00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineker. I hope you're having a nice day or afternoon or evening. I mean I should have, you know, I should have given a little more thought to what I was going to say in the intro of this episode, but I haven't. But you know what, let's let's dedicate this episode to anyone who's in the middle of a global pandemic. This goes out to you. I hope you're making the most of your days, and hopefully this podcast is a big part of that. Hopefully it's dominating your days. You're just listening to this podcast, it's driving a wedge between you and your family. Whatever you want, because for the next hour, we're going to be talking to someone who I just adore, who I just think is so funny. Naomi ex Perican Naomi, Welcome to. I said no gifts. 00:01:44 Speaker 3: How wonderful, What a time to be alive for us, don't you think Forridard. 00:01:50 Speaker 2: This is you know, it's certainly a time that we're not going to forget. 00:01:55 Speaker 3: Definitely. 00:01:56 Speaker 2: You know it's I've I've lived enough years that I have just passed me by and I couldn't tell you a single thing about. But here we are in the middle of one which I will at least be able to point out well maybe more than a year at this point, to a large chunk of life that I'll be able to point out as something that happened. But on the other side of that, I won't be able to give you too many details because you know, it's really blurring together at this point. If if I get to go to the store, that's the event. Oh so it's a how are you holding up? 00:02:29 Speaker 3: Well, honey, I do my best, you know what, I've been doing my best for years. A cat just walked across. I'm doing the best, right Like, I'm trying to be alive. I'm trying to just you know, not go crazy. Sure, that's not that's not easy. I'm going to tell you that right now. It's not happening. So many animals, you know, I've got to love. 00:02:51 Speaker 2: What's happening on the zoom right now. The cat has just is just enough to wag the tail in kind of an almost antagonistic way. Oh and what's this cat's name? 00:03:03 Speaker 3: This cat's name is Squeet. And what's so funny about this cat? To me? This cat don't give a fuck about me till I'm on a zoom. I will tell you that this cat is usually asleep on a couch in a chair, just you know, just baking in a sun spot. But the moment I start a zoom, he's like what you're reading for? 00:03:25 Speaker 2: You know, he's doing an incredible job. He's like, at one point you've just the entire screen was blacked out. He's taking the spotlight from you. Always this cat is desperate for podcast attention. And that's fine. How long have you had this cat? This cat came with my lover, so oh sure. 00:03:45 Speaker 4: He ten years. 00:03:47 Speaker 3: This cat has been in my life. 00:03:48 Speaker 4: You know, this cat is my coastal. 00:03:51 Speaker 2: You know, wow, new York cat, initially. 00:03:55 Speaker 3: A New York cat. He's gone you know in the before times like he went. We've flown with these cats five times, but these five times. 00:04:02 Speaker 4: They could do it. They can just go here and there. 00:04:05 Speaker 2: Have they ever been difficult or are they just? Are you lucky with them? 00:04:08 Speaker 3: You drub them up a bit, you up a bit and pretty good. But you know it's funny. Actually we've had people like one time, like and it's to me, it's like so New York, Like when we're leaving and someone's like, like, we have the cats and the carriers, we have two, so Andy and I we each have a cat, and so it's like, oh, no, I cannot sit next to those cats. 00:04:31 Speaker 4: And it's like, no one said. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: You had to, like literally, but like every time. The last time we did it, someone the girl who was sitting there like in the same row as us, she was like, I'm alarrigic. So then the flight attendant had to make an announcement. It was like we have cats in a row and wondering if anyone would like to switch with an allergic passenger. So they caused way more drama that way. But the cats don't actually do anything. 00:05:01 Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible. I've only know one other person who's traveled with a cat, and she traveled alone with it, and I think at some point she had to take it out of the kennel, yes to maybe go through security or whatever, and it became a full melt down. The cat was peeing on her, no one was helping her, and then she had to get on a plane a fly covered in cat pete. You know it's a okay, So you're you lucked out. 00:05:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, that did happen to us, Meaning Andy, the cat was in his lap and the cat pete at some point and then he just was covering a year and for the rest of the flight. You're right. 00:05:33 Speaker 4: I blocked that part out. 00:05:34 Speaker 3: I blocked it out because it didn't happen. 00:05:37 Speaker 2: To be well, even if it did happen to you would want to just black that out entirely. That's wild. So, oh, you've five times? What's the deal with the cat travel here? Have you moved back and forth from New York? That many times? 00:05:49 Speaker 3: It's not moved, but like before now like so, I've been in La three years and then every December, like I've spent a month in New York between the holidays and birthday and then I'd do show. And so we were going to be in New York, you know for a month. You can't ask anybody to watch our animals. 00:06:05 Speaker 2: We've got to get you some long term cat care. I feel like this is. 00:06:09 Speaker 4: Trust these fallows. 00:06:10 Speaker 3: Bridger. 00:06:11 Speaker 2: That's true. It's scary. It is scary. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: Really is scary to think somebody is watching my children and do not and they don't love my children the way I do. You know what I mean? 00:06:20 Speaker 2: Right, And even if they do, they might just be bad at taking care of things. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they like money. 00:06:28 Speaker 2: It's like, not you could get some cat care grifter Suddenly it's that cats are barely eating. I will say cats gonna handle a decent amount of neglect. Not that I'm encouraging you should hire someone to neglect your cats. 00:06:44 Speaker 3: It's funny because I agree with you. But you know, my betruthed his these are his cats, you know first, and he is not like he will not allow it. Because I was like, well, we can have somebody come in, you know, once a day or someone like and he's like, nail me. Would you be okay if you were only fed once a day? Well? No, but this because I'm depressed, you know what I mean. Like, it's not fair, it's not fair that you have to like so he will not He's like he wants someone who's coming twice a day. Wow. 00:07:13 Speaker 2: Later and it's like, okay, okay, I have to say Andy, I mean, good for him, good for I'm not gonna say stop spoiling your cats. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: Do what you want to do. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: They're your little babies. 00:07:25 Speaker 3: It's true. 00:07:25 Speaker 2: I mean I feel say, if somebody gave me a bowl of food that was half my size once a day, I would probably be Okay, you know, I get to just move around the house, and then I'll remember that there's just a giant bowl of food that I can just go and saunter over and eat from again. Sure I could do that. 00:07:42 Speaker 3: Yes, because you're slender, Bridge, You're slender. I feel like, who doesn't drive you in a way that you have no idea? 00:07:50 Speaker 2: By four o'clock to day, I will be starving for dinner. I will be ready to break up with my boyfriend. Everything will be Food is literally the only thing at this point that drives me. Got nothing else. That's my biggest fear with COVID. I mean, have you you've read about people who permanently lose tastes and smell? 00:08:08 Speaker 4: Oh? I know, Well it's when you say that's the fear for me. 00:08:12 Speaker 3: I could use a good weight loss trick, like if that happened to me, and then I was like able to just melt a little pounds from the coco. I take it because I don't have will power, so it would take a full disease to make excudy. 00:08:26 Speaker 2: Watch what you wish for? No, suddenly you're not enjoy I mean, what is left to enjoy at that point? What are you going to do? I don't know what else? What else do you enjoy? 00:08:35 Speaker 3: It's so funny you say that, because I've really come to realize in the last year that I don't really have hobbies. You know, the things I enjoy have our work, right like, are now my job, And so what do I enjoy? You know? I like watching a procedural, and like watching a true crime that does bring me joy. I really like my animals, the two cats and a dog, that brings me joy. But what else like I don't know. I love to sleep. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: This is very much me where like the things I enjoyed before were writing and comedy, this sort of thing they have now just become my job, and the rest of my hobbies are extremely passive. 00:09:12 Speaker 3: What else do you do? 00:09:13 Speaker 2: I'm watching there's something flashing on a screen in front of me. I mean maybe it's a video game that's like one degree more active. 00:09:21 Speaker 3: What are you playing? What do you have? Console wise? 00:09:23 Speaker 2: I have a PlayStation four and a Nintendo Switch. 00:09:27 Speaker 3: Well, a switch is in our household, and. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: What are you playing on this? 00:09:30 Speaker 4: I'm not touching it. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: You're not touching it. 00:09:32 Speaker 3: But it's always going. Have you heard of Zelda Breath of the While? Of course I've heard of Zelda. 00:09:38 Speaker 2: I love that video game, although it ruined all other video games for me, because it's, you know, just this beautiful, gorgeous adventure you get to go on. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: It's however, but here's my thing with Zelda, though. Every time I feel like every time I look over, you know and like kind of check in, he's like making a stew or hunting for ingreedious and like I'm like, I'm like why, He's like, oh, I don't have enough, I don't have the right mushroom. I'm like, Okay, that's just real life. Okay, that is not to play a video game where you have to make dinner and don't have all the ingredients. It's just reality, specially yourself. 00:10:12 Speaker 2: To be able to make anything beyond a breakfast taco is escapist. The ultimate escape for me. The things you're the foods you're making in this video game are so beyond my skill level. I mean, it's a mushroom. This a mushroom that you're making. You're putting apples together with you know, wolf meat. For me, that's the ultimate fantasy. This video game is very much about just becoming an expert chef. 00:10:40 Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, on honey, as long as someone's enjoying themselves, I am livid. People like Animal Crossing. I like, I don't want a game that's just like slavery cosplay. You want me to till a feel, you want me to till a field out of here, Bridger, get out of here. I will not. I will not. 00:11:00 Speaker 2: I'm on board with you in that regard Animal Crossing. We are truly, We've just got We're out doing chores and work and then decorating the house. I just that sounds to me like the ultimate anxiety inducer. I have a hard enough time making my own home look decent, and it's like I'm watering the plant, my own plants, they're dying before my eyes. It's like I can't do that. I appreciate that everybody else is able to escape in that way. But it just to me feels like a work simulation nightmare. 00:11:32 Speaker 3: Oh I'm convinced is them trying to get us ready for work camps and slavery again, like when they bring it back. You know, it's like the way video games will like one of the other. I don't know if it's true or not. You know, they say some shoot them up games, like the government monitors who's really good and then try to recruit you for the army and shit what well, like you know, like you'll say, like those kind of guys will start to get like ads for like military army. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: Sure this makes sense. Sure you liked it in the video game. 00:11:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this guy's really into shooting and has no mercy. You should come work in law enforcement. But and so I feel like that's what's happening. Like if I'm really good at telling the field, be like we're bringing slavery back, come with us, I won't. 00:12:13 Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's no question that's what's happening. But I mean hopefully in my case, that just means that I'm going to be recruited to, you know, be the next Mario. You know, these are the things that means jumping on platforms here we have, we've got we've suspended platforms in the air. Bridger, go crazy, eat mushrooms, jump around, do your thing. So you do you play video games at all? 00:12:38 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I want to, though, like meaning because like I know people who like it's an activity, it like kind of takes you away. It's like, but I just like I don't have the coordination. I'm like, this isn't real like it does. I don't know. I can't get invested. I truly cannot get invested. I need an activity, Bridger. I need an activity. 00:12:59 Speaker 2: So have you had hobbies at all in your life? If you were painted, drawn, sewing? Is that a thing? Crochet? I'm just thinking of pain. I'm already circling back to paintings, so probably I think there are three hobbies. 00:13:10 Speaker 3: I was like, I got to get some paints. I was going to get some water colors because I was in my past life I was an editor of an art magazine and I was like watercolor magazine, and I was like, paint and that'd be fun. And I haven't bought anything yet, but that's literally what I was thinking last month. I was like, just buy some paints, buy some nice twenty pounds. Get some good heavy paper. Honey. You wanted to be able to. 00:13:32 Speaker 2: Absorb that water color, right, You can't have that sinking through onto the counter. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 00:13:38 Speaker 2: My mom is a water color is water color as a hobby, but she's always sending me postcards of mushroom shoe water colors, and then she'll occasionally send me stuff to watercolor with which I have yet to actually use because it's it's a high pressure activity to me, I want it to be good and so I'm always circling it, but it terrifies. 00:14:02 Speaker 3: Okay, So I had to give you a gift next time you drop the watercolors at my house so I could get to painting. 00:14:08 Speaker 2: Okay, because that's what I need to do. You do I should have? This is This is my feeling as a podcast host. You know, I'm I need there needs to be some level of exhange, some sort of tit for tat that sort of thing. But I struggle, I really struggle. 00:14:24 Speaker 3: Wait, Bridgard, where are you from. 00:14:26 Speaker 2: I'm from Utah? 00:14:28 Speaker 3: Interesting, you know, because you said you I'm getting a waspy energy from you. I'm getting an old bunny feel. Mother's doing watercolors. I mean your name is Bridger, which isn't a first name. It's very waspy. So I'm getting this like energy of like like your mom goes by the name Bitsy, but her real name is Muriel. You know, everyone calls her gutsy and she's into watercolors. Now, because I'm telling you, having work for watercolor magazine, white women love a watercolor. Okay, it's non toxic, so you can really just do it anywhere, and it's just lends itself to nature. So you know, I felt that and then I just see it, and then I just like, I don't know. That's the energy I get from you. 00:15:09 Speaker 2: I just don't know where this. Oh, I'm getting an interruption from a boyfriend mid podcast. This is going to be a sit This will be a conversation after the podcast. Good lord, happy cat, but. 00:15:21 Speaker 3: Fully walked through my frame. It'sch I me in quarantine. I cannot pretend for you anymore. I'm like, this is life, Okay, this is it. 00:15:31 Speaker 4: I can't stop it from happening. 00:15:33 Speaker 2: Look, a cat doesn't know what a podcast is. A boyfriend certainly does. This is going to be a whole situation and in the right as you're you know, basically telling me I'm a wasp from Connecticut. Yeah, where's this energy coming from? I don't know where I'm getting this in. Uh, that's an interesting thing. I come from Utah, you know the no I've been on a deer hunting trip. You know, I've seen the local neighbor hood boys kill a frog in the street. So I don't know where the waspender she's coming. 00:16:04 Speaker 3: This is wild. This isn't wild. It's like interesting, interesting, interesting. 00:16:10 Speaker 2: Richard, speaking of people calling themselves bitsy and true crime, did you watch Murder on Middle Beach? 00:16:19 Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you ahead. I started it, but then I was bored by it because I was like, your name is Beach and the murders on the beach, and then it's like your name is the same name as the town the sun, you know, And I was like, I was like, I'm sorry, is this what's supposed to captivate me? And I heard later on it gets. 00:16:39 Speaker 2: Really good, it gets It's incredible. The pyramid scheme, the words they use in the pyramid scheme, and then the waspy names really spiral out of control. Somebody's name Sandy Beach. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: Sandy Beach is insane, famous alcoholic Sandy Beach. Literally he's famous, Like he's like a tapes are famous what Sandy Leach is like like, oh yeah, they talked about famous. He's actually famous, Like he's like his tate. You listen to him talk and that's just so funny. But wait, here's the thing, though. Do you find out who killed the mom at the end? 00:17:11 Speaker 2: You don't, but you know that's what you get to decide. You know who killed the mom at the end? I mean if the if the person at the end that you think killed the mom didn't kill the mom, then something aliens killed the mom. Really, because this I won't state the gender. I don't want to give it away, but this person who killed the mom is clearly a murderer. 00:17:35 Speaker 4: Huh. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: But no one's been tried. Because here's the thing that drives me nuts. And I like, really, if if I was a white woman with nothing to do, I would start a petition demanding that podcast and documentaries where you don't find the killer at the end, say that at the top, there's nothing I hate more to have and spend my time watching some shit and then at the end, I don't even know who did it. Rude. 00:18:01 Speaker 2: It's incredibly frustrating. I'm trying to think of other ones that leave you hanging. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: Well. I listened to a podcast called case File, and that's like, this is the narrator. It's like case File True Crime. And he will literally just be up in here being like we don't know, and I'm like, this was ninety minutes of my life. 00:18:21 Speaker 2: It's like, why did you start this if you didn't know? 00:18:24 Speaker 3: He wants to raise awareness. I'm like, okay, look like, literally you just needs to stay up top the following case has not been solved, and then I will fast forward. I will go to the next episode. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: But then he's just gonna I mean, I guess it is just a tactic if you if you say that up top, people are everyone's going to skip to the next episode. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: Well, well, don't take away my agency. 00:18:48 Speaker 2: Did you listen to Chameleon no oh, the podcast about the Hollywood con Queen. 00:18:54 Speaker 4: Wait, we've been talking about other podcasts on your podcast. 00:18:57 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm trying to drive I'm trying to drive listener away my favorite murder. That's the only podcast I can think of right now. They always got a podcast called couple Therapy. We're trying to just drain my my listeners out, get me canceled, and I can go back and work at a bakery or something. 00:19:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, go back to Utah. Kill a Frog in the Street. 00:19:23 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, I recommend that podcast. It's fast. Okay, I'll write it down. I guess that's my newte Maybe that's like my hobby. You can listening to crime podcasts be a hobby. Yeah, what are you doing when you're listening to podcasts? Are you cleaning the house or what? 00:19:37 Speaker 3: Just no, I'm playing Candy Crush, I'm playing Boggle, I'm playing Gardenscapes, I'm playing bubble Witch. I mean just like everything. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my struggle with podcasts. When I'm not driving at all, it's like what I'm so, I've started taking extremely long strolls around the neighborhood, and that seems work. 00:20:00 Speaker 3: That's nice. I don't really strow like you know, I'm in a neighborhood that's kind of on the cusps, like where it's like it's not like a cute walk. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: Sure, sure, But. 00:20:09 Speaker 3: Then also for me, it's like in I've La La is ground zero for serial killers and calls. This town is not comfortable to me, Like I don't like when there are people on the street, you know, like I can kind of walk north and it's like pretty houses, but then there's no one there, and then I'm convinced I'm gonna get, you know, murdered. 00:20:29 Speaker 2: Right, and you walk south from your area and it's exactly right. And also there's scientologists on every corner. It's a lot to deal with. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: It's I've lived in two places since moving here, and both places were within walking distance of a scientology center. 00:20:46 Speaker 2: This is obviously somebody needs to walk to the scientology center, you know, me, it's time. 00:20:53 Speaker 3: Look the first place, it was so funny cause they'll like put you know, the flyer and paper. And one time, I literally I had gone to an audition. It was terrible. I was terrible. It was the whole thing. And I come home, you know, and I'm like, well, this is the dream. And I go to my RM and there is literally a flyer that says free acting class, oh no Scientology center. And I was like how did they know? And I'm not how I get you because I came home broke down, and if you were, I was like, well. 00:21:21 Speaker 4: Shit, maybe I need to take this free acting. 00:21:23 Speaker 3: Class because not working out the way I wanted it. Noo. 00:21:29 Speaker 2: I hope that the audition itself was set up by scientology. They broke you down in the session, they send you home, and suddenly the flyers there. That would be an excellent recruiting tactic. I mean, I feel like that must have worked for them in the seventies and eighties. But at this point, come on, no one's falling for that shit. I just can't imagine. 00:21:49 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I wonder if they like get new recruits nowadays. 00:21:53 Speaker 2: Right because at this point, it's almost like oversaturation with the the truth about this religion. It's like we have had a thousand documentaries telling us how wild it is. It's like, if you don't know that something's going on with that religion at this point, you haven't been on the internet in ten years exactly. 00:22:10 Speaker 3: And I think that's what they want. They want, that's the kind of people they want. They're like, are you wealthy and have never been on the internet. It's like, who's that person? 00:22:18 Speaker 4: But that's what they want. 00:22:20 Speaker 2: That remaining person is Tom Cruise. They've already got him. So I always wonder about Tom Cruise browsing the internet. I just can't picture that I can't like, where's Tom Cruise going online? 00:22:32 Speaker 1: You know what? 00:22:33 Speaker 3: Actually, it's so funny you say that, because now I'm with you, I'm like, I don't think he does. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: He's right, I can't imagine what he has to access on the internet. I just can't imagine him. Like I'm headed over to uh Scientific American. 00:22:48 Speaker 3: You've got to get to shopify to buy some items. But no, he's got like because I bet you know what, I bet he believes the Internet is poison, right, and he like has an assistant whose job it is to manage I bet he doesn't have email like way, no personally mail. He's got the assistant engine like everyone else. But no way, you can't email tomat me dot com, you know right? 00:23:12 Speaker 2: He very much has that like Dad energy of like anything you do with the screen is a waste of time, right, Why are you playing video games? Get off that internet? 00:23:19 Speaker 3: Right? 00:23:20 Speaker 2: So? And I yeah, I can't imagine him doing it. But maybe maybe he'll surprise us. Maybe he's lurking on Twitter trolling people. It's got a nantcy shop. I don't know, Naomi, Tom Cruise. Aside, this podcast is called I said no Gifts and a few weeks ago, you agreed to be on the podcast, and I was so excited. I thought, Naomi, I chance to talk to her. I'm thrilled beyond belief. She had my maybe my favorite song of twenty twenty, Bye Bitch, which was just a balm, and so I thought, wonderful. I'm looking forward to it. And a few days ago I decided to occasion, I'll take a drive just to confirm that the world still exists and listen to some music at a deafening level. And I was cruising through your neighborhood and I thought, maybe i'll just see what Naomi's up to. So I put on my mask. I walked up to your apartment. Your door was open a crack. Your hand shot out and handed me a small bag. I thought, this is strange. Maybe she doesn't feel like taking visitors. It's COVID. She probably doesn't want to see me. So I took the bag, didn't open it. I thought, I'll just wait till the podcast and see what's going on. 00:24:35 Speaker 3: Oh, Naomi, I have. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: To ask you, is this a gift for me? 00:24:43 Speaker 3: Yes? It is, for sure. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, what's happening? 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Well? 00:24:49 Speaker 4: Look, I feel like you doff protest too much. 00:24:52 Speaker 3: So if you say I said no gifts, I feel like it's a challenge, and normally I have to test challenges and I really don't like a But I said, you know what, I will meet him where he stands. 00:25:08 Speaker 2: Okay, well, while we're here. Uh, you know, I don't want to be rude. The last thing I want to do is be rude on my own podcast. 00:25:17 Speaker 3: Should I Should I open this here? Why? Yes, of course. Okay. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: It's in a kind of a little uh what type of material is this? Uh, it's like a little lap is too strong, but it's like a soft bur like fancy burr lap. 00:25:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little pouch a pouch, right. 00:25:41 Speaker 2: I'll say it's roughly the size of like two bars of soap, and I will reveal I usually don't open gifts on the podcast, and I haven't opened this, but because it looked like bars of soap, I will full disclosure say I did smell it and did not smell soap. So I mean there's a chance that it's a well packaged soaps for Bridger. And it says a word loan on it, which could mean something could not. You know, we're in the middle of a pandemic. Who knows this could this could have held so before I'm going to open it up and see what's happening in here. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: See what's happening. It's like not really made for the bank, so you're gonna have to pull it. 00:26:18 Speaker 2: You're gonna have this is a what is the like twenty pounds of something in a ten pound sack. This is exactly what's happening here. I'm feeling plastic. I'm now you okay, wait what oh? Initially I thought, okay, Initially it's in some sort of like in a pill shaped bottle, So initially I thought, almost immediately the only has gifted me some sort of medication, which again would have been fine. I would have probably taken some right here on the podcast. But I'm I'm I'm relieved to say it's gummy Bears. Yes, but like a now, this is a this is a immediately the fanciest gummy bear I have ever said. They're Vanilla Almond Gummy Bears inspired Inspy Pressed Juiceries Signature Blend. And it's also okay, and I'm not going to say the other brand. I've already said one brand name. Neither of these companies sponsors this podcast, So we're only handing one one free sponsorship out here. But Pressed Juicery is kind of a fancy juicery out and about is it an LA company problem? 00:27:31 Speaker 3: So they're like around, they're around. 00:27:33 Speaker 2: Right, you know, they're one of these shops where you buy a forty five dollars juice. You've got celery water, you've got. 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Your you've got a wheat grass, you've got a tubret. 00:27:47 Speaker 2: You're but this is so now I'm just tell me more. 00:27:53 Speaker 3: Well, I the only real candy I eat are gummy bears, or like gummies in general. You know, they don't have right, but I love a gummy and I like I prefer it to be sour fruit flavored. 00:28:08 Speaker 4: And so. 00:28:10 Speaker 3: You know, I I thought the vanilla almond gummy bear was sick and it was as far as flavors of a gummy goes, I was afraid to try it, you know, and I thought maybe maybe Bridger will, maybe Bridge will take the hit and he can tell me how it tastes. 00:28:31 Speaker 2: Neither neither vanilla nor almond are things I would they were. They're probably both like number eight hundred on a list of possible flavors for gummy bears, I would say, exactly, combining them together and then they're like an opaque. So this is very interesting. I mean I've occasionally on this podcast the gummies have been brought up because I love a gummy Oh I was something. Maybe this is you know, what is it manifesting or you know, almost a vision board style where you start talking about something and suddenly your life is just full of it. Because recently Kulavleisak was on the podcast and she gifted me. After the podcast, she continued to just throw things at me. She gave me two and a half pounds of gummy bears from Flavors. So those are currently you know something, I'm snacking and now I've got this the fanciest gummy bear in the world. Should I eat one, I'm cracking. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: The bottle, cracked it, smell it. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: I'm going to say the smell is not great. Uh. That said, I don't know that I've ever really smelled gummy bears, So maybe all gammy, they're very tiny. 00:29:39 Speaker 3: Look how tiny they're very meteite. I'm gonna see what happens. If you don't like it, spit it out, don't swallow it. If you don't like it. Do you taste vanilla? Do you taste almond? 00:29:50 Speaker 2: It tastes like bacon grease. Now the vanilla's coming. This is not a good flavored candy. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank you. It's like, thank you. 00:30:06 Speaker 2: It's in a minute. I'm gonna eat another and see if my brain has adjusted to what that experience is. 00:30:12 Speaker 3: Bacon grease with a intervanilla is not the one. 00:30:17 Speaker 2: It's uh, I'm not tasting almond in any fashion. I mean maybe that's what the bacon grease was. And then it's also got I don't know if it's just something that's inherent to gummies, but there is like a fruitiness to it, which makes no sense whatsoever. So your brain is going on a true downhill slope of you're just like it's fear, like a snowballing fear. What am I going to taste? 00:30:46 Speaker 3: Nice? Yeah, you're careening down a slippery slope without your ski poles and a tree is in the distance. 00:30:55 Speaker 2: Right. I will say it starts off worse than it. The initial flavor is something that I was When you said you could spit it out, I thought, maybe I spit it out. Maybe I just get rid of this, but in hopes of a better tomorrow, I thought, let's just keep chewing. And now it just tastes like I like occasionally you're, as a child tempted to taste the scented marker or the scratch and stiff sticker. 00:31:28 Speaker 3: Never, never, I was not that child. I'm trying. 00:31:33 Speaker 2: I'm trying to trying to find something that resembles this experience. And although I wasn't that child either, I guess I was. You know, we would have, like occasionally someone would have markers that had fruit flavors. You would smell them and you'd be like, that smells as good. I never tried it, but I imagine this is what you would end up with, or if, like as an adult, you stuck your fingers in a candle and just gave that a shot. It's not good. Now that I've said, you know, maybe I do say both brand names, although maybe that maybe now they're circling and want to sponsor the podcast, so I'm going to back off Press Juicery. I love, I love the gummy. 00:32:16 Speaker 3: Bears, we love other flavors. We love what you're trying, but send some flavors that are actually gummy appropriate. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: Yes, society in general has said, let's do fruit with the gummies. We're all okay with that happening. Yes, we did not need to take this sharp left towards vanilla almonds. It doesn't make any sense. You know, that's a coffee, that's an ice cream, Yeah, that's a you know, we are sticking with fruit flavors with a gummy bear. It just doesn't make any other sense. I don't care if you're fans. I make a more accurate fruit flavor, sure. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly. 00:32:59 Speaker 2: Also, we haven't covered all the fruits with gummy bears. It's not like we ran out of fruit for gummy bear flavors. 00:33:04 Speaker 3: I've never had dragon fruit gummy, a Kiwi gummy right. 00:33:09 Speaker 2: Oh my god, just off the top of your head, look what's happening here. I've never even had a mango gummy. 00:33:13 Speaker 3: Oh, you're right. 00:33:15 Speaker 2: So it feels like maybe let's give it a shot with the rest of Earth's fruit before we dive into other dessert categories. 00:33:28 Speaker 3: Can you imagine? Can you imagine the person like in R and D that was just like what if we made a gummy milky said no, like a. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: Nerve where the person was like I've got to get out of this job. They're not gonna I can't quit. I've got to get them to fire. Let's get a heavy dairy flavor in. 00:33:52 Speaker 3: Chewable dairy. 00:33:56 Speaker 2: I mean no, thank you. I mean I think I'm going to try another just quick. Maybe I'm just immature. Maybe maybe I'm not classy enough. 00:34:09 Speaker 3: Now you're like hopeful, You're like, let's try again, Utah. I feel like that should be the tagline for Utah, Let's try again. 00:34:19 Speaker 2: I have to say, the initial flavor of this is one of the worst flavors of candy I have ever tried. It's I mean, it's inexcusable. It doesn't make it. How did this get past the trial stage? 00:34:34 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. I mean, Richard, oh, what is it? 00:34:38 Speaker 2: I nearly didn't swallow? 00:34:41 Speaker 1: Now swallow? 00:34:41 Speaker 2: Is that? But it's in my body. It's part of who I am. 00:34:45 Speaker 3: Now, it's become you now now, okay, I was literally my initial My initial thought was to give you some cans of dented cat food. Having tried the gummies, would you say you would have preferred the dented cat food? 00:35:02 Speaker 2: I would have gotten a fork, a knife, a napkin, and eaten both cans of this botulism cat food before ever trying this vanilla almond gummies. Again, these are worse than getting bochulism. Do you get botulism? Is that how that works? 