Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome into Talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the s WBC Mortgage studio. We're moving on
Speaker 1: week two. Cowboys, Giants, Cowboys getting back to work here
Speaker 1: out at the Star in Frisco. Today. Jason Garrett will
Speaker 1: address the media at ten thirty five ish Central Time,
Speaker 1: but before that, got an hour to talk about anything Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We can we can put our final touches on Carolina,
Speaker 1: but we're definitely gonna move forward. Oh, I've moved forward
Speaker 1: on this one to the Giants, and you've been watching
Speaker 1: tape and you're gonna have i think your first batch
Speaker 1: of analysis on the site today. Nemesis, the Nemesis, the
Speaker 1: weapon and the under the radar guys, So hopefully you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to check that out again. Had an
Speaker 1: oportunity to sit down and watch the Giants some of
Speaker 1: the preseason, also watched them play Jacksonville in this past weekend.
Speaker 1: So some uh, some interesting takes with UH with the
Speaker 1: new uh new head coach with Pat Schermer and what
Speaker 1: and what this How this Giant team looks a lot
Speaker 1: different from what the Giants teams we've seen in the past.
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones for now. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he gets back in here. It's his TV taping
Speaker 1: day just down the hall, so we'll see what we got. Mickey,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola in studio almost on time, almost on time.
Speaker 1: If they wouldn't have talked five minutes about some high
Speaker 1: school coach they got fired, I probably would have been
Speaker 1: right on time. Oh why was that discussion. It was
Speaker 1: a story that some kids spiked the water at practice
Speaker 1: with and he didn't report the kids. Oh so he
Speaker 1: was trying to do the kids a favor. Huh. He
Speaker 1: was probably probably trying to cover himself also, And then
Speaker 1: they dug up other stuff on him and they fired
Speaker 1: the guy. I had to get your take on that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so no they didn't, but I had to wait five
Speaker 1: minutes until they finished with it. Evidently he the spike
Speaker 1: of choice in the water was some sort of male
Speaker 1: enhancement interesting something or other. Again, that's a big that's
Speaker 1: a big yeah. Yeah kids these days. Yeah, I never
Speaker 1: heard of that one. That's a new one. What brownies?
Speaker 1: Was it? No? Not at all. Hey, are you moved
Speaker 1: on or you moved on to New York? Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1: Are we off a Carolina? Yeah, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: you can't. As Brian said, all the low hanging fruit
Speaker 1: has been picked already, So yeah, it's time to move forward. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like the mail back questions haven't ended in
Speaker 1: terms of, hey, let's replace this coach, that coach, this
Speaker 1: play caller. Look, it's one game in and obviously I've
Speaker 1: said it two times this week. There are trouble signs
Speaker 1: that date back to last season. Sure, but I mean
Speaker 1: I went through it again and I looked at the
Speaker 1: place who played in the game. You had ten new
Speaker 1: players offensively, five new starters. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: missed time in preseason. I'm just not ready to panic,
Speaker 1: and that's what Cole Beasley said in the locker room yesterday.
Speaker 1: But obviously they've got to get something going offensively, and
Speaker 1: they've got to do it quickly. And this won't be
Speaker 1: an easy challenging. No, it won't be. It won't be
Speaker 1: at all. And you know I think that to me,
Speaker 1: I always try and figure out why. That's my first
Speaker 1: thing if you have problems, figure out why something happened.
Speaker 1: And you know I talked about the low hanging fruit
Speaker 1: and all that. It's really easy to see say play
Speaker 1: call in this and that, but you got to really
Speaker 1: dive in. You got to dive into why they didn't.
Speaker 1: They've they've struggled, you know, and and Mickey's talked about
Speaker 1: this before. Up until a certain point of last year,
Speaker 1: you know, the Atlanta game basically, or after the Kansas
Speaker 1: City game, this team was doing a pretty good job offensively.
Speaker 1: They were you know, they were uh, they were they
Speaker 1: were doing things. They were moving the football, they were
Speaker 1: running the football. Dak Prescott was making plays. They were
Speaker 1: putting up points. You know, they were having some success.
Speaker 1: They lost a couple of games they probably shouldn't have lost,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay game and the Giants game or the
Speaker 1: US give me the Rams games. Yeah, it's a couple
Speaker 1: of games they shouldn't lost. But you know, you need
Speaker 1: you know, coaches tend to go back and say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: what what is successful for us, what have we had,
Speaker 1: what has worked? What you know, what combinations? You know,
Speaker 1: you go back, you always self study, you always self evaluate. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, people will say, well, they're missing does they're
Speaker 1: missing you know, Witten and all. But you know, you've
Speaker 1: got to push on the guys you had. You made
Speaker 1: him mention, They've they've got a lot of new guys.
Speaker 1: They got a lot of new coaches too, at certain positions.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just felt like though that it
Speaker 1: it might have seemed like a total collapse on the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: and there might be some issues with what was going
Speaker 1: on scheme wise, as far as upfront and some of
Speaker 1: the blocking stuff they had to do with some of
Speaker 1: the personnel. But they had receivers that got open. They
Speaker 1: just sent a quarterback that just didn't throw to the
Speaker 1: open receiver. You know, if you if you scheme and
Speaker 1: design plays in order for them to work. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the whole idea is for them to work. But
Speaker 1: you have to have the execution of the players to
Speaker 1: do it. And I'm not putting it all on Dak
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, because everybody had a turn at
Speaker 1: this one. But they've got to figure this out. The Giants.
Speaker 1: As you said, Rob, this is not going to be
Speaker 1: an easy game for them. Defensively, They're going to have
Speaker 1: to do some things that they're gonna have to move
Speaker 1: this giant front, and I mean move them in a
Speaker 1: way of misdirections, play actions, anything, waggles, boot screens. You've
Speaker 1: got to get these guys to play on the move
Speaker 1: because this secondary is better than what you played against Carolina.
Speaker 1: Now the test will be, Okay, can you run the
Speaker 1: ball and maybe not have as many receivers get open.
Speaker 1: You know that's going to be the real test because
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they revert back to some of
Speaker 1: the things that they did last week against Carolina, they'll
Speaker 1: lose this game too. They won't move the ball, they'll
Speaker 1: look bad. So they better figure out some things very quickly. Here.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville had and with their limited offense early in that
Speaker 1: game when Fournette was on the field, they had the
Speaker 1: Giants defense on the run. Yeah, but they were moving,
Speaker 1: they were getting to the outside. They weren't trying to
Speaker 1: just run right up the middle right. They were spreading
Speaker 1: them out, getting a lot of kind of horizontal plays
Speaker 1: to get vertical and it was working until Fournette got hurt,
Speaker 1: so uh, a lot of pulling, making those big old
Speaker 1: guys in the middle have to run yep, make them
Speaker 1: run latterly yep. And so they were they were, they
Speaker 1: were moving the football until four Nette got hurt and
Speaker 1: then things kind of bogged down. Um, but offensively, look,
Speaker 1: I was I was kind of charting the game and
Speaker 1: it was the first quarter and I got to write
Speaker 1: here and I wrote down Giants old line in Hale's there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, they were terrible. That's a big problem for them.
