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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Says here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome into Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the s WBC Mortgage studio. We're moving on

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Speaker 1: week two. Cowboys, Giants, Cowboys getting back to work here

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Speaker 1: out at the Star in Frisco. Today. Jason Garrett will

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Speaker 1: address the media at ten thirty five ish Central Time,

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Speaker 1: but before that, got an hour to talk about anything Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: We can we can put our final touches on Carolina,

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Speaker 1: but we're definitely gonna move forward. Oh, I've moved forward

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Speaker 1: on this one to the Giants, and you've been watching

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Speaker 1: tape and you're gonna have i think your first batch

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Speaker 1: of analysis on the site today. Nemesis, the Nemesis, the

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Speaker 1: weapon and the under the radar guys, So hopefully you

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to check that out again. Had an

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Speaker 1: oportunity to sit down and watch the Giants some of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, also watched them play Jacksonville in this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: So some uh, some interesting takes with UH with the

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Speaker 1: new uh new head coach with Pat Schermer and what

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Speaker 1: and what this How this Giant team looks a lot

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Speaker 1: different from what the Giants teams we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones for now. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if he gets back in here. It's his TV taping

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Speaker 1: day just down the hall, so we'll see what we got. Mickey,

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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola in studio almost on time, almost on time.

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Speaker 1: If they wouldn't have talked five minutes about some high

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Speaker 1: school coach they got fired, I probably would have been

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Speaker 1: right on time. Oh why was that discussion. It was

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Speaker 1: a story that some kids spiked the water at practice

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Speaker 1: with and he didn't report the kids. Oh so he

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Speaker 1: was trying to do the kids a favor. Huh. He

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Speaker 1: was probably probably trying to cover himself also, And then

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Speaker 1: they dug up other stuff on him and they fired

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Speaker 1: the guy. I had to get your take on that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so no they didn't, but I had to wait five

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Speaker 1: minutes until they finished with it. Evidently he the spike

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Speaker 1: of choice in the water was some sort of male

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Speaker 1: enhancement interesting something or other. Again, that's a big that's

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Speaker 1: a big yeah. Yeah kids these days. Yeah, I never

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Speaker 1: heard of that one. That's a new one. What brownies?

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Speaker 1: Was it? No? Not at all. Hey, are you moved

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Speaker 1: on or you moved on to New York? Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Are we off a Carolina? Yeah, it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't. As Brian said, all the low hanging fruit

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Speaker 1: has been picked already, So yeah, it's time to move forward. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the mail back questions haven't ended in

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Speaker 1: terms of, hey, let's replace this coach, that coach, this

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Speaker 1: play caller. Look, it's one game in and obviously I've

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Speaker 1: said it two times this week. There are trouble signs

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Speaker 1: that date back to last season. Sure, but I mean

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Speaker 1: I went through it again and I looked at the

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Speaker 1: place who played in the game. You had ten new

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Speaker 1: players offensively, five new starters. A lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: missed time in preseason. I'm just not ready to panic,

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Speaker 1: and that's what Cole Beasley said in the locker room yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But obviously they've got to get something going offensively, and

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Speaker 1: they've got to do it quickly. And this won't be

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Speaker 1: an easy challenging. No, it won't be. It won't be

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Speaker 1: I always try and figure out why. That's my first

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Speaker 1: thing if you have problems, figure out why something happened.

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Speaker 1: And you know I talked about the low hanging fruit

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Speaker 1: and all that. It's really easy to see say play

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Speaker 1: dive in. You got to dive into why they didn't.

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Speaker 1: They've they've struggled, you know, and and Mickey's talked about

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Speaker 1: this before. Up until a certain point of last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Atlanta game basically, or after the Kansas

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Speaker 1: They were you know, they were uh, they were they

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Speaker 1: were doing things. They were moving the football, they were

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Speaker 1: running the football. Dak Prescott was making plays. They were

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Speaker 1: putting up points. You know, they were having some success.

