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Speaker 3: Well, we hate talking about it, but we got to

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Shane Bieber, Spencer Strider Maybe Jonathan Lewiseaga it sucks, and

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Baseball in twenty twenty four. By the way, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's a Just Baseball show Monday, April eighth that is

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Speaker 3: presented by bet MGM, Jack McMullan, arm lighton. We got

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Speaker 3: to talk about the TJ influx. I would like good

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Speaker 3: news off the top, skip Schumacher, bad news again, what

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Speaker 3: the hell? And then Minor League opening weekend, which is fun.

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Speaker 3: I also want to sprinkle in some Yoshi Noba Yama

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Speaker 3: Moto because he is not washed. He's been really good

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Speaker 4: But doctor, why.

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Speaker 3: Do do you want to start with that? Or do

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Speaker 3: you want to say like, hey man, how are you? No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just like disclaimer and it's probably partly because

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Speaker 4: But I think there's gonna be a theme on this show.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be a little bit of a curmudget today.

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Speaker 4: But I have a lot of things that are bothering

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Speaker 4: me in all different facets and I'm just gonna be

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Speaker 4: Hopefully you enjoy it. But there's just a lot of

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Speaker 4: things that are like bothering me right now.

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate the forewarning. The Yama Modo conversation is

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Speaker 3: like is positive at its core, but it may sound

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Speaker 3: like you're dunking on the haters. So I want to

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Speaker 3: like give you the floor and let you dunk on

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Speaker 3: the haters.

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Speaker 4: Well, so it's not even about that. I just and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like the affinity for just

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Speaker 4: seeing the Dodgers stink, you know, because of what they

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Speaker 3: Like I get it, people people love that, and like

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Speaker 3: I don't really get that. I get rooting against the

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, what that. That's where it's weird

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Speaker 4: I'm going to imagine that he isn't gonna suck. Yes,

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Speaker 4: And you don't have that kind of success for that

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Speaker 4: one thing I do want to see now is Yama

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Speaker 4: We know he can do it. I mean in MPB

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Speaker 4: But I'm just excited to see that now at the

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Speaker 4: is again I'm not sitting here rooting for the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: Dude, what was the best thing to happen to Miami

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Speaker 3: and I see a section of the internet trying to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's it's weird stuff, especially because I

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Speaker 3: before any of this shit happened, and we're having the

431
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Speaker 3: same fucking conversation eight years later.

432
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Speaker 4: Sucks. Yeah, Yeah, I'm definitely gonna read it, and I

433
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Speaker 4: think it's It's one of those things that's now, like

434
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Speaker 4: you know, relevant, It's always going to be relevant.

435
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Speaker 3: It's always relevant.

436
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Speaker 4: The last thing I want to mention, though, is you

437
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 4: have a world I think where of course we're going

438
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: to look at major League Baseball and the variables there

439
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 4: and say, okay, well now pitchquwak is added, and you know,

440
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: we have some confirmation bias because we continue to see,

441
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 4: you know, these top arms go down. But I think

442
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Speaker 4: when you operate that way, and it kind of ties

443
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 4: back to my initial point, you're ignoring it. It's almost

444
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Speaker 4: operating under the assumption that every UCL enters Major League

445
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 4: Baseball perfect intact with nowhere and tear, and then what's

446
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 4: happening in Major League Baseball is causing these injuries, right.

447
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: I think that's the part that's getting lost is these guys,

448
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: especially these major league pitchers, have been throwing ninety five

449
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 4: since they were in a lot of them even since

450
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Speaker 4: they were in high school or early in college. And

451
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 4: when I look at this quote from James Andrews, and

452
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 4: this is the one that really reminds me. And this

453
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: might be a little extreme, but I think it's just

454
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 4: puts things in perspective. This is from years and years ago.

455
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Speaker 4: This is a quote. These kids are throwing ninety miles

456
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Speaker 4: per hour their junior year of high school. He says,

457
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 4: the ligament itself can't withstand that kind of force. We've

458
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Speaker 4: learned in our research lab that baseball is a developmental sport.

459
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: The Tommy John ligament matures at about age twenty six

460
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: in high school. The red line where the forces go

461
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: beyond the properties of the ligament that they can handle

462
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Speaker 4: is about eighty miles per hour. So I mean, you know,

463
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Speaker 4: most of those kids can handle more than that. And

464
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: it's not saying that it's just going to snap immediately,

465
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Speaker 4: but it is putting wear and tear and stress on

466
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Speaker 4: your arm before you're even getting to college or getting

467
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Speaker 4: to professional ball. So I think that part of it's

468
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: kind of ignored. And I'd imagine that exceeding that threshold

469
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Speaker 4: that James Andrews is mentioned is probably more damaging than

470
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Speaker 4: a fully developed arm. Throwing more frequently in terms of

471
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Speaker 4: time intervals, and again I think it could contribute, but

472
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Speaker 4: I venture to say that throwing ninety at age seventeen

473
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Speaker 4: or ninety three at age seventeen is more damaging than

474
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 4: throwing a pitch every eighteen seconds instead of every twenty

475
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: five seconds. It might still contribute, but I think we've

476
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Speaker 4: really lost sight of what the majority of the issue is.

477
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Speaker 4: I don't know what the fix is, but we have

478
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Speaker 4: to look from a youth all the way up to now.

479
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: And I think major League Baseball the same way that

480
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 4: they know are are looking to, you know, engage I

481
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: think baseball and inner cities and things like that, which

482
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Speaker 4: I think is a really important initiative. I think another

483
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Speaker 4: initiative that they should really spearhead now is armcare and

484
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Speaker 4: arm health for young players, you know, all the way through.