Speaker 1: It still is. That would be that would be something
Speaker 1: that our buddies at the Giants dot Com when they
Speaker 1: do a show very similar arts, they will they will
Speaker 1: talk about the matchup problems that they have with the
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys defensive line, and I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: starters and the backups, which, by the way, we'll get
Speaker 1: our buddy on either Thursday or Friday, John schmel and
Speaker 1: he wrote about the line earlier this year. Really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but they they will talk about the problems that
Speaker 1: they have. You know, this will be one of these
Speaker 1: games where Okay, who offensively can do some of the
Speaker 1: things that Mickey's talk function. Yeah, I mean I it's
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a lot of questions on I
Speaker 1: think the best way to attack the Giants is move them.
Speaker 1: I think that's there there There could be in a
Speaker 1: very aggressive they are a three four front, this is
Speaker 1: new for them, but they could be very aggressive at linebacker.
Speaker 1: You could see and Mickey's right, you could see the
Speaker 1: play action stuff that they were doing with with Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: and it was affecting the way that the Giants were attacking.
Speaker 1: They step up and attack the line, so you you
Speaker 1: you've got to take advantage of them stepping up and
Speaker 1: then the ability to get some guys open. But I
Speaker 1: will say this again, Carolina's secondary is not as good
Speaker 1: as the Giants secondary is. And that and now now
Speaker 1: it turns into Okay, you won at Caroline. You had
Speaker 1: some guys win at Carolina. Can you have receivers win
Speaker 1: against these Giants corners? That's where this is game's gonna
Speaker 1: f and that And I thought the key thing with
Speaker 1: their defense playing better was Eli Apple seemed to be engaged,
Speaker 1: played better. Yes, he played a really good game, which
Speaker 1: you know previously It's like you never knew what universe
Speaker 1: he was on. Uh, he seemed to be locked in.
Speaker 1: He was, and they played without Olivier Vernon in this
Speaker 1: game though, and I think they'll continue. And it didn't
Speaker 1: look like he's going to be bad. It sounds like
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be bad. So what that means is
Speaker 1: that they have to turn around now and use use veteran.
Speaker 1: They had a veteran guy who is my guy, Connor
Speaker 1: Barwin is who has to play for him in that spot.
Speaker 1: And Connor Barwin is not as good as player as
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, and it's he didn't really emerge. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear his name think till maybe the fourth quarter. He's
Speaker 1: a very much a jump on the pile guy. Now
Speaker 1: he's a run rule fast and get over there and
Speaker 1: jump on the pile guy. Yeah, so they've got they've
Speaker 1: got some like we say, I'll write about, you know,
Speaker 1: with Damien Harrison today, write about him. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: things they're going to have to deal with with this front.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's good A pass rushing front is
Speaker 1: what we saw in Carolina. Well, how do you think
Speaker 1: the scheme change affects things? Because we're used to the
Speaker 1: Giants being a four three team. They got a new DC.
Speaker 1: I believe it's it's James bet Betcher is that he
Speaker 1: pronounced it. He's he's highly regarded around the league. He's
Speaker 1: installed a three four front right Vernon when he's health
Speaker 1: he's going to be an outside rushing linebacker. That's true
Speaker 1: for them, yep. And it plays the will is the will.
Speaker 1: Barrow's in that spot now, So how how do you
Speaker 1: think it affects the way they rushed the passer? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about the three four is when
Speaker 1: Wade was here, you don't know where they don't have
Speaker 1: coming from. They don't have that dynamic guy they you know,
Speaker 1: when the Giants were winning super Bowls, Well, they've won
Speaker 1: super Bowls in the two thousands. I shouldn't say that,
Speaker 1: but but they were a team that that always had
Speaker 1: a when the three four with parcels always had a
Speaker 1: guy like a Lawrence Taylor and those kinds of guys.
Speaker 1: But they don't have now without without Olivier Vernon there,
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a that's problem. That's a problem
Speaker 1: for them because they don't have that guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got a couple of guys. They have this young
Speaker 1: guy carry Woods. It's number seventy two. It's gonna Carrie
Speaker 1: win seventy two. He's not a bad player for them,
Speaker 1: uh you know, uh they this Kareem Martin number ninety
Speaker 1: six is a guy that kind of can can rush
Speaker 1: a little bit, but they don't have somebody that you're
Speaker 1: kind of just going, oh, you've got to take him
Speaker 1: out of the game. You know, you've got to deal
Speaker 1: with him without Vernon in there. That that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a struggle for them, and that's why their secondary has
Speaker 1: to play as well as they do because they don't
Speaker 1: have the pass rush that that they go. You know,
Speaker 1: and they may be in a three four, but as
Speaker 1: soon as you go three wide, it's a fourth two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's fair. Yeah, and Nickel defense, you want to
Speaker 1: try and spread him out. You know, I thought the
Speaker 1: Cowboys ran the ball much better when they spread out
Speaker 1: Carolina with three wide or four wide and try to
Speaker 1: hand the ball off. So we'll Mickey if they make that.
Speaker 1: Mickey's as right though, You're just not gonna run the
Speaker 1: ball in the teeth of this defense and expect to
Speaker 1: move Harrison out of there. It reminds you of this
Speaker 1: matchup for last week. Yeah, you just don't mean that's
Speaker 1: just not going to be conducive to what they want
Speaker 1: to do. Tomlinson's a big tackle too, yes side, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna what you're gonna do is you're
Speaker 1: gonna down, down and around guys. And I mean down,
Speaker 1: down and around is angle blocks some guys, get some
Speaker 1: guys on the outside, make these giant cornerbacks and safeties.
Speaker 1: Now that that landing Collins is a hell of a player,
Speaker 1: and they've also got a nice young player, a guy
Speaker 1: that got from Tennessee named Curtis Riley. That's a safety
Speaker 1: number thirty five. He's a very aggressive player. But all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get these guys to have to
Speaker 1: keep coming down, keep coming down, keep coming down on
Speaker 1: the edge, to have to defend the run. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna get the shots behind. Now you'll maybe see the
Speaker 1: ball go down the field. You know, people were asking me, hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: you know, we we've talked about this all along, we
Speaker 1: all training camp. What do we see deep pass? Deep?
