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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Monday edition post twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one NFL Draft edition of Texans All Access. And I

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Speaker 1: think I'm sad, but I think I'm excited. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I don't know. I'm not sure what to

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Speaker 1: do with my hands, kind of like Rickey Bobby, because

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Speaker 1: what do you do now after the draft? But either way,

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Speaker 1: it's done, It's in the books, and we are here

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. I'm your host, John Harris Football,

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Speaker 1: I sildo on Reporter and I have joined right off

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Speaker 1: the bat by the voice of the Texans, my man,

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Speaker 1: Mark Van r Mark Happy post draft Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: to day. How are you doing well, It's weird that

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Speaker 1: it's over, Johnny, because we look forward to it so much.

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Speaker 1: It's such a landmark in the off season, and it's

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Speaker 1: a corner turner, you know, once you hit the draft

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Speaker 1: to get through it, you've turned the corner and you're

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Speaker 1: kind of headed for home. Now you're on the back

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Speaker 1: nine of the off season, rid of a tea off

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Speaker 1: in September, and I really believe that, you know, they've

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Speaker 1: done some good things. I found Nick Cassio, and I

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Speaker 1: know we're gonna hear from him tonight. But I found

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Speaker 1: Nick Casserio's reaction interesting. He didn't want to make too

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Speaker 1: big a deal out of the draft. This is just

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Speaker 1: another part of the off season, another little building block

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Speaker 1: to what they're trying to accomplish in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: and beyond. So I thought that was interesting. He didn't

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Speaker 1: want to blow it up too much. But there certainly

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Speaker 1: are some notable picks here in twenty twenty one for

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Let's start, and you're right, we will have

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario, general manager your Houston Texans, on with us

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Speaker 1: in our next segment. We had a chance to catch

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Speaker 1: up with him Saturday after the draft, and Mark, that

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Speaker 1: was the first thing I stopped to me when we

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Speaker 1: talked to him. It took him kind of a couple

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, not gonna build it up, not

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Speaker 1: gonna reveal you know, things that did or didn't happen,

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Speaker 1: just you know, it's another step in the building of

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Speaker 1: this organization from a personnel standpoint. So it was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: But Mark, the question that Drew asked me on our

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Speaker 1: Draft special, which if you missed it, I know it's

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Speaker 1: I know it's on YouTube, but I think you can

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Speaker 1: also see at a Houston Texas dot com. Hopefully you

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Speaker 1: dv ard it or however you take in your TV content.

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was fabulous. My man Tyler Marcott

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Speaker 1: putting that together, it was just incredible. I mean to

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Speaker 1: think about that, putting that show together and where we've

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. But the question Drew asked me raf

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Speaker 1: the bat mark as now we've had a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: day and a half whatever it's been to kind of

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Speaker 1: think back and go, okay, it's only five picks, Davis Mills,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins, Brevin Jordan, Garrett Wallow, and Roy Lopez Jr.

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Speaker 1: Your overall thought about what the Texans did from a

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view, and then we'll dive into some

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Speaker 1: of these guys individually, but just overall thirty thousand foot view.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel a couple of days after the

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Speaker 1: draft is concluded. I feel they this is if you're

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Speaker 1: making a meal. These are spices the entree. You know,

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Speaker 1: have some side dishes, but again, it's just part of

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Speaker 1: free agent wise, but they know that it's a process

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Speaker 1: and that's why they're not going to sit here and

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Speaker 1: So I feel like they've just added to the mix,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins could turn out to be a hell of

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Speaker 1: a playmaker. You know, I heard Clint, you know, they

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Speaker 1: you know he could be heard from sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Who knows about Davis Mills. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: So I felt like these are seeds being planted. Some

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills. And I've thought about this. I was listening

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Speaker 1: to Landry. He said it probably about as well. I

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Speaker 1: and he's a great guy. But he was making a point,

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Speaker 1: how do you know he would have been a first

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Speaker 1: And if Davis Mills would have been healthy in his

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Speaker 1: I promise you just what all the skills you saw

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Speaker 1: it's pick number sixty seven. There's no guarantee sixty seven

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, if you hit on Davis

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Speaker 1: that he's a CNBC guy the financial world. He finds

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Speaker 1: that interesting, and you know, you buy the stock before

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Speaker 1: they did with Davis Mills. And I use the bananas

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Speaker 1: which you stole from me, by the ways. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: it's a third round pick. You mentioned it. So look

