1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Day ba Q podcast. Good Morning's Wednesday, the sixteenth of 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: July in London. I'm Caroline Hepka and. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, Francis Prime Minister 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: warns of mortal danger as he sets out plans to 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: cut almost forty four billion euros in public spending. 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: The UK Chance Levow's to overhaul bank ring fencing rules 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: in a meaningful way as part of her Mansion House 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: speech to the City. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Plus the prime membership every bank wants. Wall Street's one 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: trillion dollar prime brokerage boom lures in European rivals including 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: BNP UBS and Barclay's. 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Let's start with the roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Francis Prime Minister Fransberu has proposed scrapping two public holidays 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: in a bid to repair the public finances. The plans 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: are part of an array of measures totally almost forty 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: four billion euros designed to pare back France's deficit, which 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: is the largest in the euro area. Announcing his proposals, 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister set out the scale of the problem. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Du Vois. 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: We now have a duty to take responsibility. I believe 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: that this is the last stop before the cliff edge 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: and being crushed by debt. It's important to say it clearly. 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: It is a mortal danger for a country. 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Fassobaeru added that France's debt increases by five thousand euros 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: every second. The government is aiming to narrow the budget 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: deaficit to four point six percent of economic output next 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: year from a forecast of five point four percent this year, 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: before bringing it within the European Union's limit of three 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: percent by twenty twenty nine. But with no majority in Parliament, 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Biru may not be able to push through 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: his plans and runs the risk of being forced out 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: through a no confidence vote. 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: In the UK, the chance of Rachel Reeve says that 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: she will reform ring fencing rules for bang So as 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: the government looks to encourage informed risk taking and boost 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: economic growth. Reeves announced a range of measures to cut 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: red tape and scale back post two thousand and eight rules. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: In her annual address to the financial sector. She urged 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: regulators across the economy to be less cautious. 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: In too many areas, regulation still acts as a boot 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: on the neck of businesses, choking off the enterprise and 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: innovation that is the lifeblood of economic growth. Regulators in 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 4: other sectors must take up the call that I make 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 4: this evening not to bend to the temptation of excessive caution, 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: but to boldly regulate for growth in the service of 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: prosperity for our whole country. 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Among Reeves's changes are cut to bank capital and reporting requirements, 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: pairing back rules on the conduct of senior bankers, and 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a rethink of the UK's financial Ombardsman Service. The chance 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: that also use her speech to acknowledge the recent turbulence 52 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: in government after a U turn on welfare reforms and 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: her tearful appearance in Parliament that triggered a brief sell 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: off in guilts. In a separate decision, the UK government 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: also dropped plans to set up a classification for what 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: it terms a green investment after months of lobbying from 57 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: hedge funds. 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: The UK Tax Authority cannot identify how much tax the 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: country's billionaires pay on their wealth, according to a cross 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: party group of MPs. The Public Accounts Committee expressed disappointment 61 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: that HMRC lacked the data to properly assess the country's wealthiest, 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: though the body says it does not have a mandate 63 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: to collect data on individual's overall wealth. The committee's report 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: further underscore is the lack of timely and available data 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: on some of the UK's wealthiest residents and the impact 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: of recent tax changes on departures from the country. 67 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Thousands of Afghans and their families are being relocated to 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: the UK after their personal information was revealed twenty twenty 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: two data breach. More than four thousand have already been 70 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: relocated under the scheme, with a further three thousand people 71 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: expected to come to the UK at a cost of 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty million pounds. Defense Secretary John Healey 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: explained why the secret program was set up. 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: Six months after the fall of Kabul, a Defense official 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 5: emailed an ARAP caseworking file outside of authorized government systems. ARAP, 76 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: as the House knows, is the resettlement scheme that this 77 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: country established for Afghan citizens who worked who worked for 78 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 5: or with our UK armed forces over the combat years 79 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 5: of Afghanistan. 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: John Healey spoke to Parliament after a court super injunction 81 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: blocking the publication both of the scheme and of the 82 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: data breach was lifted on Tuesday. 