00:35:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get it. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: It's vanilla almond gummy bears are truly and this goes beyond circus peanuts. This goes beyond black liquorice taffy. This is the worst candy I've ever tried. 00:35:34 Speaker 3: Wow wow, wow wow. I'm honored. I'm honored to have provided you that experience. 00:35:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the one thing I'll say about this is it's so horrifying that it's new. 00:35:47 Speaker 3: You shouldn't keep it in your house and like have it be like a day or like you want one of these vanilla almond candies and like you have to give it to somebody and it's like a write of passage or a test. 00:35:58 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. Also you could be a test of people's honesty. You bring guests over and you see if people how honest they are with you as a guest. Like if somebody tells me they're loving these, I know that I can't trust them in any business d they or of the heart. I know that they can't even tell me the truth about a disgusting. 00:36:17 Speaker 3: Gummy, right, right, No, you're very very right, or. 00:36:20 Speaker 2: I know that they have bad taste. 00:36:22 Speaker 4: Either way, you don't want to be bothered your life. 00:36:26 Speaker 2: They're not coming back. They're certainly not coming back to my home. So this is a very good It's almost like an you know, like a king would have a bottle of these and he would have his servants come and try them before deciding to trust them. And this is now my the true test of anything in my life, and I'm through. Do you have a least favorite candy or food. 00:36:49 Speaker 3: The least favorite, Well, you had mentioned I don't like as far as candies go. 00:36:55 Speaker 4: I will not touch licorice in any form. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: Even red. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 00:37:00 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:37:01 Speaker 3: I don't like Taffy's or toffees or just any of that stuff that really just fucking takes out a crown, something that could take out I don't like it. I do like when it's like too much, you know, like I wanted taffy to be good, you know, because in the summer it's like I bought taffy and I'm just like, I'm disgusting Taffy. 00:37:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, is one of those things that's so aspirational. It's like I went to the boardwalk and bought taffy. What an experience. But taffy is disgusting. It all sucks, It hurts your teeth. 00:37:33 Speaker 3: It's so bad, Like I don't even understand, Like it feels like it feels like a candy that was like made during the Great Depression, but we didn't have much, you know what I mean, but we wanted the children to feel special. 00:37:45 Speaker 2: No, no, no, right, uh, Dark Times candy is just all bad. It's all bad stuff where it's like, well, we didn't have sugar, so we use beat syrup and it's no. We could we could just move on from that. We don't need that type of food in our lives anymore. We've got all the ingredients to make things that taste good. Yeah, licorice is interesting to me that I like a lead a red licorice, a black licorice has yet to work for me. 00:38:14 Speaker 4: Is that because you don't have black people in your life? 00:38:18 Speaker 2: Very No, absolutely not. That's because black licorice is horrible. It's like it tastes like poison. 00:38:26 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've never I mean I've never had it, like even just the red because my mom loves Twizzlers and so we always have the Twizzlers in the house growing up, right, so I to eat those and I was like, oh no, no, no, this is bad. So like once I went off of that very early on, and that was a popular one. You weren't going to get me to eat like another version or a knockoff or a different color, you know what I mean. But our black licorice, you know, is it like cinnamony or is this sposed to be like a nise. 00:38:50 Speaker 2: It's like a nise. That's exactly sick, right, And I don't mind a nise in other situations, like if it's a light touch of a nise, but. 00:39:00 Speaker 4: But not as a candy. But not as a munch munch munch. 00:39:03 Speaker 2: No, no, no, thank you no. I read recently about a man who died because he ate too much black licorice. Apparently it's like at high levels it's toxic. So I mean that feels like a red flag right there. I don't know what to tell people. 00:39:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely you should actually. 00:39:20 Speaker 2: Put that on the bag, right, I will say Australians know how to make a good licorice, a good fruit licorice. Yeah, I've had a mango that was delicious. They really go for the flavors, whereas like I don't mind a twizzler as not a candy nor a food, but as a something to chew, almost like. 00:39:37 Speaker 3: A dog toy human dog to it. 00:39:40 Speaker 2: Right, the flavor's not there for me. But the Australians, for some reason, they're very proud of their licorice. 00:39:47 Speaker 4: That's interesting. I lived in Australia and I did not know about licorice. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: But also I hate licorice, so it's not like I would have welcomed it into my life in any flavor. 00:39:55 Speaker 2: What were you doing in Australia? 00:39:57 Speaker 3: May Sometimes you got. 00:39:57 Speaker 4: To get away. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: I just gotta get away and I just tried it. This is back. It was like a while, it was waight to nine. 00:40:09 Speaker 2: What was that experience like? Was it enjoyable? 00:40:11 Speaker 3: It was? It was enjoyable, but also wild. I mean, I missed it. I would love to go back, but it's also like only the thing I would do at twenty five to twenty six years old, like I was, and it was just like let's go and it was a lot of fun. I wish I I don't know, because they were like being black there like people just like they'll touch up on you. They asked me if I was a refugee. It was a whole thing where I was like, I know I. 00:40:39 Speaker 4: Won't be here long. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Sure, so kind of once I knew that, like, I didn't really put the effort into kind of like laying down roots or finding a job that I would really want. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: To keep, or you know, what did you do for work there? 00:40:52 Speaker 3: I worked at as a bartender at a hostel I look at you downtown, And then I worked at Carnival Cruise Lines offices. So when the boats come into Sydney Harbor, you know, they need to get all their They had to get re upped, they. 00:41:07 Speaker 4: Got to get their supplies. 00:41:08 Speaker 3: The people who work have to get doctor's appointments, and so our office would like schedule all that stuff. We'll get that stuffing. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: Did you get a free cruise out of it? 00:41:17 Speaker 3: Not at all. I mean they wouldn't even let me play on the internet. They like, I was like, Okay, Carnival, y'all need to relax, okay, because this job is not that deep. You cannot block me from blogging. And they did though, but. 00:41:34 Speaker 2: That is shameful, absolutely shameful. 00:41:37 Speaker 3: But you know, to be a to work as a bartender. And I got, you know, against that a hostile seventeen dollars an hour. What did you get tips? 00:41:45 Speaker 2: No, they don't really tip there, Okay, so they have to put seventeen dollars an hour to bartend. 00:41:50 Speaker 3: That's incredible, I know, like age and twenty five. And then every now and then I would get a tip and it was like, you know, like some dude who would just put give me twenty dollars? 00:41:58 Speaker 2: I was like what, I just like And so, yeah, did you travel around the country? 00:42:05 Speaker 3: I did? I did. I got to a bunch of places I did. I did do the little Great Barrier reef, I did. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: A little beautiful. 00:42:14 Speaker 3: And I god, I'm like blanking on everything. Oh, the Northern Territory and the pretty much the desert, you know, and right I saw Ularu and camped outside. I did a lot of that, and then I went to New Zealand for two weeks a week and then and then that was it. It was like the end of my trip. Like I was like, okay, it's time to go home. Let me go see everything. 00:42:37 Speaker 2: That feels like a pretty full experience. 00:42:39 Speaker 3: It was a very full experience. 00:42:40 Speaker 2: I would love to go. That flight is fifty five hours long, well. 00:42:46 Speaker 3: From New York. Yeah, dude, it's like a full twenty four at least from LA you couldn't lose six hours, so it's eighteen, right, I will tell you, Or at least back then, it was such a nice flight, like even coach because it's along, like you get tons of food, all the movies, you could un comfortable seat so like, and that was just you know, my regular like brokeass twenty five year olds taking a flight like if you did it, you know, fancy right, well, never. 