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I think the first thing I 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.920 wanted to talk about is not the Cowboys, but another 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.240 player on another team who has been the team has 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.119 said they are going to let him and they will 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.959 be looking for a deal to possibly trade him. One 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.039 Jalen rams cornerback of the Miami Dolphins. My question for 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.280 you guys is, and I'll read first Chris Cryer, who 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.120 is the GM of the Miami Dolphins. This was this 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.960 quote in a press conference. At the end of the day, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.200 Jalen did not ask for a trade. We went through 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.600 the process and I just felt after numerous conversations and 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.920 talking last week to week with Jalen and his agent, 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.640 that it was best to move forward. It was in 0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:00.120 the best interest to Miami Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey. It 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.880 is clear that they are looking to trade him. What 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.000 I've read according to one Mo Moten on bleacher Report, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.280 he said it could cost the team that would acquire 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.800 him as much as twenty one point one million in 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.680 twenty twenty five, and in his words, the final three 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:18.280 years is set up to be a pay as you go, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.120 So essentially, what I think he's getting at is you 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.600 could maneuver in the last three years to kind of 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.680 either keep him or not keep him, or pay him 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.919 or or a justice contents. There are some flexibility in 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.320 the final three years. That all being said, would you 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.400 be willing to go out and trade for Jalen Ramsey 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:36.800 and what would you be willing to give up for? 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:38.560 Yeah, that's a good question. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.120 I'm sitting here pulling up his contract and what that 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.520 would look like from a financial perspective. So you mentioned 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.200 the twenty one point one correct that. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.520 Would be impossible this year. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.280 I've Cowboys currently have right around thirty seven million dollars 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.760 in cap space, So you know, let's let's say that 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.080 they do make this type of addition, they would be 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.040 kind of limited to making cheap editions the rest of 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.799 the way at different spots and depth units on. 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.240 Both sides of the ball. Is that a bad thing? 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.799 Not necessarily, I mean it's I can't imagine that they're 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.640 going to be paying more than a couple million to 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.320 a player anyway over the course of the next year, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.160 so as it counts towards this cap. But it is 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.960 something that you have to manage because cap space is 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.560 also determined by practice squad elevations. It's determined by guys 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.200 you have to sign here in the season if injuries 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:21.760 come about. I mean, you have to be able to 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.760 plan for those types of things. It would just make 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.080 the financials a little bit tighter. But you talk about 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.040 the talent for Jalen Ramsey, what he could bring to 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.679 the field. Granted he's not what he was when he 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:32.640 first started his career, but I still think he plays 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.680 at a Pro Bowl level. This is a really talented 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.360 corner that has made plays for Miami. He'd be thirty 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.040 going into next season, so he would still have some 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.240 time left on his deal and both as well as 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.920 his age. But what I'd be willing to give up 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.840 considering the financials, considering everything around it, probably one of 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.440 those compensatory fifths that would be probably the max of 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.200 what I would be willing to give up for that. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.480 You're in a situation right now where we've had some 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.640 corners that got extended here recently, and Jalen Ramsey has 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.440 always seen himself as one of those guys, and so 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.240 what you're gonna have to deal with. I would not 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.160 make this deal unless I had assurance that Jalen Ramsey 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.160 was not going to hold out on me and ask 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.039 for more money this year or just in general. And 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.719 if you look at what he did when he left 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.640 the Rams to go to the Dolphins, what do he do? 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.520 He signed an extension. He is one of these guys 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.880 that is very He's got a lot of pride. He 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:32.479 wants to be one of the top paid corners in 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.880 the league, and he consistently has been that guy. But 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.640 we've seen some contracts that have become pretty significant. You 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.800 look at with Stingley down there with the Texans, you 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.360 look at with Cirtan in Denver. There's been some contracts 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:51.159 that have gone up remarkably. And so to me, I'm 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.240 not gonna make this deal if that's the case. I'm 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.960 just not I'm just saying. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:00.560 If he is actively asking to be to renegotiate, negotiate 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.120 the contract and be up there at the top. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.520 If he immediately wants to be paid one of the 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.760 top three corners in this league, I'm not interested in 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.720 this trade. But if he's going to come in and 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.320 play under the current contract, and as you mentioned, Derek 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.280 pay as we go kind of thing, I'd be interested. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.160 And I think Nick has got the compensation right. I 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.560 know I've reached out to several might call my gang 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.480 of seven around the league that and they have they 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.680 kind of feel like that, Well, hey, you know you don't. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.120 It's not as steep as you might think. I think 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.720 the fifth round compensation is very fair there, and so 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:37.799 to me, I'm I'm only interested if I get assurance 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.560 from him and his agent that he's not going to 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.800 come in here and say I demand that I become 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.240 one of the top three paid corners like he's been 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.840 in the past. And if we can agree on that, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.080 then I'm going to continue to explore. If not, I'm 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.400 probably going to play with him somewhere else or play 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.560 against him somewhere else. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.720 Yeah, Tylan, wise, I would absolutely love to have him here. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.279 His the guy that we've looked at since he was drafted, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:06.040 you know, when we were talking about the draft of 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.440 his career. He's the guy that the Cowboys are we 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.239 in podcasts, in the media, we're talking and looking at 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.279 a whole lot. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:14.960 Obviously didn't end up. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.320 Here with the team, but I think talent wise, yes, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.200 but right now it just doesn't really make a whole 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.720 lot of sense. I think financially, yes, they could potentially 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.400 do it, but I think it does put you in 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.240 a tight spot, just like Nick mentioned, and when it 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.839 comes to what that also would bring, just like Brian said, 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.360 I don't think the Cowboys are in a position where 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.440 they're willing to deal with something like that. They already 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 have things that they're still trying to figure out. We 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:47.040 have Micah Parson's deal coming up, and you mentioned the 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.560 contract extension that they just did with Trevon Diggs. Also, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.839 that's something that Bland is coming up as well. So 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.279 I think it doesn't make a whole lot of sense 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:03.279 financially in that sense. But and also the time that 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.920 this is happening, I think, and I truly believe right now, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.000 the Cowboys are one hundred percent focused on the draft. 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.080 We're eight days away from the start of the draft, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.240 and this is a time where they just center in 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:21.200 and they're just let's developed, let's bringing talent, new talent developed, developed. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.200 So yeah, I would like. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.000 It, but I don't see it happening. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.760 Yeah that, Brian, eight days, eight days? 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:27.360 How about that? 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.880 How much does the deron Bland into that? 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.760 A lot? Yeah? 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.120 A lot? 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.760 You know, they they they feel like they feel like 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.480 that they have a young talent with Bland, and you know, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.680 is it going to cost them. You know, maybe it 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.800 will cost them the money that that Ramsey's currently making, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.040 maybe you know more. I mean, you know, Bland is 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.160 Bland did a great job of coming back from the injury, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:50.840 had a little bit of a slow start, but you know, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.600 picked up things. They think the world to him. But 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.320 they're their corner situation. And Nick will tell you this 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.320 as well. They're looking at corners in this draft. I 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.160 mean they're and there's several of them, and you know, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.480 they've got they've got a couple of these guys that 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.440 they could look at, whether it's it's at twelve, or 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.360 they could look at a guy at forty four, you know, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.480 or they could look at a guy there in the 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.120 third round. So there are plenty of corners. You know 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.200 that they have the talent of Jalen Ramsey. Some of 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.400 them do, absolutely some of them do, and some of 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.000 them will be a lot less expensive. But I think 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.200 the Bland thing, I think that plays in their mind 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.440 a little bit here when they're when they're talking about 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.840 this too. Jalen Ramsey as an addition would be outstanding, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.560 but they have to think about other other things as 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.120 far as players they currently have and maybe players they 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:34.800 want to extend. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.959 Jalen Ramsey's making twenty four point one million per year 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.000 right now, that's the third highest clip in the NFL. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.160 Trayvon Diggs is at the ninth highest clip in the NFL. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.520 So if you were to add Jalen Ramsey to these books, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.000 you'd basically be telling de Ron Bland, hey, you got 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.400 one year, here, go shine and get you a big 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.439 contractbel I'll make go around. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:58.480 And I know, no, he he's the ideal player. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:08:58.880 No. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.120 I mean you look at Darron Blank. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.680 I just cannot imagine where a situation where you don't 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.480 give him the contract that he deserves. He has been 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.640 such a good player for you. He's so problematic, he 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:16.240 doesn't causes an issue. He's so not a flashy player, 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.760 doesn't have that extravagant personality. He just comes in, does 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.760 what he does, does what he needs to do, focuses 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.439 on what he needs to achieve. He came back from 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.960 that injury. I thought he did a great job. Obviously 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.440 it takes him a little while, but I thought he 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.000 did an excellent job. And he's so dedicated to the game, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.439 and we've seen the impact that he brings when he's 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:38.199 playing on the field. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.360 So it's just a hard situation. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.000 There can ask a real quick question, and Nick Ill 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:45.240 asked this of you. Would you consider playing him at 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.080 safety like Charles Woodson did late in his career. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.479 Talking about Ramsey or Ramsey Ramsey. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.400 Yeah, I mean play him is a free I mean 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.440 the guy has got toughness, he's got range. Yeah, I 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.720 mean he's going to get in on tackles. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:58.400 You could. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.400 You know, he plays with his eyes eyes, he gambles 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.240 a little bit. I mean, he's The question was when 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.320 he was coming out, if we all remember, we were 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:10.640 all talking about and really Rod Marinelli, the administration didn't 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.200 really know is he a safety or is he a corner? 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.040 And you know, Rod and that group signed off on 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.960 Zeke because they felt like that Zeke would help him, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.200 you know, in the game with yards and stuff and 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.600 keep the defense off the field. So you know, but 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.720 they had questions like we playing at corner? Do we 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.280 play at safety? Well, he's become an All Pro safety, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.800 was gonna be a corner. But would you consider it 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.840 late in the career shift like we saw with the Charles. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.719 Woodson, Yeah, that would I think it could certainly work. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:37.880 You talk about his range, you mentioned that he's played 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.199 majority of ly in zone schemes in the past, and 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.080 he's been a ballhawk. I think he could be able 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.480 to track really well. He's got good tackling too. I 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:46.200 wouldn't have any issues with that. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.960 But the money, right, I was to say that money, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.400 we have great ideas until they say we'll pay. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.040 The bills, still be counting on the books. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.040 Yeah, I think there was an assumption that you just 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.000 made that if they were to do this, that would 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.120 mean that they'd be telling Bland you only have one 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.720 more year. Are we sure that Bland would be the 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.760 person that they might opt to let go versus maybe 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.880 moving on at some point from Trayvon Diggs. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.560 Well, yeah, and that's certainly part of it. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.840 I think fastball Yeah. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.280 No, but know and Igat, I think here's the thing. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.200 Here's the thing when you think about roster management. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.000 Oh no, you're you're not rong half three. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.800 I wouldn't think you're not. Three cornerbacks are high they paid. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.199 So if you're going to. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.280 Go the route of going out and getting a Jayler Malliams, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.080 which quite frankly, I just don't think the Cowboys are 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.480 going to do. I think they're happy with the two 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.079 they have. But if they were going to do it, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.400 I think they would have to have a conversation of 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.319 who are the two we want long term? That would 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.120 and that's where you have to make this and I 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.480 don't so I don't think it's necessarily a foegun conclusion 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.120 if they go that route, that Bland is the one 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:45.480 that they say goodbye to. 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.960 Yeah, let's uh, let's say that they give Deron Bland 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.400 a twenty three million dollars per year to deal. Maybe 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.280 that's a little high, but let's just let's just say 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.120 that considering how the market could change over the course. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.640 In between I'm sorry, in between somebody, did you have 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.040 somebody mind? Do you have something? 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:01.120 Not? 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:01.360 Really? 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.600 I have him right above Jay R Alexander, right above 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.480 aj Trell. I just think that's probably the money you 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.720 could earn next offseason. You know, talk about Derek Stingley 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.600 getting thirty j C hornetting twenty five. Yeah, if you're 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.560 paying him twenty three per year over the course of 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.840 let's say four years, the dead money slash cap savings 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.079 that you would have by letting go of Trayvon Digs 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.920 next off season with a post June one cut you'd 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.120 have to be squeezing some pennies in twenty twenty six, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.600 but it would almost be a direct compensation going from 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.200 twenty seven to twenty eight. The savings you would have 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.800 in twenty seven for letting go of Trayvon digs twenty 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.400 and a half million, twenty twenty eight, twenty one million. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.200 So then you would be trying to come up with 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.440 two or three million to to, you know, make it 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.559 even for Adron Bland situation going forward. But I yeah, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.800 that's that's where things get a little bit tough. But 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.400 all three of these guys would still be counting towards 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.599 the books in twenty five. Granted Bland still on his 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.280 rookie deal. But I truly believe that they have to 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.880 figure out how to Paydron Bland before anything. And that includes, Hey, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.120 if Jalen Ramsey makes this too tight or we're gonna 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.160 have to do some gymnastic to make it happen, then 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.160 I wouldn't make it happen. I think Deron Blands that 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:04.760 important towards the future of this defense. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.520 Here's the other thing I would wonder, and I don't 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.439 know if this is possible, but is there a way 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.400 to basically rent Jalen Ramsey, so you can take on 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.920 the salary for this year and then after this year 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.199 move on. I would love that because it gives me 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.640 an opportunity to be able to protect myself in the 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.720 event Trayvon Diggs's injury lasts deeper into the season. And 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.240 if it doesn't and Trayvon's ready to play, great. I 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.520 got three corners, and by the way, you need three, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:29.640 you got three corners. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.240 You can roll up there. You just slide blam right 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:32.160 in there into the slot. 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.320 And I love those three cornerbacks together at least for 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.800 a year. And then going into next year, you move 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.319 on from Ramsey. You let him go out and get 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.600 his big deal from someone else. So, Brian, when you 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:42.440 said I. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.559 Will cope full of creativity today. 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.120 Well, I'm just saying. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.520 When Brian was like, I wouldn't do it if he 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.319 was gonna want the bigger contract, I agree with you, 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.160 But I would only do it if he was gonna 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.000 hold out next year. If he agreed to come and 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.199 play this year at this amount of money, and then 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.079 after that, if you want to go out and search 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.600 the market and try to get a better deal, we'll 0:13:59.640 --> 0:13:59.959 let you do it. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.640 I'm actually I have to get that assurance though, that 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.559 when excuse me, when I trade for you, that you're 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.800 not going to immediately watch this year and say this year, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.800 wait a minute, I need I need closer to the 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.640 thirty million dollars is the top salary. I need closer. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.880 I need twenty seven, you know. And I'm like, wait 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.360 a minute, No, you're this and this is what we 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.560 see if you're if you immediately want to come in here, 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.120 and I just a gut feeling I think he would. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.120 I think he would come in here and he would 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.760 want to be paid like one of the top corners. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.880 This guy's a very prideful guy. He always has believed 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.240 that he is one of the top corners in this league. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.400 And he is and he is he is he is. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.880 But at a certain level, you know, you have to 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.600 think about, okay, what's best because you, like we said, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.040 you've already got a young guy on the on the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.480 roster that you want to get done. And I applaud 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.840 you for bringing up digs. That was one of those 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.280 times where I'm like, going, okay, we're going to talk 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.960 about digs here, you know, And we did, and I 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.960 think that's something that that needs to be discussed when 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.920 you talk about team building and going forward. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.440 Yeah, I think at the end of the day, if 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.320 it were all like, if it all could work out 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.120 perfectly for the Cowboys, they could have Jalen Ramsey here 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.480 for a year and protect themselves with regards to the 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.119 injury to Digs, and then moving forward, your two cornerbacks 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.240 are Digs and Bland. I think they're younger. I think 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.040 they're both on the com I think they're all they're growing, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.040 and I think they're growing together. And I think if 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.520 I could just get to a point where I could 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.440 see both of them on the field for seventeen games. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.080 Yeah, hell give me fifteen games. If I could see 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.760 both of them on the field together, you know, Like, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.640 I think that could be really great for the Cowboys. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.000 If Carson would have played better, we wouldn't have this discussion. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.200 Fair probably wouldn't be having this discussion if Carson was 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.680 a guy that like when Bland was rookie and then 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.840 played and we're all of a sudden, we're like going, Wow, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.400 this guy's really getting it. This guy's a good player, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.760 and then you know, but Carson didn't do that, So 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.760 now we have to have discussions about corners at twelve, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.600 corners at forty four. You know, we have to have 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.040 these discussions, because you're absolutely right they don't right now. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.000 They're pretty spot with corner, they really really are, so 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.280 to me, yeah, a lot of question mark, a lot 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.280 of question marks there. And you know they probably feel 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.960 better about other positions than they do corner. And that's 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.800 why at twelve I wouldn't I wouldn't say that corner's 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.800 out out not in the picture there. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.240 And I will say this to Bryant from that standpoint, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.440 if the Dallas Cowboys go out and invest the first 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.479 round pick in cornerback, I still think the same conversation 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.480 comes up because about about Diggs or Bland, like you're 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.400 gonna do you if you are? Yeah, are really going 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.480 to great around because if you got a first round pick, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.040 your expectation you want him on the field. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.000 Put him on the field all the time, right, I agree? 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.320 And then that questions like who is the other starter 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.360 and who's the person that's left out. It may not 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.920 be a problem early on if Diggs is nursing the 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.040 injury and coming back from injury, but when he's one 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.400 hundred percent healthy, how does that all play out, and 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.520 I think that becomes really really interesting. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:51.000 Uh. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.640 You know, you can never have too many corners, don't 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.600 get me wrong, but you certainly want that first round 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:55.000 pick out there. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.200 He hasn't. The problem with Diggs is he hasn't really 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.440 been healthy the last couple of years. I mean, that's 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.880 that's the real issue here right now. 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My question for you 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.399 guys is, as you look at those two guys, particularly, 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.679 which do you think is better if the Cowboys had 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.840 to start the season right now and they had what 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:37.919 they had in order to start the season, who do 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.240 you think is the starting running back? And then talk 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.760 to me about roles and what kind of roles each 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:43.560 one could play. 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:45.320 Talking about Williams and Sanders. 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.080 Williams because I assume those are who you would have 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.080 as at the top of the deaf it's Davis. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:51.439 I'm Davis here. 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.240 I'm gonna guess, Joe, I know who it is. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.040 I about to say, it's going to be that Malik 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.080 Davis is about to get a start in week one. 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.320 Yeah, it's start a Hunter Lipkey runing in early. Would 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.200 I would start him with Javonte Williams on third. Yeah, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.520 But looking at it from a realistic standpoint in a 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:12.240 modern day offense, Javonte Williams he probably exactly exactly or 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.120 Peyton hillis he makes the most sense Javonte Williams as 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.840 as the starter with this group right now. But uh, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.040 it's it's no doubt that this is going to be 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.160 these guys are going to be competing with a rookie. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.760 But in the spirit of the conversation right now, Javonte 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.679 Williams just based on what he did in Denver and 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.280 the role that he played there. Uh, and you also 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.520 pair that with what Miles Sanders did or did not 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.280 do in Carolina. I mean you saw the they basically 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.439 they brought in Jonathan Brooks to play over him. And 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.240 obviously Brooks hasn't been healthy. But when you start seeing 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.240 high premium draft picks around veterans, that's that doesn't speak 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:46.159 a lot of confidence into those veterans. So Javonte Williams 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.280 I think would be the starter today and you would 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.240 have Miles Sanders kind of rotate in as Javonte needed 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.000 to come off the field. I'd be giving him the 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.159 majority of the carries. If this was the group that 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:56.000 I needed right now. 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.359 Yeah, this is where I have a little problem right now. 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.880 I feel like with the coaching staff at the position, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.199 with your coordinator, you got a guy that knows how 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.320 to run the football. You got a line coach that 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.240 is very familiar with the physical style of running the 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.359 football from Kansas State as well. So that's an upgrade 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.120 right there for you to kind of get things going 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.879 the right way. But you let Rico daddle walk, and 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.560 to me that that's not good because where I would 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.160 have and Nick maybe can help me here on this one. 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:33.040 You have Rico daddele here, you can have some flexibility 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.399 to picking a fifth round running back and pair him 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.840 with rico' daddle and you would be fine. Now you 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.960 forced yourself, I believe, to have to take a running 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.600 back within the first three picks, because you really don't. 