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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: The food company Heines is partnering with Smoothie King to

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Speaker 2: offer the first ever Heinz Tomato ketchup smoothie and just

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Speaker 2: to guess here, also the last ever no black We're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, ketchup smoothies. No.

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Speaker 3: Why is there so much talk about the Moon this

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Speaker 3: week in various podcasts I'm listening to. I guess because

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Speaker 3: NASA announced likely we're going to need to put nuclear

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Speaker 3: reactors on the Moon to have available power for all

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Speaker 3: the things we want to do for them, launching to Mars,

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Speaker 3: among other things. But the conversation has begun about America

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Speaker 3: and colonialism and blah blah blah that I want to

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Speaker 4: H yeah, yeah, And we need to win and we

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Speaker 4: will and it's going to be exactly the idea. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'll save it for when we talk about it. I'm

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Speaker 4: pro dude, I misunderstand You're not You're against this. Well,

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: A couple of things want to get to, including the

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Speaker 5: you know, Israel Hamas situation. Eventually maybe next hour, a

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Speaker 5: collection of what Gavin Newsom is up to in California

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Speaker 5: as he continues to lust like is hot to trot seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Year old for the Oval office.

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Speaker 5: But first this, and it's appropriate, I think in the

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Speaker 5: wake of our discussion about Cincinnati and the police chief,

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Speaker 5: who is a woman who is promoting the vast majority

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Speaker 5: of women and minorities over men or white men, certainly

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Speaker 5: attempting to.

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Speaker 1: Build a DEI police force.

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Speaker 5: And the problem with that, and the insidious, sad part

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Speaker 5: of it is that and I didn't come up with

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Speaker 5: this idea. I learned it from great black men and

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Speaker 5: women thinkers. They hate it because everything they achieve is

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Speaker 5: now suspect. Oh you didn't get that fellowship. You're not

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Speaker 5: at the Hoover Institution because you're brilliant. It's because they

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Speaker 5: needed a black guy or whatever. It's terrible, it really is.

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Speaker 5: And I thought this was so interesting. Big new poll

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Speaker 5: is out and black and Hispanic Americans are more likely

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Speaker 5: than white Americans to believe that left wing DEI programs

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Speaker 5: quote end up increasing discrimination against people like them. According

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Speaker 5: to the AP, they did a joint poll with the

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Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise what's going on with that chunk of

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Speaker 3: white people. It's that George Bush came up with the term,

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Speaker 3: I believe the soft bigotry of law expectations and you

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Speaker 3: think you're doing something noble or nice, trying to help

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Speaker 3: the down fraud and who can't get by on their

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Speaker 3: own that.

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Speaker 5: I learned in college really need help because of systemic racism.

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Speaker 5: So we've got to combat the racism with more racism.

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Speaker 5: Robin DiAngelo taught me. I actually met her at a

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Speaker 5: seminar and then we had Ebermex Kendy in. He spoke

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Speaker 5: for an hour for three hundred thousand dollars, and they

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Speaker 5: taught us about systemic racism. And now I understand why

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Speaker 5: DEI is so important. Meanwhile, significant percentages of black and

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Speaker 5: brown people are.

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Speaker 1: Like stop it.

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Speaker 5: But the self congratulatory college educated white people, disproportionately women,

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Speaker 5: thing to do. So it's about forty percent of Black

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Speaker 5: adults and one third of Hispanic adults say DEI increases

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Speaker 5: discrimination against black people compared with one quarter of white adults.

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Speaker 5: So forty percent of black people and a little less

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Speaker 5: than a quarter of white people believe that this.

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Speaker 3: Is you know, I often say, name one thing that's

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Speaker 3: getting better, because I feel like everything is getting worse,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not far off. But I do think we're

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Speaker 3: going the right direction on all of this stuff, the

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, the bloom is definitely off the rows of

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Speaker 5: the woke agenda well, or it still endoors in media

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Speaker 3: Or even long before woke the idea of trying to

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Speaker 3: fix racism with more racism. I just think that's going away.