Speaker 1: Pass deep? We talked about it to the point where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is something they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do to back him up. But now the deep pass
Speaker 1: comes off a play action pass. So if you can
Speaker 1: kind of get the running game going and you're not
Speaker 1: in second and twenty one and third and seventeen and
Speaker 1: all those kind of ridiculous downs and you can and
Speaker 1: stay ahead. I do think you're going to see more
Speaker 1: read option this week. I think you're going to see
Speaker 1: dek Press Gott do some more things with his legs
Speaker 1: this week. Where he's comfortable, it's where he's comfortable, it's
Speaker 1: where he's moving around. They've got to get him back
Speaker 1: in the rhythm of him playing in the game and
Speaker 1: not just standing there and trying to read what's going on.
Speaker 1: Get him to flow in the game. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It means also not being in second and twenty one.
Speaker 1: You get a holding call, Lyle Collins get a holding call.
Speaker 1: It's it's a guaranteed disaster for this offense. We've all
Speaker 1: we've all understand. You go back and watch the game
Speaker 1: from Sunday and that those first four drives and it's
Speaker 1: like they didn't give themselves a chance. No, it was
Speaker 1: like it forfeited the possession. No chance, first first possession.
Speaker 1: You're sitting there third and twenty six. Yeah, seriously, all
Speaker 1: the play right, give me it, which one works? Did
Speaker 1: I go deep? You know? And it wasn't like third
Speaker 1: and twenty six at the thirty yard line. It's third
Speaker 1: and twenty six at the ten, right, and you can't
Speaker 1: afford to make a mistake. Now, all you're gonna do
Speaker 1: is dump the ball off and punt and hope your
Speaker 1: defense plays well. I hope your punter kicks a fifty
Speaker 1: yards every time, which he too. He might have been
Speaker 1: the player of the game defensively. Defensively though, they did
Speaker 1: a good job against Caroline. I mean, it'll be Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about I'm sure we'll get into the Giant's
Speaker 1: offense a little bit more tomorrow and what needs to
Speaker 1: be done there. But there's some things they're going to
Speaker 1: have to deal with and they're capable of. They've got
Speaker 1: the personnel to match up with the Giants pretty well.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things we talked about with
Speaker 1: this offensive line, it might not have been the strongest
Speaker 1: offensive line without Travis in there and with Connor Williams starting,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty agile. It was mobile, they could
Speaker 1: move and saw that much. Yeah, we saw that. That's
Speaker 1: that's surprising. I mean, and We've also seen him use
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin quite a bit. You know, the one screen,
Speaker 1: I think there's one. I think this is one of
Speaker 1: those things that if this staff and I know people
Speaker 1: out there right now are laughing at me for saying this,
Speaker 1: but if the staff is really going to self evaluate
Speaker 1: what they did in week one, they need to go
Speaker 1: back and think about, Okay, what did we want to do?
Speaker 1: What what do we want to do going in this
Speaker 1: game before it was second and twenty one and third
Speaker 1: and seventeen? Do we want to get the ball more
Speaker 1: to Tavon Austin? Do we? You know? I think I
Speaker 1: think if you want to look at a real positive,
Speaker 1: was the ball to Cole Beasley. I hope they continue
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Cole Beasley. That to me
Speaker 1: is a great option. He looks by far, he looks
Speaker 1: the most comfortable playing with Dak Prescott. He's it's like
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott understands where he's going to be. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that. And here again, the fans out there
Speaker 1: are probably saying, well, brought us. They didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time in the preseason. Well, they worked a
Speaker 1: lot in the you know, we watched twenty five thirty
Speaker 1: practices where they they were working every day with receiver
Speaker 1: routes and where they needed to be and stuff, and
Speaker 1: Cole was his guy two years ago seventy shive catches,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I don't worry about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Cole said yesterday they had one miscommunication on row.
Speaker 1: But if you want to call a number one receiver
Speaker 1: on this team, label one guy, I think it's Beasley.
Speaker 1: Now he's not your traditional guy because you're gonna move
Speaker 1: him around and he's gonna primarily probably play in the slot.
Speaker 1: But this this might be a game where it's best
Speaker 1: to play with more wide receivers than tight ends. And
Speaker 1: I know folks out there once again are asking, WELLY
Speaker 1: brought us what about seeing Rico Gathers this week mail
Speaker 1: bag on Dallas Cowboys down check that out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think this is more about let's see
Speaker 1: six guys play. Let's see six guys be effective playing,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be tough. This The secondary I think
Speaker 1: is a lot better coverage wise, But you know, hey,
Speaker 1: they were capable, they got opened last week. Let's see
Speaker 1: if they can do it again this weekend. Let's see
Speaker 1: if the quarterback can reward them for running good routes.
Speaker 1: I know when you mentioned Rico. Sorry, I heard someone saying, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have any red zone threats, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta get there first before you have a threat.
Speaker 1: And I think they were, oh for oh when did
Speaker 1: they get to the well, the one play. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: did the running play right, Yeah, the option for the option,
Speaker 1: which which is pretty creative by the way, but you
Speaker 1: got to get to the red zone before you haven't
Speaker 1: red zone option, you know, and and and and we're
Speaker 1: starting to get this, uh, this revisionist history. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't have Dez in the red zone. Well, what
Speaker 1: was the biggest problem last year? They connect connect with
Speaker 1: Dez in the red zone? Right now they don't have Witten.
Speaker 1: Well what did Witten have last year? Four touchdown? Did
Speaker 1: you read my foster on the mailbag? And now you're no,
Speaker 1: That's what I wrote on the mailbag, because hang on, Mick,
Speaker 1: I the one thing I think you could count on
Speaker 1: with Dez is you could throw it up to him
Speaker 1: with a fade route in the end zone, but he
Speaker 1: wouldn't catch it. Last year. Well, okay, but I felt
Speaker 1: like that was more of a go to option for
Speaker 1: him than the other stuff. During the drives though, we
Speaker 1: got to see somebody in the red zone first, that's fair.
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to look for options, new options
Speaker 1: besides handing the ball to twenty one. That's my number one,
Speaker 1: two and three options. This how about this knowing when
Speaker 1: they went two point conversion and they spread them out
Speaker 1: everybody we were sitting here's a quarterback draw and you
Speaker 1: knew it, and they still see that's that's the kind
Speaker 1: of offense you want to be able to run where
Speaker 1: they know you're going to run the football, but you
Speaker 1: could still run the football, or you could still execute
Speaker 1: plays maybe in different ways. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 1: understand everybody's apprehension about Scotland Ahan and when the play call.