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Speaker 1: all the guys Johnny that were drafted early, Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: not Chicago, Oh God, because they've suffered. But Johnny, look

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Speaker 1: no doubt. And again we have no idea whatsoever, what

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Speaker 1: Nobody can, Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody can answer any of

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Speaker 1: the legal questions going on right now with the Shawn Watson.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can talk about it. We won't because we can't

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Speaker 1: And so at that point you go with what you

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Speaker 1: got right now. Your quarterback room is Trod Taylor, Ryan Finley,

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Speaker 1: and Davis Mills, and we'll see what ends up happening,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the Shawn Watson going forward. But beyond that, Mark,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins and Brevin Jordan are then the next two

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Speaker 1: But I see guys, first of all, on Collins six

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Speaker 1: Jordan what you're looking for in a pass catching tight

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Speaker 1: two picks, and Mark, I don't know if you hit

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Speaker 1: on either one of them. Really, I hope you do.

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Speaker 1: But Nico's taken later in the third, and you get

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Speaker 1: acquisitions they've made are certainly going to help in this department.

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Speaker 1: And we just got to see how they develop this

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Speaker 1: off this defense. You know, I think the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball is intriguing. We talked about the position groups.

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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna do it on future episodes of

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Speaker 1: this show a lot, but you and I went over

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Speaker 1: to bunch on Saturday, and I'm eager to keep sharing

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Speaker 1: those things and going over those things until we see

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Speaker 1: it for real to Houston Methodist Training Center. No doubt,

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Speaker 1: Mark appreciate it. Actually, you're gonna stick around because we

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Speaker 1: talked to GM. Nick Cassario, the man who led this

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Speaker 1: Texans organization making these picks over the weekend, will join

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Speaker 1: us next right here, it's Access. Welcome back to our

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Speaker 1: Monday ed issue of Texans All Access from Monday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio Mobile version. I'm your host, John Harris, Football

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Speaker 1: outside Reporter, Draft expert, constructor of the Harris one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys had a chance to read that get

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Speaker 1: some info from that throughout this entire draft process. On Saturday,

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Speaker 1: when the draft was over and I finally had a

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Speaker 1: chance to kind of catch my breath a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer and I had a chance to catch up

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Speaker 1: with the GM of your Houston Texans, Nick Cassario, and

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts about all that went on even Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Well they didn't make a pick, but everything that went

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Speaker 1: down on Friday and Saturday here is Mark, myself and

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario. Well, the draft is over for the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's over for the entire National Football League. Undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agents are being signed and right now in Texans Draft Live,

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Speaker 1: let's catch up with the general to jove the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: Nick Kissario, Nick, congratulations on the draft, Mark and John

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Speaker 1: with you. How do you feel about what you were

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Speaker 1: able to accomplish this weekend? Nick? Do you hear us? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I got you, Okay, I'm here all right? Tell us

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Speaker 1: how you feel about what you were able to get

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Speaker 1: done this weekend in the NFL draft. Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: we added some players to our team who you know

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Speaker 1: we like m continue the team building process, so put

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Speaker 1: the roster you know, after today eighty three ish, some

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Speaker 1: two players will sign after the draft or work through

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Speaker 1: the whole free agent process, undrafted process. So um, again,

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Speaker 1: just try to be purposeful with what we were trying

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Speaker 1: to do. And again, like we talked about last night,

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Speaker 1: a little bit team building process is ongoing. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: it doesn't end here today. There'll be things that probably

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Speaker 1: players on there on this team that we're not even

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Speaker 1: talking about that'll be here, whether it's through the spring

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Speaker 1: or even in the training camps. We'll just take inventory

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Speaker 1: where we are. There'll be a lot of players so

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Speaker 1: who won't be committed to some teams, who will be

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Speaker 1: looking for some opportunities elsewhere. Again, like there's players that

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Speaker 1: have actually made big impacts on teams who either weren't

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Speaker 1: drafted or drafted or weren't even signed or committed a team.