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Speaker 5: So just to take a quick look at the rest

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Speaker 5: all Americans, less than forty percent say DEI benefits the

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Speaker 5: minorities whom the policies are meant to help.

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Speaker 5: At least a quarter of Americans believe DEI actually increases

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Speaker 5: a very forceful and maybe like vicious, smallish percentage of

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Speaker 5: people who advocate strongly for particular point of view like DEI.

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Speaker 5: Say it's fifteen percent, and then you've got thirty or

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Speaker 5: forty percent at your workplace, in your school district, at

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Speaker 5: the hospital where you work, where you had to sit

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Speaker 5: down for these DEI trainings, thirty forty percent who are

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Speaker 5: just like, this is horsecrap. But I'm not saying a word.

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Speaker 5: And people look at that now, fifty five sixty percent total, right,

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Speaker 1: I'd better shut up.

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Speaker 5: Sure, but all along, as we've been trying to tell you,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of you knew again there's there's very

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Speaker 5: little support for this stuff. It's idiotic, it's corrosive, it's counterproductive,

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Speaker 5: and all DEI programs, wherever they exist, government, education, private enterprise.

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Speaker 5: End them today by cob that's close the business.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Exactly.

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Speaker 3: Trump put at the end of his truth social the

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Speaker 3: other day about what was it? It was something huge?

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Speaker 3: something major? It's like threatening war with Russia or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And then at the end, thank you for your attention

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Speaker 3: to this matter. I know it's just disire.

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Speaker 5: And then he tried it as a running joke for

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Speaker 3: So we we were talking a little bit ago about tuberculosis.

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Speaker 3: know tuberculosis is up around the country.

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Speaker 5: I prefer the term first people's gaming emporium, please.

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Speaker 3: Is that the tuberculosis comeback is mostly about our open borders,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so we has a little vaccine skepticism mixed in,

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Speaker 3: And whooping cough too well one of the reasons. So

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Speaker 3: the vaccine skepticism is just hitting at a bad time.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't matter if you were vaccinated against whooping cough

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Speaker 3: But now you're running into it all the time, Like

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Speaker 3: I ran into wooping cough and got very, very sick.

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Speaker 1: We got this text a nurse here. If you were

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Speaker 1: born in the United States, you were.

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Speaker 3: Not immunized against tb We stopped quite a few years

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Speaker 1: But if tuberculosis is running around, am I.

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Speaker 3: As susceptible to it as Doc Holiday was in eighteen eighty?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I catch it? Am I going to

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Speaker 1: get super duper sick.

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden was a villain in his administration. They weren't

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Speaker 5: bumbling in that they were villains doing this to the country.

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Speaker 3: And again, the timing is unfortunate that these diseases have

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Speaker 3: been re introduced to society at a time where you

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Speaker 1: Really wacky stories right about some very.

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Speaker 3: Long used vaccines like just more not like the COVID

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Speaker 3: vaccine that was introduced quickly and not a lot of

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Speaker 3: time to figure out long term effects or anything. Like

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Speaker 3: some of these vaccines have been around so.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I want to get into

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Speaker 5: this a little bit. I'm I'm pro vaxin. I'm not

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Speaker 5: anti vax I'm I guess you'd call me a conservative

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Speaker 5: on this issue, but I have sympathy for people who

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Speaker 5: that I will explain that may surprise you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look forward to that.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot more people than I realized that are

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Speaker 3: super against all the vaccinations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to get whooping cough. Ever again,

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Speaker 3: I think I'm immune to it now that I got

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Speaker 3: the sickest I've ever been in my life, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get tuberculosis either. We got more on the way,

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Speaker 3: including the Trump Putin meeting, which is being reported to

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Speaker 3: a bunch of places as likely to happen within days.