485
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Speaker 4: And I don't know how you do that. I don't

486
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: know what the plan is, the same way the NFL

487
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 4: does things with youth football to mitigate concussions, and you know,

488
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: whether it's showy or not, I think that's the avenue

489
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: they need to start going down because these players, it's

490
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: only going to get worse. You have the next wave

491
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Speaker 4: of kids that are throwing harder at a younger age,

492
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Speaker 4: and it's just going to continue to get worse.

493
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Speaker 3: Dude. I mean, we like Charlie Soto because Charlie Soto

494
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: was throwing ninety eight out of college.

495
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: Right like out of high of high school.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon Burrera, who's in the Blue Jay system, like

497
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Speaker 3: he was a first round pick because he was throwing

498
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Speaker 3: ninety eight from the left side out of.

499
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Speaker 4: High school in South for to see what happened yesterday

500
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Speaker 4: he got Yeah.

501
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: He left. Yeah. Come on, come on, I want to

502
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: read you an excerpt from Dylan Cease's Wikipedia page, because

503
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Speaker 3: I think Cease is actually a pretty good example of

504
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: this and had a pretty honest conversation with me and

505
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: Taylor Davis last year. Seas attended Milton High School in Milton, Georgia,

506
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Speaker 3: pitching for the school's baseball team. His fastball velocity averaged

507
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Speaker 3: ninety one to ninety five while peaking at ninety eight

508
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: miles per hour in August twenty thirteen. Prior to Cease

509
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: his senior year at Milton, Jonathanmeayo of MLB dot Com

510
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: considered Cease to be a potential first round draft pick

511
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: in the upcoming twenty fourteen MLB draft. Cease left the game.

512
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: Cease left a game during his senior season on March

513
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: third due to elbow soreness, which was later diagnosed as

514
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Speaker 3: a partial tear of the owner collateral ligment. Of the

515
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: elbow is pitching arm. He then went from a projected

516
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: first round pick to signing for one point five in

517
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Speaker 3: the sixth round with the Cups. He fell five rounds.

518
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, was he a potential first round pick because

519
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: he was throwing ninety eight in high school?

520
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

521
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: Did he fall to the sixth because he blew out?

522
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 4: Yes?

523
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: If we're going to reward what will push your body

524
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Speaker 3: to the brink, somehow there's discipline for it. Somehow there

525
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: are ramifications for pushing your body too far, which is ridiculous.

526
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Speaker 3: So that's the last thing I want to say on velocity.

527
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: I do want to point to like the one thing

528
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: that I think Major League Baseball might have screwed up.

529
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the pitch clock. I don't and

530
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: the Players Association could believe that the pitch clock is

531
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: a contributing factor. I could absolutely see it as a

532
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: contributing factor, but I don't view it as the primary factor.

533
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: No, exactly. That's the distinction I think is really important

534
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 4: because again, if you can if it rectifies the issue

535
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: by a few percentage points, and the yeah, let's explore it.

536
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: But for sure, the correlation between velo and injury is

537
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 4: too strong for it to ever be a secondary factor, right,

538
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 4: so Velo is the primary factor.

539
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 3: I view the pitch clock as the tertiary factor. What

540
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: I view is the secondary factor is what we cracked

541
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Speaker 3: down on. It was either twenty twenty one or twenty

542
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Speaker 3: twenty two. I think it was twenty twenty two.

543
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 4: Crazy how much time flies, right, you can boord it.

544
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 4: You could convince me it was any of those years.

545
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: No idea, but it was the substance crackdown. It was

546
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: the sticky substance crackdown. And it might have been twenty

547
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty twenty two. I would guess No, it

548
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: was two because glass Now came back at the No,

549
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 3: Glassnew came back at the end of the twenty two season.

550
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: He blew out in twenty one. He pitched the full

551
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: year in twenty three through one hundred and twenty innings,

552
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: so he Yeah, it was twenty twenty one that I

553
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: think is the secondary factor. And I'm gonna play you

554
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: Tyler glass Now right after he blew out, right after

555
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: he towards UCL. This was a couple starts after the

556
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: sticky substance cracked out. This is from the rays I

557
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: guess this is his zoom media availability. So this is

558
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: from the Tampa Bay Rays. I think he was also

559
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: on Ballet Sports sun. So listen to this. It's about

560
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: two minutes long and then we'll cap it.

561
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Speaker 5: But I one hundred percent believe that contributed to me

562
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: getting hurt, of no doubt, without a doubt. I think, like,

563
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 5: it's it's ridiculous. I'm just gonna I have used sticky

564
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 5: stuff before. It's ridiculous that, like it seems like this

565
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 5: whole public perception of like, oh, it's just like a

566
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: selection few people, like your favorite pitcher probably fifty years

567
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: ago was using something too, Like if you felt these

568
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 5: balls how inconsistent, they were like you have to use something.

569
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: So in the past, I my like substance of choice

570
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: is sunscreen and rosin, like just nothing. Agree to something

571
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 5: to where I can get a grip on the ball

572
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 5: so it doesn't feel dusty. But two starts ago against

573
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: the Nationals, I went cold turkey nothing. And before that start,

574
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: I remember when all this stuff came out, I was

575
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: talking to people and talking to doctors and they were

576
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 5: like the thing that maybe MLB doesn't realize or that

577
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: players don't realize is like what is the injury, Like

578
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 5: what is the prevention of?

579
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: Like maybe it'll add to injuries.

580
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 5: And in my mind, I was like, that sounds dumb.