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Speaker 1: They lost a couple of games they probably shouldn't have lost,

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Speaker 1: of games they shouldn't lost. But you know, you need

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Speaker 1: you know, coaches tend to go back and say, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: on scheme wise, as far as upfront and some of

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Speaker 1: the blocking stuff they had to do with some of

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Speaker 1: the personnel. But they had receivers that got open. They

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Speaker 1: just sent a quarterback that just didn't throw to the

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Speaker 1: that's the whole idea is for them to work. But

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Speaker 1: and I'm you know, because everybody had a turn at

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Speaker 1: this one. But they've got to figure this out. The Giants.

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Speaker 1: As you said, Rob, this is not going to be

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Speaker 1: an easy game for them. Defensively, They're going to have

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Speaker 1: to do some things that they're gonna have to move

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Speaker 1: this giant front, and I mean move them in a

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Speaker 1: way of misdirections, play actions, anything, waggles, boot screens. You've

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Speaker 1: got to get these guys to play on the move

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Speaker 1: because this secondary is better than what you played against Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Now the test will be, Okay, can you run the

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Speaker 1: You know that's going to be the real test because

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Speaker 1: if they don't, if they revert back to some of

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Speaker 1: the things that they did last week against Carolina, they'll

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Speaker 1: lose this game too. They won't move the ball, they'll

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Speaker 1: look bad. So they better figure out some things very quickly. Here.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville had and with their limited offense early in that

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Speaker 1: Giants defense on the run. Yeah, but they were moving,

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Speaker 1: here and I wrote down Giants old line in Hale's there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were terrible. That's a big problem for them.

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Speaker 1: It still is. That would be that would be something

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Speaker 1: that our buddies at the Giants dot Com when they

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Speaker 1: do a show very similar arts, they will they will

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Speaker 1: talk about the matchup problems that they have with the

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Speaker 1: with the Cowboys defensive line, and I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: our buddy on either Thursday or Friday, John schmel and

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Speaker 1: he wrote about the line earlier this year. Really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but they they will talk about the problems that

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Speaker 1: things that Mickey's talk function. Yeah, I mean I it's

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Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a lot of questions on I

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Speaker 1: think the best way to attack the Giants is move them.

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Speaker 1: You could see and Mickey's right, you could see the

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Speaker 1: and it was affecting the way that the Giants were attacking.

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Speaker 1: will say this again, Carolina's secondary is not as good

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Speaker 1: you know previously It's like you never knew what universe

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Speaker 1: He was, and they played without Olivier Vernon in this

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Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon, and it's he didn't really emerge. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's good A pass rushing front is

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Speaker 1: what we saw in Carolina. Well, how do you think

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Speaker 1: the scheme change affects things? Because we're used to the

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Speaker 1: I believe it's it's James bet Betcher is that he

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Speaker 1: he's going to be an outside rushing linebacker. That's true

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Speaker 1: for them, yep. And it plays the will is the will.

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Speaker 1: Barrow's in that spot now, So how how do you

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Speaker 1: think it affects the way they rushed the passer? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing about the three four is when

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Speaker 1: Wade was here, you don't know where they don't have

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Speaker 1: coming from. They don't have that dynamic guy they you know,

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Speaker 1: when the Giants were winning super Bowls, Well, they've won

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Speaker 1: super Bowls in the two thousands. I shouldn't say that,

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Speaker 1: but but they were a team that that always had

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Speaker 1: But they don't have now without without Olivier Vernon there,

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Speaker 1: they've got a couple of guys. They have this young

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Speaker 1: uh you know, uh they this Kareem Martin number ninety

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Speaker 1: to pick with you. I've got a few points that

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Speaker 1: trying to refute some of the things that you were saying. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I think the great Mike Tyson said,

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Speaker 1: They did. That's the first point. The second point, innovative

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Speaker 1: each other. One one did on that last play quarterback sneaky,

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Speaker 1: had the chance to win on the last play with offense,

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Speaker 1: You know if I have if I have a scalpel,

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Speaker 1: Van the Hurst and Icago. None of those guys are

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Speaker 1: really impacting our defense right now. What has changed on

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Speaker 1: has come in and kept tied, kept our team in

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what he didn't do. He

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Speaker 1: this team and threw us out of the game. You know,

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Speaker 1: we played them on Thursday, and our quarterback threw us

