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Speaker 2: Welcome to True Crime Tonight on iHeartRadio. We're talking true

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Speaker 2: crime all the time. It's Wednesday, November fifth, and we

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Speaker 2: in a twenty five year old missing person's case, plus

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Speaker 2: the nanny who allegedly stabbed the grandfather of the toddler

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Speaker 2: that she was caring for, stabbed him to death, and

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Speaker 2: Chill It's wednesday, night, everybody so we're going to finally

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Speaker 2: be discussing The Perfect neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Watched we want to hear your talkbacks or call in

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Speaker 2: if you have some opinions to. Share I'm Stephanie leidecker

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Speaker 2: here of, course With Courtney armstrong and body move. In

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Speaker 2: hope you guys had a great. Day so, far so,

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Speaker 2: Beautiful and of course we Have, Taja sam And adam

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Speaker 2: with us as. Well so let's get this night started

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Speaker 2: and start off with a talk.

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Speaker 5: Pack, hi, team this Is alicia From atlanta. AGAIN i

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Speaker 5: hope all is. WELL i need a huge Favor if

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Speaker 5: you don't, mind can you see if you can get

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Speaker 5: an update on the story in regards to a family

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Speaker 5: the Dead men's who have stated to have concealed the

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Speaker 5: body of nine year Old Asha, degree who went missing And,

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Speaker 5: Shelby North carolina On february, fourteenth two. THOUSAND i haven't

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Speaker 5: had much information about the story, recently hope you can.

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Speaker 3: Help awesome you talk.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah it was a great, talkback AND i love your. Specificity,

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Speaker 4: yeah so, true really so. Useful and we actually do

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Speaker 4: have an. Update so the case is more than twenty

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Speaker 4: five years old and nine year Old Asha degree. Disappeared

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Speaker 4: she had left Her North carolina home in the very

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Speaker 4: early hour mornings Of february, fourteenth two. Thousand it was,

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Speaker 4: storming and she was last seen walking Along highway. Eighteen

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Speaker 4: she then appeared to vanish into nearby. Woods despite really

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Speaker 4: investigations by local authorities by THE, fbi only her buried

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Speaker 4: book bag and some scattered belongings have ever been. Recovered,

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Speaker 4: however the case is now considered an abduction and a homicide,

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Speaker 4: investigation and investigators have renewed to focus on a car

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Speaker 4: tied to local Residents roy And Connie.

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Speaker 3: Deadman so who you mentioned in you.

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Speaker 4: Talkback they were named suspects in a search warrant last.

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Speaker 4: Year they have publicly denied. Involvement it's important to, note

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Speaker 4: but they're.

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Speaker 3: Mad about it.

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Speaker 2: Too they're mad about, it even being associaling with the

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Speaker 2: case one way or the. Other and, again if they're,

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Speaker 2: innocent it is a terrible thing to be connected.

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Speaker 3: Too but that, said there is these new.

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Speaker 4: Developments, Yeah so investigators have seized a green nineteen sixty

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Speaker 4: FOUR Amc rambler and that is the central piece of physical.

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Speaker 4: Evidence and the reason is because there were reports of

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Speaker 4: a similar vehicle seen near nine year Old ash's disappearance

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Speaker 4: when she was last. Seen so The deadman family and

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Speaker 4: they are speaking through a, spokesperson they denied owning the

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Speaker 4: records show it was not registered to them until one

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Speaker 4: month after nine year Old asha's. Disappearance And stephanie to your,

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Speaker 4: point The deadmond, family they say they have faced fear

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Speaker 4: and stress and reputational. Damage but still investigators are looking

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Speaker 4: pretty heartily into this. Car but no arrests or charges

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Speaker 6: Announced when you buy a, car you have a grace

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Speaker 6: period and when you can register in the. Car so

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Speaker 6: just because it was not registered to them doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: It do you took the words out of my? Mouth

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Speaker 2: that's oh my, Yeah like even hear them saying this. Specificness,

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Speaker 2: again we're not piling on to people who say they

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Speaker 2: are not, guilty but just for the play, along just

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Speaker 2: because the car is not. Registered you, know different would

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Speaker 2: be if they SAID i never owned that car or

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Speaker 6: Car SO i, mean there's got to be something to

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Speaker 6: the deadman's that they're continuing to look into, them, Right,

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Speaker 6: like there's got to be something. There THE fbi is,

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Speaker 6: Involved they're not just going to be, like, oh you

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Speaker 6: registered a, Car you're definitely not a. Suspect there's got

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Speaker 6: to be something, there, Right whether or not it's meaningful or,

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Speaker 2: Idea but and on the other side of, that can

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Speaker 2: you imagine being associated with a case where it's a

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Speaker 2: missing nine year old twenty five years, later you're going

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Speaker 2: on with your life and you have no knowledge of,

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Speaker 2: this and now you're being accused in.

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Speaker 3: Print that's really hard to come back from.

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Speaker 2: Too AND i say hats off to law enforcement who

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Speaker 3: Years twenty five years.

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Speaker 6: Later, Yeah and my understanding is, too they just put

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Speaker 6: up some billboards along that. HIGHWAY i just went looked

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Speaker 6: and they're OFFERING i guess there's a combined reward of

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Speaker 6: one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 6: Wow and they put some billboards along the highway where

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Speaker 6: she was last.

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Speaker 2: Seen, yeah we're working on a different project. TOO i

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Speaker 2: can't even say that the law enforcement agency, yet But

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Speaker 2: i'm not being, cagy but simply because What i've learned

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Speaker 2: on this project is that rewards are very hard to.

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Speaker 2: Aggregate so for law, enforcement think about, it it's like

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Speaker 2: a huge hassle, too, Right, so but it really is

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Speaker 2: probably the most effective draw for tips of.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah And asha the missing, girl her, Parents harold

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Speaker 4: And akia degree they still continue to hold annual walks

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Speaker 4: every year to the location of her last note and.

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Speaker 4: Sighting and it's very strange how she disappeared against she

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Speaker 4: Wow and it seems that she disappeared between two thirty

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Speaker 4: contained unfamiliar items is what it's quoted. As that included

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Speaker 4: A Doctor seuss, Book New kid on The BLOCK t

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Speaker 4: shirt and that was fine found buried twenty six miles

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Speaker 6: Correct, Okay so it was found buried and there were unfamiliar,

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Speaker 4: THAT i, mean that's HOW i read. That that's Why

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Speaker 3: It, yeah if you have a nine year, old you

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Speaker 3: know what their t shirts? Are you, know you do.

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Speaker 2: All their, laundry, laundewers, wow you, know even their books

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Speaker 2: or what's in their book bag is pretty you, know

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Speaker 2: it's a tight leash at that.

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Speaker 3: Point you know why two o'clock in the. MORNING i.

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Speaker 3: WONDER i don't.

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Speaker 6: Know this was in two thousand that she went, Missing

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Speaker 6: SO i MEAN i don't.

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Speaker 3: KNOW i MEAN i WHEN i was.

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Speaker 6: NINE i ran. AWAY i MEAN i you, know packed

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Speaker 3: Leaving but not at two o'clock in the. MORNING i did,

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Speaker 3: it you? Know and how long did you run away?

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Speaker 3: Before was that? Short? Lived were home within twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Minutes, yeah it's Our maybe you really want people to

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Speaker 6: Didn't it was kind of like a stick kind of,

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Speaker 2: Shoulder who is following very organized. Departure but, YEAH i get,

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Speaker 2: would have to be the worst feeling in all the.

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Speaker 3: Land is just the idea of your baby missing.

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Speaker 4: Unimaginable so we'll continue to keep you updated as new

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Speaker 4: information does come.

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Speaker 3: Out this is True crime. Tonight we are On. iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: I'm Courtney, Armstrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm lucky to be here with A Body moving And

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Speaker 4: Stephanie laidecker and we've been talking about the disappearance of

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Speaker 4: nine year Old Asha. Degree we'd love to hear your.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah remember Yesterday stephanie were telling us about that anchor,

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Speaker 6: woman yes who like kind of murdered her mom and

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Speaker 6: murdered her, mom AND i brought up this story From. Detroit,

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Speaker 6: yes well this is the Story i'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 6: Guys so she's A michigan. Nanny her name Is Samantha

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Speaker 6: booth and she allegedly stabbed her eighty three year old

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Speaker 6: the eighty three year Old David onng with the screwdriver

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Speaker 6: and attacked his toddler, granddaughter leading to her arrest and multiple.

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Speaker 6: Charges so here's what. Happened samantha is the. Nanny, okay

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Speaker 6: she's babysitting her. Daughter, right can't get ahold of. Her,

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Speaker 6: she calls her, Dad. David, Okay david, on and she's,

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Speaker 6: like can you please go check on my house and

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Speaker 6: Okay of, course he doesn't call his daughter because he's

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Speaker 6: mom is, like, okay just set my dad. Over so

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Speaker 6: she calls her brother in. Law brother in law goes

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Speaker 6: david is. Injured he's, like oh my. God he scoops

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Speaker 6: is kind of the nanny it covered in blood with

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Speaker 6: what so they get away though and call nine one.

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Speaker 6: ONE i, mean this is just you, Know i'm telling

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Speaker 6: you something in the water because this is so familiar

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Speaker 6: with this anchor. Story it just you, know a little

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Speaker 6: bit scoops him up and leaves gets gets out of.

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Speaker 6: There and the uncle because this is the, uncle the

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Speaker 6: they were able to escape to another home and call

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Speaker 6: nine when, one but they did sustain some. Injuries the accused, Nanny,

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Speaker 6: samantha stripped naked and dropped the screwdriver before police arrived

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Speaker 6: and arrested. Her the police reportedly found psychedelic mushrooms In samantha's,

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Speaker 6: influenceror not during the. Attack samantha had previously known the

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Speaker 6: Wow, unfortunately the grandfather did come to his injuries and he.

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Speaker 2: of the darkest corners of The. Internet it's the seven six'

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Speaker 3: Crime tonight.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back To True crime Tonight. On iHeartRadio we're talking

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Speaker 2: true crime all. The Time I'm stephanie LEIDECKER and i

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Speaker 2: And documentaries two of the podcasts that are currently out

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Speaker 2: Now on iHeart, in cells which is. So great courtney

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Speaker 2: IT out a new episode out now and that kind

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Speaker 3: It out we're in the.

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Speaker 2: Final stretch of, this chapter so it's hard, to imagine hard,

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Speaker 3: Talkbo quocus so.

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Speaker 8: South carolina this is. Super random but Every time stephanie

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Speaker 2: GREAT day i don't even REALIZE that i say that.