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Speaker 1: So there will be players that pop up here over

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Speaker 1: the next tow or many days and weeks. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll try to take inventory of what's there, and if

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Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for us to add somebody to our

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Speaker 1: team that we film makes sense, then we'll certainly pursue it. Nick,

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Speaker 1: Since you've been here, you've been going, going, going. You

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Speaker 1: get into free agency, that just gets you the draft prep,

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Speaker 1: then you get the draft. You talk about this being

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Speaker 1: an ongoing process, but do you personally get to kind

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Speaker 1: of step away and catch your breath and just collect

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Speaker 1: yourself to kind of get ready for the rest of

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Speaker 1: that team building process or you just keep grinding twenty

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Speaker 1: four seven. Yeah, Now it's a good question, and you

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Speaker 1: want to take a step to back and just really

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Speaker 1: taken inventory where you are as a team. Again, try

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Speaker 1: not to get too high, get too low, and just

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Speaker 1: understand that this is an ongoing process. Putting a team

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Speaker 1: together takes time. It's never going to be about one

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Speaker 1: particular player, one particular pick. I think that's the intrigue

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Speaker 1: and the beauty behind putting NFL teams and rosters together. Right,

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Speaker 1: There's always opportunities that exists, and you just try to

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Speaker 1: be smart about decisions that should make. So, yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: everybody's put a lot of time and effort into it.

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Speaker 1: The scouting staff has been invaluable. I mean, can't say

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Speaker 1: enough about the work that they've done. So everybody's put

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Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort into it. It's a

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Speaker 1: team effort, it's an organizational effort. You know. My responsibility

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Speaker 1: is to kind of hopefully steered in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: But again, there's a lot of people that are involved,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the important people that are a part

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Speaker 1: of this, and we can't lose sight of the merit

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Speaker 1: of people that put time and effort into this. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to all of us too, to

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Speaker 1: all of us to take a step back and realize

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's football, it's what we do. It's

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Speaker 1: not who we are. So there's time to enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: But by the same token, you know, enjoy the people

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Speaker 1: that we love the most, which is our family, and

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Speaker 1: you know, just make sure we don't lose sight of that, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, because they're more important anything else. So UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's nice to count. At least you have

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Speaker 1: an endpoint where we are right now. But now we

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Speaker 1: kind of transition to spring scouting and kind of looking

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Speaker 1: or looking forward to the false scouting process as it

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Speaker 1: pertained specifically to the college draft for two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty two or whatever it is. Oh wow, we're already

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Speaker 1: working on that all right, Nick. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 1: Revin Jordan's first pick of the day. We talked about

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Speaker 1: last night's picks in the interview last night. But what

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Speaker 1: can you tell us about the tight end from Miami

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Speaker 1: and what your hopes are for him? Yeah, productive player

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Speaker 1: played quite a bit since since his freshman year. UM

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Speaker 1: sixty two and a half almost sixty three two or

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Speaker 1: forty five pounds, so UM, you know, runs fairly well.

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Speaker 1: UM had some production, you know with the ball in

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Speaker 1: his hands. UM. So they've had some decent tight ends

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Speaker 1: still over the past two years, you know down in Miami.

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Speaker 1: UMVN certainly acquiitted himself. Well, so again as we worked

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Speaker 1: through the process, it's picking players relative to what your

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Speaker 1: options are at other spots. So again we talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about this last night, kind of going into

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Speaker 1: the day with five picks, more about maneuvering than specifically

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Speaker 1: trading up. So, you know, we knew there was gonna

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Speaker 1: be I don't know, forty or so players that were

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Speaker 1: gonna be picked before we picked, So there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of discussion around this pick. I'd say there definitely

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Speaker 1: was a lot of a lot of calls from some

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Speaker 1: different teams, but we just didn't feel like trying to

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Speaker 1: move back and maybe move back up. You know, we

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Speaker 1: thought we just the best thing to do for us

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Speaker 1: was just to sit and pick, and we made a

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Speaker 1: pick with Brevin. There's a joke you're on a studio, Nick,

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Speaker 1: that somebody slipped my best player available on my board

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Speaker 1: in front of you, and you went with it because

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Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan was that guy from me. So I was

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Speaker 1: very very excited to see that you drafted Brevin Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I was also excited to see that you did not

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Speaker 1: draft a kicker, and I also excited to see that

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Speaker 1: you drafted a horn rog and Garrett Wallow, what can

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Speaker 1: you tell us about the young man from Louisiana play

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Speaker 1: a TCU. Well, first of all, that list never made

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Speaker 1: it across by test John. That's a shame. Maybe a

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Speaker 1: nine and on Mark's desk or somebody else's test. But

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Speaker 1: that's Garrett. I think when you look at the TCU program,

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Speaker 1: it's all about defense coach Patterson, and he's built the

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Speaker 1: program on defense and players that can run, players that