Speaker 1: I get it. But I also understand just the fact
Speaker 1: that you know and and hey, folks, you have the
Speaker 1: opportunity if you want to watch the all twenty two.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sit there and act like and beat you up and
Speaker 1: you know and say, well, you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. But if you want to sit down and
Speaker 1: watch it, feel free. Get the game paths, sit down
Speaker 1: and watch, because you will see guys that get open.
Speaker 1: You will see that, you will see some creative play calling.
Speaker 1: You'll see on a third and three of him run
Speaker 1: a bunch of formation, motioning Beasley to show Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: they're in man coverage. Guy went with him, Guy went
Speaker 1: back out with him. You know these are things that
Speaker 1: you know, you could you could point to things and
Speaker 1: say that's the problem, that's the problem, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: But you could also you could see it with your
Speaker 1: own eyes that will wait a minute, that what I
Speaker 1: thought was a problem is really not the problem. This
Speaker 1: is the problem. That's That's where I think that we
Speaker 1: get a little bit lazy with our analysis. Is do
Speaker 1: we want to immediately say that Scott Linahan's an idiot?
Speaker 1: And I can hear everybody out there right now saying
Speaker 1: he has an idiot brought us He is an idiot,
Speaker 1: you know, but there's there's times where they do some
Speaker 1: creative things where he's not rewarded for his creative thought
Speaker 1: or the creative plan that they put together that day.
Speaker 1: Well said, which I was reminded of having to watch
Speaker 1: the game on TV. Yeah, you can't see what's going on.
Speaker 1: No you can't. I feel I feel sorry for you guys,
Speaker 1: Yeah you get you know, feel feel free to you know,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people disagree with me and
Speaker 1: what I say, and I'm not beating you up as
Speaker 1: a former scout. I'm not trying to do it. But
Speaker 1: if you want to take the opportunity to sit down
Speaker 1: and watch it, you can. You can see it with
Speaker 1: your own eye. You could say, well, wow, okay, that
Speaker 1: was I didn't think that watching the game the first time.
Speaker 1: But you go back and watch the ALL twenty two again,
Speaker 1: you you could you could say, whoa, oh, I see
Speaker 1: what they were trying to do here. Why do you
Speaker 1: think just ever so often the networks don't show an
Speaker 1: ALL twenty two? Is there what against I would personally,
Speaker 1: you know, I would love to watch a game from
Speaker 1: the end zone the whole time. Yes, I mean that
Speaker 1: kind of what Booker's doing on the on the money,
Speaker 1: He's all over on that. But Ray minute with that
Speaker 1: in preseason a little bit. If you if you showed me,
Speaker 1: yeah I can't you showed me like a high up
Speaker 1: view from behind of ALL twenty two. That's the best.
Speaker 1: That's the best way to watch me personally, I get
Speaker 1: more out of watching because you see, you see guys,
Speaker 1: You see blocking schemes, you see defensive coverages, you see
Speaker 1: how guys react to routes, see what the safeties are doing.
Speaker 1: See about even if you just did it on the replay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, just just get up high and show me
Speaker 1: the twenty two and then that's what they've done with
Speaker 1: Romo if you notice, though, he'll they'll show and CBS
Speaker 1: has done a nice job, but they'll show really like
Speaker 1: the all twenty two from the side almost and Romo
Speaker 1: will circle and then he'll draw into where guys needed
Speaker 1: to be in coverage and what he's seeing and stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great way to learn football myself.
Speaker 1: Anytime you can watch it, you know. But I just
Speaker 1: encourage folks if you want to. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and and and try and convince you
Speaker 1: this is the way it is. You can see it
Speaker 1: with your own eyes. If you go and get that opportunity,
Speaker 1: you'll see what what Mickey and you and Bill Jones
Speaker 1: and everybody on Dallas Cowboys dot COM's talking about. So
Speaker 1: the lesson here, get your all twenty two pass and
Speaker 1: it's totally commission. No, we're not, we're not. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to help help much. I'm trying to help fans
Speaker 1: because when I talk about this, you know, and I
Speaker 1: have to answer Twitter questions about it, and they're like, well, no,
Speaker 1: this is not let me just go watch. Just go watch,
Speaker 1: and you'll see exactly what we're talking about. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our first break. By the way, eight five
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Speaker 1: up first on Tommy, how you doing. Appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: my call? No problem, I gotta I got a bone
Speaker 1: to pick with you. I've got a few points that
Speaker 1: trying to refute some of the things that you were saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, I think the great Mike Tyson said,
Speaker 1: at first everyone has a great plan. You get hit
Speaker 1: in the mouth. True, and then you got to see
Speaker 1: what happens. And Carolina's defense definitely hit us in the mouth.
Speaker 1: They did. That's the first point. The second point, innovative
Speaker 1: and creative is good. But when the Pactors played the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the Ice Bowl, one of the greatest actually
Speaker 1: two of the greatest coaches that ever coach, going against
Speaker 1: each other. One one did on that last play quarterback sneaky,
Speaker 1: you know nothing fancy. I think the next year they
Speaker 1: played each other that the roles were reversed. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: had the chance to win on the last play with offense,
Speaker 1: and I love Tom Lanjue, but he did some complicated
Speaker 1: play that didn't work. It's like sprint right option, I believe, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got the years reverse. Yeah, it's reverse, But
Speaker 1: go ahead, You're you're rolling right along you're good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good. Okay, so and so therefore, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta use simplicity. And we have a strong offensive line.
Speaker 1: It's a mobile quarterback, and I don't believe and once
Speaker 1: again has come to coaching. You gotta know what you have.
Speaker 1: You know if I have if I have a scalpel,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to use it like a sword, and
Speaker 1: vice versus five a sword, I'm not trying to use
Speaker 1: it like a scalpel. You have to know what you're
Speaker 1: working with. And I don't think that our coaching staff
Speaker 1: does that on the officive side. And then on another
Speaker 1: part I want to make that to reiterate that is coaching,
Speaker 1: is that our defense is pretty much the same defense
Speaker 1: that it was last year. No big number one picks
Speaker 1: to come in and making a big impact, you know,
Speaker 1: Van the Hurst and Icago. None of those guys are
Speaker 1: really impacting our defense right now. What has changed on
Speaker 1: our dep side is we got a new coach that
Speaker 1: has come in and kept tied, kept our team in
Speaker 1: the game until our quarterback, which didn't have a great game.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what he didn't do. He
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over three times. Which was the
Speaker 1: thing that our last court back did when we played
Speaker 1: this team and threw us out of the game. You know,
Speaker 1: we had three interceptions against the Carolina passes a long
Speaker 1: time ago when we was a few years ago when
Speaker 1: we played them on Thursday, and our quarterback threw us
Speaker 1: out of the game because of the picks, and we
Speaker 1: went to the last second and we were still in
Speaker 1: this game, even though our team didn't play bad. So
Speaker 1: that lets me know that if you're in a game
Speaker 1: where you have a score or less, that's coaching if
Speaker 1: you cannot get that score, all right, because your team
Speaker 1: is fighting and your coaching should be able to get
Speaker 1: you a touchdown to get you over the hump. All right, well,
Speaker 1: said Horace. Appreciate the call for to Tony Romo thrown
Speaker 1: three picks on Thanksgiving. I believe it wasn't laying like
Speaker 1: they need a spatch. Look hit him off the field.