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Speaker 4: That's funny she is. Absolutely correct period the end is

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Speaker 6: The, end yeah it's just kind of you, just talk,

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Speaker 2: Right amount, so yes we were, you know you know obviously,

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Speaker 4: Fear mongering it is a sharing. Of information so it's

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Speaker 3: They're too afraid to go and ask.

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Speaker 6: For help oh, my god it'll be like then my

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Speaker 4: Of background the group was founded by a teen a

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Speaker 4: caden head and he Is, From. Stephenville texas the group

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Speaker 4: Of, a sentencing the judge said, to him there is

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Speaker 2: I mean eighty years says it, all right like that's a.

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Speaker 4: And it seems in his case that he was motivated

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Speaker 4: A game i use that word because that's the word

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Speaker 2: Go, right yeah how much can you? Humiliate, that well

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Speaker 6: take photos and other times they'll tell the child to

437
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 6: kill the. Family cat, it's yeah and they just keep

438
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 6: one upping, each other and it's almost like who can

439
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 6: be the? Bigger troll and and it's very much a, control, Thing,

440
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 6: right like look at all THE control i have over

441
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 6: these people because they're not really, getting, money right there's

442
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 6: no money to be really. Made here this is just

443
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 6: about power, and control.

444
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 4: That's Right And, abigail becchio she's the chief Of FBI's

445
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: Child Exploitation. Operational unit she Has warned i've seen several interviews,

446
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 4: with her and she warns of the severity and the

447
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: speed at which children can. Become victimized and one thing

448
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: she said really stuck. With me, she said offenders can

449
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: quote change your child's life in a matter, of minutes.

450
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 6: And trauma that a child would experience going, through this like,

451
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 6: you said a prison in their, own, Mind, right, YES

452
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 6: yes i have to kill the family, hamster otherwise otherwise

453
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 6: they're going TO, DO x Y and z.

454
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 4: To me they're going to kill my they're going to kill.

455
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: My parents they're going to, send, they'll they'll they'll urge

456
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: and really blackmail these children into. Different humiliations sort of

457
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: take a video of yourself vomiting and then you hold

458
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 4: that over a child's head, And say i'm going to

459
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: spread this to.

460
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Speaker 2: YOUR school i will ruin your life. With this see

461
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: how your non friends like? This, picture yeah wait till

462
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: they find out that YOU, DID x Y. And z

463
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: you know that's hard for an adult. To, handle yeah

464
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: that's unimaginable On a now, you know. Picture yourself maybe,

465
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: You're online you've gone to a place you weren't maybe,

466
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: supposed to so you're already outside of your comfort zone as.

467
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: A kid you don't want to get.

468
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: In trouble now you're sort of being lured by, these creeps,

469
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: and yeah how do you get out?

470
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 9: Of?

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00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 4: That, Wow yeah and just a little bit more of

472
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: how it often tends to unfold it the methods, of

473
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 4: operation if. You will it often happens in private online forums.

474
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: Such as Discord.

475
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: And yeah the members of seven six four they maintain

476
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: strict control and to invite only, chat rooms and with

477
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: that then live video, chats happen recording and video sharing between,

478
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: different members which also very, very sadly then if you

479
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: are a victim of, one perpetrator you then very are often,

480
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: a perpetrator or, excuse me a victim of, multiple perpetrators

481
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: because they have the video and they have just as,

482
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 4: much power and now you are in their control. As

483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: well It's very it, just snowballs and. It starts it

484
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 4: starts with grooming tactics we've spoken. About before it starts,

485
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: with hey HOW about i send you some roebucks or, you,

486
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: know hey and it starts, really, nice yeah and then

487
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: it turns.

488
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 3: To blackmail.

489
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Speaker 6: This is true crime Tonight on iHeartRadio And boddy Moving

490
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 6: and i'm Here with Courtney. And steffan we're right in

491
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 6: the middle of talking about this really dangerous online group

492
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 6: called seven six four and how they're. MANIPULATING children i

493
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 6: don't want to take up too, Much, time courtney what

494
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 6: can what can? We do what can we tell our

495
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 6: listeners to look out for or is there some advice

496
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 6: that we can give to help them let their kids know?

497
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 6: About this is that even whise, like it.

498
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 3: You know here's here's what experts. Have said.

499
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: Early reporting is critical if you know what, is happening

500
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 4: and it's very important because then what you are able to,

501
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: identify victims, these brave, brave victims then they, can ultimately,

502
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: you know have people put. BEHIND bars i did want

503
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: to give a couple of bits of information that a

504
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the reporting has come Through

505
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 4: The national Center for Missing And exploited children and their

506
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: Website is missingkids dot org and you can call the,

507
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: phone number it's one eight Hundred the lost and they

508
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: will really. Help you they will connect you WITH the

509
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: fbi or your local. Law enforcement but it's watching for signs.

510
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: Of kids it's a lot of what we've been. Talking

511
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: about are, they withdrawn are they eating or? Not eating

512
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: are they sleeping or, Not sleeping and just knowing that

513
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: children are targeted because they are they, are vulnerable and

514
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: they have a much higher likelihood of accepting a. Dominant

515
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: figure and it often is people who are looking looking

516
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: for something who perhaps they're they're searching for something that

517
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: may not be in, their homes which makes it hard,

518
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: to say pay careful attention to.

519
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: Your CHILD but i.

520
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: Mean they're targeting vulnerable, Children too so like kids maybe

521
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: that maybe not have a, good friends, you know maybe

522
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 6: or and they are lamenting about, that, online right and

523
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: then they get targeted, that way maybe through. A game

524
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 6: i would recommend blocking discord and like telegram from, your

525
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: routers and if you have something like the, bar, gap

526
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 6: right like making sure that discord and telegrams SPECIFICALLY are

527
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 6: i just.

528
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 10: Did after you brought. That up what's a good way

529
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 10: for parents To protect they just did a quick search

530
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 10: and it's just some of the things we, talk about but.

531
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 10: Pretty general but open communication is a. Key thing setting

532
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 10: up boundaries and modern use is an, important one and

533
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 10: educating them about the platforms and the risks so that.

534
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 10: They're aware but the parents need to also stay up

535
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 10: to date on some of these trends as a lot

536
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 10: of sometimes we'll just, you know not be aware of.

537
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 10: What's happening and also teaching your kids some self. Protection

538
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 10: skills so it's heavy stuff, for children but you need

539
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 10: to be aware and they need to be aware so

540
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 10: the parents can.

541
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: Guide, them YEAH and, i think as, you said body

542
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: blocking the channels that are invite only and just not

543
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: having any access to that because that seems really then

544
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: they are their own. Private audiences and also this group

545
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: is fairly, new again it's only, years old and yet it,

546
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 4: is worldwide. This, group wow some members have escalated to

547
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: knife attacks and to. Shootings offline there's concern that this

548
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: activity could expand just wildly with how much it has

549
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: already in a. Short time so this is just a

550
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: very serious topic that we were not. Awares of and then,

551
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: you know speaking for all of us in, this room.

552
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: And we thought there Should, be yeah information, is everything,

553
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: you know and we don't want to scare either.

554
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: Little bit it's like you need.

555
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 10: To know that sometimes it's a little bit of being

556
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 10: scared street like you have scared to.

557
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 6: Just, know yeah like even maybe just telling your children that,

558
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: this group there are groups like this and because a

559
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: lot the kids are scared to talk to mom and dad, about,

560
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 6: It right like they're scared and letting, them, know, LIKE

561
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 6: hey i know about. This group if there's something like

562
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 6: this happens, TO you i don't want you to be

563
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 6: afraid to come talk. TO me i don't even know

564
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 6: if that, would work but it's a start, To, start yeah.

565
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: To start we have some more talkbacks that we want to.

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00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: Dig into.

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Speaker 11: Hi guys This is Andy. FROM minnesota I Watched A

568
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 11: perfect neighbor Ahead Of true Crime, and CHILL and i

569
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 11: won't give any, spoiler ALERTS but i was absolutely infuriated watching.

570
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 11: THAT doctor i cannot believe that people still treat people

571
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 11: like this in this day.

572
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: And age in.

573
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 11: This country we could be doing so.

574
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 3: Much better.

575
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 11: Thank, you Anyways as stephanie, would.

576
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Say oh i'm didn't pay. My pants oh SO do

577
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: i say?

578
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 6: That?

579
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: Too, okay, fine yeah well well that. SOUNDS horrible i couldn't. Agree.

580
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: Though more that's why we have to evaluate Our next

581
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: true crime. And trail my nervous system cannot handle the

582
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: ANGER that i felt watching.

583
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: THIS one i know we'll get to it, next segment,

584
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: BUT yeah i get so worked up sometimes watching.

585
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: This stuff that that's why it's important that we're discussing

586
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: it right because obviously it's a hot.

587
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Button and thank god for body, cam footage but, my

588
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: goodness it makes me so. Wildly mad so, great talk,

589
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: thank you. Thank, you yeah we should be doing so.

590
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: Much better we could be doing so. Much, better agreed

591
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: we have to. Do better we are better, the end we,

592
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: are better period. THE end i.

593
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 10: Love it. Thank you let's.

594
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: Go too, hey guys This is Brittany.

595
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 12: FROM ohio i just want to let YOU know i

596
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 12: am listening to your.

597
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 7: Podcast from last night where you guys are talking about

598
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: crockpot recipes In The. MISSISSIPPI roast i instead of using

599
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 7: forks and knives or, TWO forks i use my hand

600
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 7: mixer to shed things in.

601
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 10: The crockpot it.

602
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 12: Does make a little bit of, a mess and you

603
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 12: don't want to do it for too.

604
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 7: Long otherwise it'll make it.

605
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: Too small but.

606
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 7: Shredding with the hand mixer is far easier than doing

607
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: it the.

608
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Other way love, YOU guys i do, that too and

609
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 3: you do do. That, body yeah the.

610
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 10: Hand, MIXER okay i.

611
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: Ever have thought, of that and it makes me.

612
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: So easy she's one hundred. PERCENT right i don't do

613
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 6: it all, the, time but like, you know most of,

614
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: The times i'll use a. HAND mixer i bought one specifically.

615
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: FOR them i don't.

616
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 10: Own one it seems like wouldn't it, get messy? Doesn't?

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00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: It, like no you put in.

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00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: A bowl you just put it in a little. Like chicken,

619
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 6: let's say like a couple of. Chicken breasts you put

620
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 6: it in, a bowl and then you use the hand

621
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 6: mixer and you just it.

622
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: SHREDS instantly i was suggesting that it probably like jumped

623
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: out of the bowl a little.

624
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 10: Bit like it.

625
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: Might flattery but but and you do it after, it's, cooked,

626
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 6: right right, RIGHT right i mean obviously.

627
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: You don't it's like a.

628
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: Little softer by, THE way i did buy the prime

629
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: THE uh i bought.

