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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.600 There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry Rowland. So that 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:54.320 stuff you hi rolls and body. That's the second time 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.840 I've been able to do that on this show. Do 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:02.360 you remember the first one? Cryonics colon high Frozen Body 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.720 Exclamation August two thousand eleven. But cryonics is not the 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.000 same thing as cryotherapy. So if you think you guys 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.840 are doubling up already, nope, Well they could even toss 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.080 out medically induced hypothermia. We did that one to all different, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:24.039 totally different, mostly different. Um No, we're talking cryotherapy. It's 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.840 um specifically whole body cryotherapy because cryo therapy has been 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.440 around for a really long time. Have you ever had 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.520 a wart? No? Oh, you never had this happen to you. Well, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.560 actually I did have. Um I forgot, I had the 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.560 planner warts on my feet. You get them burned off? Um? 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.280 I did not? Pleasant. Yeah, and those are a bugger. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:45.920 I used to get warts here there when I was 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.520 a kid. I would go to the doctor and it 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.280 would open a freezer and take out like a this 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:57.120 crazy metal thervice not a jar, boards that they collected. Yeah. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:58.560 I thought they feed them to you and that's how 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.560 you get rid of your words. Yeah, I think it is. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.880 When my mom would take me to the witch, and 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.200 that's how I would get rid of my um No. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.440 They would just take it, take a little swab of 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.960 this stuff and like put the swab onto your wart 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.400 and it would just burn it off, like they burned 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.280 it by freezing it. Yeah, because they're using liquid nitrogen. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.240 It was so cold that it burns it basically just 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.440 burns tissue. You know what I actually have at home 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:32.440 right now? I have a spray can of medical freezing 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.840 spray because I used to go to the doctor to 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.960 get my skin tags removed because my body is just 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.320 lousy with them here in my old age. And then 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.240 you just finally just stole the can so you can 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.280 do it yourself. Didn't steal a can. I bought a can. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:51.640 You can buy the bo yeah on the Amazon bought okay, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.800 And I got a little uh, the little sharp clipper, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.359 not nail clippers, but like um scissors, No, not scissors. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.400 It's sort of been between the nail clipper and a scissor. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.520 It looks like something you get out a hardware store. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.880 Is it like scissors? But then the ends bent at 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:09.040 like a forty five degree angle. No, they look like 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.160 just a pair of dykes, like in a toolbox. But 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.360 there for your toe and fingernail kit. I don't know 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.919 what those are. I'll just show them to you, Okay. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.919 So anyway, I'm gonna start blasting them and cutting them 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:25.560 off myself, or I'm gonna have Emily do it. Yeah, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.359 please take a video of this or Facebook live it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.160 that's the new thing. Yeah, look out for that people's book. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:37.200 It's uh, it's their version of periscope. Yeah, I'm sure 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.160 they don't really like that, but that's exactly what we're 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:48.040 gonna try it out. That's medical uh burning of Moleska. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.520 Bring your little clippers and your medical freezing spray on 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.280 tour and I will film it and we'll just see 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.680 what happened. I don't know if I could get that 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 through security. You just have to throw it over the 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.880 detector and as you go through and catch it on 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.040 the other I think. So that's what I learned in 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.400 Boondocks Saints. Oh man, what a movie man, that guy 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.720 I wanted. I've never seen the documentary about Tony Duffy. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.640 I can't remember. I think it was the bar Owner 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.640 turned um like Hollywood wonder Kin for guy who blew it? 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.800 All right, Troy Duffy, great documentary. That's his name is 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.919 Troy Duffy. I want to see it, alright. So movie 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:35.039 sidetracked already. Oh, carylo therapy. I'm sorry. So when you 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:40.800 take liquid nitrogen UM, that's really how sidetracked. I just 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.000 got like I forgot what we were talking about for 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.080 a second. When you take liquid nitrogen and put it 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.840 on your tissue, that's um local cryotherapy. That's like, that's 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.640 there's no question that that actually works and what it does, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.920 we understand it. The whole body crowd therapy is different. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.679 It's kind of this trendy new thing in the health 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.320 and metas spots where you basically get into what they 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:08.640 call a cold sauna and are exposed to liquid nitrogen 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:13.640 gas and they're supposedly has a whole range of health benefits, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.520 which should immediately set off your skeptical antenna. Yeah, if 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.080 something like Cure's ten ailments, it sounds a lot like 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.000 snake old, especially when the ailments are very vague. Yeah, 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.560 you want to I want is I want something that 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.440 cures the one ailment I have? Right? Not, Hey, it 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 will help with these eight things. Yeah, And I'm not 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.120 faulting anybody who's saying like, well, we don't know that 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.599 this how it works. We just know it works, because 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.719 a lot of Western medicine has no idea how their 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.880 effective treatments work. They just know they do work. So 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.680 there's there's I have no issue with that. The problem 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.039 with cryotherapy is we should just say right off the 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.840 bat is there's really no scientific evidence that this works 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.279 at all. Um it has maybe a little bit of 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.719 um an impact done inflammation. But well, we'll get to 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.320 all that. I'm getting ahead of ourselves. Don't spoil it, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.800 Sorry he did. Should we edit that part out? No, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.120 let's leave it in there. But first, let's go back 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.719 to Japan in the nineteen seventies. Let's take the way 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:23.560 back machine, which I bet Japan in the seventies was 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.480 a pretty fun place to be. Yes to the office 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:32.480 of Dr Toshima. Is it Yama Yamauchi, and he was 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.880 supposedly the first guy, the first doctor to actually use cryotherapy, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.000 and in his case, he used it to help treat 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:43.200 rheumatoid arthritis patients. Still doing it. Oh, I'm sure he 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.919 has a clinic on an island called I believe Kyushu. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.840 I thought it was gonna be Yamauchi Island. It might 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.360 as well be. I'm sure that guy is getting loaded 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:56.320 these days. Money not well maybe both Oka Hi hi 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.400 high end Japanese Scotch and money. Yeah, Japanese scott just 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.400 good stuff. But yes it is. Did you know seriously? 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:11.000 Um uh Crown Royal rye one like world's best whiskey. Recently, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.040 this is the second time he told everybody, just so 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.960 astounded by it I have yet to try it, actually 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.000 I have, you know, but we'll try it on the 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.440 road maybe if we can get our hands on some. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.360 So Yamauchi was trying it with the rumatroid arthritis patients 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.920 and then it's spread through Europe and eventually made its 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.840 way over here where it became has become a very 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.560 trendy thing. And of course celebrities, if they're in on it, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.080 then you know it's the latest in Yeah, maybe not 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.880 greatest treatment because celebrities they're just like us, yeah, except 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.920 that more money to waste on frivolous things. So um, 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.320 I love how you just kind of glossed over it. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.480 But how it got here Apparently in the Soviet block 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.720 they picked up on this treatment that was being used 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:57.320 for rumor troid arthritis in Japan Soviet athletes, and you know, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.480 it probably wasn't by choice back then. They were forced 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.000 into these things, right, you know, like the all Drug 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.400 Olympics guy like get down off the uh the balance 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.040 beam and get in that get in that cold saunta 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.000 cold sauna. Yeah. But the whole idea um that this 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.600 is that this there's some sort of benefit health benefit 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.320 the cold. It doesn't lie with Yamauchi. Um, there's it 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.200 goes back quite a long way. Um, there's this whole 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.520 idea that taking a cold plunge, cold water immersion like 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.079 the Polar Bear clubs. Yeah, and Finland they call it 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.760 of a two in Ti. So they get in the 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:39.199 sauna and then they run out and their bear skin underwear. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.840 Yes is this Finland, and they jump in the cold, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.840 icy waters of the nearby lake. And uh, it's supposed 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.800 to rejuvenate them and make them gasp for air their 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.880 body heels. It's it's supposed to improve mood, well, increase 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.679 your metabolism, do all sorts of crazy stuff. But this 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:04.600 whole idea, um, that that has health benefits. I was 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.199 very surprised. I figured I would find like, oh, the 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.079 Finns were the ones who started this, or may be 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.480 in Iceland or something like that. Um. I couldn't find 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:18.160 anything that talked about the history of ice swimming. UM. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.880 Further back than what this article comes up with, which 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:27.080 is a guy in New York named Professor Sugarman Sugarman. Yeah, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:33.520 surely Sugarman sugar Man. Yeah, what was that in the 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:37.280 eight hundreds when he was the human polar bear and 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.400 he would get into the icy rivers in New York 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.520 and um, he was a help guy and so he said, 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:45.960 this is helping my body out. You should do it. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.160 You know, you think I'm crazy. And by the way, 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:53.440 Graham Cracker's cure masturbation, is that a thing? Oh yeah, really, dude, 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.480 We've got to do like that whole road Dwellville sometimes. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:00.920 That was such an interesting Yeah, believe so from the 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.640 serial Kellogg Kellogg. But there was a doctor Graham who 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.360 came up with Graham Crackers. Um, like there was a 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.960 whole bunch of crazy thinking at that time. That was 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.720 really interesting. I saw that movie way back when. But 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.160 it's been a while, Anthony Hopkins, right, yeah, and I 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.920 think I wasn't Matthew Broderick in it. I feel like 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.840 it's been a while. It wasn't made in the late eighties. Yeah, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.440 Matthew Broderick. It was the one that he was in 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.679 The Freshman. Did you ever see that with Bruno Kirby 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.640 and part of that just the other day? Actually? Yeah? Yeah? 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.280 And I thought how odd that Brando would agree to 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.640 reprise his role from the Godfather in a comedic way, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.480 kind of like de Niro has done to lesser success. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.160 You know what else? Was a good Brando movie? Um 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.840 don Juan DeMarco. Yeah, not bad. Yeah, I liked it, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.280 although I'm speaking from like when you saw it back then. Yeah, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.800 I haven't seen it in a long time. I bet 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.640 it holds up. I bet it's very relevant timely in 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:05.400 top cool. I'll chopo all over the so. Uh, like 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.679 you said, they have done some studies that found it 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.880 doing the ice swims helps reduce chronic pain. But I'll 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.480 just go ahead and say this about all these studies, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.080 We're gonna talk about a lot of them. They're just 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.200 all over the map, and none of them are very 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.240 controlled or very good. Yeah, so it's hard to really 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.760 make a judgment call when you're not doing the good research. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.360 So the jumping in a lake um as part of 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.240 a polar Bear club to make yourself guess have you 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.280 already done that? Not jumping in a lake, but gone 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.640 into like a cold water bath? Well we jump we 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.480 Yeah I did it in high school and a frozen lake. Oh, 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.679 so you have done that. Yeah, there was a church 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.079 camp that had a big, like fifty ft slide into 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.760 the lake and in the summer it's a lovely thing 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.360 and in the winter, you know, the guys were like, well, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.880 we're gonna do it, right, and we did it. And 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.800 did you go Jesus No, I didn't know. Were you like, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.920 oh this is I mean, how long were you in there? Spill? 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.240 I had no idea. Well, I slid in and then 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.560 quickly swammed ashore and got out and got warm and 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.760 ended up on the cover of guide posts shivering in 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.120 your little um polar bear skin bathing suits. Yeah. And 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.880 by the way, people who sent in that cover of 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.480 guide posts that they thought might have been me good 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.360 investigative skills, because the way I described it, it it could 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:20.920 have very well have been me, but it was not me. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:26.760 That one's yet to be found. So um, this idea 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.240 of jumping in the lake, it's it kind of it's somehow, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:35.080 not sure how made its way into sports medicine, where 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.520 it became very big cold water immersion. Yeah. Like you 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.760 see the NFL player sitting in like an ice tub 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:46.760 after a game. He likes his ice paths um. And 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.760 the whole, the whole idea behind it is that you 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.559 just exerted your muscles, right, and when you exert your muscles, um, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:58.640 they become basically infused and swollen with blood. Right, So 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.840 one of the reasons your muscles ache after exercises because 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.920 they're swollen like their their tissue is is just larger 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.160 than normal and it causes this ache. When you immerse 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.360 yourself in water, the thinking goes, the hydrostatic pressure outside 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.000 of your body draws the fluid toward your skin, so 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.000 it draws it out of the muscles and eventually back 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.720 into the blood vessels, so it creates or it lessens 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.079 that aching thing. The problem is, if you're using cold 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.160 water immersion for that kind of thing, it doesn't really 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:36.480 make any sense because cold water immersion creates vaso constriction, 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.960 which means it makes your blood vessels smaller, which would 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:43.920 make them less apt to accept the blood from the muscles. Well, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.080 there's some people that think it's actually has the reverse 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.200 effect and it's not doing what it says that it's doing. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.520 But like I said, the opposite. Did you see that 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.240 study that I sent you, which one the one that 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.560 had like it was the discussion part had just like 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.000 a couple of different I don't think so. Well. There's 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.400 this one study I came across, and it was basically 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.480 a survey of studies and it it showed like this 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:12.199 study found that these people's um cycling ability after a 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.600 cold water immersion, like after not you jump in an 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.520 ice bath and then jump on a cycle like the 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.080 day after, their cycling ability dropped from like you know 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:27.280 to just and the only the only factor involved was 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.160 cold water immersion. Uh. There's another guy named Joseph Costello. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.440 He's an exercise physiologist from the University of Portsmouth in 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.520 the UK, and he said that there's more evidence coming 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:44.760 out that inflammation, uh is actually part of the recovery process. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.640 So you don't want to stop your inflammation, Uh, you 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.480 want to embrace it. I guess right. Well, one of 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.960 the ways that your muscles adapt is by basically being 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.920 torn and rebuilding themselves, and they do that through inflammation. Yeah, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.440 and that was by the way, I read an article 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.200 from wash Post called the Big Chill Cryotherapy Maybe trendy, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.920 but does it work? It doesn't sound the way. Not 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.120 only does it not work like you were saying, like 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.360 Costello's finding, there seems to be more and more evidence 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.960 that it actually has a detrimental effect where if you're 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.160 an elite athlete, you do not want to do cold 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.600 water immersion. Yeah, all right, Well let's take a break 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.840 and we'll talk a little bit about kind of the 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:46.840 cost and what's going on today with this stuff. All right, 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.880 josh U, a little bit of the nuts and bolts 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.680 on cryotherapy these days. You will go. If you're in 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.640 a big city, you probably already have a cryo spa. Um, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:02.320 it's probably just some some spa bought one of these machines. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.320 I don't mean it's dedicated to cry out spotting. Well 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:11.280 maybe there's some in the biggest of cities cities, but 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.600 you know, look it up on your internet machine and 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.120 if you want to go check it out, you can. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.880 It will cost you about forty or fifty bucks. Or 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.560 you can get like a monthly membership. I saw one 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.520 and um Minnesota, which I don't know why, they just 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.200 don't go outside in the winter and accomplished the same thing. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.240 But it was four and fifty dollars a month. But 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.880 you're unlimited cryotherapy and you don't want to use it 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.440 more than once a day. So I did the math, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.800 and that's still the savings of about six hundred bucks 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.880 if you went every day. Yeah, I wonder how much 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.680 it costs to buy one of those. I'm sure it 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.880 would pay for itself in ten years. And I wonder 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.960 if you can eventually just put a tabletop on it 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.239 and double it as a dining table once you inevitably 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:56.720 quit using it to put a lamp on it. Uh 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.400 so four to your fifty bucks a pop, um, and 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.920 you will be in the it's really really cold, and um, 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.080 it's I think that's an understatement. Yeah, and it's gas. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.400 We need to be really clear. You're not in cold water. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.680 It's dry gas, and that's what saves you from things 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.879 like frost bite or freezing to death or getting hypothermia, 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.200 because that's right, it's gas. That liquid nitrogen, when it's 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.040 exposed to the warmer temperatures of the air and it's 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.879 released into that thing, immediately gasifies. Yeah. And we're talking 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.760 negative two hundred and fifty six degrees fahrenheit or hundred 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.400 and sixty degrees celsius right negative. That is colder than 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.960 anything on planet Earth. Right. So if you could find 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:42.800 liquid that remained liquid at those low temperatures, right, um, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.800 you would basically immediately die when you immerse yourself in it. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.119 And the reason why gas you can expose yourself to 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.520 temperatures of gas like that rather than liquid, because liquid 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.359 is UM has a higher heat capacity, which means it 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.400 absorbs heat more readily, and it's a great conductor of heat, 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.800 so it wits that heat away from your body. UM 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:09.000 I think twenty five times faster than air does. So 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.240 you can withstand this this cold cold temperatures again negative 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.439 two d and fifty six degrees fahrenheit. Right, that's the 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.959 coldest temperature on Earth right there in that little cryo sauna. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.600 There's nowhere else on Earth that's even remotely close to that. UM. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.040 But you can withstand it for a certain amount of time, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.119 Like I think three minutes is the maximum time that 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.840 they suggest. They say two to three minutes is, which 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.720 I guess that's a plus. You pop in there, you're 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.800 gone five minutes later. Oh yeah, If you want one 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.439 of these things, it's like printing your own money aside 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.920 from the lawsuit payoff UM. And you will, like I said, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.240 two to three minutes at the most, and it penetrates 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.040 no more than a half millimeter below the surface of 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.560 the skin UM in the case of the gas. And 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.520 here are some of the things they say will help 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:01.240 with UM anytime. The first one is destroys toxins, and 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.600 my radar is up. Yeah, because that's such a broad claim. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.439 You know, uh, increases metabolism, that's another one that so 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.520 you'll actually lose weight, right, boost your immune system, and 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.040 slow aging. Like all of these sounds like something you'd 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.240 see on the subway at in New York. What are 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.199 the four broadest health concerns you have? Human? Yeah, well, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.280 that happens to take care of all of them. I'm 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.639 surprised it doesn't say like, helps you get sleep or 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.560 helps you if you're getting too much sleep. Right, there's 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.600 probably a spot advertises that. Probably so. And the reason 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:41.520 that they can do this is because, chuck, it's unregulated. Yeah, 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:46.639 there are some states that now offer suggestions on I 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:51.000 believe one state, just one, Nevada, the one where a 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.200 lady died doing it. Well, let's go ahead and talk 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:59.200 about her, because we're not laughing at her a tragic accident, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.400 because it was awful. We're laughing at the ridiculous lack 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:07.760 of oversight on this extraordinarily dangerous machine. Exactly. This was 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:13.800 in the July, a place called Rejuvenile rejuven Ice. But 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.040 think for real with that, Yeah, I think so maybe 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:21.000 that's an all cryospa. It's a med spa and Henderson, Nevada, 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.080 and um, this lady who worked there when in one 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.520 day and notice that the machine was already on, and 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.960 then on the floor next to the machine, she's oh, 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.080 she was still in the machine with it on. Oh. 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:36.680 I didn't think you could lay down in this thing. 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.240 I thought it just set you up with your next 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.439 sticking out. I think she crumpled. Okay, Yeah, so this 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.840 thing is kind of shaped like a barrel. Um. It's 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.560 not like a bed that you laid down in. No, 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:50.120 it's like you remember that one um or onlike old 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.040 timey cartoons where like a guy's taking a Schwitz like 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.760 they go into that machine and like their head sticks out, 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.600 but inside it's basically like a wet sauna. I don't 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.640 know what you speak, I can picture it. Okay, say 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:05.480 you got into an iron lung and then they stood 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.120 you up. Okay, looks like that. Well, at any rate, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.160 she found her coworker, um Chelsea, I have no idea 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:21.240 how to bring a akey Selbassian found her frozen solid 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:26.399 dead obviously, And what they think might have happened was 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.119 that because this lady knew how to work in machine. 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.240 She used the machine for herself, worked there and was 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.400 an advocate, so she knew the dangers. Um. So they're 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.560 thinking is that maybe she bent down to pick something up, 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.560 got too much nitrogen in her body because you need 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.880 that proper mix of oxygen, and UH just passed out 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.280 and then froze. Because they found that she died from afphixiation, 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.280 not from being frozen, right, and she was. Had she 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.000 taken one, maybe even two breaths, it would have been 0:21:55.320 --> 0:22:00.960 virtually pure nitrogen and at that concentration or that lack 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.360 of oxygen um in the air she was breathing, it 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.439 would just take one or two breaths for her to 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.359 immediately lose consciousness. Once she lost consciousness, she was using 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.720 this thing alone. There was no one to see her, 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.199 which is why she didn't die of being frozen. To us, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.240 she died from asphyxiation. It's that inert gas asphyxiation that 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.960 we talked about in the lethal injection episode. Like it 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.480 just takes one or two breaths and that's it. Yeah, 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.200 And now Um stated in the Nevada has Um some 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:34.679 recommended Uh. They basically said, hey, why don't you just 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:36.720 say you've got to be over eighteen, you gotta be 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.200 taller than five ft. Uh, no history of stroke, seizure 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.040 or high blood pressure. It's almost like to write a 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.240 roller coaster. Yeah, except for the age thing. Not be pregnant, 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.680 and not have a pacemaker. And these are just suggested 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.200 guidelines in Nevada at this point. Uh. And they also 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.000 said it'd also be good if in your office you 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.880 knew CPR and you had defibrillators and um, a working 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.240 phone that could call a nine one one. But again 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.600 all just recommendations at this point. They also Nevada also 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:10.160 recommended that um spas who offer crowd therapy post signs 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:14.760 that say, um, there's no scientific evidence that this does anything, 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:16.920 so let's we'll talk about You to sign a waiver 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:21.040 too that says I could die. You want to talk 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:49.080 about the science after a break, so chuckers. Um, there's 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:51.040 again there's a lot of people who are like, this 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.040 is all whui, which is weird that it doesn't do 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.600 anything beneficial. But the only thing that it's been shown 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.800