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Speaker 1: It is Dallas Cowboys CEO Steven Jones. Good morning, sir,

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Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm curious what your take, what the organization's

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Speaker 1: take is. Do you view after last night's game and

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Speaker 1: the results of the other teams in the division this weekend,

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Speaker 1: do you view the playoff chase as over or not? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We right now where we are is it's it's just

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Speaker 1: week to week. We've got to go out and go

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Speaker 1: to work every day. Obviously, uh, you know, on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, especially the running game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just uh, you know, we're not executing

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Speaker 1: right now. We're not We're not good at stopping the run. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it speaks for itself. We played a team who's really uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, who is really efficient running the football, and

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Speaker 1: certainly our inefficiency showed up. And you know, right now

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Speaker 1: we've got to focus on as uh, you know, we

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Speaker 1: got to go to work every day and and try

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Speaker 1: to get better. You know, there's there's certainly some positive things,

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Speaker 1: you know that we did offensively, and certainly Pilot had

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Speaker 1: a nice a kick return that gave us some energy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we're just not getting it done on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball right now. Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised that the defense, specifically the run defense hasn't become

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Speaker 1: any more efficient or effective as the season has gone on. Well, certainly,

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Speaker 1: I know it's frustrating to everybody, whether it's our coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the players. You know, that's just a you know,

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Speaker 1: the the number one thing on defense ever since I've

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Speaker 1: been in this league. Any coach you talked to us

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Speaker 1: to stop the run, and when you don't do that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you you end up in the type of

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Speaker 1: situation we are right now, which is, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not winning many football games and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're just not getting a run stopped. And it's certainly,

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Speaker 1: you know, difficult for a football team when you can't

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Speaker 1: stop the run. Steven, When when you and Mike talk, McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: I know, and I know you you guys talk a lot,

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Speaker 1: because that's what the part of the job is. Do

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Speaker 1: you do you feel like the two of you feel

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Speaker 1: like the talent is there or do you feel like

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Speaker 1: something still missing on the field? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to get our hands around. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, Mike's first year. He's trying

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Speaker 1: to get his hands around it. You know. I know,

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Speaker 1: we feel like, you know, the guys can ultimately execute

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Speaker 1: what we needed to execute. I think we've got good

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Speaker 1: football players. It's just right now, you know, we're just

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Speaker 1: not executing. I mean that's a you know, a similar

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Speaker 1: were you know, certainly weren't that weren't inefficient against the run.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm convinced we can get the job done.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, for whatever the reason, right now,

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Speaker 1: it's not getting done. I was asked this on radio

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Speaker 1: in Canada yesterday. As a matter of fact, Steven, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always been in Canada. Have you gotten a fair assessment

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Speaker 1: of your players, your team and your coaching staff this year?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've gotten a fair setpen of those?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think when it's all said and done,

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Speaker 1: work in progress. I think obviously, you know, we're we're

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Speaker 1: looking at all the moving parts that we have this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things you look to on

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Speaker 1: When you take a look at our inabilities to have

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Speaker 1: we got to look at the full body of work

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Speaker 1: when this is all said and done, and as I

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Speaker 1: said to start the show, we've just got to go

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Speaker 1: hopefully turned the corner. We thought we were doing that

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Speaker 1: at one point this year. But I mean at one

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Speaker 1: And then obviously the last two weeks we've taken a

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Speaker 1: and I thought the offensive line, for the guys that

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Speaker 1: I thought we ran the ball well when we needed

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Speaker 1: made those field goals. But uh, you know that's why.

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Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, you want

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Speaker 1: where we've got to get more efficient as we move forward.

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Speaker 1: But I thought over all, the offense, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think execution wise, you know that you can win

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Speaker 1: with Well and Steven. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were freshtrated. I saw this on social media last night

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Speaker 1: with the kicking situation. Every in Kai Forbath's name kept

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Speaker 1: some kind of curious as what you've seen happen there. Well,

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Speaker 1: Greg's a talented guy, and uh, certainly you just uh,

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Speaker 1: I think he, you know, certainly has all the talent

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Speaker 1: You've got a powerful leg. You know those were you know,

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Speaker 1: certainly not chip shots. Two of the three were certainly

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Speaker 1: But you know, we just got a you know, that

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Speaker 1: just for you. I'm sure all teams have to do

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Speaker 1: that's like you said, that's the balancing act. You certainly

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Speaker 1: And certainly that's what we'll be doing in the off

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Speaker 1: in terms of, uh, you know, making improvement and uh

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football, Steve, And I know

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Speaker 1: effort and energy of your team? Well, I don't, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I certainly respect that. But uh, you know, we're we're

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Speaker 1: looking at you know, how hard our players are playing.

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Speaker 1: I do see effort, you know, on both sides of

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Speaker 1: that kind of along those lines. Does it frustrate you

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Speaker 1: Does it frustrate you when the questions start to steer

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what certainly, the job is of people

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Speaker 1: going forward. John Daniels, who is the president of baseball

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Speaker 1: year plan. I was wondering when it comes to NFL football,

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Speaker 1: because it's different. You guys don't have a minor league

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Speaker 1: You don't kind of own one hundred and fifty minor

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Speaker 1: a one year, three year, five year planner? How does

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Speaker 1: that work? Absolutely? I mean, you're certainly looking to give

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Speaker 1: signed Lyle a couple of years ago. All those things

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Speaker 1: You know. But one thing about the NFL, which everybody sees,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it very much and thanks for jumping on with

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Have a good week.