630
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: SO good i bought. The beef but by the way

631
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: that to, THE grocer. I couldn't.

632
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: IT didn't i didn't have enough time to. Slow Cook

633
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: so i'm doing. That tomorrow so. Great tip one thing,

634
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: ABOUT moving i don't have all, the, STUFF right i.

635
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: DON'T know i kind of like having like empty empty Cabin.

636
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 6: The mississippi, pot roast so you really don't. Need it

637
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 6: it literally will.

638
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: Fall apart i'm going to get a, hand, mixer though

639
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: because it is good to have that in.

640
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 6: THE house i use IT because i make a lot,

641
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 6: of CHICKEN so i use it specifically for chicken like

642
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 6: brust and, not thyes because the bones and stuff are.

643
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: In there but like brust, and, stuff yes just shreads.

644
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: So easy if you have a lot, OF chicken i

645
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 6: definitely recommend getting a hammexer and doing it.

646
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: That way, all right add this to. My list you

647
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: guys are my life on.

648
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: The daily i'll have a report on my.

649
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: Don't forget the.

650
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: Ranch packet we have, another Talk pac Let's Go Hey true.

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Speaker 9: Crime tonight This, is jess your biggest Fan. FROM pennsylvania

652
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 9: i just want to let you KNOW that i love.

653
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 9: The show you guys. ARE amazing i look forward to listening,

654
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 9: every MORNING and i wanted to tell, You, THAT steph

655
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 9: i totally agree. With you my food that is way

656
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 9: too much work for way too little food is chicken wings,

657
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 9: new BANANAS and i will always go boneless.

658
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: EVERY time i love, You, guys.

659
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 6: Okay is that not?

660
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: The truth like chicken wings are such a, tall order

661
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: like everyone makes such a big thing.

662
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: ABOUT that i, love THEM so i agree with. That

663
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: one there's never any meat. ON them i can't eat

664
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: the WINGS because i can't eat stuff with bones. In

665
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: them it freaks. Me out it's too much reality. For me.

666
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 6: This is too like a being like like this IS

667
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 6: an i know that this is like a ch a

668
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: THING like i, can't YEAH like i can't.

669
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 10: Do that i'm always going to think that thank.

670
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: You rings FOR everybody i used to really loved by

671
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: chicken BACK when i could.

672
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: Eat GLUTEN but i know that's not even.

673
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 6: Real FOOD probably i can't eat sorry fish, with BONES

674
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 6: like i can't.

675
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: EAT ribs. I can't i CAN do i can. The, spirits, yeah, no, YES.

676
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 10: No i can do. It all That's why i'm making

677
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 10: that Face because, I'M like i can't FEEL like i

678
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 10: can eat every single thing. You're naming SO but i

679
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 10: agree with her point about it is a lot. Of

680
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 10: WORK and i have that more with like lobster when people.

681
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: Are, like oh you get the. Whole lot can't, Do

682
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: that like.

683
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 10: It's twenty minutes to get to the, little people, little

684
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 10: morsel all. That WORK but i can't do.

685
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 6: Crab legs if it's not if it's in, THE shell

686
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 6: i can't. DO it i just can't.

687
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: Do crab legs are a little.

688
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Bit unsatisfying SOMETIMES lobster i can get on board, with

689
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: Them and i'm like.

690
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: A professional if given sound like.

691
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 6: The head the guts out of, The cross.

692
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: I'll totally do the little legs on.

693
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: THE lobster i have a lobster, confession actually and this

694
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: was very NORMAL where i grew Up in connecticut that

695
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: when we would sometimes in the summer you get lobsters

696
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: and you, boil them well you you'd get, them live

697
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: and It sounds i'm going to. Get letters we'd put

698
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: them on the floor and and and kind of raise

699
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: them and. LIKE that i wish who gets to the

700
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: pot first before we well it was on. The floors

701
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: it just kind of got. To whatever.

702
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: The people who did not grow up.

703
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: With that as normal are making all the faces that

704
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: are being.

705
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: LOOKED out, i mean.

706
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 10: Sameers, are delicious and they.

707
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: Are delicious and then they kind of cry in, the

708
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: pot which. IS terrible i can never like. Witness it

709
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: YEAH that i never, heard it BUT no. I, can't.

710
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not for. Me either that is not for.

711
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Me either let's go to another.

712
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 3: Talk back, all right we have a fall up From

713
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: a jess here who left the.

714
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 9: Last, who, okay oh thirty seconds is just not. Long

715
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 9: enough but if you need Just from pennsylvania back again

716
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 9: to finish. MY thought I Love Body's crime lab the.

717
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 9: Other night the way that you explained all the different

718
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 9: kinds of evidence made it so easy to understand and easy,

719
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 9: to REMEMBER and i feel smarter for having listened. To

720
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 9: it what can body?

721
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 7: Not do?

722
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 9: Absolutely nothing oh.

723
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: My god so, Much oh, Jess, bless. Yes accurate you are.

724
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 6: Wicked smarts and, you know that was the night That

725
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 6: unfortunately joseph had the. Technical PROBLEMS so i had, to,

726
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: like well let's just figure something out. Real QUICK and

727
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 6: i had written this thing when because this forensics document

728
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: had come out FOR that i DON'T and i was

729
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 6: on TikTok and i, was scrolling, you know looking, for like,

730
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 6: you know silly cat videos, or whatever and there are

731
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 6: a lot. Of people there were a lot of people

732
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 6: that were talking about the trace evidence that was left

733
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: on the, knife sheath but they were misinterpreting what. That

734
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 6: meant AND so i, Was like i'm going to, show

735
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: them you KNOW what, i mean like one of those type.

736
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: Of THINGS so I was.

737
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 6: I remembered i, was, LIKE oh i wrote this, EVIDENCE

738
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 6: document i can just.

739
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: Do that so it was.

740
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 6: Last MINUTE and i appreciate the COMPLIMENT because i really

741
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 6: kind of threw it together.

742
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: Last minute well.

743
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: It was because it's, so simplified and these are like

744
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: big words that get used so and you have such

745
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: a great way of boiling. It down there's no way

746
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: that we can all Understand.

747
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 10: Good, and also like a little bit of a school

748
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 10: teacher energy when you TALK and i, Feel, like okay

749
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 10: she's doing it in a, good way like a good.

750
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: LIKE that.

751
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 6: I was, shocked BECAUSE like i have such an admiration

752
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 6: for teachers like My. Friend michelle she's just like this.

753
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 6: Wonderful teacher SO anytime i get cam, you know compared to,

754
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 6: A teacher i get like happy.

755
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: ABOUT that.

756
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: I was i wasn't insulted.

757
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: At all that was.

758
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 10: Very, good yeah.

759
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: Teachers are to really like, Work, right.

760
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 10: Yeah under underrated and they don't get the attention and

761
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 10: acclimates that. They deserve.

762
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 6: No pay my my poor friend she like buys markers

763
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 6: and like she does a LOT of stem like the

764
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 6: science and technology and all that for for. These kids

765
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: and she pays for, all this a lot of this

766
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: stuff on her.

767
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: Own pocket. That's crazy hand sanitizer.

768
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: They, pay yeah support your, supporters absolutely these absolutely let's

769
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: go to another.

770
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 10: TALK back i, love it.

771
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 12: My lady This is Lea from australia Actually In south

772
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 12: korea at the moment sitting listening. To, this oh you

773
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 12: guys have thoroughly freaked me Out about. IT'S that i

774
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 12: mean everything on, the, floor sure the towel and everything

775
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 12: and pretty much she's just not going to touch anything

776
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 12: the next.

777
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: Few days enjoy, your vacation ensure.

778
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Your vacation glad we could help in your play the

779
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: way that happened to me. Last WEEKEND so i was

780
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: road tripping and stayed at two different hotels that shall,

781
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: remain NAMELESS but i had the. SAME experience i walked

782
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: IN and i was like AS if i was walking

783
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: into a. Crime SCENE like i heard all of the

784
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: details in my head and all the THINGS that i

785
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: should be. Aware OF then i was aware HOW psychotic

786
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 2: i AM that i have this checklist in. My head

787
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: but then, you know we had all the great listeners

788
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: call in with even.

789
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: More pylons you had. THE remote i was like using

790
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: the remote like, you know wrapped in. Tissue paper, you.

791
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: Know silliness it kind of does take the fun out

792
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: of a, NIGHT away i tell.

793
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 4: You them but don't you guys remember from way back

794
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: in the day having when they would do like expose,

795
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: and YEAH and.

796
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: I lack the.

797
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 10: Hard toppy and it was always like it was the

798
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 10: remote that was. Always filthy another, trick though that someone.

799
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 10: Taught me they bring the zip block bags and then

800
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 10: they put the remote. In that so. You're smart so

801
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 10: it's another that wasn't like one.

802
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 6: Of those gallons ziploc bags or something you just that

803
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 6: is actually. Really smart THAT'S what i, really did because

804
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 6: then because they can just.

805
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 10: Thrown away you're doing exactly.

806
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 6: You can you can store stuff in the ziplock when

807
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 6: you're traveling and then unpack it then use that.

808
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: Same ziplock there, you go.

809
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: So smart my makeup and necessories in. Plastic bags fanciest

810
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: carry bags with like, you know for, your cosmetics and

811
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: they never quite fit correctly or they're too heavy for

812
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: your stuff gets all broken. In them plastic bags are.

813
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: The answer so you think it seems, zip.

814
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 10: BLOCKS right.

815
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: A little bit of all those you could lay down in.

816
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 6: Your bed fun that She's In, SOUTH korea i would

817
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 6: be like seven hundred pounds coming BACK because I love

818
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 6: korean food so much, delicious that oh, MY god i

819
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: would be having the kimchi radishes every, single day Every single.

820
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: That's what you would have every single day. Every day they're.

821
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: So good they are. So good they're. So good i'm

822
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: a good for, You too are they very for?

823
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 7: Your?

824
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: Guttritionists yeah embarrassed, TO say i Don't think i've ever.

825
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 10: Eaten one they're.

826
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: So good, anything kimchi, anything fermented is excellent for.

827
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: YOUR gut i did not. Know, THAT yeah i.

828
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 6: LOVE kimchi i.

829
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 3: Love it and luck having another. TALK back i can't

830
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: wait to hear the next one.

831
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 13: Or, tips, hi guys it's Cricket in CONNECTICUT and i

832
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 13: am calling about the. CHEESE conversations i don't think it's

833
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 13: possible to choose a favorite cheese because it's truly defends

834
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 13: on what you're doing. With it BUT if i had to,

835
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 13: pick one There's a brazilian cheese called. Katu pity it's

836
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 13: SPELLED c a t U p i r.

837
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 7: Y amazing oh WHAT do i.

838
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Get like a special cheese? Like THAT do i just

839
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store and ask?