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Speaker 1: went to the last second and we were still in

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Speaker 1: this game, even though our team didn't play bad. So

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Speaker 1: that lets me know that if you're in a game

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Speaker 1: where you have a score or less, that's coaching if

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Speaker 1: you cannot get that score, all right, because your team

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Speaker 1: said Horace. Appreciate the call for to Tony Romo thrown

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Speaker 1: He rebroke his collar bone that game. It was done

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Speaker 1: four interceptions like the guy down the road, right, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if there's one thing the defense could

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Speaker 1: chances at takeaways. Jeff Heath with a pick that you

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Speaker 1: He ripped it out. I couldn't get it and recover.

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Speaker 1: Crawford was really close and the receiver felt back down

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Speaker 1: I think Taco did play pretty well. I thought so

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Speaker 1: didn't feel like that Seaun Lee played particularly well. I

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Speaker 1: You know, just watching the tape, he can throw Wilson

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Speaker 1: in their death. I think that to me, it was

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Speaker 1: to him playing with a bad shoulder and all that.

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Speaker 1: ninety three cow That was a rare team, Dude, last night,

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Speaker 1: that's rare. Fota the best dynasty we've ever seen. But

638
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and as people say, the Saints last year, but it

639
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: said that the same thing came up in ninety three.

640
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: It was the same you know, Oh, nobody that goes

641
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: oh and two ever gets to the playoffs or wins

642
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And they didn't take into an account

643
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: why they lost the first two games or how good

644
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: they were, right, you know, and then they reeled off

645
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: seven straight wins. The one that sticks out to me

646
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: is only a few years back. It was twenty eleven

647
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: and they started one and one, but they went to

648
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I believe that was a year game, the

649
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly game. Yeah, Romo played with a punctured lung

650
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: in that game, right, Witton's ribs were busted up. I

651
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: believe they knew the urgency of having to win that

652
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: game and not fall into O and two. And they

653
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: talked about it afterwards like this is this is about

654
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Speaker 1: I say, huge, there's I'm not I'm not going to

655
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: pick against them this week. I'm not because I feel

656
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: like that they will go back and they'll look and

657
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: they'll say, Okay, what do we have to You have

658
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: some familiarity with this team that they're about to play.

659
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: They'll understand, Okay, what works, what doesn't work? But you

660
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. Not that the sense of urgency

661
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: wasn't there in Carolina. The execution was very poor, you know,

662
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: except on the defensive side. Now, okay, I'll say this

663
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: on defense until they figure it out that they can't

664
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: over pursue and they can't and play out of their

665
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: out of their lanes. You know, once they figure that out.

666
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Though they did a great job, people say, well, what

667
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: adjustments did this team ever make? Mickey brought it up

668
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: to you. Though they they spread that, they spread Carolina out.

669
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: They took Luke Keekley out of the play. If you

670
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: followed Jeff Swartz, the offensive lineman, he'll show you a

671
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: mistake that was made in the game on the first

672
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: on the very first play of the game with Lyle Collins.

673
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Watch that last night. Yeah, so you know you, I

674
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: don't know if that would have gone for a touchdown, well,

675
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: it would have been a significant game. I think that

676
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: to me. You know, when you miss opportunities like that,

677
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: it's really easy to point the finger at people. You know,

678
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: they say, well, this guy is an idiot, this guy

679
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, they can't do this, can't do it. And

680
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: again I can hear the fans talking to me right

681
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: now in my head that you know that, well, this

682
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: has been the way all the time brought us. It

683
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: really wasn't that way For eight nine games last year.

684
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't They were scoring points, they were moving the

685
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: football for the thirteen win season. You know, we weren't

686
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: really complaining about this thing being predictable or simplistic. They

687
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: were running the ball and first down and making six

688
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: seven yards a shot. You know, was it was? It

689
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: was it simplistic and all that. Then it's kind of

690
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: what Zeke talks about. It's like, yes, y'all stop asking

691
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: me about loading the box because they've been loading the

692
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: box on me for three years now. Yeah, it's they

693
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna do. The second half against Carolina,

694
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: they held him to eighty four yards. Yeah, eighty four yards.