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Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 6: forget about it, Thanks God. Half Way up to pavilion,

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Speaker 3: When he was pitching, I didn't realize that his one

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Speaker 5: Really, so we're talking a little bit about the uh,

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Speaker 5: the whole vaccination anti vax thing, Jack, Did you want

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Speaker 1: The world of you and coupling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was told that on dating apps, we've heard

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Speaker 5: You know, in my opinion, all you people are nuts,

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Speaker 1: But they're lovely people.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think you'd want to sow look for so

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you do you So, I thought this was interesting

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Speaker 5: the early days of discussing this several years ago. One

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Speaker 5: of our beloved listeners pointed out to me that, hey, Joe,

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Speaker 5: your kids who are now in their twenties and or thirties,

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Speaker 5: when they were vaccinated, they got X number of shots.

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Speaker 1: Now it's you know, whatever it was.

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Speaker 5: It was two and a half times as many, a

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Speaker 1: And I thought, Wow, that's a hell of a lot

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Speaker 5: Piece in the Wall Street Journal about what's the headline?

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Speaker 5: With RFA Junior on their side, parents feel emboldened to

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Speaker 1: Is now Nikes, Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there a reality where like we're this planet is

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Speaker 3: That's one of the most prominent scientists in America, Neil

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Speaker 3: Also, while he's one of the most prominent scientists in America,

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So the conversation went this direction, is you're about

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Speaker 8: So, so is that the moon because A I don't

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Speaker 8: Will it serve as a functional life source eventually for

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Speaker 7: they would be the next place you might put people.

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Speaker 7: But I don't see it as a It makes a

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Speaker 3: Is there in me?

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Speaker 5: He was polite about it, but essentially he said, that's

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Speaker 5: Exactly where you are in the year five thousand BC.

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Speaker 3: What sort of agreement were people's going to have as

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Speaker 3: In your mind, how was that going to play out?

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Speaker 3: It makes me mad that there's no pushback and they

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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's an entry in the Oxford

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Speaker 1: Kah.

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Speaker 3: People get away with saying that sort of crap all

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Speaker 5: It's tribal signaling, that's all. It is, dumb masquerading as ideas.

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Speaker 5: But now getting to the Moon stuff, that's where we're headed.

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Speaker 5: So what they mentioned there, I should have set it

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Speaker 5: That's a message to China, and how do you enforce that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the rules on the moon, the rules of

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Speaker 5: Well, we know how the age of colonialism went on Earth.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've got the cure for this. It's funny.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's asked me, and it's fairly simple. There will be

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Speaker 3: That settles it. Anybody want to take our moon, come

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Speaker 1: United States and Moon of America.

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Speaker 3: But this is happening. How in the world do people

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Speaker 1: My only disagreement is that and I can't see.

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Speaker 5: I can't see next week, much less five thousand years

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Speaker 5: in the future. But every square inch of Earth is

442
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Speaker 5: a real exaggeration because Greenland, for instance, that has amazing resources,

443
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Speaker 5: but it's just so forbidding and expensive to extract them.

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Speaker 1: Nobody has.

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Speaker 5: And the only way the Moon doesn't turn out the

446
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Speaker 5: way you're talking about is if it's it's the same

447
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Speaker 5: you know results, Yeah, there's stuff there, but it's just

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Speaker 5: it doesn't make any sense to get it.

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Speaker 3: But the two countries that are going to try the

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Speaker 3: hardest are the two most powerful countries that you know,

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Speaker 3: with the two biggest economies on the planet. And so,

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Speaker 3: but we since we're already here on planet Earth and

453
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Speaker 3: we can battle it out here, I suppose that's where

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Speaker 3: it'll get decided as opposed.

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Speaker 1: To on the Moon, right or maybe not, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we start to build a nuke reactor, we have

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Speaker 3: our keep out sign. China goes up there and just

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Speaker 3: goes right into that area, like okay, now, what are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do about it.

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Speaker 1: Which is you know, playing out what happens on Earth.

