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Welcome to the show. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 7: We've got forty five minutes of Cowboys talk for you guys. 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 7: We're going to continue our position series today. I'll talk 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 7: a little bit about the running back position and if 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 7: we get time, and then if we have enough time, 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 7: we'll also get to the linebacker position. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 7: But before we get to those things, there were a 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 7: couple of little news and notes that I wanted to 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 7: hit with the crew. I think the first thing I 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 7: wanted to talk about is not the Cowboys, but another 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 7: player on another team who has been the team has 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 7: said they are going to let him and they will 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 7: be looking for a deal to possibly trade him. One 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 7: Jalen rams cornerback of the Miami Dolphins. My question for 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 7: you guys is, and I'll read first Chris Cryer, who 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 7: is the GM of the Miami Dolphins. This was this 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 7: quote in a press conference. At the end of the day, 35 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 7: Jalen did not ask for a trade. We went through 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 7: the process and I just felt after numerous conversations and 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 7: talking last week to week with Jalen and his agent, 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 7: that it was best to move forward. It was in 39 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 7: the best interest to Miami Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey. It 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 7: is clear that they are looking to trade him. What 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 7: I've read according to one Mo Moten on bleacher Report, 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 7: he said it could cost the team that would acquire 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 7: him as much as twenty one point one million in 44 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, and in his words, the final three 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 7: years is set up to be a pay as you go, 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 7: So essentially, what I think he's getting at is you 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 7: could maneuver in the last three years to kind of 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 7: either keep him or not keep him, or pay him 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 7: or or a justice contents. There are some flexibility in 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 7: the final three years. That all being said, would you 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 7: be willing to go out and trade for Jalen Ramsey 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 7: and what would you be willing to give up for? 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good question. 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 9: I'm sitting here pulling up his contract and what that 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 9: would look like from a financial perspective. So you mentioned 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 9: the twenty one point one correct that. 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: Would be impossible this year. 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 9: I've Cowboys currently have right around thirty seven million dollars 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 9: in cap space, So you know, let's let's say that 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 9: they do make this type of addition, they would be 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 9: kind of limited to making cheap editions the rest of 62 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 9: the way at different spots and depth units on. 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 8: Both sides of the ball. Is that a bad thing? 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 9: Not necessarily, I mean it's I can't imagine that they're 65 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 9: going to be paying more than a couple million to 66 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 9: a player anyway over the course of the next year, 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 9: so as it counts towards this cap. But it is 68 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 9: something that you have to manage because cap space is 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 9: also determined by practice squad elevations. It's determined by guys 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 9: you have to sign here in the season if injuries 71 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 9: come about. I mean, you have to be able to 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 9: plan for those types of things. It would just make 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 9: the financials a little bit tighter. But you talk about 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 9: the talent for Jalen Ramsey, what he could bring to 75 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 9: the field. Granted he's not what he was when he 76 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 9: first started his career, but I still think he plays 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 9: at a Pro Bowl level. This is a really talented 78 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 9: corner that has made plays for Miami. He'd be thirty 79 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 9: going into next season, so he would still have some 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 9: time left on his deal and both as well as 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 9: his age. But what I'd be willing to give up 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 9: considering the financials, considering everything around it, probably one of 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 9: those compensatory fifths that would be probably the max of 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 9: what I would be willing to give up for that. 85 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: You're in a situation right now where we've had some 86 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 4: corners that got extended here recently, and Jalen Ramsey has 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: always seen himself as one of those guys, and so 88 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: what you're gonna have to deal with. I would not 89 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: make this deal unless I had assurance that Jalen Ramsey 90 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: was not going to hold out on me and ask 91 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: for more money this year or just in general. And 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 4: if you look at what he did when he left 93 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: the Rams to go to the Dolphins, what do he do? 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: He signed an extension. He is one of these guys 95 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: that is very He's got a lot of pride. He 96 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 4: wants to be one of the top paid corners in 97 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: the league, and he consistently has been that guy. But 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: we've seen some contracts that have become pretty significant. You 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: look at with Stingley down there with the Texans, you 100 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: look at with Cirtan in Denver. There's been some contracts 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: that have gone up remarkably. And so to me, I'm 102 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: not gonna make this deal if that's the case. I'm 103 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 4: just not I'm just saying. 104 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 7: If he is actively asking to be to renegotiate, negotiate 105 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 7: the contract and be up there at the top. 106 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: If he immediately wants to be paid one of the 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: top three corners in this league, I'm not interested in 108 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: this trade. But if he's going to come in and 109 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: play under the current contract, and as you mentioned, Derek 110 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: pay as we go kind of thing, I'd be interested. 