695
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: So did they make some sort of adjustment? Yeah, because

696
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: I think Cam ended up rushing for minus one after

697
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: the fifty would he have fifty nine yards I think finished? Yea,

698
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: So he had minus one the rest of the way.

699
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, they made an adjustment. You know, quit over pursuing,

700
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes I think, you know, I understand

701
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Rod are us of get up the field. But at

702
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: other times you have to be cognizant that, okay, that's fine,

703
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: but they just might run the ball on me. Right.

704
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's not all about chasing the quarterback. So

705
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's fine for the inside guys to create havoc,

706
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: but they gotta still hold down the edge. Better play

707
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: with some discipline this week with Sequon Barkley handing him

708
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: the football, because he will take it one way, he

709
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: will completely stop, and then while you are all on

710
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: one side of the field, he will take it back

711
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the other way. And you know, so they're gonna have

712
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: to play with some discipline. Even though the kids are rookie,

713
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: he's one of the He reminds me, and this is

714
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: high praise. He reminds me of Barry Sanders and the

715
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: way he plays. And I will say this, Barry Sanders

716
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: was very difficult to tackle. His stop start quickness was unbelievable.

717
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: This guy has the ability to score from any place

718
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: on the field. And he's a little more physical than

719
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: he is hard. He is hard, but he's a he's

720
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: a compact guy that when you you can bounce off him.

721
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's got some good tacklers in that defense. And they

722
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: had some guys bouncing off him. You'd better be ready

723
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: to bring it with this guy. Just just put it

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: this way. He's a hoss. He is a hoss. Yeah.

725
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do this, but because you great,

726
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: you have your top fifty guys every year for us. Yeah,

727
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: coming out of the number two he was number two.

728
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Would you have had him higer than Zeke coming out

729
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: of the draft they were in the same class, I

730
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: think I would. To me, I think the way I

731
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: would have rated Zeke better Zeke and is was if

732
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: you talk about complete back, complete back, I think to me,

733
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: Zeke is more of a complete back. My favorite the

734
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: highest rated guy of the guys recently had was Girly.

735
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Girly was the Girly was my guy of of If

736
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: you said, well, which back would you have taken instead

737
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: of Zeke? I would have taken Girly over any of

738
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: these backs. But I just this Barkley kid. When you

739
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: watch him play, he reminds me of Barry Sanders. He

740
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: sure does. With the way his balance, stop start, quickness,

741
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: the spin, the cuts, you know, all that stuff. I

742
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: could see why the Giants drafted him. The Giants in

743
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: one day might look up, though, and see that guy

744
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: across the field from them that you know, this plays

745
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: in the same stadiums, Like, boy, we should have taken

746
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: this guy as our future quarterback. We'll see, But I

747
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: do like the pick of Barkley though he had. They

748
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: managed to hold him in check except for the one run. Yeah,

749
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: he had a sixty eight yard touchdown run. So he

750
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: had one run for sixty eight. He had seventeen runs

751
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: for thirty eight. Yeah, so they were struggling offensively except

752
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: for that one play. Yeah, that one plays. I can't

753
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: see anytimes I've seen Sanders when I was in Green Bay.

754
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Minus one, minus three five, minus one, minus two fifty

755
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: eight yards. That's how his carries would go in a game,

756
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, and you and this kid, this kid has

757
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: the same But yeah, Mickey's right. Jacksonville did a good

758
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: job of getting to him though. They did. They did.

759
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: You've got to get bodies to him, you got to

760
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: tackle him, and you gotta be careful of him bouncing off.

761
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: Barry Church played a good game, by the way, Barry

762
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: was a little store after that one. Yeah, he's having

763
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: to He was having to do a lot of tackling,

764
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: a lot of tackling. By the way. One more note,

765
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: because Horace mentioned this about Taco and the call speaking

766
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: of safeties, both starting safeties Heath and Fraser did not

767
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: miss a snap. The don't come off the field every night.