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Speaker 1: can tackle. UM Garrett h certainly end them embodied what

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Speaker 1: they tried to do defensively. So UM played a little

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Speaker 1: bit inside, played the tasks from the formation a little bit. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, could run and tackle. UH has some similarities

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Speaker 1: to some of the players that that we have currently

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Speaker 1: on the roster, so you know he'll be competitive with

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Speaker 1: that group. Um A plots plots, football makeup and character,

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Speaker 1: which is important, like we talked about last night, if

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Speaker 1: you want to have a team and a culture of competitiveness, selflessness,

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Speaker 1: and toughness, need to be purposeful about the types of

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Speaker 1: players that you bring into the building that exemplify and

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Speaker 1: have those qualities. So let's say let's say Garrett, it

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Speaker 1: fits into that fits into that bucket. Nick give us

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Speaker 1: a comment on Roy Lopez as well. Seems like a

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Speaker 1: lower center of gravity, defensive lineman, beefy guy up front.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about him? Yeah, fall high

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Speaker 1: school wrestler, uh grad transfer, started his career in Mexico

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Speaker 1: and New Mexico State, right, and then what Arizona Dad

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Speaker 1: really successful? Was a successful high school coach there in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: But the way you articulated at mark, you know strong, um,

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Speaker 1: I think he did on all thirty six bench presses

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Speaker 1: or something like that. I mean there's something like ridiculous amounts.

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Speaker 1: So have a good playing strength, players to put a

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Speaker 1: pretty good leverage, a good football makeup, tough instinctive, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, real smart guy. So um again, put him

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Speaker 1: in a mix with our group and everybody's going to

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Speaker 1: be given the same opportunity. M soum. But I say

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Speaker 1: Roy embodies and the out of the qualities that we've discussed,

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Speaker 1: I would say at length Yer over the past however,

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Speaker 1: many weeks and months, Nick, now we've gotten into the

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent process, and for us it's now getting

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Speaker 1: into it because literally our radio is over. But that's

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Speaker 1: probably been going on for a while, making calls, etc.

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Speaker 1: What's that process like. It feels like it's this sprint stime,

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Speaker 1: feels like Houston traffic. You're kind of in one lane sprinting,

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Speaker 1: going over the other lane, kind of going back to

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Speaker 1: the other direction. What's that process like with making calls

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Speaker 1: to prospects that you could potentially sign as undrafted free agents? John,

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Speaker 1: you must be in different traffic. Nobody's sprinting. I think

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Speaker 1: it's more of a crawl. But anyways, yeah, it can be. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's it's probably more chaotic for the players and the

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Speaker 1: agents because once a draft is over, sometimes it four

606
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Speaker 1: the draft is over, their fielding calls and trying to

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Speaker 1: process information quickly because there's only so many chairs at

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Speaker 1: the table and if you don't grab one of those

609
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Speaker 1: chairs and then the team is onto the next one.

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Speaker 1: So you have to really have some understanding of the

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Speaker 1: opportunity that's in front of you. Maybe you've done some

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Speaker 1: research ahead of time. Some of the agents try to

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Speaker 1: earmark certain teams where they feel that that player may

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Speaker 1: fit best. So again, it can be it can be strenuous,

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Speaker 1: and really more so for the players and agents. I

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Speaker 1: think the teams have an idea of players who they

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Speaker 1: feel if they're not drafted, they would earmark and like

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Speaker 1: to bring in. But again, you can't get too caught

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Speaker 1: up in one player. You could say this is our

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Speaker 1: top player, and you allocate time and resources and he says,

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Speaker 1: you know when I'm gonna go another direction. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: you just turn the page and try to go on

623
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Speaker 1: to the next players. So it'll all come together eventually

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Speaker 1: by you know, ex I would say a couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, teams will probably start to get to filling

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Speaker 1: their ninety man rosters. So again, there's opportunities for players

627
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Speaker 1: that aren't drafted just as well as the players that

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Speaker 1: are drafted. So I'm sure there'll be a number of

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Speaker 1: players in this category that will pop up on rosters

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Speaker 1: week one. So again, players come different shapes and sizes,

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Speaker 1: and they can come from many different avenues relatives to

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Speaker 1: how they get to your team, Nick, what can you

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Speaker 1: tell the listeners about when and how you can get

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Speaker 1: these guys together on Texans campus at NRG Stadium on

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Speaker 1: the practice field, how they will go about the rest

636
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Speaker 1: of the off season. Yeah, it's a great question, Mark.