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:45.800 Now. 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:50.160 The thing with Williams is he catches the ball very well, 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.919 and he blocks very well, and he's coming. You know, 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.280 Sean Payton knows how to use running backs and he 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.960 just didn't have you know, but Sewan's going to look 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.359 for running back. Watch at twenty at Denver, they're going 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.879 to get a running back because Sean knows he needs one. 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.159 But they moved on. And and you know, nothing against 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.960 Smiles Sanders either, but I think his time is done too. 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.200 If you had Rico daddle and this is I'm sorry, 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.560 I'm just gonna bring it up. If you had rico' daddle, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.600 you could make you could pick one of a running 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.240 back in the fifth round and pair it with him 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:20.639 and you'd be just fine. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.040 So you'd think you'd think ric o'daddle is better at 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:23.520 this point. 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.840 Yes, Williams, Yes, I do it. Yeah, I do and 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:27.520 if you had to start it, and we've seen it 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:30.320 with their own eyes, you know, once they once they 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.440 started handing him the ball and they made the change 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.840 at right guard, they were healthier there at right guard. 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.240 Steele started playing better, BB was getting better at second 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:43.040 level blocks. The right guard situation was that they did 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.800 some combination stuff, got some things going there. But rico' 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.520 daddell here, he if if he was here, you could 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.680 wait to the fifth round and grab a running back. 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:57.520 But now I think you have to have to grab 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.160 one of these running backs in the first three rounds. 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.200 I don't think you can wait to the fifth round 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.520 and say, Okay, let's get a fifth round back and 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.840 let's pair him with Williams and Sanderson, see how it goes. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.720 Let me ask you this because I was I was 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:13.000 actually having this conversation with Isaiah stand back yesterday and 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.280 we were talking about the running back position. I think 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.600 we all, everybody at this table, and a lot of 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.440 people I have talked to in the media all agree 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.959 that the Cowboys got made themselves better by the coaches 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.760 a Brant. I think you look at the Arizona Cardinals 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.440 and what they've been able to do the last couple 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.719 of years in the running game, and I look at 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.680 that and I'm like, they didn't have an all pro 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.439 caliber running back. In my opinion, James Connor was hurt 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:38.720 for part of the tign But James Connor to me 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.480 as a solid running back, I don't put him as 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.320 one of the best running backs in the league. They 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.879 were able to create and manufacture a top one of 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.960 the top one of the better running games in the 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.919 NFL with solid running backs, solid offensive line. But the 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.720 scheme had a lot to do with It reminds me 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.440 a lot of and you'll appreciate this Brian, those old 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:02.920 school Brian Broncos with Mike Shanahan where they ran in 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.320 Reuben Drones whoever they ran in every year, that guy 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:07.840 was gonna put up a bunch of yards on the 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.639 ground because the scheme was just so good and they 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.600 had they had the ability to be able to put 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.359 the offensive line in the right positions to make the blocks, 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.080 and the all they need is a back that could 0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.359 hit the hole where it needed to hit it and 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:24.119 go downhill. And so my question is, from that standpoint, 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.320 do you really need to get a running back early 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:29.560 in order to get some or do you need to 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.159 just get someone that has the right traits or that 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.679 runs the ball the right way for this scheme and 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.719 they can be just as effective here as you know 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.679 a top running back would be in another system. 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.520 Yeah, and I think that's a fascinating question when you 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.840 look at this draft class, right because you you could 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.240 theoretically wait until day three and. 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:47.840 You'd be taking some chances. Don't get me wrong. 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.280 Yeah, but you could find a guy with the right 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.680 trades to pair with Javonte Williams that I think could 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.560 work for this offense. You just see a guy that 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.040 can get you yards on early downs. That's it's really 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.040 as simple as that. You would love to have a 0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.760 guy that has a little bit more and could be 0:25:59.880 --> 0:26:01.800 very and can be that guy whenever you move on 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.520 from Javonte Williams. But if you're talking about twenty twenty 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.639 five specifically the immediate urgent need, you just need a 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.560 guy that can get you yards on early downs that 0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.000 when the game starts, when that first drive comes out, 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.200 you can rely on him to get five six yards 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.879 and start drives with some momentum. I just feel like 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.080 they haven't had that at times. And Rico Daudle Yes, 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.280 he played well down the stretch last year, but it 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.480 felt like every time he was given the ball to 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.840 start a drive when everyone in the building knows that 0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:27.920 they're handing it off, he couldn't get those four or 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.560 five yards. I need a guy when everybody in the 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.840 stadium knows, hey, they're gonna haven the ball off right here, 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.480 that he can go get four or five. And I 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.000 think you can get that guy in the third round. 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.240 I think you can get that guy in the fifth. 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.240 You'd be taking some chances, like I said, but I 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.280 don't think it's necessarily a need to go get the 0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:44.680 number one back in the class if he's not there for. 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.560 You, Nick, I'm gonna ask you this question. I don't 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.240 mean to turn it into a draft show, but the 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.240 thing about it is, do you have fourth round running 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.119 backs that you think are going to fall to the fifth? 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:54.479 Uh? 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:56.600 I look at a Kyle mcnung gai out of Rutgers. 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.080 That's a guy who could play on early downs, zero 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.080 fumbles and six hundred sixty nine carries too. 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.320 Look that Ollie Gordon. 