Speaker 1: He rebroke his collar bone that game. It was done
Speaker 1: for the year. Yeah after three, Yeah, Dax didn't throw
Speaker 1: four interceptions like the guy down the road, right, he didn't.
Speaker 1: And you know, if there's one thing the defense could
Speaker 1: have done better besides defending Cam, they had two more
Speaker 1: chances at takeaways. Jeff Heath with a pick that you
Speaker 1: wrote about, and I think a Woozier was in non potential.
Speaker 1: He ripped it out. I couldn't get it and recover.
Speaker 1: Crawford was really close and the receiver felt back down
Speaker 1: on the ball afterwards. Um, I think this defense is different,
Speaker 1: and I'll disagree with Horace and I appreciate his call.
Speaker 1: I think Taco did play pretty well. I thought so
Speaker 1: too in that game. I felt like, though that I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that Seaun Lee played particularly well. I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that really, Jalen Smith played all that well.
Speaker 1: You know, just watching the tape, he can throw Wilson
Speaker 1: in their death. I think that to me, it was
Speaker 1: they went with the same safeties. It was a new
Speaker 1: safety playing really, if you want to think about things,
Speaker 1: Cavon Frazier having to go the whole game and also
Speaker 1: have special teams duties as well. Tip of the cap
Speaker 1: to him playing with a bad shoulder and all that.
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, with Chris Richard and what he's done,
Speaker 1: I appreciate, I do. I appreciate the passion and fire
Speaker 1: and you know the discipline that he's brought to this defense.
Speaker 1: But you know, his questions about being innovative and simplistic
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I just I'm not here to
Speaker 1: defend the coaches, and I think everybody, if you're taking
Speaker 1: it that way, that's the wrong way. I mean, Mickey
Speaker 1: gets on me about trying to fire the head coach
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, and there's times when he's
Speaker 1: right and there's times when he's wrong. But I think
Speaker 1: we've been very fair about that. I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: fair right now that there are times when Scott Linahan
Speaker 1: and the staff put together or put together game plan.
Speaker 1: They call a player too that think's going to work,
Speaker 1: and they throw a screen to the outside, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they get a block in the back penalty,
Speaker 1: or they run, like I said, they run a bunch
Speaker 1: of formation and then they don't get the quarterback to
Speaker 1: look at the where the ball needs to go. You know,
Speaker 1: those those are you know, I don't know how you
Speaker 1: blame the coaching staff for that, But there's nobody that's
Speaker 1: been more critical of these coaches than me. Now I'm
Speaker 1: more willing to give these guys the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt now because there's a new quarterback coach. There's a
Speaker 1: new tight ends coach, there's a new offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: but they don't have a whole hell of a lot
Speaker 1: of time to work with. You know, you start losing
Speaker 1: some games and next thing you know, it's going to
Speaker 1: not be the coaching staff here anymore. We had that
Speaker 1: discussion last night on Mackey you love this the Happy
Speaker 1: Hour show, which you're I think you're on it next week.
Speaker 1: I am, but I listened to part of it coming
Speaker 1: in to smart. Is this a must win case? It
Speaker 1: is for both teams. See that's where and that's and
Speaker 1: that's where Derek and I and Derek and I when
Speaker 1: I was on the show with them a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, that's where Derek and I went round and
Speaker 1: round and round about. And that's just the personnel guy
Speaker 1: in me, because I know that you lose this game. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: where are you? Because you lost the first game, you're
Speaker 1: now you're going to be oh and two and try
Speaker 1: you know. But and people say, well, what about the
Speaker 1: ninety three cow That was a rare team, Dude, last night,
Speaker 1: that's rare. Fota the best dynasty we've ever seen. But
Speaker 1: and as people say, the Saints last year, but it
Speaker 1: said that the same thing came up in ninety three.
Speaker 1: It was the same you know, Oh, nobody that goes
Speaker 1: oh and two ever gets to the playoffs or wins
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And they didn't take into an account
Speaker 1: why they lost the first two games or how good
Speaker 1: they were, right, you know, and then they reeled off
Speaker 1: seven straight wins. The one that sticks out to me
Speaker 1: is only a few years back. It was twenty eleven
Speaker 1: and they started one and one, but they went to
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I believe that was a year game, the
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly game. Yeah, Romo played with a punctured lung
Speaker 1: in that game, right, Witton's ribs were busted up. I
Speaker 1: believe they knew the urgency of having to win that
Speaker 1: game and not fall into O and two. And they
Speaker 1: talked about it afterwards like this is this is about
Speaker 1: I say, huge, there's I'm not I'm not going to
Speaker 1: pick against them this week. I'm not because I feel
Speaker 1: like that they will go back and they'll look and
Speaker 1: they'll say, Okay, what do we have to You have
Speaker 1: some familiarity with this team that they're about to play.
Speaker 1: They'll understand, Okay, what works, what doesn't work? But you
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. Not that the sense of urgency
Speaker 1: wasn't there in Carolina. The execution was very poor, you know,
Speaker 1: except on the defensive side. Now, okay, I'll say this
Speaker 1: on defense until they figure it out that they can't
Speaker 1: over pursue and they can't and play out of their
Speaker 1: out of their lanes. You know, once they figure that out.
Speaker 1: Though they did a great job, people say, well, what
Speaker 1: adjustments did this team ever make? Mickey brought it up
Speaker 1: to you. Though they they spread that, they spread Carolina out.
Speaker 1: They took Luke Keekley out of the play. If you
Speaker 1: followed Jeff Swartz, the offensive lineman, he'll show you a
Speaker 1: mistake that was made in the game on the first
Speaker 1: on the very first play of the game with Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: Watch that last night. Yeah, so you know you, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that would have gone for a touchdown, well,
Speaker 1: it would have been a significant game. I think that
Speaker 1: to me. You know, when you miss opportunities like that,
Speaker 1: it's really easy to point the finger at people. You know,
Speaker 1: they say, well, this guy is an idiot, this guy
Speaker 1: you know, they can't do this, can't do it. And
Speaker 1: again I can hear the fans talking to me right
Speaker 1: now in my head that you know that, well, this
Speaker 1: has been the way all the time brought us. It
Speaker 1: really wasn't that way For eight nine games last year.