83 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump says he's likely to announce tariff's 84 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: on pharmaceuticals as soon as the end of the month, 85 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: but he didn't specify a rate. Any levy would likely 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: impact the likes of Eli, Lilly, Mark, and Pfizer, who 87 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: will produce drugs overseas. Trump spoke to reporters at Joint 88 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 2: Base Andrews. 89 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 6: Farmer tunicles will be tariff probably at the end of the. 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: Month, and we're going to start off with the low 91 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: tarraff and give the pharmaceutical companies a year or so 92 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: to bill. 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 6: And then we're going to make it a very high 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 6: terraff because. 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: We got a move of the Trump also predicted that 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: he could strike two or three trade deals before his 97 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: self imposed August first deadline. Representatives from the European Union, 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: which faces a thirty percent tariff, our meeting with US 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: negotiators this week. 100 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Wall Street banks are setting records by trading on Trump 101 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: tariff volatility. JP Morgan's stock traders scored their second best 102 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: quarter ever, delivering five point six nine billion dollars in revenue, 103 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: while City Groups saw its best result in five years. 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: Jared Cassidy, head of US bank equity strategy and large 105 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: bank analyst at RBC Capital Markets says that the period 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: has produced opportunities for the sector. 107 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 7: It's not only the results that are driving these stocks 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 7: hire It's really about the deregulation opportunities for the banks, 109 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 7: and that's a big support for the bank valuations and 110 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 7: these prices. 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: RBC's Jared Cassidy speaking there elsewhere, volatility didn't translate into 112 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: the same gains, though. At Wells Fargo, investment banking fees 113 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: and trading revenue fell short of forecasts. The firm CFO 114 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: said that volatility made clients cautious on boring and making investments. 115 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: Kevin Hasset, director of the white House National Economic Council, 116 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: is the early frontronno to replace Jerome Powell as Federal 117 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: Reserve chief next year. The reporting comes as Treasury Secretary 118 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: Scott Bessant told Bloburg that the former process to find 119 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: a successor to Powell has already begun. Speaking earlier, Besant 120 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: suggested that Powell should also not remain on the Fed's 121 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Board of Governors after his term as chair ends. 122 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 8: We're not going to rush just because of some market deadline. Now, 123 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 8: I think what the market's seeing is market's willing to 124 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 8: look forward three, six, twelve months, and this is going 125 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 8: to be good for the US, is going to be 126 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 8: good for the global economy. 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: Scott Besson says he's part of the decision making process, 128 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: but the decision will come from President Trump at his speed. 129 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: So those are some of our top stories this morning. 130 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Looking at the markets, Asian equities are lower. Looking at 131 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: stock futures for the US also down. USOX fifty futures 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: lower by about a quarter of one percent. The inflation 133 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: data out of the US has started to show tariff 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: passed through that wall was what emerge from the data yesterday. 135 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: So you had treasuries thirty year yields topping five percent 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: yesterday and we stand there still looks like bond vigilantes 137 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: are really stirring. Also in Japan on the long end 138 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: of the JGB curve, a big warning it would seem 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: to other markets like the US the UK. We get 140 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: UK inflation data out at seven am London time this morning. 141 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Dollar spot indexes down a tenth of one percent, 142 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Gold is up so to is Bitcoin gaining more than 143 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: one percent this morning. One hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. 144 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: You've also got oil on the rise and the eurotraining 145 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: at one sixteen seventeen this morning. Those are the markets. 146 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: In a moment, we'll look at why France is proposing 147 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: acting two public holidays to tackle the country's deaficeits plus 148 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: why everyone from Berkleys to BMP Pariba wants a slice 149 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: of the prime brokerage pie. But another story that we've 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: been reading this morning, it's been one hundred years since 151 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: art Deco was formally introduced to the world. It was 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: at the International Expo in Paris in nineteen twenty five. 153 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: But it's a style that's living on and showing up 154 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: most recently in judery. 155 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 9: Yeah. 156 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Kristin Shirley has two beautiful a pair of 157 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: beautiful stories on Art Deco jewelry in Bloomberg Business Week, 158 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: basically why collectors are spending astronomic sums to own original 159 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Art Deco jewelry. And then also she's looking at the 160 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: new designers who are being inspired by this start. Obviously 161 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: it's not just jewelry. The kind of geometric shapes, the colors, 162 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: that industrial inspiration. It's seen in buildings and in other 163 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: forms of design. I mean the period only lasted about 164 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: twenty years, and yet it has enduring kind of beauty 165 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: and appeal to so many people. 