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.119 I wonder how many people factor in his off the 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.240 field things and if he slips to the fifth talked 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.960 about my guy Land Larson at UC Davis. I think 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:11.360 he could probably be there in the fifth. 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.920 Those are st quick on Oli Gordon. Yeah, you said 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.720 all the field stuff. Is it more mental stuff or 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:18.760 is it like trouble you don't have to get. 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.359 To DJ Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a DUI in 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:26.240 twenty four. That was that was a public knowledge. The 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.920 leg he had a legac thank you. He had a 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.960 leg injury mid season last year. And granted he was 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.919 a Doke Walker Award winner in twenty twenty three for 0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.520 the nation's top running back in college. 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:37.840 I mean there was a point when. 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:39.800 He had got there that guy was gonna be the 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.240 next coming from standpoint of guys coming into the NFL. 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.920 If he came into the draft class last year, he 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:45.399 would have been the number one back. Take and no 0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.320 questions asked. But this guy this year, this past year, 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.800 really bad offensive line in Oklahoma State. He couldn't really 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.240 maneuver around it, didn't show a lot of contact balance 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.359 even though he's six foot two two twenty five. So 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.479 I wonder how many how much teams will value this 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.720 twenty four season compared to the twenty three year. But 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.320 you could get a guy if he channels what he 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.280 had in twenty three. Shoot, you're gonna have a pretty 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.240 good product on your hands. So Jarquois Hunter is another 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:08.480 guy that I have a fourth round grade on that 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:09.480 maybe could slip to the fifth. 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.639 It's just it just based on so you're really you. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.280 Are gambling a little bit there though right on undred percent. 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.800 Yeah, I mean you know it goes yeah, but if 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.520 you wait till anything, That's. 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.800 What I'm saying. I'm just worried though, that we're gonna 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.320 sit there in the fourth round and we're do in 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.160 the draft show and we're covering it, and then we'll 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.120 talk about all of a sudden in day three, those 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:28.879 backs just start, and I think there's gonna be a 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.920 run on backs and potentially in the third round as well. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.280 So we can see the run and then we'll maybe 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.640 see another run. And I wonder if if there's some guys, 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.719 if you if you told me with certainty and you 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.640 do a great job with the draft, Nick, if you 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.040 told me, hey, there's gonna be some fourth round guys 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.320 that are gonna be there in the fifth, then I 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:50.600 then I then I'll I'll go with you. But I'm 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.600 trying to I've kind of broke this thing down just 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.400 for simplicity, is the very good and the good. You 0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.560 know what I'm saying, if you give me a chance 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.920 to draft DF very good, I'm going to draft very 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.920 good because I know good is good is good, but 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.680 very good might be the difference. You know, some of 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.920 these lines you talk about, you know, with the with 0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:16.120 the Cardinals, their quarterback was a part of some of 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.720 the stuff, I mean, the threat of him running, and 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.080 you don't have that here. So people will be able 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:24.640 to say, Okay, can the offensive line in its current 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.920 configuration be good enough to be like with Arizona? 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:28.200 Yeah? 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.880 Possibly? Can the tiight ends block? Sure? You know that's 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.000 all possibly to the coaching, because we know the coaching 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.680 and stuff will be better. But the thing, like I said, 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.440 if you gave me an opportunity to draft very good 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.800 as opposed to good, I think that makes a difference. 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.080 I think backs do make a difference. That's why to me, 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.920 Ashton Genty when people are talking about why would you 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.240 take Ashton Genty? Because Ashton Genty makes your offensive line better. 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.000 His ability to make people miss make your offensive line better. 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.000 That's why if you have a guy that has that 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.880 kind of ability you know Harvey from Central floor. You 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.000 get a guy a draft like that, and all of 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.800 a sudden, he's making people miss your offensive lines better 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.840 because they don't always have to hold their blocks for 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.120 an extra count. They got backs that can make people 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.880 miss and get yards. Give me that. That's what I 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:17.640 wanted to back. 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.240 All Right, we're gonna go ahead to break, Go ahead, 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:22.400 I'm gonna wake. 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:22.680 No. 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:23.520 I would prefer here with you. 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:24.720 Take it to break. 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.360 All right, We're gonna take a break and come back 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.080 to the break. We're gonna go to Amber Garcia and 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:30.720 she's gonna have this great point for us, and with 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.480 our conversation, got time about the running back position. 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Nick looked at me, 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.440 We locked eyes and I just laughed. Okay, So that 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:39.160 was that, all right? 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.040 Before we went to break Amber had a point she 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:41.640 wanted to make. 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:42.400 That was your point? 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.920 Now, she mo, right, what did you make your point? 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.000 Hey, Hey, I'm gonna take my time. 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.560 All right? Yeah, we got what good a minutes? 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:51.120 So for it? 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.920 Good good, good, because I'm gonna try to verbalize what 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.440 was going through my head so as you. 0:33:59.000 --> 0:33:59.320 Insight. 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:00.960 Sorry inside joke. 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.080 Okay, while you guys were talking, I just kept going 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.640 back and forth on Okay, how big of a necessity 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.200 is it really for the cowboys to go get a 0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.240 very dynamic running back, and I'm going back and forth 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.280 in what I've seen in history with the Dallas Cowboys, 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.360 and I'm thinking, okay. 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.160 And I started running around when Zeke was drafted. 