Speaker 1: It wasn't They were scoring points, they were moving the
Speaker 1: football for the thirteen win season. You know, we weren't
Speaker 1: really complaining about this thing being predictable or simplistic. They
Speaker 1: were running the ball and first down and making six
Speaker 1: seven yards a shot. You know, was it was? It
Speaker 1: was it simplistic and all that. Then it's kind of
Speaker 1: what Zeke talks about. It's like, yes, y'all stop asking
Speaker 1: me about loading the box because they've been loading the
Speaker 1: box on me for three years now. Yeah, it's they
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do. The second half against Carolina,
Speaker 1: they held him to eighty four yards. Yeah, eighty four yards.
Speaker 1: So did they make some sort of adjustment? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think Cam ended up rushing for minus one after
Speaker 1: the fifty would he have fifty nine yards I think finished? Yea,
Speaker 1: So he had minus one the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they made an adjustment. You know, quit over pursuing,
Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes I think, you know, I understand
Speaker 1: Rod are us of get up the field. But at
Speaker 1: other times you have to be cognizant that, okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but they just might run the ball on me. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not all about chasing the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's fine for the inside guys to create havoc,
Speaker 1: but they gotta still hold down the edge. Better play
Speaker 1: with some discipline this week with Sequon Barkley handing him
Speaker 1: the football, because he will take it one way, he
Speaker 1: will completely stop, and then while you are all on
Speaker 1: one side of the field, he will take it back
Speaker 1: the other way. And you know, so they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to play with some discipline. Even though the kids are rookie,
Speaker 1: he's one of the He reminds me, and this is
Speaker 1: high praise. He reminds me of Barry Sanders and the
Speaker 1: way he plays. And I will say this, Barry Sanders
Speaker 1: was very difficult to tackle. His stop start quickness was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: This guy has the ability to score from any place
Speaker 1: on the field. And he's a little more physical than
Speaker 1: he is hard. He is hard, but he's a he's
Speaker 1: a compact guy that when you you can bounce off him.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's got some good tacklers in that defense. And they
Speaker 1: had some guys bouncing off him. You'd better be ready
Speaker 1: to bring it with this guy. Just just put it
Speaker 1: this way. He's a hoss. He is a hoss. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do this, but because you great,
Speaker 1: you have your top fifty guys every year for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coming out of the number two he was number two.
Speaker 1: Would you have had him higer than Zeke coming out
Speaker 1: of the draft they were in the same class, I
Speaker 1: think I would. To me, I think the way I
Speaker 1: would have rated Zeke better Zeke and is was if
Speaker 1: you talk about complete back, complete back, I think to me,
Speaker 1: Zeke is more of a complete back. My favorite the
Speaker 1: highest rated guy of the guys recently had was Girly.
Speaker 1: Girly was the Girly was my guy of of If
Speaker 1: you said, well, which back would you have taken instead
Speaker 1: of Zeke? I would have taken Girly over any of
Speaker 1: these backs. But I just this Barkley kid. When you
Speaker 1: watch him play, he reminds me of Barry Sanders. He
Speaker 1: sure does. With the way his balance, stop start, quickness,
Speaker 1: the spin, the cuts, you know, all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: could see why the Giants drafted him. The Giants in
Speaker 1: one day might look up, though, and see that guy
Speaker 1: across the field from them that you know, this plays
Speaker 1: in the same stadiums, Like, boy, we should have taken
Speaker 1: this guy as our future quarterback. We'll see, But I
Speaker 1: do like the pick of Barkley though he had. They
Speaker 1: managed to hold him in check except for the one run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a sixty eight yard touchdown run. So he
Speaker 1: had one run for sixty eight. He had seventeen runs
Speaker 1: for thirty eight. Yeah, so they were struggling offensively except
Speaker 1: for that one play. Yeah, that one plays. I can't
Speaker 1: see anytimes I've seen Sanders when I was in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Minus one, minus three five, minus one, minus two fifty
Speaker 1: eight yards. That's how his carries would go in a game,
Speaker 1: you know, and you and this kid, this kid has
Speaker 1: the same But yeah, Mickey's right. Jacksonville did a good
Speaker 1: job of getting to him though. They did. They did.
Speaker 1: You've got to get bodies to him, you got to
Speaker 1: tackle him, and you gotta be careful of him bouncing off.
Speaker 1: Barry Church played a good game, by the way, Barry
Speaker 1: was a little store after that one. Yeah, he's having
Speaker 1: to He was having to do a lot of tackling,
Speaker 1: a lot of tackling. By the way. One more note,
Speaker 1: because Horace mentioned this about Taco and the call speaking
Speaker 1: of safeties, both starting safeties Heath and Fraser did not
Speaker 1: miss a snap. The don't come off the field every night.
Speaker 1: Taco had more snaps in the game than DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: by one. Yeah, Taco played forty nine snaps in the
Speaker 1: game and Antoine Woods did two and they both played well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's encouraging two young players. I was talking
Speaker 1: to Rod Marinelli yesterday at lunch. I said, coach, I'd go,
Speaker 1: great job of getting the sack that MALIEK. Collins had.
Speaker 1: You know that he had just backup players on the field.
Speaker 1: You know, Ross Taco. Those guys were all rushing the passer.
Speaker 1: It wasn't they got pressure and a sack with backup players,
Speaker 1: Which is something that Mickey and I and we've all
Speaker 1: talked about this. You know what happens when they take
Speaker 1: the starters off the field, Do they get pressure? Do
Speaker 1: they make plays? You know, for for a long time
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. It looks like that that has
Speaker 1: changed for the better for this defense. Well what it
Speaker 1: used to be is, okay, the offenses backed up at
Speaker 1: the ten yard line. Let's put the backups in right,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden fifty yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like okay, here comes to Calvary. You guys are out. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do. I think because TCU defensively Gary Patterson, he'll
Speaker 1: have him ready, he'll Gary Patterson might not have the
Speaker 1: horses to run the race, but who can up with
Speaker 1: a good scheme. Yeah, he'll come up with something to
Speaker 1: kind of mess with their but with their offensive scheme.