166 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean look at some of the kind 167 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: of iconic buildings that we know, the Chrysler building in 168 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: New York as well, the Palid Tokyo and Paris and more, 169 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: and that legacy lives on, which you know, might help 170 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: to see sort of resurgences of the trend over the years. 171 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 8: Yeah. 172 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: There's a wonderful Art deco building really close to where 173 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: I live, the Carrera cigarette factory, and it's got these 174 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: amazing egyptianate cat two black cats. They're enormous, probably twice 175 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: the size of a person outside, which is kind of 176 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: another style influence of that period. Absolutely starting, I just. 177 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: What your walk home is like. Now there's the cats. 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm nearly home. 179 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: It's really a great building. But I just love Kristen's 180 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: piece as well. And there are lots of exhibitions coming 181 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: because of that anniversary. One at the VNA, I know 182 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: there's one in Paris. So yeah, maybe you'll you'll hear 183 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: and learn more about our deco this year. 184 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put a link to that piece in our 185 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: show notes for you. Well, let's bring you more now 186 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: and the budget plans laid out by French Prime minister yesterday, 187 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: including the forty four billion euros and spending cuts and 188 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: plans to act two public holidays, this as he attempts 189 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: to bring France's public finances under control. Our reporter Julian 190 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Pontous joins us from Paris now for more. Julian, good morning. 191 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: What were then the key measures that France Boiberro announced. 192 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 9: One of the key measures is a freeze on central 193 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 9: central state spending. It will also be a mandatory for 194 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 9: local authorities to to curb spending. But it's it's a 195 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 9: very comprehensive plan. 196 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 10: So of course this is the two public holidays you 197 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 10: were talking about, because it's also quite a lot of 198 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 10: measures to curb healthcare spending, social benefits. 199 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 9: There's really merge a lot of state agencies to reduce 200 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 9: their head counts. There are a lot of things, you know, 201 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 9: lower that are being set in plan. It's it's a 202 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 9: very comprehensive plan. As you said, it's about worth about 203 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 9: forty four billion euros, so it's it's it's substantial, but. 204 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean mortal danger. That's a stark warning, isn't it. 205 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: The problem is Baby doesn't have a georgy in parliament. 206 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: So big, big cuts, big plans, but how realistic is 207 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: it that they're going to pass. 208 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 9: Well, some critics will say, actually that the plan isn't 209 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 9: really like a big structural plan with structural measures like 210 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 9: really acting into spending. It's like freezing the spend. It's 211 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 9: a soft version some set of IMF plan. It is 212 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 9: really not like what Greece went through. It's not you 213 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 9: know what Milae has done in Argentina. When you think 214 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 9: about it, it is something that can be done. And 215 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 9: what Baillo said also is like, you know, if we 216 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 9: France does nothing, it will have to pay one hundred 217 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 9: billion euros by twenty twenty nine in interests to the creditors. 218 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 9: So maybe mortal danger is too much. But you know, 219 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 9: you could say it's getting so to a slow death 220 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 9: of the French economy if nothing is done. But you're right, 221 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 9: there's no majority in parliament to do it, so there's 222 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 9: going to be a lot of negotiations going through. When doctor, 223 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 9: for instance, of the two public holidays, a lot of 224 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 9: people are saying, well, already, well two days in France, 225 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 9: that's fourteen hours. Why not spread fourteen hours through the 226 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 9: year and say, you know, work ten minutes more per 227 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 9: week or things like that. There's a lot of negotiations 228 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 9: that you can do, so you know, the jury so 229 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 9: as whether he can really pull it through. 230 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: Of course, this is the dilema that shared by many 231 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: European countries. High public spending, high debt, high deficits. How 232 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: worried are the markets about France. 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 9: At the moment? Not that much like that that spread, 234 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 9: the difference between German bonds and French bonds was went 235 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 9: down just with one beep. So I think they will 236 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 9: succeed succeeded in a way by reassuring markets like you say, like, Okay, 237 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 9: the deficit is not we're serious about tackling it. We're 238 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 9: we're seriously going to do something about it. But you know, 239 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 9: I think the real worry will come this fall, when 240 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 9: you know it will be there will probably there will 241 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 9: be no confinance vote for sure, and you know that 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 9: will be a high stake moment for France because you 243 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 9: know where we would get new elections, there's always the 244 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 9: chance of having a far right government, which the markets 245 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 9: won't like. It's I think, really it's going to become 246 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 9: a key moment for France after the summer holidays. 