581
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 5: That sounds like an excuse a player would use to

582
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: make sure he can use sticky stuff. But I threw

583
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 5: to the Nationals with nothing. I've never been I don't

584
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: use sticky stuff to I don't use spider tack. I

585
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 5: don't need more spin. I have huge hands. I spin

586
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 5: the ball fine, I want grip. I did well against

587
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: the Nationals, probably one of the best starts I had

588
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: all year. I woke up the next day and was like,

589
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 5: I am sore in places that I didn't even know

590
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: I had muscles in. Like I felt completely different. I

591
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: switched my fastball grip and my curveball grip. I've thrown

592
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: it the same way for however many years I've played baseball.

593
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 5: I had to change. I had to put my fastball

594
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 5: deeper into my hand and grip it way harder. And

595
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 5: I had to instead of holding my curveball at the

596
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: tip of my fingers, I had to dig it deeper

597
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 5: into my hand. So I'm choking the shit out all

598
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: my pitches. My que I used to use with Snyder

599
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 5: was hold the ball like an egg, like nice and loose,

600
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 5: be loose. That's out of the window. So I now

601
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: have to develop a new queue. I have to develop

602
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: something where I can't hold the ball light anymore. I

603
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: have to dig it deep into my hand. So I'm

604
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 5: taking it and you have to think I'm not a doctor.

605
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 5: I know you guys probably know that, but I'm taking

606
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 5: a fastball. I'm squeezing the ball twice as hard. So

607
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: all of this is I'm recruiting all these muscles and

608
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm taking my arm as hard as I can.

609
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: So the essence of what he's saying is like there's

610
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: pressure put on your arm when you're forced to grip

611
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: the baseball in a way that these guys never grip

612
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: the baseball before. And I do think that that is

613
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: a contributing factor. And if you're sitting here and you've

614
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: got like a ball type thing, hold the ball and

615
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: squeeze on it hard with your index, your middle and

616
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: your thumb. If you don't have a ball, literally take

617
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: your index in your middle, and if you're watching on YouTube,

618
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: do what I'm doing and pinch it to your thumb

619
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: and squeeze and feel what's tightening up and it's literally

620
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: shooting right down the forearm and it's shooting right here.

621
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Speaker 3: The end is literally the inside of your elbow. I

622
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: think that is the most valid non velocity thing that

623
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: I've heard, and I think last Now was on it.

624
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: I definitely think it's a contributor, and I think that's

625
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: one of the things that they could identify to maybe

626
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: take a little bit of pressure off of the arm

627
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: and figure out just how to go about that. But

628
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: I also think that if you never had the sticky

629
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: stuff crack down twer, Glasstown probably blows out as you

630
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 4: see l again anyways, and he's probably and he's always hurt,

631
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: and he's a guy that's been throwing fuzz forever. He's

632
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: a massive human. So that's the tough part of push

633
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: and pull for me. But at the end of the day,

634
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: if it's something that is ten percent contributing even five percent,

635
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: let's find a way to rectify that. Because I don't

636
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: really know any solution to the velocity thing. There there

637
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: is no there is no evolution. I don't know if

638
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 4: we could come up with if there's more research that's

639
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: done and exercises and ways that you can strengthen that

640
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: ligament specifically, maybe we find more things out there. I

641
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: don't know, but we're at the point now where it's like,

642
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: good to get the Tommy John out of the way earlier.

643
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: You can just roll from there.

644
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: What a sad reality and like, hey, your second is

645
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: going to come at some point, like it's insane. I

646
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: put together an all two TJ team and it was disgusting.

647
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: It was de Gram, McClanahan, Bueler, Evaldi, Reagan's was in there.

648
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: There's one more big name that I'm missing, Rasmussen. Rasmussen's

649
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: in there is a trio with the Brace Now, yeah,

650
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: with Brace that there's one more name that I'm missing

651
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: right now, and I'm gonna find it, man, I don't know.

652
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'll find it eventually.

653
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: Walker shoved Walker kicked ass.

654
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that in a moment. We're also

655
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: gonna proceed that with some bad news, but before that,

656
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: a quick break. All right, here's the bad news that

657
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: I kind of want to get out of the way here.

658
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Skip Schumacher had his club option voided for twenty twenty five,

659
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: and I will let you describe what that means and

660
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: describe how pissed off it makes you go.

661
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: I mean pissed off, like again, the team just can't

662
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: they can't hurt me apathy. Yeah, yeah, that's disappointed. I

663
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: feel from Orleans fans, I will be pissed off. In

664
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: one scenario, if Gabe Kaplor becomes the manager next year,

665
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: I will be pissed off. So what came out was

666
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: Bob Nightingale reported that Schumacher's option had been voided in

667
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: the winter, so going into the season, they said, hey, Skip,

668
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: you know we're going to avoid that option, which maybe

669
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: there's some nuance to the contract I'm not aware of,

670
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: but I just don't understand why you would do that

671
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: before the season when you could just exercise or not

672
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 4: exercise the option after the year. Maybe they wanted to

673
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: give Skip the courtesy to know that after this year,

674
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: but why would you want that? Why would you want

675
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 4: You just made the playoffs, and I think that they

676
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: were a fluky playoff team. Don't get me wrong. I

677
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: didn't think that they should have pushed all the chips forward. However,

678
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: I do think that they should have tried to make

679
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: the team better. They didn't, And then you think about

680
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: what they did or didn't do in the off season.