Speaker 1: Young quarterback for TCU gonna have some difficulties with the
Speaker 1: Ohio State defense. Yeah, they got a block, But how
Speaker 1: is Bosa as both Bosa's hurt now and I am
Speaker 1: mysa hurt I think he was. Yeah, both of them
Speaker 1: are hurt now, so well that makes a difference. I'll
Speaker 1: not make that mistake. I'll be watching from home. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be great college football Saturday this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of good matchups if you're in
Speaker 1: the area. Check that out. And Sunday at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: Single game tickets Giants game, forty Bucks Dallas Cowboys. Zeke
Speaker 1: can't go to the Ohio State game, right, or can't
Speaker 1: watch their schedule on a night before like it it's
Speaker 1: a seven o'clock kickoff. They usually they got a meetings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna probably go speak to the team, go
Speaker 1: show up, speak to this'd be cool. Yeah, he'll do
Speaker 1: that like on Friday. Sure, Yeah, over there and hang
Speaker 1: out with him a little bit, right, big football weekend
Speaker 1: at the stadium. Let's get back to the phone lines, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Matt in Austin, you're up next on talking Cowboys. What's up, Matt,
Speaker 1: Hey don't know. Thanks taking a call. I think I've
Speaker 1: come to terms with the loss at Carolina because I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody strolls into Carolina and has a great
Speaker 1: day at their house. I mean, they're a good team.
Speaker 1: They've appeared in the playoffs quite a bit. Um. I
Speaker 1: think the defense played well enough for me to have
Speaker 1: some hope there. And I think offensively, you know, we
Speaker 1: ran sixty Matt, Wait, what way did the defense play
Speaker 1: well for? You? You know, because I think they played
Speaker 1: well in terms of not letting Carolina move efficiently in
Speaker 1: the red zone like they can. They ran up and
Speaker 1: down the field, but when it came time to try
Speaker 1: and get a turnover in the red zone or limit
Speaker 1: them to a field goal attempt, or you know, keep
Speaker 1: them out. Um. I mean, Carolina is not designed to
Speaker 1: put up four hundred yards, but they can. And I
Speaker 1: think I think our line put pressure on Cam once
Speaker 1: they've figured out that, oh my gosh, he might keep
Speaker 1: it on the quarterback read option. Um. So, I think
Speaker 1: they adjusted well and in the second half I think
Speaker 1: gave me some confidence going forward and Lee Lee will
Speaker 1: play better. I mean, that's just that's guaranteed. Offensively, what
Speaker 1: we ran sixty seventy plays, and I want to say
Speaker 1: fifty of them were unsuccessful. And I think each unsuccessful
Speaker 1: play you could point to a different factor, whether it
Speaker 1: be a penalty, a missed block, a missed assignment, a
Speaker 1: bad quarterback throw, a bad read, a bad play call.
Speaker 1: So I think when folks are like, it's all coaching, well,
Speaker 1: it's partly coaching, it's all the quarterback. Well, it's partly
Speaker 1: the quarterback. What And again, you don't just stroll into
Speaker 1: Carolina and expect to punch those guys in the mouth.
Speaker 1: It doesn't, it doesn't happen. You fight, and we were close,
Speaker 1: but we didn't bring it home. What I want to
Speaker 1: see that I think is that needs to be a
Speaker 1: little different when in twenty sixteen, when we were successful
Speaker 1: and when we've played successful games since then, it's predicated
Speaker 1: on and ahead of the chains, so that defenses can't
Speaker 1: key on what we're going to do on second and
Speaker 1: third downs correct because they've got enough film on Prescott
Speaker 1: to know what he can and can't do, what he likes,
Speaker 1: and what he doesn't. And so if coordinators on second
Speaker 1: and third down can stop what's easy for him, it
Speaker 1: creates problems. And one thing I didn't like was that
Speaker 1: on early downs we run straight into the strength of
Speaker 1: the Carolina front. True, and they've been running on first
Speaker 1: down for three years. Yeah, that's what and we do it.
Speaker 1: We do it more than anybody else in the league,
Speaker 1: which is fine. And I think that with Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: and maybe even a Ron Leary you can probably match
Speaker 1: up with anybody. But with a serviceable Joe Looney and
Speaker 1: a rookie Connor Williams, I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: same line. And so what I'd like to see is
Speaker 1: more of that spread running attack on first down. So
Speaker 1: because when you when you get in shotgun eleven, I
Speaker 1: think you limit your options to the point where the
Speaker 1: defense can say, well, let's make Dac throw to the
Speaker 1: sideline and see if he can connect, versus being able
Speaker 1: to run Zeke for a couple of yards. That makes
Speaker 1: your second down more manageable, and that makes your third
Speaker 1: down a position where you can say, all right, de coordinator,
Speaker 1: are we running here or are we throwing? And that's
Speaker 1: what we couldn't do against Carolina. You can't just run
Speaker 1: it at Snacks Harrison next weekend and expect Looney and
Speaker 1: Williams to be able to push him around like a
Speaker 1: Frederick and a Leary could in my opinion. Okay, and
Speaker 1: so that's what I want to see. Good luck, guys,
Speaker 1: enjoy the RESTA A right good call, Matt, Thanks, Ollie,
Speaker 1: you're on board with all that, Mick. He makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yeah, because I've been saying this for
Speaker 1: two three years. You go two tight ends, go three
Speaker 1: tight ends? What are you doing? You might as well
Speaker 1: have one of those signs on the restaurant that says
Speaker 1: eat eat. This one says are you and run? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, blanking and stubborn. Yeah. Now I understand the
Speaker 1: identity thing. We want to be physical, we want to
Speaker 1: run the ball, but you don't have to tip your hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how about three tight ends, play action and throw
Speaker 1: at eighty yards. I don't even care if it's incomplete. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Giants him, you'll do it. Giantsto down third and
Speaker 1: one the other day and then they went they went
Speaker 1: three wides, packed it and faked it and then throw
Speaker 1: it down, threw it down the field, almost almost pulled
Speaker 1: it all. Let me ask you guys this question, then,
Speaker 1: does this team need to be more of a college
Speaker 1: offense because they need do they need to go back
Speaker 1: and do in the readoption stuff and just go ahead
Speaker 1: and run Dak Prescott on the readoption stuff. And are
Speaker 1: you going to really develop a quarterback that way or
Speaker 1: you play into the strength of what you have right now?