768
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Taco had more snaps in the game than DeMarcus Lawrence

769
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: by one. Yeah, Taco played forty nine snaps in the

770
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: game and Antoine Woods did two and they both played well. Yeah,

771
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: so that's that's encouraging two young players. I was talking

772
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: to Rod Marinelli yesterday at lunch. I said, coach, I'd go,

773
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: great job of getting the sack that MALIEK. Collins had.

774
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: You know that he had just backup players on the field.

775
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, Ross Taco. Those guys were all rushing the passer.

776
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't they got pressure and a sack with backup players,

777
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Which is something that Mickey and I and we've all

778
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: talked about this. You know what happens when they take

779
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: the starters off the field, Do they get pressure? Do

780
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: they make plays? You know, for for a long time

781
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. It looks like that that has

782
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: changed for the better for this defense. Well what it

783
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: used to be is, okay, the offenses backed up at

784
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Speaker 1: the ten yard line. Let's put the backups in right,

785
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden fifty yeah, and it's

786
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: like okay, here comes to Calvary. You guys are out. Yeah, yeah,

787
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Speaker 1: all right, let's take our final break. Matt and Austin

788
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Speaker 1: was that was key. Yeah, great training camps. Yeah that

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00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: is good. And when you have a big forehead, you

847
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: know what that's all about. I'm with you on that. Yeah.

848
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: In movie theater. Bill trolling me on Twitter last night,

849
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: that was a good troll job by you. I tweeted

850
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: that the A and M loss, it got really high ratings.

851
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Obviously the big game against comes in. I said that

852
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: was the best loss ever, And Bill said, what was

853
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: the worst loss ever was? And Ryan, do you know

854
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: what the worst loss in A M? Sixty sixty six

855
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: to seven, No, seventy seventy seven, seventy seven to nothing?

856
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Was that in Eva's game? It played in Norman I believe,

857
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah, But then they did it right,

858
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: didn't they bring him? The previous year sixty six to

859
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: seven was back to back years where it was actually

860
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: but there was one Reggie McNeil was a quarterback. They

861
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: beat O you Yeah, one ranked team. I was there, Yeah,

862
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: that was in that game. He was a freshman that year. Yeah,

863
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: that's right. I thought he was. Whatever happened with Rege

864
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: McNeil didn't happen. Lufkin texts it just didn't happen. But

865
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: it was that wasn't happened. That was a good half

866
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: a season though, sort of like the two point conversion play. Yeah,

867
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: oh well, I wasn't a fan of that. Nobody is

868
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: sprint ride options. A terrible call was you're Joe Montana

869
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one, That's when that play was really

870
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: really good and he was trying to throw it. Why

871
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: do you yeah, why do you repay? Why do you

872
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: limit yourself with space? I never quite understood that, because

873
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: you ran everybody into the court. That's why I'm saying,

874
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: why would you limit yourself with space? I've never quite understood.

875
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm all about options. Quarterback sprint quarderback option would have

876
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: been better. Yeah, anything, But we got some college football

877
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Saturday night, y at and T Stadium Ohio State. Do

878
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: you give TCU any chance against Ohio State? Yes, you do?

879
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: I do. I think because TCU defensively Gary Patterson, he'll

880
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: have him ready, he'll Gary Patterson might not have the

881
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: horses to run the race, but who can up with

882
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: a good scheme. Yeah, he'll come up with something to

883
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: kind of mess with their but with their offensive scheme.

884
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Young quarterback for TCU gonna have some difficulties with the

885
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: Ohio State defense. Yeah, they got a block, But how

886
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: is Bosa as both Bosa's hurt now and I am

887
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: mysa hurt I think he was. Yeah, both of them

888
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: are hurt now, so well that makes a difference. I'll

889
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: not make that mistake. I'll be watching from home. You

890
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: don't want to be great college football Saturday this year? Yeah,

891
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: you got a lot of good matchups if you're in

892
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: the area. Check that out. And Sunday at and T Stadium.