681
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: And then you take your manager, who I think has

682
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: been one of the bright spots. And if the Marlin's

683
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: overachieved last year, clearly the Marlins front office, Peter Bendix,

684
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: feels like they overachieved. And if you feel like they overachieved,

685
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: you have to look right at the manager and say, wow,

686
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 4: he must have played a part in us overachieving. So

687
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: not only does he behave in Bendix in a way that, Okay,

688
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: we overachieved, So I'm not going to do anything crazy

689
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: to try to add to this team because they're not

690
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: going to be good enough no matter what. He also says,

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: this manager's not going to cut it for us either.

692
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: So they overachieved, but the manager is also not the

693
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: guy for them. That makes no sense to me, and

694
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 4: I can kind of theorize why they're doing this, But

695
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: the biggest thing for me is you go into this

696
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: season and I look, I didn't think that they were

697
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: going to be good this year, but you got to try,

698
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: especially when you're trying to build a fan base. Here,

699
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: you just made the playoffs for the first time in

700
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: a long time. Besides twenty twenty, you finally have some momentum.

701
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: Why would you want your manager to be a lame

702
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: duck after a playoff season. Why would you want to

703
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 4: go into the year with the team knowing that the

704
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: manager's pretty much managing for nothing and Skips a pros pro,

705
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: you wouldn't ever be able to know what the way

706
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: he goes about his business. I think he's one of

707
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: the best things that they have going on in the organization.

708
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: Which is the irony, And you don't add to the team.

709
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: You don't you make it clear that your manager's pretty

710
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: much on a one year deal. And you have the

711
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: whole fiasco with with Kim Ang as well. When something

712
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: finally starts to happen for this franchise, it it seems

713
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 4: like they freak out and they got to make it

714
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 4: all go back to shit again. And I just feel

715
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 4: for Marlins fans because I know that they like Skip.

716
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 4: I know that a lot of the people you know

717
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: around the org do like Skip, and everyone that's worked

718
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: with him has liked him. So it's you know, I'm

719
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: happy for Skip. We'll be able to go to.

720
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: Maybe a better organization.

721
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this will be the second and so he

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: won Manager of the Year and then you'll have one

723
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 4: year and then I'll go. But the Marlins also, you know,

724
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight or two thousand and nine,

725
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: fired Joe Girardi the year he won Manager of the Year.

726
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: That was Jeffrey Loria's team. But it's just a classic

727
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 4: thing now. And one last note, I think it's because

728
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: Skip Schumacher is your classic manager where I do think

729
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: he'll work with the front office of course and things

730
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: like that, but he's a player and he's a guy

731
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: that's going to go off of feel is, you know,

732
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: and we talk about like Snit, you know, Brian Snicker.

733
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: I think he's kind of cut from that cloth where

734
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: he can tow both lines. But I think when you

735
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: look at what Peter Bendix wants to do and having

736
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 4: the forty person front office that includes Gabe Kapler, I

737
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: think they want to manage from upstairs and Skip Schumacher

738
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: at gonna let you manage from upstairs. If Gabekpler isn't

739
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: the next manager, I am willing to bet anything that

740
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 4: the next manager of the Marlins has zero managing experience.

741
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: I feel very confident about that that it'll be somebody

742
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: with zero managerial experience that will just kind of be that.

743
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: You know, Yes, man, Puppet.

744
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: That's a theory that I can totally get behind. I

745
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: think you're spot on with where you're at there, and.

746
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: That's no information on that. That is literally just gut

747
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: feels like saying based on the way that things have

748
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: kind of just moved around a little bit.

749
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So if it's not Gabe Capler, it's someone that's

750
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: a first time managed, some one I've never heard of. Yeah,

751
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: I can absolutely get behind that theory. I know it's

752
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 3: your gut field, but I'm I'm totally believing the gut field.

753
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: And beyond that, also, who the hell wants that job?

754
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. Like it's it's a big league

755
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: manager job. There are a lot of people that would

756
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: take but if you're a former big league manager, oh no,

757
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: nobody wants it. That's my point. So it's twofold. I

758
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be similar with no experience. Yeah, I

759
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: can totally get behind that. I was gonna compare it

760
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: to the Raptors firing Dwayne Casey, but the shit version.

761
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: But Girardi's the better comp because it's like, you know,

762
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: they found a guy to like help them win a

763
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 3: title in Toronto on the basketball front. But this one

764
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: is just like you're going from a guy that was

765
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: clearly the National League Manager of the Year last year, like.

766
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: It wasn't so respected in the game too.

767
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like everybody as soon as that happened

768
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: and he was manager of the Year, people were like,

769
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: hell yeah, Skip. It was a great reaction. I've never

770
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: seen a bad story come out about Skip Schumacher, the

771
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: player or the manager. And here we are are, like

772
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: cost cutting. I don't know what's going on.

773
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: I don't know what they're doing. I think it's it's

774
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: just getting you know, in control, and Bennix wants to

775
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: bring in his people and you know, we'll see how

776
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: it goes. But uh, it's the irony is Joe Girardi

777
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: got fired because Jeffrey Laurier was just breathing down his

778
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: neck and then he tried to get near the dugout

779
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: and I think Girardi just told told him to fuck off,

780
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: and Lauria couldn't handle that and fired him. So again,

781
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: different ownership, but kind of the same story. The Marlins

782
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: can't get out of their own way, and I think

783
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: this is just the latest example of that. They did

784
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: finally win though one in nine. Yeah, Max Meyer did

785
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: look they look sharp, and they watched Max Meyer do

786
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 4: his thing.

787
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: They beat up the big bad Kyle Gibson in Saint Louis.

788
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: That was that was, Hey, Hey, you're trying to get

789
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: the offense going. It's running to Kyle Gibson, running to

790
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: Kyle Gibson.