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Speaker 5: They say there's no, uh, you can't come into the

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Speaker 5: South China see, and we say, yeah, yeah we can,

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Speaker 5: and we send all our ships through there, and they

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Speaker 5: would say, yeah, we want free navigation of the Moon.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we're gonna, in fact, we're gonna go sit

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Speaker 5: on your nuclear reactor and pick our teeth for a while.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to a story yesterday about the whole

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Speaker 3: rare earth minerals. How how is this a term that's

470
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Speaker 3: like just entered the world in the last six months

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Speaker 3: for most people. I mean, it's a fairly new conversation.

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Speaker 3: But it turns out there are all these things, and

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Speaker 3: some of it is computer technology demands these rare earths

474
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Speaker 3: that we didn't need before, But it turns out China

475
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Speaker 3: has got a ton of it. All my life, I've

476
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Speaker 3: been hearing about the great you know, was it Providence,

477
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Speaker 3: was it God?

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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Speaker 3: The democracy and freedom landed in the United States, a

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Speaker 3: giant country with oceans on each side to protect it

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Speaker 3: and unbelievable natural resources when coil and oil and timber

482
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Speaker 3: were the main things you needed. But it turns out

483
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Speaker 3: the stuff you need now, China's got most of it,

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Speaker 3: and they're producing ninety percent of most of the rare

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Speaker 3: earths that are needed for all your different kinds of

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Speaker 3: computer chips and all these different sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: This is a proatteries. This is a serious problem.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And every so often there's another headline the

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Speaker 5: other day they're choking off the supply, partly because our

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Speaker 5: military is desperate for this stuff. We are in such

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Speaker 5: a vulnerable position vis a v you know, the rare

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Speaker 5: earths and the minerals we need and China's control of them.

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Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's all kinds of stuff on the Moon that

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Speaker 3: if we can extract it at a cost that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I suppose that will be very valuable. And to think

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Speaker 3: that we're when space exploration got started, first of all,

498
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Speaker 3: it was only us in the Russians a little bit,

499
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Speaker 3: so you couldn't have much conflict. And then you know,

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Speaker 3: you had the space station, and what a deal it

501
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Speaker 3: was when you had US astronauts crawling across and shaking

502
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Speaker 3: hands with the evil Soviets and all that.

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Speaker 1: Sort of stuff. But there was like this.

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Speaker 3: Haze around space exploration that the rules of human nature

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Speaker 3: didn't apply in space and never.

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Speaker 1: On, which is just silly, right, Yeah, I agreed.

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Speaker 5: Well, and we haven't even talked about the nuclear reactor

508
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Speaker 5: on the moon really, other than a passing reference that

509
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Speaker 5: seems to be the go to energy source of choice,

510
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Speaker 5: and that'd be a fascinating thing to have, you know,

511
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Speaker 5: decades worth of ready energy to power whatever we wanted.

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Speaker 5: The moon, you know, as a springboard of the stars

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Speaker 5: and Mars and beyond. That's an incredibly valuable use of

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Speaker 5: that real estate, never mind rarer earth metals or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize how much water's on the Moon. Remember

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Speaker 3: when they discovered there was water on the moon what not,

517
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Speaker 3: like three years ago. That was such a huge giant

518
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Speaker 3: development to figure out there's water on the mood a

519
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Speaker 3: molecule of water. Now they're gazillions of gallons of water

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Speaker 3: on the moon seie.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, better for cocktails moon cocktails anyway.

522
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Speaker 3: And you can use that with the nuclear reactors and

523
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Speaker 3: everything you need to or extract stuff from the water.

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Speaker 5: So I'm putting out two albums at once, like you know,

525
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Speaker 5: like a prince would do or Bruce Springsteen.

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Speaker 1: One is Nuke the Moon's Punk Album.

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Speaker 5: The other is what was that style of music that

528
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Speaker 5: was big like in the nineties, like Enya?

529
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Speaker 1: Was that real atmospheric what was the term for that?

