WEBVTT - SEASON 2 HIGHLIGHTS 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.120 Hi again and welcome to the Highlights for a season 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.360 two of this podcast. Man, this was a fun season 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.240 to put together, and we really appreciate all the nice feedback. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.920 We did not start out with a coherent plan. That's 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.720 pretty typical. It just worked out that this season featured 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.920 some of my favorite people, old friends, telling stories, sharing 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.600 insights and wisdom. People like Cheryl Crow, Matthew McConaughey, Clinton, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.120 Kelly Eddie, George Kirk, curb Street and the Bear, Chris Felika, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:36.879 Mike Terriko, Mike Mills, Brian Coppelman, Bob Woodruff. We had 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.479 fun throughout. It was a challenge to listen to all 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.920 these episodes and pick out just these highlights, but I 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.120 think you're gonna enjoy it. Any one of those books 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.239 could have been in lead up position, but we went 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.080 with Mr McConaughey and the Art of Living. His stories 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:57.600 and wisdom and revelations and prescriptions and confessions and adventures 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:03.360 are truly unique. He talked about a solo trip down 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.600 the Amazon when he was at a crossroads in his 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.399 life and had a very profound experience alone in the jungle. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.640 It was about day twelve actually, and no that was 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.480 that was there's nothing outside of my body of anything. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.720 It was a purge of getting everything out and there 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.120 was no There was no ayahuasca, no peyote involved in it. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.240 It was me and me. UM twelve days into a 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.759 trip that was a solo journey of my own, and 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.440 a trip that the first twelve days I was not 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.440 enjoying my company. I was not able to be present. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.039 I didn't like where my mind was going. I was 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.560 feeling guilt, I was feeling shame. I was feeling like 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.600 sins of action, sins of the mind. I didn't know 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.800 where I was going in life or or what my 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.560 track was. UM my mind was in a low place, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.600 and again in I felt like that was okay. Endure this, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.040 endure this, and I put myself into place so far 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.120 out that I didn't have like the Australian tip. I 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.120 didn't have the parachute to pool. I was out there. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.160 I was like, No, you're gonna you're You're gonna sweat 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.280 this out and you're gonna go through this in a 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.000 bad day twelve And this has happened to me multiple times. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.480 A bat day twelve, I wake up and I have 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.120 a purge. I've I've I've thrown up, I've gotten rid 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.960 of every talisman that I've that defined me. I wake 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.760 up and I go for this walk, and I'm feeling 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.160 present for the first time, and all of a sudden, 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.440 I'm seeing the light and I'm forgiving myself for certain 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.120 things I should forgive myself. I've I've shaken hands with 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.600 myself about things. Hey, buck stops here on that. We're 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.040 not gonna keep doing that one. We're changing, We're gonna 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.280 evolve as a as a young man. And I came 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.360 across that story, that that that whole huge blue neon 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.120 blue floor on the jungle floor, which when it moved 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.440 turned out to be ten two thousands of butterflies. And 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.080 that's when I first found the Amazon. That's why I 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.360 went for that swim in the Amazon, to go put 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.480 myself in the place that I that was actually in 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.359 that eleven second dream I had, which I had now 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.360 had for the second time, which is what got me 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:09.080 to peru Um and the rest of that trip. The 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.000 next say, they're twenty two days. The next ten days 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.880 were glorious. I was present, I was being fair with myself, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.160 I had forgiven myself. I was seeing the beauty all 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.639 around me. Everything I wanted was what I could see, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.160 and what could I could see was right in front 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.560 of me. It was simple. I was present. People call 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.920 it zen whatever I had found that learned some lessons 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.840 there about we gotta put ourselves in a position to 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.720 hear the truth cross us. It's hard with all the 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.800 stimuli and frequency all around us all the time. When 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.720 can you When can you have you give yourself a 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.760 little forced winter of quiet solitude where you may not 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.000 like the company. And that's good because hanging there until 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.760 you do like the company, because there's only one s O. B. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:57.080 We can't get rid of us there the only person 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.200 we can't we you know, there's only one person that 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.280 we're like, well, I'm stuck with you no matter what. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.720 And so that's what that that's to happen on that trip. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.880 And then it happened again three years later when I 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.480 had the exact same dream again and went off to Africa. Yes, 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.640 it's also in the episode of the story about Matthew's 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.720 trip to Molly and the wrestling match against the Village Champion, 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.599 And I thought about what Matthew says is the moral 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.440 of that story a lot since we recorded the episode, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.359 and he says that if you rise to meet a 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:29.440 significant challenge, you've already won. The outcome doesn't matter. Rising 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.600 to meet the challenge is a victory in and of itself. 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.000 I like that a lot. We also talked about his 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.920 film career and a lesson that Matthew had to learn 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.400 the hard way early on. There's a great story in 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.880 there about how I embarrassed myself from lack of preparation 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.160 um and did not prepare for a scene on purpose, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.120 thinking my bright idea was that I am nothing but 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.000 an extincial, instinctial actor. I don't need to study the lines. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.719 My career started days confused, and I just improv to 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.080 all that ship. Man, here, let's do it again, and 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.200 not when you got a four page monologue in Spanish 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.000 put in front of you that you didn't know it 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.800 was gonna be there. Oh jees o, man, I remember 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.680 the beat of sweat going on the back of my neck, going, 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.080 oh my, you said you took a twelve minute walk 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.720 and prep Did you really come back and know that 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:18.200 ship in twelve minutes in Spanish? Hell? No, I mean 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.800 twelve I remember, I see twelve minutes? Can I get 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:25.279 twelve minutes my mind thinking, oh, that's enough time not 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.560 to be inconsiderate to the crew who's ready to go. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.599 But maybe it's also enough time to learn a four 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.800 page monologue in Spanish, because hey, I took Spanish first 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.400 semester in the eleventh grade. Well look it was not true. No. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:40.479 I came back and I don't know what kind of 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.880 hacked up spanglish crap I did, but I did something 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.680 and it embarrassed the hell out of me, and I said, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.880 I never want to feel that again. And from that 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.080 day on I learned that value of preparation. And now 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.600 I tried to come in you know, even a preparation. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.000 If I get come like I got it. I got it, 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.720 I got it. I'm like, when maybe you need to 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.279 look at an even more different way because I don't 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.400 want to I want to go into I don't know 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.600 about you, but I want to go to the set 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.920 every day having the right kind of butterflies going all right, man, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.279 I'm m I'm catching my breath here. This is good. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.440 I don't want to feel like, dude, whatever, I got it. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.359 We know each other basically through Texas football. Um first 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.400 met at a at a Longhorn game game day was there. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.120 There's one memorable game where Texas beach Nebraska. It's the 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.239 Top five showdown. It's a it's a massive party in Austin. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.560 We got done with our work. We were invited to 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.880 join you at a saloon if you're choosing, in downtown 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.359 Austin to begin the postgame celebration, which we did. But 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.400 then they said, you don't have to go home, but 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.560 you gotta get out of here. You you graciously invited 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.919 us to continue the party along with others at your house. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.440 We saw a yellow light and which the yellow light 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.680 was responsibility and an early flight. And I don't know, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.240 I'm not a man of regrets, but damn I mean, 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.680 and we had seen a green light there. That was 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.919 the infamous beginning of the thirty two and a half 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.040 hour bender that ended with the story that all of 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:09.440 America knows. Man. Yes. So it wasn't that night that 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.480 I decided to get neck and play congas in my 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:18.760 birthday suit. It even wasn't the next night. It was 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:23.240 two thirty six am the Monday morning, and I had 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.600 not gone down yet. I was still celebrating our great 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.480 victory when I decided to make some music with myself 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.560 and wine donned down. Figured it was time to lay 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.240 it on down and get some sleep. But before so, 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.240 let me have a good jam session. Well, I had 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.280 left a window open. Neighbor heard it, called the cops. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.480 They came in. I resisted pretty heavily, and yes, that 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.240 was uh. I mean I we would definitely, definitely not 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.160 hung around till the next night, the next night, the 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:50.600 next morning. But I mean I was, like part of 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.680 me wanted to say, damn, I was there at the 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:57.000 be at least at the beginning. That was a fun 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.600 seventy four minutes with Matthew, lots of stories and of 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.080 course the Naked Congo's story. When I did not see 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:09.000 one of life's green lights to quote matthews book title, uh, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.880 and chose to exercise prudence. And you can tell I 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.720 regret it a little bit now, my colleague of twenty 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.400 five college football seasons. If you can believe that Kirk 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.840 herb Street was also there in the early stages of 