791
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: I want to wrap with something positive and that is

792
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: opening weekend of Minor league baseball. We are back, baby.

793
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: It is so much fun and on the call up

794
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: we did the best minor league rosters by level. We

795
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: also have breakouts and there's a ton of corresponding written

796
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: stuff on Just Baseball dot Com to go along with

797
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: this as well. We're really looking to broaden our editorial

798
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: reach on the minor league front, on the prospect coverage

799
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: this year, and we've brought in some great guys to

800
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: do it, and we had guys that were already on

801
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: staff that are going to continue doing a great job

802
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 3: with that. But do kind of want to run through

803
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: some of the best performances of the first full weekend

804
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 3: of minor league baseball. Because I was getting back from

805
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: the ballpark and I was putting on the moon landing

806
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: adjacent Modesto Nuts broadcast and I was like, you know what,

807
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: let's let's do it. Oh wow, Cole Emerson went yard.

808
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't. I didn't see it, but like I heard

809
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: the call and it sounded like it went a long ways.

810
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 4: So that that's a really funny aspect of it because

811
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: it's killing me because I want to watch those swings. Right,

812
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: that's one of the best teams in the minor leagues.

813
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: And Jack and I did on the call up a

814
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: little primer of all the best minor league teams that

815
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: you should be following. So even if you're not a

816
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: prospect junkie, you know, just a slow MLB slate, I'm

817
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: gonna scroll through a MILBTV or see the free game

818
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: of the day. Is it worth me watching? Or there's

819
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: a team in your town and you want to know

820
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: if they're worth going to see. Like I get a

821
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 4: lot of dms, honestly, which is good. I love them.

822
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: It's always great. It's like, Oh, I'm coincidentally gonna be

823
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: by Dayton, I'm on a road trip, Like who should

824
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: I be looking for there? Check out the episode because

825
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 4: we highlight some of the best teams the Modesto Nuts.

826
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: Are you know, if we want to highlight opening weekend,

827
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: if you're a Mariners fan, you can't be much more

828
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: excited about the way that that low a team has

829
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 4: started because you have three of their draftees from this

830
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: past year because of their their prospect you know, promotion

831
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 4: incentive extra picks there, and then the way that they

832
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: draft has been to Potos just in his team are

833
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: just fantastic at drafting. But you have Cole Emerson there

834
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: already homer twice this season. You have Ty Pete who's electrifying.

835
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 4: You get back to back games with the Grand Slam

836
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: last year, trying to get it going here this year.

837
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: Johnny Farmelo I think already has two home runs under

838
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: his belt. He motors. And then you have lazarro Montes,

839
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 4: who's the biggest human in the world and one of

840
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 4: Jack's favorite prospects. And then that's not even mentioning Michael Arroyo,

841
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 4: who's a very solid prospect. That is a fun team

842
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: that if you ever get a chance to see them

843
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: in person, you got five guys that are either top

844
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: one hundred or are right on the brink of it

845
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: in that line up pretty much in order.

846
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it's very, very fun and modesto was

847
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: one that jumped out Portland. Oh my god, the Portland

848
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 3: Sea Dogs.

849
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: Like Portland that team.

850
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 3: I think you should drive three hours to go see

851
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: the Portland Sea Dogs play baseball.

852
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: While you can double a Red Sox. You're gonna have

853
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: Roman Anthony, who's a top twenty prospect for us. You're

854
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: gonna have Marcela Meyer, who's a top thirty prospect for us.

855
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna have Kyle Tiel, who's a top forty prospect

856
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: for us. You're gonna have even fun names like Blaze Jordan. Like,

857
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: it's just a fun team. And then there's some good

858
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: pitchers as well. Who am I missing? Who else on

859
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: that team? Nick York? York? Nicky York.

860
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: Who's welcoming Gonzalez is there?

861
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: Yep? I mean that's a fun team. It's a really

862
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: that's a must watch ball club. And I mean I

863
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't say anybody on that team has gotten off to

864
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 4: a super hot start yet. No, regardless, we're a Philly

865
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: fun team to watch.

866
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: We're two minutes into the end of the season at

867
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: the double A high and low A levels.

868
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: I do.

869
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to run you through some of the starting

870
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: pitching performances that jumped out to me on the opening weekend.

871
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: And then if you've got some hitters that you want

872
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: to highlight, feel free to do. So. There was this

873
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: kid in Oklahoma City that with four and two thirds

874
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: two hits, no runs, struck out six and walked nobody.

875
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: His heater was up to I think ninety six ninety seven.

876
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: Older guy non. I didn't see him on any like

877
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: top fifteen list or top thirty list. Bueler b u

878
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: e h l e R. That was so fucking awesome

879
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: to see him.

880
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 4: Chef. Yeah, that guy's pretty good. This is a little

881
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: reminder of just how good.

882
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: He is in case you forgot.

883
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, fastball average ninety four, which is great to

884
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: see when he's up to sixty five pitches now. And

885
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: you know, he kind of talked about it, and if

886
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: you watch that that other start, the first start, he

887
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: was really good out of the gate, and then he

888
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: started to see the command you know, just wane a

889
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: little bit because well he hasn't thrown in a game setting.

890
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: Just seeing him so dialed in and just didn't really

891
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 4: falter at all, like he just you didn't see him fatigue.

892
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: Really he looked. He looked like you could see him

893
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 4: feeling himself like he felt and I'm excited to talk

894
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: to him about it, like I'm excited to hear his

895
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: takeaways because like my just what I saw was, oh,

896
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: he feels like Walker Bueller again. And that was cool

897
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 4: to see Walker Bueller feel like Walker Bueller again. That

898
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: was that was fun. And I mean, I think Dodgers

899
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 4: fans can start to feel it a little bit. He's

900
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 4: going to be there relatively soon, and I think can

901
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: can help them, you know, sooner rather than later.