893
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: Single game tickets Giants game, forty Bucks Dallas Cowboys. Zeke

894
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: can't go to the Ohio State game, right, or can't

895
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: watch their schedule on a night before like it it's

896
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: a seven o'clock kickoff. They usually they got a meetings. Yeah,

897
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: he's not gonna probably go speak to the team, go

898
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: show up, speak to this'd be cool. Yeah, he'll do

899
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: that like on Friday. Sure, Yeah, over there and hang

900
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: out with him a little bit, right, big football weekend

901
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: at the stadium. Let's get back to the phone lines, gentlemen,

902
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Matt in Austin, you're up next on talking Cowboys. What's up, Matt,

903
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: Hey don't know. Thanks taking a call. I think I've

904
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: come to terms with the loss at Carolina because I

905
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: don't think anybody strolls into Carolina and has a great

906
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: day at their house. I mean, they're a good team.

907
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: They've appeared in the playoffs quite a bit. Um. I

908
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: think the defense played well enough for me to have

909
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: some hope there. And I think offensively, you know, we

910
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: ran sixty Matt, Wait, what way did the defense play

911
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: well for? You? You know, because I think they played

912
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: well in terms of not letting Carolina move efficiently in

913
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: the red zone like they can. They ran up and

914
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: down the field, but when it came time to try

915
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: and get a turnover in the red zone or limit

916
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: them to a field goal attempt, or you know, keep

917
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: them out. Um. I mean, Carolina is not designed to

918
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: put up four hundred yards, but they can. And I

919
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: think I think our line put pressure on Cam once

920
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: they've figured out that, oh my gosh, he might keep

921
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: it on the quarterback read option. Um. So, I think

922
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: they adjusted well and in the second half I think

923
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: gave me some confidence going forward and Lee Lee will

924
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: play better. I mean, that's just that's guaranteed. Offensively, what

925
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: we ran sixty seventy plays, and I want to say

926
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: fifty of them were unsuccessful. And I think each unsuccessful

927
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: play you could point to a different factor, whether it

928
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: be a penalty, a missed block, a missed assignment, a

929
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: bad quarterback throw, a bad read, a bad play call.

930
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: So I think when folks are like, it's all coaching, well,

931
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: it's partly coaching, it's all the quarterback. Well, it's partly

932
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback. What And again, you don't just stroll into

933
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Carolina and expect to punch those guys in the mouth.

934
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't, it doesn't happen. You fight, and we were close,

935
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: but we didn't bring it home. What I want to

936
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: see that I think is that needs to be a

937
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: little different when in twenty sixteen, when we were successful

938
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: and when we've played successful games since then, it's predicated

939
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: on and ahead of the chains, so that defenses can't

940
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: key on what we're going to do on second and

941
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: third downs correct because they've got enough film on Prescott

942
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: to know what he can and can't do, what he likes,

943
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: and what he doesn't. And so if coordinators on second

944
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: and third down can stop what's easy for him, it

945
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: creates problems. And one thing I didn't like was that

946
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: on early downs we run straight into the strength of

947
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: the Carolina front. True, and they've been running on first

948
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: down for three years. Yeah, that's what and we do it.

949
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: We do it more than anybody else in the league,

950
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: which is fine. And I think that with Travis Frederick

951
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: and maybe even a Ron Leary you can probably match

952
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: up with anybody. But with a serviceable Joe Looney and

953
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: a rookie Connor Williams, I don't know if it's the

954
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: same line. And so what I'd like to see is

955
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: more of that spread running attack on first down. So

956
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: because when you when you get in shotgun eleven, I

957
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: think you limit your options to the point where the

958
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: defense can say, well, let's make Dac throw to the

959
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: sideline and see if he can connect, versus being able

960
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: to run Zeke for a couple of yards. That makes

961
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: your second down more manageable, and that makes your third

962
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: down a position where you can say, all right, de coordinator,

963
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: are we running here or are we throwing? And that's

964
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: what we couldn't do against Carolina. You can't just run

965
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: it at Snacks Harrison next weekend and expect Looney and

966
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: Williams to be able to push him around like a

967
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Frederick and a Leary could in my opinion. Okay, and

968
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: so that's what I want to see. Good luck, guys,

969
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: enjoy the RESTA A right good call, Matt, Thanks, Ollie,

970
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: you're on board with all that, Mick. He makes a

971
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yeah, because I've been saying this for

972
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: two three years. You go two tight ends, go three

973
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: tight ends? What are you doing? You might as well

974
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: have one of those signs on the restaurant that says

975
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: eat eat. This one says are you and run? Yeah,

976
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: you know, blanking and stubborn. Yeah. Now I understand the

977
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: identity thing. We want to be physical, we want to

978
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: run the ball, but you don't have to tip your hand. Yeah,

979
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: So how about three tight ends, play action and throw

980
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: at eighty yards. I don't even care if it's incomplete. Yeah.