840
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 7: For?

841
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 10: It yeah, that one that's a new one. To me

842
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 10: i'm gonna have to look that.

843
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 3: One, Up okay i'm looking it. Up now and thank

844
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: you for.

845
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: That TIP and I honestly i was nodding with empathy

846
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: when you said it's too hard to choose.

847
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: One cheese it's like picking your. Favorite child.

848
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: But the one that was just mentioned is sort of

849
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: a creamy. Dairy spread it looks like it looks you

850
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: can do it on toast or crackers all to.

851
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: Try it that. Sounds wonderful thanks.

852
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 10: Frick, IT okay i. Love that HOW about i think.

853
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: We have have. Another talk it's.

854
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 14: So.

855
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: Fun hi There a Zamber From.

856
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 14: NORTH dakota i was listening to your episode about the,

857
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 14: vacuum bags the compression bags for storing clothes, and traveling

858
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 14: and they do make some that have basically a double

859
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 14: valve system on the, bag itself so you seal the

860
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 14: bag and roll it up in a certain direction and

861
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 14: then it.

862
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: Takes all the air out and you have a perfectly.

863
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: Compressed bag works like.

864
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: A charm, she's right it's a very. Good tip it's a.

865
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Little bit doesn't it involve a vacuum.

866
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: Or something it's the double valves she was.

867
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: Talking about you don't, need it so when you, push

868
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 4: it air only goes one way in a, double valve

869
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: so you can push, it out.

870
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: But then the air doesn't get stuck. Back, in ah

871
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 3: so you don't leave.

872
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: The hole you don't need or like if you're, LIKE

873
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: tah i know YOU and i do the. Same thing

874
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: like you're leaning on it and rolling it and pushing

875
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: it out exactly Like, never, yeah yeah just bring.

876
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 10: That thing you're fascinating some of. The people what people

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00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 10: respond to that we, Talk, about like we've got more

878
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 10: talkbacks about cheeses and compression love eggs and yeah.

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00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: About probably six to eight. Compression, bags wow three. Mental

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: cheese so that's just hitting.

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00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Unknown nerves we're all just hungry and want to, travel,

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00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: safely right can we?

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00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: All agree crazier hand.

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Speaker 2: If you're just looking for a delicious meal, someplace fabulous maybe.

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Speaker 10: YOUR away i love that.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

887
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: Well listen coming up at the top of, the Hour

888
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: Producer tyler stone is opening up about murders and scandals

889
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: that left him and his.

890
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: Hometown shaken also true Crime.

891
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: And chill we Are Unpacking Netflix's The perfect neighbor, and

892
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: boy buckle up for. That one we'd love to hear.

893
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 4: From you eight at eight Three, One Crime True. Crime tonight.

894
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Welcome Back To True crime Tonight. On iHeartRadio we're talking

895
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: true crime all. The Time I'm stephanie leidecker here With

896
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: My true Crime Mates Body move in and Of.

897
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: Course courtney armstrong.

898
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: And listen, we're very very excited because we finally Have

899
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: Producer tyler stone on. The show just for a, Little,

900
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: Context yeah tyler is a producer and, a composer but

901
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 2: he also composed all of.

902
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 6: The music on, your show, and we oh, my god

903
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 6: when we got all, the tunes we, Were PICKET oh

904
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: I liked i like ten, Seconds, IN oh i like

905
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 6: oh forty five seconds in it's the.

906
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: Beat drops are you just?

907
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 2: Going crazy it was so also kind of last, Minute

908
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: Too so tyler enters our orbit and you were such a.

909
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: Great sport what was the theme that we were trying.

910
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 3: To emulate we were.

911
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Going for Something The billie Eilish wasn't.

912
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: It, was, Yeah.

913
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 6: Yes i'm the bad guy exactly Exactly to tyler hasn't

914
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 6: been on the.

915
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: Show yet he turned around such.

916
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Great music and then we all jam during the commercial

917
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: breaks just to either just spill off some nervous energy

918
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: or because we like. To dance so all of your

919
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: tunes have really done, The, trick tyler and we always

920
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: change your mind on which one is, our.

921
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 3: Favorite but all of them make. Us book so it's,

922
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: really awesome and we're so glad that. You're, here yes we're.

923
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 7: So lud oh, my gosh thank you.

924
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: So MUCH and i love to.

925
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 7: Hear it and you know when you guys played, IT

926
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 7: earlier i, was like that's. SO funny i, love it,

927
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 7: you know to hear it come to life with. The

928
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 7: show it's just. Really cool that's.

929
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 6: So, Cool, SO tyler i understand that there's some things

930
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 6: that you've experienced that are, pretty, Wild Right so i'm

931
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 6: going to give a quick overview of like these these

932
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 6: cases that you you kind, of had have some knowledge

933
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 6: of that happened in your hometown that have kind of.

934
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 3: Affected you is, that, okay, yeah, sure okay here.

935
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 6: We go so in two thousand, And Two hayward bissele

936
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: he pled guilty but mentally ill to the two thousand

937
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 6: murder of, His girlfriend Patricia and Boer, In, tryon georgia

938
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 6: and he was sentenced to life. In prison After, Killing

939
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 6: patricia Hayward, fled alabama where he attempted to murder two

940
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 6: men before being Apprehended with patricia's mutilated body in. His

941
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 6: car Police said patricia had been stabbed, numerous times her eyes,

942
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 6: were gouged and some of her organs were. Partly removed

943
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 6: what A hand? A, hand yeah one of her hands

944
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 6: had been cut off and also her leg and she

945
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: was sitting in the front seat of. HIS car i

946
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 6: mean THIS is i DIDN'T even i didn't even know

947
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 6: about this until tell, This. STORY tyler i understand he

948
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 6: was captured in. Your hometown how old were you when

949
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 6: this happened and what do you remember about?

950
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 7: It ALL so i was about fourteen years old when.

951
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 7: This happened and, mind you let's just start off the

952
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 7: top of This, was alabama so you can just use

953
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 7: your imagination as to like as the how it was

954
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 7: handled and just the. Story itself but, YOU know i

955
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 7: was fourteen years old and like just starting. HIGH school

956
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 7: i was like a freshman. Or SOPHOMORE and, i Mean

957
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 7: Like britney spears was on the, radio right like pop

958
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 7: music was very like the. Moment, there yeah it was

959
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 7: like it was the movies were. Really good they were

960
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 7: they were really popping off into a Girl interrupted like

961
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 7: THAT'S what, i, remember yes and so like that's like

962
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 7: the era of, my life like starting high school when.

963
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 7: This happened, BUT yeah i mean one of my high

964
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 7: school history teachers was also, a coach and he kicked

965
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 7: in the door of the high school, was, like, there

966
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 7: well we got a bulls we called. This girl and

967
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 7: so he burst in to say that that they caught

968
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 7: vigilante style stopped this man who had cut a few

969
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 7: people up in, the, town like and this is JUST

970
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 7: how i found out, about it And then i'll break

971
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 7: it down to like what, really happened. You know so

972
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 7: if we fast forward to the future a, little Bit

973
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 7: where bissell cut this man and and killed his dogs

974
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 7: was on the same ROAD that i was about to

975
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 7: move into with. My grandparents we were going to be his.

976
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 7: Future neighbors so this is how close, it Was So, Heyward,

977
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 7: bissil yes as you, had said he had killed, His,

978
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 7: girlfriend patricia and she, was pregnant and they had Left

979
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 7: from ohio and she was five it was either five

980
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 7: weeks or five. Months pregnant but they had stopped In,

981
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 7: some georgia and which is very very close to my

982
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 7: Hometown in ALABAMA where i lived Is The tri, state

983
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 7: Area And tri state is mentioned in a future thing

984
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 7: that we. Talk about so It, Was, alabama Georgia. And

985
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 7: tennessee so he passed through all of them to Get

986
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: to georgia where he did subsequently. Kill her and then

987
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 7: after he, killed her he drove her over the state

988
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 7: lineing in my hometown and had her propped up in

989
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 7: the passenger seat like she. Was alive oh, my god

990
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 7: and he had in, a panic like his car. BROKE

991
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 7: down i believe he had possibly been involved with a

992
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 7: hit and run. As well he pulled off to a

993
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 7: house to ask, for help but they immediately were like

994
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 7: alarmed by, his presence and they told him he needed,

995
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 7: to leave so he pulled out A straight he pulls

996
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 7: out a straight razor and cuts the man across the

997
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 7: stomach completely. And runs he runs into the house and

998
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 7: his two rottweiler's go after, the man and he kills the,

999
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 7: two rottweilers cut.

1000
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: Their throats he cut the.

1001
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 6: Rottweiler's throats he's.

1002
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 7: His bath this was pre. Bath salts this might have

1003
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 7: been just. PURE met i, don't know, right right but,

1004
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 7: you know at this point he had he, had left

1005
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 7: and this man's wife had come out with a shotgun

1006
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 7: and fired a shot, at him and like nicked m

1007
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 7: shot Him and thistle ran off into. The darkness the,

1008
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 7: next DAY while i was, in school they. Caught him

1009
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 7: they formed like a roadblock on the highway and they

1010
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 7: found his car and a bunch of, you know one

1011
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 7: of them was a high school teacher and, football coach and,

1012
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 7: you know and, you know Just several townsolk.

1013
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: And the police.

1014
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 7: Stopped him finally and they were able to get him

1015
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 7: out of, the car and that's when they discovered that

1016
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 7: his his then girlfriends. Was dead and, even further they

1017
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 7: found like bits of her body like on, his person

1018
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 7: like in, his pockets and then he was chewing on

1019
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 7: something the, whole time and when they finally took, it

1020
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 7: out they discovered it was Her, Esophagee.

1021
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: Tyler what is wrong with? This person?

1022
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 6: Okay wa so when he when he went off into

1023
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 6: the woods after he slashed the, dog's throats they didn't

1024
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 6: even know that this poor woman was in. The car

1025
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: they didn't find that. Until after so they were looking

1026
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 6: for him, because he, you know slashed this guy in

1027
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: the stomach and then killed. His dogs so that's why

1028
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 6: they were cost and the possible hit. Run run oh,

1029
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 6: my god this must have been a grizzly and he

1030
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: was he had bits of her in his pockets and

1031
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 6: chewing On.

1032
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 7: His, god, yeah yeah there were a little more grass things.

1033
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 11: Of.

1034
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: HER then i didn't barely, contain myself but that ching

1035
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 4: on The, Esophagus, tyler, Yeah yeah.

1036
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: I'm more graphical.

1037
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 13: Than.

1038
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 7: That wow to add the scariness, to this this man

1039
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 7: is like six five and he's like five. Hundred pounds he's.

1040
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 7: A gooliath.