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Speaker 1: So really the first thing for this group, the rookie group,

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Speaker 1: will be rookie Mini Camp. When we have that, we're

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Speaker 1: still working through some of the logistics on that. Then

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Speaker 1: once we get them here for rookie Mini Caamp, then

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Speaker 1: they have the ability to stay for the duration of

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Speaker 1: the off season program, which goes through the middle of June.

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Speaker 1: So really they're going to get force fed a lot

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Speaker 1: of information on a lot of different levels of the

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Speaker 1: football operation, not just schematics, but it'll be strength and conditioning,

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Speaker 1: it'll be football nutrition, it'll be nutrition, a meriat of things.

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Speaker 1: And what you're trying to do is you can get

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Speaker 1: them as prepared as possible for what training camp is

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Speaker 1: going to look like and try to take care of everything,

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Speaker 1: put a foundation in place as much as possible so

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Speaker 1: they come here for training camp they know what the

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Speaker 1: expectation is because then once training camp starts to make

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Speaker 1: things are going to start to move pretty quickly. So

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Speaker 1: we'll have call it four to six weeks for them

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Speaker 1: to really kind of get situated, and our job as

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Speaker 1: a staff is to try to give them as much

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Speaker 1: information as possible that there is Nick as Serrio GM

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Speaker 1: or Houston Texans talking about this process, what these rookies

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Speaker 1: are up against over the next few weeks, but can't

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Speaker 1: wait to get them in the building. I'll let them

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Speaker 1: start to get as he said, situated, know where everything is,

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Speaker 1: find where everything is. And the last year it was

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Speaker 1: a whirldwinning. It'll be a whirldwin for these guys as

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Speaker 1: well coming in. However, you bring them in, you let

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Speaker 1: him compete and see where you are. All right. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: Nick for joining us. That was its great stuff all

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Speaker 1: weekend and glad he was able to join us, not

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Speaker 1: just Saturday, but he also joined us Friday night as well.

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Speaker 1: Now there are thirty one of their teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to as quickly as possible. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 1: and give you the Twitter tweet version of how I

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Speaker 1: feel all teams in the league did. I'll attempt this

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Speaker 1: next on Texans All Access. We'm back to their final

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Speaker 1: segment of Texans All Access on this Monday evening, post

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL Draft. I'm your host, John Harris

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Speaker 1: Football is outsider, reporter, draft guy, draft guru, draft Extordan.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you call me, just call me John.

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Speaker 1: That works as well. Now I'm gonna try something. This

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Speaker 1: is going to be an experiment, but we are going

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Speaker 1: to go fast. I'm gonna rip through every single team.

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Speaker 1: Give you just a quick snippet, and I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: through thirty one teams. How about that? Hang on, here

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Speaker 1: we go, all right. Arizona Cardinals gets Savan Collins in

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Speaker 1: the first round, which I was a solid pick at sixteen,

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Speaker 1: But they get Rondale Moore in a second beautiful pick

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Atlanta Falcons. It was Kyle Pitts, Richie Grant,

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Speaker 1: and then a bunch of question marks. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I love what they were able to do in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens got abatement and oh way, I got

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Speaker 1: love the pick of Brandon Stevens at number one oh

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Speaker 1: four overall in the third round. But Tyland Wallace might

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Speaker 1: be the biggest surprise there at one thirty one. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna pan out in Baltimore. I like what

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Speaker 1: Baltimore did, some high upside there with those picks and

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Speaker 1: a lot of college prediction coming to Baltimore. Buffalo Gregor

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Speaker 1: Rousseau goes at number thirty. To get him at number thirty,

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Speaker 1: I thought was great, but then to double up and

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Speaker 1: get Carlos bash him in the second round. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I think the surprise there might be Damar Hamlin at

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Speaker 1: pick number two twelve for the Bills. Just get to

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Speaker 1: Carolina where they did a lot of things on offense,

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Speaker 1: including Terrace Marshall, Mellish you, Brady Christiansen, Tackloman Byu, Tommy Trembell,

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Speaker 1: the best blocking tight end in this draft, Chub Hubbard,

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Speaker 1: the running back out of Oklahoma State that Matt Rule

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Speaker 1: faced when he was at Baylor, Deontay Brown at guard Man.