111 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: And I think Nick has got the compensation right. I 112 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: know I've reached out to several might call my gang 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: of seven around the league that and they have they 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: kind of feel like that, Well, hey, you know you don't. 115 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: It's not as steep as you might think. I think 116 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 4: the fifth round compensation is very fair there, and so 117 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 4: to me, I'm I'm only interested if I get assurance 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: from him and his agent that he's not going to 119 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: come in here and say I demand that I become 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: one of the top three paid corners like he's been 121 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: in the past. And if we can agree on that, 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: then I'm going to continue to explore. If not, I'm 123 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: probably going to play with him somewhere else or play 124 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: against him somewhere else. 125 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, Tylan, wise, I would absolutely love to have him here. 126 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 10: His the guy that we've looked at since he was drafted, 127 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 10: you know, when we were talking about the draft of 128 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 10: his career. He's the guy that the Cowboys are we 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 10: in podcasts, in the media, we're talking and looking at 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 10: a whole lot. 131 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 5: Obviously didn't end up. 132 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 10: Here with the team, but I think talent wise, yes, 133 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 10: but right now it just doesn't really make a whole 134 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 10: lot of sense. I think financially, yes, they could potentially 135 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 10: do it, but I think it does put you in 136 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 10: a tight spot, just like Nick mentioned, and when it 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 10: comes to what that also would bring, just like Brian said, 138 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 10: I don't think the Cowboys are in a position where 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 10: they're willing to deal with something like that. They already 140 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 10: have things that they're still trying to figure out. We 141 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 10: have Micah Parson's deal coming up, and you mentioned the 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 10: contract extension that they just did with Trevon Diggs. Also, 143 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 10: that's something that Bland is coming up as well. So 144 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 10: I think it doesn't make a whole lot of sense 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 10: financially in that sense. But and also the time that 146 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 10: this is happening, I think, and I truly believe right now, 147 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 10: the Cowboys are one hundred percent focused on the draft. 148 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 10: We're eight days away from the start of the draft, 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 10: and this is a time where they just center in 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 10: and they're just let's developed, let's bringing talent, new talent developed, developed. 151 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 8: So yeah, I would like. 152 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: It, but I don't see it happening. 153 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 8: Yeah that, Brian, eight days, eight days? 154 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: How about that? 155 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: How much does the deron Bland into that? 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: A lot? Yeah? 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 8: A lot? 158 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: You know, they they they feel like they feel like 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: that they have a young talent with Bland, and you know, 160 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: is it going to cost them. You know, maybe it 161 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: will cost them the money that that Ramsey's currently making, 162 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: maybe you know more. I mean, you know, Bland is 163 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: Bland did a great job of coming back from the injury, 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: had a little bit of a slow start, but you know, 165 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: picked up things. They think the world to him. But 166 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: they're their corner situation. And Nick will tell you this 167 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: as well. They're looking at corners in this draft. I 168 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: mean they're and there's several of them, and you know, 169 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: they've got they've got a couple of these guys that 170 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: they could look at, whether it's it's at twelve, or 171 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 4: they could look at a guy at forty four, you know, 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: or they could look at a guy there in the 173 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: third round. So there are plenty of corners. You know 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: that they have the talent of Jalen Ramsey. Some of 175 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: them do, absolutely some of them do, and some of 176 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: them will be a lot less expensive. But I think 177 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: the Bland thing, I think that plays in their mind 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: a little bit here when they're when they're talking about 179 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: this too. Jalen Ramsey as an addition would be outstanding, 180 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: but they have to think about other other things as 181 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: far as players they currently have and maybe players they 182 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: want to extend. 183 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 9: Jalen Ramsey's making twenty four point one million per year 184 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 9: right now, that's the third highest clip in the NFL. 185 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 9: Trayvon Diggs is at the ninth highest clip in the NFL. 186 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 9: So if you were to add Jalen Ramsey to these books, 187 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 9: you'd basically be telling de Ron Bland, hey, you got 188 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 9: one year, here, go shine and get you a big 189 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 9: contractbel I'll make go around. 190 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 10: And I know, no, he he's the ideal player. 191 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 8: No. 192 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: I mean you look at Darron Blank. 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 10: I just cannot imagine where a situation where you don't 194 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 10: give him the contract that he deserves. He has been 195 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 10: such a good player for you. He's so problematic, he 196 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 10: doesn't causes an issue. He's so not a flashy player, 197 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 10: doesn't have that extravagant personality. He just comes in, does 198 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 10: what he does, does what he needs to do, focuses 199 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 10: on what he needs to achieve. He came back from 200 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 10: that injury. I thought he did a great job. Obviously 201 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 10: it takes him a little while, but I thought he 202 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 10: did an excellent job. And he's so dedicated to the game, 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 10: and we've seen the impact that he brings when he's 204 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 10: playing on the field. 205 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: So it's just a hard situation. 206 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: There can ask a real quick question, and Nick Ill 207 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: asked this of you. Would you consider playing him at 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: safety like Charles Woodson did late in his career. 209 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,479 Speaker 8: Talking about Ramsey or Ramsey Ramsey. 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean play him is a free I mean 211 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: the guy has got toughness, he's got range. Yeah, I 212 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: mean he's going to get in on tackles. 213 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: You could. 214 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: You know, he plays with his eyes eyes, he gambles 215 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: a little bit. I mean, he's The question was when 216 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: he was coming out, if we all remember, we were 217 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: all talking about and really Rod Marinelli, the administration didn't 218 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 4: really know is he a safety or is he a corner? 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: And you know, Rod and that group signed off on 220 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: Zeke because they felt like that Zeke would help him, 221 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, in the game with yards and stuff and 222 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: keep the defense off the field. So you know, but 223 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: they had questions like we playing at corner? Do we 224 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: play at safety? Well, he's become an All Pro safety, 225 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: was gonna be a corner. But would you consider it 226 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: late in the career shift like we saw with the Charles. 227 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 8: Woodson, Yeah, that would I think it could certainly work. 