902
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: Get the fever going a little bit. I want to

903
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: go to Greensboro and Hunter Barcoe, who we were impressed

904
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: by in Spring Breakout. Hunter Barco went three no hit

905
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: innings with six punchouts. Only two guys to reach against

906
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: him were two walks. This was a guy that, on

907
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: a much smaller scale than Walker Bueler is an in

908
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: case you forgot guy because he was good at Florida

909
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: before he went down, but he blew out. He's worked

910
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: his way back, and I we talked about it on

911
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: the call up, Like I turned to you during the

912
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: Spring breakoun and was like, Barco looks healthy and he

913
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: looked really healthy in hya.

914
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 4: That the healthy is the big thing coming off of

915
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: TJ for him at the so he would have been

916
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: a first round pick. I think at U out of

917
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 4: UF ends up going undergoing TJ in that season when

918
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 4: he was dominating and still goes in the second round.

919
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: And then we see him come back at the end

920
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: of last year and the velo just wasn't there. It

921
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 4: was ninety ninety one and he's more of a deception

922
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: and shape and funky release guy. But when he's ninety

923
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: two ninety three now, because it's a sink like we

924
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: talked about with some other guys, makes a huge difference,

925
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: especially with the slider work in the other way. So

926
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 4: he's back to ninety two ninety three and you're just

927
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: seeing a total totally different situation here where he's able

928
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: to get a bye. Guys, the slider looks sharper, he

929
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 4: mixes in the change like there's a lot to like.

930
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: And Barco is one of the guys that would just

931
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 4: put out a written article of you know, breakout pitching prospects.

932
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 4: I added more than what we did on the call up,

933
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 4: and Barco is one of the guys that actually ended

934
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: up adding Just thinking back to that live look we

935
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: had at spring breakout. He was he looks like, you know,

936
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: under Barco.

937
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 3: Again understandably so guy in double A with the White

938
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: Sox Drew Thorpe for Birmingham five innings, two hits, no runs,

939
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: punched out eight, and walked one. Thorpe got blasted in

940
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: his final spring training outing. I think that left a

941
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: sour taste.

942
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: And some guy was traded like twice.

943
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: I know, like hey, pack your bags, bub and he

944
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: threw for the White Sox after he was moved, and like, hey,

945
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: he didn't, you know, really need to go anywhere. It

946
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: was Arizona at Arizona, but like that takes a toll mentally,

947
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: and you know he got killed by the Angels and

948
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: many resurfaces in Birmingham and he looks nails.

949
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the best change up in the

950
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 4: minor leagues. And we saw it, you know, just upcose

951
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: and personal. It's great that he can work with Edgar

952
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 4: Caro too. I'll mention is off to a great start offensively.

953
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: And then another White Sox prospect. You got to be

954
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 4: feeling pretty good looking at this White Sox pitching depth

955
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: in the system. Noah Schultz yesterday, their first round pick,

956
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: who is healthy now as well, had a little bit

957
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 4: of an elbow flare up last year, and that he's

958
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: gonna be on a pitch count this year, but to

959
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: start in high A this year. He's six'. Eight by the,

960
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: WAY i think this extremely young high school. Guy four,

961
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 4: innings two, hits no, runs no. Walks ten, k's, yeah

962
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: ten k's in the first start of the year For Noah.

963
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: SCHULTZ i, mean The White sox have something brewing here

964
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 4: in the farm. System, finally he saw fourteen hitters and

965
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: he punched out ten of. Them that's a really hard

966
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 4: thing for me to wrap my. Brain and he didn't walk.

967
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: Anybody that's the big.

968
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: Thing when you see these gaudy strikeout numbers and you

969
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: know they're accompanied by a four or five walk, outing

970
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: then you can kind of add the disclaimer because it's

971
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: clear that he's not attacking anybody within the. Zone Noah

972
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: schultz was attacking hiators within the strike, zone and he

973
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: was just objectively better than everybody that he faced and.

974
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: Touched ninety. Nine, yeah, right, okay it's.

975
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: Good Another i've got two rockies THAT i want to get. To,

976
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: actually holy, shit Three rockies two of, them and Spoke

977
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: kane one of them In. Hartford let's start with the

978
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: one with the least sex, Appeal Carson, palmquist The hartford Yard,

979
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: goats weirdo slot lefty like side armor pretty Much Carson.

980
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: Palmquist five, innings two, hits no, runs one, walk eight

981
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: k's in double, ay like they're gonna get fun real.

982
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: QUICK i love their. Strategy. Now it's just fun to

983
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: see that The rockies have some sort of semblance of

984
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: a plan all of a, sudden with like you have

985
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 4: to have a plan when you play on The, moon

986
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta follow some sort of.

987
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: Peru Ryan feltner just punched out what tenh so like

988
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: they clearly had a plan with him developing.

989
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: That. Yeah, No so the their plan has been funky

990
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: as Hell lefties and we're gonna talk about two. Here

991
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: But ponquist has one of the more unique releases you're gonna.

992
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: Find it's fully sidearm but gets good. Extension it's just

993
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: weird and guys cannot hit. It he's gonna be a

994
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: big league starter for, them AND i think be a

995
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: pretty good one because it doesn't matter about the altitudes

996
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: effect on your movement as much when you can't even

997
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: see where the ball's coming, from and it's a totally,

998
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: outlier bizarre. Release.