247 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Julian, thank you so much for being with 248 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: us this morning. That is Juliane Porthos the Live from Paris. 249 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: The European banks have been pouring money into prime brokerage 250 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: in an effort to capture the record revenue that Wall 251 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Street lenders have been earning. In this area, the business 252 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: of lending hedge funds, cash and securities to help execute 253 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: their trades has seen explosive growth in recent years. I 254 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: Finance reporter Will Shaw joins us now for more. Will, 255 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: Good morning. Why has prime brokerage been growing so fast 256 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: and what's the backdrop to all of this? 257 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: Yes, so basically, just to explain the growth, First of all, 258 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 6: revenue from prime has grown faster than any other product 259 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 6: within actually's trading in the past five years. Last year 260 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 6: income hit a record twenty seven point seven billion, according 261 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: to data from Chryslor Coalition Greenwich, and they're expecting it 262 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 6: even higher in twenty twenty five, potentially breaching thirty billion dollars. 263 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 6: And so that essentially comes amid a rapid growth in 264 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: multi strat hedge funds the like of Millennium and Citadel 265 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: around the world which need more resources in order to trade, 266 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 6: and banks like it because it's a gateway to selling 267 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 6: a broader range of services to hedge funds. If you 268 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 6: can get them with prime, it's possible you'll get like 269 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: be able to sell them a much wider product suite 270 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: as well on top of that. 271 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so then who are the biggest players and you've 272 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: talked about some and what are the individual banks doing 273 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: to try to make the most of all of this. 274 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: So the really big ones like you'd expect Morgan, Stanley, 275 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 6: Golden Sacks and JP Morgan, which have all got prime 276 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 6: balances of over a trillion dollars to give you a 277 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: size of the scale of the industry, But smaller banks 278 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 6: are working hard to catch up. So the French film 279 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 6: BMP Parabath, for example, brought in more than one point 280 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 6: five billion in revenue last year from its prime business. 281 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 6: That was up forty percent from the year before, and 282 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: that was it gained a bigger market share than any 283 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 6: of its rivals. So they, for example, have got about 284 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 6: five hundred coders all working to try and make the 285 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 6: business as efficient as possible. Bank of America is trying 286 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: to break into the top three by expanding its offering 287 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 6: and JP Morgan one of the big ones. They made 288 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 6: more than four billion last year. They're now pushing into 289 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 6: Asia Pacific, looking at opportunities in Vietnam and Saudi for example, 290 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 6: building out infrastructure in India and China. 291 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: So what do regulators make about all of this then, 292 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: particularly given the collapse of our key gas that only 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: happened a few years ago. 294 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so nearly four years ago our Chagos capital management collapse, 295 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 6: inflicting devastating damage on its prime brokers, ultimately paving the 296 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: way for the collapse of credits suite. So regulators, as 297 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 6: you would expect, to looking at the quite closely. In Europe, 298 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 6: the European Securities and Markets Authority is warned that hedge 299 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 6: funds active there are running bets with eighteen times leverage 300 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 6: and saying there's a risk of disproportionate reaction to unexpected events. 301 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 6: I should say though, that the regulators are vigilant and 302 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 6: keeping an eye on this situation. There's no suggestion that 303 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 6: they're panicking or that they expect any kind of catastrophe 304 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 6: in the immediate term. 305 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: So then who are the ideal prime customers? 306 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 8: Then? 307 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: From the banks point of view. Who are they focusing on. 308 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 6: So the banks, I think because of the risks that 309 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 6: emerged around Archagos, they want to narrow down the hedge 310 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 6: funds to a small pool that a have a lot 311 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 6: of money and b are obviously quite stable. So they 312 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: really like the big hedge funds like the ones I 313 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: mentioned earlier, and they're focusing a lot of resources on them. 314 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 6: That's made it harder for smaller hedge funds to establish 315 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 6: relationships with prime brokers. There's also a risk that you 316 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 6: can you can get a prime broker as a hedge fund. 317 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 6: Within two years, they're not, You're not making enough money 318 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 6: for your bank, and you find yourself unceremoniously ditched. So 319 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: there's a series of smaller prime brokers like clear Street, 320 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 6: Jones trading firms like that that are that are popping 321 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 6: up to take advantage of this and start servicing smaller firms. 322 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 6: So there's a sort of secondary industry booming around prime. 323 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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