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 9: You talk about his range, you mentioned that he's played 229 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 9: majority of ly in zone schemes in the past, and 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 9: he's been a ballhawk. I think he could be able 231 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 9: to track really well. He's got good tackling too. I 232 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 9: wouldn't have any issues with that. 233 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: But the money, right, I was to say that money, 234 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: we have great ideas until they say we'll pay. 235 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 8: The bills, still be counting on the books. 236 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there was an assumption that you just 237 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 7: made that if they were to do this, that would 238 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 7: mean that they'd be telling Bland you only have one 239 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 7: more year. Are we sure that Bland would be the 240 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 7: person that they might opt to let go versus maybe 241 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 7: moving on at some point from Trayvon Diggs. 242 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and that's certainly part of it. 243 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: I think fastball Yeah. 244 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: No, but know and Igat, I think here's the thing. 245 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Here's the thing when you think about roster management. 246 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, you're you're not rong half three. 247 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't think you're not. Three cornerbacks are high they paid. 248 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: So if you're going to. 249 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 7: Go the route of going out and getting a Jayler Malliams, 250 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 7: which quite frankly, I just don't think the Cowboys are 251 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 7: going to do. I think they're happy with the two 252 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 7: they have. But if they were going to do it, 253 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 7: I think they would have to have a conversation of 254 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 7: who are the two we want long term? That would 255 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 7: and that's where you have to make this and I 256 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 7: don't so I don't think it's necessarily a foegun conclusion 257 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: if they go that route, that Bland is the one 258 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 7: that they say goodbye to. 259 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, let's uh, let's say that they give Deron Bland 260 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 9: a twenty three million dollars per year to deal. Maybe 261 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 9: that's a little high, but let's just let's just say 262 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 9: that considering how the market could change over the course. 263 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: In between I'm sorry, in between somebody, did you have 264 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: somebody mind? Do you have something? 265 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 7: Not? 266 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: Really? 267 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 9: I have him right above Jay R Alexander, right above 268 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 9: aj Trell. I just think that's probably the money you 269 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 9: could earn next offseason. You know, talk about Derek Stingley 270 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 9: getting thirty j C hornetting twenty five. Yeah, if you're 271 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 9: paying him twenty three per year over the course of 272 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 9: let's say four years, the dead money slash cap savings 273 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 9: that you would have by letting go of Trayvon Digs 274 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 9: next off season with a post June one cut you'd 275 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 9: have to be squeezing some pennies in twenty twenty six, 276 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 9: but it would almost be a direct compensation going from 277 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 9: twenty seven to twenty eight. The savings you would have 278 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 9: in twenty seven for letting go of Trayvon digs twenty 279 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 9: and a half million, twenty twenty eight, twenty one million. 280 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 9: So then you would be trying to come up with 281 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 9: two or three million to to, you know, make it 282 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 9: even for Adron Bland situation going forward. But I yeah, 283 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 9: that's that's where things get a little bit tough. But 284 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 9: all three of these guys would still be counting towards 285 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 9: the books in twenty five. Granted Bland still on his 286 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 9: rookie deal. But I truly believe that they have to 287 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 9: figure out how to Paydron Bland before anything. And that includes, Hey, 288 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 9: if Jalen Ramsey makes this too tight or we're gonna 289 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 9: have to do some gymnastic to make it happen, then 290 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 9: I wouldn't make it happen. I think Deron Blands that 291 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 9: important towards the future of this defense. 292 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 7: Here's the other thing I would wonder, and I don't 293 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 7: know if this is possible, but is there a way 294 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 7: to basically rent Jalen Ramsey, so you can take on 295 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 7: the salary for this year and then after this year 296 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 7: move on. I would love that because it gives me 297 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 7: an opportunity to be able to protect myself in the 298 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 7: event Trayvon Diggs's injury lasts deeper into the season. And 299 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 7: if it doesn't and Trayvon's ready to play, great. I 300 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 7: got three corners, and by the way, you need three, 301 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 7: you got three corners. 302 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: You can roll up there. You just slide blam right 303 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: in there into the slot. 304 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 7: And I love those three cornerbacks together at least for 305 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 7: a year. And then going into next year, you move 306 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 7: on from Ramsey. You let him go out and get 307 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 7: his big deal from someone else. So, Brian, when you 308 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 7: said I. 309 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 5: Will cope full of creativity today. 310 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying. 311 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 7: When Brian was like, I wouldn't do it if he 312 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 7: was gonna want the bigger contract, I agree with you, 313 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 7: But I would only do it if he was gonna 314 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: hold out next year. If he agreed to come and 315 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 7: play this year at this amount of money, and then 316 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 7: after that, if you want to go out and search 317 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 7: the market and try to get a better deal, we'll 318 00:13:59,640 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 7: let you do it. 319 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: I'm actually I have to get that assurance though, that 320 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 4: when excuse me, when I trade for you, that you're 321 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: not going to immediately watch this year and say this year, 322 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: wait a minute, I need I need closer to the 323 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: thirty million dollars is the top salary. I need closer. 324 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: I need twenty seven, you know. And I'm like, wait 325 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: a minute, No, you're this and this is what we 326 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: see if you're if you immediately want to come in here, 327 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: and I just a gut feeling I think he would. 328 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: I think he would come in here and he would 329 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: want to be paid like one of the top corners. 330 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: This guy's a very prideful guy. He always has believed 331 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: that he is one of the top corners in this league. 332 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: And he is and he is he is he is. 333 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 4: But at a certain level, you know, you have to 334 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: think about, okay, what's best because you, like we said, 335 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: you've already got a young guy on the on the 336 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: roster that you want to get done. And I applaud 337 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 4: you for bringing up digs. That was one of those 338 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: times where I'm like, going, okay, we're going to talk 339 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: about digs here, you know, And we did, and I 340 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: think that's something that that needs to be discussed when 341 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: you talk about team building and going forward. 