00:43:14 Speaker 2: Going to do it? Fancy? 00:43:15 Speaker 3: Are you keeping? I only want to do things fancy? What would be what would bids say? 00:43:21 Speaker 2: I can't do a fancy I would just be thinking about that how much money I spent the entire time. Then I can't relax. In another way, I will say, you know, airlines that operate out of the United States are almost uniformly horrible, but Asian airlines, European airlines all even base level yep for you like a person. 00:43:40 Speaker 3: I know, I know, it's really really wild. 00:43:42 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. 00:43:44 Speaker 3: Because they understand that life is worth living and if you are going to be in the sky trapped with other people who you can't account for. You might as well get a buttered roll. They're good about it. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: They are good about it. Well, look, I think it's time to play a game. Oh do you want to play a game called Gift Master or a game called Gift or a curse? 00:44:08 Speaker 3: Gift or a curse? 00:44:09 Speaker 2: All right, I need a number between one and ten nine. Okay, I have to do some light calculating. 00:44:15 Speaker 3: Now. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: While I calculate, I need you to summon all of your power to promote something, recommend something, do whatever you want for the next who knows how long. I'll be right back. 00:44:27 Speaker 3: Okay, So you guys, I have this podcast called Couple's Therapy, which I think you should really listen to. We're having fun with it in Koir. We've had some fun guests. We answer relationship questions. We talked to couples. We have Nico Santos from Superstore and his boyfriend Zeke Smith on Zeke Smith from Survivor. 00:44:45 Speaker 4: Hello. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: We just talked to Tig Nataro and Stephanie Allen. We just had Alex Newell. I'm just like naming all the people who I like, and you know, just listen to that. Me and dear relationship is managing if your vibe this pandemic, even though it's like we don't even want to look at each other's faces, can you handle it. I'm also watching a lot of anime, so i'd recommend my hero Academia if you haven't started it. It's really good. It's four seasons. It's like, I don't know, I love anime, but I can't fuck with video games. I don't know, I don't know. This is just who I am. 00:45:18 Speaker 2: Now. 00:45:20 Speaker 3: Hulu has a lot of anime and it's dubbed. I don't want to get in a fight with you about dub versus sub don't start with me, Okay, I'm not. It's a fucking cartoon. I'm not trying to read. So that's what I like. So you can watch that. I'm gonna tell you to watch that. You got to watch the nail. 00:45:35 Speaker 2: Enough is enough. Look we did enough earlier to drain my listeners away. Suddenly you've made this incredible pitch for your podcast. I'm gonna have half a listener left. I mean, I think my mom is barely listening at this point. So it's like, oh my god, I mean, this is kind of the final nail in the coffin for I said no gifts and my life is over. But do what you want. You know, I took too long calculating, and so this is all my fault. Suddenly you're promoting dubbed anime, which I can't get behind. You know, it's are you Are you a purist? I'm a little bit of a you know, dubbed anything, I'm thrown. I'm a little bit I'm always thrown. I need to I prefer I mean, I think you can do a decent dub. Some people do a good dub. With those studio Ghibli movies, you can get a good dub. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: The funimation dub is top notch. Okay, they've only got about twelve voice actors. You start to know their voices and it kind of takes you out of it. But it's a top notch dub. I'm not watching a dub movie, but it's a cartoon. It's already a drawing and their mouths don't even make real shapes, so it's like. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: Easy to just dub. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: That's very true. A dubbed movie, I'm out immediately. If it's live action, yes, forget oh my god, I mean loves to dub. I watched the trailer for this loopin the trailer they had and I've heard good things about the show, but the trailer was dubbed so poorly that I like my head was spinning. I couldn't believe anyone approved this thing. It looks horrible. 00:47:09 Speaker 3: Well, there's one show. There's one show I'm watching. It's called Sweet Home and it's Korean, and I'm watching these subtitles. It's live action, right, But I like clipped over the dub just to hear what it was like. And I realized what was one of the things that bumped me too? Is it like all the. 00:47:23 Speaker 4: Actors sounded Caucasian to me? 00:47:26 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's because I'm like, I'm watching like Korean people, right, and it's literally someone like, what's going on y'all can find? Like, are not that I can hear Korean in someone's voice, But it was just like so like Caucasian American accented English. I was like, no, no. 00:47:48 Speaker 2: No sense. Yeah, I want to get hired to dub things. If you're out there listening, I'll dub an entire movie thirty bucks, just I want to do it for the experience. I want to ruin somebody's mood moviegoing experience, Thurdy, But. 00:48:03 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm trying to think of a movie you could dub. 00:48:07 Speaker 3: Now, why don't we have you dub Amillie. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Yes, I can bring the sense of whimsy that movie required. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: I think. 00:48:16 Speaker 4: So you said no gifts. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, let's get into this game. I'm gonna name three things. You have to tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why? Okay, and you know, as usual, I have to remind the guest that there are correct answers. 00:48:30 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:48:31 Speaker 2: This is not as an exercise and subjectivity. This is there are true, hard, cold correct answers. 00:48:41 Speaker 3: Okay, okay. First up, speaking. 00:48:43 Speaker 2: Of trailers, this is a a listener suggestion, gift or a curse movie trailers. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Movie trailers are a curse? Why because I'm already backpedaling. Movie trailers are a gift because they let you know where you should put your time. Do you want to watch this movie? You know? A movie trailer will try to give you the flashiest moments, and if you are not impressed, you do not watch that motion picture. And that's gorgeous for someone to realize I've got Tom Viandy's hose you gotta ra dazzle, And so that's like really nice that movie trailers exist. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: You right out of the gate. You've nailed it, you know. I'd like to disagree here. I mean, actually not right out of the gate, because you did stumble a bit, but the backpedaled, you corrected, you course corrected. Movie trailer. Of course, it's a gift. I love a movie trailer, Are you kidding me? I loved a little sneak peek of what the future has in store for me, even if it's bad. I'm like, well, now I got to watch something horrible and it was It was almost a vanilla almond gummy bear experience. I love a good movie trailer. I have to get to the movies way in a I need to see every single trailer. 00:50:01 Speaker 3: But here's my question, though, how do you feel like? Do you want a trailer that leaves you wanting more? Or because like so many movie trailers, I feel like we'll tell you the whole movie nowadays, Like you watch a trailer and you're like, well, I saw it. I guess like they'll tell you the twist, They'll tell you. How do you want that? Or do you want a trailer that's very much like almost like a Madman trailer, where it's just flashes of people saying one sentence and you don't know what any of it means. I love the latter. 00:50:29 Speaker 2: I love, you know. I love a movie trailer that barely just gives me this is basically the vibe of the movie. Here's the tone, here's who's here's who's going to be in it, and who's directing it. That's all I need, Okay, I don't need, you know, to see the final climax of the movie in forty five seconds. And then I'm like, well then so I get to watch the boring part. Now I'm going to pay to watch the dullest parts of the movie. I don't understand what's your preference there. 