1041
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: Where does this end with him being put away forever

1042
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: and ever.

1043
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 7: And ever so they got him and then they took

1044
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 7: Him To Fort payne Jail, in alabama which Is In,

1045
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 7: decab county and they took him there and they held

1046
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 7: him for a while because he was guilty of crimes in,

1047
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 7: that county which were attempted murder and murder of these

1048
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 7: dogs and transporting a. Dead body right so he was

1049
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 7: also charged with kidnapping for every state line. He crossed

1050
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 7: so there was a lots of litigation and lots. Of

1051
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 7: things and, you know he did. Plead guilty he tried

1052
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 7: to get away with it by. Pleading guilty and, you

1053
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 7: know that's that's about as FAR as i know, so

1054
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 7: far was that that he had plagued guilty and then

1055
00:54:59,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 7: and they.

1056
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: For, Life, OKAY tyler i need to reset myself and.

1057
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: COKE immediately i need, a diet coke. And more this

1058
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 3: is true.

1059
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: Crime Tonight I'm courtney armstrong here as always a body

1060
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: move In And stephanie leidecker and right now we're talking

1061
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: about the criminal Escapades.

1062
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 3: Of howard, Excuse Me hayward Bissle.

1063
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: In georgia and we are Joined By, tyler stone producer

1064
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 4: and music expert and, genius extraordinaire who is giving us

1065
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 4: the kind of in depth account of. THIS guy i

1066
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 4: had never Heard Of. Hayward, bistle yeah me neither, OR

1067
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 4: no i had never heard of the story. IT'S been,

1068
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: i mean this is something you would THINK that i would.

1069
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 4: KNOW about i never even heard of. This before so did?

1070
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: Was there do we know if there was any explanation

1071
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: for the.

1072
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 2: Cannibalism for this this person was experiencing.

1073
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: Very rare It is, god Yeah? Thank?

1074
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 6: God right but did he do, You, know tyler did

1075
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 6: you ever? Follow up do you know if why you?

1076
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 15: Did this according to the, you know my own, Following

1077
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 15: UP like i really just came to the determination he

1078
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 15: was just, Mentally UNWELL like i can't put a proper

1079
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 15: diagnosis on something, like THAT but.

1080
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 7: I do believe that IT was i do believe he.

1081
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 7: Was schizophrenic they they found that, he was, you know,

1082
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: severely schizophrenic. Likely Untreated and I'm not this isn't an

1083
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 7: attempt to demonize any group, of people.

1084
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: You KNOW what?

1085
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 7: I mean this is just based off OF what i had,

1086
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 7: you know come to. Find out and his behavior in

1087
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 7: the uh in the jail was even, more alarming like

1088
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 7: he was tearing the. Place apart he was very hard.

1089
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 7: To subdue they had to tranquilize him several times and hog.

1090
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 7: Tie him, he was, you know doing bad things to

1091
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 7: himself with the shower rod, catch minded like he was,

1092
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 7: throwing seefy throwing hankies all over.

1093
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 3: The.

1094
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 7: Prison yeah so he and to top, it off he.

1095
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 7: Was huge he. Was uncontrollable he was like, a giant

1096
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 7: giant Man.

1097
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: Monster tyler what was WHAT was i guess the vibe

1098
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 4: is not the, right word but the atmosphere in, the

1099
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: town if there was was sort of a vigilante in the,

1100
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: air monster if.

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00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 7: You know for for the, most part like me and,

1102
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 7: my group we didn't hear about what. Had HAPPENED so

1103
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 7: i guess they kept it quieted to not, create PANIC

1104
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 7: because i, YOU know i JUST think i would have

1105
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 7: heard at some point in the middle of, the night,

1106
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 7: you know before getting into school that one of my

1107
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 7: neighbors got. Cut up, maybe not but it was in

1108
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 7: it was during school the next day when my, you

1109
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 7: know one of my teachers just he was opening the

1110
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: door telling, everyone like we, got him we, got him we. Got,

1111
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 7: him wow this, big burly red headed red MAN about

1112
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 7: i just looked.

1113
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Him up.

1114
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 6: He's, huge yeah, you're right. He's huge he's a.

1115
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 10: Big dude AND also i did try to check to

1116
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 10: see what the status is, right now and there's not

1117
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 10: a Lot other everything just says he was sentenced to life.

1118
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 10: In prison but there's no.

1119
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 6: Real right so they didn't give like a motive or

1120
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 6: like the drugs or anything.

1121
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: Like, that yeah THAT'S what i was.

1122
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 6: Just WONDERING but i just read too that her some

1123
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 6: of her organs had, been removed and one of them

1124
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 6: was her heart and her liver and they were found in. The,

1125
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 6: car yeah so he was driving around With this he

1126
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 6: was driving around with, this woman this, poor woman she,

1127
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 6: was pregnant and he, killed, her obviously and she had her,

1128
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 6: eyes removed her heart and, liver removed hand and a leg,

1129
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: cut off and he had her propped up like a

1130
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 6: mannequin in her car or in, the car and he

1131
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 6: was just. DRIVING around, i mean clearly there's. Something, wrong

1132
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 6: yeah you're this guy's off his rocker one. Hundred percent

1133
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 6: and then he hits somebody hit and run and he goes,

1134
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: for help like he's, got this you KNOW what, I

1135
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: mean like.

1136
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: You're obviously not.

1137
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 6: Thinking, properly yeah he goes, for help and the guy

1138
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: answers the door and he, attacks him and then the

1139
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 6: two the two rot rilers.

1140
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: GET involved, i mean this is just like.

1141
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: You know this is you bring up not to do

1142
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: a little slight tangent with curious what, you guys what

1143
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: you guys would do in. This scenario it's two thirty in,

1144
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: the morning someone's banging on. Your door i'm, not answering,

1145
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: help me helpmzing and you look out the window and

1146
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: it's a it's a, young girl, help me. Help me,

1147
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: you know she. ESCAPED somewhere i call. The cops, you

1148
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: know sometimes the cops don't come.

1149
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 10: So quick yeah.

1150
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 6: That's TRUE but i mean there's so many situations nowadays

1151
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 6: where that's. A, ruse.

1152
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah yeah YOU know i Would fall i'm The,

1153
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 10: good samaritan and he would, say.

1154
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 3: That Of course i'd want to help. This WOMAN but,

1155
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: I know i THINK you're i think you're giving the.

1156
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: Right advice i'd be the first to be killed YEAR

1157
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: because i for sure would have opened the door and

1158
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: would open the door because we have heard stories of

1159
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 2: girls that are escaping a domestic situation or abused family

1160
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: situation till they go, to, escape yeah or tossed on

1161
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: the side of the road and thankfully somebody takes. Them

1162
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: in but to, your point that's also a real way

1163
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: to get bait.

1164
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: And switched in the middle of the night and somebody

1165
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: busts into. YOUR house i would.

1166
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 6: Call mine one one right down the street.

1167
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: From, me yeah That's How the stranger. Started exactly not.

1168
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: Everybody else, You Know courtney armstrong beat up. ANY intruder i.

1169
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: Don't Know the.

1170
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: Stranger, scarious yes it's like the scariest.

1171
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: Movie, ever yeah it's really scary because. It's real it's

1172
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: a home invasion kind.

1173
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 3: Of movie. It's awful.

1174
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 10: Take.

1175
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: That, off yeah don't put that on your cabin hill.

1176
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 3: THERE scary I, got yeah you're the one that told us.

1177
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: ABOUT it.

1178
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 10: I did. I forgot i Forgot. The stranger it's the, cabin,

1179
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 10: yah yeah, RIGHT right i blocked out all the.

1180
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 3: Scary things, wait Quick ta Ania.

1181
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 6: Live, TYLER yes i Love.

1182
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 3: Love tyler she's in. That movie it's. Really good That's. Very,

1183
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 3: strangers yeah. THAT'S great i talked about it Like on.

1184
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 10: Halloween, yeah yeah it Was our. HALLOWEEN topic i am

1185
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 10: still still recovering from.

1186
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: That because it was a.

1187
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: Candy comba, well listen stick, around Everybody because tyler will

1188
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: be sticking around, with us which.

1189
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 6: Is.

1190
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: THRILLING scared, I, know tyler what else did you possibly have?

1191
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: For us? My goodness and, you know let's talk about.

1192
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 4: Some cremations so we're going to hear all about the

1193
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 4: tri state crematory scandal that haunted. HIS hometown i.

1194
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: Don't, know tyler we want to hear.

1195
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 4: From you eight to day Three, On Crime True. Crime

1196
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: tonight welcome Back To True crime Tonight.

1197
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: On iHeartRadio we're talking true crime all. The time so

1198
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: if you like, that Song It's tyler stone who's with

1199
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: us right now who composed it and is also. A

1200
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: producer by, The Way I'm stephanie leidecker Here With courtney

1201
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: armstrong body move in and Of, Course taha Sam and

1202
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: adam holding down the fort in the. Control, Room, so

1203
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: tyler you've already Scared the jesus out of. Us already

1204
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: so what else do you have from this hometown. OF

1205
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: yours i saw the word crematorium and YOU.

1206
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: Already i, was like, Oh, Boy okay.

1207
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm, SO yeah i am so scared of your. Town

1208
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: already but if you, Don't, Mind tyler i'll give just A.

1209
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 3: LITTLE si i wonder you got the heck out of there.

1210
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: Your, art, Yeah okay so here's.

1211
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: What's up back in two thousand, and Two The Tri.

1212
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 4: State crematory this was In. Northwest georgia it was the

1213
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 4: center of a nationwide. Filthy scandal it was discovered that

1214
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: at this crematory only three hundred and forty bodies that

1215
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 4: were supposed to be consigned to this prematory for, you

1216
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: know the proper, proper disposal but, guess what they. Weren't

1217
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 4: cremated they were dumped at multiple locations.

1218
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: In and around the.

1219
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: Crematorium site and a Guy Named Ray brent marsh, was

1220
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: arrested which, sounds correct on over three hundred criminal violations,

1221
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: AND ultimately i don't Know that i've actually can remember

1222
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: hearing account. This high he was ultimately charged By the

1223
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: State of georgia with seven hundred and eighty. Seven counts

1224
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 4: so it was theft, and deception abusing a corpse you

1225
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: know that times three hundred.

1226
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: And forty.

1227
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 4: Also burial service, related frauds giving, false, statements WOW and

1228
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 4: i am shocked. By this but in, twenty sixteen This

1229
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: Guy Ray, brent marsh he was Released From Central, State.

1230
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: Prison georgia he had served his twelve.

1231
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 4: Year sentence, and wow and now he's walking among us

1232
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 4: And doing god, guys.

1233
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 10: Out he's on walking.

1234
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: The streets.