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.640 McConaughey's Naked Congo's Night also peeled away, of course, but 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.160 Kirk and the Bear Chris Felika got together for episode 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.640 one of the season to relive stories from four hundred 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:40.520 fall saturdays together. It's incredible, including Kirk's first year on 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.280 game day and what should have been a celebratory return 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:48.200 to Ohio State but almost never happened. The only memory 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:54.360 I have is waking up Saturday morning, fourth week of 0:08:54.480 --> 0:09:01.320 my career, and being terrified that I'd been out way 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.200 too late and you made me have way too many 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:10.320 drinks and I I couldn't really, I was just like, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.760 I don't even want to go. I'm good. I was 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:22.160 not gonna go. Alice rescued you man. One of the 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.040 great careers in sports broadcasting almost got like cut short 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.800 in a week four of year one. Listen to this, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.679 I somehow bang I make it into the r O 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.640 t C Building next to next to St. John's arena. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.040 You guys have no idea what's going on? My sunglasses 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:42.920 on some idea. I had some idea, But you're going, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.160 you know, you and Becker are arguing about something, and 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.599 I'm my stomach is like not feeling good, and I'm 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.760 trying to like keep it together, trying not to get 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.880 fired just because of the way I am in the meeting. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.920 So I'm just holding on for dear life going through 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.360 this little production meeting before our show starts on Saturday, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.200 and in the middle know of it, ran down the 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:07.800 hallway and just got sick, really bad for a long time, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.080 and I was pale white, like I was banged up. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.920 I had Bama Dave bring me. He brought me a Bama. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.360 Dave was one of the guys on our crew. A 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.080 game day, he was worried about me. He brought this 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.280 trash can for me, and he put it just to 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.679 the left of my seat during the show, so if 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.240 I have to vomit during the show, at least I 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.200 had a trash can to turn my head over to 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.200 and and throw up during the show. Thank god, the 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.640 show was an hour back then. Thank total pro, total pro. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.800 Remember the first time we swung the camera around and 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.880 like the Bears now an icon. But but he was 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.959 a valuable part of the team, but not in front 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.280 of the camera. Was it your idea? What we all 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.000 of a sudden we're sitting over there and we're like, 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:56.240 there's a lull or something. It was his calves. I 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:01.720 wanted to shoot the calves, like wait that that that 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.400 was the whole impetus for you. Let's let's show his calves, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.600 not his calves are like that big and he had 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.319 shorts on, and I, you know, that's when we used 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.680 to just a lot of times with fitting in the chair, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.080 we get off the rails, and he loved it. He 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.720 encouraged it. So I hit talk back and I was like, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.040 you gotta you gotta get the camera on bears calves. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.600 I'm gonna say something. He goes, oh, that's great, that's great, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.760 bring the camera over to his calves, and I just 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.960 started talking about bears calves and I'm just like, look 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.400 at this. No, I forgot about the calves part. Bear, 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.040 I knew, I knew you. I thought we were gonna 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:42.199 talk some football, but then think about from one calf 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:47.000 cutaway comes the empire. That is the exactly it's really 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.520 the former offensive lineman at me now, Kirk Bear and 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.840 I also spoke plenty about our dear friend Mike colleague 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.640 in college game day for twenty five years. The Corsow 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.480 coming up there is the blooper for the Ages and Houston, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.400 but also the story of how Lee recovered from a 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.200 stroke somehow after being robbed of the ability to speak 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.600 in spring of two thousand nine, after arduous work in 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.080 three and a half months he was ready for the 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.600 season debut of Game Day that fall. It's a really 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.520 powerful moment and we we we all have such you know, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.720 deep love and affection for him and respect for him, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.000 learned so much from him. When he had the stroke. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.200 I thought that was one of the most courageous things 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.880 that anybody's done. A guy who spoke so effortlessly he was, 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.280 it was so natural, and he was such a great 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.920 ad lib and to be robbed at that And the 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.120 first show back after his stroke, and this wasn't that 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.000 many months, and he had gone to speech therapy that 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.600 he says is the hardest thing he's ever had to 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.320 do to relearn how to speak. And we weren't sure 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.400 if the gears were gonna mesh when the light went on. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.360 And this season debut of the show is in Atlanta, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.440 and we're outside and there's a big crowd around, and 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.280 I think all of us were so anxious and holding 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.000 our breath, and how is this gonna go for him? 