00:50:55 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting when the trailer is everything, it makes me feel like it's not a good movie because I'm like, you've told me the whole story, so you obviously don't want me to show up like you know what I mean, I'm like, it's not good. So like when it's like that, I always I'm like, well, if you don't like it, I don't like it. I feel. But at the same time, when it's like very like moody and ethereal and like where I'm like, I don't know what any of this means, you know, I don't like what I don't know, like where I can't take away. 00:51:25 Speaker 2: Something right, Yeah it is. I do feel like when the nice thing when they show me everything, if it's like, you know, a big action movie that I probably wouldn't have seen in the first place, I'm like, thank you for saving me the fifty dollars that they're charging for a movie ticket at this point. But the only movie trailers I don't like are for comedies because I feel like movie trailers for comedies are never funny, even if the movie's funny, so that can be a real poison. But overall we're on the same page here. Gift the next one here is an interesting one. It's from a listener named Sam and gif her a curse. This is what Sam suggested, A cool glass of milk. 00:52:10 Speaker 4: Is there no context for this milk? Just milk on its. 00:52:13 Speaker 2: Own that Sam has. This is all of the information Sam has provided. Sam wants to know. Gift her a curse? A cool glass of milk? 00:52:23 Speaker 3: Those are eh Ill ill. That is a curse. And there was something about the way you said it, you really pronounce you really gave me the l and the ky and milk. It was milk that I just was really not having it, absolutely not ew. I knew somebody in high school who would drink milk like with her meals, and she was like very tall and pale and like fair and like it was. I was like, well, like you're tall, like you obviously have strong bones, but she has like drink milk. And I was like it was so gross. 00:53:02 Speaker 2: Well, you haven't even you haven't answered you yet, you haven't said gift or a cur curse doing? 00:53:07 Speaker 3: What are you doing? It's a curse? Can you imagine? Cool glass of milk? 00:53:13 Speaker 2: A cool glass of milk. I'm grossing myself out of this. Fine, that's too much. I apologize to the listeners far and wide. 00:53:25 Speaker 3: I am. 00:53:25 Speaker 2: I'm driving listeners away. This is a real self sabotage on my part. Naomi two for two. A cool glass, a cool glass of milk on its own. What are we talking about? At no point do I just want to be drinking milk context free with a cookie. I'm on board. Yes, I've been very clear, I will drink that with a cookie, but in no other situation do I want that beverage. 00:53:55 Speaker 3: I also like even with a cookie, like like I like. I definitely I like milk with sweets. But I'm also not even gonna have a lot of it, right Like, if I have a little sip, it's almost cleansing of the palate. But if that cookie's done and there's leftover milk, I'm not finishing that milk. It's over that. Milk's over that. 00:54:13 Speaker 2: I understand that. That's why I'm very I really, I mean, to the point of not enjoying either thing. I calculated my brain. I'm eating this much of the sweet, I'm drinking this much of the milk. Yes, I'm eating this much, and then you know, they kind of are both gone at the same time. Anyone who's drinking milk with you know, a pizza or this sort of thing, I just I don't even know where to begin with the mental state of this person. What are we doing culturally? I don't understand it. 00:54:41 Speaker 3: Okay. The one thing I will say, though, how do you feel about milk with sweet breakfast? I'm gonna tell you this. I like milk with my pancakes or like a waffle really because I like dessert to me. You know, it's a pancakes syrup. It's like so sweet. I like a milk with that. 00:54:58 Speaker 2: See, I could if I have if it it has like a like let's say, let's have a peanut butter banana waffle. I could get behind milk with that because you need you need to cut through all that. But usually I prefer a black coffee with a sweet dessert. 00:55:11 Speaker 3: I like the. 00:55:11 Speaker 2: The balance of that, but I can, I can get behind that. And also, milk does seem like a as far as a meal goes an early morning meal. You're not having that with lunch. I mean with your tuna sandwich. 00:55:25 Speaker 3: What am I running from you? 00:55:28 Speaker 2: If you're doing that, you're absolutely you're hiding something and you're not hiding it. Well that's what's happening. Okay, Wow, I mean, who knows you might make gift or a curse history. I don't know that anyone has ever won this game before, so the pressure is just crushing it at this point. And I'll also say this is a history making part of this game, because they're all listener suggestions. This next one is from a listener named Morgan gift or a curse? All inclusive resorts? All inclusive resorts? Are they a gift or are they a curse? 00:56:04 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this. They're a curse because what they include is never what you want. Okay, what is ever included is not what you want. It's like one Continental breakfast with half a Krusty bagel, you know what I mean. Like it's like all inclusive, they don't be giving you to do. And then it's like if you're like I want a vegetable, They're like, you're gonna have to pay twenty dollars for that vegetable at that restaurant, you know what I mean. Curse, curse. It sounds good, it sounds good. I did a cruise. I took a cruise once and I was like my only time. And I remember like being so excited because I was like, a cruise, it's gonna be nuts. And then I was like, they literally want me to just become a flotation device. They're only making trash acceptable. And then if you paid extra you could go to like the different you know, like restaurant where I think food was fresh. 00:56:57 Speaker 2: They only ring the bell. You have gotten three for three. I don't know that anyone's ever gotten three for three. All inclusive resorts are a curse from top to bottom. I've never been to one. I have been on a cruise, the closest thing. It's a you know, it's a jack of all trade situation. Nothing has done well to me. When you say all inclusive resort, that just means they have a soft serve ice cream machine. And I don't want anything to do with that. Who cares. I don't need somebody. I need to be able to pick everything I want. I will pay to go to the location, and then I will find the best of the things that I want. I don't need, you know, some manager of the cruise ship or the resort their taste of what's good, and then they're cutting, you know, cutting costsrame, you know, it's all. You know. I have to be able to plan every single detail, and all inclusive resort is not allowing me to do that. 00:57:54 Speaker 3: Yep, so it's not for me. 00:57:56 Speaker 2: I watched this documentary recently called Some Kind of Heaven, which I can't recommend enough. It's kind of about well, it's called the Villages. It's this retirement community in Florida and it's essentially an all inclusive resort. And while we were watching it, I said to Jim, my boyfriend, this is literally hell for me. Like it is not heaven, like they have everything for you, but it's all like the C minus version of whatever it is. It did have a nice looking bowling alley, but otherwise it looks just like torture. I can't have that happening for me. 00:58:31 Speaker 4: Wait, the documentary was about the retirement community. 00:58:35 Speaker 2: It is incredible. Everyone has to watch it. It's so beautiful and strange and sad. It's about this retirement community and I believe it's called the Villages and maybe the biggest retirement community in the United States. I'm just guessing maybe they say that in the documentary. I can't remember. But you follow these various people who live there. One who doesn't live there. He lives in his van and is trying to find a wealthy woman to get in a relationship with. It's pretty wild. 00:59:02 Speaker 3: I'm in. That's that's we're all into. 00:59:05 Speaker 2: We're all into that guy until we see the documentary and then it's it's a little rough. But yeah, all inclusive resorts, let's just all get on board. Yeah, it's a curse. And I apologize to listener Morgan. I hope you didn't have a dream time at an all inclusive resort and suddenly Naomi and I are telling you you're wrong. 00:59:28 Speaker 3: But that's what happened, Morgan. And that's the risk you run when. 00:59:31 Speaker 2: You write, when you submit you are you are stepping into an open field. And I have my sniper rifle. Yeah, is that too? Is that too scary of an analogy? It's hard to say, but that's the experience of I said no gifts. Sometimes it's frightening, right right, Okay, you're the big winner. Congratulations. Let's answer one question from listeners. This is called I said no questions. People are writing into I said no give at gmail dot com. These people have nowhere else to turn. They're emailing me, so aunt you so here. Let me read this. It says, dearest Bridger and whoever has the pleasure of joining you today. So she's assumed that you are going to have a good time. A big assumption, big swing for her. It says. This email is slightly different. I am not in need of a gift for someone else, but rather gifts suggestions for my own birthday. I'm the type of person to buy things I need when I need them, and with the holidays, just having passed, any ideas I had have already been gifted to me. I'm turning twenty three. I don't know what to tell people who are getting things for me. I'm a kindergarten teacher who lives in the Finger Lakes Wine region of New York. I have a cat named Squid. Oh that's an interesting. 