999
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah the other funky lefty Is Sean, sullivan who is

1000
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: In HIGH a With. Spokane six, innings five, hits one unearned,

1001
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: run didn't walk, any punched out thirteen in six. Innings

1002
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: Sean sullivan going six innings in his season debut was

1003
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: a feat in its, own like you really don't see

1004
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: minor leaguers go. Six but if you're on cruise control

1005
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 3: and you're not hitting that threshold that a lot of

1006
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: these HIGH A douaa managers are worried about you. Hitting

1007
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: they'll let you go if you look like you're in god.

1008
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: Mode And Sean sullivan On Saturday night was in god.

1009
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 4: Mode his fastball was in up in the upper eighties

1010
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: and he just using it and nobody can touch. It

1011
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: another bizarro, release crazy, extension really. Funky it's it's you

1012
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: pretty much don't see any fastballs like from that. Release

1013
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: it's like even weirder Than Kyle, harrison who gets a

1014
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 4: lot of swinging misses with this. Fastball because of, That

1015
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 4: so if THE vo ticks up, more you know that

1016
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: that would be. Great this is just cool to see,

1017
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: him even when he was kind of slipping into eighty

1018
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: six eighty, seven still being able to get tons of

1019
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: WITH i think what stands out with him is that

1020
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: he can really just throw that fastball the majority of

1021
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: the time and get guys. Out but the curve ball was,

1022
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: there the change up was there a little. Bit it's

1023
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: a legit three pitch mix that's starting to come together for.

1024
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: Him he was one of my favorite breakout pitching, prospects

1025
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: and fair to say he's off to a good start

1026
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 4: for a.

1027
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: Breakout this is probably the closest thing to The Joe

1028
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 3: Ryan invisible that we've got going.

1029
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: Right it's got to be close and like a weird

1030
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: left handed like far, out But i've never seen a

1031
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: guy release from that low and get that much. Extension

1032
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 4: it's just if you think about you're trying to throw

1033
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: it from a low, release you're gonna tend to be

1034
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: a little bit closer to your body to get that

1035
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: kind of extension while still staying. Low it's just so

1036
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 4: weird for.

1037
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: Hitters, yeah the last guy THAT i want to mention,

1038
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: here and there were other guys that had great, outings

1039
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: but the last guy THAT i want to mention is

1040
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 3: the Third rocky we're going to talk, about and It's Chase.

1041
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: Dolander and this crop of college pitchers taken in last

1042
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: year's draft could be like this stuff of, Legends like

1043
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: we could look back at this and be, like oh my,

1044
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: god what did we get from the college crop this?

1045
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: Year Chase dolander in his pro debut five no hit,

1046
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: Innings he walked, three but he punched out. Eight he

1047
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: was better than every high a hitter that he. Saw

1048
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: and there was a behind home plate isolated shot Of

1049
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 3: dolander and we just saw his delivery and we, agreed

1050
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 3: this looks like The chase Don't land that could have

1051
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: gone one what.

1052
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely and it was funny WHEN i interviewed him for

1053
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: the call. Up you could just tell he talked about

1054
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: the mechanical adjustments he made to get back to to

1055
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: where he is, now and you could just tell how

1056
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: comfortable and confident he. Was he was, like, yeah that,

1057
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: was you, know tough last, year just not being. Me

1058
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: but we figured it. Out and not only, THAT i

1059
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: added a curveball AND i like it, Too LIKE i

1060
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: feel Like i've got even more going for me. Now

1061
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 4: he ran it up to ninety. Eight and this is

1062
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 4: another guy that has really good fastball. Characteristics ran it

1063
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: up to ninety, eight picked up a ton of swinging

1064
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 4: strikes on the. Fastball actually in terms of whiffs, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

1065
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen fastball.

1066
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Whiffs oh my, god he's.

1067
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 4: Back you have one change, up two, sliders two, curveballs

1068
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: just pure. Dominance and he's only going to get. BETTER

1069
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: i think he's only going to get more. COMFORTABLE i, Mean,

1070
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: rockies all this sudden pitching, factory pitching. Factory they're blessed

1071
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: that he fell out of.

1072
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: Them so two of them went to The rockies and The,

1073
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: reds the two places that quote unquote pitchers go to.

1074
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 3: Die Rhett louder AND i will mention his start four,

1075
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: innings two, hits no, runs one, walk five k's and

1076
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: Like skeens was nasty. Again he punched out, six he

1077
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: allowed one hit in three. Innings, again this trio Of,

1078
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: Skeens louder And. Dolander i'm willing to like stamp that

1079
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: we're going to look back on this trio in five

1080
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: years and be, like how the hell were they in

1081
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: the same, crop they went top. Ten this is amazing

1082
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 3: them coupled With, langford coupled With Dylan, Cruz Walker, Jenkins Max,

1083
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 3: clark this could be one of the best top tens

1084
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: that we've seen in recent. Memory AND i don't think

1085
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: that's recency biased THAT i.

1086
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 4: See, NO i don't think it. Is and you, know

1087
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: usually you look back because you're excited about all those

1088
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: guys with close proximity to the, draft because they haven't given.

1089
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: You there hasn't been enough time for them to disappoint.