1235
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: He's Out, So, tyler okay so you lived not Far From.

1236
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 3: Tri state so could.

1237
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 4: You actually like place yourself geographically and tell us if

1238
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 4: you remember.

1239
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: This, story, yeah.

1240
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: Sure exactly so as, you said It's The Tri state Crematorium.

1241
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 7: In georgia AND as i said in the, EARLIER segment

1242
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 7: i lived In The tri. STATE area i live in

1243
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 7: a small Town, Called, mintone alabama which is In The.

1244
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 7: Appalachian mountain you could drive five minutes To the. Georgia

1245
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 7: line you drive another twenty minutes To the. Tennessee LINE

1246
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 7: and i lived in a. Dry county so, like people

1247
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 7: if they wanted alcohol or, lottery tickets they. Would go

1248
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 7: they would call, it bootlegging and they would bootleg it

1249
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 7: back into the County. From, georgia okay let's just just set.

1250
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 7: The scene is like the, small town small Town that. I'm,

1251
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,479
Speaker 7: From interesting so that's that's basically THE area i lived

1252
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 7: about probably forty five minutes away from Where This tri state.

1253
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 7: Crematorium was so this particularly didn't happen to my, town

1254
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 7: particularly but it did involve people in my town because

1255
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 7: it was the only crematorium within like a fifty. Mile,

1256
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 7: radio sure no funeral funeral homes from all over the

1257
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 7: area are sending, their moms, their sons, their brothers their

1258
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 7: grandma's your, Neighbor crematorium, your neighbors all of, Our, neighbors

1259
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 7: yeah are sending them to this place and they are

1260
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 7: being sent back concrete dust. As remain no so and

1261
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 7: no one just no one. Questioned it like who's going.

1262
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: To say how do you? Question it no one's, going.

1263
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 7: Right yeah so you're not going to. Contest that oh

1264
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 7: that was like ashes, to. Me right so that they

1265
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 7: were doing this a, very long, very long very, long

1266
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 7: time as, you said like three hundred and, sixty bodies and,

1267
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 7: you know he didn't start running his funeral home until like.

1268
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 7: The nineties his father was doing it since, the seventies

1269
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 7: and his father was also poarding. The body it's a,

1270
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 7: family thing so.

1271
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: That's where he.

1272
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 6: Learned it like so that he's learning. The scam it's a. Family,

1273
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 6: scam right. It's generational, You know dad got away with

1274
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 6: it for thirty years and he, got money he got paid.

1275
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: For this i'm going to do the. Same thing how

1276
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: do you? LEAP it.

1277
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 4: I don't i was just thinking if someone, GAVE me i,

1278
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 4: don't know a very very very important piece of paper

1279
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: and said you need to sort of. HIDE this i also.

1280
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: Couldn't sleep but hundreds of bodies and you're putting it, in

1281
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 4: here and you're putting. Them there how how do you're?

1282
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: There everywhere and we were just doing this Story With

1283
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: Joseph scott morgan, as WELL and i in, My head

1284
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: i'm kind of sickened about it ABOUT do i want

1285
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: to get.

1286
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 3: Cremated one day? God forbid or do you want to?

1287
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: Be buried we came to a, NATURAL burial i think

1288
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: IS where, i landed only after there's been a, proper

1289
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: investigation so my body would have to be held until

1290
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: all autopsies. Were complete that could take. A minute so

1291
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: we don't want to rush. To uh we don't want

1292
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: to rush to cremate BECAUSE sometimes i can backfire too in.

1293
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: AN investigation i don't know why there's an investigation around.

1294
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 3: MY death i why already. SEEMS, suspicious fyi.

1295
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: But you know so, again, like yeah you you send

1296
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: your loved one under the best of, sacred conditions one,

1297
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 2: would assume.

1298
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: How do you fact check if the ashes?

1299
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 6: ARE accurate i wonder if YOU can dna, test ashes.

1300
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 7: But who wants to.

1301
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: DO that i listen that.

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 6: The way things are going in the news that we've been,

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 6: covering lately with like this stuff Out of, colorado too

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01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 6: and then this thing that we learned About, In MEXICO

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01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: like i Am like orleans where.

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: There's, cemetery Oh The new orleans.

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 6: Went too i'm going to use part of the MONEY

1308
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 6: that i HAVE that i give to my surviving kin

1309
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 6: to TEST my DNA because i want to make sure

1310
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 6: that they'd get my ashes back and not.

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: Concrete dust i'll check out. For you i'll.

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 7: BE sure i want to hear something that will really

1313
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 7: push the whole conversation into a completely, different direction and

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 7: this is directly related to.

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: This.

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01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 7: Case absolutely how would you feel if you were told

1317
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 7: that him and his father were actually victims of mergury

1318
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 7: poisoning because all of the corpses silver teeth poisoned them

1319
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 7: and made. Them psychotic because that's what it eventually came

1320
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 7: to determination he had extreme Mercury poison it was tested in.

1321
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,919
Speaker 7: His blood wait, a minute he was breathing in mercury

1322
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 7: for years with his father because at the time they weren't.

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01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 7: Regulating it and also that particular Crematorium in georgia fell

1324
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 7: under a certain loophole that didn't make it, state sanctioned

1325
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 7: so they were not they were not subject or held

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 7: accountable to state audits or state investigations or state, you

1327
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 7: know will you come in and check? On something you

1328
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 7: know that any of those type of drop in. Didn't

1329
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 7: happen and so basically you have years of mercury inhalation

1330
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 7: poisoning kind of driving the other driving the car while also.

1331
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 7: Doing this so baffled me about the whole situation is

1332
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 7: he's sane enough to take the money and cash. The

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01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 7: check he's not sane enough to put the bodies away

1334
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 7: or to do what's right with. The bodies but he

1335
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 7: did plead like criminal insanity by way of. Mercury poisoning

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 7: well did?

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 11: That?

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 4: Work okay first, Of, all tyler. That's, insane however the

1339
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: poisoning that he got from the bodies were. From bodies

1340
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: when this whole thing started and there were, no bodies

1341
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 4: there was, no mercury so they created their. Own psychosis

1342
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 4: i'm not dismissing that they had merc cury poisoning at

1343
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 4: the end.

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 7: Of the fumes of the it's the fumes that the

1345
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 7: mercury create when they when they, were cremating when they

1346
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 7: were doing.

1347
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 10: Their jobs when they were doing it the, proper way early.

1348
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 7: On, proper way it created a toxic gas that he

1349
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 7: was breathing in and and. Created. PSYCHOSIS yeah.

1350
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 6: I just looked it up and It Says, attorney poston Who,

1351
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 6: represented marsh said he believes that unhealthy conditions at the

1352
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 6: crematory led to the death of his father and turned

1353
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 6: The younger marsh into the modern Day. Mad hatter they

1354
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 6: said that they had ruled out all the, other theories

1355
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 6: Including that marsh was lazy or that not create premating

1356
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 6: the bodies was financially benefiting, to him but it was.

1357
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 6: This mercury this is true Stor My. Heart radio we're

1358
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 6: talking true crime all, the time and we're here with

1359
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 6: the producer And Composer, tyler stone who's just telling this

1360
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 6: the most insane Story of georgia in this crematorium that

1361
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 6: wasn't doing its job and was hiding the bodies and.

1362
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 6: MERCURY pose i never would have thought this when you

1363
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 6: first said In, The teeth, i'm, like well HOW do

1364
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 6: i because, YOU know i have some some feelings from

1365
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 6: back in. The, Day come i'm not dying. Of mercury,

1366
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 6: But duh i'm not, being, cremated right it's the.

1367
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: Number one you're not, Being CREMATED and i think the

1368
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: mercury has since changed in more, recent, Times right so

1369
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: that's probably not even an option in your mouth.

1370
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 3: RIGHT now I would i.

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01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: WOULD assume i just say the word crematorium is also

1372
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: so scary, to me is?

1373
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 3: IT really i. DON'T know i don't every time any

1374
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: one of you, SAYS it i don't, Like, IT.

1375
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: Stephanie i don't like storage, unit's either, but yeah they both.

1376
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: Sort of that's A scary i, don't know it's a

1377
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: scary thought horror.

1378
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 10: Movie title going back To something tyler, you, said though

1379
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 10: that's a, good point like he was still, sane enough if,

1380
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 10: you will to take the checks and do, the money

1381
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 10: and like there's a side that feels like he's thinking

1382
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 10: logically with part, of it but not logically with the.

1383
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 10: Other Half so i'm. NOT sure i. DON'T know, i

1384
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 10: wondered was the insanity plea a way that helped you

1385
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 10: get a shorter sentence because he's out now twelve years.

1386
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 3: Later or twelve years.

1387
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: IS astounding, I know i keep jumping on, this bandwagon but,

1388
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: you know something we do talk about pretty much, every day,

1389
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 2: including today is just the level of sentencing. Her, crimes

1390
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: right this seems like this guy did not do enough

1391
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: time for the. CRIMES committed, i mean that's why a those,

1392
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: loved ones it's.

1393
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 6: Also sacred, this attorney they did this investigation on why

1394
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 6: because he took in like around a thousand bodies but

1395
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 6: just didn't cremate this three hundred and john one hundred

1396
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: and forty, What so but he was doing some, of

1397
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: them so they were trying to figure out why his

1398
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 6: behavior was, so erratic, like why so they. Investigated, necrophilia wow,

1399
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 6: you know those all these different theories of why he was,

1400
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 6: doing this and they came up with this mercury thing

1401
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 6: because there was evidence that his father died from this

1402
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 6: and that he was suffering from some kind of, mental

1403
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,959
Speaker 6: issues so that might have been taken into. Accountant. Sentencing,

1404
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 6: yeah wow that's that is a.

1405
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: Real thing did any of you listen to the podcast?

1406
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 4: S town. I, Didn't okay.

1407
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 3: Adam is not his head.

1408
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: Like podcasts i'd never listened. To THEM IT'S i i.

1409
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 3: This is an.

1410
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,759
Speaker 4: Unbelievable party everybody does say it's, the Best and mercury

1411
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: won't say much more about mercury poisoning plays into it in. A,

1412
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: way tyler not to, be gruesome but you know you

1413
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: did open the door and MAN to.

1414
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 3: I mean TALK about i think, You're, Safe courtney you're.

1415
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: Safe company tyler is going to? Be fine, Was? There

1416
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 3: tyler was there a smell with all of? These, bodies

1417
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: okay so not.