342 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think at the end of the day, if 343 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 7: it were all like, if it all could work out 344 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 7: perfectly for the Cowboys, they could have Jalen Ramsey here 345 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 7: for a year and protect themselves with regards to the 346 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,119 Speaker 7: injury to Digs, and then moving forward, your two cornerbacks 347 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 7: are Digs and Bland. I think they're younger. I think 348 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 7: they're both on the com I think they're all they're growing, 349 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 7: and I think they're growing together. And I think if 350 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 7: I could just get to a point where I could 351 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 7: see both of them on the field for seventeen games. 352 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell give me fifteen games. If I could see 353 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: both of them on the field together, you know, Like, 354 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: I think that could be really great for the Cowboys. 355 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: If Carson would have played better, we wouldn't have this discussion. 356 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 4: Fair probably wouldn't be having this discussion if Carson was 357 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: a guy that like when Bland was rookie and then 358 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: played and we're all of a sudden, we're like going, Wow, 359 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: this guy's really getting it. This guy's a good player, 360 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: and then you know, but Carson didn't do that, So 361 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: now we have to have discussions about corners at twelve, 362 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: corners at forty four. You know, we have to have 363 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: these discussions, because you're absolutely right they don't right now. 364 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: They're pretty spot with corner, they really really are, so 365 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 4: to me, yeah, a lot of question mark, a lot 366 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: of question marks there. And you know they probably feel 367 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: better about other positions than they do corner. And that's 368 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: why at twelve I wouldn't I wouldn't say that corner's 369 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: out out not in the picture there. 370 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 7: And I will say this to Bryant from that standpoint, 371 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 7: if the Dallas Cowboys go out and invest the first 372 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 7: round pick in cornerback, I still think the same conversation 373 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 7: comes up because about about Diggs or Bland, like you're 374 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 7: gonna do you if you are? Yeah, are really going 375 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: to great around because if you got a first round pick, 376 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 7: your expectation you want him on the field. 377 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: Put him on the field all the time, right, I agree? 378 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 7: And then that questions like who is the other starter 379 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 7: and who's the person that's left out. It may not 380 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 7: be a problem early on if Diggs is nursing the 381 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 7: injury and coming back from injury, but when he's one 382 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 7: hundred percent healthy, how does that all play out, and 383 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 7: I think that becomes really really interesting. 384 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 385 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 7: You know, you can never have too many corners, don't 386 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 7: get me wrong, but you certainly want that first round 387 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: pick out there. 388 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: He hasn't. The problem with Diggs is he hasn't really 389 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: been healthy the last couple of years. I mean, that's 390 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: that's the real issue here right now. 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See for yourself at LG dot com. 457 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 10: Slashed Evo Welcome Back. 458 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 7: It is the second segment of the Breakway Live from 459 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 7: s WBC Mortgage Studios. 460 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: At the star Let's talk position analysis. 461 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 7: Also the segment brought to you by blockchain dot Com. 462 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 7: All right, so let's talk running back position. This year, 463 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 7: the Cowboys acquired Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders, allow ric 464 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 7: o'dowdell to leave in pre agency. My question for you 465 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 7: guys is, as you look at those two guys, particularly, 466 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 7: which do you think is better if the Cowboys had 467 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 7: to start the season right now and they had what 468 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 7: they had in order to start the season, who do 469 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 7: you think is the starting running back? And then talk 470 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 7: to me about roles and what kind of roles each 471 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 7: one could play. 472 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 8: Talking about Williams and Sanders. 473 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 7: Williams because I assume those are who you would have 474 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 7: as at the top of the deaf it's Davis. 475 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 8: I'm Davis here. 476 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, Joe, I know who it is. 477 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: I about to say, it's going to be that Malik 478 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: Davis is about to get a start in week one. 479 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's start a Hunter Lipkey runing in early. Would 480 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 9: I would start him with Javonte Williams on third. Yeah, 481 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 9: But looking at it from a realistic standpoint in a 482 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 9: modern day offense, Javonte Williams he probably exactly exactly or 483 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 9: Peyton hillis he makes the most sense Javonte Williams as 484 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 9: as the starter with this group right now. But uh, 485 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 9: it's it's no doubt that this is going to be 486 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 9: these guys are going to be competing with a rookie. 487 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 9: But in the spirit of the conversation right now, Javonte 488 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 9: Williams just based on what he did in Denver and 489 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 9: the role that he played there. Uh, and you also 490 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 9: pair that with what Miles Sanders did or did not 491 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 9: do in Carolina. I mean you saw the they basically 492 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 9: they brought in Jonathan Brooks to play over him. And 493 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 9: obviously Brooks hasn't been healthy. But when you start seeing 494 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 9: high premium draft picks around veterans, that's that doesn't speak 495 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 9: a lot of confidence into those veterans. So Javonte Williams 496 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 9: I think would be the starter today and you would 497 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 9: have Miles Sanders kind of rotate in as Javonte needed 498 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 9: to come off the field. I'd be giving him the 499 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 9: majority of the carries. If this was the group that 500 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 9: I needed right now. 501 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where I have a little problem right now. 502 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: I feel like with the coaching staff at the position, 503 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 4: with your coordinator, you got a guy that knows how 504 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: to run the football. You got a line coach that 505 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: is very familiar with the physical style of running the 506 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: football from Kansas State as well. So that's an upgrade 507 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: right there for you to kind of get things going 508 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: the right way. But you let Rico daddle walk, and 509 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: to me that that's not good because where I would 510 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 4: have and Nick maybe can help me here on this one. 511 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: You have Rico daddele here, you can have some flexibility 512 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: to picking a fifth round running back and pair him 513 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: with rico' daddle and you would be fine. Now you 514 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: forced yourself, I believe, to have to take a running 515 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: back within the first three picks, because you really don't. 516 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 6: Now. 517 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: The thing with Williams is he catches the ball very well, 518 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: and he blocks very well, and he's coming. You know, 519 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 4: Sean Payton knows how to use running backs and he 520 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: just didn't have you know, but Sewan's going to look 521 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: for running back. Watch at twenty at Denver, they're going 522 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: to get a running back because Sean knows he needs one. 523 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 4: But they moved on. And and you know, nothing against 524 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: Smiles Sanders either, but I think his time is done too. 525 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: If you had Rico daddle and this is I'm sorry, 526 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna bring it up. If you had rico' daddle, 527 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: you could make you could pick one of a running 528 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: back in the fifth round and pair it with him 529 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 4: and you'd be just fine. 530 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: So you'd think you'd think ric o'daddle is better at 531 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: this point. 532 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: Yes, Williams, Yes, I do it. Yeah, I do and 533 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: if you had to start it, and we've seen it 534 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: with their own eyes, you know, once they once they 535 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 4: started handing him the ball and they made the change 536 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: at right guard, they were healthier there at right guard. 537 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: Steele started playing better, BB was getting better at second 538 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: level blocks. The right guard situation was that they did 539 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: some combination stuff, got some things going there. But rico' 540 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: daddell here, he if if he was here, you could 541 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: wait to the fifth round and grab a running back. 542 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: But now I think you have to have to grab 543 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 4: one of these running backs in the first three rounds. 544 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: I don't think you can wait to the fifth round 545 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 4: and say, Okay, let's get a fifth round back and 546 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: let's pair him with Williams and Sanderson, see how it goes. 547 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 7: Let me ask you this because I was I was 548 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 7: actually having this conversation with Isaiah stand back yesterday and 549 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 7: we were talking about the running back position. I think 550 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 7: we all, everybody at this table, and a lot of 551 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 7: people I have talked to in the media all agree 552 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 7: that the Cowboys got made themselves better by the coaches 553 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 7: a Brant. I think you look at the Arizona Cardinals 554 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 7: and what they've been able to do the last couple 555 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 7: of years in the running game, and I look at 556 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 7: that and I'm like, they didn't have an all pro 557 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 7: caliber running back. In my opinion, James Connor was hurt 558 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 7: for part of the tign But James Connor to me 559 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 7: as a solid running back, I don't put him as 560 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: one of the best running backs in the league. They 561 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 7: were able to create and manufacture a top one of 562 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 7: the top one of the better running games in the 563 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 7: NFL with solid running backs, solid offensive line. But the 564 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 7: scheme had a lot to do with It reminds me 565 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 7: a lot of and you'll appreciate this Brian, those old 566 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 7: school Brian Broncos with Mike Shanahan where they ran in 567 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: Reuben Drones whoever they ran in every year, that guy 568 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 7: was gonna put up a bunch of yards on the 569 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: ground because the scheme was just so good and they 570 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 7: had they had the ability to be able to put 571 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 7: the offensive line in the right positions to make the blocks, 572 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 7: and the all they need is a back that could 573 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: hit the hole where it needed to hit it and 574 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 7: go downhill. And so my question is, from that standpoint, 575 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 7: do you really need to get a running back early 576 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 7: in order to get some or do you need to 577 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 7: just get someone that has the right traits or that 578 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 7: runs the ball the right way for this scheme and 579 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 7: they can be just as effective here as you know 580 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 7: a top running back would be in another system. 581 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think that's a fascinating question when you 582 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 9: look at this draft class, right because you you could 583 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 9: theoretically wait until day three and. 584 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 8: You'd be taking some chances. Don't get me wrong. 585 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you could find a guy with the right 586 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 9: trades to pair with Javonte Williams that I think could 587 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 9: work for this offense. You just see a guy that 588 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 9: can get you yards on early downs. That's it's really 589 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 9: as simple as that. You would love to have a 590 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 9: guy that has a little bit more and could be 591 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 9: very and can be that guy whenever you move on 592 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 9: from Javonte Williams. But if you're talking about twenty twenty 593 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 9: five specifically the immediate urgent need, you just need a 594 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 9: guy that can get you yards on early downs that 595 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 9: when the game starts, when that first drive comes out, 596 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 9: you can rely on him to get five six yards 597 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 9: and start drives with some momentum. I just feel like 598 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 9: they haven't had that at times. And Rico Daudle Yes, 599 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 9: he played well down the stretch last year, but it 600 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 9: felt like every time he was given the ball to 601 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 9: start a drive when everyone in the building knows that 602 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 9: they're handing it off, he couldn't get those four or 603 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 9: five yards. I need a guy when everybody in the 604 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 9: stadium knows, hey, they're gonna haven the ball off right here, 605 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 9: that he can go get four or five. And I 606 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 9: think you can get that guy in the third round. 607 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 9: I think you can get that guy in the fifth. 608 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 9: You'd be taking some chances, like I said, but I 609 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 9: don't think it's necessarily a need to go get the 610 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 9: number one back in the class if he's not there for. 611 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: You, Nick, I'm gonna ask you this question. I don't 612 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: mean to turn it into a draft show, but the 613 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: thing about it is, do you have fourth round running 614 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: backs that you think are going to fall to the fifth? 