981
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: The Giants him, you'll do it. Giantsto down third and

982
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: one the other day and then they went they went

983
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: three wides, packed it and faked it and then throw

984
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: it down, threw it down the field, almost almost pulled

985
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: it all. Let me ask you guys this question, then,

986
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: does this team need to be more of a college

987
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: offense because they need do they need to go back

988
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: and do in the readoption stuff and just go ahead

989
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: and run Dak Prescott on the readoption stuff. And are

990
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: you going to really develop a quarterback that way or

991
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: you play into the strength of what you have right now?

992
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: My question makes sense. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if

993
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: you're trying to develop him as a pocket pass or

994
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: is that the wrong approach to take with this guy? Well,

995
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: I think for his longevity, That's what I'm saying. This

996
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: is this is better than I mean, are you gonna

997
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: are you are you wasting him trying to make him

998
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: a pocket passer or should you go ahead and say,

999
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: you know what I need to win games now? Yeah?

1000
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: And so but okay, so I understand what you're saying.

1001
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: But there's this this idea that when he gets outside

1002
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: the pocket and he's running, he throws the ball better. Well,

1003
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: that's not what happened with Blake Jarwin. No right, no

1004
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: help him. But I understand you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1005
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot of times when he's outside the pocket, he's

1006
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: not setting his feet and he's not throwing the ball accurately.

1007
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with the run option, the run option deals,

1008
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: mixing those in Okay, but not a steady diet of it. Okay,

1009
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying because I know who my backup

1010
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: quarterback is. That's but there we go again. If you

1011
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: play to his strength of him being a mobile quarterback,

1012
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: are you are? You are the risk? You run the

1013
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: risk and I want to But does that does that

1014
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: make the offense better? It does? I think it does

1015
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: because you do play to his strength. Coach John our

1016
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: Buddy and Lufkin tweeted that they he saw them read

1017
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: the run zone reads seven times in the game, but

1018
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Carolina snuffed it out and forced him to hand the

1019
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: ball off and sort of him discipline discipline defense. Yeah, well,

1020
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: but how did they score the touchdown? It was at

1021
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: an option option? Well, they got a good block on

1022
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: the outside, but no creative I'm yeah, I'm just here

1023
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: you go. I'm I'm just asking them. No, I see you?

1024
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: Are we are we asking? Are we? Are we sacrificing

1025
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott? Are we not? Are we not making Dak

1026
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: Prescott the best player he can be because we're asking

1027
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: to do something he's not capable of doing. I think

1028
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: he is. He is capable of doing what they're asking him.

1029
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: To do. The problem is these other variables meeting a

1030
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Carolina defense when under duress, It's it's very different. It's

1031
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: it's a difficult transition. If you're talking about making him

1032
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: a pocket passer, Okay, it's it's gotta it's gotta be

1033
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: baby steps as far as that goes, you know, it's

1034
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: he's got You got to incorporate both into the game plan.

1035
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, when you get yourself in second and seventeen

1036
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: run option done work, I understand. I'm just saying I'll say, yeah,

1037
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: hand it off there. Maybe on the first down run though,

1038
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: if it's not a penalley or not a sack or whatever.

1039
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: But if if it's a well, can they stay ahead

1040
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: of the Chaine with him playing read option football? Can

1041
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: they do they need to be a college offense? Were

1042
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: they a college offense in twenty sixteen? I think they

1043
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: had a little bit of that did? I think my

1044
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: question on that have defensive coordinators taken a lot of

1045
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: that stuff away now knowing that they that's what they

1046
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: like to do. Like for instance, there and I don't

1047
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: remember specifically when it was, there was it was either

1048
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: a waggle or a bootleg where the defensive end just

1049
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: crashed in on attack and he had no place to

1050
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: go and he threw it short to the tight end.