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Speaker 1: You remember that.

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Speaker 5: Because my my album and that genre is Springboard that Stars.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's a good descriptory age new Age.

533
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Speaker 5: I think that is it. Yeah, that's my New Age album,

534
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Speaker 5: Springboard to the Stars, very calming, flowing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I want to honor an anniversary when we come back,

536
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Speaker 3: a self serving anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll get into all right.

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Speaker 3: Apple claims it's going to invest another one hundred billion

539
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Speaker 3: dollars in US manufacturing and gave Trump a great big

540
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Speaker 3: plaque yesterday to try to get a little heat of

541
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Speaker 3: the tariffs off of them. But yes, that's one of

542
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Speaker 3: the problems with the whole tariff thing. As I've learned

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Speaker 3: since we've all become semi experts in terrorists tariffs, as

544
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Speaker 3: we've looked into it. The problem with tariff's way back

545
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Speaker 3: in the day in the United States was it lends

546
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Speaker 3: itself to so much corruption to where you can favor

547
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Speaker 3: this company or that company based on whether they do

548
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Speaker 3: what you want them to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, winners.

550
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Speaker 3: And losers, the winners and losers. Right, Apple's trying to

551
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Speaker 3: be a winner. But we got all kinds of stuff

552
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Speaker 3: on the waist.

553
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Speaker 1: To hear.

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Speaker 9: A naked man wearing nothing but a black gimp mask

555
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Speaker 9: and sneakers was caught on video prowling the streets of

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Speaker 9: a quiet town in England. You know, maybe I'm getting old,

557
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Speaker 9: but I can remember a time when brit Hume spent

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Speaker 9: his vacation in the Hamptons.

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Speaker 5: Wow, was Greg gutt Felt just suggesting that the naked

560
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Speaker 5: gimp mask sporting fellow was Frick Hume.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, odd situation.

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Speaker 3: I just want to mention this because if we've gotten

563
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Speaker 3: texts or emails over the years that people said they

564
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Speaker 3: had helped them in their lives, so I'll mention it

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Speaker 3: again this year. It is nineteen ten years since I

566
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Speaker 3: have had a drink of alcohol. I am an alcoholic

567
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Speaker 3: and it has been nineteen years. And it can You

568
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Speaker 3: can do that too. You have to make it the

569
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Speaker 3: most important thing in your life is my experience. It

570
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Speaker 3: has to be the highest priority among everything, including your

571
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Speaker 3: children or your job or anything else. As they say,

572
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Speaker 3: in the world of trying to stay sober, anything you

573
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Speaker 3: put ahead of sobriety you will lose. So that's my suggestion,

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Speaker 3: and it can be done.

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Speaker 1: That's enough of that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's say, yeah, go ahead, there's more of that. Nope, okay,

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Speaker 5: I thought you're still talking. Ah, so I can't decide

578
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Speaker 5: whether to go a hard newsy relevant. I've got some

579
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Speaker 5: Gavin Knew, someome kicking to do. I wanted to do

580
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Speaker 5: my teeth. That's what I was starting to say.

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Speaker 1: Deserved For the next hour.

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Speaker 3: I just came across some fantastic Epstein stuff and I'm

583
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Speaker 3: the last person would sell it's not at all. It's

584
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Speaker 3: not about the files or trials would It's just another

585
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Speaker 3: glimpse from another person, another poor victim, who has done

586
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Speaker 3: an interview about what the whole Epstein lifestyle thing was like.

587
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: And it's pretty damned interesting. So a couple of stories.

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Speaker 3: First of all, we ran out of time yesterday. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: I was talking about how England is in terrible shape

590
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Speaker 5: the UK, that some people think the regime of.

591
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Speaker 1: The Labor and.

592
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Speaker 5: Tory Party, the whole swamp of Britain's about to fall

593
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Speaker 5: apart because there's so much anger over the rampant, unchecked

594
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Speaker 5: immigration into Britain and there's you know, anger building.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't get to one of my favorite parts

597
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Speaker 5: of this essay.