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.480 Is he going to be uncomfortable? Is he going to 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:06.360 be able to get the words out? And And that 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.400 was I think a two hour show at that point, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.800 and the fact that he was able to get through 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.680 that and it got better and better from from that 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.400 point on. That year. Uh god, I just remember the 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.520 tension Kirk, you know, just loving this guy so much 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.560 and just hoping things are gonna go okay. Yeah, totally. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.240 I can remember like it was yesterday, I mean really 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:31.079 to me, when he had his stroke and he was determined. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.800 Nobody was like, are you sure you're okay? And he 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.439 wasn't letting anybody stop him from getting back to that show. 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.720 And his motivation was his love for that job, his 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.760 love for that show, his love for the sport and 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.000 what he had become, you know, within the sport, and 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.880 he was not going to be slowed down. People asked 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.079 the time, I'll tell the story about else and Houston 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:57.000 and the f bomb. At this point, it's well established 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.400 he's gonna put the headgear and picked the team. And 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.480 at this point, Kirk he had already was he had 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.120 already perfected the fake left go right things. So he 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.040 was gonna build up one team and then picked the 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.480 other team. SMU has got no chance in this. I mean, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.960 there's no way they're gonna win in Houston. That Cougar 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.760 has had a great team. They're scoring fifty points. A game, uh, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.640 and and they're working to stop him. But he tried 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.400 to build up SMU and he was looking look at 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.320 that red, white and blue. Look at that sm You 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.000 look at what a team? What? And he was trying 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.560 to kind of take the audience in one direction. The 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.920 director wasn't getting it, and he was a great director, 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.480 but he wasn't cutting all the things that Lee was talking. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.480 He wasn't building up SMU. So there was that, and 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.080 that's what kind of frustrated him and he finally figured 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.800 enough of this ruse and that's when he just said, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.440 fuck it, give me that Houston and he put on 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.600 the Houston hat. And Carl Lewis was the guest picker. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.040 They're kind of falling over and um, I put my 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.400 head down. You shoved your chair away. You you you 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.400 instinctively you had to distance yourself. I didn't even know 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.880 what I I think I threw a pen in the air. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.320 I remember Carl Lewis going. He leaned over in the 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.520 midst of that chaos, and he goes to me. He's 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.360 like he looked at me. He's like a good thing. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:16.440 We're on delay. And I was like, yeah, you look, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.840 you looked at the mascot. You look, you looked, you 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.400 opened the cougar's mouth and like looked in there, and 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.680 it was very I mean all of us that you know, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:28.560 something like that is like possible on live television, but 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.440 they had never happened before, so I was kind of 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.720 the funnier ac. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the best part 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.240 of it. When we were we had about a seven 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.400 hour flight to Eugene for USC Oregon that night. That 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.040 that's the best part of the story, where we get 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.120 to Eugene. Kirk, Yeah, we we land in Eugene. Well, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:50.920 first of all, ESPN makes him, uh, issue an apology? 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.400 How did that? He? Fitting comes out? Everyone's hi. You know, 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:56.800 at the end of the game day, we're always like, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.720 good show, that was fun, that was fine, good job, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.240 And then Fitting comes out. He's like, coach, good job, 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.040 that was great. Listen real quick, hey, he kind of said, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.880 He goes, what what what? What? What you you said 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.080 the f fort he goes, so what he well, I 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.600 can't really say that on TV. So we've written out 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.920 this three sentences just saying your apology and let's look 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.320 into the camera. Goes okay, no problem. He looks into 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.760 the camera. He's like earlier today on college game day, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.280 I said something I shouldn't have for that reason, I'm 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:29.000 very very sorry doing like we're doing a coke commercial 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:33.280 like he does, like his home home depot, you know, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.760 and we're all, he's just so innocent with this. We're like, coach, 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.960 I was great, that was great. Good good On the 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.560 back end this time, how about we just don't smile. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.000 How about we just kind of look, you know, just 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.720 looking at the camera. He's like, okay, good good. So 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.160 he does that, or we get through that. By now 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.600 all of America's you know, googling Lee Corso, F bomb 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.720 and all this. And we fly. We fly all the 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.280 way out to Eugene. We land. As soon as our land, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.440 the U S see a good U s c. P. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.720 Carroll team against Oregon and Chip Kelly. We get out 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.840 of the plane, go into the FBO stop in use 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.879 a quick bathroom, and as we're coming out, this guy, 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.159 he looks like he's driving like a driver, says, hey, um, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.080 you do you mind if Phil Knights says hello real quick, 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.800 he's he's on his way over. He just landed. He's 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.919 on his way because we saw his plane when we landed. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.240 But we didn't realize he was there. So, yeah, he 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.960 wants to say hello real quick. Yeah, because we met 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.719 him a few times on game day, no problem. So 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.960 as we're walking out to get to our car, Phil 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.000 Knight's big r V. He comes jogging down the stairs. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.639 You can see him, comes jogging over to us, and 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.520 he's like, he high fives me, and he's like, manly Corso, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.880 I can't believe that. S ob he's my hero. I can't, man, 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.240 what was what happened? Tell me? I mean he want 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.439 to sit there and hear all about it. He was 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.040 so like fired up, you know. And then I'm like, man, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.440 you know, everyone's like because before we got to there, 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.440 everyone's like he might be is he gonna get suspended? 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.480 You know, would they fire him all? You know, that's 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.119 the all the talk. Then we then we drive the stadium. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.560 We get in there, Lane kill it was Lane Kiffin. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.440 Actually he was over. He says something to me about man. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.600 Of course, so I can't believe it. And then Chip 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.080 Kelly literally is at the other into the stadium. He's 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:26.119 the's me at the other twenty walking towards the fifty. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:31.800 I'm talking white visor, all black outfit, full sprint over 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.760 to me and Darren to like, high five us and 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.320 tackle us, and he wants to hear about it. I'm 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.760 just like Lee course is the only guy that can 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.760 see the F bomb and his his Q rating goes up. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.320 Kirk and the Baron I could have sat around for 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.400 three or four hours and told stories. There's so much 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.440 in the episode. If you've enjoyed college game day at 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.720 all over the years, I think you'll enjoy going along 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.480 for the ride. Also should tell you that Kirk has 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.120 a new book coming out out the Pocket, very good, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.879 very powerful read. Now. Almost as important to me throughout 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.520 my life as the power of sports has been the 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.160 power of music. I love this topic and I love 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:16.119 visiting with a musical legend and dear friend, Cheryl Crowe. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.000 We talked a lot about her life in her career, 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.840 but also about the power of music to connect us, 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.600 unite us, inspire us, heal us, and transport us back 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:30.680 to a very specific time and place. Well, my kids 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.720 say I was born in the Jurassic period, and that's 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.440 probably is true. You know, It's funny. I think about that, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.000 and I think, are my kid's going to have that 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.600 same relationship when they hear like a post alone song 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:45.560 song where they can actually, you know, completely envisioned where 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.199 where they were when they heard it. For me, like 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.679 I can hear Baker Street by Jerry Rafferty, and I 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:54.280 can smell Mike Brown's bucket seats in his Monte Carlo, 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.199 you know, and I can envision sitting at the Dairy 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.680 Queen hot August night. Um, I can hear I Want 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.240 to Be Your Lover by Prince and thinking I was 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:09.359 listening to like porn um at a track meet in uh, 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.680 you know, when I was a freshman in high school. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.639 You know, I want to Be Your Lover? Was? I 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.399 mean that was risque. I mean it's nothing like whop 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:19.440 you know, which I'm trying to like keep my kids 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:24.880 from seeing or hearing. And Yeah, music, I I think 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.159 about it um a lot when I think about Carlos 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.200 Santana in a hotel lobby once saying, you know, I 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.320 watched your show girl. You really know how to are 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.040 you really change the molecules in the room. And I've 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.480 always thought about that because I do think that music 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.880 is a physical experience where you know, all the science 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.159 and all the studies they've done around meditation and around 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.639 music and how it changes the shape of the cell 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:57.640 um and how it can create a physical, uh, really 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.240 a physical reaction. And I do leave that. I want 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.200 to go to the Michael Jackson because it's amazing that 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.520 that was your that was your first record, and then 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:10.439 you began to sort of experience the power of music 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.560 on this incredibly large scale when you're singing back up 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.520 on that tour and and and singing. Um, I just 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.080 can't stop loving you a duet or now the focus 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.879