uh, it's it's

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Speaker 3: kind of easy to fall for some of these because

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Speaker 3: it's things that we all sense is happening down there.

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Speaker 3: So for example, videos of people photographers and uh wearing

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Speaker 3: their antarctica suits finding some kind of ancient civilization under

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Speaker 3: the ice, and it's just kind of still a little

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Speaker 3: cartooning my whole thing is. If it hasn't been recorded prior,

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