1418
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 7: Like directly, near me but that is what like when

1419
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 7: the when the word hit and like, you know Small

1420
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 7: town alabama folk got to talking. About. It uh it

1421
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 7: was that WAS what i believe led people to the

1422
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 7: discovery was. The stinch FROM what i was told AND

1423
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 7: what i heard from, the grapevine was that they found

1424
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 7: bodies stacked in greenhouses and there were just several greenhouses on,

1425
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 7: the land and there were freezers and they were like

1426
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 7: refrigerators and they were just kind of compiled and stuffed

1427
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 7: and then over time as, they decomposed stuff even, further

1428
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 7: down you KNOW what. I mean and so it created

1429
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 7: a smell, that yes the neighbors and like like local

1430
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 7: officials noticed and so they went out there to investigate

1431
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 7: based on. The smell. Wow plants.

1432
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 10: Wow, wow yeah. That's crazy that haught me for the

1433
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 10: rest of. My, life yeah That is.

1434
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: By, The way alabama's a a.

1435
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: Wonderful place so let this not be a stain on

1436
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: this beautiful place that you.

1437
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,919
Speaker 3: Come from, but boy it is. So beautiful so minus

1438
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: all the body, pile up but that is pretty.

1439
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: Intense body parts in pockets and back seats.

1440
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 6: AND goodness i guess this is kind of common for

1441
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 6: crematoriums to have this. Mercury problem, I'm listen i'm kind

1442
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: of obsessed now with this mercury because there were other

1443
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 6: INSTANCES where i guess, CREMATORIUM managers i, don't know we're having.

1444
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 6: Mercury issues it was like a.

1445
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: REAL issue, I mean i'm spacing on what it is

1446
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: too funny that you bring.

1447
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: THAT up i did an, interview Recently and i'm spacing

1448
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 2: on The actual it wasn't iron but there's there is

1449
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 2: some mapping to suggest that where serial killers are, most

1450
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: dominant there's a certain level.

1451
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 3: Of toxicity it's. Not, iron oh. It's lead. IT'S lead

1452
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: I have i reads very recent.

1453
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 10: That's.

1454
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: Right yeah and Then the pacific northwest specific northwest. Right,

1455
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: On actually, I'll well i'll reach out because she she

1456
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: wrote in an extraordinary book. About it there does seem to be,

1457
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: some real some real tracking that.

1458
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: Would, suggest yeah that that because there were a lot

1459
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 3: of a very specific. Line, too yeah.

1460
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 6: Right in the, seventies eighties. RIGHT correct i think they

1461
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 6: called that Like The golden area of serial killers.

1462
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: Or something.

1463
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 6: That's right that's not, my words by, the way do

1464
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 6: not get mad.

1465
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 4: At, me Yeah The new york Or The New, york

1466
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 4: times like several there have been large.

1467
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: Article has investigations. Into it it's oh.

1468
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 6: My god so people that did you know anybody that

1469
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 6: was affected, by, This tyler i'm sure. You did you

1470
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 6: probably might not even.

1471
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 7: Realize it it's more like, older families like like someone

1472
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 7: who knows one who. Knows someone but it was just

1473
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 7: the fact that it was, So close like it's very

1474
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 7: obvious that it affected so many people in just even my,

1475
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 7: small town just for the base on the soul fact

1476
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:06,959
Speaker 7: that there was not a crematorium any with any close radius,

1477
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 7: of it so they were really left with. No choice it.

1478
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 7: Was monopolized keep.

1479
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 6: It here we're going to do our true crime and.

1480
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 6: Chill next This Is True. Crime tonight Thank you tyler.

1481
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 6: So much we, Love.

1482
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 3: You tyler, Thank. You tyler, Thank.

1483
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 16: You.

1484
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 3: Tyler tyler more to Come. From tyler you'll be. Back

1485
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: soon welcome Back To True crime Tonight.

1486
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: On iHeartRadio we've been talking true crime all, the time,

1487
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 2: and man the night has gone. By Quickly i'm stephanie

1488
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: Here with Body and courtney and big thanks Again To

1489
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: tyler stone who joined us and scared us and shared some.

1490
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: Hometown tales if you, have any please throw them.

1491
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 3: Our way eight eight eight three.

1492
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: One crime, AND yeah I mean i Know, it's wednesday

1493
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 2: so it's true Crime and.

1494
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: Chill night hopefully you guys have All Watched The.

1495
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: Perfect neighbor which is the perfect title for this nightmare

1496
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: neighbor anything. BUT perfect i guess we should Call. It

1497
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: body do you want to fill us in it as? The,

1498
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: setup yeah.

1499
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 3: Let's do the setup so.

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01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 7: Really.

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01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 6: QUICK though i want to give a shout Out to

1502
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 6: TYLER because i kind of. Wanted it he was so

1503
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 6: nice and. So fun please go follow Him. On Instagram

1504
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 6: It's tyler stone did that all one word and, you

1505
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 6: know huge. Shout Out ROLLING stone uk mentioned him and

1506
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 6: put him in an article as an artist, to watch

1507
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 6: so congratulations. For that.

1508
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: He was so.

1509
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 6: Amazing musician he was, so fun he had fun with

1510
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 6: us in the break we were all dancing and just

1511
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 6: a really. NICE guy, I really i really. Enjoyed that

1512
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 6: but let's get back to a. Perfect neighbor so the

1513
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 6: idea behind the. Imperfect neighbor It's a netflix documentary and

1514
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 6: It's About. SUSAN larenz i can't her name is. Just

1515
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 6: horrible she's a white Woman, In, o'calla florida who shot

1516
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 6: and killed, HER NEIGHBOR.

1517
01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 7: A J.

1518
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 6: Chantrell owens she was a black mother of Four on,

1519
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 6: june second twenty. Twenty three and, the film the entire

1520
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 6: documentary is police bodycam footage from start, to end, in

1521
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 6: FACT and i didn't know THAT when i started, watching

1522
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 6: IT so i kept waiting for somebody to come on

1523
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 6: that was sitting in a chair that was like gonna

1524
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 6: tell us what was, going on and it. Never happened,

1525
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 6: it's literally from start, to end it's all bodycam footage

1526
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 6: and it's so well. Put together you don't need, a,

1527
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 6: Narrator right you don't need a narrator to follow what's.

1528
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 6: Going on so this police bodycam footage shows like Interactions

1529
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 6: with Susan and AJ's neighbors and all these kids and

1530
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 6: all the law enforcement in this. Lead, up Okay and

1531
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 6: i'm not gonna stay with the lead up. As yet

1532
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about it together and investigation as well as.

1533
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 6: Questioning afterward so let's go to. A, talkback, Hi ladies Sarah.

1534
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 16: FROM michigan i am ten minutes Away, from finnish the,

1535
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 16: perfect NEIGHBOR and i just had to say that the

1536
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 16: detectives in the little detective room with her when she

1537
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 16: was refusing to go to, the.

1538
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: Jail they are.

1539
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 16: So patient they were, so patient way more PATIENT than

1540
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 16: i would.

1541
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 3: HAVE been i wanted to punch her in. The throat

1542
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 3: as our last talk from the bron From. The, bronx

1543
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah like i've said that in my head like a.

1544
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 6: Hundred times, imagine though for, One moment i'm gonna get

1545
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 6: out of my soapbox a little BIT because i was

1546
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 6: really actually pissed off. About, this, yes, okay yeah it

1547
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 6: was funny but also. Angered me imagine if roles were

1548
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 6: reversed and that was a black woman. Sitting, there yeah

1549
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 6: do you think that those cops would have been as patient?

1550
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: AT all i agree, with YOU although i, will say in,

1551
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 3: my opinion.

1552
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 6: The cops in that were featured in this documentary that

1553
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 6: coming on all these calls were.

1554
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: SO good i thought they were.

1555
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 10: Excellent across, the board, the neighbors.

1556
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 6: To everyone they did a great job of de escalating

1557
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 6: things and playing with the kids, and like, you know.

1558
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 6: MAKING sure i really got the impression that the kids

1559
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 6: were not afraid, of COPS and i think. That's important,

1560
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 6: you know that's an. Important thing so shout out to those.

1561
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 6: PATROL officers, I mean i think they did a. Fabulous

1562
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 6: job if you're just, tuning in we're talking about the.

1563
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 6: Perfect neighbor and in this, you know this this Documentary

1564
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 6: For true Crime And, chill tonight it's all. Bodycam footage

1565
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 6: and what happens is this woman. Is insane she's Like

1566
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 6: a karen, on, Steroids right she's just. The worst she's.

1567
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 6: The pits and these you, know kids the neighborhood kids are.

1568
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 6: Outside playing they're not inside playing. Video games they're outside riding,

1569
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 6: their bikes they're, playing football and there's like this vacant

1570
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 6: lot next to her, her condo and it's not owned.

1571
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 6: By her it's actually owned by the guy that lives

1572
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 6: next to the, vacant lot and he's given the kids

1573
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 6: permission to play in. The, slot well every time the kids,

1574
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 6: are playing she calls the cops because they're harassing her

1575
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 6: or they're being.

1576
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 3: Too loud and she's.

1577
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 6: A racist she's, a racist a one. Hundred percent and

1578
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 6: it ends, up that, you, know uh. The kids at,

1579
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 6: the end the mom goes over because the kids, are

1580
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 6: like she took, my tablet she threw roller skates, at

1581
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 6: us and so one of the moms goes over there to,

1582
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 6: confront her And this karen neighbor shoots.

1583
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 3: Her dead but she.

1584
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 10: Says through, the door like, leave that don't leave that,

1585
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 10: Part out like the, door.

1586
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: Bolted that is.

1587
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 6: So important so she she calls the cops and she

1588
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 6: says they're banging on my door or something to, that

1589
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 6: effect and the cops, are, Like, okay karen.

1590
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 3: We'll be there in.

1591
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,959
Speaker 6: A minute and she ends up shooting through her bolted

1592
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 6: locked door just randomly willy nilly at whoever is standing

1593
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 6: there and hit this mom, who dies and so it

1594
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 6: comes to. Those, injuries yeah leaving these kids without.

1595
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: A mother they, arrest her and it took a while to.

1596
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 10: Arrest, her yeah she's walking.

1597
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 3: The streets she's like walking.

1598
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 7: The streets for a.

1599
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 6: Hot minute they finally arrest her and, they're like do

1600
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 6: you think that you want to write an apology letter to?

1601
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 6: Your victims and she's, like Maybe and i'm. Like what

1602
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 6: then then, they're, like okay go ahead and. Stand up

1603
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 6: we're going to cuff you and take you. To jail and, she's,

1604
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 6: Like no i'm not. Doing that i'm not going for

1605
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 6: how long, you guys like five?

1606
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 10: Ten minutes it felt. Like forever and they were so patient.

1607
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 10: With her every time she's, saying no they.

1608
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: Were very patient. With her, SHE'S like i can't. Do

1609
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 3: it I'M not i.

1610
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 6: CAN'T go i can't go.

1611
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 3: To jail.

1612
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 10: I'm not this is.