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Speaker 1: The guy says.

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Speaker 5: The Times London cartoon from July twenty fifth showed female

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Speaker 5: protesters waving homemade placards with slogans such as we're not

601
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Speaker 5: far right, We're worried about our kids, and British people

602
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: before boat people, and Dominic Green writes they stand on

603
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Speaker 5: a thin crust of earth below a skinhead ogre with

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Speaker 5: hate tattooed on his knuckles and made in England, and

605
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Speaker 5: a Saint George's cross tattooed on his shoulder. The ogre

606
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Speaker 5: arises the stubble of his buzz cut has already broken

607
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Speaker 5: through the surface and could be mistaken for the grass

608
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Speaker 5: of Bell Common, a very British reference there. The little

609
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Speaker 5: women have no idea that they have wakened an evil

610
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Speaker 5: giant across the country. The English giant has awakened on

611
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Speaker 5: the streets. No political party, older, New Left or right,

612
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Speaker 5: has a serious plan for how to placate it and

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Speaker 5: restore the social contract. The language of censure can no

614
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: longer silence it. The recourse to censorship will enrage it further. Wow,

615
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Speaker 5: and he's talking about the grooming and rape gangs. And

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Speaker 5: it's specifically this article is about Epping, England in the

617
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Speaker 5: Bell Hotel, which was housing a bunch of migrant asylum

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Speaker 5: seeking Africans who had crossed four or five safe country

619
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Speaker 5: and had arrived in England because of what they were

620
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Speaker 5: told were the country's generous welfare provisions and how England

621
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Speaker 5: is getting madder and madder and matter anyway, We'll have

622
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Speaker 5: to see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: God, i'd say.

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Speaker 3: And then you combine it with the thing I'm always

625
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Speaker 3: talking about that nobody ever mentions is. It's a normal reaction,

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Speaker 3: I think, to just not want things to change from

627
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Speaker 3: the way they were when you were.

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Speaker 1: A kid, that's just a normal reaction.

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Speaker 5: And if they're demonstrably worse right, or they're worse to

630
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Speaker 5: the point that your daughters are getting raped, or their

631
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Speaker 5: worse to the point that an extremist political slash religious

632
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Speaker 5: movement is changing everything about your culture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are going to react very very badly. We

634
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Speaker 1: just got this text.

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Speaker 3: I won't finish it because maybe I'll get to a

636
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Speaker 3: next hour, But it starts with Jack Armstrong. You are

637
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: the most ignorant, ill informed pie hole on radio. I

638
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: wonder what topic that is. We'll get to it next hour.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's good to be you know the best. If

640
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Speaker 5: something my texts went through, I just like to be noticed. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 5: let's see my final thought, I guess someone on that topic.

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Speaker 5: Tom Cotton, Senator, is petitioning the IRS to formally investigate

643
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Speaker 5: the Council on American Islamic Relations CARE for violations of

644
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Speaker 5: its tax exempt status, citing quote ties to terrorist organizations

645
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Speaker 5: concluding Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. According to a formal

646
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Speaker 5: letter sent Tuesday and obtained by the Washington Free Beacon,

647
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Speaker 5: this could absolutely happen.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Cotton, who's the.

649
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Speaker 5: Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. He's not

650
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Speaker 5: some sort of Marjorie Taylor green bomb chucking backbencher. He's

651
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: a very very serious man. Says that CARES deep tized

652
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Speaker 5: terrorist organizations weren't immediate IRS investigation to determine if the

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Speaker 5: group is in compliance with Section five to one c

654
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Speaker 5: three of the tax Code, which governs nonprofits. There's more

655
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Speaker 5: to this, but that's the long short of it. Really

656
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Speaker 5: interesting to see where this goes.

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Speaker 1: Power four is going to be great.

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Speaker 3: And then we have the One More Thing podcast, so

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