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Speaker 1: They did some good things. I think I like that

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Speaker 1: draft for Carolina. Chicago drafted justin fields. That's all you

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Speaker 1: need to know. So go to Sit Saddy Bengals. They

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Speaker 1: eskewed Penney Sewell early in this draft to go with

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Then they went with to me a questionable

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Speaker 1: pick at forty six, that's Jackson Carmen. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: it works out. But I like Joseph Osai at number

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Speaker 1: sixty nine. So we want to Cleveland Browns, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: smashed it completely and totally smashed it, and it could

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Speaker 1: be just the first two picks. Greg Newsom the corner

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Speaker 1: goes at twenty six. Jeremiah Koramora fell a little bit

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Speaker 1: because of a heart conditioned but cleared before the draft.

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Speaker 1: He goes at number fifty two. Those two picks to

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Speaker 1: me make the draft. But you throw on James Hudson

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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati with some high upside, and offensive line Tommy

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Speaker 1: Togia and the defensive line with some strength, and then

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Speaker 1: Weapon X and round seven to Metric Felton. My goodness,

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Speaker 1: great draft, great draft for Andrew Berry. And to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns and Dallas Cowboys. Hit Michael Parsons, hit OsO Diggi Zua,

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Speaker 1: hit Chauncey Golston, big hit, Jabril Cox, big hit, seem Fihoku.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, But way they went high risk, how reward

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Speaker 1: in the second round with Kelvin Joseph. I hope it

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Speaker 1: pans out, But that's the corner they're relying on. It's

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Speaker 1: not highly reliable. Let's go to Denver No Justin Field,

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Speaker 1: but Patrick Curtan. That pick will be the question mark

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Speaker 1: for the next five years. If Curtan's all pro, they'll

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Speaker 1: big deal. If Justin Fields is an all pro, massive deal.

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Speaker 1: Jamante Williams. They traded up to get the second round.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they got my guy, Quinn Miners at number

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Speaker 1: ninety eight. Overall, the question will be what Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: does in Chicago and the Devenver make a mistake by passing.

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Speaker 1: Detroit got Pinney Sewell, Levion zurique, A, Lee McNeil, i,

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Speaker 1: Fiatu melfon Wu, and Derek Brown in the fourth round,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Jefferson in the seventh. I loved Detroit's draft, love it.

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Speaker 1: Not a huge fan of mont Ross. Saint Roma at

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Speaker 1: number one twelve overall, gotta take it. Green Bay took

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Speaker 1: a corner in the first round. Green Bay took a

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Speaker 1: corner in the first round. I actually liked their pick

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Speaker 1: later on, like Josh Spyers at sixty two, May Rodgers

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Speaker 1: eight eighty five, and to Darro Slayton at one seventy

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Speaker 1: three was a guy that I thought maybe the Texans

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Speaker 1: would look at just because of his size and strength

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Speaker 1: over the nose. But Eric Stokes will be that pick

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Speaker 1: four Green Bay that everybody points back to. Did they

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Speaker 1: get it right? We'll find out. The Colts. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit. Quitty pay Dao at Deengbo

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Speaker 1: those two picks right off the bat. I don't say

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Speaker 1: high risk, high reward. Dao's got an injury. He's coming

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Speaker 1: back from Quitti Pay. I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: player when when when you see what he's come from

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Speaker 1: and what he put his mind to. I really like

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Speaker 1: Quitti Pay at number twenty one overall for the Colts,

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Speaker 1: not for us, but for the Colts, Jaguars Jacksonville a

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Speaker 1: lot of picks I like here. Maybe the best pick

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Speaker 1: overall to me might have been Jalen Camp sixty three,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pound wide receiver at pick two

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Speaker 1: O nine to the seventh round. That might be their

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Speaker 1: pick of their draft. To be honest with you, Walker,

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Speaker 1: little piscol High school grad in Houston, goes to number

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Speaker 1: forty five. I think he could grow into a starter. Overall.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give the Jags the thumbs up. Reluctant Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs drafted Creed Humphrey at center in the second round.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Trey Smith in the sixth round. Those are

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Speaker 1: two starters, and they may get a starter. Actually they'll

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Speaker 1: get to start out of Nick Bolton. It's just a

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Speaker 1: matter of when I thought. For only having six picks,

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Speaker 1: two poor six picks, the Chiefs did really really nice

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Speaker 1: job Tray Smith and a six as a killer. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Las Vegas Raiders Alex Letherwood in the first

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Speaker 1: I was not as high in him, but I could