01:00:45 Speaker 3: Okay, very close to your cat, Naid. Okay. 01:00:48 Speaker 2: I love reading and listening to Vinyl much love Katie. Katie is turning twenty three. She needs to tell people in her life what to get her. 01:00:58 Speaker 3: Katie, if you don't already have it and you're twenty three, ask somebody to get you ten free therapy sessions. You are in your early twenties, You're a mess, Okay, no matter what's going on with you, you a mess. And if you ain't a mess now, you're going to be a mess. And you need to just kind of work on getting your head right in the Finger Lakes with your Vinyl. 01:01:18 Speaker 2: I love the suggestion early therapy before you, like me, realize in so many myriad ways why you need it more than anything. Just get ahead of You've got to get ahead of it. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: You've got to. 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Get into the therapy, have a nice time, Go have somebody you can just reveal all secrets, to reveal your traumas, get through these things, and then live a full of nice adult life. That sense, that's lovely, I think so. 01:01:46 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, they say it's easier to ask for help when you need it if you practice asking when you don't. 01:01:53 Speaker 2: I've never heard that, and that's probably why I have such a hard time. 01:01:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you strike me as someone who doesn't let people blend breacher, Like you're really like, I've got this, and I have a ride joke and then it's like, okay, Bridger, who hurt you? Underneath? 01:02:10 Speaker 2: You know? The list is just far too long to get into, and I just don't want to burden anyone with that. 01:02:19 Speaker 1: No. 01:02:19 Speaker 2: I love that, you know, And I also like that Katie has come in with just these clear interests. She likes the cat, she likes to read, and she likes to listen to music. 01:02:30 Speaker 3: Do you read it all? 01:02:30 Speaker 2: Naomi? 01:02:32 Speaker 4: You know, I'm trying to get back into reading. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: I used to be a real book machine, and I don't and I think it's like I don't know what it is. It's like something in the in the last few years. I have it right now though I have started this book. It's actually a ya book, but I'm really like loving it. It's a good gateway called The Mysterious Benedict Society. 01:02:48 Speaker 2: Wow, a partner Nincherilla was just on this podcast recommending this thing, and that's why she apparently is a rep for the book. She's got some sort of financial stake in this series success. 01:03:04 Speaker 3: It's fun. It really keeps you going and it's like, I don't know, I like, you know, it's like I want to be taken away, like I'm into the fan to see the magic Senny, the Harry Potters. 01:03:14 Speaker 4: Especially nowadays, I'm on board, so it's like a quick read. 01:03:16 Speaker 2: It's like quick, I'm one chapter away from my current book being done, and then I always spiral thinking about what am I going to read again. I now have this. This is an incredible recommendation for me, and Katie does too. The Mysterious Benedict Society. 01:03:29 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and it's a series too, I think, so like there's a few so you know, you get into it. You've got you got some good I love. 01:03:37 Speaker 2: You know. That just sets you up. You're like, I don't have to worry about thinking of another book for five books, right exactly? Wait, what are you about to finish? It's called Olive again? Have you heard of Olive Kidderridge. Yes, it's the sequel to that book, which was an HBO mini series which I loved. I think it's just lovely and funny and a little bit sad. But they're kind of short stories, but this character is recurring in all of them, so it's a very easy read, despite being beautifully written. Yeah, so I can recommend that too. But so now we've gotten too you know. I feel like you've got two excellent book recommendations here, Katie, I can't. As far as vinyl music, is there any music you can recommend? 01:04:22 Speaker 1: No? 01:04:22 Speaker 3: I listened to the same stuff over and over, Like I don't keep up with new music. I'm still listening to. 01:04:26 Speaker 2: What's a favorite album, Honey. 01:04:28 Speaker 3: I listen to In the Heights soundtrack twenty times. It's like, you know, it's like, I'm not very good. 01:04:35 Speaker 2: But In the Heights on vinyl, I don't know, they probably offer it. 01:04:40 Speaker 3: A friend of mine said there's like a Rihanna album he had. It's on they didn't make a lot of them on vinyl. He says, like worth over three hundred bucks. He's like a vinyl person. And it's like, because they didn't do a lot of pressings. If you got this album, it's like holy shit. And I'm like, what, I didn't realize that was still happening. Like I thought vinyl it was like the older stuff that was valuable, right, But no, now it's like with. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: A Rihanna, she's not the first person you think of when you think of vinyl, so that kind of makes sense to me where it's like, well, yeah, I guess she probably is like, sure, make a hundred and now it's probably the rarest vinyl of all time, right, I will say, Uh, Katie, there's an album by the band Sparks. They have an album called Propaganda, which is my favorite album cover of all time, and you could get that on vinyl. Then you've got this beautiful album cover too, and it's very fun music. 01:05:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of music is it? 01:05:31 Speaker 2: It's like I would say, it's uh, glam rock, proto devo, stop stops. 01:05:41 Speaker 3: No, it's very funny, Like I don't know music genres. So if you like get out of the top four and you start like saying stuff like that, I'm like, nah, I don't know what it means. I don't know what it means. 01:05:50 Speaker 2: Like I feel like you would like this. It's got these great drum beats, it's got it's a little theatricals, got a good sense of humor. 01:05:57 Speaker 3: I like good vocals. I'm not here you love. 01:05:58 Speaker 2: These vocals, Yes, you will love these vocals. I can guarantee beautiful singing. Go for get yourself in the heights, get this mysterious Rihanna album and get yourself sparks propaganda look at I mean, I truly if Katie doesn't have a happy birthday at this point, that's well, that will go back to the therapy. Naomi, We've nailed it. 01:06:21 Speaker 3: I mean you have. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: You are the first guest who has just come in and just steamrolled all of the challenges. It's incredible and thank God because you gave me this disgusting gift which I'm now kind of saddled with here. But that's fine. 01:06:41 Speaker 3: I'm keeping it. 01:06:42 Speaker 2: I'm keeping it as the test. I'm keeping it as the test. After COVID the first person that comes over, I will see how honest they've been in their dealings with me, So we'll see what happens. Naomi, thank you for being here. You're just wonderful. 01:06:58 Speaker 3: Thank you. It's a good time. This is our first time meeting you know. I've heard your na yes for a while and so it's so lovely to meet you there. 01:07:05 Speaker 2: I know, it's absolutely wonderful to meet you. And hopefully at some point in the future will cross pads. We won't be wearing masks, and the virus will have will be a faint memory. 01:07:15 Speaker 4: Ah, it. 01:07:18 Speaker 3: Will never it will never be it will always be potent. 01:07:24 Speaker 2: It will be a horrifying memory which we can ignore the topic. All right, Well, thank you and listener, this is the end of the podcast. You know, I'm slamming the brakes. You're moving on with your life, or maybe you're just hitting rewind and listening to the episode over, because I do want you to listen over and over and come follow us on Instagram. If you're not doing that, you're not going to see these gummy bears, and that's going to be a damn shame. 01:07:50 Speaker 3: Goodbye. 01:07:50 Speaker 2: I love you. I said no gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend on A. Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said, no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads. 01:08:27 Speaker 1: And I invit did you hear? Funna Man myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to me. You gotta come to me empty And I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff. So how did you dare to survey me? 01:09:02 Speaker 3: Fifteen