0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.120 At the time I did. I wasn't like crazy. I 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.040 know some people were choosing Zeke and they were looking 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:32.399 at him. 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.080 At the time. I was more focused on the defense 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:36.040 and a corner. 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.040 So then Zeke comes in and then you see the 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:45.040 fact that he had and the explosiveness and how everything. 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.440 Was just crazy and magical. 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.040 But you have to take into account how the offensive 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.000 line looked at the time, how great that line was. 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.680 And then I started going back, Okay, how did those 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.759 other guys that weren't like Zeke caliber look like with 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.880 such a good offensive line? And I went back to 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:07.760 think about Alfred Morris, you had Rod Smith, and I remember, 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.520 I don't have a clear memory, but I remember at 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.840 the time they were very efficient, not to the Zeke level, 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.360 but they were still productive and taking care of business. 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:22.279 Even when Darren McFadden he went in, when Romo went 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.520 in for that last series of his career here with 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.280 the Cowboys and in the NFL, and he was very effective. 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.640 They went down, they drove that thing down so easy, 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.920 got into the end zone. So again that leads me 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:43.320 back to thinking, Okay, necessity and priority number one solidifying 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.399 the offensive line, making sure we all know that's where 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:51.719 it all starts, and focus and number one problem here 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.800 is making sure you have that you won't give the 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.720 protection to Dak, but also it just makes the running 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.479 backs job easier. Now, with that being said, I feel 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.520 like you solidify that and you can still be productive 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.800 with the guys. Back to your original question, Derek, you 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.279 can still I feel like, be productive with the guys 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:16.120 you currently have. But back to Brian's point, how much 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.600 of that next level are you willing to take it? 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.960 And how much are you willing to invest that? And 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.080 we saw even last year when you don't have a 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.440 running game, and the running game took a while to 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:27.560 get going with. 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.040 Oh my god, well they took a while to get 0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:33.520 him going. 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.240 Yes, with the scheme and everything, but taken into account 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.680 everything that you guys said, the new coaching staff and 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:45.120 everything that they're trying to change up here, and really 0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.560 they've been very vocal about putting an effort and being 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.319 intentional with the running game. So I think that's going 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.480 to be a main focus point for this offense and 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.480 a big priority there. So I think taking all of 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.200 that into account, it just I just keep going back 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.959 and forth of Okay, what's the right at. 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.360 What point plan of attack? 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.360 Yeah, but for the draft specifically, at what point do 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.520 you really want to invest into. 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:14.160 A running back? 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.919 And I mean I hate hearing what Nick says because 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.840 then I feel like, Okay, you're making me think we 0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.080 can wait till day three. 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:22.800 But then that does make me nervous. 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.000 It makes everyone nervous. 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.960 But it's good to know that there is depth options, 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.760 so many options out there. But I think again, priority 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:31.839 number one offensive line. 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:33.960 Yeah, the way I look at that, and I agree 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.320 with a lot of what you say there, Abro. I 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.160 will say this though, if let's say, for example, in 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.320 the first round, Dallas gets wide receiver. 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:42.600 Let's say they get Teed or Golden, either one. 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.520 Let's say they pick up in the second or third round, 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.960 they pick up an offensive lineman in a cornerback. All right, 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.840 if they come away from days one and two with 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.840 those things, I feel a lot better about the idea 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.960 of getting even though you're taking a gamble getting a 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:02.480 running back. 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:03.600 Let's say in the fifth round. 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.040 The reason why is because I think at that point 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:10.560 you will have an offense that has hopefully, hopefully or 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.360 at least what you hope, what you're thinking, your offensive 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.960 line will be somewhat solidified. You feel good about where 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.160 you're going with your offensive line. You have the new 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.480 offensive coaches who are going to focus on that offensive 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.360 of that run game. You have now a second wide receiver, 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.319 which they've been really needing here for quite a while, 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.600 and you've sewn up what you what you needed to 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.040 take care of a cornerback. Those, in my opinion, are 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:35.760 your three biggest areas of need. And I think running 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.800 back you can manage those other positions. I don't know 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.520 that you can manage those positions if you don't come 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.600 away from the draft with people that can come in 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.959 and immediately contribute. I think running back you it won't 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.360 be optimal. I get your point, Bright, it won't be optimal, 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.960 But I think you can manage with those other things 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.319 you've done. I think you can manage to have your 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.839 running back be take a little more chance on your 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.960 running back than you can on those other positions. 0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:58.600 What do you guys think? 0:38:59.200 --> 0:38:59.960 Yeah, I think that's fair. 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.359 It's if I could sounds like you want to pick 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:05.239 offensive line at twelve. 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:09.000 Mbar im Okay, all right. 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.719 That's all about value though. My question for you guys, 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:13.840 y'all study the players. 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.680 Is there somebody projected to be there at twelve that's 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.840 worth that pick and is better, by the way, better 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.560 than the receivers that everybody's talking about, because quite frankly, 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.520 I look at that and I say, if I can 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.319 get that caliber receiver at twelve, unless you're gonna tell 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.640 me this offensive lineman to somebody that immediately walks in, 0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.200 he is a Zach Zach Martin. 