615 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 7: Uh? 616 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 9: I look at a Kyle mcnung gai out of Rutgers. 617 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 9: That's a guy who could play on early downs, zero 618 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 9: fumbles and six hundred sixty nine carries too. 619 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 8: Look that Ollie Gordon. 620 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 9: I wonder how many people factor in his off the 621 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 9: field things and if he slips to the fifth talked 622 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 9: about my guy Land Larson at UC Davis. I think 623 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 9: he could probably be there in the fifth. 624 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 7: Those are st quick on Oli Gordon. Yeah, you said 625 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 7: all the field stuff. Is it more mental stuff or 626 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 7: is it like trouble you don't have to get. 627 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 9: To DJ Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a DUI in 628 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 9: twenty four. That was that was a public knowledge. The 629 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 9: leg he had a legac thank you. He had a 630 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 9: leg injury mid season last year. And granted he was 631 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 9: a Doke Walker Award winner in twenty twenty three for 632 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 9: the nation's top running back in college. 633 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 8: I mean there was a point when. 634 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 7: He had got there that guy was gonna be the 635 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: next coming from standpoint of guys coming into the NFL. 636 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 9: If he came into the draft class last year, he 637 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 9: would have been the number one back. Take and no 638 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 9: questions asked. But this guy this year, this past year, 639 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 9: really bad offensive line in Oklahoma State. He couldn't really 640 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 9: maneuver around it, didn't show a lot of contact balance 641 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 9: even though he's six foot two two twenty five. So 642 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 9: I wonder how many how much teams will value this 643 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 9: twenty four season compared to the twenty three year. But 644 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 9: you could get a guy if he channels what he 645 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 9: had in twenty three. Shoot, you're gonna have a pretty 646 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 9: good product on your hands. So Jarquois Hunter is another 647 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 9: guy that I have a fourth round grade on that 648 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 9: maybe could slip to the fifth. 649 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 8: It's just it just based on so you're really you. 650 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: Are gambling a little bit there though right on undred percent. 651 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you know it goes yeah, but if 652 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 8: you wait till anything, That's. 653 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: What I'm saying. I'm just worried though, that we're gonna 654 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: sit there in the fourth round and we're do in 655 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: the draft show and we're covering it, and then we'll 656 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 4: talk about all of a sudden in day three, those 657 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: backs just start, and I think there's gonna be a 658 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 4: run on backs and potentially in the third round as well. 659 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: So we can see the run and then we'll maybe 660 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 4: see another run. And I wonder if if there's some guys, 661 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 4: if you if you told me with certainty and you 662 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: do a great job with the draft, Nick, if you 663 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: told me, hey, there's gonna be some fourth round guys 664 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: that are gonna be there in the fifth, then I 665 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: then I then I'll I'll go with you. But I'm 666 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: trying to I've kind of broke this thing down just 667 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: for simplicity, is the very good and the good. You 668 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, if you give me a chance 669 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: to draft DF very good, I'm going to draft very 670 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: good because I know good is good is good, but 671 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: very good might be the difference. You know, some of 672 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: these lines you talk about, you know, with the with 673 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: the Cardinals, their quarterback was a part of some of 674 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: the stuff, I mean, the threat of him running, and 675 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: you don't have that here. So people will be able 676 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: to say, Okay, can the offensive line in its current 677 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: configuration be good enough to be like with Arizona? 678 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 679 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: Possibly? Can the tiight ends block? Sure? You know that's 680 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 4: all possibly to the coaching, because we know the coaching 681 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: and stuff will be better. But the thing, like I said, 682 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: if you gave me an opportunity to draft very good 683 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: as opposed to good, I think that makes a difference. 684 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: I think backs do make a difference. That's why to me, 685 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: Ashton Genty when people are talking about why would you 686 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: take Ashton Genty? Because Ashton Genty makes your offensive line better. 687 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: His ability to make people miss make your offensive line better. 688 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: That's why if you have a guy that has that 689 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: kind of ability you know Harvey from Central floor. You 690 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: get a guy a draft like that, and all of 691 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: a sudden, he's making people miss your offensive lines better 692 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: because they don't always have to hold their blocks for 693 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: an extra count. They got backs that can make people 694 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: miss and get yards. Give me that. That's what I 695 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: wanted to back. 696 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna go ahead to break, Go ahead, 697 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wake. 698 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 10: No. 699 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: I would prefer here with you. 700 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: Take it to break. 701 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: All right, We're gonna take a break and come back 702 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 7: to the break. We're gonna go to Amber Garcia and 703 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 7: she's gonna have this great point for us, and with 704 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: our conversation, got time about the running back position. 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But you said something. Nick looked at me, 770 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 10: We locked eyes and I just laughed. Okay, So that 771 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 10: was that, all right? 772 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Before we went to break Amber had a point she 773 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: wanted to make. 774 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: That was your point? 775 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: Now, she mo, right, what did you make your point? 776 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, I'm gonna take my time. 777 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, we got what good a minutes? 778 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 9: So for it? 779 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 10: Good good, good, because I'm gonna try to verbalize what 780 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 10: was going through my head so as you. 781 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 5: Insight. 782 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 8: Sorry inside joke. 783 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 10: Okay, while you guys were talking, I just kept going 784 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 10: back and forth on Okay, how big of a necessity 785 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 10: is it really for the cowboys to go get a 786 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 10: very dynamic running back, and I'm going back and forth 787 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 10: in what I've seen in history with the Dallas Cowboys, 788 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 10: and I'm thinking, okay. 789 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: And I started running around when Zeke was drafted. 