1090
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: You but with that, said the talent that we're already

1091
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: seeing and multiple guys in this draft that are already

1092
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 4: either making an impact of the big league level or

1093
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 4: already to just about do, THAT i think this could

1094
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 4: be a really special. Class That Ret louder outing was

1095
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 4: just to. Me it was a reminder of just how

1096
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: high the floor. Is he just was picking hitters, apart

1097
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: change up whenever he wanted, it wherever he wanted, it

1098
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 4: slider wherever he wanted, it and then the. Fastball he

1099
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: didn't get a ton of whips with, it but everything

1100
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: was on the ground when hitters were able to get

1101
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: a piece of. It louder is gonna get up quick

1102
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: and he's going to be a high floor. Guy like

1103
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 4: at the very, worst you're getting a four, there AND

1104
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: i think you got a lot more than that.

1105
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: COMMON i, mean, Dude shaanawell went eleventh And shaannawll, like you,

1106
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: know throw all your bias aside and like this guy

1107
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: at the end of the day had a rule change

1108
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 3: taking him out of the running for the longest on

1109
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 3: base streak of all time to open up his major league,

1110
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: career which is, like, soke it's a. Joke he opened

1111
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: his career with a thirty game on bass streak in

1112
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: the major. Leagues he was At Florida atlantic last. Year

1113
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: he wasn't AT lsu like Gome on. There he was In.

1114
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: Boca he was in Arm. Land, like, yes he's down

1115
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 4: the road down it's, crazy absolutely. Crazy it's it's cool

1116
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 4: to see, him you, know just continue to get on

1117
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: base and grind out good. Abs but do you get

1118
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: any other any other?

1119
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: Pictures no other pictures for. Me those were the guys

1120
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: THAT i really wanted to highlight what hitters jumped.

1121
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: Out, uh you, know it's obviously, early but just a

1122
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 4: couple of the guys that outside Of TRIPLE. Ax we've

1123
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: talked about some of The TRIPLE a hitters that have stood.

1124
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 4: Out it just just some of the lower level. Guys of,

1125
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: course you have that whole crop of of modesto just.

1126
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: Mashers But edgar Carrow well will just continue to be

1127
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: floored that The angels traded away for a. Rental Gilido

1128
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 4: carol already has three home. Runs we've talked, about you,

1129
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: know on the call, up about how he's got a plus,

1130
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 4: field a hit in great, approach and he's a switch,

1131
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 4: hitter AND i don't think there's a ton of power projection,

1132
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 4: there but there's more power than he was able to

1133
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: hit four last. Year he Skipped, hia went straight to

1134
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: double and was just not really slugging much BECAUSE i

1135
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 4: think he, was you, know more in fighter flight. Mode

1136
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 4: three home, runs already sitting the ball, hard he's aggressive

1137
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: in his advantage. Counts he looks like a different. Guy

1138
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: and Then Luis baya is a guy that really slowed

1139
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 4: down in the astro system at the end of the

1140
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: year because he got, it you, know pushed to LOW

1141
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: a and it just seemed like he wasn't quite quite

1142
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 4: ready for. That is off to a great start to

1143
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: this year with two home runs. Already he's crushed a

1144
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 4: few baseballs and looks a lot more. Comfortable But i'm

1145
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: so excited from what we're seeing From Cole emerson. Already

1146
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 4: it's pretty crazy to see how how hard he's hitting

1147
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: the ball and what he's. Doing And i'm trying to

1148
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: think if there's like one or two Other Henry, BOLTY

1149
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: i want to call a shot. There second round pick

1150
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 4: by The. A's he looks like a different dude early this.

1151
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: YEAR i Think bolty could be one of those breakout

1152
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: prospects this year as. Well and Then Bryce. Eldridge a

1153
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: lot of buzz about him the spring, training just what

1154
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: he was doing on the, backfields just how he was

1155
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 4: going about his. Business now just focusing on. Hitting he

1156
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 4: hit a home run that was definitely like a call

1157
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 4: league home, run but the fact that he even was

1158
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: able to make it a colleague home, run so pitch

1159
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: up and, in he looked like it was. Lood he

1160
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 4: was fighting it off and it ended up going over

1161
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: the left field. Wall he looks like swatting. It and

1162
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 4: then he hit another double THAT i think was like

1163
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: one oh. Eight off the, bat he hit a home

1164
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: run in spring, training off of on the, backfields off

1165
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 4: a show Tot imanaga like one to. Eleven this guy's

1166
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: scary and he already looks a lot more polished than

1167
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 4: most six seven masters in The giant. System so, uh

1168
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: look out For. Eldridge he could have a monster. Year

1169
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: and then last but not, Least, Farmelo Johnny farmelo just

1170
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 4: swinging it the way he is because he's so toolsy

1171
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: and fun to see him also just looking like a

1172
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: hitter up. There look out for him in The mariner.

1173
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: System it was really nice ending on a positive note like, This,

1174
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 3: OH i have one last. Thing, sorry is it? Negative?

1175
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: Yes now come, on, Man Angel hernandez speaking how far

1176
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 4: he can push this? Thing, Man i've never seen somebody

1177
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 4: so bad at their job and care so little and

1178
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: then like he, laughs he doesn't, care there's no accountability.

1179
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: WHATEVER i just think it's the most insane thing THAT

1180
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: i think the worst umpire we've ever seen in the.

1181
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 4: Sport also sued the league for. Discrimination yeah when HE

1182
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: i think the league should be sued for still employing.

1183
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: Him that's ALL i.

1184
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: Got, OKAY i can get behind. That that's. Fine that was,

1185
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 3: like that was, negative.

1186
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 5: But it was.

1187
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 3: Funny. Negative so we're all. Good get your. Merch listen

1188
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,840
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1189
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: pumping out great article after great. Article on the written.

1190
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,520
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1191
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1192
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1193
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1194
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1195
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,520
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1196
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: we'll talk to you guys.

1197
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: Tomorrow