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:32.880 He's walking in. 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.640 He's going to be your starter at guard or tackle 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.000 for the next I don't know, eight to ten years. 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.800 They're great. Let's let's let's have that conversation. 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:45.319 Has been great when drafting offensive lineman in that first round. 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:49.480 So I know that they know how to evaluate evaluate 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.120 these players when it comes to the line on offense. 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.400 And I think that. 0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.719 Again, I know Nick has said before that he thinks 0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.000 is gonna get back into being more mobile. 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.680 Potentially, that's just his intention. That's just his intention. 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.040 Okay, ye, his. 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.200 Intention is to be back more to be mobile. Again, 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.319 I don't know how much I believe in that until 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.719 I see it. So I think there is even not 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.080 just the running game, but also Dak's game in general. 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.240 I think there is just a bigger necessity in making 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.200 sure you have someone that's very, very solid. Now, I 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.360 don't do the draft show like you guys do, so 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.879 you know better where that level of talent fits best. 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.440 Depending on the rounds, I. 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.600 Only have Teed McMillan is the only receiver that I 0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:39.120 have above the first line or first round offensive lineman, 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.240 and those first round offensive linemen armand Membu out of Missouri, 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.920 will camp Out Lsu Kevin Banks out of Texas. So 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:46.840 those three guys, I. 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.560 Mean you would you stretch and do either one of 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:50.839 them pick out of one of them? At twelve? 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.160 It worth different Millin is there no no, But based 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.560 on my if I'm sticking to my board, I would 0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:00.319 be going with an offensive lineman because Membo I think 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.040 he would have some right guard flexibility. 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:02.760 Will Campbell. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.239 It would be Will Campbell and Ketwen Banks. They played 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:06.960 on the left side, but you would have to kind 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:08.960 of maneuver them and make them a little bit more 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.239 comfortable on the right side at guard. But I don't know, 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.760 it's you would definitely have to move some things around 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.160 and it would be a little difficult. You just drafted 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.080 a left tackle in the first round last year, so 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.040 are you giving up on that if you draft a 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.480 first round offensive lineman and it's just there'd be a 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.120 lot of questions you'd have to ask about it. But 0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:28.040 I mean they have put in resources with thirty visits 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.399 and formal meetings of the combine in evaluating these first 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.800 round offensive linemen armand Membu is one of those guys, 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:34.879 so you have to factor that in as well. 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:40.480 Yeah, it's if it's I have Josh Simmons from Ohio 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.920 State is one of my best offensive linemen and and 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.360 he is the only guy that I have above McMillan 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:51.640 on my stack. So to me, that's where Campbell's right 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.759 there for me. Membu's right there for me as well. 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:58.120 I have Banks a little bit later, you know, twenty 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.799 one on my stack. So I'm kind of I would 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.800 be committed to the first three names of Simmons, Campbell 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:08.920 or Mimbo, you know, over McMillan. I I'll tell you what. 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.520 The thing with Golden, The thing with Golden at wide 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:13.799 receiver just makes so much sense for me right now. 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.200 It really really does. But you know, but if if 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.160 you told me that, hey, one of those, don't I 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.040 said this, I don't think you can wipe me out 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.680 at twelve, right, Well don't. And somebody tried to wipe 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.239 me out the other day by taking the backs and 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.960 taking the wide receivers out of it in a mock draft. 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.880 And then I just picked Memboo and I just and 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.000 I moved on, and I'm like, you know, you can't. 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.879 You cannot wipe this team out at twelve. I don't 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.600 believe so to me. And to Amber's point, that to 0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.399 me would be the one he said if you said 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.000 a kind of a surprise position to take, I think 0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.480 offensive line tight end would be the most surprising to 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.600 me in the first but then offensive tackle would probably 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.319 be the next most surprising group to me. Oor safety, Uh, 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.520 I think safety is you know, I don't know if 0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:05.520 they would take somebody at twelve. That's That's what I'm saying. Yea, yeah, 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.440 at twelve. I but tight end, Yeah, you could throw 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.920 safety in there. But I kind of feel like, though 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.239 to me, the fact that they visited one, I think 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.560 they visited us more of a second round one of 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.759 the names that we had. But you can't wipe this 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:22.239 team out with the draft because or with an order 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.640 of guys going off the board ahead of them, they 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.360 they'll have somebody that they can fall back on, and 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.880 like I say, a guy like Membo, I'd have absolutely 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:30.759 no problem with that one. 0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.520 All right, that's a wrap for us. We will be 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.480 back next week. Actually next next Wednesday will be on 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.920 and on Thursday the draft begins. So next week we'll 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.040 talk a little bit more about draft, talk about who 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.320 you guys really want to see or expect the Cowboys 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.040 to select with that number one overall pick. 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.359 Brian, Can I give you a homework assignment for next week? Sure? Question. 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.200 I want to ask you guys, could the receiver you 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.279 draft potentially at twelve be better than ce d Lamb? 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.440 You're trying to get messy, No, I'm not, just could 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:03.040 the receiver you drafted well eventually be better than all Right, 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:03.920 we'll think about we'll. 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.160 Talk about that. We'll talk about that when we come back. 0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.640 We'll be back next week on Wednesday, same time till 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.520 then for Nick Harris, Brian brod Us to Namagarci. I'm 0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.399 Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas 0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.400 Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.400 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.399 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.