790 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 10: At the time I did. I wasn't like crazy. I 791 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 10: know some people were choosing Zeke and they were looking 792 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 10: at him. 793 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: At the time. I was more focused on the defense 794 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 5: and a corner. 795 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 10: So then Zeke comes in and then you see the 796 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 10: fact that he had and the explosiveness and how everything. 797 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: Was just crazy and magical. 798 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 10: But you have to take into account how the offensive 799 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 10: line looked at the time, how great that line was. 800 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 10: And then I started going back, Okay, how did those 801 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 10: other guys that weren't like Zeke caliber look like with 802 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 10: such a good offensive line? And I went back to 803 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 10: think about Alfred Morris, you had Rod Smith, and I remember, 804 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 10: I don't have a clear memory, but I remember at 805 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 10: the time they were very efficient, not to the Zeke level, 806 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 10: but they were still productive and taking care of business. 807 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 10: Even when Darren McFadden he went in, when Romo went 808 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 10: in for that last series of his career here with 809 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 10: the Cowboys and in the NFL, and he was very effective. 810 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 10: They went down, they drove that thing down so easy, 811 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 10: got into the end zone. So again that leads me 812 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 10: back to thinking, Okay, necessity and priority number one solidifying 813 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 10: the offensive line, making sure we all know that's where 814 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 10: it all starts, and focus and number one problem here 815 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 10: is making sure you have that you won't give the 816 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 10: protection to Dak, but also it just makes the running 817 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 10: backs job easier. Now, with that being said, I feel 818 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 10: like you solidify that and you can still be productive 819 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 10: with the guys. Back to your original question, Derek, you 820 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 10: can still I feel like, be productive with the guys 821 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 10: you currently have. But back to Brian's point, how much 822 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 10: of that next level are you willing to take it? 823 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 10: And how much are you willing to invest that? And 824 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 10: we saw even last year when you don't have a 825 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 10: running game, and the running game took a while to 826 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 10: get going with. 827 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god, well they took a while to get 828 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: him going. 829 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 10: Yes, with the scheme and everything, but taken into account 830 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 10: everything that you guys said, the new coaching staff and 831 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 10: everything that they're trying to change up here, and really 832 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 10: they've been very vocal about putting an effort and being 833 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 10: intentional with the running game. So I think that's going 834 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 10: to be a main focus point for this offense and 835 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 10: a big priority there. So I think taking all of 836 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 10: that into account, it just I just keep going back 837 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,959 Speaker 10: and forth of Okay, what's the right at. 838 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 4: What point plan of attack? 839 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, but for the draft specifically, at what point do 840 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 10: you really want to invest into. 841 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 5: A running back? 842 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 10: And I mean I hate hearing what Nick says because 843 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 10: then I feel like, Okay, you're making me think we 844 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 10: can wait till day three. 845 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 5: But then that does make me nervous. 846 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 8: It makes everyone nervous. 847 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 10: But it's good to know that there is depth options, 848 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 10: so many options out there. But I think again, priority 849 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 10: number one offensive line. 850 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, the way I look at that, and I agree 851 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 7: with a lot of what you say there, Abro. I 852 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 7: will say this though, if let's say, for example, in 853 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 7: the first round, Dallas gets wide receiver. 854 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: Let's say they get Teed or Golden, either one. 855 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 7: Let's say they pick up in the second or third round, 856 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 7: they pick up an offensive lineman in a cornerback. All right, 857 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 7: if they come away from days one and two with 858 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 7: those things, I feel a lot better about the idea 859 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 7: of getting even though you're taking a gamble getting a 860 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 7: running back. 861 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: Let's say in the fifth round. 862 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 7: The reason why is because I think at that point 863 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 7: you will have an offense that has hopefully, hopefully or 864 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 7: at least what you hope, what you're thinking, your offensive 865 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 7: line will be somewhat solidified. You feel good about where 866 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 7: you're going with your offensive line. You have the new 867 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 7: offensive coaches who are going to focus on that offensive 868 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 7: of that run game. You have now a second wide receiver, 869 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 7: which they've been really needing here for quite a while, 870 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 7: and you've sewn up what you what you needed to 871 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 7: take care of a cornerback. Those, in my opinion, are 872 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 7: your three biggest areas of need. And I think running 873 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 7: back you can manage those other positions. I don't know 874 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 7: that you can manage those positions if you don't come 875 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 7: away from the draft with people that can come in 876 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 7: and immediately contribute. I think running back you it won't 877 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 7: be optimal. I get your point, Bright, it won't be optimal, 878 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 7: But I think you can manage with those other things 879 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 7: you've done. I think you can manage to have your 880 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 7: running back be take a little more chance on your 881 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 7: running back than you can on those other positions. 882 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: What do you guys think? 883 00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's fair. 884 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 9: It's if I could sounds like you want to pick 885 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 9: offensive line at twelve. 886 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 8: Mbar im Okay, all right. 887 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 2: That's all about value though. My question for you guys, 888 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 2: y'all study the players. 889 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 7: Is there somebody projected to be there at twelve that's 890 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 7: worth that pick and is better, by the way, better 891 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 7: than the receivers that everybody's talking about, because quite frankly, 892 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 7: I look at that and I say, if I can 893 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 7: get that caliber receiver at twelve, unless you're gonna tell 894 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 7: me this offensive lineman to somebody that immediately walks in, 895 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 7: he is a Zach Zach Martin. 