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Speaker 1: see it. Then they stole a pick. I think their

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Speaker 1: Texas were looking at and Nate Hobbs in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: It was a typical Raiders draft, a lot of kind

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Speaker 1: of question marks that if they turn into something, you go, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. But if they don't, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: could get nasty. The Chargers are next. Sean Slater at

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Speaker 1: thirteen gets some protection from Justin Herbert Sthay. Samuel Junior

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Speaker 1: at forty seven. I love to pick a Josh Palmer,

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Speaker 1: the receiver from Tennessee at seventy seven. Those to me

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Speaker 1: were the big picks. The surprise pick could be down

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Speaker 1: in the sixth round. Larry roundtreey running back from Missouri.

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Speaker 1: I really liked him. The La Ram's first pick. Your son,

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Speaker 1: if he's twelve years or under, might be bigger than

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Speaker 1: two two out. Well, he's one hundred and forty five pounds,

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Speaker 1: but he runs a four to two. He can fly.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of questions with the Rams draft. They

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Speaker 1: took some question marks. If these guys hit, it would

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Speaker 1: be great. Bobby Brown, I loved him, Robert Rochelle really

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Speaker 1: loved the speed Ernest Brown in the fifth round, fifth round,

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Speaker 1: sixth round from Northwestern. If those guys hit, this could

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Speaker 1: be a great draft. If not, you won't get much

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Speaker 1: out of it. Miami Dolphins Jalen Waddle, Jaylen Phillips, Javon

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Speaker 1: Holland Boom boom boom, and then Lee Miikelberger forty two.

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Speaker 1: They made the most of having extra picks in the

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Speaker 1: top fifty. Crushed it. Minnesota moving down to get Christian

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Speaker 1: Darris saw brilliant move got him some extra third round picks,

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Speaker 1: that's sure. I love some of the other picks they made.

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Speaker 1: I do love Genarius Robinson in the fourth round at

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Speaker 1: one thirty four. That was some brilliant maneuvering right there.

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Speaker 1: But Christian darrisaw would be the guy. If he protects

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Speaker 1: quarterback great. If not, could be trouble New England Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones all, I gotta say about that. What happens there,

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Speaker 1: We'll see New Orleans Saints a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: risk with Payton Turner, but I love Pete Warner overall.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I love it took Gan Book.

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Speaker 1: In the fourth round, New York Giants took Knarius Tony

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Speaker 1: and the Jags wanted him. I can live with that,

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Speaker 1: Asiz Ojulard. Number fifty I think was a Steel Jets

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson trade up to get Elijah Vera. Tucker then

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Speaker 1: took Elijah More and running back Michael Carter, all within

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Speaker 1: picks one oh seven the first one hundred and seven picks.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant job by Joe Douglason. The Jets brilliant. Eagles traded

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Speaker 1: up to get Davonte Smith, also got Landon Dickerson. When

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Speaker 1: he comes back, that'll be a steal. And then they

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Speaker 1: got two of my buddies clients back to back, Mitt

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Speaker 1: Williams from Latech Zach Feerson the corner from Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully they will all do well, Patrick Johnson. The

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Speaker 1: seventh rounds of Freaking Steel Steelers Nagee Harris, Pat Friar Muth.

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Speaker 1: Here we come. Best pick there might be Kendrick Green

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Speaker 1: and third center steps right in as a starter. San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers trade Lance number three. Overall, no

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Speaker 1: matter what else they did, the draft comes down to

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Speaker 1: what he does. The Seahawks had three picks. I loved

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Eskridge, loved Trey Brown in the fourth and so foresight.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people, my buddy included Lanzerlin, thought he

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Speaker 1: was one of the better tackles in the draft to

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Speaker 1: get him. And in two o eight Tampa Bay Joe Tryon.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a player for them.

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Speaker 1: I really do again. Jalen Darden weigh in the fourth round,

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Speaker 1: huge value Titans, Caleb Farley, it's a dude, Eli Elijah

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Speaker 1: Molden at number one hundred, dude, Des Fitzpatrick and one

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Speaker 1: oh nine dude after that. Not much, but they got

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Speaker 1: some value in that draft. Watching football team, Jamie Davis

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Speaker 1: is the hottest stock going, but keep an eye and

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Saint Juice to corner number seventy four. He's a stud,

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Speaker 1: absolute stug corner. And that, my friends, is your twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one draft in a nutshell. Appreciate you guys listening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow. As always, Go Texans.