Speaker 1: My question makes sense. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're trying to develop him as a pocket pass or
Speaker 1: is that the wrong approach to take with this guy? Well,
Speaker 1: I think for his longevity, That's what I'm saying. This
Speaker 1: is this is better than I mean, are you gonna
Speaker 1: are you are you wasting him trying to make him
Speaker 1: a pocket passer or should you go ahead and say,
Speaker 1: you know what I need to win games now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so but okay, so I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: But there's this this idea that when he gets outside
Speaker 1: the pocket and he's running, he throws the ball better. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not what happened with Blake Jarwin. No right, no
Speaker 1: help him. But I understand you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of times when he's outside the pocket, he's
Speaker 1: not setting his feet and he's not throwing the ball accurately.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with the run option, the run option deals,
Speaker 1: mixing those in Okay, but not a steady diet of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying because I know who my backup
Speaker 1: quarterback is. That's but there we go again. If you
Speaker 1: play to his strength of him being a mobile quarterback,
Speaker 1: are you are? You are the risk? You run the
Speaker 1: risk and I want to But does that does that
Speaker 1: make the offense better? It does? I think it does
Speaker 1: because you do play to his strength. Coach John our
Speaker 1: Buddy and Lufkin tweeted that they he saw them read
Speaker 1: the run zone reads seven times in the game, but
Speaker 1: Carolina snuffed it out and forced him to hand the
Speaker 1: ball off and sort of him discipline discipline defense. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: but how did they score the touchdown? It was at
Speaker 1: an option option? Well, they got a good block on
Speaker 1: the outside, but no creative I'm yeah, I'm just here
Speaker 1: you go. I'm I'm just asking them. No, I see you?
Speaker 1: Are we are we asking? Are we? Are we sacrificing
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? Are we not? Are we not making Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott the best player he can be because we're asking
Speaker 1: to do something he's not capable of doing. I think
Speaker 1: he is. He is capable of doing what they're asking him.
Speaker 1: To do. The problem is these other variables meeting a
Speaker 1: Carolina defense when under duress, It's it's very different. It's
Speaker 1: it's a difficult transition. If you're talking about making him
Speaker 1: a pocket passer, Okay, it's it's gotta it's gotta be
Speaker 1: baby steps as far as that goes, you know, it's
Speaker 1: he's got You got to incorporate both into the game plan.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get yourself in second and seventeen
Speaker 1: run option done work, I understand. I'm just saying I'll say, yeah,
Speaker 1: hand it off there. Maybe on the first down run though,
Speaker 1: if it's not a penalley or not a sack or whatever.
Speaker 1: But if if it's a well, can they stay ahead
Speaker 1: of the Chaine with him playing read option football? Can
Speaker 1: they do they need to be a college offense? Were
Speaker 1: they a college offense in twenty sixteen? I think they
Speaker 1: had a little bit of that did? I think my
Speaker 1: question on that have defensive coordinators taken a lot of
Speaker 1: that stuff away now knowing that they that's what they
Speaker 1: like to do. Like for instance, there and I don't
Speaker 1: remember specifically when it was, there was it was either
Speaker 1: a waggle or a bootleg where the defensive end just
Speaker 1: crashed in on attack and he had no place to
Speaker 1: go and he threw it short to the tight end.
Speaker 1: He threw it in the ground on purpose. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: there was they had. There's a couple they tried to
Speaker 1: run ydloss or out, a couple of waggles where they didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, Carolina's linebackers and safeties and Brian's talked about it.
Speaker 1: They did such a good ball job of flowing to
Speaker 1: the ball and just shutting down anything on the edge
Speaker 1: on the outside. Well, it's it's like they got to
Speaker 1: stay at home. Yeah, you know, and if they stay
Speaker 1: at home, so it Dallas did. Mickey's right, he read
Speaker 1: you the numbers. Once Dallas started playing a little bit
Speaker 1: better disciplined defense, they were able to kind of control.
Speaker 1: But I just okay, if if you need to, if
Speaker 1: you want to make Dak Prescott a better quarterback, do
Speaker 1: you play to his strings and that's let him run
Speaker 1: the ball and damn him getting hurt. I don't think
Speaker 1: you want a steady diet of it, because they will
Speaker 1: do what we saw in the game. They started cutting
Speaker 1: off that the rollouts, the reverse boot to the right
Speaker 1: throw on the run. Yeah, but they never really got running.
Speaker 1: And they only got running when they got into eleven personnel.
Speaker 1: So do you play eleven personnel? Forget the tight ends
Speaker 1: and just say okay, we're gonna spread you out. And Bill,
Speaker 1: you watch it every week at Oklahoma? How do they
Speaker 1: move the ball? Their quarterback runs the ball. I think
Speaker 1: he had ninety something yards rushing the other day in
Speaker 1: that game. Do you realize? And I looked when I
Speaker 1: saw this, Dack's quarterback rating was eighteenth. Yeah. After one week,
Speaker 1: there were sixteen quarterbacks in the league that had a
Speaker 1: worst a worse quarterback rating. Manning, car Roethlister, Ryan Foles,
Speaker 1: and Stafford were among those sixteen that played worst. Well,
Speaker 1: that was all losses too, By the way, give me
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks again. Cars, Roethlisberger at tie, that's a loss
Speaker 1: because it was Cleveland, Bradford loss, Ryan loss Thursday Night
Speaker 1: falls one barely by the skin of their teeth, and
Speaker 1: Stafford got cream that might cost the head coaches job.
Speaker 1: I'll stop one game. Here we go. Well, what do
Speaker 1: you think these other cities are saying right now? No,
Speaker 1: how about the ones with the new coach? Then we're
Speaker 1: all fired up. Every one of them got their butts
Speaker 1: but I got you. But fans are looking back, they
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of they don't know what they
Speaker 1: have in their skill positions teams for new coaches. I
Speaker 1: guess that team. That's why they're there right and there,
Speaker 1: and they're seeing continuation to some problems last year. And
Speaker 1: so look they Jason Garrett said, they gotta find a
Speaker 1: way to fix this and get some things offensively that
Speaker 1: they can go to they know will work. Yeah, hand
Speaker 1: the ball to Zeke, throw the ball to Beasley. There's
Speaker 1: your given. Dak run and Dak Ryan's all in on it.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why. No, I mean
Speaker 1: if offensively, if you you know, you might have to
Speaker 1: sacrifice to health your quarterback for this offense to run better.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to do with
Speaker 1: while the defense is playing, like, are they over pursuing? Then? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me get them out there. That's how Cam made
Speaker 1: it work, right right, Yeah, full of a couple of
Speaker 1: times and the one and they planned on it. Cowboys
Speaker 1: were over gonna pursue, all right, over gonna pursue. We're
Speaker 1: gonna pursue. That's a good way to end it. You
Speaker 1: left Garoppolo off that list of quarterbacks too. Yeah, established
Speaker 1: financially Francisco turnaround year five and one. Now it's a starter,
Speaker 1: right for six and one, not anymore. Yeah, the NFL
Speaker 1: is a strange lady, right, Brian absolutely finding that out
Speaker 1: more and more. We'll see what the Cowboys do this Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow though, to continue breaking things down. Bill,
Speaker 1: we'll be back in the captain's chair. Thanks to Ken
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