1613
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 6: Not option by, the way that would. BE me i would, be,

1614
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 6: Like no i'm. Not going it's.

1615
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 10: Not happening i'm.

1616
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 3: NOT going, i guys. Watch this you all watch THIS before,

1617
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 3: i DID and i should have heeded.

1618
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 4: YOUR warning i don't recall who, said it but it was, SOMETHING,

1619
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 4: like i, you know wanted to THROW my tv out.

1620
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: The, window, hey yeah it's the opposite of true crime,

1621
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 3: and chills.

1622
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 4: True, RAGE yes i was, fists clenched and particularly like You,

1623
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 4: mentioned daha for how long she was walking, and coming,

1624
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 4: you know being escorted back to her home TO get i,

1625
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 4: don't know a pair of shoes or just and and

1626
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: everyone in this neighborhood has to see her being.

1627
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: Informed alive unlike the mother that she shot. And killed

1628
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 3: it was a really. Hard watch it's a really.

1629
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 10: Hard, Watch yeah and the emotions, for me like the

1630
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 10: rage was one, of IT because i was so annoyed

1631
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 10: with the, you know of course, with her but it was.

1632
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 10: So hard that was the ONLY problem. I had it

1633
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 10: was it felt a little invasively watching the, bodycam footage

1634
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 10: like when we saw the little boy find out his

1635
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 10: mother died. ON camera i.

1636
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 3: Hate that that was so hard.

1637
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 10: For me that was the PART where i had. TO

1638
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 10: stop i, was, LIKE yeah i can't watch this part for.

1639
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: A second it was it was actually traumatic to. SEE

1640
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: it i thought. So too, actually YEAH.

1641
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 10: And i haven't shared this, a lot but but, for

1642
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 10: ME because i lost my mom at an, early age

1643
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 10: it was like it was sort. Of Triggering so, i'm,

1644
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 10: like Oh, MY god i cannot watch.

1645
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 3: This PART so i had to stop and pause.

1646
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 10: And Reset but, i'm like this is. Our assignment we

1647
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 10: got to watch. The show SO but i continued through

1648
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 10: and then it turned into, the ANGER so i went

1649
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 10: through the flory of emotions. With it but it was,

1650
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 10: YOU know i, don't know there's a part of me

1651
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 10: that felt it was just a Little too you're seeing

1652
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 10: a little too much of that. Personal SIDE but, i

1653
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 10: Think if i'm, not mistaken the family is someone involved with,

1654
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 10: the documentary so, THAT'S correctly i.

1655
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: Think so, and look you're kind of bumping on the

1656
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: fact that there were, miners too, you know so that

1657
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 2: always feels like we shouldn't be seeing.

1658
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: This first by, the way how proud would your mom be?

1659
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 3: Of you you're just. The best so we were sending

1660
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 3: love to your mom, because yeah like it.

1661
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: Was infuriating, but listen important, standard, ground right this is

1662
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: an important thing to discuss and.

1663
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: Its value and it's, you know lack of value in.

1664
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 6: Other ways maybe we should talk about stand your ground

1665
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 6: just a little Bit. In florida so just a very

1666
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 6: very Quick overview florida standard ground Law in florida allows

1667
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 6: a person to use deadly force if they reasonably believe

1668
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 6: it's necessary to prevent, imminent death great, bodily harm or

1669
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 6: the commission of a forcible felony like a burglary or

1670
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 6: a robbery or. A rape unlike traditional self, defense laws

1671
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 6: there is no legal duty, to retreat even if the

1672
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 6: person could safely. Do so so, This, woman susan the

1673
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 6: murderer in, this case was claiming. Stanyr ground, now again

1674
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 6: it's so important To. Remember taha like, you said she

1675
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 6: was behind a bolted and, locked doors, door closed.

1676
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: None of the windows were broken, in nothing, you know

1677
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 3: like she was trying to bring, it big bang.

1678
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: It DOWN either i was, threatening anybody what you going

1679
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: to shoot anybody that comes to Your stupid it could have.

1680
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 10: Been the children and, the, mailman anybody but.

1681
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 6: Go. Ahead, yeah well and even in the nine one,

1682
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 6: one call when she calls before, she shoots you can't,

1683
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 6: Hear ANYTHING like i went back and listened again to

1684
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 6: see and LIKE maybe i could hear like banging on,

1685
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 6: the DOOR and.

1686
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 10: I didn't you don't. Hear anything and the timeline didn't

1687
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 10: match up, Well too and they started investigating about the

1688
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 10: time frame when she heard the sound to the call

1689
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 10: so across. The board she's was lying, About EVERYTHING but

1690
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 10: i just wanted to say one thing with the standard Ground,

1691
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 10: in florida like one stat that stood out. To me

1692
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 10: we started researching a. Little bit Florida's monthly their monthly

1693
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 10: homicide rate has increased nearly twenty five percent after this

1694
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 10: law has. Taken, effect so, You know i'm not SURE

1695
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 10: how i understand the logic something in some ways about

1696
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 10: the stand, Your ground but when you see statistics, like

1697
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 10: that it's and you see a documentary along, these lines

1698
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 10: it just makes, you think this.

1699
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 3: Is systems not working on. Either side this is.

1700
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 2: Not working and also even just this woman forever calling

1701
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: the police, officers who to, everyone's point were. Very patient

1702
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: all that to, be said what a waste of law.

1703
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: Enforcement's time this annoying neighbor is forever calling the police

1704
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: for absolutely. No reason even that would get old and

1705
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 2: as a, red flag like she should be charged with.

1706
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: That too it just being a nuisance to, law enforcement

1707
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 2: having cops come out every five seconds for a crime that,

1708
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: wasn't committed and then on top, of that letting her.

1709
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: Linger around some of this, was avoidable and it's just

1710
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: devastating for. Those, kids yeah this was true crime.

1711
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 6: And, rage YEAH no onc was in seven this Is.

1712
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 6: In florida in seven out of ten CASES where sandr ground,

1713
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 6: was invoked, were like the person that shot said it

1714
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 6: was standard ground and killed was An armed.

1715
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: So seven ten. On armed.

1716
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: That's CRAZY and i wonder what the stats are in

1717
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: terms of people of color and where.

1718
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,839
Speaker 10: This, IS well i can tell you that in cases

1719
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 10: where the first, of all in cases where a white

1720
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 10: shooter killed a, black victim the homicide was deemed justifiable

1721
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 10: eleven times more than when the roles. Were reversed and

1722
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 10: also one other piece, they said we've looked up that

1723
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 10: they've indicated that the law may have contributed to nearly

1724
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 10: twenty three percent increase in firearm homicides among black Residents.

1725
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 10: Of florida so it's, you, know.

1726
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like it has potential to be shaded slightly in.

1727
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 3: JUSTIFIABLE murder i. DON'T know i don't know enough about.

1728
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 2: STANDARD ground i see, the POINT but i, also this

1729
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: this documentary made me question a lot.

1730
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 10: Of, things well it definitely resonated with a lot. Of

1731
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 10: people we got a lot of responses. To, it courtney

1732
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 10: you go go ahead and say what you're going. To

1733
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 10: SAY but i was going to say people have called in.

1734
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 10: ABOUT it i just.

1735
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 4: Wanted to say one thing regarding, the FAMILY and i

1736
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: ACTUALLY and i just wanted to double check myself to

1737
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 4: make sure. It's correct but they absolutely whoever said the family.

1738
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: Was Involved and, AJ's mom she mentioned in an interview

1739
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 4: that she drew Strength From emmett. Till's mother if you

1740
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 4: Guys Remember, emmett till fourteen year. Old boy he, was, beaten,

1741
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 4: shot discarded and she demanded an. Open casket so it

1742
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: was their choice for us to.

1743
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 3: Feel like the, physical pain. The, chill YEAH so i did.

1744
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 3: As WELL so i just want to it's THE modern

1745
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 3: i wanted to, say that.

1746
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: That's Right Presenting emmett till in an open casket was very.

1747
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 6: Very purposeful this is the modern day version.

1748
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 3: Of that that's. That's right so, see this feel this

1749
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 3: and that, For me oh.

1750
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 9: My, GOD.

1751
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah i mean the, you're Saying and i'm very sorry

1752
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: for what you're saying about seeing, the pain but, you

1753
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 4: know the point was see and to see these children.

1754
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 3: Doing only what everyone would have, been child.

1755
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: That their children would go outside and begging for what

1756
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 4: this mind is. Doing, Begging yeah so anyway that we

1757
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 4: all feel, so uh, you know impacted was. The INTENTION

1758
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 4: so i just Say that, i'm well. VERY sick, i,

1759
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 4: DID yeah. I did stick.

1760
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: With me it's very well, DONE too i might add

1761
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: sore in body, Cam footage, man's boy is that the

1762
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: answer to a lot of things seeing it with your own.

1763
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: Two eyes and by, the way for law enforcement, as

1764
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: well they just want to have a complete visibility so

1765
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 2: they're not getting accused of things or, you know show

1766
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: you how harroweing this.

1767
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 6: CAN be i thought law enforcement in, THIS documentary i

1768
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 6: thought They were they were so kind to the kids

1769
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 6: and it's not ever seem afraid. OF them i honestly

1770
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 6: the repersentation except for, THE end i was, Very upset

1771
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 6: but prior, to that the representation from law enforcement in

1772
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 6: THIS situation i thought was very.

1773
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 3: WELL done. I, agree yeah the.

1774
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 10: Neighbors and they when that annoying woman when she came

1775
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 10: back to, the neighborhood they were trying to keep, everyone

1776
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 10: calm but IT.

1777
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 3: Was, i mean the kids were.

1778
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 6: The kids they the kids would run up, to, them hey,

1779
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 6: you know like they they were even joking with the.

1780
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: Kids the police like did you take?

1781
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 10: That car and she, Was like i'm.

1782
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: ONLY eleven, i just, you know that was.

1783
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 6: SO cute, i mean they it was good that it

1784
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 6: was good, to see, you know kids in particular kids,

1785
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 6: of color not be afraid.

1786
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 3: OF police i thought that was. REALLY good i really.

1787
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 10: DID well i promise Our Next true Crime and chill

1788
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 10: is going to be something, you know maybe.

1789
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 3: NOT if i have anything to say.

1790
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 6: About it it's going to be heavy and Dark, And dad,

1791
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 6: I'm kidding, I'm kidding i'm.

1792
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Getting well this again is really Flown. By, hey listen

1793
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: tomorrow we have a huge.

1794
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Show too we're going to get a transformation expert with

1795
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 2: us to deal with some of this heavy processing of

1796
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,640
Speaker 2: dark information that. We're doing so make sure you join us.

1797
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night this Has Been true Crime.

1798
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 3: And chill. Stay safe we. Love you bye night