1051
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: He threw it in the ground on purpose. Right, Well,

1052
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: there was they had. There's a couple they tried to

1053
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: run ydloss or out, a couple of waggles where they didn't.

1054
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, Carolina's linebackers and safeties and Brian's talked about it.

1055
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: They did such a good ball job of flowing to

1056
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: the ball and just shutting down anything on the edge

1057
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: on the outside. Well, it's it's like they got to

1058
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: stay at home. Yeah, you know, and if they stay

1059
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: at home, so it Dallas did. Mickey's right, he read

1060
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: you the numbers. Once Dallas started playing a little bit

1061
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: better disciplined defense, they were able to kind of control.

1062
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: But I just okay, if if you need to, if

1063
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: you want to make Dak Prescott a better quarterback, do

1064
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: you play to his strings and that's let him run

1065
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: the ball and damn him getting hurt. I don't think

1066
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: you want a steady diet of it, because they will

1067
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: do what we saw in the game. They started cutting

1068
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: off that the rollouts, the reverse boot to the right

1069
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: throw on the run. Yeah, but they never really got running.

1070
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: And they only got running when they got into eleven personnel.

1071
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: So do you play eleven personnel? Forget the tight ends

1072
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: and just say okay, we're gonna spread you out. And Bill,

1073
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: you watch it every week at Oklahoma? How do they

1074
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: move the ball? Their quarterback runs the ball. I think

1075
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: he had ninety something yards rushing the other day in

1076
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: that game. Do you realize? And I looked when I

1077
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: saw this, Dack's quarterback rating was eighteenth. Yeah. After one week,

1078
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: there were sixteen quarterbacks in the league that had a

1079
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: worst a worse quarterback rating. Manning, car Roethlister, Ryan Foles,

1080
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: and Stafford were among those sixteen that played worst. Well,

1081
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: that was all losses too, By the way, give me

1082
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks again. Cars, Roethlisberger at tie, that's a loss

1083
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: because it was Cleveland, Bradford loss, Ryan loss Thursday Night

1084
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: falls one barely by the skin of their teeth, and

1085
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: Stafford got cream that might cost the head coaches job.

1086
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: I'll stop one game. Here we go. Well, what do

1087
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: you think these other cities are saying right now? No,

1088
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: how about the ones with the new coach? Then we're

1089
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: all fired up. Every one of them got their butts

1090
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: but I got you. But fans are looking back, they

1091
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of they don't know what they

1092
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: have in their skill positions teams for new coaches. I

1093
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: guess that team. That's why they're there right and there,

1094
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: and they're seeing continuation to some problems last year. And

1095
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: so look they Jason Garrett said, they gotta find a

1096
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: way to fix this and get some things offensively that

1097
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: they can go to they know will work. Yeah, hand

1098
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: the ball to Zeke, throw the ball to Beasley. There's

1099
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: your given. Dak run and Dak Ryan's all in on it.

1100
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why. No, I mean

1101
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: if offensively, if you you know, you might have to

1102
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: sacrifice to health your quarterback for this offense to run better.

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00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to do with

1104
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: while the defense is playing, like, are they over pursuing? Then? Okay,

1105
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: let me get them out there. That's how Cam made

1106
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: it work, right right, Yeah, full of a couple of

1107
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: times and the one and they planned on it. Cowboys

1108
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: were over gonna pursue, all right, over gonna pursue. We're

1109
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: gonna pursue. That's a good way to end it. You

1110
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: left Garoppolo off that list of quarterbacks too. Yeah, established

1111
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: financially Francisco turnaround year five and one. Now it's a starter,

1112
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: right for six and one, not anymore. Yeah, the NFL

1113
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: is a strange lady, right, Brian absolutely finding that out

1114
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Speaker 1: more and more. We'll see what the Cowboys do this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow though, to continue breaking things down. Bill,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back in the captain's chair. Thanks to Ken

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Speaker 1: for producing, and we'll see you guys on Thursday. This

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