896 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: He's walking in. 897 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 7: He's going to be your starter at guard or tackle 898 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 7: for the next I don't know, eight to ten years. 899 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 2: They're great. Let's let's let's have that conversation. 900 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 10: Has been great when drafting offensive lineman in that first round. 901 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 10: So I know that they know how to evaluate evaluate 902 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 10: these players when it comes to the line on offense. 903 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 4: And I think that. 904 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 10: Again, I know Nick has said before that he thinks 905 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 10: is gonna get back into being more mobile. 906 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 8: Potentially, that's just his intention. That's just his intention. 907 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 5: Okay, ye, his. 908 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 10: Intention is to be back more to be mobile. Again, 909 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 10: I don't know how much I believe in that until 910 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 10: I see it. So I think there is even not 911 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 10: just the running game, but also Dak's game in general. 912 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 10: I think there is just a bigger necessity in making 913 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 10: sure you have someone that's very, very solid. Now, I 914 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 10: don't do the draft show like you guys do, so 915 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 10: you know better where that level of talent fits best. 916 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 5: Depending on the rounds, I. 917 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 9: Only have Teed McMillan is the only receiver that I 918 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 9: have above the first line or first round offensive lineman, 919 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 9: and those first round offensive linemen armand Membu out of Missouri, 920 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 9: will camp Out Lsu Kevin Banks out of Texas. So 921 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 9: those three guys, I. 922 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: Mean you would you stretch and do either one of 923 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: them pick out of one of them? At twelve? 924 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 9: It worth different Millin is there no no, But based 925 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 9: on my if I'm sticking to my board, I would 926 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 9: be going with an offensive lineman because Membo I think 927 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 9: he would have some right guard flexibility. 928 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 8: Will Campbell. 929 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 9: It would be Will Campbell and Ketwen Banks. They played 930 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 9: on the left side, but you would have to kind 931 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 9: of maneuver them and make them a little bit more 932 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 9: comfortable on the right side at guard. But I don't know, 933 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 9: it's you would definitely have to move some things around 934 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 9: and it would be a little difficult. You just drafted 935 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 9: a left tackle in the first round last year, so 936 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 9: are you giving up on that if you draft a 937 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 9: first round offensive lineman and it's just there'd be a 938 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 9: lot of questions you'd have to ask about it. But 939 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 9: I mean they have put in resources with thirty visits 940 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 9: and formal meetings of the combine in evaluating these first 941 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 9: round offensive linemen armand Membu is one of those guys, 942 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 9: so you have to factor that in as well. 943 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's if it's I have Josh Simmons from Ohio 944 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 4: State is one of my best offensive linemen and and 945 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 4: he is the only guy that I have above McMillan 946 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 4: on my stack. So to me, that's where Campbell's right 947 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 4: there for me. Membu's right there for me as well. 948 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 4: I have Banks a little bit later, you know, twenty 949 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 4: one on my stack. So I'm kind of I would 950 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 4: be committed to the first three names of Simmons, Campbell 951 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 4: or Mimbo, you know, over McMillan. I I'll tell you what. 952 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 4: The thing with Golden, The thing with Golden at wide 953 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 4: receiver just makes so much sense for me right now. 954 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: It really really does. But you know, but if if 955 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 4: you told me that, hey, one of those, don't I 956 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 4: said this, I don't think you can wipe me out 957 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: at twelve, right, Well don't. And somebody tried to wipe 958 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 4: me out the other day by taking the backs and 959 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 4: taking the wide receivers out of it in a mock draft. 960 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 4: And then I just picked Memboo and I just and 961 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 4: I moved on, and I'm like, you know, you can't. 962 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 4: You cannot wipe this team out at twelve. I don't 963 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 4: believe so to me. And to Amber's point, that to 964 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 4: me would be the one he said if you said 965 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 4: a kind of a surprise position to take, I think 966 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 4: offensive line tight end would be the most surprising to 967 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 4: me in the first but then offensive tackle would probably 968 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 4: be the next most surprising group to me. Oor safety, Uh, 969 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 4: I think safety is you know, I don't know if 970 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: they would take somebody at twelve. That's That's what I'm saying. Yea, yeah, 971 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 4: at twelve. I but tight end, Yeah, you could throw 972 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 4: safety in there. But I kind of feel like, though 973 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 4: to me, the fact that they visited one, I think 974 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 4: they visited us more of a second round one of 975 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 4: the names that we had. But you can't wipe this 976 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 4: team out with the draft because or with an order 977 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 4: of guys going off the board ahead of them, they 978 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 4: they'll have somebody that they can fall back on, and 979 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 4: like I say, a guy like Membo, I'd have absolutely 980 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 4: no problem with that one. 981 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 7: All right, that's a wrap for us. We will be 982 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 7: back next week. Actually next next Wednesday will be on 983 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 7: and on Thursday the draft begins. So next week we'll 984 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 7: talk a little bit more about draft, talk about who 985 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 7: you guys really want to see or expect the Cowboys 986 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 7: to select with that number one overall pick. 987 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 4: Brian, Can I give you a homework assignment for next week? Sure? Question. 988 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 4: I want to ask you guys, could the receiver you 989 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 4: draft potentially at twelve be better than ce d Lamb? 990 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 4: You're trying to get messy, No, I'm not, just could 991 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 4: the receiver you drafted well eventually be better than all Right, 992 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 4: we'll think about we'll. 993 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: Talk about that. We'll talk about that when we come back. 994 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 7: We'll be back next week on Wednesday, same time till 995 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 7: then for Nick Harris, Brian brod Us to Namagarci. I'm 996 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 7: Derek Eagleton. 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